"How can we blend the sense that the ecstatic, the effervescent, the beyond, is our human birthright, and we can also be modern liberal people thinking about intersectionality and social justice?" We're stuck, dudes; it's no joke. That's why I needed to keep talking about the transformative potential of psychedelics to facilitate real healing, on both individual and collective levels. And that's why Rabbi Zac Kamenetz was the perfect person to talk to. As founder and CEO of Shefa, an organization dedicated to grounding psychedelic therapy in Jewish spirituality, Zac is working as we speak to advance the breaking down the categories, patterns, and stories that keep us entrapped and entrenched in needlessly self-destructive, yet ever-escalating personal and societal death-spirals. "Our anxiety, our fear, our trauma--that in and through these things that I'm feeling, the whole range of what we can and do feel, I can be on the most profound spiritual path imaginable." We're in a time in which we have to weave together improbable threads of hope together into a coherent, livable future. Zac and his work are focusing on imo one of the most important threads we have at our disposal.