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Show Shack, ladies and gentlemen! Hi

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everybody, Chris Gethard here. Welcome to

3:51

Beautiful Anonymous. We're very excited

3:54

to bring you our first show from the Beautiful

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Anonymous event we held a

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couple months back. in Brooklyn,

4:01

man was it a fun time. Everybody

4:03

showed up, past callers,

4:06

people have been listening to the show for years,

4:08

everyone getting to know each other, all kinds of events,

4:10

it was a great time. And of course we did some

4:12

live calls

4:14

as part of that. And I'll

4:16

tell you this call, it fits a mold

4:18

and then it breaks the mold because I

4:21

always love when people have very specific

4:23

professions and they call up and tell us about them. And

4:26

this caller tells us about being a wedding

4:28

planner. And there's so many questions about

4:30

that. And I talk a little bit about what my

4:32

wedding was like. And

4:35

then this wedding planner tells us

4:37

the story of something that happened

4:39

during a wedding that

4:42

is so shocking. And I hate

4:44

to giggle, but it's one of these things where you go, that's

4:46

so dark

4:47

and so unexpected that

4:49

what else can I do except laugh

4:52

in shock. And we talk all about it. And

4:54

we talk about a lot of other things. And

4:57

it's a really good call. And I'm happy that

4:59

I got to take this call while being

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right there in the room with some of the biggest fans

5:03

of the show. Thank you all so much love

5:05

to all of you.

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Caller, hello. Hello.

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Hi, how's it going? Going

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well, it's so good to talk to you.

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It's really good to talk to you. You're here with me and

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a whole bunch of very kind people in Brooklyn,

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New York at the first ever Beautiful Anonymous.

5:31

Wow,

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that's exciting. It's a privilege.

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I love the podcast, love the show

5:39

and happy to be here. Thanks,

5:42

yeah, I'm psyched you're here. Psyched you're here. I've

5:45

got a good manic energy going. Thank you. Yeah,

5:47

I almost missed the show tonight. I

5:49

fell asleep. I took a New Jersey transit train

5:51

in because I've done well

5:54

in my career, but I still take the trains. And

5:56

I fell asleep and then I woke up and the train just

5:59

wasn't moving.

5:59

the clock and I said, oh no. So

6:02

a lot of the people here tonight watched me

6:05

like running in a panic and then sadly come

6:07

back out for a diet coke at the bar. They all

6:09

saw it.

6:11

We heard the train was late.

6:13

I'm glad the guys hit the streets. Yeah,

6:17

of course. Good old Twitter. Uh-huh,

6:21

uh-huh. Now how are you?

6:23

What's going on? What's up? Doing

6:25

well. Doing well. Well,

6:28

um, I was talking to Anita

6:31

and telling her about

6:33

my years of being

6:37

a wedding planner. Now this was my

6:38

dream job for a good

6:41

while before I took it and I spent over 12

6:44

years in this industry and I have a

6:47

few of, a few really good

6:49

stories. Okay. But one I thought that

6:51

I would share with you if that's

6:54

okay. I don't know. I'm all ears. What

6:56

do you think? Yeah, I'm down. Let's do it. Imagine

6:58

if I was like, nah, what

7:01

else do you guys, all of a sudden after seven

7:03

years, I was like, man, no,

7:05

that sounds, I bet you've seen a lot of humanity right

7:07

up close.

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I sure have lots of, uh,

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you know, family dynamics that

7:14

play into weddings and

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lots of, you know, drama,

7:18

uh, but just really,

7:21

really beautiful people that just

7:23

want to get married and their families support

7:25

them. And we, you know, we

7:27

did our best. My company did our

7:30

best to make it just the best day

7:32

and the best, uh, beginning

7:34

to their marriage.

7:36

Uh,

7:37

I met this bride in

7:40

the spring and she wanted a winter

7:42

wedding. So we started

7:44

planning, found her a really

7:46

great venue, uh, within the

7:48

same County and visited

7:51

that venue a couple of times to make plans.

7:53

And I met with the venue owner.

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He

7:56

was

7:57

really good guy, just very like professional.

7:59

stand-up guy

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and

8:03

we made some plans. He

8:05

had plenty of weddings during that year and

8:07

you know November

8:09

came and we were four

8:12

weeks out from the wedding. We met again.

8:14

It's just good guy. We made

8:16

some plans for wedding day and so

8:19

that

8:22

December snowy day was

8:24

her wedding. We showed up at

8:26

the venue, me and my team, to meet

8:29

the venue owner. It was

8:32

about nine o'clock in the morning and he

8:34

was late, over an hour late to

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get us into this to his venue.

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When you kept reiterating

8:41

what a good guy he was.

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I had a sense this was not gonna go well.

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You have a sense, you know. I usually

8:49

can read him pretty well but we

8:51

got in venue. He was a little bit disheveled

8:54

that day, not quite himself

8:57

but still accommodating.

8:59

We

9:00

got in.

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This wedding was

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beautiful. Five

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hours

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we had linens,

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arches, all

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kinds of beautiful decor. So

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for hours and hours we and my

9:16

team and I, we set to work to

9:18

make this room beautiful.

9:21

The

9:23

first little odd thing that I saw was

9:26

this venue owner coming

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up the stairs again and

9:32

again and he's carrying some

9:34

cleaning products and buckets

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and

9:39

just continually doing this

9:40

for hours. So I'm tying bows

9:42

on the back of chairs and

9:44

arranging fresh flowers and putting

9:47

up the catering tables and this guy for

9:49

hours was just doing the same thing.

9:51

I'm intrigued because

9:53

I'm like when he keeps going downstairs

9:56

and coming upstairs I'm instantly thinking cocaine.

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But the

9:59

The fact that he's carrying lots of cleaning products,

10:02

I'm going, not cocaine. Yeah.

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No, I mean, I wish it was just cocaine.

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Wow, OK. That's a

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tease. That's what we call a tease in the business.

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Yeah.

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At this time, my focus

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was on this wedding. I

10:20

lost sight of this venue owner for

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a few hours and

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didn't get to talk to him that night.

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The wedding went off great.

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We

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had a big party. The family was happy.

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The bride and groom went off.

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And

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the

10:43

next day

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was when I found a phone

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call from the

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police department,

10:52

wanted to ask

10:54

me some questions.

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I was going to say dead body,

10:57

but I didn't want to go there too soon. You

11:00

didn't. I didn't either. We're only six minutes

11:02

in.

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You didn't either, did you just say? Yeah.

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It was a fucking dead body. I didn't either. Sorry, Sally.

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It was a dead body? You're right, Chris. You're

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Is that a joke? Or is it for real? Was

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it a murder? I think it might have been a murder.

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It was a fucking dead body. I didn't either. Sorry, Sally.

15:09

It was a dead body? You're right, Chris. You're

15:12

right. This venue

15:14

owner had committed a murder and the reason why

15:16

he was late was he was driving

15:19

the body 80 miles

15:22

away. He stopped at a nearby Walmart

15:24

to buy a white shower curtain so he

15:27

could hide said body. Came

15:30

back to meet me at the venue. Was

15:32

cleaning up the murder scene all day while

15:35

we set up a wedding and

15:37

this bride got married there and

15:41

then the news broke the

15:44

venue owner was arrested

15:47

and has since been

15:49

convicted of murder and is serving a life

15:51

sentence. Caller,

15:54

well done. Well done. Way to shoot

15:57

your shot. You made us wait

15:59

for a little bit.

17:59

Like employee of his and this

18:02

venue owner just didn't want to pay him

18:05

The venue owner he

18:08

said it was self-defense, but there was

18:10

no evidence of of any

18:12

kind of like fight or

18:15

Resistance or anything like that.

18:17

Yeah, and if it's self-defense Oh, you

18:19

don't go through like a mrs Doubtfire

18:22

ask comedy of errors trying to dispose

18:24

of evidence while a wedding's happening you

18:27

call the police Someone tried to kill

18:29

me and then I had to kill them and it's the worst thing that

18:31

ever happened You're not like appearing

18:33

at the top of the steps all sweaty With

18:36

like blood on your tie and like someone

18:38

looks at you and you're like no Like that

18:40

you're not you don't

18:41

I agree. I agree. I mean

18:44

I'm pretty normal. I you're

18:45

semi normal I mean I've

18:47

watched I've listened to the podcast for

18:49

a few months now So but I would agree

18:52

that that's how a normal person would

18:54

react. So Definitely

18:57

You can bash the normal people wouldn't react that

18:59

way. I can speak for the semi-normal Among

19:02

us we wouldn't react that way either.

19:05

Yeah, abnormal

19:08

This guy, you know ran his business

19:11

he was professional Can I just pause

19:13

and ask you why you think I'm semi

19:14

normal? Can I just ask

19:16

what exactly that referred to? I'm not mad.

19:18

I think

19:20

No, I mean what I

19:22

mean by that is I

19:24

get it. Never mind Who am I

19:26

kidding? I know you don't need an explanation Yeah,

19:28

I know You have yeah,

19:30

you're creative you you're cool.

19:33

You have a different Take

19:35

on things Chris and that's why we enjoy it

19:38

Good. I'm glad we did that up. So

19:41

tell me more about this brutal You

19:43

did not you did not need me to say that.

19:45

No, I was just kidding. I was just kidding The

19:47

brute I know that as

19:50

the days rolled out the bride I

19:52

mean a lot a lot of emotion from

19:54

the bride as if that ruined

19:57

her wedding day And I can see

19:59

how that would have

20:00

Put a damper on it, but you know she wanted

20:02

a discount from the venue owner and

20:04

they asked for a discount

20:06

from the murderer Yeah, yeah,

20:09

he was unavailable to give discounts

20:12

so Yeah,

20:17

it do they like go and try to visit

20:19

him at the jail, and he's like I got bigger

20:22

fish to fry right now Maybe

20:24

maybe give you 20% off your next event possibly

20:29

Wow

20:30

Wow yeah, that was my most

20:33

sensational moment as a wedding planner

20:35

absolutely can I have the cake Do you

20:37

remember what their

20:38

wedding song was what their first dance was

20:40

to? I

20:44

Wish I could I bet

20:46

I have that on a spreadsheet somewhere. I'm gonna

20:48

have to look that up someday Chris Please

20:51

do follow up Oh

20:53

many fun. I will what would be some good ones If

20:57

only I want to hear from the crowd if you guys

20:59

have good options on what the wedding song should

21:01

be I want to know also

21:03

oh my goodness, too. It's like I

21:06

Have that oh, no, I shouldn't make jokes

21:08

about it, but there's also a part of me. That's like Was

21:11

there somebody who was just like hey my steak

21:14

knives gone like there's just like people all

21:17

over this wedding

21:18

Yeah Amy

21:21

and the crowd wants to ask if they're still

21:23

married They

21:26

are still married they're

21:28

going on let's see I think

21:31

it's been nine years Kerry

21:35

says did the bride and groom changed their wedding

21:37

hashtag afterward I Hope

21:42

so

21:42

I know the groom

21:45

the groom have much He

21:48

had a better sense of humor

21:50

than the bride Yeah,

21:53

I bet I Mean

21:55

that is the fish a right

21:58

that you know brides gonna overreact

21:59

to a murder on her wedding day. We've all heard that

22:02

all cliche. Ben says those wedding

22:04

venue owners sure make a killing. Kimberly

22:09

Scott is crushing it. Kimberly Scott

22:11

just said something old, something new, someone

22:13

murdered, something

22:14

blue. We got that. These

22:17

are good. No, he says literally

22:19

fuck capitalism. Just had over

22:22

one goddamn paycheck.

22:22

That was all right. Kimberly

22:25

Scott also said we were all hoping for a good call,

22:28

like goddamn, a murder wedding? Sorry,

22:31

I mean, they let me through, Chris. What can I say?

22:34

Anita knows them when she sees

22:36

them.

22:37

Anyway,

22:41

I love it. So then, do

22:44

you like, is that something,

22:47

when you're like interviewing new couples,

22:49

when new couples hear that you're good, do you

22:51

drop the murder story on them or do you just let

22:53

that one go by the way? You

22:54

know, I just let that go

22:56

by. There

22:59

were a couple of brides in my career

23:02

that complained

23:04

about the most minuscule,

23:07

ridiculous things. And there were a couple

23:09

of times I wanted to bring up, well,

23:11

let me tell you about this bride. You

23:13

think it's bad that you left

23:16

your bouquet at home,

23:18

or you think it's bad

23:20

that your ties don't match your

23:24

bridal, your bridesmaid dresses?

23:26

Well, that's okay. Did your cake fall

23:29

over? Yeah, that sucks.

23:31

But let me tell you about this. At

23:33

least no one got murdered. No,

23:36

I mean, it really isn't

23:38

in my resume, Chris. That's

23:40

why, you know, it's anonymous. I

23:43

left the wedding industry.

23:44

You did. So I can talk about it now,

23:47

but you know. Now, we're getting some suggestions.

23:49

Luke says that the

23:52

wedding song should have been every breath you take. Ben

23:56

suggests staying alive. No way.

23:59

I do anything for

24:01

love, but I won't do that. We got

24:04

Miss Murder by AFI out there. We

24:06

got, oh, can the venue

24:09

still be rented? People

24:11

want to know, can you still rent that venue? You know,

24:14

the venue closed. The venue did close.

24:18

I bet it did. There was talk about

24:20

doing a Halloween

24:23

event

24:24

center, but

24:26

I think that I never thought, I

24:29

didn't think that ever got off the ground. Yeah.

24:32

One person was like, this seems tasteless, and

24:34

everybody's like, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're

24:37

right.

24:37

One thing to note,

24:39

this venue was

24:42

not even 20

24:43

yards from the

24:45

police department. I

24:48

have read that. This all happened. I have

24:50

read that there is a phenomenon

24:52

where a lot of the most crime-prone areas

24:55

are close to police stations. I have

24:57

read that. Is that true? Apparently.

25:00

Wow. Chelsea asked a question that I think is interesting.

25:03

It helps us move on from the murder,

25:05

because I'm sure there's more to say. Okay. How,

25:07

because you said you were in the

25:09

wedding business for 13 years.

25:12

Yeah. So how good are

25:14

your instincts as far as when you know, like,

25:17

this is a no-go with this couple. Like,

25:19

I'm meeting them, can't

25:20

do it. How quick do you know? There's

25:25

been a, there's been a few couples where

25:27

I immediately bought this wedding.

25:31

This, this wedding is going to be a pain

25:33

in the ass, but also this marriage is not

25:36

lasting a year. And I can

25:38

tell that in true.

25:41

Well, really it's about how they treat each other,

25:43

you know, in just the, the minor stressful

25:46

moments that they've had thus far

25:49

as an engaged couple, you know, budget,

25:53

in-laws. Those are all things

25:55

that will happen within marriage. And if they can't

25:57

even plan one single week.

25:59

event.

26:01

I'm not saying it's doomed, but they're

26:03

like I said, there's been four or five couples in

26:05

my career where I thought if they stay

26:08

married for five years, I

26:10

will be shocked. And they usually

26:12

divorce within a little while. Do

26:15

you follow other couple?

26:17

Well, I like to stay in touch. I

26:19

really did like to stay in touch with my bride,

26:21

but I would get a fair amount of like birth

26:23

announcements down the road. They

26:26

were friends, but I would often see

26:31

them locally or there

26:33

were a couple of brides that I that hired me

26:36

for their second wedding. So

26:38

I think

26:40

that's what I did. Yeah,

26:41

I really did appreciate

26:45

when they would use me again for a second wedding.

26:47

It was always kind of a joke.

26:49

But how does that conversation go?

26:53

Well, it's usually a phone call. Hey, do you remember

26:55

me? And then I usually do

26:57

after a couple little, you

27:00

know, prompts and

27:03

and then I think, wow, do I want to do this again?

27:05

But you know, usually things worked

27:07

out well if they're calling me.

27:09

But there were times where,

27:11

you know, a really great wedding would

27:14

happen. And I feel like everything went well.

27:16

And then the review comes. And,

27:18

you know, it's terrible. But they say

27:21

nothing during the time of wedding

27:23

planning. But

27:24

it's usually because they have an idea

27:27

in their head of how it should go. But they

27:30

can't convey that. Or they're planning

27:32

their wedding on Pinterest, but they

27:35

can't afford it.

27:36

So they're left just being disappointed

27:38

in something that

27:40

was never going to happen anyway.

27:42

Now, can I describe my wedding

27:44

to you? And you can tell me. Yes, please

27:46

do. Chris, do. And

27:49

I know who you married. So this

27:51

will be good. That

27:53

was more aggressive than you thought it sounded.

27:56

That sounded more aggressive than you thought.

27:58

No, I'm very fascinated. Because

28:00

I want to tell you the circumstances because I got married 2014.

28:04

I want to tell you the circumstances and you can tell

28:06

me where all the mistakes begin. Okay?

28:11

Okay, this is a good year because I was

28:13

in the thick of everything. And

28:16

I'll know the trends. Now what can you

28:18

tell me what state? I know this is anonymous,

28:21

but can you tell me what state you got married

28:23

in? I got married in New York state. Okay.

28:26

I rented or we rented

28:29

a

28:29

summer camp, which I think has become a

28:31

popular thing.

28:33

2014 you can vouch was sort of

28:35

at the beginning of that trend. Yeah?

28:38

Yeah. An earthy,

28:40

rustic. Two

28:43

nights, three days, 200 people,

28:47

no wedding planner.

28:49

The summer camp had never held a wedding before.

28:54

This is my favorite type of wedding. To

28:56

use a venue that is not typically

28:59

a wedding venue.

29:01

And there's some, you know, there's some, uh,

29:04

usually some issues sometimes like with tables,

29:07

chairs, logistics.

29:09

We had all of those amazing. Uh-huh.

29:13

Yeah. Um,

29:16

and how, I mean, how do

29:19

you think your guest, how do you

29:21

think your guests felt about it?

29:23

I think they, how was their experience?

29:25

Well, I'm going to tell you another thing and I'm going to ask

29:28

if you could give me what

29:30

advice you would have offered because,

29:32

and I want to be very, very clear about this.

29:35

Everyone was cool with each other. We were all good,

29:38

but so it was a Jewish summer camp.

29:40

Um, my wife is not Jewish and

29:43

I'm not Jewish. I grew up with, I went to

29:45

a school, my elementary school, a lot

29:47

of Jewish kids grew up. I'm down with

29:49

every, I think if you've listened to the show, you know,

29:51

I'm happy to be hanging out with anybody anytime.

29:55

Especially from this nice younger guy. He

29:57

was really psyched to rent it to us. He's like, this is

29:59

going to be great.

29:59

after maybe like a month or

30:02

so after we signed the contract he calls us he goes so there's

30:04

just a little bit of an issue we

30:06

said what he goes so our

30:08

kitchen is kosher

30:10

and I figured that since you guys aren't Jewish

30:12

it wasn't gonna be an issue but

30:15

there was like a board of directors of the

30:17

camp and they were going over all the events

30:19

and the different things that were camp events and different

30:21

rentals and they said we're having this wedding

30:24

and the board of directors has said that you have

30:26

to maintain very strict kosher rules

30:29

for your wedding and I

30:31

said you know I'm vaguely aware of some of the kosher

30:34

rules but what are the ones that are going to affect us and

30:36

he said well none of the

30:39

appliances in the kitchen can

30:41

be operate you're getting married on the Saturday

30:44

nothing a number of Jewish people

30:46

in the crowd all just started laughing because they see where

30:48

this is going he said we cannot turn

30:50

on any of the appliances in the kitchen until after

30:53

sundown on your wedding

30:55

day we married in late August

30:57

so you know the Sun goes down at 1030 p.m. I had a meeting

31:06

with a rabbi before my wedding before

31:08

my not religious wedding explained

31:11

all the kosher

31:11

lost and then they it's

31:14

funny because I was asking for advice from

31:16

friends of mine who grew up Orthodox

31:19

and who really practiced and I was like

31:21

how can I you know help navigate one friend

31:23

of mine he said to me what you should do

31:25

is you should get a Shabbos goy

31:27

and I said what's that and he

31:30

said well you know like in Orthodox communities

31:32

there's sometimes people were like if you live in an elevator

31:34

building maybe you grab a Christian friend to push the elevator

31:36

building so you can still use the elevator yeah and I

31:39

called the guy who owns the camp and I was like I got

31:41

a solution man we'll just get a Shabbos goy and

31:43

he was like I don't know what that is and like quickly

31:45

got off the phone and then my buddy was like you

31:48

shouldn't have said that to him like

31:50

I said that to you pretty cash you shouldn't

31:52

be tossing around the phrase

31:53

Shabbos goy to a guy

31:56

who works at a pretty conservative sounding

31:58

Jewish facility

31:59

I was like, you should have told me I was going to offend

32:02

someone. So that was not good. We

32:04

had to get a type of wine called mavushal

32:06

wine. Has anyone here ever heard of mavushal wine?

32:09

So you grew up Jewish. You

32:11

can imagine me this wine is what I came

32:13

to understand. It was so many years ago. Apparently

32:15

there is a custom in the kosher faith that

32:18

non-Jewish people shouldn't be handling wine

32:21

because back in the day it could be used in pagan ceremonies.

32:24

So this is especially prepared wine that's boiled

32:27

and prepared in a way. But by all

32:29

accounts, it's not the

32:30

best. And

32:33

we were also told I was

32:35

telling a friend of mine all these things I was filled in on and he

32:37

said, I told him that the rabbi

32:39

told us

32:41

that if there was a salad

32:44

with cheese on it and a fly

32:46

landed on the salad, they would have to throw

32:49

out all the salad because that

32:51

is mixing

32:51

meat and dairy. And

32:53

my buddy just looked at me and he's like, dude, you

32:56

got you're dealing with lettuce checkers. And

32:58

I was like, is that a thing? He's like, that's

33:00

what I call them. Lettuce. They check the lettuce of

33:02

a fly lands on it. So how would you

33:04

navigate a situation if I was to call you up and

33:06

say, I rented a camp, 200

33:09

people, my wife

33:11

and I aren't Jewish. We're trying to be extremely respectful

33:13

of kosher law. We're not totally sure

33:15

how to navigate all of this. Venues

33:18

never held a wedding. What's the advice you

33:20

go into as a professional?

33:23

You hired Jewish caterers. Mm

33:26

hmm. Mm hmm. Keep going. Let's

33:29

keep going. Oh,

33:31

man, this is a tough one. Put

33:34

on your professional hat here. Walk me through

33:36

this. I'll also let you know when the guests started

33:38

arriving, the first cars pulled up. I

33:40

personally was in a tree hanging

33:42

lights. I had climbed a tree and I was like,

33:44

that's my aunt and uncle. Oh, God, that's

33:47

how that's how slap those things

33:49

were.

33:51

Oh, you're going to have you're

33:53

going to need plenty of wine, more wine

33:56

than you think to keep those guests

33:59

happy all weekend.

33:59

Again,

34:02

change your wedding, I don't

34:04

know, have a sunset ceremony.

34:07

OK, I like this. We're starting

34:09

to get where we got. You

34:15

prepare food off site and

34:17

bring it in already prepared.

34:19

We did something close to that. There was a whole bunch

34:21

of food that was prepared early, that was served

34:23

outdoors, out of the facility. I like

34:25

it. You're inching towards all of our solutions. Yep,

34:28

yep, yep. I

34:30

guess you'd have to have

34:32

people watching over that food and be

34:34

like plenty of fly tape hanging up so

34:37

you don't have to be fly-flailing. The

34:38

fly thing was never an issue. They

34:40

told us that. I don't think anybody was actually there.

34:43

We got married outside. We had a

34:45

whole bunch of food prepared earlier in the day. That

34:47

was the outdoor cocktail hour. It

34:50

was so adorable. All the people

34:52

in the kitchen, it was like a NASCAR

34:55

pit crew. Like when you know the car pulls

34:57

in and they're like, as

35:00

soon as the sun went down, they were like, go time.

35:03

And it was just like wedding was on. And

35:06

they stepped up and it was awesome. And also my

35:08

wife entered our wedding on a zip line and it was fucking

35:10

cool.

35:15

Pause there. I think you guys

35:17

have probably noticed throughout the show's history

35:19

that I think my wife is

35:22

cool. I really do. Anyway,

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That's all the ads. Let's finish off

36:34

the phone call.

36:37

As soon as the sun went down, they were

36:39

like, go time. And it was just like

36:41

wedding was on. And they stepped

36:43

up. And it was awesome. And also my wife entered

36:46

our wedding on a zipline and it was fucking cool.

36:49

Are

36:49

you? Oh, that is amazing. I

36:53

love stuff like that. That was the best.

36:55

The best brides and grooms were just willing

36:57

to, you know,

37:00

just take the curves,

37:02

the curve balls that come, you know, rainstorms

37:04

and wind and drunken

37:08

bridesmaids and groomsmen and forgotten

37:11

pillows. And, you know, you just have to roll

37:14

with it because that is

37:16

life. And that was

37:17

the best bride and grooms that I've worked

37:19

with were of that

37:21

caliber. Just knowing

37:23

it's just one day in their life, but

37:26

that things are going to happen that things are going to happen. And

37:28

sometimes things, even a murder will make

37:30

it more memorable. But zip lines

37:32

sound better. Eliana is asking

37:34

if you've ever seen a runaway bride or groom

37:36

situation. I've

37:39

had many in my career. Yeah,

37:44

I've had,

37:45

I think it was six times

37:48

someone called off the wedding

37:49

day. Most of them were called off

37:53

the night before. I think four

37:55

out of the six were called off the night before.

38:00

Two, two brides, two grooms

38:02

the night before, but the two on

38:04

the day of were both grooms that

38:07

just did not show up to the

38:09

venue and then called their mommies. And

38:12

so their moms had to come and

38:14

whisper to me

38:16

and then I go find the bride, find the bride's

38:19

mom. You have

38:21

to do it? Let them,

38:23

well, it's what they,

38:26

they pay me for to handle any of those

38:28

little mishaps during the

38:30

wedding. Those little mishaps? Well,

38:34

do you think the groom's mom wants to come talk

38:36

to the bride's mom? Nobody does,

38:38

but for you to just be like, that's

38:39

why they pay me to handle the little mishaps.

38:42

I'm like, oh, I would trust you in all hostage

38:44

negotiation with that attitude. You're

38:48

like John McClain in Die Hard on

38:50

that

38:50

one. Little mishaps. Oh

38:52

yeah, not emotional. Just

38:55

coming over with a plan.

38:58

This is what's happening. This is what

39:00

we can do. Here are some ideas.

39:04

I'll give you a minute and then I'll come back

39:07

and we'll figure out what to do about guests

39:09

and food and booze

39:11

and transportation.

39:13

That was

39:16

not my favorite part of my job. You

39:19

know, it's a sensational part for us to all

39:21

go, ooh, but I imagine a lot of pain for

39:23

you. I do have to ask, with the two that

39:25

you saw where it was day of, are they

39:27

just like called off, everybody go home, or

39:29

is there anybody that's like, screw this, we're

39:31

having a party?

39:34

So the two that were day of, no, they peaced

39:36

out. They wanted everyone to leave.

39:39

We donated food to a food bank.

39:41

They left all their gifts there for,

39:44

I think the groom's parents had

39:46

to take care of that. I remember them loading

39:49

them in their truck.

39:50

But one of the brides

39:52

the night before decided to

39:55

still have her wedding. Cause you know, at this point

39:57

there's no refund. But then it's not

39:59

gonna give you refunds. You've already bought the booze,

40:01

the caterers. You're at the point of no

40:04

return. You can't get your money back. And

40:06

this bride invited, she

40:09

probably doubled the guest list to come.

40:12

They had a band. They,

40:14

she carried on, she wasn't there the

40:16

whole time, but she was a pretty

40:19

good sport about it. Got pretty

40:21

freaking drunk. And,

40:24

you know, she handled it well. She

40:27

gave a speech.

40:31

And she was actually

40:33

pretty kindhearted to her groom, but called

40:35

him a chicken shit.

40:37

Yeah, that sounds like taking

40:39

it easy at the end of the day. Have you

40:41

ever seen somebody object? Have you ever seen anybody

40:43

actually object at a wedding?

40:46

Never. Never. I've never seen that.

40:49

That's good. I've seen plenty of grooms cry as

40:51

soon as they see their beautiful bride.

40:54

I've seen a couple of

40:56

brides dads cry because

41:00

they didn't want their girls to get married.

41:03

I've

41:04

seen bridesmaids fight.

41:07

I've seen, one of

41:09

my weddings I had to,

41:11

so

41:12

bride's parents were divorced

41:15

and had restraining orders against

41:17

each other. So our wedding

41:19

planning had to happen

41:22

in a pretty large room, larger than my office.

41:25

And it was the bride,

41:28

her parents, his mom, her mom,

41:32

the groom, his mom, and

41:34

a court mediator. Someone from the court,

41:36

like a bailiff or something that

41:38

could handle them

41:41

being in the same room. It had to basically,

41:43

they needed a babysitter that

41:46

was court appointed. And

41:48

that wedding planning was hell. I've

41:51

never wanted to tell a bride and groom to

41:53

go elope.

41:55

And not pay me, don't

41:58

buy flowers or food.

42:00

just go get married until that

42:02

sweet bride and groom, because that

42:04

was hell trying to get them the

42:07

wedding day. So the day of the wedding,

42:09

the reception, we had to count off,

42:11

I

42:12

think it was 50

42:13

yards away. So

42:16

we have the bride, oh yeah, the bride's

42:19

mom with her husband

42:22

and the bride's dad and his wife

42:24

and parents on either

42:27

side of this huge yard. In

42:29

fact, they were across the pool, the swimming pool

42:31

from each other. And we had to logistically

42:35

make sure that the bride's dad came

42:37

in from the backyard so that they couldn't

42:39

cross, they wouldn't cross paths or get close.

42:42

And is there like a marshal

42:44

or like a sheriff on hand where if anybody crosses

42:46

over, somebody gets arrested?

42:49

Not for the

42:52

wedding itself, but like I said, there was for

42:54

any of the wedding planning when they had to be in the same

42:56

room. So they promised to

42:58

be

42:59

on their best behavior

43:02

and they were pretty good, but man, you could

43:04

just cut the tension with a knife at that

43:06

wedding. That was bad news

43:08

anyway.

43:09

And then it comes to you and they're like,

43:11

help us play it, your job is

43:13

to make this happen. Oh yeah,

43:16

oh yeah, it was literally part of mine and

43:19

my team's job to make sure

43:21

that the bride's

43:22

mom went to the buffet table and

43:24

then

43:25

once she was seated, then the dad went

43:27

to the buffet table, it was fucking ridiculous

43:29

actually. Wow,

43:32

now you said you're out of the game.

43:34

I am, I'm curious what you do

43:36

now and I'm hoping you're like, oh, I'm a professional MMA

43:39

fighter with your, cause

43:41

you have such a chill

43:41

answer. You know what I do now, Chris? What do you

43:44

do now? I say years

43:46

in that industry and loved it. I

43:49

was a florist, designer, stylist

43:52

for all those beautiful weddings. And then I now

43:55

develop.

43:59

up recipes and

44:03

it's such a fantastic career

44:05

for me. I've slowed down a little bit

44:07

and it's just

44:10

I couldn't be happier with what I do for work now.

44:12

I love I loved my career

44:15

in the wedding industry. It has

44:17

a life of its own and

44:20

there's a good there's a reason wedding planners

44:22

get paid a lot because they

44:24

deal with all kinds of stuff

44:27

even if there's not a murder.

44:29

Before we close out

44:31

the wedding I love it. I want to hear about some recipes.

44:33

Yeah. If you had some big like because

44:36

now that you're out of the game you don't need to keep

44:38

these things proprietary. Are there you

44:41

know one, two, three

44:43

things that you go and here's here's the

44:45

two or three things that if you do these it's just

44:47

gonna make everything easier and better. Are there any

44:49

basic tips you have?

44:51

For your for your wedding catering? For

44:54

wedding, your wedding in general. Yeah. Is that what you're asking?

44:56

Yeah.

44:57

You know I would say

45:01

plan with personality

45:03

in mind because there's so many

45:05

cookie cutters what cookie cutter weddings

45:08

out there and if you if

45:10

you plan with you know your

45:12

your courtship or your individual

45:15

personalities or like your joint

45:18

adventures and you infuse that

45:20

in your wedding it will be I

45:23

mean it's

45:25

a part of you as a couple but why

45:27

not extend that to your guests? It

45:29

will be so much more meaningful and

45:32

it you know whatever it is. I've had brides

45:35

come in on horses and I've had I've

45:38

had

45:40

you know skiers

45:41

or snowboarders that

45:43

met at a ski resort

45:45

and and so they their whole theme

45:47

was with snow and

45:50

you know as cheesy as those things might be

45:53

those are like

45:54

let's celebrate

45:55

individuality and and

45:58

the things that we love in people and why

46:00

not be,

46:01

why not bring it to a wedding day? Even

46:04

if it's minor, even if it's the only thing, if

46:06

you know and not all your guests. But

46:09

I would say that, and I would also say,

46:12

don't go into debt for your wedding.

46:14

Save

46:16

money, but do something that

46:18

you can walk away from and just be very

46:21

glad you did it, and it doesn't

46:23

cause you pain later. You'll

46:25

be glad to hear there was a very low level

46:29

spread out grown in South Brooklyn. You

46:31

said, don't go into debt over a wedding, and

46:33

I just heard all of South Brooklyn just went, ugh.

46:39

Thousands of voices cried out.

46:43

Yeah, and it's a tough thing. Not everyone

46:45

has support from family to do so, but

46:49

I don't know, those are my two things. I

46:52

think,

46:53

I don't know.

46:55

I've mellowed over the years. I've

46:58

also said photography

47:00

is really important, videography, because those

47:02

are the things that stay.

47:04

They have staying

47:06

power, and you're gonna show your posterity

47:09

pictures and things like that. But

47:12

really, you just want good feelings

47:15

there. You want people to just

47:17

really be glad that they

47:19

were at your wedding and

47:21

to experience that.

47:24

That's what I, that's all. It's not very

47:26

much. It's not media

47:28

advice, but meaningful. So

47:30

you design recipes now. So

47:33

are you a chef? Because I would think that's the

47:35

domain of a chef.

47:37

Yeah, I mean, in the

47:40

wedding industry, and I

47:42

went from wedding planning freelance

47:45

to owning my own venue, which

47:48

brought in catering services,

47:50

and so

47:51

I got trained by really great,

47:54

chef, and I

47:57

focused on catering. wedding

48:00

catering and event catering, but

48:03

really at the core, I've

48:05

always been a foodie and like

48:07

been an excellent like home cook. And

48:10

so this just elevated some of

48:13

my skills and working,

48:16

having a catering company for 10 of those

48:19

years. And that was really half

48:21

my revenue. We

48:24

made some great food for weddings. And

48:27

that just kind of translated into like

48:29

doing my own blogs and

48:31

my own like working on my own cookbook. And

48:35

then it just kind of fell to where I'm

48:37

working in like events

48:40

in corporate events, and then

48:42

shifting gears and moving to marketing

48:44

and then really doing what I want to do. And that

48:46

is to develop recipes and write about

48:49

food.

48:49

That's cool. You sound like somebody who's

48:52

gone out and gotten it for yourself. You

48:54

sound like somebody who develops a plan and executes

48:56

the plan. No,

48:58

no, I don't know that that's me. The

49:01

only thing I would say is me is I've

49:04

just always been willing to do things before

49:07

I've been perfect at them.

49:08

And you know, you can

49:11

say I wing it. You can say

49:13

I fake it till I make it.

49:15

I don't know if those are accurate, but really it's

49:18

just I've been willing to learn

49:20

as I

49:21

actually am in the

49:23

industry.

49:24

Are you

49:25

married? That's how we become experienced. Sorry, am

49:27

I

49:27

what? Sorry to interrupt you. I just realized

49:29

I never asked. Are you married?

49:31

I am married.

49:33

Heck yeah. Did you hire a

49:35

wedding planner for your wedding? I believe in marriage. I

49:38

did not. This is funny. So

49:41

I was

49:42

married. I

49:45

got married in, you know, 80s. And

49:48

then I was divorced for seven years.

49:51

And then I got remarried two years ago. I

49:54

did not use a wedding planner. I used

49:56

a wedding coordinator, which the difference

49:58

is a planner would help you. you budget

50:01

and design and plan vendors,

50:03

et cetera. A coordinator on

50:06

the day would help you with timing and

50:08

like logistics of music, et cetera. So I used

50:11

a coordinator, but heck Chris, I've

50:13

had my favorite vendors in my pocket for

50:16

a decade. So as

50:18

soon as I knew I was getting married, it took

50:20

me three or four calls and my wedding was planned.

50:23

Do you know you have like a very sweet

50:25

tone and cadence, but every

50:28

once in a while you say things. I'll

50:30

tell you I'm married and you'll be like, oh yeah, I know who you're

50:32

married to and it's chilling. And

50:34

right there you said, I've had my favorite vendors in

50:36

my pocket for a decade

50:38

and you sound like a mafia boss

50:40

when you say stuff like that. You

50:42

have like a very sweet Midwestern

50:45

vibe, but then you also can say stuff

50:48

that sounds scary too.

50:49

No, what it

50:52

is is I have the

50:53

most amazing friends, support

50:56

group, husband who is

50:58

dreamy as can be, kids,

51:01

grandkids, all of those

51:04

just, you know.

51:05

If anyone crushes me, I

51:07

crushes me, I crush them like a bug. And

51:10

if you cross me, you'll die in the gutter where

51:12

you pull on. No,

51:16

never, but yeah. That

51:19

made it sound more real. Yeah,

51:24

oh my gosh, you're the best.

51:26

That's what you say to all the

51:28

people who accuse you of being scary. I

51:30

don't know, it's authentic,

51:34

it's real. I

51:38

don't sugar coat things anymore. I think I did

51:40

in my past

51:41

and I was a fairly good wedding planner to

51:43

kind of smooth things over. I

51:45

don't know, I'd probably be worse at it now.

51:48

I'd probably be more outspoken and

51:51

a little less

51:53

placating.

51:55

That's fair. That's good, I did that

51:57

when I was younger. Yeah, I

51:59

think we get.

51:59

I think we get smarter, wiser.

52:01

There's some people offering up their

52:04

own advice. Sarah says,

52:06

advice for brides. Don't marry the guy

52:08

if you think you might possibly be gay. You probably

52:10

are. Maybe that's just me, though. LOL. Sounds

52:14

like, Sarah, you've got a future phone call on this

52:16

show, whatever you want.

52:20

That is funny. Well,

52:23

I

52:24

do have

52:26

something else I want to talk to you,

52:28

Chris. If you're up for it. Yeah,

52:30

I've got nothing else to do. Yeah, I'm

52:33

into it. Well, you know, I was talking about just, I was

52:35

talking about friends that just like support

52:38

and just do such a good

52:40

job of like

52:41

being your best cheerleaders. And I mean, it's family

52:43

and friends and all of that. But

52:48

years ago, I met someone at work. And

52:50

this person has just, he

52:53

was such a good friend right

52:56

from the get go. We were mostly professional

52:58

friends. But you know how work friends are. You kind

53:00

of just miss them when you're

53:02

not with them. And then

53:05

she went on to do some other great things.

53:08

And then I really missed her. And so we've

53:10

just become really good friends. But this

53:12

friend, she did

53:15

an experiment a couple of years ago.

53:17

And I think about it a lot. And I've actually

53:19

shared it with my children and other

53:21

friends. And that is, she took a year

53:24

to try

53:25

to fail at things.

53:27

She

53:30

just was boldly doing

53:32

things with the intent

53:34

to fail. Are

53:37

you telling me that you got here

53:39

via my nemesis?

53:43

Damn straight, Chris. Are

53:45

you really revealing this with 15 minutes

53:48

left? Is the nemesis

53:50

in the room right now? Because I know she's in town for the weekend.

53:54

Where is she? Why do

53:56

you keep playing with my head like this? You

53:59

know? Parade girl?

54:01

Are we at the right place? Oh

54:03

my goodness I feel manipulated yet

54:05

again. So for anybody who hasn't been

54:07

listening to the show recently, and this

54:09

is real caller, so there's a... she

54:12

called and talked about how she likes to fail and she

54:14

keeps figuring out how to get her friends on the show

54:16

too.

54:17

And caller are you right now telling me that you

54:19

are yet another in the lineage on

54:21

the Parade Girl family tree? Well

54:25

yeah I mean I think

54:28

you could say proverbial tree

54:31

but what I'm saying is the biggest

54:33

lesson here is that

54:35

our influence is

54:37

so much more beyond what we

54:40

think we we're doing. We... you're

54:42

gonna have to give me a second to

54:45

process this because I'm not

54:47

lying every time this happens

54:48

it throws me for

54:51

a loop every single time.

54:53

I feel like when Bart Simpson used to prank the

54:56

bar and the bar owner could never figure

54:58

it out when he'd be like is Al there?

55:00

Al who?

55:00

Caholic. alcoholic here? Like

55:03

I feel like that every time I find out that

55:05

it's a Parade Girl plant that's been

55:08

inserted into the show. Oh he sends

55:10

me for the... Parade girl. Parade

55:13

girl. The thing is is I mean

55:15

yes Parade Girl is like

55:17

one one hundredth of who she is but do

55:19

you know who this person is? No!

55:24

Like she is... you should

55:26

explore in depth who this

55:28

person is even

55:30

more than you are because that's so scary

55:33

again. That's the next thing you

55:35

should know more about this person. Explore

55:37

her. You should. No she she's

55:41

you know we are many

55:43

years apart but she's one

55:48

of my best friends she's in the audience right

55:50

there you know. I know she is should I bring her up

55:52

on stage you want to talk to her? We

55:54

should absolutely bring her up. I want to talk to her.

55:57

My nemesis I'm finally meeting my nemesis

55:59

face down.

56:00

I thought this was happening tomorrow. Hello

56:07

to my nemesis. My nemesis is here.

56:10

Hello? Okay. So there's so much. So

56:13

my wedding planner friend, you've now arranged

56:16

it where my nemesis is on stage with me. We're

56:19

waiting on a mic. I'm clearly

56:20

killing time as this happens. This is

56:23

the last one. This is the last one.

56:26

So you've been building this up

56:28

until this moment and it all built to this? I

56:31

just don't want to keep freaking you out. At some

56:35

point it gets weird, right? Well,

56:37

you know when it got weirdest for me. Do we want to reveal

56:39

it to the crowd? Was it when

56:42

I weirdly said I love you? No,

56:44

that I can handle. It was when you emailed me. And

56:48

I was like, how did you get my email address?

56:51

And you were like, don't worry, dude, it's all good.

56:53

I mean, I'm not going to say what it

56:55

is, but it's an obvious, like it's an obvious email

56:57

address. I thought it was, I

56:59

thought it was, I thought it's pretty

57:01

hard to guess personally. Hey,

57:04

Chris, can you hear me? Yes.

57:07

Don't be out in people and say their names. You

57:10

said it. That one episode you said it and

57:12

you didn't bleep it every time. Oh really?

57:14

So you're mad at me. Yes. Yes.

57:17

Because one of the times it

57:19

was not bleeped. So people have probably heard my name before.

57:22

Oh no. But it's okay. It's my dad. It's okay.

57:24

Well, I guess I'm sorry I said your

57:26

name once and we missed the bleep. And then on my end,

57:29

I guess I'll just say that I've been feeling

57:31

like there's been some real emotional manipulation here

57:33

that's been throwing me for a loop since last August. So

57:35

we'll just call

57:36

it even. Emotional manipulation.

57:38

No, I'm kidding. I've loved it. So

57:41

yes, caller, what do I need to know about this person

57:43

standing on stage with me right now, who I have referred to

57:45

many times as my nemesis?

57:46

No, she's I call it a gift. Right?

57:50

It's a gift. It was a gift because

57:52

every year. This is a gift. Here's

57:54

all that. Okay. Oh

57:57

my goodness. You have

57:58

your own merch? These

58:00

are all your calls. Hold on,

58:02

I'm not gonna reach, succeeding

58:04

and failing, that's you. Could you beat a raccoon

58:07

in a fight? That's you. Gay zombies, I

58:09

had a feeling. That's who you got my email address from,

58:11

right?

58:11

Library boy! Whoa!

58:16

Saving feet and saving lives. And

58:18

this one?

58:22

How did you call it? I wasn't. No,

58:24

we screamed this call. I wasn't sure, I wasn't

58:26

sure, okay. How did you do it? How do you

58:29

do this? You have a t-shirt

58:31

that called your shot that this would

58:33

be happening. This doesn't make

58:35

any fucking sense. To

58:39

be fair, I made two shirts in case somebody

58:42

didn't get on this one. It's

58:44

just called being prepared. Okay, here's

58:46

the thing though. You said that there

58:48

would be a new number emailed

58:51

out. And so we're walking here and I was like,

58:53

well, I guess like it's for charity. So

58:55

I shouldn't try and like hijack a thing

58:57

for charity. But, okay, so here's

58:59

the story.

59:01

How much time do we have? Eight minutes.

59:03

Eight minutes. Okay, so I

59:06

called in at the Edinburgh

59:08

French Festival. You were doing four days in a row.

59:10

So I set an alarm for every day because I was

59:12

like, I'm gonna try to call into this podcast because

59:15

I don't know. I'd started listening to it and I was like, when

59:17

I wanna do things, I set alarms

59:19

because I forget otherwise. And so,

59:21

so then the next day

59:24

I was talking to my friend who

59:27

has raccoons, fighting raccoons. And

59:32

I was like, oh, you know what? I bet it's

59:34

gonna be, the tweet is gonna go out

59:36

again soon because it's about that time. And

59:38

so she got on and I was there.

59:40

And during that episode, you said, so

59:43

what, you're just gonna get all your friends on?

59:45

You took it as a goddamn

59:47

challenge. So

59:49

in my mind, that's your villain origin story. And

59:51

in your mind, that's your hero origin story.

59:54

Call me what you will, call me whatever

59:56

you will. That's where the beautiful anonymous audience is.

59:58

I cannot believe you're wearing. a shirt that says,

1:00:01

and this one. Yeah,

1:00:03

that's a little egotistical of me.

1:00:07

So then the next call,

1:00:09

the next call was gay zombies. And

1:00:12

well, no. So you said that as

1:00:14

soon as you said what, you're going to get all your friends on, I started

1:00:16

texting a bunch of people because there was one more day

1:00:18

of the Fringe Festival. So I was like immediately

1:00:20

texting everybody, what are you doing tomorrow? And

1:00:22

it was like a Sunday morning, our time.

1:00:24

So nobody was doing anything. So I had seven

1:00:27

people in my living room trying to call

1:00:29

in. So you

1:00:31

gather, that's how you do it. You gather, you

1:00:34

make parties out of it? That's what

1:00:36

you would think. Let's dominate this nerd? That's

1:00:38

what you would think. So that happened, that

1:00:40

was one of the times. But

1:00:42

other times. And then the community came together and helped fund

1:00:44

the Kickstarter. So I'm glad that would happen. Yes,

1:00:46

and again, we did not, like, we were

1:00:49

not trying to do any of that because Jace

1:00:51

or zombies. We all know his name. Oh

1:00:53

yeah, Jace, everybody. He has a Kickstarter.

1:00:56

So Jace starts telling

1:00:59

this really beautiful story. And

1:01:01

I'm texting him like, oh my gosh, do not mention

1:01:03

this dumb joke thing that I'm doing.

1:01:06

Because he was bearing his soul about his

1:01:09

beautiful feelings. And I'm like, do not mention me.

1:01:11

This is going to

1:01:12

ruin the whole episode. Because rule

1:01:14

of threes, I was going to do it three times. It was

1:01:16

a good joke. But then Jace's episode

1:01:19

was too good. So I was like, and

1:01:22

then at that point, you're like, well, I've done it three times. And

1:01:25

also Jace's. Might as well do

1:01:27

it. One, two, three, four,

1:01:29

five, six, seven. Seven total. And also

1:01:33

Jace's episode, somebody

1:01:35

else was supposed to be on. And the call dropped.

1:01:38

And they came back

1:01:40

to Jace. And that's when I was like, oh,

1:01:43

the universe is on my side. Because it wasn't

1:01:46

supposed to be him. It wasn't supposed to be him. Like, none

1:01:48

of it. That time, I had the most people. Nobody

1:01:50

got through the first time. And then

1:01:53

I think Andrea came back and was like,

1:01:56

the other call dropped, can you get on real fast to

1:01:58

Jace? So like.

1:03:53

and

1:04:00

he wrote back during the episode, it was a really

1:04:02

lovely moment, and that

1:04:04

was that, so I texted him yesterday.

1:04:06

And, yes. And I said, so

1:04:09

I saw some footage of him, he was at the Knicks game,

1:04:12

and before the game, I don't know if any of you guys saw it, he

1:04:14

shot a, he hit a three-pointer, that

1:04:16

he was out there on the court.

1:04:18

I've played basketball with him, that's how I, between

1:04:20

comedy, but also just playing basketball, so I texted him,

1:04:22

I said, hey sir, you looked good hitting

1:04:25

that three at MSG, wasn't surprised. Also,

1:04:27

if you're in New York City and bored this weekend,

1:04:29

I'm having a weekend-long fan convention from my podcast.

1:04:32

The girl I reached out to you about will be there if you

1:04:35

want to blow her mind. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome,

1:04:37

no, nothing. Imagine, imagine.

1:04:39

Then I also said, she's out here

1:04:42

bragging, because I saw your TikTok, where

1:04:44

you tagged me, and it's you with the clip

1:04:46

of Sudeikas, and you being like, oh, so I guess

1:04:48

I did connect with Sudeikas. Again, you say bragging, I

1:04:51

say promoting your podcast. I said, she's out here bragging.

1:04:53

He said, ah thanks man, regarding

1:04:56

the jumper at MSG, I'm just glad it happened in front

1:04:58

of my son, and I didn't tweak my Roke Tatercuff or

1:05:00

some other old man bullshiz. Read

1:05:02

this weekend, oof, I mean, I would

1:05:04

if I could, but I'm in LA, AKA the

1:05:07

city of angles, am I right? I'm

1:05:09

sorry to miss out, because we could have set up a wee

1:05:11

bowling game and finally wrapped up this dangling,

1:05:14

star-crossed bowler storyline,

1:05:17

perhaps in the future, unless bowling

1:05:19

becomes illegal, that is. Thanks for the

1:05:21

invite though, I hope all

1:05:21

is well in your neck of the woods. Woods meaning

1:05:23

earth. What's he? Well,

1:05:26

that's funny,

1:05:26

because I have a surprise for you guys. Oh

1:05:28

no. Oh,

1:05:31

you got me a bowler.