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Tuesday morning, April ninth, twenty twenty four. It

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is the Beating the Book Podcast, the eighty

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eighth Masters tradition, unlike

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any other from Augusta, first

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major of the year, as always Skill Alexander

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joined by a steamed panel

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of golf experts for the second

0:21

straight year. Kelly, you might have been on for

0:23

three years, but for the second straight year the

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duo here.

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That's a great question.

0:26

Yeah, we were going through like the history of Beating

0:29

the Book Masters pod.

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This this is only my second year on.

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Okay, so you and West both to

0:34

two thirds of the long shots

0:36

caring by long shots, I mean there is a podcast,

0:38

a dedicated golf podcast that Vison

0:41

has called long Shots, a colloquial

0:44

colloquially called it's called long shots. Is

0:46

That's how Matt Brown used to do the promo. Matt

0:48

Brown too much of a divad to be on the show. It's

0:50

not true. He's going to Augusta, so we give him an excuse.

0:53

But the other two members for a second straight

0:55

year, the great Wes Reynolds everybody

0:58

co host of Vison tonight doing Wes, thanks

1:00

for doing this again.

1:01

I'm well, Gil, thanks for having me and.

1:03

Congratulations on the

1:07

future Jaeger fifty

1:09

to one two weeks ago. Were you on Batilla?

1:12

I was not just for a placement market,

1:14

but he was very well tipped in the

1:16

market and was able to get at home in

1:19

that playoff. Now, now, when he heard

1:21

his shoulder though in the playoff, all

1:23

I was like.

1:24

Man, this is like very tennis. This is

1:26

exactly hard. Gil.

1:28

I was like, man, this is like Ropp and Nadal

1:30

going to the trainer and like the fourpe said

1:32

at Roland Garros or something. But nevertheless,

1:35

he got it home after he got that shoulder

1:37

taped.

1:38

What Wes is referring to. For those who don't

1:40

know, ak Shee Batilla, who won the

1:43

Valero Open this past week, had

1:45

a six shot lead going

1:47

into the back nine, and then Denny McCarthy went

1:50

ballistic, birdied ten, part

1:52

eleven and then birdied twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

1:54

fifty, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, and

1:57

it required Akha Batilla

1:59

to have a tournament tying putt

2:02

on eighteen. It looked like he was going to lose it

2:04

in regulation, if you will, he sinks

2:06

the putt and in celebration it

2:09

was It was a pretty tough putt too. It was not a short butt.

2:12

In celebration, he pumps his left

2:15

arm and Batilla what we

2:17

say, Wes, he weighs what ninety seven ninety

2:19

eight pounds roughly?

2:20

Yeah, he does this, big tall guy, big tall,

2:22

skinny guy.

2:23

It was very It was very grammatica

2:25

of uh.

2:27

Very grammatica. That's why we have Wes

2:29

on the show for reverences like that. Correct, was

2:31

that Martin? Just to get my grammatica's

2:33

correct.

2:34

I believe it was Martine Grammatica. Okay,

2:37

jumped on in the field goal celebration and

2:39

then stumbled to the ground after

2:41

that.

2:42

That's the right, one of the great moments in NFL celebration

2:44

history. So anyway, he dis he What

2:46

we learn on the playoff hole because

2:48

they go back and play eighteen again is

2:51

that he's called for a trainer, and Wes

2:53

is exactly right. This is like every tennis player who

2:55

falls behind, Oh my leg I

2:57

need a trainer, just trying to like really like stay

3:00

time. Sometimes it's legit, and in Batia's

3:02

case, it was legit, and the announcers were and I was texting

3:04

Kelly. Kelly was on the air because he couldn't really get

3:06

it because he was on the air. I'm texting Kelly.

3:09

I'm like, the announcers are speculating

3:11

that he dislo that he heard his shoulder,

3:13

first heard his shoulder on the celebration, and then

3:15

I was like, oh my god, it's confirmed. He partially

3:17

dislocated his shoulder. But it didn't

3:19

matter in the end because he was still able

3:21

to hit an approach shot or the shot before the approach

3:24

shot. And then McCarthy

3:26

hid in the creek anyway, and then I'm sure his elbow his

3:28

shoulder started feeling much better. It's tough

3:30

to put from the creek, Denny, Yeah, it

3:33

is, Wes. Let me just before, by the way,

3:35

that's the voice of Kelly Bidlin. I shouldn't assume that this

3:37

audience knows who you are. You're

3:39

like, yeap and like it's the Numbers Games. That's

3:41

Kelly Biblin, along with Wes Reynolds two thirds

3:43

of the long Shots crew. And before

3:45

I asked Wes this question, the third member

3:48

of the panel is Sia Najade, who

3:50

we have on the radio side all the time. Sia

3:53

is a host and analyst at sports

3:55

Line and the Monumental Sports Network

3:57

in Good Old DC, in the

3:59

dmv uh Sea comes

4:01

to us. You won't be able to see this, but he has a uh he

4:04

has a one of the all time very good Santana

4:06

Moss photo behind him where

4:08

he's thrown up the twenty one for Sean Taylor

4:11

Jolways love Sea. Good morning, Thank

4:13

you for doing this man.

4:14

Good morning, listen.

4:16

I wish I was on the right side of Batilla

4:18

for the outright, but I had him for a first

4:21

round leader at sixty five to one. The reason I bring

4:23

that up is because it's

4:25

I have a lot in common with Akhabt. You guys

4:27

know, I've told this story. I've dislocated my shoulders

4:30

seven times, like fully dislocated before

4:33

before the first yeah, before

4:35

the first of seven playing basketball, mostly before

4:37

the first of seven. It would it would

4:39

go like Oxhays went, where it would pop

4:41

out but then pop right back in and basically be

4:44

okay outside of some soreness. So uh,

4:46

anyway, I could very much relate to that. It

4:48

was painful for me to watch after I realized

4:50

what had happened when he was pumping his fist, But

4:54

yeah, that brought back some gruesome memories

4:56

for sure.

4:57

Seven times.

4:59

Is it just like it.

5:00

It's gonna happen for the rest of your life, that it's just going

5:02

to pop out now.

5:03

When it's in compromising positions.

5:05

Yes, it's usually like you know, playing

5:07

basketball the football. I put it in an awkward spot,

5:10

weight gets pushed against it, it comes out. It's very

5:12

hard to put it back out.

5:13

I wasn't gonna ask about the compromise.

5:16

Now, are you like falling rigs at this point?

5:18

See, I like you against

5:20

the wall like Mel Gibson style, all badass.

5:23

So you know before the

5:26

before the anti semitism he's talking about.

5:28

Yes, yeah, anti semitism.

5:30

Yeah.

5:31

The first four I was able to put it back in myself.

5:33

I'm kind of like wiggling into my shoulder. The

5:35

last three I needed assistance

5:37

in a very very big way.

5:39

Wiggling into your shoulder. Oh

5:41

man.

5:42

And the last thing, I'm sorry, I don't mean to

5:44

belabor this, but the first the first

5:47

time that it dislocated was some traumatic event

5:49

and then it just never corrected.

5:51

Well, the first time it dislocated, it popped

5:54

right back in. That was kind of my high school days where I

5:56

realized there was a problem, But it wasn't so much

5:58

of a problem that the tears and all

6:00

of that stuff inside, like wasn't as big of a

6:02

deal for it to stay out, so it wasn't

6:04

fully compromised, and then it became fully compromised,

6:07

and when it came out, it stayed out.

6:08

So wait, does this mean no one can bet on Batilla for the Masters

6:10

because he qualifies for the Masters with this win?

6:12

But now, like, if you want it, let's just say if you

6:14

had an inkling to bet him, And

6:17

someone pointed out this morning it was a

6:19

Hasselbauer who was like, if he hadn't

6:21

qualified, it would have been exactly eighty eight golfers

6:24

for the eighty eighth Masters, So he fucked that

6:26

up. Yeah, let's just say that, what an

6:28

ass. But if you if you had an inkling

6:31

to bet him, now would you not because of this situation?

6:33

I'll answer this one first, because

6:35

I don't know about you, guys. He

6:37

is definitely a guy that I had circled

6:40

to bet this week. Yet I mean,

6:42

it's it's a major week. You can always make

6:44

so many cases for so many guys that

6:46

yes, Gil, that is pretty much all it took for me

6:48

to cross off my list.

6:49

This week, where I don't really know what his shoulder is

6:52

doing.

6:52

If it's in, it's out, can how easily can

6:54

it pop back out again? Like see is talking about.

6:57

So yeah, I did cross him off my list, Wes,

6:59

Yeah, I don't know. You guys handled him.

7:01

Well, yeah, go ahead, let's see. I'm

7:04

sorry, go ahead. No.

7:05

I was just going to say, like, I don't think it's a problem, to

7:07

be honest with you, because it wasn't fully

7:09

compromised in the sense of it like being

7:11

out for a while, that's when you really have to stabilize

7:13

and you got to worry about the join and the ligaments

7:16

around the join itself. The fact that he's at

7:18

a stage where it's popping right back in. It's probably

7:20

going to be some soreness for a couple of days, but it's

7:22

actually not going to affect his golf swing at all.

7:24

The fact that he had his hand up in a non

7:26

golf position when he was celebrating that putt,

7:28

by the way, great putt by him, But that's

7:31

not a position where you're putting your shoulder

7:33

in, And therefore, outside of a couple of days of

7:35

soreness, I actually think he'll be fine with his swing.

7:38

Same for you me.

7:40

Yeah, well, yeah, I agree with in

7:42

terms of the diagnosis

7:44

that Si, having had this injury before,

7:47

just gave there. But the one thing I will say,

7:50

because as we're as we're recording

7:52

this, we're now getting the pairings

7:54

being released and oh yes, actually

7:56

he is actually in the apt one of the afternoon

7:58

groups, which I do wonder

8:01

because all the top five in the betting,

8:04

by the way, are in the first the am wave

8:06

on Thursday, and if we get

8:08

weather, I think it's going to be in the afternoon.

8:10

So I wonder if we're going to get a scenario

8:12

like we did last year where the afternoon guys

8:14

are going to have to make up to get

8:17

this back on time and you know, play twenty

8:20

eight thirty holes in a day or.

8:22

Something like that.

8:22

So that's the only thing that I could see

8:24

that could be a bugaboo on this injury for betf

8:27

he's got to play a lot of extra golf.

8:29

If you get weather in that afternoon wave Thursday.

8:32

Watch this bugaboo hip hop record?

8:34

Who's the artist.

8:35

Wes's Destiny's Child? Of

8:37

course, I think, yeah.

8:40

No, but they had a bugaboo too, they had I

8:43

always thinking of a hip hop record, but yes, that's correct.

8:45

Okay, yeah, okay, okay,

8:47

So I want to seize on the weather thing momentarily, but before

8:50

I do that, because there's going to be the beating

8:52

the book. Audience may not be as familiar with

8:55

the Long Shot Screw, but Kelly,

8:57

Wes and Matt are going to do

8:59

a live thing for those who happen to listen

9:01

to this today. They're gonna do a live thing

9:04

at eleven pm Eastern eight pm

9:06

Pacific tonight, which is the Tuesday

9:08

before the Masters. Don't

9:10

worry West, it's not actually it's not actually live,

9:12

Kelly saying, we just say it's live. By the way,

9:14

I completely thought it was live, and Kelly like, burst

9:17

my bubble.

9:17

I wonder what Killy gill all on at numbers.

9:19

We be so worried about it, Yes, acted like I had the longest

9:22

day at I mean.

9:22

I was so confused for a moment. And for those

9:24

who were wondering, if I'm listening to this, why should I listen

9:26

to that? Because you guys will go deep dive into

9:29

that more than you will hear necessarily.

9:30

Yeah.

9:30

Absolutely.

9:31

Matt Brown's picks as well.

9:32

Yeah we are.

9:33

I know Cia does a lot of this too, but very

9:35

heavy heavy data driven that we're

9:38

that we will talk through that lens. That's

9:40

what you'll hear a lot more on the podcast, more

9:43

so than I'm guessing what you're gonna see us up with questions

9:45

here for exactly, we got to leave something

9:48

for you that's right, so you'll hear

9:50

it much more through that lens on the podcast.

9:52

I also want to say this that these are not just three

9:54

I use the word Schmendricks on a numbers game this morning.

9:56

These are not just three schmendricks of golf Sea

10:00

and he doesn't want to be known for this. Hits

10:03

a ridiculous percentage and I'm not even

10:06

making this up. A first round leader bets,

10:08

which is maybe the most Even as I'm saying it, I'm

10:10

like, this is the most ridiculous thing in the world. But it's

10:13

true. He does. Wes. Uh

10:16

you helped me out here, Kelly. Is there

10:19

anybody who hits more outrights

10:21

in anything than Wes Reynolds does in

10:23

golf?

10:24

No, I mean that for a comparable sports No

10:26

like that is you're talking. We're

10:28

talking about the two guys. I mean for west

10:31

Renolds. I think a lot of people have been following this stuff for years

10:33

with golf. He hits outrights

10:35

at higher rate than almost anybody I know. It's

10:37

seeing a shot absolutely the first round.

10:39

He's become the first round leader king over the past

10:41

couple of years.

10:42

The sea things just a comical,

10:44

It's unbelievable.

10:45

It is because I had, like, I

10:47

had some success that I stumbled

10:49

into. I think, much like CEO when we like

10:52

all like kind of first round leader markets

10:54

became more widely available for

10:56

whatever reason, I found myself stumbling

10:59

into success there. But it's like betting a

11:01

first quarter of an NBA game, right, Like

11:03

it's.

11:03

Not really you're you're.

11:05

Ideally letting your hondicap play

11:08

out.

11:08

By the way we're talking, like these guys aren't even here, see is

11:10

like it's not no,

11:12

you're right, yeah, okay. So, and I also

11:15

just want to point out before we get into this particular

11:17

master's that you Kelly

11:19

do By the way, Kelly's a great golf handicapper

11:21

in his own right, you do things by model Wes.

11:25

You don't necessarily do it that way,

11:27

correct, How would you characterize it.

11:29

Kind of a combo platter? I'm not totally

11:31

model driven. A lot of it is a lot

11:33

of it is market driven as well.

11:35

A lot of it is just you know, following

11:37

this out the year, So it's not like a particular

11:39

model. It's more like a statistical context,

11:42

okay of things that I think are going to be important

11:45

on week to week basis.

11:46

By the way, how much like pressure do you feel

11:49

because you're so good at this? Like if you have a

11:51

week or two or god forbid, god

11:53

forbid Wes that you go a month without

11:56

hitting an outright, do you like lose your

11:58

mind? Do you start to get high anxiety?

12:01

Yes?

12:02

Yes, as a matter of fact, because

12:04

look, look I had a few week drought before

12:07

I hit Jaeger in Houston, and you

12:09

know, and and and because of these droughts,

12:12

that's what led me a little bit more to like placement

12:14

markets, you know, the top twenties

12:16

and the top thirties where it's like, hey,

12:19

can I still make money when

12:21

I'm not hitting out in an outright

12:23

wager? And and you know that that has

12:25

helped me at least most weeks. But but yeah,

12:27

look, you know I put a little bit

12:29

probably too much pressure on myself.

12:31

But you know, when you devote yourself to

12:33

this, you obviously want to get out what you put

12:35

into it.

12:36

I love only vsent dot com slash picks page.

12:38

When I'm lucky enough to be in the top three.

12:41

It's like Wes Renolds, like Gil

12:43

Alexander two, he went three and

12:45

two the last week for you know whatever. The

12:47

percentage ROI three and two right West Reynolds

12:49

is in the first place. He's like one hundred and seventy

12:52

eight or something like that with all his plays fires

12:55

Baby, and then Sia does

12:57

things by locating and dislocating.

13:00

What is your what would you say is your handicapping

13:02

approach?

13:03

I would say it's a combo between Wes and

13:05

Kelly's. Like I tend to steer

13:07

away from models, but I got to admit, like the the

13:10

things I'm looking at are inputs into

13:12

models. I'm just looking at it more granularly

13:15

hard word to say, by the way, So I'm looking at strokes

13:17

gain data mostly, but I'm just looking

13:19

at looking at a piece by piece because i want

13:21

to see, like even the smaller sample size

13:23

sizes that a model might show, like round by round,

13:25

tournament by tournament scoring, where whereas a

13:27

model might just like you'll collate

13:30

all of that stuff over whatever, however many rounds

13:32

you want to do it, but sixteen, twenty four, fifty

13:34

whatever, I just want to look at it piece

13:36

by piece. So it's kind of a long way to do it, but

13:39

it's kind of using both approaches that Wes and Kelly

13:41

use.

13:41

Okay, so I probably should just clarify

13:43

too. Matt Brown often does this. So if I'm not sitting

13:46

here coding and like running all this stuff,

13:48

I'm using a lot of great stat engine websites

13:50

that are out there, like Fantasy National, ric,

13:53

run good dot.

13:53

Com, bet spurts, a lot of these guys that we've

13:56

had on the shows.

13:56

You mean, you're not scraping day.

13:58

That might be shocking to you some of the y the

14:00

audience.

14:01

That's right, that's very honest of you. So

14:04

eighty eighth Masters, and

14:06

again we should always point out with the Masters the most

14:08

predictive of golf courses from

14:10

one year to the next. Obviously, it's the only major

14:12

that plays on the same golf course, and

14:14

as we alluded to earlier, it is a smaller

14:17

field than what we're normally used

14:19

to. And we just mentioned eighty nine golfers

14:22

here. With the pairings coming out right now,

14:24

and many of those not many,

14:27

but a more than negligible

14:29

percentage of the eighty nine are going

14:31

to be. As we like to joke every year, winners

14:33

from like the Eisenhower administration, right the

14:35

Larry Mises of the world and years gone

14:37

by and those kind the Bernard Langers

14:40

and those kind of players. So you really

14:42

do have a smaller pool than normal.

14:44

And let me start with what West brought up. This

14:46

is always the best place to start up if you

14:48

look at the weather forecast in Augusta, and we know

14:51

how weather forecasts go, but right now we're

14:53

seeing some rain and wind on

14:55

Thursday for the first round, and some wind

14:57

on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday is supposed

14:59

to glorious. So it's

15:02

funny how you couched it, West, because earlier on

15:04

a numbers game we had Drew densic On it's

15:06

also a nice golf handicapper,

15:08

and he was talking about how he

15:11

thought the advantage might go. Am

15:13

I right about this, Kelly? He did the opposite. He said the advantage

15:16

might go to the afternoon Thursdays

15:18

and the morning Fridays. Yeah's

15:21

no correct, correct, And you off air, You're

15:23

like, yeah, these guy everyone's really

15:25

like has assumptions about the weather and

15:27

Wes is saying the opposite now that you're

15:30

sort of operating instinct, is that the

15:33

folks in the afternoon on Thursday might

15:35

get the worst of it.

15:36

Yeah, look, it's hard to predict a weather

15:39

bias. You know, that's what we try to do every

15:41

year. It's seemingly for the Open Championship

15:43

in July, but you know,

15:45

more often than not, the wind at least

15:47

is going to be more benign you would think in the

15:49

morning.

15:50

And that's why I think, you know, on a.

15:53

Just week to week basis on the PGA Tour,

15:55

the majority and CM maybe

15:57

can confirm this or go a diferent

16:00

way with it, but it seems like a lot

16:02

of the first round leaders are in morning draws

16:05

more often than not on PGA Tour events.

16:07

Guys that are getting out and maybe those first ten

16:10

to fifteen groups in the morning.

16:12

Now, keep in mind there's only thirty pairings here

16:14

at Augusta because there's only eighty nine players.

16:16

There's one group that's a twosome that I

16:18

think is the first out, and then you have threesomes

16:21

throughout the rest. So I think, like we were talking about with Patilla,

16:23

he's like in the twenty second of thirty groups,

16:25

so that would make him in the afternoon wave.

16:28

But yeah, look last

16:30

year, obviously the weather turned this topsy

16:32

turvy or it looked like Group Kopka was

16:34

very much the winner, and then John Rahm

16:37

had to go. You know, John Rahm proved that you

16:39

can come from the tough side of the draw and

16:41

obviously win here. So just because you're on the bad

16:43

end of the draw doesn't mean that you can't

16:46

try it ultimately.

16:47

Yet John Ram the defending champion Scotti

16:49

Scheffler. His only major win was the year before

16:52

that. All right,

16:54

well, Wes, have you seen any things I know I'm asking

16:56

you to do two things at once here, but have you seen anything

16:58

in the pairings just on a glance

17:01

that makes you lean certain

17:03

directions or makes you cross out anybody?

17:06

Well, the featured pairing, and

17:09

it's going to be in the early wave on Thursday

17:11

and then the afternoon wave on Friday.

17:13

Believe they are group number twelve,

17:16

and you've got three of the top four in the betting

17:20

paired together. So you have Scotti

17:22

Scheffler paired with

17:24

Rory McElroy and Xander

17:27

Schoffle. Oh, and they

17:29

are paired together and The group in front

17:31

of them, I believe is John

17:34

Ram, the defending champion, Matt

17:36

Fitzpatrick, and Nick Dunlap, who

17:38

of course was the amateur that won the American

17:40

Express that has since turned professional.

17:43

Okay, so what is

17:46

that? Does that do anything for you from a handicapping

17:48

staff or not? Really?

17:49

You know, it doesn't change it as much

17:51

because look, and

17:54

Rory and Xander two that I do

17:56

like this week, at least on the.

17:58

Short end of the board. But

18:00

look, you're.

18:01

Gonna have to be paired and go against great

18:03

players if you want to do great things at Augustus,

18:06

So I don't think you can be intimidated by that.

18:08

Now, I was mainly looking at okay,

18:11

are some of these guys going to be paired with

18:13

Tiger? And that's where it would have

18:15

been a little bit of a concern with me if

18:17

they were gonna be paired with Tiger,

18:20

because look, that's gonna be obviously a big

18:22

story. Even though he's one hundred and fifty to one on the

18:24

odds board. Is is he

18:26

going to be able to make it? Is he gonna be able

18:28

to make the cut? Is what is the physical

18:30

toll going to be on him? Because last year,

18:33

I thought the physical toll was at least a little

18:35

bit easier through the first two rounds, simply

18:37

because Louis Houstazen withdrew

18:40

from that group. So keep in mind he played in a

18:42

twosome with Woke Neeman, so that's

18:44

a little bit easier than having to stop

18:46

and start with three players in the group.

18:48

And just the walk I think kind of got

18:50

to him and he made the cut on the number and then withdrew

18:53

over the weekend. So I wanted to make

18:55

sure maybe some of my guys were not paired

18:57

with Tiger, because if they see him struggling,

19:00

it may weigh on them a little bit, you know, to

19:02

see if he's playing bad and really struggling

19:05

physically, especially the ones that are

19:07

like really close to him, like Justin Thomas

19:09

and Jordan Speed, but neither were

19:11

paired with Tiger. As I'm actually scrolling

19:14

Jason Mary, Yeah,

19:16

I believe, And I think is that a late.

19:17

Perry and I believe?

19:18

Yeah, one twenty four.

19:20

Okay, by

19:22

the way, you see this prop Micholson versus

19:24

Tiger that some that some shops had

19:27

where it was like really tightly lined,

19:29

and now I think Michelson's minus one forty.

19:31

Phil Mickelson, who, for those who forget finished

19:35

with a flourish last year, shot

19:37

a sixty five on the final round

19:40

and was he tied for second last year

19:42

in the end?

19:43

Yeah?

19:43

Behind wrong. Yeah

19:45

that's a curious line, don't you think.

19:49

I'm not really surprised.

19:50

We had somebody actually on Matt

19:53

Humans and Ice program last night,

19:55

Vson, and I said, I really like Phil

19:57

over Tiger here, because Phil, even though he's

19:59

not really in contention on

20:01

a week to week basis on Live and it's

20:03

fifty four holes, he still at least his com playing

20:06

competitive golf Tiger Woods, by

20:08

the way, has not finished four rounds in an

20:10

official event I'm not including the Hero Rule

20:12

Challenge. Has not finished an

20:14

event where he's played all four rounds since

20:16

the twenty twenty three Genesis Invitational.

20:19

So it's been over a year since this guy

20:21

has played four rounds in tournament play.

20:23

Yeah, I mean, that's what I mean. Maybe I wasn't clarifying.

20:25

I wasn't clear. I couldn't believe it was

20:27

so short, and minus one forty

20:30

seems short to me.

20:31

Still for Micky, it was like it

20:33

was like minus one fifteen at bet mgm

20:35

Over.

20:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw one that

20:37

were even tighter. I mean I would be leaning

20:39

Phill. You're not rushing to be running

20:41

out to bet though, I would not be betting Tiger or

20:43

Phil this week. All right, well, let's start out with

20:46

Let's start out with some outrights. Sia

20:48

has not a heart out but a heart ish out,

20:51

So let's just let's do outrights first, and

20:53

then we'll sort of throw at see his way.

20:55

But Kelly, right

20:57

now, forty eight hours before.

20:59

The tournament, the tournament is who he use?

21:01

It's the totement. Gil. We don't like your

21:03

con around here. Uh

21:08

what do you have in pocket as an outright? And

21:10

then what are you thinking about?

21:11

I think my outrights are settled. I think my

21:14

outright card is complete. There are definitely

21:16

some bets I still have to add as Vegas is

21:18

taking its time to post some things here

21:20

in town. So the outrights

21:23

are about the only thing that is settled, I would say

21:25

for me right now, I have three that

21:27

I made over the

21:29

past couple months. I have three that

21:31

I've made this week justin

21:34

Thomas Hideki Matziyama, will zalatoris

21:37

I bet in the mid thirties over the

21:39

past couple months. I absolutely

21:41

love Adeci this week, so much more

21:44

that I had it back on to him at a shorter

21:46

number. He

21:49

might be my favorite. He is my favorite play

21:51

this week, no matter how you're playing him. Hideki Matziyama

21:54

is my favorite play this week. JT and Zalaturus

21:57

had some great stretches earlier or

21:59

earlier in the season. Their past couple events

22:01

have both been a little mid not

22:03

so great. JT obviously the change

22:06

a caddy with.

22:07

Does that matter to you, by the way, so close to the

22:09

event.

22:10

Because it's not just any bones

22:12

it does, see it, Wes. I don't

22:14

know how you guys feel about this with JT.

22:16

In the amount of experience he has at

22:18

Augusta, I'm not worried about

22:21

it as much, but I

22:23

don't.

22:23

Know how you guys look at that.

22:25

I just think it's a sign that he's flailing more

22:27

than anything else. The timing of it just seems very

22:29

curious with a very respected guy on the back,

22:31

so it doesn't it doesn't inspire much confidence,

22:34

let's put it that way.

22:34

Yeah, yeah, and with me. Look,

22:37

Matt Minster is a really good caddy. He was

22:39

with Patrick Cantley for several years

22:41

and they had some success together, so I'm not worried

22:43

about the quality of service he's going to

22:45

get on the bag, but it does beg

22:47

the question, like Sea was saying, like, because

22:49

I feel like Justin Thomas has played much

22:52

better this year than he had last year where he

22:54

was totally lost and missing cuts badly,

22:56

but he's still kind of searching for something and

22:59

that gets in your head a little bit. And he

23:01

hasn't won since that PGA Championship

23:03

at Southern Hills two years ago, so he's.

23:05

Certainly is question it.

23:07

But I think he is in better like pure

23:09

playing for him, just watching him than he

23:11

was this time last.

23:12

Yeah, I agree with Wes. That's kind of why I put

23:14

the bet in it for the first place. I think the consistency

23:17

you're getting out of Zalatorus and JT right now

23:19

though, is a little shaky. So I didn't go

23:21

back in on those guys in any other markets

23:23

hit DECKI I did add the other

23:25

outrights that I did bet Wyndham

23:28

Clark debutant tebut debutant,

23:31

I did bet him at thirty five to one, A

23:33

little bit of that I

23:36

bet him in the top debutant market too.

23:38

I mean we'll hit on that, we get to other bets.

23:40

I did add a small outright bet on him though, just

23:42

because this mark the number I found thirty

23:44

five to one. He had been getting kept getting chopped

23:46

down, chopped down. Think I think he's mainly around

23:49

twenty five twenty eight to one in that range

23:51

right now. So that was part of the part of a number

23:53

play. And then this

23:55

would be a I know he's on CEA his card as

23:57

well. Shane Lowry I do have as

23:59

an outright is my long bomb, my one

24:01

long kind of outright here for this tournament. Lowry

24:04

was incredible in Florida, has put together some great

24:06

results. If we're gonna talk about rain,

24:08

we know this guy can play in the rain. We've seen that

24:10

plenty of times before, done it at

24:12

a very high level. So Shane Lowry

24:15

definitely is kind of the one long

24:17

shot.

24:17

I would say that I do have a lot of interest in this week.

24:19

Shane Lowry, who's top finish here was

24:22

tie for third a couple of years ago at

24:24

the Masters. Obviously the Open

24:26

Championship his one major win, by

24:30

the way, Dave Tindall, for those who

24:32

are golf hardos who are familiar with Dave Tindall

24:35

across the Pond. He writes for Betfair. He does

24:37

his Master's formula every year. We just

24:39

had him on a numbers game where he has criteria

24:42

for the last ten Masters winners and

24:44

he winnows it down on a point system to who

24:46

actually has the most points. First time he's ever had

24:49

a tie at the top, and it is hit, Decky

24:51

and Rory tied as

24:54

his potential Masters winners per

24:56

his formula. By the way, he hit the runners

24:58

up the last two years, so

25:00

he didn't get that champ, but he got the number

25:02

two spot. Wes.

25:05

I heard you mentioned Xander earlier,

25:07

so I'm very excited to hear what you're about to say your

25:09

outrights.

25:10

Yeah yeah, and Xander

25:12

is on my card if you really look,

25:14

look, Scotty Scheffler has been, you

25:17

know, the man among mortals. I guess if you

25:19

will, statistically not just winning two

25:21

events back to back at bay Hill and at the Players,

25:23

first guy to ever defend at the Players in

25:25

that event's history, but the guy right behind

25:27

him on a lot of these categories is Xander

25:29

Schoffle, and I have him int a little

25:31

bit of a better number. I think sixteen

25:33

to one might be the best you can get out there right

25:36

now. But Xander right now second total

25:38

strokes gain top twenty and off the

25:40

tee approach around the green a little.

25:42

Bit down the board.

25:43

Putting, he's eighty f where a Scheffler I think

25:45

is around one hundred mark. But Xander

25:47

was fifth on tour in the same category in putting

25:50

last year, so it seems like it can heat

25:52

up at any moment. Xander actually

25:54

has the longest active consecutive cut

25:56

strikes made on the PGA Tour at forty two.

25:58

He's nine ahead of Scheffler and second at thirty

26:00

three. Last cut was actually at the Masters

26:03

here two years ago, but he was T three

26:05

and twenty twenty one. That was the year Matsuyama

26:07

one was T two and twenty

26:09

nineteen here at Augusta. I think he's

26:11

been the second best player on the PGA Tour this

26:13

season. He's got six top tens. You

26:16

know, it's kind of like, maybe

26:18

I'm ready to get hurt again with this guy, but it's

26:20

long past time for this guy to be second

26:23

best. You know, he's always kind of right there.

26:25

I had him at the Players and I

26:27

felt.

26:27

Like man this is the time he's gonna win.

26:29

A really really big one here and

26:31

just got passed by Scotti Scheffler and ends

26:33

up T two with Clark and Harmon.

26:37

So you know, Xanderschaffle was

26:39

a guy. The number is short, but

26:41

I think it's short for a reason.

26:43

You're the reason I sees on that is for

26:45

obviously for the obvious reasons, because he

26:47

has burned probably more golf betters

26:50

who had him in outrights than anyone that I can think

26:52

of over time. But you're not the only

26:54

one to anecdotally

26:56

anyway that seems to have landed

26:58

on him for this that are willing to go

27:01

back with him. So I thought that, I think that's interesting.

27:04

Yeah, yeah, and you know there's on

27:07

the shorter end Xander. And then I

27:09

did also play Rory speaking of getting

27:11

hurt again, if you've been betting him at the Masters, you've been

27:13

getting hurt the last ten years as he's trying to finish

27:15

this Grand Slam. But I liked what I saw

27:17

at the Valero last week. One

27:20

point eight to eight strokes gain approach per round.

27:22

That's the best that he had done, I believe since

27:25

the Canadian Open two years ago, when he

27:27

won because it came out that he's

27:29

been out to Vegas a few times working with Butch

27:32

Harmon, and you know, maybe Butch is a

27:34

good elixir.

27:34

At least in a short term.

27:36

So he's trying things, and he's

27:38

off the PGA Tour policy board, resigned

27:40

back in December. Of course, he's been the focal

27:42

point of the PGA Tour versus Live

27:45

divide, I think as much as any other player,

27:47

and I think he kind of just wants to put that on the back burner.

27:49

It's like, man, I need to win this thing. This is

27:51

the last thing I have to really accomplished

27:53

as an individual player. So Roy

27:57

McElroy, I did have a little bit at thirteen,

28:00

jakeen Neieman, I'd still maybe

28:02

play smaller at thirty to one. I got fifty to one

28:04

actually when he won the live event Jetta

28:08

last month. But this guy, you look

28:10

at the form on this guy. This guy has

28:12

been terrific for about the last five or six

28:14

months really worldwide. He's

28:16

already won two live events. He's

28:19

trying to get his world ranking up

28:21

because he mentioned after Mayacoba, hey I'm not in

28:23

the majors. He's ninety third

28:25

in the world, and this is a guy

28:27

it's probably a top fifteen or twenty player

28:29

in the world if we're really, you know, looking at

28:31

it realistically.

28:33

But he's got to.

28:34

Move that world ranking up just to get into

28:36

the US Open, just to get into the PGA

28:38

in the Open Championship. So this is an opportunity

28:41

he's got to go, you know where.

28:43

Not if he doesn't win the thing, he at least finishes

28:45

like top three or four.

28:47

So juaque neieman.

28:48

I played I would play at thirty

28:50

a couple of guys in like the mid forties and fifties

28:53

because I'm still finishing my card. Tony

28:55

Fee now whose Majors

28:57

form has not been great lately, but

29:00

before that bad run was really good

29:02

and I liked how he played in Houston a couple of weeks

29:05

ago, runner up, so really

29:07

good Tea Green and the putter's been good in three of

29:09

the last four starts. I played him about forty

29:11

five to one. And then another guy who's heard

29:13

a lot of people I'm going with all the guys that are

29:15

just heartbreakers this week Cameron

29:18

Young fifty five to one, who is

29:20

actually I think in better form coming into

29:22

this Masters than last year when he was twenty

29:24

five to one and ultimately

29:26

finished seventh. Seven runner up finishes

29:29

on the PGA Tour in the last three years for Cameron

29:31

Young. But he's got the game

29:33

here. He was the early leader in round one

29:36

last year. So I just

29:38

went on the drift here. I just went on double the

29:40

price for a guy that I think is probably in better

29:42

form this time around.

29:43

Also in the same way that I brought up Tendall and who

29:45

he landed on, I should bring up because you brought up Tony

29:48

Fenew and because we can hear

29:50

gasps already when we bring up showflet or

29:52

finale from all golf betters listening

29:54

to this. When Joe Peta

29:56

our friend who people know from baseball analytics

29:59

and also analytics, when he did the twenty

30:01

nineteen Master's Tour Guide where

30:03

he had access to the proprietary Augusta

30:06

data, his

30:08

conclusion was that Tony Feenow was

30:10

going to win that twenty nineteen Masters.

30:13

He was actually the third round leader, if

30:15

I'm not mistaken, didn't get there. But

30:17

Fenw's analytics on this

30:19

course over time are as good as

30:21

anyone's. All right,

30:24

SIA, your outrights, And then that you can

30:26

vomit out everything else at this point too, but let's

30:28

start with your outrights.

30:30

Yeah, I like what I had just heard from Wes

30:32

and Kelly.

30:32

I mean, I don't know that brooks Kepka's name was

30:34

mentioned, but you know, I don't want

30:36

to go narrative shopping too much here, but the

30:38

big game hunter thing actually is true

30:40

for brooks Keopka, And even though on Livy

30:43

he's not taking down tournaments, I do think

30:45

Brooks is one of those guys that none of us are

30:47

going to be surprised if he wins this tournament. I got it at

30:49

twenty to one. I think it's eighteen, maybe sixteen

30:52

to one in some markets. But again,

30:54

I brooks Kopka when he's not injured,

30:56

because don't forget he missed a couple of cuts here when

30:58

he was kind of dealing with injuries. But otherwise,

31:01

I believe we've got two second place finishes and a

31:03

seventh place finishes over the last five years,

31:05

so I.

31:05

Really like him.

31:06

I don't know that he's getting enough respect

31:08

in the market, and I do think that has something to do with

31:11

Live and just not really flashing.

31:12

On Live necessarily. But Hitdeki mounts Siyama.

31:14

Kelly mentioned him, and there's a guy

31:16

that Wes mentioned too that I'm really surprised about

31:18

but is also on my card. So I'm really happy to hear that.

31:21

But there's not much else we can say about

31:23

Deckie. We know the recent forum has been very good.

31:25

I don't know that there's anybody in

31:28

this field. I mean, obviously probably two or three that

31:30

you can make the argument for that's more comfortable

31:32

at Augusta than Hideki mount Sciama. We know he has

31:34

the win in twenty twenty one, but since twenty fifteen,

31:37

for the record, to think about that, it's a long time ago. He's

31:40

made every cut Okay, that's kind of impressive

31:42

and finished inside the top twenty eight

31:44

out.

31:44

Of those nine times.

31:46

That is really really Oh by the way, the one

31:48

time he didn't finish inside the top twenty, he was

31:50

a disgusting T thirty two. I

31:52

mean, this guy is just a walking top

31:54

ten, top twenty machine at Augusta. Specifically,

31:57

he's got the around the green game. He checks to weight it off,

31:59

the tee boxes, long iron

32:01

play. Obviously around the Green is super

32:03

solid for him. Absolutely love him. Cam

32:05

Young's the guy that I was surprised, Wes mentioned. I'm

32:07

really happy about it because I think Wes is right. I

32:10

think he is in better form now than he was before. And

32:12

for the record, this is his third time at the Masters.

32:14

He missed the cut his first time, no shame in

32:16

that debutante all that stuff.

32:18

But the second time he was excellent

32:20

off the tee and he was excellent with the putter.

32:23

He checks all the boxes I'm looking for with long

32:25

irons, off the tee, approach game,

32:27

all of that stuff. What's interesting about him,

32:29

and maybe this is a small sample size, but his around

32:32

the green game is not very good.

32:34

Right, But at Augusta, the two times he's been there,

32:36

he's been relatively neutral. I mean, he

32:38

hasn't had a poor performance, hasn't had a great performance

32:41

around the green. So I think the argument can

32:43

be made that he might actually have some success

32:45

here around the green.

32:46

And because he checks all the other boxes.

32:48

I think fifty five to one, fifty to one is

32:50

like borderline disrespectful.

32:52

I know he doesn't win. I get that part.

32:54

But we make the same argument about Xander Schaffley,

32:56

and I'm not sure the talent gap between those

32:58

two is that dramatic so fifty five to

33:00

one, fifty to one, absolutely love Cam Young.

33:03

All right, sea first round leaders

33:05

where you've made your hay.

33:08

Yeah, I'll make this super easy.

33:09

We talked about Cam Young getting getting in front

33:12

of it in the first round. I like him, I

33:14

like Kideki Matsuyama, I like Brooks Kopka.

33:16

I'm going with my outright card.

33:17

Here's part of the reason I don't normally do this, but

33:19

two weeks ago at the Houston Open, West Reynolds

33:22

had Steven Yeger Well, I had Stephen Yeger first

33:24

round leader, but I didn't have him in my outright card.

33:26

Last week I had akshe Batia first round leader.

33:28

Turns out that hit, but he didn't you know,

33:30

I didn't have the akhe Batia outright.

33:33

And so that's two weeks in a row where I've had the first

33:35

round leader but not the outright and it was the

33:37

same guy. I'm just gonna go ahead

33:39

and go with guys that I know can get out in front of

33:41

it.

33:41

I mean Decky, cam Young and Brooks.

33:43

They fit that profile and you

33:45

know, most of them very comfortable

33:47

here. I think at their numbers, which are in like the

33:49

twenty eight to one range, and then then in Cam

33:51

Young's case, I think he's in the forty five

33:53

to one range, like all three.

33:55

Like the sound of that. By the way,

33:57

I have dare you not have Patiata win the whole?

34:01

I know, terrible, I know what I'm thinking.

34:03

It's so funny because you guys do this so much more brilliantly

34:06

than I do. But somehow in my head

34:09

hack golf better. I

34:11

love Matsuyama and Keopka the most.

34:13

Also, and Kepka because, like

34:15

you said, big game hunter, right, I

34:17

hate not having him and then seeing

34:19

that shitting't e grin of

34:21

his as he's just like, you know, crushing

34:23

of course, so I

34:26

will be on him and then Matsuyama. I've said this

34:28

on a couple occasions this week with Kelly. I

34:31

just feel like if we on Vson,

34:33

for instance, maybe it's different with long

34:35

shots, but on Vson, if we somehow

34:38

had a way of aggregating all the time we've

34:40

spent not only on a numbers geting on

34:42

every show talking about all the great golfers

34:45

in the world, from the Kepka's to the JT's, to

34:47

the Speace to the Schefflers, to

34:49

the Rams and beyond. I

34:51

just feel like Matsuyama is the least

34:54

talked about of all of that tier

34:57

of golfers. And I get it, all right, maybe he's

34:59

not quite the top of the tip of

35:01

the top, but I just feel like

35:03

he gets overlooked a lot. And

35:06

you know, besides providing us with the most iconic moment,

35:08

or one of the more iconic moments in Master's history

35:10

with his caddy bowing at eighteen,

35:13

which is just you know, it's chill inducing,

35:15

I just I have a feeling about him as well.

35:18

Take that for what it's worth, which is not worth much, but

35:20

that's Those are the two I landed on, SEEA so

35:22

that you can go tell us all your other bets here.

35:24

Yeah, by the way, one outright, I forgot, and I

35:26

think Kelly brought him up. I do like Shane Lowry

35:29

at sixty to one. I did want to point that out. He's

35:32

been really hot in Florida and

35:34

let's see at the Masters his last four T sixteen,

35:37

third T twenty one, twenty five, and he's

35:39

really coming in with good form, particularly with the

35:41

iron. So I think sixty to one, that's the fourth

35:43

guy on my card. I just forgot to mention him. So it's

35:45

it's the three I mentioned plus Shane Lowie. Okay, so just

35:47

a couple other picks turning matchups,

35:49

I got two for you. I got Shane Lowry speaking

35:52

of over Colin Moore cow, I like Taylor

35:54

Moore over Eric Cole.

35:55

Taylor Moore in very very good.

35:56

Form, some spike finishing positions.

35:59

I do think he has some top ten, top twenty potential.

36:01

Eric Cole's game is just not there right now for whatever

36:03

reason. So Taylor Moore minus one thirty over Cole. These are tournament

36:05

matchups, and then I'll just rattle off a few finishing

36:07

positions before I get out of here. Taylor

36:10

Moore t forty. I like that at plus

36:12

money. That's plus one ten. I like Lucas

36:14

Glover, who has also in very good form and has

36:16

had some success at the Masters.

36:19

Hasn't played a lot of it. He played a lot of it pre

36:21

twenty fifteen, hasn't played a lot lately, but when

36:23

he has played, he's been okay. He certainly

36:25

fits the bill for somebody who would T forty

36:27

here. I like that at plus one oh five. Seawoo

36:30

Cam minus one ten at T thirty very

36:32

comfortable Master's history for him, I've

36:34

got Shane Lowry T twenty at plus

36:36

one fifty and a sprinkle

36:38

bet because I know people are going to be hesitant to bet

36:40

Cam Young to win it for kind of obvious

36:42

reasons. I think Cam Young in the top ten

36:45

market may may be the better play,

36:47

the more valuable play at plus three

36:49

sixty. So that's something I think you know again,

36:51

those plus three sixty plays when it comes to finishing

36:53

market, you don't have to put a full unit on that, right,

36:56

You don't even have to put a half unit. You can put point three

36:58

units on that to get a full unit. So

37:00

those are kind of like, if you like Cam Young, but

37:02

you don't like him enough to bet him as an outright, maybe

37:04

you take him in the top ten where I think he can firmly

37:07

land at plus three sixty.

37:08

All right, Sea, thank you so much. Man,

37:10

appreciate it's seeing the shot. Everybody SI

37:13

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37:15

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37:19

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37:21

and sports line host and analyst

37:25

and of course a member or

37:27

at least a resident of the DMV.

37:29

Now, thank you, Sea, appreciate it.

37:31

Man, Thank you, Gil Kelly and Wes

37:33

he soon and have a great week.

37:35

You too, go get some winners. Seeing his shot

37:37

kind to join us. He's got other stuff he's got

37:39

to do as well. By

37:42

the way, Wes, let me just point this out. When I asked about

37:44

Bugaboo, I'm like thinking ed Og and the Bulldogs,

37:47

and Wes comes in with Destiny's shot, and I'm like,

37:49

okay, West, it's on top of him as

37:52

always. Well, I was.

37:54

Trying to think of who you were thinking of.

37:56

But I do remember that song. I was like Destiny's

37:59

Child or was it a show?

38:00

It was one of those It's only two

38:03

thousand, R and B beyond Janus.

38:04

It was great because I know you too well, both well enough

38:07

that I know Gil was trying to set up the

38:09

alley up to show off the West Reynolds

38:11

knowledge and then he just came over.

38:12

The top of it. Yeah. By the way,

38:14

we didn't mention that on the show today. How great We

38:16

did a whole show obviously at college basketball was big.

38:19

The most random moment of that

38:21

game last night. Who was the kid

38:23

on Purdue that had that dunk? Yeah?

38:27

That was that mountain heid Heidi.

38:29

I was out of my I was out of my chair

38:31

and we didn't bring that up on it.

38:33

We can't wear two hours. We didn't bring it up. Am I

38:36

wrong in saying? That is easily one

38:38

of the top five in game

38:40

dunks you've ever seen in

38:42

your life at any level.

38:44

And yet they couldn't put it in the One

38:46

Shining Moment and put it in video package

38:48

at the end of the night.

38:49

I'm like, come on, you know I didn't even think

38:52

squeeze that right in. Yeah, I

38:55

love.

38:55

One Shining Moment.

38:56

I was so mad how late it was

38:58

last night, Like it felt like it took for ever.

39:00

I don't know they forgot We're gonna have one

39:02

Shining Moment the other broadcast.

39:04

I made sure to stay. I love one Shining Moment.

39:07

It's my favorite moment of the entire tournament.

39:10

How was that not in there?

39:11

Well, let me go back to the expert West Reynolds. I'm more

39:13

of a Teddy Pendergrass One Shiny Moment

39:15

guy than I am a loose.

39:16

Shit I am too.

39:17

I love Luther, and you know they switched

39:20

it with a couple other singers, But yeah,

39:22

Teddy Pandergrass. And maybe I'm old

39:24

school too, because that's when my university

39:27

was. I think a lot more relevant college basketball

39:29

that be in Indiana University, where they

39:31

were always featured deep in multiple

39:34

times in the package.

39:36

When Teddy Pendergrass was doing

39:38

the number.

39:39

Real quick, I know we're talking

39:41

golf. I'm so glad you brought that up.

39:42

Though.

39:43

I was like, I saw him like

39:45

it was one of those I saw coming. But I was

39:47

like, all right, what's this kid gonna do here? You

39:49

know, like, what's this this kid going

39:52

to do on this put back?

39:53

There's no and you're like, oh my, well,

39:56

one.

39:56

Last college basketball question before we get back to golf. I think

39:58

the golf people will forgive me, but I have Wes

40:00

here, so I want to ask him. My big question last

40:03

night was forget the fact that uk

40:05

Obviously we know Yukon's domination against

40:07

Perdue last night come second half,

40:11

but where do I arbitrarily made

40:13

the year two thousand? Where does that

40:15

team rank for you since the

40:17

year two thousand? Are they the best college basketball

40:20

team since that.

40:20

Year in terms of a team that

40:23

actually, you know, finishes winning the championship?

40:26

I think it's at least the.

40:27

Best team since twenty twelve Kentucky,

40:30

And then, of course was the ad team

40:32

that ended up winning at all.

40:33

That was Col's lone national championship.

40:36

Perhaps that has not been officially

40:38

announced yet that he's leaving Lexington,

40:41

But yeah, I think in terms

40:43

of like the Ken Pomeroy I read this adjusted

40:46

efficiency ranking, just overall, it's

40:48

the best team since twenty one

40:51

Duke. So if you

40:53

go by that type of rating and put some

40:55

credence into that, I could certainly see

40:57

that. But it's at least the best team in over a decade.

41:00

For me, Doctor Bob had a non

41:03

winner twenty fifteen Kentucky,

41:05

the team that was undefeated that got to the Final.

41:07

Four, because I was there at that Final four

41:09

in Indianapolis at Luca Stadium when

41:11

Wisconsin knocked him off. So that's why I said non

41:14

championship team, because they did get

41:16

all the way to the final four undefeated, where

41:18

we're still waiting for that fully undefeated

41:20

season since the last time with seventy six

41:22

Indiana.

41:23

Kent Benson, Quinn Buckner, and Scott

41:26

may Kelly.

41:26

You remember it, Oh yeah, sure

41:29

totally.

41:31

By the way, you know what wish Nev was obsessed with yesterday

41:33

at the end that I can only say this on the podcast, I can say

41:36

that's the radio side, wish nev yesterday morning

41:38

goes, you gotta find this out for me. Where's

41:40

is this the in? How long was this

41:43

the most white starters for both

41:45

teams combined? Oh? When was the let

41:47

so.

41:47

I literally about that earlier in the tournament.

41:49

Well, you all were looking at a solar eclipse.

41:52

I was like a deep diving NCAA

41:55

finalists for and the only comp

41:57

I could come up with. Now we're

41:59

not talking you know, pre nineteen

42:01

sixty six UTEP because obviously the world

42:04

was different and in a bad way. But

42:06

the only comp I could come up was like nineteen seventy

42:08

eight Duke Kentucky

42:10

where they also had six Caucasian

42:13

starters. Cittingway, that was wish

42:16

cancerted yesterday.

42:17

Well, then you know that's the day about college

42:19

basketball. Now, there was only one

42:21

McDonald's All American, by the way, in the final

42:23

four Stefan Castle

42:25

at Yukon, Wow, which

42:27

you don't get that very often. And the fact

42:30

that it's get old stale

42:32

now in college basketball.

42:33

It's all old stale all to portal.

42:35

Yes, yeah, yeah, you got to get the Blue

42:37

Chippers, but you got to get older guys. Cam

42:39

Spencer, by the way, who was

42:42

he didn't get the most Valuable Player. I think it was Tristan

42:44

Newton. But Cam Spencer for Yukon

42:47

just turned twenty four on Saturday and

42:49

I looked it up. There were six NBA

42:51

All Stars this year age twenty four or

42:53

younger.

42:55

Yeah, there was something where he's like, he's like older and

42:57

they listed all these NBA players. I'm like, camp

42:59

Spencer's old with all those guys.

43:01

Anyway, Paulo Boncaro is twenty one.

43:03

Yeah, he's like way older than Bud

43:05

Carrol. Anyway. Well,

43:09

it's a golf podcast, but I'd love to

43:11

get your thoughts on next year because

43:13

if if Bama can stick keep those guys,

43:15

man, I think Bama's the play. But

43:17

that's a big if. Uh Okay, back

43:19

to golf, Wes. What else besides

43:21

your outrights do you have in pocket already?

43:23

What have you bet?

43:24

I'm gonna be playing and I'm actually gonna be

43:26

adding after we're done here some placement

43:29

markets.

43:29

One matchup I did play.

43:31

I did play Patrick Reid plus

43:33

one fifteen over Terrel Hatton and Teryl

43:36

Hatton. If you were watching the live dural

43:38

event last week, he was in the mix didn't get

43:40

it done there. At the end, Dean Burdmester won

43:42

the playoff over Sergio Garcia.

43:44

But this is just terrel.

43:46

Hatton has never really seemed to be

43:48

comfortable at Augusta National, has never

43:50

really liked it here. He's got one top twenty and seven

43:52

appearances. And Patrick Reid, who

43:54

look is not contending week

43:56

in and week out on the Live Tour, loves

43:59

this play and he's still a magician

44:02

around the greens with scrambling and around

44:04

the green, which I think is going to really matter this week.

44:06

So you know, I was surprised see Patrick

44:08

Reid that big of an underdog, cause I did play Patrick

44:11

Reid plus one fifteen over

44:13

Tyrollhatton on a matchup. And then for

44:16

low amateur this year, I went

44:18

with the big six to eight kid who plays

44:20

at Georgia Tech. You might remember if you watched

44:22

the Open Championship last year he

44:25

was the first round leader there.

44:27

And I went with Chrysto Lamprecked at

44:29

plus two twenty five to be the low.

44:31

Amateur here at Augusta National.

44:34

And that's always kind of a crapshoot market because

44:36

you're getting the British Amateur you're getting

44:38

the USM, you're getting the

44:41

Latino America Amateur, so you're getting only

44:43

a few in the field. But Christo

44:46

Lampreck, look, I gotta think he's at least played

44:48

Augusta National several times,

44:50

being a member of the Georgia Tech Golf team, you

44:52

know, and being based at least in the state.

44:55

So Christo Lampreck plus two

44:57

twenty five low am.

44:58

Oh so say it might be a crap shoot market

45:01

for a lot of people out there. Wes Rynolds definitely

45:03

has a better read on that kind of stuff than most

45:05

of us.

45:05

I'll say that, much.

45:06

Like Jason Weingarten doing baseball prospecially

45:08

exactly. I think he knows what he's talk exactly. By

45:11

the way, about debutants because it's our annual,

45:14

you know, entree to using the word debutants

45:16

where no first time Masters

45:19

player has won the Master since nineteen

45:21

seventy nine. And Fuzzy Zeller, do

45:23

you throw out all first timers to

45:25

win it all? Wes more more

45:27

often than not.

45:28

Yes, But look, and I

45:30

don't have any on the on the card necessarily.

45:33

But Kelly mentioned one though, that usually

45:35

you don't get a first timer that's

45:38

already a major championship winner, and

45:40

you do have that this year with Wyndham Clark.

45:42

In terms of the debutant market, there's

45:45

twenty by the way, this year in the eighty

45:47

nine player field. Ludwig Obert,

45:49

who you know, if you listen to Launch every

45:51

week, Ludwig Gobert is like price less than

45:53

twenty to one. He's already won on the PGA Tour

45:56

and he's won on the DP World Tour. But it's like

45:58

this guy gets priced like he's a major champion

46:01

and now he's not. A guy I'm necessarily

46:04

high on this week just because I think this,

46:06

by the way, is his the first major championship

46:08

he's ever played.

46:09

Ludvigobert, as much of.

46:11

A star as he is, this is

46:13

going to be his first major championship

46:15

appearance. So man, if he does

46:17

it, then then maybe he is the next big

46:19

thing in golf. And I think he is going to be, you

46:22

know, a pretty big player for years to come. But

46:25

yeah, you've got a lot of people in this debutante

46:27

market, but don't I don't bet him

46:29

for the outright wins, but I think certainly for

46:33

placements and any type

46:35

of props, I don't think you want to ignore these

46:37

guys, because keep in mind, will Zalatorus

46:40

was runner up his first time a couple of years ago.

46:43

Montsia Jonas Lexed.

46:44

Actually many years ago, was a debutante

46:46

in finished.

46:47

D two here.

46:48

So don't think that these guys are just

46:50

all going to be at the bottom of the board when you're

46:52

scrolling through. There's going to be a

46:54

couple of these guys that contend.

46:56

Yeah, yeah, I honestly,

46:58

Wes, this is interesting

47:01

is I can remember it a

47:03

long time that the the the

47:05

debutant market. God, I'm so sick of debutant

47:08

and totality.

47:09

I'm only like totality.

47:11

I'm already I'm only halfway done with probably

47:13

Master's content for the week. I'm so sick of saying

47:15

the word debutante before you before you go west?

47:17

Did you did you were? Did you look for the clips

47:19

yesterday? Did you did you see it?

47:21

I did not.

47:21

I called the coverage on television

47:23

as I was doing some uh some written

47:26

work for the Masters stuff. We were doing

47:28

the same I saw well at

47:30

my hometown in Indianapolis. There was a big

47:32

deal at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Yeah,

47:34

which I guess is a pretty good place to watch it.

47:37

And uh yeah, so, uh

47:39

yeah, I was watching that all the day.

47:40

It's like, okay, they.

47:41

Have totality here in

47:43

New Hampshire, yes, but not yet

47:46

in Vermont.

47:46

Well, yeah, the totality. The

47:49

totality spots were great and

47:51

awesome and it must be so cool.

47:54

But I have a working theory that

47:56

people lie when they are

47:58

in other places. So like, there's people in

48:01

Vegas I have when I was a kid in DC too.

48:03

I have the same reaction in both both times where

48:05

I'm like, I didn't see a thing and in both

48:07

cases there were people in the same

48:10

spot that I was like, oh, it was amazing.

48:12

Are people lying? Wes? Really? Aren't

48:14

people full of it?

48:16

Yeah?

48:16

Look, I think people want something kind of

48:18

exciting and in their life and then their

48:20

lives do and you know, just want some kind

48:22

of escapism from the normal

48:25

day to day news cycle that we currently

48:27

have, so you know, maybe

48:29

a little bit of embellishment.

48:30

I'm sorry, Kelly said totality. I apologize.

48:33

Go ahead, Yeah, you're fine. No, I was just are

48:36

you kidding? Me?

48:37

As fascinating with that as anybody, but no,

48:39

the deputyp Market, I think is really fascinating

48:42

this this year. I mean, you brought up all thatself

48:44

about Louvie Abert, but that are o bear.

48:46

But this is like Wes.

48:48

I think that you know, the course, we're moving back some of

48:50

the tea boxes, like I do think

48:52

like the course fits. Some of these guys game

48:54

pretty damn well, including Ludwig, including

48:57

Wyndham Clark, including Aux Japetia.

49:00

You know, if his shoulder can stay in the socket, you

49:02

know, I think I think he's got.

49:04

A fighting chance. Danny McCarthy's right there in that

49:06

market as well.

49:07

So I mean we've had we've seen other

49:09

guys that have won this year, you know, obviously

49:11

Pavone, Jake nab Nick Dunlap.

49:14

I'm I'm excited to see what

49:16

some of these guys can do. And I do have some betting

49:18

interest in Wyndham Clark. As

49:20

you said, guy's already won a major. I don't really

49:23

the experience of Augusta is extremely important,

49:25

but at the moment's not going to be too much more,

49:27

that's for sure.

49:30

Those are all your bets. You have other bets that you've made

49:32

besides that, right, So.

49:33

I got yeah, I got others.

49:35

Yeah, I can roll through mine here quick, so

49:37

outrights already went through those top I have

49:39

a big bet, big bet top ten on

49:41

Xander Schoffley. That's the way I chose to attack

49:44

that. Completely agree with everything that Wes said,

49:46

though I would have him as the second best guy you

49:48

know on the PGA Tour right now. I think that there

49:51

are the Masters is very

49:53

interesting to me this year because if you are someone

49:55

who focuses heavy

49:57

PGA Tour as I do,

50:00

and not as much live, and West does a little

50:02

bit more with that stuff than I do.

50:04

The live guys.

50:05

Yes, I think John Rahm, I think Brooks Koepka

50:08

is interesting. I think it's great.

50:10

I think Jackie Neeman's interesting with the year he's

50:12

putting together. I think his

50:14

odds have maybe gotten a little too short though

50:16

for me to have much interest betting interest

50:19

in him. So you kind of if you throw out

50:21

the live guys, then you can start picking through

50:23

these PGA Tour guys and man

50:25

West like you could.

50:26

It's it's only a handful of.

50:28

Guys that you could really make a claim that

50:30

are okay, this is a world class

50:32

player who's in form coming

50:35

into this tournament that you can

50:37

really that you can really feel confident backing,

50:39

So I think that's part of the reason why

50:42

why I'm more confident putting some dollars behind

50:44

Sanders Shoffley, then maybe a lot of people would

50:46

be in this tournament because he is one of those

50:48

guys who's been getting it done basically

50:50

week in and week out on tour this year. So

50:53

yeah, I went top ten on him, heavy bet

50:56

on top Hitdeki, top twenty.

50:57

If he finishes. If Shafley finishes twelve, will

51:00

you never ever bet on him again for the rest of the calendar

51:02

year.

51:02

No, I'll still better.

51:04

I'll be.

51:07

Heavy bet on the top twenty on Hitdeki, Matsi

51:10

Yama. I will be adding uh

51:12

finishing position markets here today. Other

51:15

guys that I will be adding Nieman I

51:17

will be mixing in somewhere. I think what I'm gonna do with

51:19

him is probably take a top ten shot. Either

51:21

he's got the game to show up and compete and

51:24

he's right around there, or uh,

51:26

we're all overrating what he's done this year. So

51:28

I'll probably play a top ten on him.

51:31

Shane Lowry.

51:32

Shane Lowry, I ended up playing in a couple matchups,

51:35

so I might actually not play in any of the finishing

51:37

position markets, but I think a top twenty bet

51:39

on him is sound. See you brought Seawill

51:42

came up. I will definitely be on him in a top twenty

51:44

bet, waiting for some pricing to show

51:46

up on him. And

51:49

that's everything finishing position tournament

51:52

matchups right now. I have hit Deecki over Jordan

51:54

Speith. I don't hate Speek this week,

51:57

but this is more of a price play only minus one twenty.

51:59

I gotta lay with deck I've got Decky.

52:00

I don't hate Jordan, So you just hate Jordan Smith in general.

52:03

Yeah, he's a human.

52:04

Good point.

52:04

Yeah, I hate Jordan Speed in general. I hate

52:06

how much he talks to the damn Caber stuff. Just

52:08

get out of your game. But no, I think betting

52:11

wise this week, he is a guy you could make a

52:13

case for, but the minus one twenty

52:15

not steep enough for me to stay away from a Decky matchup

52:17

over him, and I bet Lowry plus one

52:19

oh four over call him more a cow. I believe

52:22

that was the one that Sea mentioned. I'm on the same

52:24

exact matchup as him, and then Lowry

52:26

plus one twenty over Matt Fitzpatrick mat Fitzpatrick

52:29

another guy that I don't think is

52:31

gonna have it. He could have a good

52:34

week, but he's not really high on my radar. Calinmore

52:36

Kala not really a guy that's put it all together.

52:39

And then a couple other props that I've bet so far, Wyndham

52:41

Clark I mentioned as top Debutante, and then Corey

52:43

Connors I bet for top Canadian.

52:47

Corey Connors is to hit the Gala.

52:49

Were the guys that kind of just I just

52:51

left off my card for other

52:54

bets that I'm interested in, But

52:56

Corey Connors made it for top Canadian

52:59

for sure?

52:59

Okay, do we lose web? Okay?

53:03

Did West gave out all his plays?

53:05

Right? Didn't he already?

53:06

If not, they'll be up at Visa dot gum.

53:08

Visa dot com slash picks. Uh, let's try

53:10

to get West back because I want to ask my final two questions.

53:13

So here are the final two final

53:16

two questions. I want to get your thoughts on this one. First

53:21

of all, who is the golfer

53:24

that if they win or are competing

53:26

at the end, you're gonna

53:28

have the most self loathing over because

53:31

you will not have any position on them, like

53:33

who's the guy that you and by that I mean obviously there's

53:35

like, you know, millions of choices. Yeah, I'm talking about someone who

53:37

you're thinking about betting but ultimately

53:40

are not going to, and then they're gonna

53:42

stick it up your you know what when all is said

53:44

and done.

53:45

Well, I just mentioned Connor's at the gala, but

53:48

if we're being honest, I wouldn't bet an outright

53:50

on Connors anyways, So I guess

53:52

the Gala might be the answer for me,

53:55

but it's also it's also

53:57

Brooks Koepka.

53:58

Yeah, but I is.

54:00

Yeah, I'm glad you brought this up because there's

54:02

also the outrights. I rattled off like I'm

54:04

I'm leaving room to get in live as well.

54:06

Okay, so that was my second.

54:08

Yeah, like there are there are some

54:10

guys at the top of that board, whether it and

54:12

mainly i'm talking Scheffler Rom Koepka.

54:15

Yes, yeah, those three literally those three

54:17

is what I'm talking about of where I would look to

54:19

get in live on one of those.

54:21

So these were exactly my my final two questions.

54:23

And Wes, I think you've given out all your bets already, so I can

54:25

ask you the final two questions.

54:26

Yeah, yeah, so far.

54:27

I'm gonna add more over the

54:29

over the next couple of days.

54:31

But so so the fun Yeah, the final

54:33

two head, Oh, no, you finish your thought, go ahead. I'm sorry.

54:35

No, I was just gonna say I'm gonna add a couple more of

54:38

the placements. Usually I don't place those

54:40

on a week until like Tuesday or Wednesday,

54:42

you know, just to kind of get a gauge of the market.

54:45

But uh, that's what I have, at least

54:47

at the moment, but more to come, certainly.

54:49

Okay, So here are the final two questions. They're not the megapod

54:52

questions, but they're at the final two and and Kelly's

54:54

right, they are kind of related. Which is my

54:56

standard question for golf. Is much of golf

54:58

betting for many a self

55:01

loathing, Like you think about betting

55:03

a golfer, but you don't pull the trigger

55:05

on it, and then comes Sunday back nine. There

55:08

they are either in the lead or in contention. And

55:10

so my first question is, you

55:13

know, which is the golfer that is going to cause

55:15

you the most self loathing because you're not gonna have any

55:17

money on it. But Kelly's right, my second question

55:19

is actually related which is, on the other

55:21

hand, how much of your betting

55:23

pie is going to be in tournament. So

55:26

Scheffler, who's four to one? We all love Scotti

55:28

Scheffler, for God's sake, I feel like you

55:30

should have a bet on him in every tournament. But at four

55:32

to one, that's ridiculous, right,

55:34

Like, no one's really betting him pre

55:36

flop, and now I just say no one. Someone is, But

55:39

it's not like necessarily something

55:41

that you guys would do. Who is the

55:43

golfer that you aren't going to have anything

55:46

preflop, but you will be quick

55:48

to jump in on if a number becomes

55:50

more favorable.

55:52

It might be It might be Patrick

55:54

Cantley actually, because he is drifted

55:57

up to forty to one, and this

55:59

is a guy I have a prop bet on.

56:01

Him to win a major this year.

56:03

But yeah, Patrick Cantley

56:06

Victor Hoblin being another one. Those are kind

56:08

of the two guys that have drifted up that I thought,

56:10

Okay, this is their year going into this year

56:12

where they're going to finally win a major, and

56:15

neither has really played that great. Can't

56:18

Lay was the fifty four hole leader at

56:20

Riviera when I had him, and as

56:22

alators as well, and they got passed by Matsiyama

56:24

who shot that sixty two on

56:27

Sunday to get the win. But yeah,

56:29

Victor Hoblin's kind of been a little bit off

56:32

this year. You know, he has a sports

56:34

psychologist out there, he's had a different

56:36

swing coach, but yeah,

56:38

he's got the potential, man, But I

56:41

just am like, Okay, the day of the week,

56:43

I don't put these guys on. Here are

56:45

the weeks that they're going to burn me. So you always

56:47

have that fomo type of thing. I

56:50

think, especially as a golf futures better. But

56:52

those are the two that I think have drifted up

56:54

a little bit where it's like, man, these guys would

56:56

be in like the teens or the twenty to one and

56:58

now you're seeing them like forty one out there in the

57:00

market.

57:01

Those are good answers. All right, I lied here

57:03

here's my last the last question. So

57:05

Hoblin and Kent'tley would would fill that

57:08

bill. Who's the guy though that no

57:10

matter how good he's doing rounds

57:13

one, rounds two, rounds three, you're it's

57:15

not gonna be a Hoblin or can't lay, but you're still

57:17

gonna be like I'm still not betting this guy. There's

57:19

no way I'm betting him. This can't be real, It's

57:21

not happening. Is

57:24

that a Tyrrell Hatton kind of guy?

57:26

Wes who you got?

57:28

Oh Man? Probably?

57:30

I mean, I don't know if I could pick on

57:32

guys, that would

57:34

be.

57:35

A good answer.

57:35

That is a good answer.

57:37

You don't feel like, Okay, it's his time.

57:39

You feel like eventually he's going to have a time, but

57:42

is it going to be here? Like can this really

57:44

happen like that? That seems like something

57:46

that only Tiger Woods would do, like when his

57:48

first ever major on you

57:50

know that early in his

57:52

career. But uh uh, A couple guys,

57:55

even though I did bet him on a matchup that I won't

57:57

have on an outright just because the form,

57:59

the form isn't there.

58:01

Is Patrick Reid.

58:03

You know, like last year we were watching this when the

58:05

live guys all kind of got ignored in

58:07

the betting market and drifted up too far and then

58:09

they played really well well now, especially

58:11

if like Brooks and you go walking

58:14

Neeman in there too, and maybe

58:16

even to Shambo where it's kind of like, okay,

58:18

everybody knows that these guys, you

58:20

know, yeah, are still at least

58:23

playing, you know, somewhat competitive golf,

58:25

whatever you think of the live tour. But Bryson

58:28

to Shambo actually a name I just mentioned. That's

58:30

a guy I will say because his distance,

58:32

he's still number one in distance, He's

58:34

still got some touch around the greens.

58:36

But I just don't feel and remember

58:38

he had that.

58:39

Quote where it's like I feel like sixty seven's

58:41

even party had that asenine quote

58:43

and then he proceeded to shoot I think like several

58:45

over. But Bryson to Shambo, just

58:47

to me, on these greens, I

58:50

never trust him, yeh. I never trust

58:52

him on these bent grass greens, on these slick

58:54

greens. So that might be the one

58:57

where it's like, oh, this can't be real, like he's about

58:59

to falter at some point.

59:00

I I as I was scrolling down the odds

59:02

board, that was the next name I was gonna mention.

59:04

I think Ludwig maybe.

59:05

A little unfair because we're picking on one of the new

59:07

bee kids for guys that have been here

59:09

before, who have you know, who have won,

59:12

uh, you know, on tours before.

59:13

Bryson Deshamba would be I'm with Wes.

59:15

I don't think there's any situation where

59:17

I'd be like, oh man, I missed out on Bright's.

59:20

I forgot he said that too.

59:21

Yeah, the uh, I think the one

59:23

that's fascinatings.

59:24

Going back to you, like your your in tournament question

59:27

is like, you know, see see

59:29

what we talked about, right, does so much with first round leaders.

59:32

I'll be dialing back a little bit that, you

59:34

know, some of my first round betting, which is then

59:36

going to impact me dialing back how

59:38

much kind of in tournament stuff I'm doing simply

59:41

because of because of this weather, And I don't

59:43

know that I'm gonna feel confident enough by

59:46

Wednesday night to really I mean,

59:48

we'll see stuff changes and there might be a window

59:51

there where you actually do think, uh, there's

59:53

some groups that have a really big advantage. But

59:55

we're sitting here on Tuesday morn late

59:58

morning right now, and Thursday it looks

1:00:00

like it could be a complete wash out from start

1:00:02

to finish.

1:00:02

Oh you pointed it out last year, like what if it just completely

1:00:05

gets a limit.

1:00:05

And that there's that right west, Like I know,

1:00:08

we try to talk about these weather windows, but like there's

1:00:10

a lot of times it's just a wash out and

1:00:12

everybody gets pushed back, so you

1:00:14

sometimes bet. You know, golf betters

1:00:16

can outthink themselves sometimes when

1:00:19

they try to look for those advantages. So I'll

1:00:22

tell you if it's if it's looking like

1:00:24

it looks right now, I can't imagine I'm

1:00:26

gonna have much much invested on

1:00:28

Thursday outside of my

1:00:30

top guys like c Us mentioned,

1:00:32

like, I'll still bet Decky first round leader

1:00:35

because I'm loaded up on him so heavily already.

1:00:37

H but honestly, that could be it. That

1:00:40

might be it for first round.

1:00:41

Did we have a master's that ever went to Monday? Didn't

1:00:43

we?

1:00:44

Oh? Yeah, yeah, we've had We've had it a couple.

1:00:46

Yeah, yeah, I thought so. Okay, listen,

1:00:50

appreciate it from both of you guys. I

1:00:52

hope that gave some folks some food for thought.

1:00:54

And I asked that last question not to like embarrass

1:00:56

you guys if those guys end up being at the top, but

1:00:59

just to let other folks know what you guys are thinking

1:01:01

in terms of if you have the instinct to bet

1:01:03

Bryson to Shamba, well, these guys might not still

1:01:05

even if he's playing well. Phil Mickelson

1:01:08

might be in that same category.

1:01:09

The last note I'll add on Brooks like, there's also like

1:01:12

this is live Betting's live betting doesn't matter

1:01:14

what sport, right, I can say

1:01:16

it's really easy for me to sit here on a Tuesday

1:01:19

and say I would love to grab Scheffler Ram

1:01:21

or Brooks live. Yeah, but of course I could

1:01:23

be beating myself up on Monday if Brooks

1:01:25

the first round lead and goes wired to

1:01:27

wire to win the damn.

1:01:28

And you might change your mind. And by the way, that's

1:01:30

like from our perspective, like sports

1:01:33

betting one oh one. What what annoys

1:01:35

us most is when

1:01:38

people think we must be beholden

1:01:40

exactly to the picks we make in

1:01:42

the moments that we're doing a show or a podcast,

1:01:44

when in fact we're all live betters too right

1:01:47

the moment they just give a clean example this when the FedEx

1:01:49

Cup happened a few years ago, the three tournament

1:01:52

Arc and I had Koepka Betts and

1:01:55

I talked about keptain Keppa, but there

1:01:57

was a moment on Sunday where I could grab Rory

1:02:00

back to just make sure I didn't lose everything.

1:02:02

And you had to time it perfectly, and

1:02:04

you had to be present and your girlfriend or your wife

1:02:06

couldn't be bothering you, But that's these

1:02:09

are the things that go into all of betting, and so

1:02:12

yeah, I mean, we'll see how it plays out. I

1:02:14

do think though, that the weather point is a

1:02:16

good one, and that you know, also

1:02:18

just for newer golfers, the quickest way to

1:02:21

ruin is not everybody's West Reynolds,

1:02:23

right mere, Mortals don't hit out rights on

1:02:25

a regular basis. So the quickest way to what

1:02:28

we call a betting leak, and I've talked

1:02:30

about this on a numbers game recently, might be golf

1:02:32

outrights. Like if you bet too many of them pre

1:02:34

flop, it's probably a losing proposition,

1:02:37

right Like, Not everybody's going to hit these at a high

1:02:39

rate, so just

1:02:41

be mindful of that. You guys have long

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Shots Live eleven pm tonight Eastern,

1:02:46

eight pm Pacific Wes Kelly

1:02:49

and Matt Brown. The name of the podcast

1:02:51

is called long Shots. Is the live different from

1:02:53

the podcast? Yeah, it would just be reposted.

1:02:55

Oh, just rehost.

1:02:56

So yeah, the show again, not live.

1:03:01

We'll do it.

1:03:02

Live once again, not live,

1:03:04

not be waiting to see us outside of the Circus studio.

1:03:06

At that time, live to tape

1:03:09

there you go live to tape, so we call it in

1:03:11

the biz.

1:03:11

So you mean to tell me you're not doing this podcast

1:03:13

a live podcast and a podcast

1:03:16

podcast is correct? Yes, okay,

1:03:18

long Shots is the name of the podcast. Though they do it every

1:03:20

week and three of them at least when Matt shows

1:03:22

up, they do all three of them. Matt is

1:03:24

at the Masters, so we're all jealous of him, so I'm just spoking

1:03:27

fun good for him. Have you ever been to the Masters? West?

1:03:30

I have not. It's a bucket list item.

1:03:34

Yeah, they don't. They don't like my kind

1:03:36

there, Augusty either. Midwest

1:03:38

Hillbillies.

1:03:39

Yeah, well we don't really like West.

1:03:42

Rentalds coming down here, all

1:03:44

right. Wes Reynolds at Wes Reynolds one. That's

1:03:47

the number one on Twitter. Also the co host

1:03:49

of v sent tonight with Matt Humans what is

1:03:51

that six pm? Is it?

1:03:53

West?

1:03:54

It is?

1:03:54

It is now eight pm

1:03:57

Pacific in AM Eastern

1:04:00

and then and then replay us going

1:04:02

into Mitch and Paul h.

1:04:04

So you guys are on like four or five consecutive

1:04:06

times through the night. Yes, okay, yes, And then

1:04:08

Kelly Bidlin at Kelly Bidlin that's

1:04:10

k E.

1:04:11

L L E.

1:04:11

Y B y D l O

1:04:14

N on Twitter. Uh. He is uh

1:04:16

the producer number nine of a numbers

1:04:19

game week days here

1:04:21

on the network. Really really is my

1:04:23

sidekick, for God's sakes, He's on the air all

1:04:25

the time. In fact, if you Parson out, Kelly

1:04:27

talks more night Uh

1:04:30

and then will say that and what's your what's

1:04:32

your show on the weekend when.

1:04:34

Beds Sunday with Dustin Sweetelson, Yes,

1:04:36

three to seven Eastern.

1:04:38

Thank you, Wes, thank you Kelly. Listening

1:04:40

to long Shots tonight. Good luck with all your

1:04:42

bets. The Adya the Masters from Augusta