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we've been reading and thinking.

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And we had will,

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I've been reading he's been thinking

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she's been reading, which

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makes you think I'm a huge Dan

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Carlin fan, if you don't know

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who he is he does the the best

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history podcast that has ever

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been on hardcore history.

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There's not even it's this is

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not even up for debate. And he

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is a he's a talent. He's not a

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historian, but he's a person who

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is interested in history. And he

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is a lot better historian than

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95% of the historians, and

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certainly a lot better at

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communicating. But anyway,

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getting back to Dan, the book

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she's reading is the end is

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always near. And it's about

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TEOTWAWKI in its various forms

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throughout history, and in the

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world as they do it

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relatively frequent and

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widespread events, as it turns

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out, because let's face it, most

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of the major civilizations that

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have ever existed on this

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planet, and an even higher

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proportion of the little ones

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are gone now. Something happened

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to them.

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I want to I want to

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clarify what I mean by we don't

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know where this conversation we really don't we were just talking through some of the

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stuff that she's learned in the

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bucket is some of the stuff that

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we've we've seen elsewhere. And

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we're talking through other

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things that we know, and we're

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trying to, you know, kind of

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compare that to where we're at.

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And it's just interesting to

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see, you know, the where how the

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world ended for those people in

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the past? And how does that give

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us indications of the type of

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things that we should look out

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for. So, without further ado,

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one of the big takeaways

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I got from the book is that

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there are a large number of

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different ways that can cause

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complete societal disruption.

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And despite our hubris on the

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point, we are still susceptible

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to a large selection of those,

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and then

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some that are certainly

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possible for us that would not

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have applied to them, for

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example, of

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global thermonuclear war. What

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exactly global

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thermonuclear war or something a

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little less explosive, perhaps,

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because it was a lot less

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nuclear blasting, but

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electromechanical pulses, or

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natural electronic electronics,

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disruptions from sun flares and

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stuff like that. A big solar

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storm 300 years ago, nobody

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would care.

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They actually had a very

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big one early in the electronic

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age. The Carrington event. Yeah,

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the Carrington event so serious

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that it fried what telegraph

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equipment there was, it caused

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spontaneous transmissions along

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the wires, it started explosions

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and fires of telegraph

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equipment, because the wires

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picked up so much electrical

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activity from the magnetic

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currents that were washing over

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the planet from the solar storm,

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there were places where

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they knew something was wrong,

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so they knew to unhook the

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batteries because the batteries

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are expensive. And at that time,

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they were really expensive so

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that if anything was going wrong, they would unhook the batteries, and they were still

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able to communicate with each

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other over the teletype with no

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batteries attached because the

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Carrington solar flare was

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actually powering the system.

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The magnetic fields

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produced are so strong, they

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were inducing current along the

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wires enough to send perfectly

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comprehensible signals.

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Yeah, so if you if that

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sort of thing if she we actually

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have an article on eBay about

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it, but you could look it up

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online in many different places.

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Fascinating. Fascinating. You

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have a very, very, very early

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into the age of men kinds of

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electrical usage.

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Widespread telegraph.

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Yeah. So So if that same event

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happened right now, we would be

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stuffed and there would be

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nothing we can do to stop it. Right. Whereas

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if it happened, like say,

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for example, when the

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Romans 200 years before

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that, yeah, they noticed some

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really neat Aurora Borealis, and

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that's about size of it. It

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would be poor. People might be

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getting shocks from static

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electrical shocks from things

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more often, but that's hardly a

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life threatening event. So yeah,

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it's it's a different kind of

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thing. Also, the pandemic thing,

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as we talk about this, it's

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2020. And we're in the middle of

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a pandemic, that is Once been

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very disturbing economically,

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and not nearly as horrible as

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such things can be medically,

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right now, it's bad. Don't get me wrong. I mean, I've had several personal friends who

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have died from the thing, having

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said that, having several

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personal friends who have died

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thing isn't like losing half the

5:16

population to the thing. And

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that's not an exaggeration,

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that's happened many times more

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than half of the population,

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there have certainly been

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lots of civilizations where a

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pandemic came through and killed

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90%. So right. And there is no

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real reason to believe we could

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necessarily stop all of those

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things now. I'm sure given time,

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medical treatments get better

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and fatality rates go down and

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all that, right, but you're not

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always given time.

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And frankly, I have been,

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I found it eye opening in the

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fact that what a large

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percentage of the population in

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a more deadly pandemic would

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just die because they refuse to

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get past their normalcy bias.

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Yeah, that's just plain and

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simple. They'd rather die than

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to put a mask on

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informational.

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Now I understand this

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particular pandemic is not as

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dangerous as you can if you die,

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it's not the pneumonic play.

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It's not some of these other

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it's not the smallpox in its

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original form. many generations

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of smallpox survivors in us

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right now. But it's not a

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smallpox on a virgin field type

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dangerous,

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we just lost 99 or 100%

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fatalities in some isolated

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communities when they got it,

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right. For the fun,

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it's not that dangerous.

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But if this shows why a lot of

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people will lie,

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how many people would you

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get infected with something that

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was a lot more fatal before they

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actually would start admitting

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that it was worth paying

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attention to.

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Now I'm gonna I'm gonna

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puff our chests a little bit

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here. Because we've said all

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along, when we since the day we

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started this project, that our

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personal belief is the number

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one threat that we have, and

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it's not even close in our world

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is pandemic

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know from for, for me,

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that might be a personal bias

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kind of thing. Because I'm in

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the field where I, I teach

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pathophysiology, I pay a lot of

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attention to pandemics and

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Epidemiology and, and things

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like that. So it might be a case

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of what you know, is what you

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know the risks of,

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but if you look back

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through history, that's one of

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the really, really top ones,

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okay, at some of the other stuff

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that you go back through history

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that they died from, we're

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probably not going to die from

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because we're so spread out, for

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example, a large percentage of

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the people who belong to a whole

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subculture of society died when

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Vesuvius erupted and Pompei

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wiped him out, it wiped out a

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whole subculture of that

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society, because they were all

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there. They were all there. They

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were all in that one place. Now,

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we're not all in that one place.

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Like for example, if, if a a

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supervolcano erupts in

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Yellowstone, for example, yeah,

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it's gonna play heck for North

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America. And yes, it will damage

8:05

the the color ecology of the

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entire world. But there

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certainly would not be a tr

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Waukee globally from Yellowstone

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going up.

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Maybe the food loss of

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food production might do it. But

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that would be a couple years down the road.

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And we're very

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resourceful people. Yeah, people

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are.

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That's when people start

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getting really pinched, they

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tend to start wars with their

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neighbors to distract their

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populace from their internal

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lows. So that's how we

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get rid of a lot of their

8:35

neighbors. Yeah.

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Hey, look at all that other land. We could have to grow stuff on. And that'd be

8:40

cool. We need it. Yeah. So the

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risks are still there. For sure.

8:44

That wall with Mexico? So the

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question is, how much time and

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effort do you spend today,

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investing in preparing for

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things that are absolutely going

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to happen to some humans at some

8:57

time and be very bad for some

9:02

humans at some time, but have a

9:02

relatively low probability of

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happening to you in your

9:05

lifetime? That's one of the key

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questions preppers really have

9:09

to address because you cannot

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effectively prepare for all of

9:13

these things and still leave

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live a decent life. It's

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questionable. Yeah, I'll say you

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cannot be prepared for some of these events.

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My thesis is this. When

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I'm doing perhaps, I realized

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there are some things there's no

9:26

point in prepping for. There's

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no point in prepping for an

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asteroid hitting the earth,

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because there's nothing that can

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be done. That can extra can of

9:38

soup is not going to help if an

9:38

asteroid that's an Extinction

9:43

Level Event hits the earth, it's

9:43

just not. So there's no point in

9:47

even considering that massive

9:47

sunflower, that fries the half

9:51

of the planet that happens to be

9:51

facing the sun. You're either on

9:55

it or you're not. And that's you

9:55

know, there's no point in trying

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to prep for that.

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On The Planet

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of the planet, so not not

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really any point. But there's a

10:06

lot of things where you can prep

10:06

for not just one problem. But

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the single prep helps you in 15

10:12

or 20 different situations. And

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those are good things to concentrate on. Because there's always going to be something,

10:19

there's always going to be a

10:22

tornado, there's always going to

10:22

be an earthquake, there's always

10:24

going to be that freakish ice

10:24

storm, there's always going to

10:27

be the electrical grid goes down

10:27

for three weeks, there's always

10:31

going to be you know, something

10:31

is going to happen in your

10:34

lifetime. There's always going

10:34

to be war and shortages from a

10:37

war, there's going to be famine,

10:37

there's going to be plague in

10:41

every lifetime. There's

10:41

something I mean, the Mongols

10:45

could come Have you heard the

10:45

Bongo music lately? They may

10:47

come who ate you? Yeah. The who

10:47

strongly recommended. Although

10:52

they're more To be fair, they're

10:52

being more defensive in

10:55

Yeah, I wouldn't mess

10:55

with them. Their their groove is

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don't mess with us sons of Ginga.

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Yeah, really, actually

11:02

ours. So anyway, long story

11:06

short, you know, there's perhaps

11:06

a good way to look at it as

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we've driven into an area from

11:11

no snow into snow covering the

11:15

ground. Yeah. I didn't know it

11:15

did that up here. I had no,

11:19

neither roads are still dry. So

11:19

anyway, I'm thinking maybe the

11:23

way to look at it is what can we

11:23

do that that helps out in all

11:28

prepping situations that are

11:28

reasonable to prep for?

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Yeah, because some of

11:30

these are that something which

11:34

requires, or at least makes

11:34

these preps helpful is likely to

11:38

happen in our lifetimes. Any

11:38

particular one of them is a low

11:42

probability event. But low

11:42

probability events sum up in

11:45

some up in some up and you got

11:45

enough different opportunities

11:48

for something to happen.

11:48

ventually becomes fairly likely

11:51

that something's going to happen

11:51

in your future. So that changes

11:55

the equation as long as you are

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choosing preps that have a wide

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utility.

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Another thing to consider

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is, you know, everybody's always

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watching the news to see what's

12:04

going to happen next, and see if

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they can figure out what the

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next big thing is going to be is

12:11

going to be economic collapse is

12:11

going to be you know, just name

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it. I mean, the thing is, I

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don't see anybody considering

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and I think this is a valid

12:18

consideration, has the event

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that will topple our society

12:23

already happened. And we're just

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living in the death throes of

12:29

the situation. This is something

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Dan Carlin brings up in many of

12:33

his things. And it's an

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interesting thing to think

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about, certainly, because

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if you were in one of the

12:39

Roman cities, maybe around 1000,

12:45

Common Era, during what we call

12:45

the fall of the Roman Empire,

12:49

what would you have noticed? If

12:49

you were somewhere out near the

12:52

periphery of the Roman Empire

12:52

when it started contracting, and

12:56

you're living out there? How

12:56

much does your life change? Does

12:59

it look like the fall of the

12:59

Roman Empire? Or does it just

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like you're having a string of

13:03

bad years? Does it look like

13:08

things are unsettled and may

13:08

change but you'll probably be

13:12

able to scrape through for the

13:12

end of your foreseeable future

13:16

without dramatic disruption.

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That is kind of where we're

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coming from with the has the

13:20

event already happened? Now,

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there was in recent

13:23

history, I mean, if I were to go

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back in last 120 years, when I

13:27

was 100 years, when I say recent

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history, that's reason, there

13:32

was one cataclysmic event that

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has happened, it's probably one

13:38

that 95% or more of the

13:42

population wouldn't recognize

13:42

for what it is. There was a sea

13:47

change event, there was a

13:47

millennial event that happened

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from 1914 to 1980. And that was

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the First World War. And it I

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don't think people understand

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they want to they want to watch

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the news today to understand

14:02

what's going on. But I don't

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think as as a person who's

14:07

interested in history, and a

14:10

person who's interested in and

14:10

what the world's what's going on

14:14

the world today. I don't think

14:14

you can actually make any

14:17

understanding of the news today,

14:17

without fully understanding the

14:23

First World War and the peace,

14:23

quote unquote, peace made right

14:28

after the First World War, that

14:28

transitioned the world

14:33

completely, from an older way to

14:33

a newer way, and we are still

14:39

living in the ripples through

14:39

time of that war. And it's a big

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deal to

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clarify just a little

14:46

bit. Before the First World War

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it the dominant story on the

14:50

scene was a relatively small

14:55

number of extremely large and

14:55

powerful colonial empires.

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monarchies conflicting with each

15:00

other traditional monarchies in

15:03

many cases or constitutional

15:03

monarchies, some internal

15:07

conflict in them, obviously, but

15:07

mostly they were playing semi

15:12

eternal chess games with each

15:12

other. How many times have the

15:15

French and the English gone to

15:15

war here or there over the

15:20

preceding several 100 years,

15:22

right? And you I'd say

15:22

that the French started that

15:25

started this change with the

15:25

French Revolution. Actually, you

15:29

might say, the strange truly

15:29

started with the American

15:32

Revolution, which was, excuse me

15:32

shortly, followed by the French

15:35

Revolution, but the turmoil that

15:35

was causing event to the First

15:40

World War, not the first world

15:40

war zone. So what happened

15:43

during the First World War is

15:43

important to understand. Because

15:48

all of the great powers of the

15:48

world, a United States was not a

15:53

great power of the world before

15:53

this was part of the change all

15:57

of the great

15:57

collaborationist, I'm

15:57

sorry, we were isolationists.

16:00

Yeah, all of the great

16:00

powers of the world bled

16:04

themselves out, they basically

16:04

committed mass murder of every

16:12

one of these great empires, they

16:12

just cloned

16:16

and treasure sells

16:17

blood and treasure.

16:19

And then they couldn't hold their empire, they

16:20

broke themselves,

16:22

the parts of their empire

16:22

that didn't want to be a part of

16:25

the Empire could then break free

16:25

afterward. And all the Empires

16:29

fragmented into a bunch of

16:29

individual states. And there

16:32

were all kinds of ideas on who

16:32

should be in charge of any

16:36

particular place, and how they should do it.

16:38

So here's what that that

16:38

all gave us. That war gave us

16:42

the redistribution of the

16:42

Empires without the power to

16:46

hold them. In Africa, it gave us

16:46

the mess we have in the Middle

16:52

East. And it gave us the

16:52

divisions random white guy,

16:58

Europeans, and I'm not being

16:58

racist. Here, I'm just a white

17:00

guy, Europeans, drawing lines on

17:00

a map, regardless of tribal and

17:05

social previous claims to the

17:05

area and handing them out to

17:11

their friends in who helped out

17:11

during World War One. And this

17:17

was in an area that all of this

17:17

that was becoming much more

17:19

important because of oil. And

17:19

they gave the these to their

17:24

friends, because they knew oil

17:24

was going to be more important.

17:27

So they could deal and keep the

17:27

flow of oil as it became a

17:31

bigger deal in within the

17:31

Empire. So gotta keep that in

17:34

mind. That's where the Saudi

17:34

family came from. That's where

17:37

the Iraqis came from. That's

17:37

where the Iranians came from.

17:40

That's where the Jordanians came

17:40

from all of these countries were

17:44

just divided up rather randomly

17:44

in some cases. And a lot of

17:49

cases, the British Empire, bless

17:49

them had all these different

17:53

people fighting for them. And

17:53

they promised them the same

17:55

stuff. Not surprisingly, when

17:55

the war was over, these guys

17:58

showed up and say, okay, deliver

17:58

what we really can't because we

18:02

have promised the same stuff to

18:02

three different people

18:06

to help them.

18:07

Yeah. So I mean, in this

18:07

set of all these conflicts,

18:09

right, World War One gave us

18:09

communism really did it would

18:13

not have communism would not

18:13

have happened, had it not been

18:17

for the destruction, disruption

18:17

of the First World War,

18:21

communism is a major

18:21

dominating political resume.

18:24

There have always been pockets

18:24

of communism, and have been, for

18:27

the most part, harmless and

18:27

limited to those who chose to

18:30

partake in them. And that

18:30

hasn't, but that's not drama,

18:34

The Bolsheviks, with the

18:34

Bolsheviks Along came a spider.

18:38

Yeah. And they just happen to be

18:38

the best at maneuvering into a

18:44

power vacuum. And that gave us

18:44

Lenin that gave us Stalin gave

18:50

us Mao, you know, that gave us

18:53

yeah, a whole lot of messes since then.

18:56

And communism is so well,

18:56

at least the way it used to be

19:01

portrayed is so radically

19:01

different have a system that

19:05

cause strife for 100 years, and

19:05

still causing strife, all based

19:09

back to this, the death of the

19:09

Empires. So, anyway, everything

19:14

that we got going on in the

19:14

world today, China, World War

19:16

One, Russia, World War One,

19:16

Israel, World War One, Jordan,

19:20

World War One, Egypt, World War

19:20

One I can keep going on the

19:24

United States robot one because

19:24

we were the bankers, the money

19:30

that the British and the French,

19:30

and all of the winning allies

19:34

got to fight the war came from

19:34

America, which is what made

19:39

London lose the the title of the

19:39

financial capital of the world

19:45

and it became New York because

19:45

of World War One. We basically

19:49

became the true 1900s Empire

19:49

Builder in more ways than one

19:56

because they bought our stuff

19:56

with the money we loaned them.

20:00

We want on both sides of it.

20:00

Yeah. But Turning Point

20:04

didn't leave peace and

20:04

harmony in its wake. So from a

20:08

prepping point of view, Yes, you

20:08

did, watching the news to see

20:14

what's going on in the Middle

20:14

East this week is not going to

20:18

give you a very good sense for

20:18

what kind of prep you're going

20:21

to need or where the situation

20:21

is going to go. These are long

20:25

games that are playing out. And

20:25

they're long games that no one

20:29

political party or politician

20:29

making decisions is likely to

20:35

single handedly turn very far.

20:35

And it's something that people

20:40

ABS as a group, have done a

20:40

pretty terrible job of

20:43

predicting exactly where things

20:43

were going to go from there. So

20:48

why keep going with what hasn't

20:48

worked and keep watching the

20:51

news to try and figure out how

20:51

you should prep. Instead, if you

20:55

go back to core principles,

20:55

start thinking about what sorts

20:58

of things you might need and in

20:58

different circumstances, and

21:02

focusing on those instead of

21:02

what looks most pressing today,

21:06

you're probably going to end up in a better place.

21:09

I think one thing to keep

21:09

in mind on the on the newest

21:11

thing is just keep in mind that

21:11

they get paid. The people who do

21:16

the news get paid to do whatever

21:16

it takes to induce you to watch.

21:20

They're not looking out for you.

21:21

They're paid by the other

21:21

option.

21:25

That's why you have to

21:25

look out for you. We have to

21:30

look out for us, because they're

21:30

the news people, they don't

21:34

care.

21:34

They're gonna sell you the drama of the day, you're just drama of the day sells

21:36

well. Absolutely,

21:39

you're here's a kook out

21:39

there and flowerland they don't

21:41

care and care at all. You got to

21:41

look after you. And I think the

21:45

people who survived during the

21:45

fall of the Roman Empire, were

21:49

probably the people who were

21:49

best looking after themselves.

21:52

You know, I there are very few

21:52

situations that I can think of

21:56

where self reliance and the

21:56

ability to stay internal, in

22:01

your own little area, your own

22:01

little group turned out to be a

22:06

bad thing. Now, I'm sure there

22:06

are some self reliance in

22:09

Pompei. You know,

22:11

sometimes it doesn't

22:11

help. But that doesn't make it a

22:13

bad thing. No, I mean, I can't

22:13

think of one it's ever been a

22:16

bad thing and good relations

22:16

within your local community,

22:20

which we have much less of now.

22:20

Because we are reaches so much

22:23

greater it reduces the focus on

22:23

local contacts,

22:27

right. And then also,

22:27

frankly, the the news, yeah,

22:33

they're they made us apart,

22:36

dramatic thing that's

22:36

happening anywhere in the world.

22:39

And they make their money, they

22:39

make their money.

22:42

That's how they do live.

22:44

It's not like they're

22:44

getting paid to separate us per

22:47

se. But they're playing to the

22:47

prejudices of particular

22:50

subgroups, to gain popularity

22:50

and following within those

22:54

particular subgroups. And humans

22:54

being wired as they are having

22:59

multiple outlets doing that with

22:59

different subgroups tends to

23:02

divide, because you get your

23:02

echo chamber set up, and you get

23:05

your people who aren't seeing

23:05

the same basic story of events

23:10

that other people are seeing.

23:10

And they end up being completely

23:13

baffled as to how anybody could

23:13

possibly believe differently

23:17

than they believe. Because look

23:17

at all this information and

23:21

evidence that supports their

23:21

beliefs. Well, the other guys

23:24

aren't even seeing that they're

23:24

seeing a completely different

23:27

point of view. Some of it's just

23:27

point of view and some of its

23:31

focus, and some of it's flat out

23:31

lies, but they're never gonna

23:35

understand each other. And they

23:35

are likely to come to conflict,

23:40

because they don't have a basic

23:40

common understanding of what's

23:43

going on to even start with. And

23:43

that will happen to you if

23:46

you're not careful to avoid it.

23:46

Because the commercial interests

23:51

just happen to have it run that

23:51

way. And they don't care their

23:55

commercial interests they're

23:55

doing what commercial interests

23:57

do, and their power block

23:57

interests doing what power block

24:00

interests do. They're not

24:00

looking out for the big picture.

24:03

They're not looking out for you.

24:03

Even if they're your group.

24:06

They're not looking out for you.

24:06

They're looking out for

24:08

themselves as your darling

24:08

leaders.

24:11

We have travelled to a

24:11

snowy Wonderland. Yeah. Wow. I

24:16

mean, there's several inches

24:16

here. Anyway, just in the amount

24:18

of time that we were talking and

24:18

we're just driving north.

24:22

We went from three

24:22

snowflakes to about three

24:24

inches.

24:25

Yeah.

24:27

unexpected. Ah. So I'm

24:27

about done with this podcast.

24:35

That's where lots of snow

24:37

but I think we actually

24:37

did come to a point where we did

24:39

yeah, usually among the wander

24:39

in that it's difficult to

24:44

predict what it's going to be,

24:44

but it's going to be something

24:48

so you think about what your own

24:48

needs are likely to be. And try

24:52

and prevent yourself from being

24:52

led around by others who really

24:56

don't have your personal best

24:56

interest at heart. Even if they

25:00

are supporting other things that

25:00

would that you agree with, that

25:04

doesn't mean they have your long

25:04

term best interests at heart. So

25:08

you take care of you and yours,

25:08

and recognize that other people

25:12

may have good reasons for not

25:12

agreeing with you go from there.

25:16

And I guess my my other

25:16

takeaway is when you, when

25:20

you're when you're external,

25:20

when you're listening to what

25:23

other people are saying,

25:23

watching the news, whatever, I

25:26

think it's important to realize

25:26

that not only are is everybody

25:31

agenda based, because everybody

25:31

is agenda base, we've all got an

25:33

agenda, even we have an agenda.

25:35

We do things for reasons, everybody,

25:37

absolutely. But we at

25:37

least tell people up front what

25:40

our agenda is. And if you want

25:40

to know what that is go on our

25:42

website, it's all over the

25:42

website. Remember, that one they

25:48

have an agenda to they may not

25:48

know what the heck they're

25:50

talking about. They're just

25:50

repeating whatever it is they

25:53

think you want to hear. And

25:53

three, they may not have a true

25:57

understanding of the entire

25:57

situation, a

26:01

natural point of focus is short term.

26:03

Exactly.

26:04

So they may not even

26:04

think or think or care about

26:06

long term things. It's very

26:06

common, that's part of human

26:09

nature.

26:10

So grain of salt, and

26:10

concentrate on what matters

26:14

locally to you circle of

26:14

influence,

26:18

you're going to be living

26:18

in that local community, when

26:20

things get rough. And if it's a

26:20

widespread event, the rest of

26:23

the world is not going to care

26:23

and not going to come to help

26:26

because they'll have their own fish fry.

26:28

Yeah. And if you're in a

26:28

situation where you don't feel

26:34

comfortable with you know, how

26:34

it's good things would go down

26:38

for you in a jet walkie stuff

26:38

hits the fan type situation.

26:42

Well, you know, maybe now is the

26:42

time to start thinking about

26:45

what you're gonna do about it.

26:45

Maybe you might not want to wait

26:47

too long, that sort of thing.

26:47

Maybe Maybe it's time to make

26:51

some plans, just saying

26:53

some unpredictable point

26:53

in time it moves from being a

26:56

theoretical exercise to now's

26:56

the time,

26:59

this world will end. It

26:59

may be a long time from now.

27:02

Maybe tomorrow. We don't know,

27:02

your world will end my world,

27:06

William. It's just a matter of

27:06

Do we have to let our world in,

27:13

in a way that we could have

27:13

prevented.

27:17

Sometimes it has to end us

27:19

Yes. Doesn't have to end

27:19

us something to think about.

27:21

Okay, we're done with our thing.

27:21

So, everybody, have a great day.

27:26

And we'll catch you later. Bye

27:26

bye.