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Hello, everybody and welcome to the show that show the most important and

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critically acclaimed podcast that was recorded in our car and

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today we are not we we are Me,

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me myself and I am heading down

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the road today all by my

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lonesome spaces off there at

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work teaching them kiddos

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teaching the children. Well,

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okay, college students are not

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only children. So welcome to the

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show today getting ready, I want

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to get right to the subject,

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it's going to be about

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nutrition. And when I'm

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recording this show, at the end

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of January of 2021, there's a

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ridiculously huge ammo crunches

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there often is in America. And

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my subject today is how to deal

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with getting through ammo

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crunches, if you're on the spot

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and have been caught short. So

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that's gonna be the topic today.

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And I'm going to give you a

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little background ammo crunches

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are something that's happened

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from time to time more So

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recently, then, in way back in

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years past, because there's a

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lot more gun ownership than

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there used to be. In fact, new

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gun owners are a large part was

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driving the current ammo

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shortage. And there's also a

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change in the retail space to go

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along with that as well, which,

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on the surface doesn't

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necessarily translate to the

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ammo shortage. But it translates

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into a distribution change and a

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loss of distribution efficiency,

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what am I talking about, I'm talking about the fact that Walmart doesn't sell a lot of

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the ammunition it used to. And

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for all of its shortcomings,

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Walmart had does one thing very,

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very, very well it gets the

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distribution, right. If it gets

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something in it gets out of the

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store. And with the recent

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changes in corporate policy,

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ammunition is of many kinds is

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no longer available at Walmart.

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And up until recently, with some

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of the same problems going on,

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they've cut back even further as

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to what is available. And that

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change in the pipeline is but

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kinks everywhere. If you talk to

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or listen to people, the gun

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manufacturing or the ammunition

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manufacturing companies, they're

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making ammunition 20 473 65. And

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they're making more ammunition

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than they've ever made before.

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They're pumping it out the door.

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So where is it? Why can't people

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just go to the local gun shop

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and buy and pick up a couple

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boxes of nine millimeter?

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Well, I

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mean, the answer, that's

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pretty obvious. First of all,

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there's the hoarders, the people

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who come in and buy the limit

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every day that they can get it

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no matter the price. And dark

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people are out there like that.

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In the last big ammo crunch.

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Following Sandy Hook. Back when

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Walmart was still selling

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ammunition across the board, all

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kinds of people would come in

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and they would literally stand

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in line waiting for the ammo

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shelves to be stocked and they

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were standing in line and then

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buy them. And then they would

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take that ammo that they bought

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at Walmart at Walmart price and

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take it to the gun shows a

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double or triple or quadruple

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the prices. If you want to go to

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a gun show and pay double,

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triple quadruple the price for a

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box of ammo, you can still get

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ammunition because in a sense,

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the hoarders are still out

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there. out. This is a prepping

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podcast and so I need to express

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the difference between a prepper

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and a hoarder. a prepper is

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somebody who buys and stores

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things in a time of plenty. For

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example, if I ordered a case of

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nine millimeter white box, full

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metal jacket for plinking and I

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did it in a normal time. Okay, I

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mean it's done that many times.

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That's not hoarding. That's just

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buying a stock of ammunition to

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shoot. Were I to be doing that

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today with the idea of keeping

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that so that nobody else could

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get it or turning around and

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marking it up and selling it. I

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would be a hoarder and a gouger.

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I personally have some

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ammunition that I would actually

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sell right now because I'm I'm

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over stocking a few calibers I'm

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not ridiculous, but you know

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I've got but I can't really

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figure out a way to do it

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because I want to make sure that

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You know, that I do it in a

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responsible manner, I'm not

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going to sell it to just anybody

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because I don't know, I'm not

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I'm not a firearms dealer. I'm

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not. This is not what I do.

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Okay? And I don't want this code

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back at me, somebody shoot

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somebody with his ammo and I get

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sued for it, you know, that's

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not, you know, I'm not insured

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for that. So I'm very hesitant

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to do that sort of thing. And I

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could not in good consciousness

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sell ammunition that I bought

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for $10, a box of 50 for a nine

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millimeter. For what these

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people are charging. I went on

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to everybody's favorite gouge

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gun site. I'm not gonna mention

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the name because these guys have

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lawyers and they will sue. But

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let's just say they are claimed

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to be more inexpensive than soil

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and leave it at that. And I saw

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the price of a box of white, a

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white box. It's just range Full

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Metal Jacket, ammunition. normal

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price on that. If you go to a

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gun store, full retail 1250 for

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a box of 50 This is the cheap

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stuff. 120 bucks. Are you

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kidding me? So okay, salty. We

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all know this, we all know

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what's the problem, you're just talking to us? There's a problem. We know there's a

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problem. Give me answers. Okay,

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I'm going to give you answers.

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First of all, do not buy any of

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that stuff, don't buy any of it,

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just skip it. Do not buy range

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ammo, do not buy Full Metal

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Jacket ammo. At those prices,

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period, End of discussion, don't

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do it. There will be days in the

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future when you can pick up your

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range ammo. Alright. This may

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mean you don't get to shoot for

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a while, or you may get to

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practice dry firing or whatever.

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Because, you know, it's just the

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way it is. I would rather spend

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that money on a laser targeting

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system that you can practice

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with lasers, you know, the guns

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that simulate lasers, I'd rather

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spend that money on that and

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then have that in the practice

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with that, then spend five to

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six times what ammunition is

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actually worth to buy it for

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range, ammo, there's my caveat.

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If you need carry ammo, if you

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need personal defense ammo,

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then, I mean, if you buy a gun

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and you just literally have

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nothing to shoot in it, I can

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see getting a box of, of 50

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whatever the cheapest thing you

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could buy just to get you know,

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get excited and get broken in. I

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can see that but not man, this

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is not the time to be buying new

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stuff. If you need range ammo,

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it's just not the time to buy

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it. It's better to come up with

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a plan be better to do something

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else. And that that means like I

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say by laser stuff, dry fire

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practice, take training. Do all

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kinds of other things. Work on

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familiarizing yourself with

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accessorize ation. Look into

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calibers where the ammunition is

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available or is a lot less

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difficult to come up with. Okay,

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look 12 gauge, it's a lot easier

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to find 12 gauge right now i'm

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not saying it's everywhere you

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look. There's 12 gauge, but it's

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a lot easier to find 12 gauge

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right now, it's a lot easier to

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find even though it's not

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particularly cheap, the off

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gauge or off caliber ammo 32 ACP

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you can find some point 16.

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Again, you can find if you

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happen to have an again

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revolver, which I do. I got a

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whole case of the stuff, so I

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don't need it. But you can find

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that stuff. You can find the off

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caliber stuff if you really need

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something to practice with. And

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reloaders I'm coming back to you

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in a bit because I can hear you

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screaming out there. Reload,

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reload, reload. Yeah. Well,

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where are you getting your primers? Where are you getting your powder? Come on, reload us.

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Where are you getting them?

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Where are you getting those?

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Those largest small primers

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right now. They're not on the

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shelves of my gun shop. They're

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not on the shelf of yours

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either. So you know reloading is

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great as long as you have the

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supplies bought ahead of time.

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Okay, getting back to what to

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do. 12 gauge is barely

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available. It's also outstanding

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home defense round. It's

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fantastic home defense round. I

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was looking at another website I

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see in Steelcase risky ammo made

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in barnaul factory in what used

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to be the Soviet Union. Not

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really sure if they're in the

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Ukraine or where exactly that

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is. But it's made that's where

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it's made. normal price on it's

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five bucks a box of 20 current

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price $44 No, do not buy steel

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ammunition at $44 No, just no

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don't do it. Use an alternative.

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Okay, so personal defense ammo

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if you need it, buy it, because

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it is what it is, if you but if

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you have your ready magazines

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filled with personal defense

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ammo Personally, I have three

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reading magazines. And I have

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them filled with my favorite

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type of personal defense ammo.

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Which by the way for nine

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millimeter is gold dots, in case

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you're wondering. Although I

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also like coordinated criddle

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critical defense, I like them

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both actually, Liberty Liberty

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stuff, I kind of like it too.

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It's I often put that in my

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carry gun simply because it's so

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light, it keeps the gun away.

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Now. Personal Defense ammo, if

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you need it, you got to buy it,

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whatever it cost, but you're not

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shooting it at the range right

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now. So this is not something

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you're going to be shooting up

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anytime soon. We hope

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concentrate on the stuff you can

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get and wait for it. Things will

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become available sooner or

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later. Unless it just doesn't

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and if it just doesn't you just

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if it just doesn't. There's

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there's times when you don't you

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know you didn't get on the boat.

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You got to get on the boat. If

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you're not on the boat.

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Sometimes you miss. You snooze,

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you lose. If you were familiar

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with three vy, you can go back

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or if you're not you can go back

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and do a search on how many

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times I've been you know,

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begging people screaming people

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now is the time to buy. ammo is

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everywhere. It's dirt cheap. You

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can find sales on it by by by a

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good friend, young man I used to

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work with he's now changed jobs.

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But he's a good man, young man.

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And he kept buying these guns

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like oh yeah, I gotta get me

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this, I gotta get me that he

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bought a, he bought a 223 St. He

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bought a. m one. He bought all

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these really great guns. And I'm

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like, Man, you know, this is a

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couple years ago, like, buddy,

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you just got to stop buying

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guns, buy some ammo to put in

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those guns. I know it's not as

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sexy. I know, it's not as fun, I

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get that. But if and when there

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comes the next shortage, you

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will thank me for stopping you

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from buying a gun for six months

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or nine months and just buying

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ammo for the guns you've already

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got stock yourself up a

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reasonable amount. So you could

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shoot and ran into me in the

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grocery store the other day, he

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came right over to me says You

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were so right. You were so

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right. Everybody else was just

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flailing around. He said I got

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great deals on two or three guns

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because guy sold and they don't

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have any ammo to shoot with him.

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There you go.

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So here's what I'll sign

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up. People who are have are

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hoarding now will want to sell

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later. So as soon as the stuff

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starts easing up, they're going

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to want to get their money back

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out of this. So the prices are

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going to drop quickly. When you

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start seeing stuff back out on

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the shelf again, and you will,

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there was a huge amount of new

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gun buyers in the last six

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months. And that's that's

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backing off. Because a lot of

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the people who were worried

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about the election, bought a lot

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of guns and they need the ammo

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for it. That's where some of

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this came from. A lot of this

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came from, there are other

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reasons I won't go into. And I'm

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not 10 what, tinfoil hat guy. So

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I don't believe in conspiracy

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theories about what's going on

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with the ammo. I have a friend

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in the industry. And he told me,

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there's a man I went to school

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with the man I trust, he works

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one of the biggest companies out

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there. I can't mention the name.

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But they're big. They're one of

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the big three or four. It's

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20 473 65. And they're going

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hard at it or putting up more

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boats than they've ever pushed

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out. And those boats are going

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into boxes and those boxes are

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going to consumers, they're not

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going to the government. And

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this is a man I trust is a man I

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trust with my life. So the

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bullets are getting made sooner

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or later. And I suspect it'll be

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sooner, they're going to become

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a game vailable again, and as

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the prices drop, and as

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availability comes back towards

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normal. I don't know how many

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months it'll take. All of the

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sudden there will be a big

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access. That's exactly what

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happened after Sandy Hook.

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Finally, after all that time

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when we're 22 long rifle finally

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became available again. And then

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it was everywhere. And then you

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could buy you know, you can find

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great deals on this stuff

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because you know, they were

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still manufacturing 20 473 65

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and yet people weren't buying it

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like crazy anymore. So that's

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when I bought And that's when

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you should buy to not now, you

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got to put that off. You have to

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buy, buy what's available. I

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know this is not what you want

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to hear, I want to log into this

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thing. Oh, he's gonna find me

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some great plus, now, I would

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avoid gun shows like the plague.

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Because frankly, we have a

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plague going on. Right? Now I

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wouldn't I, you know, I have no

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interest in going to a gun show

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none. I don't want to buy a gun

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from some guy. I'm just never

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going to be in town again. When

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I got good local people. Now,

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sir, I have no interest in

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buying guns of dubious

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backgrounds. Because I just have

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no interest in that I, I don't

15:41

need that type of firearm. It

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just, I don't, I don't need that

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in my life. So we press on, we

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do what we can. I hope this

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information was at least

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confirming some of the things

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you may have been thinking.

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Hopefully, hopefully, I'm not

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the only person that thinks this

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stuff. And you can let me know

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that let me know in the

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comments, let me know in the of

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the article that I'll write to

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go along with this. Let me know

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on the telephone line, you can

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find that at our website and can

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call you can call in leave me a

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voice message. Who knows maybe

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someday I will do a listener

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comments thing. I was interested

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to know that we're in the top

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10% of all podcasts worldwide,

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which I thought was really

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strange to think that many

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people are listening to us so

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it's kind of cool. Just a couple

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people driving down the road in

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our car talking, but you know,

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whatever. Alright, hope this was

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useful to you and we'll see you later.