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kind of got to a point where I
2:02
think you have to really bet on yourself
2:04
thing. And it's just
2:06
kind of when the industry wasn't
2:09
serving me anymore, but also I'm very much one of
2:11
those people who kind of sees the writing
2:13
on the wall. And I feel like so many
2:15
of us in editorial, I was just like, this is a sinking ship
2:17
and either I'm going to jump before it completely
2:19
capsizes, or I'm going to be on it
2:22
when it capsizes and have to get myself back up to the
2:24
top. So I tell
2:26
people like content creation right now is paying
2:28
the bill, but television
2:31
and on-air hosting is exactly what I want
2:34
to do. I tell people the easiest
2:36
way to describe what I want to do is like Maya
2:39
Jama who hosts Love Island UK.
2:41
She's like the big UK it girl for hosting.
2:44
I want to be the US Maya Jama, except
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the US like newbie, but I feel like it's the easiest
2:49
way to kind of explain to people the
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type of hosting I want to do. I want to host all the
2:53
dating shows. I want to host all the fun shows. I
2:55
want to host all of the game shows. Like
2:57
whenever you turn on your TV the
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same way like
3:01
Steve Harvey's Monopolize is hosting
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everything. I kind of want to like
3:07
slide in there in some of those ways.
3:09
Yes. So that is the pivot is
3:11
to hosting and television, but
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content creation is just kind of like a piece of that. But
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I was doing that even when I was in editorial. Oh,
3:19
that is a beautiful vision. I thank you. Thank
3:22
you. I'm so excited for you. I'm trying. It
3:24
is hard. The strike. Yeah.
3:27
Pause a lot of things. I think people think that it was just
3:29
scripted, but it impacted the entire industry.
3:31
So even non scripted. So my hope is
3:33
that now that writers are getting their due
3:36
and hopefully next the actors get their due
3:38
and everything can kind of not go back to
3:40
normal because normal was not working, but
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kind of go back to a pace where I can
3:45
really get the ball moving on television. Exactly.
3:48
Yeah. And I love what you just said about
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how content creation is paying the bills while
3:52
you're kind of working on building a different
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direction for your career, because I think that's
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important. A lot of us, we need to do
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that.
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And then when I was finally in position, I was
6:02
able to leave. Yeah. But
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it's like, you know, it's like jumping off
6:06
a cliff from 10 feet back. But
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you have to get catch momentum to be able to jump. Absolutely.
6:12
And so yeah, it's about, it's about that momentum
6:15
first. Definitely. Yeah. What were some of the
6:17
steps you took to prepare you to make that change?
6:20
So when I knew I wanted to leave editorial, I
6:23
started really, really cultivating my relationships
6:25
that I already had had for years with brands. Yeah. I
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think half the industry
6:30
knew before Essence knew, I'm going
6:32
to be honest. Like I had told every publicist
6:35
I knew. Yeah. I was like, in
6:37
three months I'm leaving. I was like, I want
6:39
to let y'all know in 90 days I'm out of here. So
6:42
keep me in mind for influencer things. Keep me in mind
6:44
for consulting. Keep me in mind for hosting any panels
6:46
or events that you guys may have. And
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I told everybody. Yeah. So
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I think which two, you
6:53
have to teeter that line closely too,
6:56
right? Because it's like, well, you don't want your employer
6:58
to be like, how does everybody else know that you're
7:00
leaving? But so you need to know who to tell, how
7:02
to tell them
7:03
what to tell them. I
7:07
made sure that I had enough money lined up. So
7:09
I had said yes to enough brand partnership
7:12
that I knew, okay, how many
7:15
months do we have? Yep. And
7:18
then I had lined up my VC
7:20
role. And like, so it's, it's
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not as simple as like, you know, but
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I think about all the time I was also having this conversation.
7:27
I would not have been stable enough if I had just
7:29
relied on those brand partnerships at the time. Yeah.
7:32
Had I just bet on those brand partnerships that
7:34
I had, who knows? And I really
7:36
had to get myself together. It was like,
7:38
we need to post more. Yeah. I needed to, so
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I, I upped how much I was posting on TikTok,
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upped how much I was posting on Instagram, really
7:45
in those 90 days leading up to me leaving.
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Yeah. Super smart. So everything, it was kind of
7:50
different pieces of the puzzle that all fit together. Yes.
7:52
Yeah. You can't just jump. Mm-hmm. You cannot
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just, and we've seen these success stories, right? We
7:57
see these huge influencers,
7:59
like these young. girls who are absolutely incredible.
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Like I think about like Monet who just
8:03
hit in the Forbes list, right? But it's like Monet
8:06
is the outlier. Yeah. As fantastic
8:09
and how as divine as her content is, she
8:11
is the outlier. Yeah. Especially
8:13
for women that look like us. Like
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I implore you to tell me five Monet's.
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Right. And so it's like, for
8:20
many of us, we are becoming
8:23
content creators and doing these pivots from
8:25
having jobs. Yep. Exactly.
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You had a video a while back where you
10:36
said a really beautiful sentiment where it's
10:39
expensive to dream. It is expensive to
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dream. It's a privilege to dream is what you said. Yes.
10:44
Which is, I think, so important and not enough
10:46
people acknowledge that and talk about that because
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it's hard to dream if your basic needs aren't being
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met. If you're thinking about survival, there's
10:53
not room. No. I
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think I've been able to be extra audacious, take
10:57
risks that other people have not had because I have
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always known in the back of my head,
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which is where the privilege comes in, I've always known
11:05
in the back of my head that my parents
11:08
will always be there to catch me. Yeah.
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I think that while it's a
11:13
point where my parents are like, now we think, I
11:15
don't have to ask my parents for anything. Right?
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You are more inclined to take those risks
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when you know that there
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are parents, not only who can be that
11:26
safety net, but who are equally as invested in you
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achieving your goals. Yeah. Because
11:31
there were me and my mom, it was funny when I got the essence
11:34
role, she sent me this long text about how proud
11:36
she was of me, but she also was talking
11:38
about how me and her had
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had this
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blowout fight.
11:43
Three or four months before I got the essence role,
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because she was just like, you're not making enough
11:49
money. Me and your father are about done
11:51
supporting you and these dreams. You
11:53
need to move home and to DC
11:56
and you need to just copyright
11:58
or do something, but you can't.
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you don't need to be doing it here.
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Because it was, it was just like, there
12:04
has to be an end time. My parents had given me
12:06
an end time and I was about to approach that end
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time. It literally
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just happened. It literally
12:13
may be a month, two months later, I got the SN shot.
12:16
But
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yeah, I had been able to
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dream as big as I had because
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my parents have always been like, this is what Blake
12:24
wants to do. So we're gonna support
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it. And that is not a privilege
12:28
that everyone has. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
12:31
definitely. I can relate and feel
12:33
similarly, like my parents have not been able to
12:35
necessarily provide financial support, but in terms
12:37
of moral support and encouragement
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and stability of, if I did want
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to move back home with Seattle,
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I don't. But if I did, I would always have a place
12:46
to go that is stable and safe and supportive.
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I think my mom would want me to move back. I think she wants me to move
12:51
back. I'm like, well, I'm like, I'm 30. What do you like,
12:53
I'm almost 30. Like, what do you want me to do? Like, you want me to
12:55
move back? But I think like in perfect,
12:57
in the perfect world, she wants me to move back home. That
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comfort of having you close, they love that.
13:02
But they also love seeing you spread your wings. They
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think they're, my parents think they're influencers. Every
13:07
single time my dad is asking me
13:09
for residuals in his US open
13:12
content. I'm like, okay, absolutely not.
13:14
I'm the talent. Absolutely, they really think
13:16
they're influencers. I'm like, me and my mom did the Jurgens
13:19
campaign, which was beautiful. She's like,
13:21
where's my percentage? And I'm like,
13:23
oh, sweet God. But yes, they love it. They
13:25
love it. They love it. Definitely.
13:28
And it's, I'm sure an amazing thing to see your
13:30
child be able to reach their goals
13:33
and have these beautiful dreams. And I'm also sure it
13:35
was probably a really hard conversation when she did call
13:37
you and was like, listen. Well, funny enough, we
13:39
had it in person. Oh. Because she
13:41
came to New York to visit me. She loves to come and visit
13:43
me. Yeah. I'll never forget we had it. And
13:45
I was like, you can leave. She
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like, so when she texted me after
13:50
I got Nessa's job, and she was just like, because
13:53
I just, and sometimes too, it's like, I
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love my parents. Like they have, I
13:58
rave about them all the time. Yeah. But I do
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think that sometimes, especially
14:02
with our parents generation, we
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are able to see things for
14:07
ourselves that maybe they can't because their
14:09
path was much more traditional. For sure. For
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so many of our parents, they're the first college graduates,
14:14
or you know what I'm saying? And so like, for many
14:16
of them, it's like, but this is not, this
14:18
is unconventional, and it hasn't worked for this long.
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Like, I think you need to go the conventional route.
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But I think when me and my mom were having that conversation,
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like, I just knew that there was bigger,
14:27
and I just knew that there was more. But
14:30
how do you say that to the parent,
14:32
who is like, we are damn near paying your rent
14:35
every single month. Like, you are barely contributing anything
14:38
because your income can't allow
14:40
for that. So it was a tough conversation.
14:42
But it is, I think, sometimes, I
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think that is when the betting on yourself and really
14:47
just staying step, but like, I just told them, I was just like,
14:49
I know that there's more. And there
14:51
was more. But sometimes
14:54
they can't see what we can see in ourselves
14:56
and for our future. Yeah, absolutely.
14:58
And also during that time, when things
15:00
were at a little bit of a lull, and you were having to
15:02
really bet on and believe in yourself, how
15:04
were you staying encouraged?
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I don't know. I don't
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know. I think that the
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reason I say encouraged is because it has always been,
15:14
at least with my career path, it's always been
15:16
the slow creep. So while
15:17
it seems like it
15:20
was a lull, it has always been a creep. So
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it was like, in COVID, I was getting
15:24
all of these newer
15:28
deals. So I was just like, while
15:31
it wasn't the springboard
15:33
that essence was, I was always getting
15:36
something a little bigger. And I think that that
15:38
makes you encouraged because you're like, well, this person
15:40
sees me or this brand sees me. So if I just keep
15:42
at it, then it'll be bigger. And I
15:44
think too, it's like, as I'm sure
15:47
you've experienced, I think sometimes, not
15:49
even to sound arrogant, but I think sometimes
15:51
you just feel in your heart that you're going to be a star. And
15:54
you don't know how, and you don't know the
15:56
path that it's going to be, and you don't know the route
15:58
that it's going to take. But you just know
16:01
in your heart of heart, there's something
16:03
really big at
16:06
whatever the end of what this is. And
16:08
I think that that, I think slight
16:11
delusion is
16:13
what kept me in place. Absolutely.
16:15
Yeah. Embrace the delusion. The
16:17
delulu is really, it is
16:19
important, and I think that I've only recently understood how
16:22
important it is. You have to be, to
16:24
do what we do, you have to be slightly delusional.
16:26
You do. This industry doesn't make sense. You
16:28
put yourself out there like that? Yeah.
16:30
You put yourself out there,
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a slight bit of delusion is actually
16:34
very healthy. I think,
16:36
and the only way to survive is through this. It is. Yeah,
16:39
definitely. Yeah. I agree that
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I do think you have this feeling where
16:44
you know you're meant for more, or you're in a space
16:46
where there's something else, and
16:48
I want to follow that. It's
16:50
just the how. Yeah. And
16:52
that's the thing is, I think about when I was doing the
16:55
It's Expensive to Dream video, it was
16:57
because a girl had asked, and it was like so many
16:59
people had responded, and they're like, the
17:01
thing is, I believe in myself, and I know that there's
17:03
more. Yeah. But I don't have
17:05
that safety net. Yeah. And so it does,
17:08
it puts into perspective, again, the privilege
17:10
when it's like, there's so many people out here
17:13
who actually are destined for more, who have a skill
17:15
set, who are meant to be stars, but literally
17:17
just don't have the circumstances to
17:20
be able to be delusional. Right.
17:23
And I think that's definitely operating in logic,
17:26
and what makes sense for the moment. And I have been able
17:28
to operate
17:30
in spaces of delusion and spaces where it's like,
17:32
this doesn't really make much sense, but I was able to do it
17:34
anyway. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
17:37
Yeah. And I think in that, it makes me
17:39
wonder, like, how do we invest in those people?
17:41
Yes. Because they can't have space
17:43
to do that, or help one another create safety nets, even if we don't have
17:45
one built in. Yes. And what that
17:47
looks like. And I think there's, because there seems to be
17:50
so many things, not so many, but a lot
17:52
of things in place for people who want to be small business
17:54
owners,
17:54
or there's
17:55
so many things
17:57
for black people who want to do those things.
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But there are not as many resources
18:03
for black people who want to do what we do in
18:05
terms of just content creation, because it's too volatile
18:08
for these big corporations
18:11
or big money to invest
18:13
in. There's corporations,
18:16
I just did a partnership with UPS, they're investing in
18:18
black designers, everything. But unfortunately,
18:20
there aren't as
18:22
many people out there willing to
18:24
bet on things that aren't as tangible. And
18:27
so it does suck, because there are so many
18:29
girls who could be these big content creators. But
18:32
what people don't understand is becoming a content creator is
18:34
expensive. It is. I
18:36
became a content creator because of the many
18:38
places I was able to go because
18:41
of my job. Whereas it's
18:43
like, people are always like, well, how do I get
18:45
into these spaces? Again, you have to have the
18:47
avenue to get into the spaces. So
18:50
it is unfortunate, because you think, like
18:52
you said, you think about how much talent is out there that
18:54
just can't be in position.
18:57
Definitely. And one
19:00
thing that I'm hopeful about is that we
19:02
are at a time where access
19:04
to creating a platform is more democratized
19:07
than it's ever been. Even shows like this.
19:09
I was able to create a podcast in my bedroom
19:12
five years ago that is now what it is, versus 15
19:14
years ago, you needed a
19:16
radio deal or a TV deal to reach people
19:18
in that way. And so there
19:20
are ways. We just have to sometimes be a little
19:23
bit crafty, and it takes a while. And
19:26
I think that's the thing is the crafting end. But
19:28
it is. But I think, again,
19:31
you had the resources
19:32
to be crafty.
19:34
So I just weren't a really
19:36
privileged position. But
19:38
it is. It's just like there's so many, even when you
19:40
look at some of the TikTokers who are
19:43
clearly not industry girls, but are
19:45
just hilarious girls sitting in the house in the
19:47
back. There's so much
19:50
black creativity out there. And
19:52
so it is. Even when I look at brands
19:55
like Topicals just did a brand
19:57
trip. And they took some.
19:59
Of course, it was.
19:59
some influencers that you were like, yes, we didn't,
20:02
we didn't anticipate those. And then they had these
20:04
curve balls in there. And it was
20:06
like, these are the black women
20:09
who wouldn't usually get opportunities to be
20:11
on these trips or the black men that wouldn't get opportunities to
20:13
be on this trip. So I think to there
20:16
are places, you know what I'm saying? That is an avenue
20:18
Yeah, to put them in different positions.
20:20
That's the way and it's refreshing to see. Oh, yeah.
20:23
Yeah. I was like, this is a group. I
20:25
was like, this looks so fun. So yeah, there
20:28
is yes, there are
20:29
not loopholes, but there are
20:31
pathways to doing it. Absolutely.
20:34
Yeah. Yeah. One of the things I would love to
20:36
go back to when we were talking more about your
20:38
pivot from leaving editorial going into
20:40
content creation, was you touched
20:42
on the importance of relationships, how you had
20:44
relationships with different people, and you were kind of getting
20:47
those things into position to prepare
20:49
you to take that step. What has been
20:51
really helpful for you in terms of building
20:53
your network, building those relationships and
20:55
cultivating relationships?
20:56
I say all the time, I am
20:58
my father's child. And
21:00
when I say that, I am a chatty
21:02
girl. So I think, number
21:05
one, what has been good for relationships, which again,
21:07
can also be a burden because it's like not everybody
21:10
is like this, but I'm super outgoing.
21:12
Like I could talk to a brick wall if I wanted
21:15
to. And so I think that has helped is that like, I'm
21:17
super chatty and talkative.
21:20
But I'm also just I've always been
21:22
what is very, very much been emphasized to me,
21:25
because I also talked about this in the It's Expensive
21:27
to
21:27
Dream piece was, I've
21:29
witnessed my parents do it. Yeah, right.
21:31
Like my first job at CVS,
21:34
when I moved to the city, was through
21:36
a family friend, my job at
21:38
Glamour that I got was through a family friend.
21:42
And it's like, you know, some
21:44
people call it black nepotism.
21:45
But
21:46
I've witnessed my parents maintain
21:49
and cultivate these relationships so that when their kids became
21:51
of age, or wanting to do things, they could call on people.
21:53
Yeah. And so I think that I have just really
21:56
adopted that and not for not
21:58
for my own personal game because I I talk about that a
22:00
lot. I don't go into
22:03
a relationship with people from
22:05
the standpoint of what can you do for
22:07
me. There's a lot of that in the industry.
22:09
But I literally just go into it. I'm going to be
22:11
Blake and that goes into believing and betting
22:13
on yourself. And I'm like, Blake is pretty
22:16
damn likeable. Maybe not to everybody, but
22:18
there are a lot of people that like me. I'm
22:20
pretty damn likeable. I'm nice. I'll
22:23
talk to anybody. I'm like,
22:26
girls when they meet me in person, they're like, you act
22:28
just like you do on TikTok. I'm
22:31
being myself. I'm being myself. And
22:33
so I think not just relationships,
22:35
but like ability. If I have
22:37
learned anything is that people can read through when
22:39
it is contrived, when it
22:41
is for you want something,
22:45
just talk to people. And it
22:47
has helped me because it's like when
22:49
young girls or other people are like, I
22:51
really want to do this or I want a job here. I
22:54
usually know somebody that I can call to
22:56
help. And usually because I've
22:58
been just nice to them, they
23:00
are willing to help. Absolutely.
23:03
Yeah. I had someone recently
23:05
ask for advice on starting to work with
23:08
brands and how they do that. And what I
23:10
told her was like, brands don't make decisions.
23:12
People do. Yes. Get
23:14
to know people and have them be familiar
23:16
with your work so that when an opportunity comes up,
23:18
you're top of mind. They know you. They're
23:21
familiar with you. So I think sometimes we do
23:23
think, OK, this brand or this entity or this
23:25
thing, but it's all people behind it. Keep follow up.
23:27
Like, you know, I'm like, keep like
23:29
I, for example, like I had done my first partnership
23:32
with AT&T at Essence Fest and
23:35
I was just myself. I was easy to
23:37
work with. I did the work. Doing
23:39
the work is important. Yes. I did
23:41
the work and I was good at the work. And
23:44
when it was time, they have this big initiative
23:47
this year and they always pick a face. They came
23:49
back and picked me as a face. And
23:51
it's like, but I kept in contact.
23:54
Yes. Social media has made that easier so
23:56
you don't have an excuse. Comment
23:58
on the person's picture. Like a
24:01
story, like just continue
24:03
to interact. Social
24:05
media has made that much easier. Like it used to be where you
24:08
had to send a follow-up email every six months. Like,
24:10
are you just checking in? Now
24:13
you don't have to phone call, just comment,
24:15
like just stay in
24:17
their orbit. Yeah, stay
24:20
in conversation, go the long way.
24:25
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I would also love to talk to you a little bit about beauty because
26:41
you obviously are an expert in the beauty
26:43
and time and space. And
26:46
as this episode comes out, we're kind of nearing the end of the year.
26:49
It's holiday time, it's shopping time. I
26:51
think a lot about what it means to be
26:53
kind of a savvy consumer because
26:55
there's so many
26:56
things vying for our points
26:59
and our attention. And
27:01
so as somebody who has worked
27:04
with so
27:04
many brands, tried so many things, I'm curious about
27:06
how you go about being a smart
27:08
consumer
27:09
and what gets your attention. I've had to completely
27:11
change my ideals on consumerism
27:14
in the beauty space because
27:17
I ruined my skin. I've
27:19
been talking about this on TikTok. I've ruined my skin. So
27:22
I had to completely get my skin back in order. So
27:25
now I would dare to say my beauty routine
27:27
is a lot more pared down than people would think. I've
27:29
always been a makeup girl. Like I feel like there's never
27:32
an issue with trying
27:34
new makeup. But I think find the things
27:36
that work for you and find the things that work for your
27:38
body. For example, like my skin,
27:41
like I am now on
27:43
tretinoin. Like I think that is important.
27:45
Like if you have acne skin, go
27:48
to a professional, go to a derm, prescribe
27:51
something. Now I don't deviate. So unfortunately
27:53
I don't try much skincare anymore.
27:56
I try a lot of body care. That has been
27:58
my new thing to explore. because I've
28:01
been telling people that, number one,
28:03
body care is a booming industry right now. It's like
28:05
all the brands are deciding on skincare for body. But
28:08
I've been telling people like so
28:10
many black girls, you know how there's like those running jokes
28:12
about like black girls when we're kids, we all get like scars
28:14
on our ankles. Like, I
28:16
don't know, but the issue is that I've continued to scar
28:19
into adulthood. Like I could rub up against a pillow
28:21
and I scar. So I've been telling people a lot
28:23
about like discoloration, like discoloration
28:25
has been a big thing. So I've been using like a lot
28:28
of vitamin E, topical slather.
28:31
I love slather. It's so good for
28:33
body care, Augustina's Botter,
28:36
like Nessa Sayre, all of these brands have
28:38
really great body care. I personally
28:41
think that you can never splurge
28:43
enough on fragrance that involves perfumes
28:46
and candles. So that is the one thing
28:49
where it's like, Dan Blake, do you have enough candles
28:51
and fragrance? Actually, no. The
28:53
answer is no. The limit does not exist.
28:56
And I think makeup continue to, if that's your
28:58
thing, for the girls
29:00
who want to explore makeup and don't like
29:02
love heavy makeup, like I'm a
29:05
full face girl, because I'm always on camera and
29:07
I am not above body dysmorphia and
29:09
hating the way I look on camera. So I wear a lot,
29:12
now I do a lot of camera makeup, but
29:15
for the girls who don't do all that, like Ami Kole has
29:17
fantastic like finger,
29:21
like rare beauty is great with the easy makeup.
29:24
Like there's so many things, but I think
29:26
that the one thing that you can never go wrong with,
29:29
fragrance and body care,
29:31
especially as a black girl. Yes, definitely.
29:34
We always want to smell good and feel good. And
29:37
it's always like people say it, but it really
29:39
is a thing when they're like, she looks like she smells
29:41
good. The best compliment. Like that's a thing. It
29:43
is. That is a thing. So smell good.
29:45
Yes. I also love what you just said about knowing
29:48
kind of what's important to you or what your thing is, being
29:51
willing to go all in on that. And then if something's
29:53
not your thing, if you're not into it, you tune it up.
29:55
You don't. The other thing about me is I'm like all the
29:57
way over here. So like. It's
30:00
like, Blake is pretty extreme. So like, yeah, like
30:02
I am very extreme now with the skincare
30:04
and the body care and all these things. That doesn't have
30:06
to be for everybody. That is just personally what
30:09
I really take a lot of pride
30:12
in self, like not even, yeah.
30:15
I guess you call it self care or upkeep. Yeah.
30:18
Like I spend a lot, that is where I'm willing
30:20
to spend a ton of my money
30:23
is in upkeep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
30:26
And you made a point too, and I think thought about this
30:28
a lot, especially now that the podcast is like becoming
30:30
video because it used to be audio only. It
30:33
is when you see yourself a lot and
30:35
your job involves now being
30:37
perceived.
30:38
It does girl. It's like,
30:40
oh, this is, I have been like, because
30:44
as I'm sure you can imagine,
30:46
you're like, this is not actually how I look. Right.
30:49
Yeah. You'll see yourself and you're like,
30:51
I'm telling y'all something's lost in translation.
30:53
Something is lost in translation. These cameras, these lights.
30:56
You start looking
30:58
like a completely different person. Yeah.
31:00
And so now, yeah,
31:02
like it's a little heavy handed
31:04
with the makeup,
31:05
like admittedly so. And so,
31:08
but that is my thing. Like I said, I'm a
31:10
lot of things, but I'm not a girl who is above
31:13
looking at herself. And like
31:15
the impact of society has not
31:17
skipped me and I'm
31:19
very unapologetic in that. Like you'll go to my TikTok
31:22
and I'm like, come to me to get fillers, come
31:24
to me to get this done. I'm not above
31:27
it. Well, and I think a lot of us appreciate the
31:29
honesty too, because for a long time, people were
31:31
doing those things and acting like they didn't. Yes.
31:34
And it's like, just let us know. Do you wanna?
31:36
We wanna do that. But that's something I
31:38
just got an email today. They were like, do you wanna come in? Cause
31:40
you know everybody's talking about facial balancing.
31:43
And I got an email like, do you wanna do facial
31:46
balancing? And I'm like, yeah. So
31:48
I'm gonna go do that. Yeah, and try it out. Tune in
31:50
to TikTok. I'll be doing facial balancing
31:52
on TikTok. Cause I'm gonna do it. But
31:55
I will say,
31:56
you have to have people though around you who are willing to tell
31:58
you to stop. Right.
31:59
Yes,
32:00
like they're like i've
32:03
definitely like I've
32:05
noticeably people always keep coming on my tick tock recently.
32:07
Everybody's like you're noticeably smaller Like
32:09
I have a friend that called me the other day. It was
32:11
like let's not lose too much more Wait,
32:14
like like, you know i'm saying like let's not
32:16
like let's not do that or
32:18
my mom is always like so do we need
32:20
to?
32:21
Do you have to go get the botox
32:23
like your face is already not moving Do we need more botox
32:26
in the face or like? It is important to
32:28
have people though who will ground you to say like
32:30
So I get it. You have to see yourself back, but
32:33
I am telling you that you look fine Like
32:35
so so actually stop. Yep, and I think
32:38
that we see that when we look at so many people In
32:40
the industry, we're like why is nobody telling them right
32:43
to stop right? And so I think
32:45
it is important to have people who can be honest with you and
32:47
be like yeah Let's stop. Yeah.
32:49
Yeah, I still want you to be you. Yes. Yeah.
32:51
Yes. Definitely. Yeah, very important Are
32:54
there any like upcoming either
32:56
beauty or style trends that you're really excited about?
32:59
I really I don't know if it's upcoming but
33:01
I love that we are getting back to the full face
33:04
I've seen a lot of it's like 2016 is coming back.
33:06
Yes The full face is coming back
33:08
like remember the ages when we were like I
33:11
know that my saves
33:12
were full of like
33:13
makeup. Shayla makeup by
33:16
aloe Like amrezzy
33:18
like the high glam girls. I do
33:20
love that high glam is coming back. Yes Style
33:23
wise I really love the low
33:25
rider trends. I personally don't have the
33:27
stomach that I want for it,
33:30
but I love a low rider
33:31
I love that the girls were It's
33:33
like a 90s like I think I like 90s donnell
33:36
jones videos and i'm just like the girls
33:38
are wearing low rider jeans I think that it is really
33:40
fabulous. You know what? I love i've noticed
33:42
that the girls weren't true religions again. Oh And
33:45
now I wish I would not have thrown my true religious
33:47
away in high school Just
33:50
everything old is new again, I kind of just love
33:52
that There's this
33:54
freedom
33:55
with wardrobe period. Yes
33:58
Where people are just wearing whatever
34:01
the hell they want that I'm really
34:03
enjoying right now. Yeah, I think people are
34:05
getting back to using fashion as self-expression. Yeah,
34:07
which is fun to see. Yes, and I think TikTok
34:10
and like places like that have made
34:12
it like a safe space because you will
34:14
always find somebody who has
34:16
style like you. Like if you ever
34:18
like worry like does somebody have a style like
34:21
mine? And it's like, yeah, like, yes,
34:23
you can find your people. You can find
34:25
your people. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
34:28
And it is fun to see. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
34:30
Yeah. And something too. I mean, as
34:33
somebody now in my 30s, too,
34:35
I think sometimes those of us that are a little
34:37
bit older feel a lot of pressure to like do
34:39
what the younger people are doing. I want to
34:42
encourage us to not
34:43
like, yeah, it's okay to not do. If
34:46
you're a millennial, you don't need to cosplay
34:48
a Gen Z. No, no, we can
34:50
update. We don't need to be doing the
34:53
same thing as we were doing in 2015. But
34:55
I don't think we should be. Yeah, no.
34:57
And I think it's been there. There is this thing
35:00
towards like aging gracefully. Yes.
35:02
That is happening. Like we look at the
35:04
the supermodels documentary that just came
35:07
out on Apple TV and like all of
35:09
these things. And it's like there is,
35:11
which is why it's so crazy because it's like we are now the age
35:15
where the girls on Twitter. I laugh all the time.
35:17
We're like when the girls are arguing on Twitter, we're
35:19
the old bitches. I know.
35:21
And I'm like, yes,
35:23
but you know what? The reason
35:25
that now and I used to be that you know, when you're young,
35:27
you're like, she's old. She's just all these things.
35:29
She should be focused on this. She should be focused on
35:31
finding a husband, having kids. And
35:34
now that I'm completely out of that space,
35:36
I realize that there is such beauty
35:39
and privilege
35:42
in growing old and living 100%
35:44
and growth and knowledge. It's
35:47
like the Blake that was calling
35:49
the girls old bitches, silly.
35:52
Like I'm just like, there was so much more to
35:54
learn. Right. That she hadn't learned. Yeah. There
35:56
was so much more to dive
35:59
into. And now that I'm in my, it's so
36:01
crazy now because it's like now that I'm in my late
36:03
20s, I cannot wait to get to the 30s. I've,
36:06
all the women that I talk to are like the
36:08
30s are beautiful. And then it's like, I talk to women,
36:10
they're like, no, the 40s. And then I was recently
36:12
at Essence Fest and I was talking to Tisha Campbell Martin
36:15
and she was like, no, no, no, but 50. And
36:17
so it's like, there is such
36:19
beauty in value.
36:23
I look back at silly Blake
36:25
and I'm like, you weren't doing life right, sis. There
36:28
was so much more to see. It's all part of the learning. It's
36:30
all part of the learning thing. And so
36:32
it is like
36:34
aging
36:35
and girl, Blake don't always love a nip and tuck.
36:38
I want to be abundantly pleased. So I might
36:40
be 60 on TikTok getting a facelift. It might be
36:42
come with me to get a facelift, but that is my
36:44
decision. Nothing wrong with that. And
36:47
it won't be, it's all about your reasoning.
36:49
Absolutely. Like it won't be to
36:52
fight time.
36:53
I will be the
36:56
fine 60 year old with a facelift. Yeah, absolutely.
36:59
And I will embrace it. Yeah. Hopefully it's 60,
37:01
I don't need a face. Hopefully I never need a facelift.
37:03
But if I want a facelift,
37:05
then cut me here and yank it
37:07
back. So yes,
37:09
absolutely. And I
37:11
think as I'm getting older, I'm appreciating
37:13
how much more there is to learn. Cause I think when
37:15
you're young, when you're in your like early to mid twenties
37:18
and you're like, okay, I'm grown now. I know everything.
37:20
The older you get, the more you realize how
37:22
much you don't know. And you kind of embrace that.
37:25
This pattern returns beating my ass. It
37:28
has been the most trying
37:30
time of my life, but it is so
37:32
crazy because it's like
37:33
you're in this
37:34
place. Number one, nobody
37:36
prepares you for how rough the Saturn return actually
37:39
is. But it's so crazy
37:41
cause it's like it is so trying and so hard,
37:43
but you are learning so much at such a rapid
37:46
speed
37:48
that you see the value in it. But I
37:51
am ready to get out of it. But I'm just like,
37:53
I don't really want to learn anything else. But
37:56
I just am learning so much. And
37:58
it's like things that I would have. Like I am a completely
38:01
different person than who I was at 25. Yep.
38:04
Like not even remotely similar. It is unreal
38:07
the change that somebody, if
38:09
somebody would have told me in three and a half years that I would, I
38:11
am, I don't even recognize 25 year old
38:14
Blake anymore. And so it is,
38:16
but there's such beauty in that. Especially
38:18
when you feel like I've been in this really
38:20
introspective place cause the center return will
38:23
force you into it. It does. And
38:25
it's like, I
38:27
think you have to experience these
38:30
things to
38:32
become who you,
38:32
who I actually want to become. Absolutely.
38:35
You realize how important all of the stress
38:38
and the struggles are
38:39
to getting you to where you want to be. Exactly. The
38:42
best way that I can describe the Saturn Return is it's
38:44
this series of events being like, are you sure
38:46
you want what you think you want? Girl. And it
38:49
will continuously test you and push
38:51
you. Yes. How bad do you want it? Right.
38:54
And then the delusion comes in. It does. It
38:56
keeps you going. I think delusion is pushing you. Or she's like,
38:58
this is teaching me. I'm
39:00
like, that's okay. We're going to keep going. And like,
39:03
okay. Yeah. Yeah. But
39:05
I want it. But it's beautiful on the other side. Is
39:07
it? Yes.
39:09
Okay. Yes.
39:11
When did yours end? I'm a Saturn and Capricorn
39:13
baby. So I think like at the beginning of 2020 or
39:16
the end of 2019 was when I got, but
39:18
when I entered my Saturn, people weren't talking about
39:20
Saturn Returns back when I. You
39:23
entered your Saturn Return. Right. In 2018. Okay.
39:26
I think it was when I was that age. So yours was about two
39:28
years. I was already getting my butt wet by Saturn. I
39:30
didn't know what was happening because nobody talked
39:32
about it back then. And then my friend was like, oh,
39:34
I think you're going through a Saturn Return. I'm like, what is that?
39:37
I'm halfway through it. The Saturn is returning. So
39:39
I'm glad at least now you all know. So yours was about two years.
39:42
It was about two and a half years. Yeah.
39:43
But you get through it and it gets better. So I get about
39:46
a year left. All right. It'll
39:48
get better. Let's regroup in a year and a half and see what's going on.
39:50
I'm excited to get an update. Yeah. Because
39:52
it's how you're feeling. It's whooping. It is.
39:55
The Saturn is returning. Yeah. Yeah.
39:58
So I also want to talk to you. a little bit about
40:00
self care, how you're doing because for those
40:02
of us who follow you, like you say
40:05
book and busy. I'm like, Blake
40:07
is doing like five events a day. How
40:09
is she doing this? You have also
40:11
at times mentioned that you have experienced some anxiety.
40:14
So how are you feeling?
40:16
What's what's helping you kind of navigate
40:19
that right now? So I think that this was the
40:21
first year that the
40:23
anxiety had become almost debilitating.
40:27
So this year, what am I doing? I mean, I got a psychiatrist.
40:31
I've tried the med, we're trying
40:33
the medication thing it is.
40:36
But that in itself is stressful. Anybody
40:38
who has experienced getting on SSRI
40:41
figuring out that cocktail sometimes it's like I don't want to
40:43
do this. Because it it like
40:45
for me the issue has been it's impeded sleep.
40:48
And I'm a grownie. The way that I go. It's
40:51
like I have done a lot of like, I'm just not going to take
40:53
it. Yeah. So what I have done, but I
40:55
knew that I couldn't do nothing. Yeah. So
40:57
I now and I talked about this on Alexis's
41:00
thing,
41:01
worked out a lot. Yeah, I've worked out I
41:03
work out a lot. Now I'm
41:06
I have a really rigid supplements
41:08
routine. Like I take probably
41:10
no BS, maybe like 30 supplements
41:13
throughout the day. Some of the main ones
41:15
that are most so the ones that had the one that has been transformative
41:18
for me is lemon balm, which people
41:20
have which funny enough people talked about on TikTok,
41:23
I discovered on TikTok in psychiatrists,
41:26
those that take holistic approaches have all the same
41:28
thing. Yeah, lemon balm really is as great
41:30
as it says, lemon balm, magnesium,
41:33
ashwagandha, even
41:36
though I feel like the lemon balm and magnesium has been
41:39
the most transformative. I've leaned
41:41
into the THC
41:41
for those
41:43
that want to indulge in that. And
41:45
I stopped drinking this year.
41:47
But I leaned into THC because I joke all the time. I'm
41:49
like, I can't be raw dog in this better return.
41:52
Like something I guess something has to do.
41:54
Yeah, but I stopped drinking, which I think has actually
41:57
been the most
41:59
transformative because
41:59
to what you guys will always see on my
42:02
TikToks. And before, everybody would be like,
42:04
how do you drink and eat this
42:06
much? And the reality was, well, that
42:08
takes, it takes its toll. Like, yeah, it was
42:10
great for TikTok to see. The beautiful
42:13
thing is that New York is a heavy mocktail city.
42:15
It is. So you can go anywhere. And it's
42:17
like now when y'all see me doing toast on
42:19
social media, it's like, no, that's like, it's a mocktail.
42:22
The not drinking has been really
42:24
transformative. I do a lot of deep
42:26
breathing now. I have to, my therapist
42:29
taught me that. But it has been
42:31
a, I didn't think that my anxiety
42:33
would get to this point. But it, and
42:35
it came out of nowhere. And I think that it was,
42:39
when I've talked through it with my therapist, I think that it was the
42:41
massive shift. It went from having the
42:43
full time. I think the pivot, like I genuinely
42:45
do think that the pivot contributed a lot.
42:48
And it started with, and I just started having frequent
42:50
panic attacks. And it was like,
42:53
something is off. But I think
42:55
that I am finally, I will say that I think
42:57
that I am finally at the place where
43:00
I have, I've mitigated the panic
43:02
attacks. And the thing is you never, you
43:04
don't heal from anxiety. Right. You
43:06
just learn how to manage it. And I've
43:09
always been an anxious person. I think not
43:12
screwed illusion in order for somebody to go,
43:14
go, go the way that I do. Yeah. There's
43:16
a, there is a, a layer
43:18
of anxiety to that. You know what
43:21
I'm saying? Like, and I think that I never thought
43:23
about it like that in order for somebody to go at the pace that
43:25
I do. There usually
43:27
is an anxiety
43:30
piece. It's like the tweet that said, like, the
43:32
more I healed, the less ambitious
43:34
I became. I love. Yes. And I think
43:36
that I am in peak ambition, but when that
43:38
comes a lot of anxiety, and
43:41
I still am right. Like I'm just going
43:43
to be an anxious person. I have been since I was
43:45
a child. And so I know that, but I
43:47
have mitigated it to where it's
43:50
not derailing me. Yeah. But you just have
43:53
to, you know, I was thinking about it, the
43:55
title of your podcast, because I was like, balanced
43:58
black girls. Like I'm totally not a balanced.
43:59
black girl. But I think that this
44:02
year has taught me how to properly
44:04
manage the imbalances of life. Yes,
44:07
exactly. And so, yeah, so I think
44:09
that this I've only managed it this year, because
44:11
this year has been whooping my hands.
44:14
And so you have to figure out life is never
44:17
my friend sent me this tweet that was like,
44:20
why are the 30s so great? And somebody was like, I
44:22
think that the 30s, why people say the 30s
44:24
is so great, is because you come to
44:26
a point of acceptance that life
44:28
is not linear enough to ever have it all together.
44:30
Yes, exactly. And so I think
44:33
that I am, while I'm having hit the 30s yet,
44:35
I think that I am in that season of understanding,
44:38
there will always be points in my life where
44:40
one thing requires more attention than the other. Yep.
44:43
And I'm in this season where my mental health is
44:45
requiring more attention than anything
44:47
else in my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well,
44:49
thank you so much for just sharing so vulnerably.
44:51
Of course, the girls are friends. Yeah.
44:54
I'm like, I'm like, and that's the thing is I think
44:56
people don't like, like,
44:58
now people talk about it a lot,
45:00
but there is a mental health crisis in this country. Absolutely.
45:02
In this world. Yes. But especially this country
45:04
that is happening. Yes. And
45:07
those of us who make it look good,
45:09
I think don't talk enough about
45:11
like, me and so many of my friends
45:13
who make this thing look good, or like, this
45:16
is the hardest, most trying period
45:18
of my life, and I can't figure out the why. Yeah. And
45:21
I am not exempt from that. But
45:24
I just I just keep going. Yeah. So
45:26
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it sounds like
45:28
you're in a season of like,
45:30
getting your toolbox together, figuring out what tools
45:33
are helping you. Yep. While you
45:35
navigate these feelings and all these changes. And when
45:37
to deploy them. Yep. Yeah, I
45:40
am. I'm just I'm in the getting I'm literally
45:42
trying to get a really good toolbox
45:45
together. But I've also like I said, it's like in the
45:47
learning the things. Yeah. I
45:49
can't help but to think when it's think
45:51
of the greater purpose, I can't help but to think that all
45:54
of this is happening, because
45:56
something even bigger is coming, and I have to be
45:58
able in the position. To do
46:00
it and accept it and if I don't have the tools
46:03
that I learned in this season Then I won't be
46:05
able to be successful in the next season. Yeah,
46:07
that might be delusion, but I think
46:09
it's true I that's how I've been thinking about
46:12
absolutely literally just like this is all preparation
46:15
for what is next. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely Even
46:17
what you were saying about alcohol. I've had very
46:19
similar sentiments I don't drink much yet
46:21
past few years because I realized that I don't
46:25
have time to be as tired as alcohol Make
46:27
no and my hangovers also work
46:29
like like it wasn't just that my hangovers
46:32
I turned 26 and then that is over
46:34
like 25 it gets a lot worse and it takes
46:36
more out of you like 36 hour hangover Yeah,
46:39
I was like I don't have time right exactly
46:41
I don't have time to wake up puffy cuz then I'm gonna be
46:43
pissed about how I look on camera I don't have I
46:45
don't have all Sunday. I don't have all Sunday
46:47
to recover. Yeah,
46:49
it's real And so I will say that
46:51
yeah, there's some like do I miss
46:53
the occasional cocktails? Sure, but the thing is I'm
46:56
also having restricted myself so terribly. Yeah,
46:58
but it's like if I want if I do want a cocktail
47:00
then it's like Okay, then have a cocktail.
47:03
The thing is because of how I feel now.
47:05
I just don't desire you need it a cocktail Yeah,
47:07
absolutely. Which I think can be an incredible tool.
47:10
Oh, yeah for Managing
47:12
anxiety. Yes And I I've also
47:15
had a lot of experiences with anxiety and I didn't realize
47:17
how much alcohol was a contributing factor when
47:19
I was younger that now I can see how it
47:22
made those situations a lot work because it helps in
47:24
the moment and Then
47:26
it's like but you then you wake up and you have
47:28
the hangover and the hangover makes you anxious Right you have
47:30
I would have like hangover anxiety I was
47:32
like what I did when I was drunk right
47:35
and like how it was received Like
47:37
this is let's just let's just
47:39
not do it. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah
47:42
Well, thank you so much for for
47:44
sharing and I'm excited to as you continue to refine
47:46
your toolbox and like lean more into Self-care
47:49
we're gonna see to see I'm thinking I'm gonna
47:51
try the clay making thing. I've recently did the potter I
47:53
thought you did that. I think we're gonna try that.
47:55
I felt so Calm.
47:58
Yeah now my nails I got my nails done
48:00
yesterday and my nail girl was like you can't be doing
48:02
that a lot. No, it's like Okay,
48:05
maybe like at the end of manicure. Yes, so
48:07
we're gonna try. Yeah. Yes. I really enjoyed
48:09
that the beauty of hobbies
48:11
That yes, and I realized
48:13
this year. I don't have hobby
48:16
Work was my hobby. Yeah or Happy
48:19
hour and eating eating is still a hobby
48:22
But
48:22
it's like that's not like a
48:24
I was like Blake you need tangible hobby. Yeah Yeah,
48:27
and I realized this year that I didn't have tangible
48:29
hobbies. So we are currently on
48:30
a hunt. Yeah find our hobby Yeah
48:33
issues. I keep wanting hobbies
48:35
that the nails impede. That's hard
48:40
Like at the beginning of the year I was like I want to learn how to play
48:42
the piano people nails were like that can
48:44
kind of be trying
48:46
Now the pottery. Mmm. We'll
48:48
see. Yeah, we'll see how we'll have to find
48:50
you Yes, I'm gonna do I'm gonna find
48:52
a hobby. Yeah anybody has suggestions. Yeah,
48:55
I love that for you Maybe I mean, do you like any kind
48:57
of like sports or like rec things
48:59
that you would want to play? Okay We'll find you some
49:01
other not really the athletic girl. That's okay,
49:03
but I like Pilates amazing
49:06
I like Pilates, but I also and again,
49:08
it's like okay. So but is that a hobby?
49:11
You know, yeah, not necessarily like
49:13
it needs to be something to be
49:15
Transparent I do Pilates so that I can look good.
49:18
I feel like hobbies aren't supposed
49:20
to have pure enjoyment pure
49:22
enjoyment. Yes Like no
49:25
nothing at the end that you are like
49:27
this. Yeah, no end result. No end result, right?
49:29
So we'll see what what that hobby is gonna
49:32
be. Yeah. Yeah, we can explore. Yes What's
49:34
so like yeah, but water is a good one. It's
49:36
so fun and the space is beautiful and
49:39
it cultivates relaxation So we'll see definitely.
49:42
Yeah So one last
49:44
thing before we before we wrap up your
49:46
bio says I live a colorful life I
49:49
do What does having a colorful
49:51
life mean to you? My life
49:53
is the people around me are colorful
49:56
and fun I have
49:57
a life that is full of a lot of love
50:00
from friends
50:02
who I call my chosen family to my
50:04
family, like I rave about my family all
50:06
the time. I just, I
50:09
think I had been very, I've
50:11
been very blessed. I have
50:13
done
50:14
things that
50:16
many people can only dream of. I
50:19
have had experiences, I have met people,
50:23
I have, even the lows are colorful.
50:25
Like I even feel like the things that have
50:28
hurt me or scared me
50:30
or have been so
50:33
colorful. And I think
50:35
that that is, I think too, what
50:37
keeps me going is it's like the
50:40
beauty of how
50:43
great things have been in totality. And
50:45
the score, it actually came from this, I
50:48
had never thought of it as colorful until this one
50:50
woman on TikTok comment. It was like, you live
50:52
such a colorful life.
50:55
And I think what makes it even more
50:57
rewarding is that like, nothing that I post
51:00
is not what's actually happening. And
51:02
it's like, I laugh a lot. I cry a
51:04
lot. I feel
51:06
a lot. I experience
51:09
a lot,
51:10
but I look forward to a lot.
51:11
And I think that there
51:14
is,
51:14
even when times get hard and things
51:16
like that, I think the reason that
51:18
I'm able to see past
51:21
my situation
51:23
is
51:24
because I'm like, it has been this colorful.
51:27
You can't imagine that it's gonna get less
51:29
colorful. And so I
51:32
do, I love that. Like even this is colorful.
51:34
Like getting asked to do things like this, it's like,
51:37
I live a really
51:38
great life. Like I'm doing this on a Friday,
51:41
then I'm gonna go home and take a nap
51:43
and I'm gonna party tonight. But
51:45
I think so many of us live colorful
51:48
lives. We just have to see it as that. Absolutely,
51:50
that perspective. That perspective that it is colorful.
51:53
Even when it's not about the lows being
51:55
colorful. The lows are colorful too. Like
51:57
I'm like, I laugh at it. Like I can
51:59
laugh. at the things that have been
52:01
really hard.
52:03
So yeah. We all
52:05
can live colorful lives. Absolutely. It's
52:08
just, it is all about perspective. Definitely.
52:11
I love that. Thank you. Blake, thank you
52:13
so much for joining me here. Thank you. This was so
52:15
colorful. It was colorful. It was
52:18
so colorful. But I love your honesty, your vulnerability.
52:20
Thank you. I really appreciate it. I try.
52:23
Yes. I try. On
52:25
the TikkiTok.
52:26
Blake Newby. Yes. Underscore.
52:29
My Instagram is Blake Lauren, Blake
52:31
L-A-W-R-E-N. The reason
52:33
they are different is because I was one of those people that said I was
52:35
never gonna make a TikTok in my life. So
52:38
I picked the first username that I could pick, Jess.
52:40
And now I'm making TikTok. I'm now
52:43
hosting the, I'm hosting the women's
52:45
stage at Afro Tech in November. I
52:48
am going to be on the tour
52:50
with AT&T for their HBCU makers,
52:54
HBCU Rising Future Makers. So you
52:56
guys can catch me at TSU's homecoming. And
52:58
hopefully I will be on your TV, on a
53:01
major network or streaming service
53:03
very soon. Hopefully you'll see me on Peacock
53:06
or HBO Max or Netflix or
53:08
Hulu, whoever the hell wants to hire
53:10
me. Yes. So
53:12
yes. Yes. Yes, to it all. Thank
53:15
you so much. We will link your contact info and upcoming
53:17
events and show notes so that everybody can find
53:19
you. Thank you so much for being here.
53:21
Thank you for having me. Thank you all for tuning
53:24
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53:26
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53:28
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