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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Welcome to the Bagel Logic Podcast. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,000 The show where Papa Thom spreads wisdom like a schmere of cream cheese on 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,000 And everything, Bagel Logic Podcast. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Thom Jennings. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Test 1, 2, 2. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Test 3, 3, 3, 4. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Oh, this is coffee. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Alright, welcome everybody to the Big Logic Podcast. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 I know it's been a while, but you know what? 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,000 I got it sometimes calling the utility in fielder because it's just 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 having a hard time getting guests, but you know what? 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,000 It's about the quality. 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Yeah. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,000 And the quality. 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Yeah, I think so. 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,000 In this case. 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000 This is number 3. 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,000 It's like a special side host guest/something. 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,000 You're my Alec Baldwin. 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 We don't have to put labels on it. 21 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Come on. 22 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,000 It's fun. 23 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 We enjoy it. 24 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,000 So what is this? 25 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,000 We do. 26 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 We do. 27 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,000 And we've put together an incredible show, a script. 28 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,000 No, we haven't done any of that. 29 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 No, we didn't do any study. 30 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Sorry folks. 31 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Yeah, this is going to be completely off the, I don't know what you call, off the cuff. 32 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Kind of like every other episode. 33 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Yeah. 34 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000 We just like that. 35 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Um, I don't know, you know, I was thinking. 36 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,000 I should teach you how to use the mute buttons. 37 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 We don't have to hear all this stuff. 38 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,000 That's good stuff. 39 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,000 I don't have that stuff in there. 40 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 I know it's like I got these out. 41 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:34,000 I got like this cough too, so it's like I could really give it a nice, you know. 42 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,000 There you go. 43 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 A little bit of, I call those lung burgers. 44 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 You know, it's just a gross thing to think about. 45 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Um, but hey, you know Josh Cogovan. 46 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Thanks for coming with me today and being on the Bagel Logic podcast. 47 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,000 It's always a pleasure. 48 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Thanks for being a listener and an active participant. 49 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 It's always a pleasure. 50 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,000 And it's the last time I told you when I saw you last, I actually met your son, which was pretty cool. 51 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Yeah, I wasn't there, but it was cool that you got to meet him. 52 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Yeah, we've been working out getting him out of the house a little more. 53 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,000 So when I first glance at my thought, he was you. 54 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Yeah, he's he's bought my size and he's mine. 55 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,000 I can't can't deny it. 56 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000 No. 57 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,000 He's definitely mine. 58 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Yeah, he definitely looks a lot like you. 59 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,000 So, but, you know, let's catch the listeners up, I guess, on life. 60 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,000 And I think, well, there's definitely episode about our former participant who came in here, Steve 61 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Philoprand, he's actually a picture of him on the wall. 62 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,000 I was just looking at that. 63 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,000 So he's kind of with us in spirit today, Steve. 64 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Wouldn't surprise me. 65 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Yeah, maybe so maybe he'll inspire us on some topics, but you started a new job, didn't you? 66 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,000 I did. 67 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Well, it's kind of a new job. 68 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,000 I'm still just putting in wheelchair ramps, but I'm traveling now. 69 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 So there's a whole lot of Southern experience going on. 70 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,000 I'm doing some work in Florida and Midwest Arkansas, Central Arkansas area. 71 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,000 So that's been a little bit of a culture shock for me. 72 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Believe it or not, things move a lot slower down there. 73 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:06,000 What's interesting is I spoke to Tim O and I'm going to refer to her as your wife because that's, you know, 74 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:12,000 and you have to listen to the previous episodes to, we're not going to get into the whole. 75 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 No, we've gone over it. 76 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:21,000 But what was fascinating, she was talking about the fact that you guys have not really been apart that long. 77 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,000 For the duration of your relationships. 78 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 So I mean, how did that work out for both of you, I guess? 79 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 So far we're still together. 80 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 So that's good, right? 81 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 I think it was fun a little tough. 82 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 So taking a couple trips out the first one was 10 days. 83 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 That was tough. 84 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 10 days after not being apart for more than maybe I've done a few fishing trips with the guys. 85 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,000 I'm like, two days may be in a row over the last 15 or 20 years. 86 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:54,000 So yeah, it's been an interesting thing to the job is fun and good and everything is lucrative. 87 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:02,000 So that whole part of it is all good and everything is great, but being apart from somebody for that long when you're used to being right there with somebody. 88 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,000 I was just made it. 89 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,000 So we've kind of both had to be around a lot to help him. 90 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 He needs that extra help. 91 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Now he's getting better. 92 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 So we kind of are able to divide and conquer. 93 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,000 It's just a little bit of an use to. 94 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:24,000 I can imagine, I mean, I think a lot of times about because I love music as you know, and I think of all these bands that go on the road for months at a time. 95 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:36,000 And I'll interview musicians and there's always a, I mean, there's a good portion of them that always say that the hardest part is the travel and being away from your family for extended periods of time. 96 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Imagine that especially in your case, not having done it. 97 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 It must live in a hotel room and all that stuff. 98 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,000 I feel kind of lucky compared to a musician. 99 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,000 I am a musician. 100 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:55,000 So I've thought about the concept of touring and being on a bus with a bunch of other stinky dudes and sometimes there isn't a place to stay and you don't make a lot of money. 101 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 So this is like touring without all the bullshit. 102 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Because they put the upper of the decent to tour and have a decent hotel. 103 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 They put me up in a decent hotel, you know, they pay me well. 104 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:13,000 So it's like all the, all the good stuff about being a rock star, I guess. 105 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Yeah. 106 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 So it's like, does it ever make you so? 107 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 On a lower level, it's not, not necessarily fun. 108 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Does it make you scratch your head like, did they not have anybody local that can do this? 109 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,000 It did. 110 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,000 It really did. 111 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:33,000 And no dig on any of the places that I've been, but it just seems like everywhere really, it's just hard to find good help. 112 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,000 And maybe harder in some places than others. 113 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 I don't know. 114 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:47,000 What's going on in Arkansas, but something's going on out there and I don't know if it's the, the lack of taxes for the school systems. 115 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:53,000 They're like, they just don't have people that are able to be self starters out there or something. 116 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Nobody. 117 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 They can't find anybody to work out there. 118 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,000 And it's weird. 119 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,000 So you've been, you've been, you've been, you've said you weren't Florida and Arkansas. 120 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Yeah. 121 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Arkansas is the one that's, 122 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,000 It seems like, just, yeah, maybe having a bit of a math issue out there or something. 123 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Yeah, there's some drug drug stuff going on. 124 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,000 I don't know. 125 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,000 It just seems like a weird place. 126 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 I don't want a thorough judgment. 127 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000 I was only there for 10 days. 128 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 It just seems like something's weird out in Arkansas. 129 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 It's one of the states. 130 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Beautiful. 131 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Never been to. 132 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Never been to. 133 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 And it's a friend who actually a friend of mine. 134 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Well, former friend of mine moved there. 135 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Man, I want to say this had to be like 25 years ago. 136 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,000 And I remember the only thing that he said was that, 137 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Well, black people down here know their place. 138 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Oh, wow. 139 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Well, maybe that's why it's definitely down there. 140 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 If you want to, if you want to talk about, 141 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,000 you know, everybody always says, you know, all up racism's gone and all that stuff. 142 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Yeah, it's not. 143 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 I mean, yeah, this was 25 years ago, but it was, it was like, 144 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,000 that's your only observation for Arkansas like that. 145 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 And like, what is their place? 146 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Yeah, I don't know. 147 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,000 I can vouch that I did do a lot of work with a lot of color. 148 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Folks down there and they're all very friendly and very nice and good people. 149 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,000 So far, Zac goes. 150 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Yeah, yeah, it's a, that's their place. 151 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Then yeah, they know how to be good people. 152 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,000 I guess. 153 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,000 I thought without that's what he was getting at. 154 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 No, I don't know what he was getting at. 155 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Well, but I, you know, it's, I mean, the podcast already going to wear 156 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,000 place, but I mean, the reality is, you want to do it. 157 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Yeah, but this is the thing. 158 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 It's like, I mean, I, again, I still deal with, 159 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:34,000 I still deal with people that talk about just bizarre stereotypes that still exist. 160 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000 And, you know, this is a double edged sword because now we're really going to go into completely 161 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 bizarre territory. 162 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Yeah. 163 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 So I, I have, thanks a lot, Arkansas. 164 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Yeah, thanks, Arkansas. 165 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,000 So as, as those who listen, no, you know, I was small business, a big business, 166 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 hence the name, bigologic. 167 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 And the other day, I was looking over a grant. 168 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000 You know, there was a, through, I think it was square, which is the go, 169 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 just don't, don't sue me squares. 170 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,000 I'm not, I'm not saying anything terrible, but you know, that's the recording unit saying stop 171 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Tom, don't go here. 172 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:08,000 But, um, so I'm looking over the, the criteria for this, this grant for small business. 173 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:13,000 And they list all of the things that you have to be in order to get the money for the grant. 174 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,000 And like the one thing that was missing was like old white dude. 175 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,000 You know, yeah, we don't, you don't make the list, man. 176 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Oh, I didn't know what it was. 177 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 So white people don't make the list. 178 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:27,000 And that's gender, there's women on, there's, you know, my norm on, oh, I kind of stuff. 179 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 We don't complain enough. 180 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 I think that's the problem. 181 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 I just got to complain more. 182 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 I don't know. 183 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 It's, it's, so that, that sort of reverse discrimination in a way, 184 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 as it can be very frustrating. 185 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 And I know, you know, a lot of people use the term white privilege and everything. 186 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 And I, I mean, we could have a whole episode on that. 187 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,000 And you couldn't win. 188 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,000 You can't win that argument because there are some people that have this real hard 189 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 definition of it. 190 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,000 But, you know, the reality is is that we have people that hold on to these, 191 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 these crazy racial stereotypes. 192 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,000 So I work with, I work with a bunch of people that really dislike Jewish people. 193 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 And it's been so crazy to me. 194 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Oh, my God. 195 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,000 I got to say it's been, I don't, you know, 196 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:14,000 I can honestly say I don't remember the last time in my life where I was around more than two or three people that just were 197 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 blatantly antisemitic. 198 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,000 No, I don't think I've ever been around anybody. 199 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 No, it's utterly bizarre. 200 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:28,000 And one of the funniest conversations I had in a sick, funny way was a coworker said to me, 201 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:37,000 you, they were talking about how plant parenthood was developed to kill off African American babies. 202 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,000 And it was, it was done by the Jews to kill off African American babies. 203 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Now folks, please don't edit it out. 204 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,000 The fact where I said, I didn't say this, but this is what this is what was told. 205 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 This is what was told to me, right? 206 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Because I'm a history teacher and they, oh, you know, 207 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 you know, you know about this, right? 208 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Like this is this is factual, right? 209 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,000 I don't never heard of that. 210 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:05,000 So he goes, he goes, well, who would benefit plant parenthood? 211 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 I'm like Margaret Sanger. 212 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 And he's like, well, she was Jewish, right? 213 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 I like, no, she was Irish, dude. 214 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Like, I mean, you know, I mean, she was Irish. 215 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,000 So then, so I literally leave the conversation in my own weird mind going 216 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,000 where the Irish people are trying to kill off all these. 217 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:28,000 I was, I was, I was people been the ones trying to kill off all these babies 218 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,000 and the poor Jewish people in the beginning, the, the bad rap for us. 219 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,000 It's great grandfather has been telling that story to all the kids and the family. 220 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,000 And they just believe it because it's coming from grandpa. 221 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Dude, what do you tell you? 222 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:49,000 It's one of the scariest moments in my life is when somebody I know and respect and really like. 223 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,000 And you've known for a while and then they just pull this kind of stuff out of their ass. 224 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:00,000 And they presented to you in this, in this rational discourse and you're just like, 225 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 how do I unpack this? 226 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,000 You never, ever, ever look at them the same again. 227 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 But, you know, as I said, I guess coming full circle. 228 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,000 I, I don't know. 229 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 I, I think even like going back to that thing with the grant thing. 230 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 You know, I get the purpose of it and everything. 231 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Yes, I know that racism still exists and, and I mean, oh my God, I still, I teach a lot of kids 232 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:28,000 that whose parents clearly are really anti-LBGTQ because I had a kid that goes to all the Sabres games. 233 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Living by Cariously through their children. 234 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Yeah. 235 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 Pretty much. 236 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,000 So this kid says, I don't know. 237 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 I don't know. 238 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,000 See, do you go into the Sabres game site, which by the way, if you're outside of Buffalo, it's the Buffalo Sabres 239 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 or hockey team in Sabres. 240 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,000 And he says, uh, he says, I ain't going to go in. 241 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 I ain't going to go in tonight. 242 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 I go, I go, I go, it's because it's pride night. 243 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 And I'm like, what? 244 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Like, you literally aren't going to go to a hockey game because it's pride night. 245 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Yeah, man. 246 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,000 He's the time to be living. 247 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,000 I'm telling you. 248 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 13 years or 13 years old. 249 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 What are racist crap? 250 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000 No. 251 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Yeah. 252 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,000 And then they pass it down from generation to generation to generation until you can hopefully find one that's 253 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,000 willing to be a little more open minded and listen to the facts. 254 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Well, you know, but it's not what we have to be able to talk about it in a very open and 255 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Frank way. 256 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Like, I would, I would rather have a young person talk to me about it so that at least I can. 257 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,000 We have to run the learned. 258 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 They just got to be willing to accept that information. 259 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,000 That's what seems to be the hard part with a lot of people that are already hard 260 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 headed to even think. 261 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Not have sought out that information to this point and to even need somebody to give that to them. 262 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Just kind of can tell you how somebody was raised and it's weird to happen all far from the tree in a lot of ways. 263 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Well, you've had a scary. 264 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Yeah. 265 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:52,000 That's all you ever spit out and then you have kids and you're spitting it out to your kids and re-gergetating it to your kids kids and next thing. 266 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,000 You know, you're in Arkansas. 267 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 We're in 2023 out in Arkansas. 268 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,000 And you can't find anybody to work because they're all crazy. 269 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Yeah. 270 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Well, it seems like crazy or lazy or something. 271 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 I don't want to be judgmental. 272 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 That's my new thing that's tried to not really. 273 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000 I don't know what the story is after being there for 10 days. 274 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Everybody's polite enough with me, but it just seemed like fast food took like an hour at the drive through. 275 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Maybe I'm exaggerating by like 15 or so minutes, but I don't think it should take a half hour, 45 minutes to get fast food. 276 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000 And that was a regular thing. 277 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,000 It happened again in Florida. 278 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,000 There was places where I pulled up in the place. 279 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 It was supposed to be open and it just wasn't open. 280 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Yeah. 281 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 And I thought it was Arkansas. 282 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 And then I thought it was Florida. 283 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,000 And then I came home and went to a cracker barrel right at the corner from the airport. 284 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,000 And I got seated and it took 35 minutes for the guy to come up and ask us what we want to drink. 285 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:46,000 So I'm just starting to think it might not even just be an Arkansas problem or a Florida problem. 286 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 It's a world problem. 287 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 People don't make enough money. So there's just not enough people to do the job. 288 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,000 We went to Tully. 289 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 He's took my son to Tully's. 290 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 He loves the chicken fingers. 291 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,000 He has a hard time waiting for red lights in the past. 292 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,000 He's getting better. 293 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,000 So we're trying to test this. 294 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 So we go into Tully's. 295 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 It's like two o'clock, two thirty. 296 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 It shouldn't be a busy hour. 297 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,000 You should be able to get a seat. 298 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 The lady tells us 25 minutes. 299 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,000 The waiting room is full of people are out here. 300 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 They've only been open for two hours. 301 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Yeah. 302 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 And I'm looking around and there's tables everywhere. 303 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 There's places to sit. 304 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 There's just nobody to serve anybody is what it comes down to. 305 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Kind of waiting almost 40 minutes for the table. 306 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,000 My son did a wonderful job. 307 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 I think me and Mo got more angry than he did. 308 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 But they went to the 40 minutes. 309 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 We were looking at him for advice. 310 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 And anyway, we've made it through. 311 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,000 And then it took another 40 minutes for the whole service to happen. 312 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,000 It was pretty much one waitress running a whole giant section. 313 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,000 And one lazy bartender that couldn't get the drinks out of the kitchen. 314 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Quick enough. 315 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 And one manager that was about the polar hair out. 316 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,000 You know, and I try to you try to refrain from being mean. 317 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Until you can do it because you got to remember it's not necessary. 318 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,000 These people's faults and everything's happening like this. 319 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 You can't get people in there to work. 320 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,000 You can't. 321 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Everybody's got missed these people when they're gone. 322 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:03,000 No. 323 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,000 You know, when everybody wants a go off for Friday night, fish fry. 324 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 And there's nobody to serve it. 325 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Or no. 326 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,000 You want to go out and have a beer or something. 327 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,000 And you can't go to a bar because they don't exist anymore because we didn't want to pay 328 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,000 these folks a living wage. 329 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Well, I'm not going to take it. 330 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,000 I'm going to take it. 331 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,000 I'm going to take it. 332 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,000 No, you're. 333 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,000 I mean, it's actually great topic because I've had this conversation with people before. 334 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,000 And I know I'm a little older than you are. 335 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 I'm a lot older than you are. 336 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000 I think at least 15 or 16 years older. 337 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:34,000 But when I was, well, I mean, I had a kid when I was he was born when I was 17. 338 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,000 And I was 16 when he was on the way. 339 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 And I dropped out of high school. 340 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 I went to work. 341 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,000 I was in the Russian dishes and I was in the restaurant industry for about 11 to 12 years in various 342 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,000 positions. 343 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,000 But here's the difference between then and now. 344 00:15:50,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Back then when I worked in a restaurant, whether it was as a waiter or front of the house back of a house and even low-level management. 345 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,000 I got health insurance. 346 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 I had vacation time. 347 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Things were a little better. 348 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 I mean, there was there was benefits. 349 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 So I think what's going on right now in the restaurant industry is everyone's going, oh, yeah. 350 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:14,000 You know, these people all want $15 an hour, but they don't want to work and blah blah. 351 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000 It's not an easy job. 352 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:23,000 It's not an easy job, but you know, we've created a system and with the best of intentions. 353 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,000 I look at New York State for example is a very progressive state. 354 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 There's a lot of great programs. 355 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000 There's a lot of things that help families and everything. 356 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:36,000 But the thing is that there's never any kind of buffer or weaning off. 357 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,000 So it comes down to as if you're a single parent or whatever. 358 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,000 And you go to work and you work too much. 359 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 You lose too much by working. 360 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 You lose the ability to get food stamps. 361 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,000 You lose the ability to have your your heating bill subsidized. 362 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,000 You lose the ability and you know what in the old days. 363 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Here's another shocker folks in the old days. 364 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,000 If you were a front of the house person, you were a bartender or a waiter or whatever. 365 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:08,000 It was real real easy to get away without having to pay a lot in tax money. 366 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Because you were given what's called an allocated tip amount. 367 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:17,000 It was fairly mean you amount and if you had a bunch of cash, that cash was off the books. 368 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Now we're not talking alcohol numbers here. 369 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Somebody's going to you know tax evasion. 370 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,000 But you know it's kind of stuff that the balance is the bill. 371 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:30,000 So now especially when you want to COVID, this is another thing that people don't really consider. 372 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 You shift to everything being credit sales. 373 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,000 So 100% of your tips tax tax tax tax. 374 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 So you're going to have a higher tax liability. 375 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000 You're going to show more income. 376 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:47,000 And so you get to that point where it's like, why the hell am I going to go through all the headaches to pay taxes. 377 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Pay more for health insurance because maybe you got to go into the marketplace or whatever. 378 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 That is at least. 379 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Yeah, yeah. 380 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,000 The health insurance thing I can say is at least been straightened out a little bit. 381 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 Seems like to me anyway. 382 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Like it's some it's semi affordable. 383 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 At least I don't know. 384 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 I've never worked like a minimum wage job lately. 385 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,000 So I'm not sure how that all works, but I've worked an over minimum wage job. 386 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:19,000 And it seems like when I switch to this new job, I got a whole of New York state about health insurance and told him that I had a new job and stuff. 387 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,000 And they've just told me to not worry about it for a whole other year. 388 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Oh, so I've gotten free insurance for the rest of the year. 389 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 And then I know people who only pay him like $14 a week. 390 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Right. 391 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Shoot back. 392 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,000 And when I was 23 or 24, it was like $250 a week for a family plan. 393 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,000 So things have come. 394 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,000 They've at least shifted in the right direction when it comes to health insurance. 395 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:46,000 But we are like one of the last last places that doesn't have free health insurance for everybody. 396 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Yeah, you know, I don't necessarily need free health insurance. 397 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Right. 398 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Just some of the things that I'm not saying. 399 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:58,000 I teach you in a union that I've worth health insurance now that I had when I was a dishwasher. 400 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 There's things that are backward. 401 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Yeah, it's just. 402 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Just like folks that serve you food. 403 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,000 Maybe you don't think that that's a big deal. 404 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 But once you don't have that, you're going to miss it. 405 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,000 I mean, I mean, I don't know. 406 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,000 I mean, I don't know. 407 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,000 I have a heart. 408 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,000 My heart goes out to anybody in the service industry. 409 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000 I'm going to be grocery stores. 410 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Any of those places that have to deal with some of these folks out here that obviously weren't raised right because they're mean being to people. 411 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,000 They don't understand the service it's being provided. 412 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 At least the tipped employees. 413 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 I mean, I mean, I know I did. 414 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 I mean, I mean, sick money. 415 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Well, that was tipped. 416 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,000 I'd like to hope to think everybody tips well, but I'm pretty sure everybody doesn't. 417 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,000 I've got those little percentages now. 418 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 You can't even think about it. 419 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Well, shoot. 420 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 It's a good little extra maybe sensor out. 421 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Well, we were out there. 422 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,000 I think it was out. 423 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Yeah, Sunday. 424 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Yeah, Sunday with my granddaughter and my son. 425 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,000 And they had like the little, you know, 16, 20, 25. 426 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 They didn't even put 15. 427 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,000 No. 428 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 So you're getting at least 16. 429 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000 Yeah. 430 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Well, that trip to Tully's two burgers with fries. 431 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000 And I think we got some chicken for it. 432 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Fingers with fries and some mozzarella sticks. 433 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Let me guess. 434 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Don't tell me. 435 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Two beers for me, one for the wife. 436 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Couple of. 437 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:13,000 It's a 75. 438 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 90 dollars with the tip. 439 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Yeah. 440 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Where we're at with that. 441 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 It's good to say. 442 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Yeah. 443 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 I got the big beers, of course. 444 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,000 But my, but personally, I've noticed that if you could somehow skip out on drinks, 445 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,000 you could save yourself a heck of a lot of money when you go out to everybody's drinks water. 446 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,000 But do you know what? 447 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Do you know what? 448 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Do you know what the way tips stands for? 449 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Like what it came from? 450 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Mm-hmm. 451 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000 To ensure promptness. 452 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Okay. 453 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 So the tip was supposed to like motivate whoever it was to be. 454 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000 This works well with bartenders. 455 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 If you can show up to like, 456 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000 and go out to see a musical show and there's a bar. 457 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:50,000 If you can show up a little bit early and get a few drinks from the bartender and make sure you tip them real good. 458 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,000 Throw them a couple of five dollars bills so you recognize as your face. 459 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,000 And later on in a night when things get busy. 460 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:01,000 I've had bartenders just hand me beers right over top of three or four people because they knew that I was going to tip them good. 461 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 This is public service and. 462 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Because as somebody who was a bartender for many. 463 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Many moons. 464 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:19,000 I will tell you that the proper method to ensure promptness is big one on the first drink and then just be semi consistent. 465 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,000 But let me tell you if you tip good on the first two maybe three drinks. 466 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,000 You can walk up to a bar and how busy that thing is and the bartender glance over you and be like, yep. 467 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000 What do you need buddy? 468 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,000 What do you need? 469 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,000 That's a tough one when you open up a tab with your. 470 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 You're trying to Carter whatever. 471 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,000 I'm going to know which is damn credit. 472 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,000 That's how they get you. 473 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000 It's just like a kid at Chuck E. Cheese. 474 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000 This is like the reverse coin to token thing. 475 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,000 That's why they used to. 476 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Put your money in the machine to get tokens. 477 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Now you're not spending money anymore. 478 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,000 You're spending Chuck E. Cheese tokens. 479 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Well, I knew that. 480 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Yeah. 481 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000 I converted over. 482 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000 I thought it was just the casino is trying to get the kids to be used to. 483 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000 The see the is doing. 484 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Putting things into a machine of gamp. 485 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 I mean, how is Chuck E. Cheese not gambling? 486 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000 It is. 487 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,000 It's a little kid gambling pretty much. 488 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,000 It's a little kid gambling. 489 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,000 It's a little kid gambling. 490 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000 It's a little kid gambling. 491 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 It's a little kid gambling. 492 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000 It's a little kid gambling. 493 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000 It's a little kid gambling. 494 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000 It's a little kid gambling. 495 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000 I'm going to take it now. 496 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 So at least try to give you something for your money. 497 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Yeah. 498 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000 I'm going to file a lawsuit against Chuck E. Cheese because I'm going to say I got a gambling problem. 499 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Because I'm surprised nobody has done that to this. 500 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 I'm going to say that to do everything. 501 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000 I'm ball pits because I think a few people got like, 502 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,000 I don't know what they call it, but some kind of weird skin stuff. 503 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,000 The kids are getting skin stuff and jump around in the ball. 504 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,000 See how do you clean a plant. 505 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,000 I mean you think about that and the COVID-19. 506 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,000 You can't clean plastic balls. 507 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000 I'm sorry. 508 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 How you did disinfecting the ball pit every day. 509 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Oh, we got a guy over there scrubbing each individual ball. 510 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Oh, yeah. 511 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,000 It's going to be like the worst job ever. 512 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Get yourself a bottle of wind axe and sanitizer and just clean up every single ball. 513 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,000 He's went away with that and turned all the ball pit space into something different. 514 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,000 I don't know what it is. 515 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 I've been checking cheese and quite a while. 516 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,000 We should we should set up a giant ball pit and then we'll do a video. 517 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 And like two weeks later we'll just spray lumen all. 518 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000 So you can see. 519 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Just a week. 520 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,000 There's got to be like some kind of chemical react it. 521 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,000 You know, we can just throw some black light on it and there we go. 522 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Oh my goodness. 523 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Yeah. 524 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,000 You know, like they do with phones because people, they say your phone is really disgusting. 525 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Oh, yeah. 526 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 I can only imagine really if you think about it. 527 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000 It's basically stuck in your hand all day every day. 528 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Yeah. 529 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000 I take mine in the bathroom. 530 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Yeah. 531 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Everybody does it. 532 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,000 I can remember at time when I didn't do this. 533 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Like I would just read the shampoo bottle or magazine like a normal person. 534 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000 And I can remember thinking to myself, man, that's weird. 535 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 People really take their phone in the bathroom. 536 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 So this is when I still had a flip phone. 537 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 So there wasn't really much you could do with your phone in the bathroom. 538 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,000 The invention of the smartphone took away the library in the bathroom. 539 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000 He's throwing stone playboy. 540 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Have a bunch of good reading material in there when you had to go. 541 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Comes to find out. 542 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 And he's supposed to be sitting in there that long. 543 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000 It's not good for your bottle. 544 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Really? 545 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Yeah. 546 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000 And give you hammer. 547 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000 I just sitting on a toilet too long. 548 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Oh, Google it. 549 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Well. 550 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000 All that pushing. 551 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Are good. 552 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Are good friends. 553 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Are good friends. 554 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Brian to grow. 555 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Who will get a mention today. 556 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000 So Brian, Brian, it was the owner of AT&T. 557 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Meadworks place. 558 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000 I used to bartend at four closed down. 559 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,000 He used to drink there a lot. 560 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,000 He used to use the time how water took me to take a dump because I would tell him. 561 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000 And I always told people when I go number two. 562 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,000 And I could get I had it in under two minutes. 563 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000 We're talking leave the bar in. 564 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000 He said take a dump and then you said no. 565 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Well, number two. 566 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Oh, I got it. 567 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,000 I'm censoring myself. 568 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Poopy. 569 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000 You know, we got that. 570 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000 We got the little unit, which is. 571 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,000 We're talking about that recording you to, by the way. 572 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,000 That is moving around rather inconveniently. 573 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 We need extensions on our headphones. 574 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 We do. 575 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 You know, I do have one, but it really. 576 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000 I don't know what it is. 577 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000 Time studios coming together here. 578 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000 It is. 579 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000 New equipment. 580 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000 New microphones. 581 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Some qualities better. 582 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000 I noticed. 583 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000 The last recording. 584 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000 You do this mic. 585 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000 I'm telling you to close. 586 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,000 It's got a little red glow in. 587 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000 I got one of the turn around. 588 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,000 I bought a second one. 589 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 I'm taking out the box yet. 590 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,000 I got a good deal on it. 591 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000 Yeah. 592 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,000 So what we need. 593 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000 It's funny. 594 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000 I think about these things. 595 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,000 I got one of these ones. 596 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000 You got. 597 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,000 You got. 598 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,000 You got you and me. 599 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000 I feel we have a good rapport. 600 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,000 And if anyone's listening this far into the podcast, they obviously feel so as well. 601 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,000 But you know, man, we need a woman like a third. 602 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000 We need to like a like a female foil. 603 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000 And then we could just have. 604 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,000 We could just be the big three. 605 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Yeah. 606 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,000 So we got to think about that. 607 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Yeah. 608 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Maybe any females out there that want to cut a rug with us. 609 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Yeah. 610 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000 No. 611 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000 I'm going to say something regular basis. 612 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000 I don't want to do a regular basis. 613 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Rose between two thorns. 614 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 I could go live from Arkansas. 615 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Oh my god. 616 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000 I'm bringing it to some interviews. 617 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000 I'm going to nice Arkansas videos. 618 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,000 No, you get the girl out of this. 619 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Do some interviews from Arkansas. 620 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,000 I'm scared. 621 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,000 Oh my lord. 622 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,000 I make it sound so bad. 623 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000 But it really wasn't that bad. 624 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,000 I'm more scared of the tornado. 625 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,000 It's this time around than anything. 626 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 It's tornado season. 627 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000 So I've never seen a real live one. 628 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 You know, I don't know what you do. 629 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 I guess get to the lowest ground possible. 630 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Hope they put you up in a decent hotel that holds up. 631 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 I'm not sure what you do in a kind of concrete building. 632 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Right. 633 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Yeah. 634 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,000 I think what you're supposed to do for the foreloast is put your hands together. 635 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Crack a beard and just. 636 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000 I'm just. 637 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,000 I pray that everything's going to be alright. 638 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,000 I've slept through an earthquake when I lived in Nevada. 639 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 I've never seen a tornado. 640 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,000 I mean, I've been. 641 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000 I've probably seen hurricane force winds. 642 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,000 But, you know, we get. 643 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Oh, my god, my brother-in-law and sister are moving up here in. 644 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Oh, we got the buzz back. 645 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Hmm. 646 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,000 Hold on. 647 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Technical difficulties. 648 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Just wiggle it. 649 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,000 There we go. 650 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Yep. 651 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000 The buzz is gone. 652 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,000 Must have been on that court when my head fell and pulled. 653 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,000 So they're moving up here from Savannah, Georgia from Savannah, Georgia up to Upstate New York. 654 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Actually, Batavia, which is a town just south where we are. 655 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Just in case there's any stalkers out there. 656 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 We'll talk about my stalkers in a bit too. 657 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Oh boy. 658 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000 It's a weird stuff going on in my real life. 659 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000 And that's supposed to my imaginary life. 660 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 But, you know, even weird. 661 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Yeah, you know. 662 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Where do you want to hear about that one? 663 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 This was just personas that you would on here. 664 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 It's not real, but. 665 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,000 And he was up here last week and it was snowing and he was just like, 666 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Oh my god, I've seen New York snow for the first time. 667 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 He was so excited. 668 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,000 He just thought it was a greatest thing ever. 669 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000 Now, he always do the first few times. 670 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Oh, I know. 671 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,000 Once you've got to shovel it for a few seasons, your mind starts to change about the prettyness. 672 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,000 Well, it's like they say that you walk around New York City and anybody that's looking up at the skyscrapers, 673 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,000 which my five year old granddaughter called Skyscratchers. 674 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000 They're pretty close. 675 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,000 They just about scratch. 676 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Just like, look at the sky scratchers, Papa. 677 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:07,000 But, yeah, that's no, you know, you're looking up at the skyscrake for New York City. 678 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000 Like, oh my god, you know, crack it all done. 679 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,000 But knee and then, boy, these cultural references, probably, you didn't get that one. 680 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,000 But you didn't even know what else. 681 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,000 That's not a knife. 682 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 I was going, oh, you do know it. 683 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,000 Okay. 684 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,000 It's a knife. 685 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000 I was forget what Josh is here. 686 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,000 It's like, I'm a moment of my mentioned sticks. 687 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000 He's like, the worst name of a band I've ever ever ever ever. 688 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000 I'm so weird. 689 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000 I'm never going to live that down. 690 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000 You never going to live that one down. 691 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Okay. 692 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000 But, I'll take it. 693 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Yeah, so, so, I mean, saying that the snow was cool. 694 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,000 I was just like, oh, yeah. 695 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000 I wish I could go back to the days where when the snow came down, 696 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,000 it'd be like, oh my god, I'm experiencing New York snow. 697 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,000 It's beautiful. 698 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,000 Think it was about eight or nine years old last time. 699 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000 That good feeling about snow. 700 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Yeah, but there were, there were tell me my sister saying, 701 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000 they're not going to miss the rattlesnakes, which I get. 702 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Like, I don't, I would do have some up here. 703 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 But they're not like the diamond back down there. 704 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000 That might be a big reason. 705 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Yeah, I'm a big piece of shit. 706 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,000 But they don't, they won't kill you. 707 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000 And they're really hard to find. 708 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Have you seen one? 709 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,000 No, but I've been on a trip as a kid for school, 710 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 where a guy took us on a guided hunt for him. 711 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 And it's right around this area. 712 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,000 Yeah, ex-relate. 713 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Like the, the virgin swamps or somewhere is where they exist. 714 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Yeah, little pig me. 715 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000 They're pig me rattlesnakes. 716 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Look it up, folks. 717 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000 You can Google that too. 718 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,000 We need the, the woman or whoever the person is, it comes and sits. 719 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 She'd also be Google and stuff. 720 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000 So we can find out if I'm actually talking shit or if I'm right about it. 721 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000 Oh, my god, this is what we call them the fact checker. 722 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Yeah, we need a fact checker. 723 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Like, I'm like, all these new popular podcasts that they have out. 724 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Well, Josh, it turns out that the pig me rattlesnake is actually not from around here. 725 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000 It's actually from 17 miles. 726 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000 No, I would sound, I would sound a lot less smart. 727 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 [laughter] 728 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000 You never know. 729 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,000 Yes, would she be able to get in a word edge wise that is the, I think, I think, 730 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000 but I think we'd be very polite. 731 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Thanks. 732 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000 I do too. 733 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,000 But, uh, crap. 734 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000 What were we talking about? 735 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Picking me rattlesnakes. 736 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Picking me rattlesnakes. 737 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Okay, we're done with that. 738 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000 We're done with that. 739 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000 All right, so what else do you want to talk about? 740 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Oh, man. 741 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000 It's water, the taste very good. 742 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000 It's not bad. 743 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,000 You got to filter on it or something? 744 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,000 No, it's, uh, I've been drinking alkaline water, I think. 745 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000 There's no way that's like, version or, uh, oak filters, I think. 746 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000 No, I don't do tap. 747 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000 You know, which is unreasonable, because there's nothing wrong with tap water. 748 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000 I've just been convinced. 749 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Can be a little chlorini. 750 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000 You know, we mean, me and the wife got to filter. 751 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000 We filtered the tap water. 752 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000 And I feel like it got to chlorini flavor out of it for me. 753 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000 I, uh, I drink alkaline water. 754 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,000 I just want to drink alkaline water. 755 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,000 Oh, my god. 756 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,000 I, uh, I drink alkaline water because I knew this guy was Ron. 757 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000 And he was one of the weirdest dudes I've ever known in my life. 758 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000 And he always talked to really slow. 759 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:47,000 And whenever he said things, it was always kind of weird enough to, to make me never forget it. 760 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,000 And he, he was like, he was talking about nice guys. 761 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,000 His wife had passed away and he was always kind of kind of down and out in the dumps. 762 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000 And, uh, I mean, just, just a sweet dude. 763 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,000 But he just one day, he said to me, uh, he says to me, he's drinking some water. 764 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000 He's like, this is the stuff. 765 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,000 And I'm like, what? 766 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:12,000 He goes, this is the stuff that'll keep you alive forever. 767 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000 I go, what is it? 768 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000 He's like, alkaline water. 769 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,000 And I was like, really? 770 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,000 He's like, yeah. 771 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:25,000 And then he proceeded to tell me how he paid all this money for alkaline water. 772 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,000 And, uh, I told him, why would I have like, 773 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,000 that fuck had it, might work. 774 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000 So I have that's all I've been drinking. 775 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Since the pH is a little different. 776 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,000 That's all it is. 777 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,000 I don't know. 778 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,000 I don't know. 779 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,000 I don't know. 780 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,000 I have no idea. 781 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000 He's, he's where it was. 782 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000 It found a move. 783 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,000 It found a move. 784 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,000 It was a, it was a, it was a weird thing. 785 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000 There's like, bunch of studies out now that say that your body, 786 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000 pH likes to be at a certain level. 787 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000 So if you drink the alkaline water, 788 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,000 it brings it up to a more happy level or something like that. 789 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Go ahead and Google that, Janine. 790 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,000 Yeah, Janine. 791 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Yeah. 792 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Yeah. 793 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Yeah. 794 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Yeah. 795 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,000 He's a man, Janine. 796 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000 That was a girl that I knew. 797 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Janine was a girl that was a really good friend of mine when I was a young man. 798 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Sound like a good secretary named. 799 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000 It is a good secretary named. 800 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,000 But she was like, she was like the girl that I kept in the friend's own forever. 801 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,000 But I definitely should have dated. 802 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,000 I dated her half sister who, no, step sister who I am pregnant. 803 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000 It's weird how you can look back on that. 804 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000 It just be like shit. 805 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Oh, I know. 806 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,000 I feel terrible. 807 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000 We're so new now. 808 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,000 She died young and she was in an abusive relationship for she died and it was like, 809 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000 He's always member thinking of myself, man, I should have dated her. 810 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,000 She was always really good to me and her sister, her step sister. 811 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000 Not so much. 812 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000 But her step sister was utterly gorgeous. 813 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,000 And when you're 15, 16 years old, that's all you care about. 814 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,000 It's good. 815 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000 And all of that. 816 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000 And then the other other stuff, you know how they kiss all that stuff. 817 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:00,000 But as a human being, she was she was definitely a much better human being than her step sister. 818 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,000 And it was sad. 819 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000 But I didn't really know that she would have dated me. 820 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,000 I don't know if we had this conversation on a previous podcast. 821 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:14,000 But for the longest time, the only woman I would ever date or have any kind of sexual relationship with 822 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000 or once it came on to me. 823 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,000 Like, I could never be the initiator. 824 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Okay, that was just because you were scared to be or because that was something that you thought like, 825 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,000 All right, unless they're willing to pursue me, then I'm not going for it. 826 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,000 I, you know, this is this is a very interesting topic, because I don't know. 827 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000 And I've struggled with it for a long time. 828 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Now my wife Tracy, my wife. 829 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Because I'm a worse one. 830 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000 It comes to talking to the ladies. 831 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,000 I'm not, I don't have what the kids call, Riz. 832 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Right. 833 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,000 You know, I don't got the Riz. 834 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Well, I never had a problem getting along with women on a personal level. 835 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:55,000 But in terms of like the first kisses and all that stuff, I never wanted to be the one that initiated. 836 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:01,000 It just, I guess I just had this unrealistic fear of rejection. 837 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,000 And, you know, like with Tracy, my, so it's going to say my current wife, you know, I've been married twice. 838 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:13,000 But I, I mean, we dated, man, I want to say two or three months before our first kiss. 839 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Okay. 840 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,000 I mean, like, dates, I'm talking like, we're going out on dates, we're going to dinner, we're doing all that stuff. 841 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Yeah, have a child or a little older. 842 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,000 I think, like you said, when you're younger, it's all about physicality. 843 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,000 Yeah. 844 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,000 Definitely more about that. 845 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000 And as you get older, you realize that there's way more important things. 846 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Yeah. 847 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,000 So you can actually have the, wherewithal the save that a little bit on the, 848 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000 yeah, I'm not that I can speak on that because I've been the same woman for a really long time. 849 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:44,000 But I can tell you that our relationship is certainly changed and matured over the, over the time and physicality is still definitely a thing. 850 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000 But when we were younger, it was definitely way more. 851 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,000 It's nice to be able to sit down and have a conversation with somebody is a lot more important. 852 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,000 Oh, my God. 853 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000 Especially if you play an unspelling any amount of time with them. 854 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Yeah. 855 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,000 No, you're not kidding. 856 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Because, you know, my first, my first wife. 857 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000 I mean, we didn't, we didn't even make it to the third date for what we were. 858 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000 She just sounds. I mean, I don't know the woman, another one. 859 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,000 And what you've told me in here, they say you're supposed to hear both sides of the story, but she sounds like a horrible human being. 860 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Just saying. 861 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:19,000 From what you've told me, man, inner parents, her parents are just as horrible, which, which, which takes us full circle back to the apple. 862 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Just does not fall very far from the tree sometimes. 863 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,000 You know, if that's what you've learned your whole life, then, then that's basically what you're going to be. 864 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:34,000 There's any young and listening out there and you're looking for a new girlfriend, maybe go over to the parents for dinner and take a look at how the parents act. 865 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Because it's a good, good determination by what you're going to be getting yourself into. 866 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 Oh, I, I think there's yeah. 867 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000 Well, I mean, that the girls in parents had three kids. 868 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000 And then there was, she was, she was an early spatt as her sister. 869 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,000 I mean, they left the picture hanging at the top of the stairs for far too long. 870 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000 It'd be like, that's just rock. 871 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,000 I told you that. 872 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,000 That's rock. 873 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,000 I feel free to add it on. I thought I heard it in the podcast. 874 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,000 That's true. 875 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,000 That's true. They did that. Yes. 876 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000 And she was still married to that guy. 877 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000 And she was having sex with me on the third date. 878 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,000 So, and I wasn't even the first guy after she left her husband at age 19, but just saying. 879 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:18,000 It takes a certain bit of childness, childish nature or whatever you want to call it to just go there to that. 880 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Like you got to know that that's just wrong on every level. 881 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,000 If you're any kind of an adult, like you got to know. 882 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,000 If you don't, then. 883 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,000 Yeah, but you don't just tell me it's, it's like to me. 884 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:40,000 I still think that there's, there's a little guy in our shoulder or gal, you know, whatever you believe in that kind of tells us when we're going down the wrong path. 885 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,000 But, but you know, you can easily get sucked in. 886 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,000 You know, I mean, here it is. 887 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,000 So, so in my case, I had the first kid. 888 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,000 And that was in high school, and you know, that didn't work out more, more due to geography than anything. 889 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,000 I mean, well, no, I mean, she got pregnant by another dude, but. 890 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 You know what I'm saying? 891 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000 So, so then, second time around, I lost lost my kid. 892 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,000 I did custody of him. 893 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:12,000 And then when I, when I got the other one pregnant, it was like my, my soul purpose in the relationship was not losing the kid. 894 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,000 And at some level, this is going to be very hard for me to own this, but I should own it to some degree. 895 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000 This is a great therapy session. 896 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,000 I have to accept responsibility that then in many ways. 897 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:30,000 I was very disingenuous in the relationship as well because there did come a point where it really wasn't about love. 898 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:36,000 It was about, I mean, the thing that I wanted to be, so I wanted to be a father first and husband second. 899 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Whereas with Tracy, my kids were older and I wanted to be a husband, you know. 900 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:47,000 So, I mean, that's not to excuse all the ridiculous things that she did or whatever. 901 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000 But I think you're pretty young too, right? 902 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Well, she was 19. I was 22. 903 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,000 Yeah. 904 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000 And like the brain doesn't even mature until like 25 or something. 905 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,000 I say so. 906 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:02,000 But, and I'll vouch for that because I was a young man trying to have a kid to look back on that. 907 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000 You got to cut yourself a little bit of slack. 908 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:10,000 But Tom Jr. You know, looking at him, he started dating his wife when they were 16 and they've been faithful to each other. 909 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000 It's the only woman he's ever been with. 910 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000 I mean, the whole nine yards and it's on some level. 911 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,000 I'm very jealous that he was able to have that relationship. 912 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,000 Do you ever thought about it like he had a good father figure that said a good example? 913 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,000 Yeah. 914 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,000 You know, he had some to do with it. 915 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000 Like, you want to laugh. 916 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,000 But at the end of the day, like we've been talking about that the whole time, right? 917 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,000 Like it comes back to the parents and a lot of it we've been talking about is like bad. 918 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000 The bad stuff rubs off on the kids and they can't help that. 919 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,000 Well, guess what? 920 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,000 The good stuff rubs off on the kids too. 921 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000 That's how you get a better world to live in. 922 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:47,000 Is he teach these kids the right things when they're young and then they have kids and teach those kids the right things. 923 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000 And then it's seven have a big old long line of shit heads. 924 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000 We've got a big old long line of good people that know how to treat the world. 925 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,000 No, I do. 926 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Well, and I think kids can. 927 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000 Good parents. 928 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:03,000 Well, good parenting and you know, part of good parenting is also admitting mistakes. 929 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:03,000 Sure. 930 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:09,000 Because then you tell your kids or the kids see the consequences of your mistakes. 931 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:17,000 So on some level, I was never able to model until later on what a functional marriage or a functional relationship was. 932 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,000 But he sure is how new would a dysfunctional one was. 933 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000 So that could be helpful too. 934 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:30,000 But again, you know, I mean, we, you know, his mother and I were pretty good at shielding our marital problems from the kids. 935 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,000 Yeah. 936 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,000 But, you know, two. 937 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000 Well, that again, I don't know. 938 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,000 I mean, she was weird. 939 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,000 She was like, she was dating a dude. She would like, bring him around the kids. 940 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,000 There's some stuff in the neighborhood. 941 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000 They just knew it, you know. 942 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000 But hey, that's a, you know, whatever. 943 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,000 If she's listening, I still hate you. 944 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,000 No, I'm Steve wouldn't like that. 945 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,000 I still hate you. 946 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,000 Maybe think of Steve. 947 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000 I know Steve. 948 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000 Steve Steve Steve Steve. 949 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000 You still Steve. 950 00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,000 I was Steve. 951 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000 But if we didn't. 952 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Yeah. 953 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,000 I didn't have all that. 954 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000 Me and you wouldn't be sitting here talking to each other. 955 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000 Well, every situation is different. 956 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,000 And I think Steve was Steve was a unique character. 957 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,000 And he was a, he was a very, he was a very forgiving soul for sure. 958 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,000 But you could still tell there was a, there was a level of disappointment, a bitterness. 959 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:29,000 I think I, I don't want to say that he passed away as a, a sad and lonely guy because I think, 960 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:35,000 you know, as I was able to speak it as a memorial service or celebration of life, whatever they call those things. 961 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Now, we really did fill that void that he had. 962 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,000 But I mean, if it wasn't for eight, ten, me'd works in him having that sense of purpose in the Dina. 963 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:56,000 I mean, he could have easily fallen into some deep depression because there's no question that he absolutely missed being married and all the things to come with it. 964 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000 And then it, to me, to I think he was a little older too, man. 965 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,000 I would have to start over in my 50s. 966 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000 I don't know if I would. 967 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000 It's hard to say sitting here in my 40s. 968 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,000 I mean, I've had a lot of things that I didn't think I would do. 969 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,000 So yeah, no, I'm trying to restart my, I've had to restart my finances, my jobs and everything. 970 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,000 I'm probably four or five times. 971 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,000 What do you do? 972 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,000 You can't just quit. 973 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000 So if that comes to you, well, you can, I guess you're right. 974 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,000 You can. 975 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:31,000 Just go to solve for something or you, or you, or you drown yourself in alcohol drugs and, you know, and I'm not saying that people should do that, but 976 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000 Honestly, I have a lot of empathy for people that do do that. 977 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000 I mean, my father did that. 978 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:44,000 He, you know, he lost his job and his mother, you know, died and, you know, all the, all these things happened all the once in his world collapse. 979 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,000 And he tried to kill himself and he, find himself up for life and you know, and I saw that, 980 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:55,000 but I also saw the collateral damage and going back to, you know, sometimes it's not the things that we teach our kids to do. 981 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:02,000 It's the examples that we show them as the what not to do and the real consequences. 982 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000 It's stick a little bit harder even then the good ones. 983 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,000 It's a little bit easier. 984 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000 You've only got to be let down a few times for it to rest. 985 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,000 You know, usually takes a bunch of, hey kid, great job to really get a kid down. 986 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000 You're standard doing a great job. 987 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,000 Yeah, for sure. 988 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,000 And I mean, you even think about like with drug overdoses and alcoholism and stuff. 989 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:30,000 I feel like if there were always an underlying, if there were people that were around like people before they spiral in or after they spiral into that state and maybe around that to see like, okay, 990 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000 this is the direction you're going. 991 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000 Maybe they would think twice about it. 992 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:39,000 But then again, like you said, there's, there's still that cycle that that some people think that that's just normal. 993 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,000 Like how many people say, oh, you know, it's normal fighting in a, 994 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,000 in a marriage, I mean, all couples fight. 995 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000 I mean, how many do you must hear that on the time? 996 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,000 Sure, I hear it all the time. 997 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,000 And I somewhat agree to it, but it depends on what extent you're fighting. 998 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Sure. 999 00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:05,000 And if anything gets resolved because ultimately it's just fighting if nothing, if you've got two people that aren't willing to compromise, then it's not going to go anywhere. 1000 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,000 It's normal to disagree. 1001 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,000 That's just fighting. 1002 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,000 But is that normal? 1003 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000 Or arguing if nobody's, nobody's willing to see the other person side, 1004 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000 then it's just fighting in our doing. 1005 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000 You got to definitely keep an open mind. 1006 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000 That's what I'm learning in my older age. 1007 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000 You know, we do the matter of business that we're supposed to get to. 1008 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000 How much time are we on? 1009 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,000 Can you see the time are there? 1010 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,000 Yeah, I forgot about this. 1011 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000 This could be, this could be the fun part of 43 minutes. 1012 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,000 Oh, sorry. 1013 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000 So we got to set this up. 1014 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000 Do you want to set it up? 1015 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,000 You want me to set it up? 1016 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,000 What do you mean? 1017 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,000 Oh, what we got to call somebody. 1018 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,000 So Tom has a buddy who, 1019 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,000 We're not going to mention any names, but he has a bunch of work done on the house. 1020 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,000 Seems Jeff. 1021 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,000 Okay, we are going to mention names as names Jeff, but we're not going to mention any last names. 1022 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,000 At any rate. 1023 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000 I honestly don't know how to pronounce his last name. 1024 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000 Yeah, so we wouldn't even try. 1025 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,000 We just might murder it. 1026 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:03,000 And this guy got a bunch of work done on his house from this contractor, but he's kind of just dropped everything and walked away at this point from what I'm understanding. 1027 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,000 Yeah, yeah, no. 1028 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000 So it takes like totally ghosted. 1029 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,000 Okay, gave him like 20 grand up front to get the work done. 1030 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,000 It's no small amount of money. 1031 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,000 And now he's just nowhere to be found. 1032 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,000 20. 1033 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000 Yeah. 1034 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,000 200. 1035 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,000 2200. 1036 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,000 No, 200,000. 1037 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,000 200,000. 1038 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,000 200,000. 1039 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,000 I thought it was 20,000. 1040 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000 No, it's too horrible. 1041 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,000 Shit. 1042 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,000 Who gives up that kind of money to anybody else for us? 1043 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,000 I don't know. 1044 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,000 Man, I wish I would have heard that. 1045 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,000 I thought he said 20 when we were talking to him. 1046 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,000 He says so. 1047 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000 He's just 20. 1048 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,000 So he's just 20. 1049 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000 That must be a pretty big contractor around huh? 1050 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000 Thank you for all. 1051 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000 We can almost much as I did because there were somebody else there. 1052 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,000 I think it was man. 1053 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,000 Yeah. 1054 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,000 And that's all like a tour to grab the tour. 1055 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,000 I'm like 200. 1056 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,000 I'm like 200. 1057 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000 You'll be 200,000. 1058 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,000 I'm moving into your house. 1059 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,000 The first 10 years of my life I spent contract them and doing like exterior stuff, roofing, 1060 00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:01,000 siding, framing, windows, doors, like I must've been in the wrong business because we weren't seeing no money like that. 1061 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000 I was an up front. 1062 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,000 Sometimes he asks for like half the cost up front so you can get the materials and get started. 1063 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000 And then the second half comes when the jobs complete. 1064 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,000 It sounds like poor Jeff got suckered and given away close to a quarter of a million dollars. 1065 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:21,000 And now this guy is probably with that kind of money produced a drug habit. 1066 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,000 And it may be possibly a gambling problem or something. 1067 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,000 And he just disappeared. 1068 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,000 Well, so the story goes to, 1069 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,000 Jeff tells me, and I've jumped in tell me I can't tell you this on the podcast. 1070 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,000 So Jeff, I know you're listening because you're a listener. 1071 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000 But he told me that he wanted to this guy's house. 1072 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000 And he's got a few times. 1073 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,000 Yeah. 1074 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,000 And he's not time to do it. 1075 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,000 He's working for somebody else. 1076 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:47,000 And then he, and then he goes and parks next door. 1077 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,000 And waits for the guy to come home with the guys just doesn't come home. 1078 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000 Like he's completely ghosted. 1079 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000 Now we're going to, we're going to save money man. 1080 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,000 He has done a bunch of work from what I understand. 1081 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000 He just, he's got a bunch of stuff that he needs to butt. 1082 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,000 I think so. 1083 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000 Yeah, it was like a whole thing. 1084 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,000 If I was like a whole bunch of work. 1085 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,000 And there's still more work to go. 1086 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000 I'm coming over because I will continue to make you pay me. 1087 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,000 I mean, just clearly a guy that's been able to put out. 1088 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,000 There is no way this guy's answer in your phone call. 1089 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,000 You know, thanks. 1090 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,000 No way. 1091 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,000 And if he does, he's a friend of one of your friends. 1092 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,000 Well, that's what he said. 1093 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,000 But I couldn't, yeah, I couldn't find. 1094 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,000 I've looked and I couldn't find like, 1095 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,000 I don't even know how I would go about looking to see who. 1096 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,000 All right, how are we going to pull this off? 1097 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,000 We're going to, if he answers, we're going to be like, 1098 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,000 Hey, man, we're doing a podcast for about some contract or stuff. 1099 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,000 We were wondering if you, he's going to immediately not want to talk to us if we tell him that. 1100 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,000 You think so? Well, how are we going to introduce ourselves? Why are we calling? 1101 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,000 We could be calling for an estimate. 1102 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,000 So to redo a kitchen or bathroom or something. 1103 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,000 How about redo the podcast studio? 1104 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,000 Yes. 1105 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,000 I do need some work done in here. 1106 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,000 Okay. 1107 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,000 Okay. Okay. I do need some work done. 1108 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,000 Any plumbing or anything. 1109 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,000 We're not looking for any plumbing. 1110 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000 What's got does at all. He's a jack of all. 1111 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,000 So we use, we're so regular old GC from what Jeff says. 1112 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,000 All right. Let's try it. 1113 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,000 Let's see what happens. 1114 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,000 This student, the no way he's answered. 1115 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,000 This is going to be crazy if he does. 1116 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,000 I'm like, well, he gave me two numbers, too. 1117 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,000 Mobile and a main. 1118 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,000 Which one should I hit? 1119 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,000 The mobile. 1120 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,000 [BEEP] 1121 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,000 What's that? 1122 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,000 Look. 1123 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,000 [BEEP] 1124 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,000 It's okay for me. 1125 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,000 [BEEP] 1126 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:38,000 You're right. My name is answer. 1127 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,000 No way. 1128 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,000 Good afternoon, voice mail. 1129 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,000 He'd call back though. 1130 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,000 Tell him you're looking to get some work done. 1131 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,000 Then we probably won't be here recording anymore. 1132 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,000 [BEEP] 1133 00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:00,000 Okay. So that one he says something remotely. 1134 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,000 So I've seen these signs out in the yards. 1135 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,000 So is this home by chance? 1136 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,000 Remal. 1137 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,000 Which one did I just call? 1138 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,000 So I called the mobile. 1139 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:11,000 Yeah. 1140 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,000 Let's try that. 1141 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000 [BEEP] 1142 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,000 [BEEP] 1143 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:23,000 [BEEP] 1144 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,000 [BEEP] 1145 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000 Please leave your name number. 1146 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000 Man, we tried. 1147 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,000 Can't say we didn't. 1148 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,000 Do we edit the name out? 1149 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,000 [BEEP] 1150 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000 Hey, Mr. Far out there. 1151 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000 I'd like to talk to you. 1152 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,000 Did they do a bunch of-- did he-- 1153 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,000 Is that I'm 104? 1154 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,000 Is that where his house is? 1155 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,000 Did he get worked on her? 1156 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,000 Yeah. 1157 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,000 Okay. So I know, right, I've seen those signs out by the road. 1158 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,000 He just bought this house. 1159 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,000 Not too long ago. 1160 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,000 And he's getting it all redone, right? 1161 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,000 Yeah. 1162 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,000 It's a big house. 1163 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,000 Yeah, 220. 1164 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,000 Jesus. 1165 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,000 Murphy. 1166 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,000 That's a lot of money. 1167 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,000 Honestly, when he told me how much he had spent-- 1168 00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,000 Yeah, I have like a little-- 1169 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,000 I have a little apartment downstairs. 1170 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,000 Yeah. 1171 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,000 And then there's some stuff going on. 1172 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,000 Upstairs, I used to know the guy who lived there. 1173 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,000 We actually played a couple of parties in that backyard. 1174 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,000 Really? 1175 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,000 Yeah. 1176 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:08,000 Yeah. 1177 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,000 Because he's got a little porch off the backyard where you could-- 1178 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,000 Yeah, three stories in the backyard. 1179 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,000 All that kind of stuff. 1180 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,000 Yeah. 1181 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,000 That was pretty fun. 1182 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,000 Redneck parties going on there. 1183 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,000 Dang. 1184 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000 Murphy, should just try to give this guy one more shot. 1185 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,000 [COUGHING] 1186 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,000 Generally, if you're running from somebody who you owe 200, 1187 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,000 and whatever $1,000 to-- 1188 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,000 We don't know if we always get you to owes money. 1189 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,000 I can't tell from-- 1190 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,000 If the work's not done, and he's been paid, then he owes money. 1191 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,000 I'm not going to say it's the whole 220, but it's going to be something. 1192 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,000 You know, we need to do. 1193 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,000 It sounded like it was 220 for a whole job, then are 200. 1194 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,000 Let's get Jeff out of the fool. 1195 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,000 Yeah, there you go. 1196 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,000 Let's talk to the man himself. 1197 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,000 Talk to the man himself. 1198 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,000 [BEEPING] 1199 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,000 He might answer. 1200 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,000 He might answer. 1201 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,000 He might answer. 1202 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,000 He might answer. 1203 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,000 He's wanted to be on the podcast. 1204 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000 He just doesn't realize that he's going to be-- 1205 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000 Hopefully that's a lot of answers. 1206 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,000 Hey, cop. 1207 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,000 Hey, Jeff. 1208 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,000 What's up? 1209 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,000 You're on the podcast with Josh. 1210 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,000 Hey. 1211 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:01,000 What's up, Jeff? 1212 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,000 I'm on the podcast. 1213 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,000 Yeah. 1214 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,000 You're the big-talking about, Jeff. 1215 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,000 Big logic. 1216 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,000 Oh. 1217 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,000 Hey. 1218 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,000 Are you doing? 1219 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,000 I don't know. 1220 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,000 Remember, we told you we were going to call your contractor guy. 1221 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,000 Yeah. 1222 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000 Yeah, we call them. 1223 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,000 Did he-- did he answer? 1224 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,000 No. 1225 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,000 Of course not. 1226 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000 He's-- he won't answer for you. 1227 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,000 He's definitely not going to answer for us. 1228 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,000 No, no. 1229 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,000 Well, I was having my answer for you a little bit more likely to answer. 1230 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,000 Well, we might have had a little bit better chance because it's a weird number. 1231 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,000 For sure. 1232 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,000 Yeah. 1233 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,000 We didn't leave a message, though. 1234 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,000 Oh. 1235 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,000 You did leave a message? 1236 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,000 No, no. 1237 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,000 Because I'm like, "I don't want to-- you found a record it. 1238 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,000 I'm going to talk to him." 1239 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,000 Yeah. 1240 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,000 Oh. 1241 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,000 Oh, I see. 1242 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,000 Okay. 1243 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,000 Well, maybe I'll still talk to him. 1244 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,000 Well, Josh actually knows somebody that knows him. 1245 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000 So maybe you should call in that. 1246 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,000 Oh. 1247 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,000 Well, I don't really know him, though. 1248 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,000 Oh, you don't know, Joe. 1249 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,000 I know of him. 1250 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,000 Yeah. 1251 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,000 You know, whose friends with him is Nick? 1252 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,000 We got to get Nick in us. 1253 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,000 Yeah. 1254 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,000 Nick plays music with him. 1255 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,000 Yeah. 1256 00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,000 Nick plays music with him. 1257 00:50:59,000 --> 00:50:59,000 Oh. 1258 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,000 Yeah. 1259 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,000 Yeah. 1260 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,000 Okay. 1261 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:02,000 I'll just-- 1262 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,000 I'll just-- 1263 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,000 I'll just-- 1264 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,360 - Yeah, a container. - Yeah, a container. 1265 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,780 - So what would we see? 1266 00:51:07,780 --> 00:51:09,400 We were debating the amount here. 1267 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,860 Josh said 20 grand worth of work. 1268 00:51:11,860 --> 00:51:14,380 I said 200 grand, which, who's right? 1269 00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:18,880 - Well, the 200, give them 200 almost 200. 1270 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,120 But I'm not saying that he owes me 200 grand 1271 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,620 because he did a lot of work. 1272 00:51:25,620 --> 00:51:27,440 - How much you think he's got left to do? 1273 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,280 If you had to put dollar on the ground. 1274 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:29,480 - At the end of the 20, 1275 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,160 20 seems to be about. 1276 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,140 - Right. 1277 00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:37,460 - It might be a little bit over 20. 1278 00:51:37,460 --> 00:51:38,300 - Man. 1279 00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:40,140 - But, yeah, it's saying 20. 1280 00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:40,980 I don't know. 1281 00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:42,340 It's hard for me to see yourself. 1282 00:51:42,340 --> 00:51:43,340 - Right. - Right. 1283 00:51:43,340 --> 00:51:46,780 - Because, like, how much does it cost to, 1284 00:51:46,780 --> 00:51:49,420 like, get a vanity and a toilet 1285 00:51:49,420 --> 00:51:51,540 and put it into a bathroom. 1286 00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:55,500 How much does it cost to break out a senior block wall? 1287 00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:57,740 - It depends on who you get, right? 1288 00:51:57,740 --> 00:51:59,620 Whoever your hire is going to give you a different price 1289 00:51:59,620 --> 00:52:00,500 for that every time. 1290 00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:01,340 - Yeah. 1291 00:52:01,340 --> 00:52:04,100 - So what does he done for 180 grand? 1292 00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:06,980 - Well, I mean, everything in this house. 1293 00:52:06,980 --> 00:52:11,180 I mean, all the walls upstairs, 1294 00:52:11,180 --> 00:52:14,620 or just about all the walls upstairs are different, 1295 00:52:14,620 --> 00:52:16,220 then you used to be, I mean, 1296 00:52:16,220 --> 00:52:20,820 we can figure the upstairs portion of the house. 1297 00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:23,260 You got all new windows, 1298 00:52:23,260 --> 00:52:26,020 although some of that was paid to McGuinowindos, 1299 00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:28,460 not to him directly, 1300 00:52:28,460 --> 00:52:31,380 but we have all new windows. 1301 00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:33,700 Some of the windows he put it in self-taught. 1302 00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,860 The kitchen, where a new kitchen, 1303 00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:39,860 the bathrooms are different places, 1304 00:52:39,860 --> 00:52:41,540 while one of them is in a different place, 1305 00:52:41,540 --> 00:52:42,580 and it was original. 1306 00:52:42,580 --> 00:52:47,500 But even the one that's essentially the same place, 1307 00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:51,380 the toilet and shower, well, 1308 00:52:51,380 --> 00:52:53,780 you put a shower in where they, 1309 00:52:53,780 --> 00:52:57,540 the previous owner had this huge hot tub, 1310 00:52:57,540 --> 00:53:01,540 and he took that out, he got rid of the elevator. 1311 00:53:01,540 --> 00:53:04,380 - Oh man, you got rid of the elevator. 1312 00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:05,220 - Wow. 1313 00:53:05,220 --> 00:53:06,060 - Yeah. 1314 00:53:06,060 --> 00:53:07,620 - You know the elevator? 1315 00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:08,780 - Oh, but she's. 1316 00:53:08,780 --> 00:53:10,780 - I did know it existed, I don't know what that was. 1317 00:53:10,780 --> 00:53:12,700 We actually, we played up to you bodies. 1318 00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:15,060 - Downstairs, he got rid of the growl. 1319 00:53:15,060 --> 00:53:17,100 - Yeah, I did know about that too, actually. 1320 00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:18,900 - Growl room, we took a mirror one. 1321 00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:20,260 - Yeah, yeah. 1322 00:53:20,260 --> 00:53:23,940 I mean, when we were there for building inspection, 1323 00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:29,980 we are, our daughter was looking around 1324 00:53:29,980 --> 00:53:33,980 and saw this closet with this sort of piece of 1325 00:53:33,980 --> 00:53:37,420 paneling, just sort of sitting there on the back of the closet. 1326 00:53:37,420 --> 00:53:40,900 You know, not really attached, and she moves it over, 1327 00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:43,780 and sees this room with a dirt floor 1328 00:53:43,780 --> 00:53:48,780 at a high pressure sodium lamp in there. 1329 00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:51,500 - Yeah, that's a good growl. 1330 00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:52,940 - Yeah, that's how we do it. 1331 00:53:52,940 --> 00:53:54,340 - Like salt? 1332 00:53:54,340 --> 00:53:56,980 - Yeah, yeah, high pressure sodium lighting. 1333 00:53:56,980 --> 00:53:57,820 - Interesting. 1334 00:53:57,820 --> 00:53:58,820 - Must be salt, well, yeah. 1335 00:53:58,820 --> 00:54:00,180 - That was not that of something that you see, 1336 00:54:00,180 --> 00:54:01,780 I think the use that we've used now, 1337 00:54:01,780 --> 00:54:05,940 but it was probably old, he probably had it for long time. 1338 00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:09,660 - So we maybe the contractor just smoked all the weed 1339 00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:10,940 and doesn't feel like coming back. 1340 00:54:10,940 --> 00:54:12,380 (laughing) 1341 00:54:12,380 --> 00:54:15,220 - I don't think so, no one said the weed is there. 1342 00:54:15,220 --> 00:54:16,540 (laughing) 1343 00:54:16,540 --> 00:54:20,740 I don't think just say, the previous owner, 1344 00:54:20,740 --> 00:54:24,820 should I, I don't know why I should say the thing, 1345 00:54:24,820 --> 00:54:29,820 the previous owner had used it as growl room for a while, 1346 00:54:29,820 --> 00:54:34,460 because I don't know, I mean, 1347 00:54:34,460 --> 00:54:35,540 even though that light was there, 1348 00:54:35,540 --> 00:54:38,780 but by the time we were, you know, 1349 00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:42,940 I think, you know, doing a final inspection that, 1350 00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:45,140 wow, I mean, everything was gone, 1351 00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:48,580 but the light was gone, and while a lot of that stuff, 1352 00:54:48,580 --> 00:54:50,540 I mean, I guess, could have left a light 1353 00:54:50,540 --> 00:54:53,180 and called it part of the, you know, picturesque, 1354 00:54:53,180 --> 00:54:54,860 but it was a shot, it was a shot, 1355 00:54:54,860 --> 00:54:57,020 it was a very obviously a shop space. 1356 00:54:57,020 --> 00:54:58,660 (laughing) 1357 00:54:58,660 --> 00:55:01,460 - Yeah, it was a time of the use of the photography. 1358 00:55:01,460 --> 00:55:03,420 - Yeah, dark, or really light. 1359 00:55:03,420 --> 00:55:06,620 - And, I mean, I could say he's done a lot, 1360 00:55:06,620 --> 00:55:09,180 you know, but two bathrooms, a kitchen. 1361 00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:11,900 - That's two beds, I think it did pretty good work, 1362 00:55:11,900 --> 00:55:14,420 otherwise, and now it's just sticking around the back. 1363 00:55:14,420 --> 00:55:15,940 - So was there a good work? 1364 00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:16,940 - It did good work. 1365 00:55:16,940 --> 00:55:18,140 - But was there a good ending? 1366 00:55:18,140 --> 00:55:19,860 - You know what I mean, did you have a contract 1367 00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:21,100 that said when you're done with this, 1368 00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:22,780 your done or was it just, 1369 00:55:22,780 --> 00:55:24,580 give me money and I'll keep showing up? 1370 00:55:24,580 --> 00:55:26,260 - I'm trying to pay, I mean, 1371 00:55:26,260 --> 00:55:28,860 the papers are kind of vague, it said, 1372 00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:34,860 things like trim work as needed and things like that. 1373 00:55:34,860 --> 00:55:38,020 - Don't ever put as needed for anything. 1374 00:55:38,020 --> 00:55:43,020 - Yeah, and the bathroom was downstairs, 1375 00:55:43,020 --> 00:55:48,020 was supposed to be done to contract your space, 1376 00:55:48,020 --> 00:55:50,420 the contractor grade or something like that. 1377 00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:52,060 Some phrase, and like that, but clearly, 1378 00:55:52,060 --> 00:55:56,100 that means a toilet and a vanity. 1379 00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:57,060 - Yeah, I have a thing, so. 1380 00:55:57,060 --> 00:55:58,180 - How did that? 1381 00:55:58,180 --> 00:56:00,100 - But, wait a minute, you got a bathroom 1382 00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:01,940 with just a tub? 1383 00:56:01,940 --> 00:56:02,780 - Yeah. 1384 00:56:02,780 --> 00:56:03,620 - Yeah, that's not right. 1385 00:56:03,620 --> 00:56:04,740 - Yeah, then he stopped. 1386 00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:06,620 - But it's, can you be a half bath, 1387 00:56:06,620 --> 00:56:07,460 a toilet? 1388 00:56:07,460 --> 00:56:11,420 - Yeah, it's dropped in for the toilet and vanity, 1389 00:56:11,420 --> 00:56:14,980 but it's not there. 1390 00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:18,620 So, and then some electrical stuff, like, 1391 00:56:18,620 --> 00:56:19,620 shocking. 1392 00:56:19,620 --> 00:56:22,020 (laughing) 1393 00:56:22,020 --> 00:56:26,060 - Electrical stuff was, oh, there's a light in the attic 1394 00:56:26,060 --> 00:56:29,100 and there's a switch at the bottom of the stairs, 1395 00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:31,220 but it doesn't control that light, 1396 00:56:31,220 --> 00:56:33,860 which doesn't seem to control anything, 1397 00:56:33,860 --> 00:56:36,220 but the only way to turn off that light up 1398 00:56:36,220 --> 00:56:38,660 in the attic is to loosen the light bulb. 1399 00:56:38,660 --> 00:56:43,580 - Just always, I can just kind of a minor thing. 1400 00:56:43,580 --> 00:56:44,580 - That's a ghost. 1401 00:56:44,580 --> 00:56:46,380 - When you paid that much money, it's not like that. 1402 00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:47,380 - I think that's a ghost. 1403 00:56:47,380 --> 00:56:49,820 (laughing) 1404 00:56:49,820 --> 00:56:53,620 - And then the, and one thing I was thinking about doing myself 1405 00:56:53,620 --> 00:56:57,260 and I probably can't, there's a light that goes down 1406 00:56:57,260 --> 00:57:00,900 to the basement, there's switches for it, 1407 00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:04,700 and there's a wires hanging out of the ceiling, 1408 00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:07,860 but I can't get up there to put that in myself. 1409 00:57:07,860 --> 00:57:12,380 The fixture's there, and he has a fixture there, 1410 00:57:12,380 --> 00:57:16,180 but it's like on the, it's above the stairs. 1411 00:57:16,180 --> 00:57:18,740 - It's got only three wires, there's just, 1412 00:57:18,740 --> 00:57:21,500 just lick your fingers and grab onto it, 1413 00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:23,740 to at the same time, and he'll tell you what's one of that. 1414 00:57:23,740 --> 00:57:25,860 - Oh, you gotta get a step ladder. 1415 00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:27,780 - Yeah, it's on the step. 1416 00:57:27,780 --> 00:57:30,460 - He didn't leave no step ladder for you, huh? 1417 00:57:30,460 --> 00:57:31,860 - Oh yeah, he left ladder. 1418 00:57:31,860 --> 00:57:33,300 - Oh there you go, those are more money, 1419 00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:34,300 cast those in, man. 1420 00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:35,740 - No, no, not a step ladder. 1421 00:57:35,740 --> 00:57:37,300 (laughing) 1422 00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:39,540 This is above the step. 1423 00:57:39,540 --> 00:57:40,980 - Oh, if it's a little giant, you can, 1424 00:57:40,980 --> 00:57:43,140 because you can adjust the legs differently. 1425 00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:46,020 You got to even them aluminum folding step ladders there. 1426 00:57:46,020 --> 00:57:46,860 - Yeah. 1427 00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:47,700 - You know what a giant is? 1428 00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:48,540 - Yeah, you can do that, though. 1429 00:57:48,540 --> 00:57:49,380 - You did leave it in the back. 1430 00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:50,220 - That's worth it. 1431 00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:51,660 - You're gonna have to lock a lot of shit too. 1432 00:57:51,660 --> 00:57:53,500 - Yes, a lot of stuff's worth cash. 1433 00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:54,980 - She's gotta be playing on coming back. 1434 00:57:54,980 --> 00:58:00,980 - I mean, I got a, he left one of these gas pile, 1435 00:58:00,980 --> 00:58:05,420 powered concrete saws. 1436 00:58:05,420 --> 00:58:08,220 - Oh man, that's three or four hundred bucks right there. 1437 00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:09,380 - You know what's gonna happen? 1438 00:58:09,380 --> 00:58:11,780 He's gonna turn around and sue Jeff for all of his old stuff. 1439 00:58:11,780 --> 00:58:14,140 - Yeah, it's a way to put him in the salad. 1440 00:58:14,140 --> 00:58:16,420 - The salad stuff, then I'm taking it a court. 1441 00:58:16,420 --> 00:58:18,420 - Like I saw this stuff and hire another country 1442 00:58:18,420 --> 00:58:19,260 and come back and finish it. 1443 00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:21,540 - How long has he not showed up? 1444 00:58:21,540 --> 00:58:25,500 - Well, and the January showed up 1445 00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:28,780 and did finished some of the electrical stuff. 1446 00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:33,940 Except that, you know, that, like what the things I just said, 1447 00:58:33,940 --> 00:58:38,340 everything else is done. 1448 00:58:38,340 --> 00:58:40,380 Well, there's two other things. 1449 00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:41,780 - There's a couple of months. 1450 00:58:41,780 --> 00:58:44,100 - There used to be three other things. 1451 00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:45,660 - No, two other things. 1452 00:58:45,660 --> 00:58:48,260 - Yeah, this first feel lighter the back porch. 1453 00:58:48,260 --> 00:58:49,500 That's not working. 1454 00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:51,460 And then there's a portion of the side 1455 00:58:51,460 --> 00:58:54,580 that this first feel lighter than there. 1456 00:58:54,580 --> 00:58:55,940 And that's not working. 1457 00:58:55,940 --> 00:59:00,780 He talked all along about early on, 1458 00:59:00,780 --> 00:59:04,700 they cut power to the outbuildings. 1459 00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:08,100 And it was always understood that he was gonna do that. 1460 00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:11,620 But I'm not sure that's actually scoped. 1461 00:59:11,620 --> 00:59:14,700 So I'm not, I'm not gonna say too much about that, 1462 00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:16,820 but my outbuildings I'm have power. 1463 00:59:16,820 --> 00:59:19,020 It's kind of annoying. 1464 00:59:19,020 --> 00:59:21,420 Even though there was power to begin with. 1465 00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:22,980 - Sure there was, I remember. 1466 00:59:22,980 --> 00:59:25,060 - I know, we used to hang out with electricians. 1467 00:59:25,060 --> 00:59:27,260 - You're on, that said that there was this, 1468 00:59:27,260 --> 00:59:33,540 was it specific electric panel on the outbuildings, 1469 00:59:33,540 --> 00:59:37,260 apparently it had been recalled. 1470 00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:40,860 And you know, all electricians, what I understand, 1471 00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:43,300 know that you can't keep this thing. 1472 00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:45,580 - Right, old panel. 1473 00:59:45,580 --> 00:59:47,420 - Yeah, the panel out there. 1474 00:59:47,420 --> 00:59:50,220 So that has some of the work, 1475 00:59:50,220 --> 00:59:52,140 the video-op building stuff, 1476 00:59:52,140 --> 00:59:54,980 I always, it was sort of impression 1477 00:59:54,980 --> 00:59:58,180 that was sort of like an add-on project, 1478 00:59:58,180 --> 01:00:01,500 which I've obviously not gonna have to add on that things. 1479 01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:05,260 And I was something to trim work, 1480 01:00:05,260 --> 01:00:06,980 I didn't say something to trim work down. 1481 01:00:06,980 --> 01:00:08,660 So a lot of the trim work down is. 1482 01:00:08,660 --> 01:00:10,540 - But other than that, 1483 01:00:10,540 --> 01:00:13,300 (laughing) 1484 01:00:13,300 --> 01:00:16,620 - Jesus, man. 1485 01:00:16,620 --> 01:00:19,020 - We have a whole podcast, just with the list of stuff, 1486 01:00:19,020 --> 01:00:20,500 but he's been done still. 1487 01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:21,340 - Yeah, okay. 1488 01:00:21,340 --> 01:00:22,820 - Been two months since he's been there, 1489 01:00:22,820 --> 01:00:24,340 I'd say it's time for him to, 1490 01:00:24,340 --> 01:00:27,220 - Hey Josh, you know, he's not gonna be a podcast sponsor. 1491 01:00:27,220 --> 01:00:29,060 (laughing) 1492 01:00:29,060 --> 01:00:30,060 - Yeah, I do. 1493 01:00:30,060 --> 01:00:32,260 - Oh my God. 1494 01:00:32,260 --> 01:00:33,380 - Honey, what answer is phone? 1495 01:00:33,380 --> 01:00:34,540 That's made of anyway. 1496 01:00:34,540 --> 01:00:35,860 - Yeah, he doesn't answer phone. 1497 01:00:35,860 --> 01:00:38,900 And I mean, not only does he not answer phone, 1498 01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:40,940 and he is just two phone numbers, 1499 01:00:40,940 --> 01:00:42,940 I love messing up both phone numbers, 1500 01:00:42,940 --> 01:00:44,780 I love through text messages, 1501 01:00:44,780 --> 01:00:46,220 I mean, I'll email them, 1502 01:00:46,220 --> 01:00:47,940 and I've gone to his house, 1503 01:00:47,940 --> 01:00:51,020 and I'm pretty sure when I went to his house, 1504 01:00:51,020 --> 01:00:54,020 that he saw my car and didn't go into his driveway 1505 01:00:54,020 --> 01:00:55,220 because he saw me. 1506 01:00:55,220 --> 01:00:56,060 - Yeah. 1507 01:00:56,060 --> 01:00:58,820 - I can't say that for 100% 1508 01:00:58,820 --> 01:01:00,660 because I saw a white truck. 1509 01:01:00,660 --> 01:01:02,820 - That was from a little, 1510 01:01:02,820 --> 01:01:04,460 - It was way, I couldn't tell for sure 1511 01:01:04,460 --> 01:01:05,700 it was his white truck. 1512 01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:08,420 But I went to the bar down the street there 1513 01:01:08,420 --> 01:01:09,780 and had a beer and came back 1514 01:01:09,780 --> 01:01:12,060 and then the white truck was there. 1515 01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:16,780 So I suspect that he was avoiding me. 1516 01:01:16,780 --> 01:01:18,260 - Does he have a dog? 1517 01:01:18,260 --> 01:01:19,020 I mean, you should just like, 1518 01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:20,900 - He had a big dog. 1519 01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:21,740 - Well, he got a dog. 1520 01:01:21,740 --> 01:01:22,740 - And that was dog. 1521 01:01:22,740 --> 01:01:24,740 - Kidnapped the dog and then say, 1522 01:01:24,740 --> 01:01:26,060 if you want the dog back, 1523 01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:27,900 you come to my house and finish the work. 1524 01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:29,900 (laughing) 1525 01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:31,380 - Yeah, I don't think so. 1526 01:01:31,380 --> 01:01:32,780 I had two big, 1527 01:01:32,780 --> 01:01:34,180 plus of the big dog, 1528 01:01:34,180 --> 01:01:35,700 but that means I would have to break it 1529 01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:37,660 to his house to get dog. 1530 01:01:37,660 --> 01:01:38,500 - I can do a house. 1531 01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:39,500 - I mean, obviously he'd 1532 01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:40,940 probably didn't finish the alarm system 1533 01:01:40,940 --> 01:01:41,780 at his own house. 1534 01:01:41,780 --> 01:01:42,660 - Probably be sitting right there. 1535 01:01:42,660 --> 01:01:44,380 - Oh yeah, oh, oh, he's house. 1536 01:01:44,380 --> 01:01:45,580 That's interesting. 1537 01:01:45,580 --> 01:01:46,580 - You just see, yeah. 1538 01:01:46,580 --> 01:01:49,260 - Get looks so undone as well. 1539 01:01:49,260 --> 01:01:50,660 - Well, there you go. 1540 01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:52,020 - Yeah, generally contractors 1541 01:01:52,020 --> 01:01:53,540 or anybody that works in instruction 1542 01:01:53,540 --> 01:01:56,380 just doesn't have any time to put into their own stuff. 1543 01:01:56,380 --> 01:01:58,420 Just like my dad or my grandfather 1544 01:01:58,420 --> 01:01:59,900 used to be a mechanic in his car. 1545 01:01:59,900 --> 01:02:02,020 Just never quite ran as good as everybody else. 1546 01:02:02,020 --> 01:02:03,180 (laughing) 1547 01:02:03,180 --> 01:02:04,700 Spend all day working on everybody else. 1548 01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:05,460 That's the thing you want to do 1549 01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:07,260 as work owners when you get home. 1550 01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:09,700 - Yeah, it's like my bagels in home. 1551 01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:10,900 They never go fully big. 1552 01:02:10,900 --> 01:02:12,540 - Mm-hmm. 1553 01:02:12,540 --> 01:02:13,860 - And my personal bagels. 1554 01:02:13,860 --> 01:02:16,060 - My personal bagels, they're never fully big. 1555 01:02:16,060 --> 01:02:16,900 - You know, a whole-- 1556 01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:18,380 - Oh, really. 1557 01:02:18,380 --> 01:02:19,500 - Yeah, no, it's a joke. 1558 01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:22,860 But I don't know, man, you know, we'll give more 1559 01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:25,740 more shot, but we call both numbers. 1560 01:02:25,740 --> 01:02:29,060 But we wanted to get the full story 1561 01:02:29,060 --> 01:02:30,780 for the listeners. 1562 01:02:30,780 --> 01:02:34,540 - Yeah, and you didn't leave a message. 1563 01:02:34,540 --> 01:02:35,860 So, you don't leave a message? 1564 01:02:35,860 --> 01:02:36,700 - You don't leave a message? 1565 01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:41,700 - So you have yet not, you have not mentioned his name here. 1566 01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:44,300 - It's the name came up on the voicemail, 1567 01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:45,140 but no. 1568 01:02:45,140 --> 01:02:45,980 - Yeah. 1569 01:02:45,980 --> 01:02:46,820 - I probably peep it out. 1570 01:02:46,820 --> 01:02:48,300 - I guess you haven't mentioned his name. 1571 01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:50,180 - No, I mean, here's the thing, Josh. 1572 01:02:50,180 --> 01:02:52,460 I feel like if I get sued for slander, 1573 01:02:52,460 --> 01:02:54,700 that means people are actually listening to the podcast. 1574 01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:55,540 - Right. 1575 01:02:55,540 --> 01:02:56,380 - So maybe that's not a bad thing. 1576 01:02:56,380 --> 01:02:57,820 - And ultimately, if it's his voicemail, 1577 01:02:57,820 --> 01:03:00,620 say in his name, and the name of his company, 1578 01:03:00,620 --> 01:03:02,140 then we didn't say it, they did, 1579 01:03:02,140 --> 01:03:03,820 'cause I haven't said it, you haven't said it. 1580 01:03:03,820 --> 01:03:04,660 - You didn't, you didn't. 1581 01:03:04,660 --> 01:03:07,500 - Oh, you left the call on them. 1582 01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:09,260 - Like we heard his voicemail, 1583 01:03:09,260 --> 01:03:11,140 - voicemail, he's popping up, and there's a message there. 1584 01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:12,660 - Yeah, and it's said the name of the contract 1585 01:03:12,660 --> 01:03:13,500 in company. 1586 01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:14,500 - And his name. 1587 01:03:14,500 --> 01:03:16,660 - But we didn't say it, it was his voicemail, but it's right. 1588 01:03:16,660 --> 01:03:18,100 - So technically, we haven't said anything. 1589 01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:19,580 - I don't know, but we need to get an attorney. 1590 01:03:19,580 --> 01:03:21,580 We not only need a female. 1591 01:03:21,580 --> 01:03:22,740 - Your sister's an attorney. 1592 01:03:22,740 --> 01:03:24,060 - Yeah, she ain't gonna help me on this one. 1593 01:03:24,060 --> 01:03:25,340 - My brother's an attorney. 1594 01:03:25,340 --> 01:03:26,900 (laughing) 1595 01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:29,340 - All right, we're gonna give him one more shot. 1596 01:03:29,340 --> 01:03:31,780 Don't home for much, 'cause we gotta get ready 1597 01:03:31,780 --> 01:03:32,860 to wrap up this episode. 1598 01:03:32,860 --> 01:03:34,060 But Jeff, thanks for being up to us. 1599 01:03:34,060 --> 01:03:34,900 - Yeah, man. 1600 01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:36,300 - Thanks, thanks for being here. 1601 01:03:36,300 --> 01:03:37,140 - We appreciate it, man. 1602 01:03:37,140 --> 01:03:39,300 We will talk, we're gonna figure this out either way. 1603 01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:40,140 - One way or the other. 1604 01:03:40,140 --> 01:03:43,100 - Yeah, well, you know, maybe you wanna show up at 1605 01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:45,660 as house, but it's a nice step here. 1606 01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:48,540 - Yeah, Josh and I, we had a climate, right? 1607 01:03:48,540 --> 01:03:50,820 And I'm gonna show up if we do it that way. 1608 01:03:50,820 --> 01:03:53,420 - Should be some sort of subpoose and like, 1609 01:03:53,420 --> 01:03:56,300 don't we'll hold this a what the whole thing works? 1610 01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:59,300 - Did he just say sub to future? 1611 01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:00,140 - I think that's true. 1612 01:04:00,140 --> 01:04:01,780 - Yeah, something that make it to the Hill, 1613 01:04:01,780 --> 01:04:04,140 and we know that. - Yeah, Jeff, 1614 01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:06,340 what is word sub sub to future? 1615 01:04:06,340 --> 01:04:07,180 What does that mean? 1616 01:04:07,180 --> 01:04:13,740 Something stinky or something. 1617 01:04:13,740 --> 01:04:17,460 - So we have to show up stinky. 1618 01:04:17,460 --> 01:04:26,340 - I mean, I ate this Mexican rice. 1619 01:04:26,340 --> 01:04:27,660 - Oh, stinky. 1620 01:04:27,660 --> 01:04:28,980 I was gonna say stinky. 1621 01:04:28,980 --> 01:04:31,060 I'm like, the Mexican rice with caso tonight. 1622 01:04:31,060 --> 01:04:32,460 - Maybe we'll head right over. 1623 01:04:32,460 --> 01:04:34,580 (laughing) 1624 01:04:34,580 --> 01:04:36,300 Give me an hour, I'll get him out. 1625 01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:38,100 Just leave one of those right on the doorstep. 1626 01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:41,460 Okay, all right, we'll listen. 1627 01:04:41,460 --> 01:04:45,020 We will either kidnap his dog or we'll get no. 1628 01:04:45,020 --> 01:04:47,180 We're not gonna tell you how to dodge. 1629 01:04:47,180 --> 01:04:48,020 - Do it. 1630 01:04:48,020 --> 01:04:49,700 - Mike, we're not Michael Vick here. 1631 01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:51,340 - We can get some salons, hot dogs. 1632 01:04:51,340 --> 01:04:52,180 We can make that dog. 1633 01:04:52,180 --> 01:04:53,020 - I wanna see do the fights. 1634 01:04:53,020 --> 01:04:56,100 - If we did kidnap the dog to our all of our listeners, 1635 01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:57,100 we would treat it well. 1636 01:04:57,100 --> 01:04:59,580 Like we wanna be those people that kidnap the dog 1637 01:04:59,580 --> 01:05:00,580 and was mean to it. 1638 01:05:00,580 --> 01:05:01,980 - Oh, it would be like, 1639 01:05:01,980 --> 01:05:03,820 - We're not treating his. 1640 01:05:03,820 --> 01:05:06,540 - By the way, Tom, what I'm seeing is his dogs. 1641 01:05:06,540 --> 01:05:08,980 When I know you've said about your dogs. 1642 01:05:08,980 --> 01:05:09,820 - Yeah. 1643 01:05:09,820 --> 01:05:13,820 - I think if you took his dog and brought it to your house, 1644 01:05:13,820 --> 01:05:15,660 you'd have one less dog. 1645 01:05:15,660 --> 01:05:17,820 - Did he keep eating my little doggy? 1646 01:05:17,820 --> 01:05:21,980 - The big dog, the one of the dogs really big. 1647 01:05:21,980 --> 01:05:23,780 - Yeah, well, whatever. 1648 01:05:23,780 --> 01:05:24,900 If you have a home here. 1649 01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:26,420 - Big dogs need that too. 1650 01:05:26,420 --> 01:05:28,260 - Big dogs. 1651 01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:29,580 - Did it seem, I know. 1652 01:05:29,580 --> 01:05:32,180 - My sense is this dog is barking at me 1653 01:05:32,180 --> 01:05:33,780 when I was knocking at the door. 1654 01:05:33,780 --> 01:05:36,580 - He looked friendly. 1655 01:05:36,580 --> 01:05:37,420 - Yeah. 1656 01:05:37,420 --> 01:05:39,380 - Did he look like he was from Arkansas? 1657 01:05:39,380 --> 01:05:40,700 Was he slow dog? 1658 01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:41,900 (laughing) 1659 01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:42,740 - They can't help it. 1660 01:05:42,740 --> 01:05:44,380 They don't have any tax money out there. 1661 01:05:44,380 --> 01:05:45,220 - Yeah, those are concerned. 1662 01:05:45,220 --> 01:05:46,740 - No school systems and lots of them. 1663 01:05:46,740 --> 01:05:47,940 - Yeah, you would have had to listen to the girl 1664 01:05:47,940 --> 01:05:49,580 in the party episode to appreciate that. 1665 01:05:49,580 --> 01:05:50,420 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1666 01:05:50,420 --> 01:05:52,100 I'll make sense when you listen back. 1667 01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:53,660 - Okay, listen back. 1668 01:05:53,660 --> 01:05:54,900 - All right, man, well we appreciate it. 1669 01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:57,300 Thanks for bringing out the podcast. 1670 01:05:57,300 --> 01:05:58,140 - Okay. 1671 01:05:58,140 --> 01:05:59,300 - All right, buddy, what's on you, dude? 1672 01:05:59,300 --> 01:06:00,140 - All right, bye. 1673 01:06:00,140 --> 01:06:04,580 - Why would you go to the phone calls? 1674 01:06:04,580 --> 01:06:06,740 - Jesus Christ, man, I thought that was, man. 1675 01:06:06,740 --> 01:06:08,060 I thought that was the best part of the show. 1676 01:06:08,060 --> 01:06:08,900 - Oh, I see. 1677 01:06:08,900 --> 01:06:10,260 - Do you wanna give the guy another shot? 1678 01:06:10,260 --> 01:06:12,860 - I mean, I'm just giving you a telling. 1679 01:06:12,860 --> 01:06:13,700 - Go ahead. 1680 01:06:13,700 --> 01:06:14,700 - 744, we got some time. 1681 01:06:14,700 --> 01:06:15,860 So I'm gonna always add it out. 1682 01:06:15,860 --> 01:06:17,620 So well, there's stuff that gets down to an hour. 1683 01:06:17,620 --> 01:06:18,980 All right, I'm gonna give you the choice. 1684 01:06:18,980 --> 01:06:21,420 873 or 9442. 1685 01:06:21,420 --> 01:06:22,260 - 9442. 1686 01:06:22,260 --> 01:06:23,100 - All right, here we go. 1687 01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:26,260 (bell ringing) 1688 01:06:26,260 --> 01:06:27,100 - I'm gonna leave it to you. 1689 01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:28,940 (bell ringing) 1690 01:06:28,940 --> 01:06:30,940 - I'm gonna leave it to you. 1691 01:06:30,940 --> 01:06:33,060 (bell ringing) 1692 01:06:33,060 --> 01:06:37,020 Or leave a voicemail, then they'll call you back. 1693 01:06:37,020 --> 01:06:39,380 They gotta make everything complicated. 1694 01:06:39,380 --> 01:06:41,300 Can't just fricking answer the phone. 1695 01:06:41,300 --> 01:06:43,980 Like, if you don't like what's on the other end, hang up. 1696 01:06:43,980 --> 01:06:45,980 (bell ringing) 1697 01:06:45,980 --> 01:06:46,820 - Oops. 1698 01:06:46,820 --> 01:06:48,820 - Shit, we got his name on there. 1699 01:06:48,820 --> 01:06:50,460 (laughing) 1700 01:06:50,460 --> 01:06:51,820 - I said, I said nothing. 1701 01:06:51,820 --> 01:06:52,660 (laughing) 1702 01:06:52,660 --> 01:06:53,660 And neither did you. 1703 01:06:53,660 --> 01:06:55,660 (laughing) 1704 01:06:56,660 --> 01:06:58,180 - Rule number one. 1705 01:06:58,180 --> 01:07:00,220 - In Shisster School is you don't put your business 1706 01:07:00,220 --> 01:07:02,580 name on your voice mail, but I don't do it. 1707 01:07:02,580 --> 01:07:03,420 - I'm not good. 1708 01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:04,260 I might be that out. 1709 01:07:04,260 --> 01:07:06,060 I haven't decided yet. 1710 01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:07,620 - Probably just tried to start a business 1711 01:07:07,620 --> 01:07:10,100 and didn't realize how damn hard it is to start a business 1712 01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,540 with no money, you know, small business is an easy. 1713 01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:15,100 - You know, you know, we got small business. 1714 01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:16,660 - Construction, there's a lot more over there. 1715 01:07:16,660 --> 01:07:18,060 - We turned calls though, no. 1716 01:07:18,060 --> 01:07:20,140 - I answer mine, right off the get. 1717 01:07:20,140 --> 01:07:21,580 - You're called me to do your money. 1718 01:07:21,580 --> 01:07:22,420 - I'm taking my money. 1719 01:07:22,420 --> 01:07:23,420 - Taking life head on, right? 1720 01:07:23,420 --> 01:07:24,740 - Oh, give it to me. 1721 01:07:24,740 --> 01:07:25,980 - Yeah. 1722 01:07:25,980 --> 01:07:27,460 - All right, we're gonna wrap this baby up. 1723 01:07:27,460 --> 01:07:29,340 It's always a spirit and discussion. 1724 01:07:29,340 --> 01:07:32,340 This was both odd and beautiful. 1725 01:07:32,340 --> 01:07:33,180 - All over the place. 1726 01:07:33,180 --> 01:07:34,660 - Every possible way. 1727 01:07:34,660 --> 01:07:39,660 I mean, we've easily offended no one at all. 1728 01:07:39,660 --> 01:07:42,540 - Groups of people and remodlers. 1729 01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:44,260 - Definitely not what I was going for. 1730 01:07:44,260 --> 01:07:45,380 - No, we don't. 1731 01:07:45,380 --> 01:07:47,580 - We always speak the truth when we get together. 1732 01:07:47,580 --> 01:07:48,420 - We live. 1733 01:07:48,420 --> 01:07:49,420 - The truth hurts and I'm sorry. 1734 01:07:49,420 --> 01:07:50,260 - Yes. 1735 01:07:50,260 --> 01:07:50,980 - Sorry for that folks. 1736 01:07:50,980 --> 01:07:52,140 - Yes. 1737 01:07:52,140 --> 01:07:53,220 - All right, man, well thanks for listening 1738 01:07:53,220 --> 01:07:55,020 to the big ol' logic podcast, Josh. 1739 01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:55,860 What are we gonna do this guy? 1740 01:07:55,860 --> 01:07:57,660 We just gotta make this regular thing. 1741 01:07:57,660 --> 01:07:58,500 - At least one. 1742 01:07:58,500 --> 01:07:59,340 - At least. 1743 01:07:59,340 --> 01:08:00,180 - Okay. 1744 01:08:00,180 --> 01:08:03,180 - We're gonna shake, we're gonna shake on once a month. 1745 01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:05,300 If there's any female foils. 1746 01:08:05,300 --> 01:08:06,140 - Yeah. 1747 01:08:06,140 --> 01:08:07,140 - Listening, love us no. 1748 01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:09,140 - A interview and that doesn't mean you got the job. 1749 01:08:09,140 --> 01:08:10,140 - Yeah. 1750 01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:14,100 Also, I'd like to put out there's our new feature for the second half 1751 01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:15,100 of the show. 1752 01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:17,180 If you need us to make a phone call for you, 1753 01:08:17,180 --> 01:08:18,580 we're gonna start doing anything. 1754 01:08:18,580 --> 01:08:19,420 - I think we could do that. 1755 01:08:19,420 --> 01:08:20,700 - And if somebody actually answers. 1756 01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:21,540 - We can't. 1757 01:08:21,540 --> 01:08:24,300 Like if you need to break up with a girlfriend, 1758 01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:25,620 or tell your boss. 1759 01:08:25,620 --> 01:08:26,620 - Somebody owes your money. 1760 01:08:26,620 --> 01:08:28,700 - You shut it or you're quitting your job. 1761 01:08:28,700 --> 01:08:29,620 - Any of that stuff. 1762 01:08:29,620 --> 01:08:30,460 - Yeah. 1763 01:08:30,460 --> 01:08:31,300 - You know, I don't know. 1764 01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:32,140 - Yeah, let us know. 1765 01:08:32,140 --> 01:08:33,660 We'll do it 'cause it's gonna make great things. 1766 01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:35,300 - It's gotta be willing to put it out there. 1767 01:08:35,300 --> 01:08:36,300 - You gotta be willing. 1768 01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:38,660 - We could try to change the names. 1769 01:08:38,660 --> 01:08:39,500 - No. 1770 01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:40,500 - But that would be any fun. 1771 01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:41,340 - We just people. 1772 01:08:41,340 --> 01:08:42,180 - If we do anything. 1773 01:08:42,180 --> 01:08:43,180 - We have a bunch of people. 1774 01:08:43,180 --> 01:08:44,020 - Yeah. 1775 01:08:44,020 --> 01:08:47,460 All right, well, until next time, this is Tom and... 1776 01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:48,460 - Josh. 1777 01:08:48,460 --> 01:08:50,140 - Sayin' I don't know what that. 1778 01:08:50,140 --> 01:08:51,300 What do I say to say goodbye? 1779 01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:52,140 - We'll just take a bite. 1780 01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:52,980 - See you around. 1781 01:08:52,980 --> 01:08:53,800 - Bye. 1782 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:58,260 - Find a stop and play. 1783 01:08:58,260 --> 01:09:00,100 - Jesus Christ. 1784 01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:01,580 - And the fight.