Part 2 of my conversation with music theatre/cabaret star and creator of Jan van de Stool (as seen on Australia's Got Talent - ROBBED! SHE WAS ROBBED!). Originally recorded in January 2016, we talk about people who call people "toxic", forgiveness, depression and anxiety in the arts, what shits us (oh all right, what shits ME) about music theatre, why the hell cabaret is so dominantly white in Australia (apart from Mama Alto, and this was pre-Hot Brown Honey, btw), the lack of casting diversity not just in cultural background, but also in gender, age and body shape, how cabaret is great because it really IS what you bring to it, and that it's OK to have a fight with your friends. If your life isn't sorted out by the end of this one, we're out of ideas. Because Queenie has seriously read every self-help book there is. All of them.

Hey - remember: Barbra Streisand can never be as good at being you as YOU can.

P.S. I do talk a fair bit in this one. We both do. It's a conversation. If you were expecting an interview, I am sorry, this isn't an interview. We're drinking tea in a lovely sunny house philosophising about arts and life. You know - living.