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My guest today is Colin

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Kingsmill . Colin was born

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in Canada and raised between the Gulf

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Islands of British Columbia and

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the Swiss Alps . He lived , worked

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, fell and got back

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up again globally , from Bora

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Bora and Beverly Hills to Montenegro

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, serbia , london , tuscany

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and the Indian Ocean , thailand

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and everywhere in between . The

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first parts of his career was in

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Swiss banking . He did it for 10 years

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investment firm until

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he broke in 2021 . After having ticked

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all the boxes of success An

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MBA in finance and marketing , marriage

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, entrepreneurship , christmas

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in St Morantz and Easter

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in Saint Tropez the

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kind of stuff you get the picture . In

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2021 , he gave everything

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he owned away and moved back to Vancouver

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to start fresh . These days

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, he's focusing on a few things being

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the board advisor of Alma de

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Samaya , a

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human-centric real estate

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development in the Dominican Republic . Co-founder

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of human whole human coaching

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there they are on a mission

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to bring humanity back to the workplace . Owner

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of Colin Kingsmill

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Coaching for Private Coaching If

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you're a CEO , founder or an entrepreneur

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. Owner of Insight Incorporation

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, focused on purpose-driven real estate and

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design projects . Welcome

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, colin , to the podcast . Well

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, it's so good to have , colin . How are you doing , dave Colin

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?

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Yeah , I'm doing really well . Thank you , Keith . How

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are you ?

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doing ? I am waiting for the snowstorm

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that's about to hit , so I am a

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little hesitant about how happy I'm going to be in

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about 14 hours .

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You're all ready for it ? I hope I'm sure we will

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be .

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I'd love to ask my guest this question to kind of get

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a chance to get to know you a little bit better . And the audience

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introduced yourself what's the best

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piece of advice you ever received ?

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Good question . I'm pretty sure

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it would be to learn how to meditate

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and to be more mindful . Now

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, have I listened to that advice ever

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since I was , though that's a different question , though , right that's

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a different question . Yeah

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, that is the best place to start .

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So I look at your bio . You've had a really interesting

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career . You've spanned a lot of different

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genres , a lot of different things you've done

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. I'm just curious , along the

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way , who are some people who serve as

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an inspiration in your life ?

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Oh my gosh , there's so many

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. Probably going to have to go from

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the latest to the oldest . Okay , certainly

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somebody like Gabor Mate , who

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just wrote that book called the

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Myth of Normal . I

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think he is an inspiration to me and he has been

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for about 20 years , ever since he

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created or wrote that book called

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when the Body Says no . So

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I think he's brilliant and I'm glad that

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I intersected with him and

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get to read his work . Another

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one , more recent , would be

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a coach

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called Martha Beck , and

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Martha Beck recently wrote a book called

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the Wave Integrity , and

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it's all about living an authentic

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life , but living your sort of true

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, authentic life . So I

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thought I found that very

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inspirational at kind of a

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key , pivot moment in my life

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. And then the classics for me are

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people like Eckhart Tolle , with

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the power of now and all the work that he's done

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and is doing . People like

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Joe Dispenso , who are sort

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of bridging ancient

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wisdom and modern science . And

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, gosh , there's so many . I could

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spend the hour speaking to you about people

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that I find inspiring

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and people

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like you who are out there working

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to make the world a better place . So

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I think we all have our part in

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that play .

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I appreciate it . It's interesting because you think about

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the people and when they intersect in your life

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and how those intersections

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can change your direction , refine

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your direction , hone your

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purpose in life . I

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remember a couple years back ten years back or

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so ran across a workshop

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about finding your purpose and

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I was doing okay in ministry . But

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it became really clear as I sat down

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and looked at what my purpose was supposed to be that

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my life was going to take a dramatic turn from where I had

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been going and I still

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to this day remember defining

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that purpose as kind of clarified what

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the next phase of my life was supposed

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to be . So yeah , those people in those

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moments stand out because they do have

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such impact on us .

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Well , yeah , I mean I think you can . There

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are people that are helping us change the world

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and they can help you pivot right

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, and so often

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we get stuck in our ways and our

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beliefs and our stories and

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things like that . So anybody

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that can help us pivot out of that

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should be celebrated because

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they are life changing right . I mean , there's other people , like

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I said . I could go down the list

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of people that have had a massive

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impact on me personally over

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the years .

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What's also needed about that is that the fact you're a coach

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because at different points in

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my life I've always hired a coach

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. Sometimes it was just because I wanted clarity

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. Sometimes it was kind of like there's something

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some place that you talk about . I'm just like you were stuck

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and you wanted to get beyond that stuckness . But

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I found that coaches are invaluable

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to if they do it well . I've

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had a couple coaches who I end up coaching

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them when they're supposed to be coaching me , but

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when they do it well , it's drawing

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out of you what

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the next phase of life is .

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Right , right , I mean I think those

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are the best conversations , right between coaches

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or not . Those are the best conversations

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that you can have with coaches when it's

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not a kind of one way broadcast

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right or

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it's not letting you sort

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of straggle and be left alone

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for a long time . It's really when they can

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have an impactful conversation . I think I love that

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the idea of conversation because coaches shouldn't

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be seen as I

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don't know I'm better than you or

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in some sort of power position

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. It's just a sounding board and

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you're right , if the coach is well

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trained and well informed and

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knows what they're doing , then they can

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provide a lot of clarity for you especially . It's

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sort of kind of keep pivot points

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and intersections in your life and

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look , it's only getting harder up there , right , so

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right . Yeah , good

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for you for hiring a coach . Yeah , here's

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a , here's a pitch . Yeah , hire me .

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No , I like that . So I only touched on

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your story when I introduced you , kind of give us your

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back back , give us the back story .

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Sure , sure , I kind of see my life

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in three chapters . The

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first chapter Was

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very much about sort of the traditional trappings

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of success right , so have this

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and do this and be that , and then you're

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gonna be happy and fulfilled , right , and

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that that sort of worked

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until about I was about 35 and

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I and I achieved all of those things

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that were on that list and Felt

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very what's the word ? Just

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felt very empty and

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unfulfilled and sort of life without

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, without , without without

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meaning . And I

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was . I was very ambitious back then , ambitious

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towards a destination of quote-unquote

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success and and it

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was amazing . I mean , I traveled the world and and

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went to incredible places and and

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, by by every

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standard , has how I

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was , I was living an incredible life

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in Switzerland and in Canada

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and internationally . And I

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really woke up one day it was sort of about 2001

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, and I said to myself all

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of these things that I've been working for for 15

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years are , are Unfulfilling

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, they , they , they're not , they're

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all external , they're all

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material , they're all

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Well , everything that we're

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kind of taught , right , that that

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we're supposed to have and do and be an act and perform

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, and etc . Etc . If you do all of that , then

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your life is going to be Fulfilled

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, right ? Well , mine wasn't . So I

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made a big pivot at that point and I had

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a bit of a sort of a spiritual awakening

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that day actually , and just Quit

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everything , gave everything away

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, decided to move back to a place

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. I was living in Switzerland and I was in banking at the

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time , and you know , pardon

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me for that , but but forgive me for

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that I should say , but like I

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Got into something

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that I felt was much more rewarding and so

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I spent the last 20 years and international

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real estate and international development and and

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and I loved it . I mean it was , it

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was , it was , you know , lots

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of travel , lots of incredible people and

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and , like I said in my bio , I've kind

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of been there and seen that all

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around the world . But

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there was something still inside

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of me in in that chapter 2

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that really wasn't what's

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the word . I really still wasn't

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feeling totally aligned

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to my purpose in life and my mission

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and why I'm here , and and

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you know I have to tell you , keith

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, that that , that that

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really now is what I've realized in chapter

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3 , you know , why am I here , what's

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my purpose , why what's what's

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my mission really ? So

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for anybody out there that's kind of seeking

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and striving and wondering , don't

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give up , because you know you

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can , you can have . Your life

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can be made up of multiple chapters , multiple

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storylines , and it

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might just take two or three to fuck to

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chapters like mine to get to the right

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place . I love that .

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So , knowing that you're in this , in this third chapter

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of your life , this question is probably really

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relevant for you . So what is your why now

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?

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You're right . My why is um I ? And

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I don't know quite how I got to this again , I think it's

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divine intervention or something , but I

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know that I'm here . I'm

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on a mission to help people rediscover their

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humanity , to live

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in integrity , to become fearless

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and free . Now all of those

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are are interconnected right

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and by humanity . Find

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it . Discovering your humanity , I mean , I

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mean it's

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essentially as the

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label describes it , but . But

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what that means is is

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if we , just if we remember that we're all

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human beings on this little planet , you

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know , flying through the galaxy at spinning

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on its axle at 1600 kilometers an hour

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, I think , I think we

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would have more peace and more joy and more

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love and more connection , more community

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and more Of

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all the things that make the huge , make

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us humans so wonderful

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, and less of the things that you

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know we don't have to dwell on them , but you know

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toxins and food and war , and

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homelessness , and addiction and

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all of those things that are , that are so

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Challenging for so many people today . So

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find your humanity so that we can

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live together on this little

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rock as one right

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and and let's let's turn

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down this idea of Individualization

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that is , that is so current

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today and let's talk about humanity

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and community and connection and local

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and , and local can

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have an impact globally . But , yeah

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, so that's really step

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one in my , in my mission , and

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integrity , living in integrity and it

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means living in authenticity , so being who

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you really are right and

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again , I don't mean Trying

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to distinguish yourself from everybody

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else , which is , I think , is so current these

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days . Everybody's got something

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, you know , different than special , and I'm like , we're

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all one right , like , so I'm fine

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with your pronouns , but let's

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come together and and recognize

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that we're united . And if you live in authenticity

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and you live in integrity , it might

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be hard , right that the adjustment might

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be hard . You might lose friends , you might lose family

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members , you might put a job , you might do something

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, but living in integrity Really

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means bringing your power to the planet . And

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if you can bring your power to the planet , you

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can become fearless , right and

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and living and working without fear

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, I think is an incredible Precious

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thing that we all deserve . And

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lastly , if you can , if you can , if

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you can connect with your humanity , live

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in integrity , be less fearful

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. And fearful , as you know , keith , it it comes

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up and it shows up in anxiety and

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depression and you know all of those

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, all of those challenges

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that we're having around health in our countries

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, yours and mine . And the last thing is

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freedom , and I mean freedom really from psychological

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suffering . Right , we

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as a society and you can

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see this , the evidence is kind of everywhere

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we

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are suffering . So humanity

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, integrity , freedom and

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allows you to really become unlimited . So

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that's my mission as of . I

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guess it's taken a couple of years to kind of

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figure it out in

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this chapter three . But chapter three also involved

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moving away from Europe , coming

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back to Canada , settling in a very

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quiet place . I'm connected to nature and things like

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that . So

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I'm what's the word I'm

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practicing , what I preach , I guess , is

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what I'm trying to say .

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That's great , and you did that so

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succinctly that you connected all those and explained

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all those different pieces of

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where you're here and you're now are

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. We touched

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a little bit on at the beginning of this about coaching

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and , like I said , there's many different

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forms of coaching . There's

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I guess it's , lifestyle coaching . What

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separates your

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concept of coaching

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from others in your field ?

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Yeah , so there's

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a couple of things , of course . I

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think it's the experience that you bring to the table . Right , that's

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kind of a given , okay , everybody brings

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their own journey and their experience and their

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stories to the table and I

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guess , because I've lived and played and worked and

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succeeded and failed in my life around the world , I

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bring a whole lot of experience to the table . But

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I suppose a lot of people could say that I

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think the difference between what I'm doing and maybe sort

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of a traditional coaches I

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really don't like to divide up coaching

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like that , like

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you were saying , like a performance coach or a coach or

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a business coach , right , I

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think . I really think that's why we

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created whole human coaching , because

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we look at people holistically

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, just because I think in

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today's culture , when you leave the office and

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you go home , it's so difficult , or vice versa

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, right , it's so difficult

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to divide up and

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parse up who we really are

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, right . So I think my difference

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and my , our team's differences , that we look at

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you much more holistically and

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we also tend to push

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the boundaries of what is traditional

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coaching , right . So traditional coaching , as

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you probably know , keeps

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you on sort of strict models , right

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, which are fine , but

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I think life has become

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so complex and humans

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live in such a complex world

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that you need to look at people much more holistically

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and kind of understand if

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there's trauma issues small

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tea or large tea and

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kind of understand if nutrition

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and diet is working and and

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and you know what

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are the stories . You're telling it yourself in your head . So

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yeah , long , long

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answer to probably what should be an easy question , but

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I think I think it's . It's

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a world of experience . And

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then the idea of looking at people holistically

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, that that , that , yes

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, if we're doing leadership coaching or if we're

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doing coaching for a CEO or an executive

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, you

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can't just sort of surgically

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only look at the office or

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only look at home life . They're

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only interconnected , I think , today . So

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that's really , I guess , the . I

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guess that's the difference between myself and somebody

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else , I guess .

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Yeah , I was a certified coach too and it's

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interesting because you're right , you can't

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just pick apart one

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section . Let me just coach you on your

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profession without realizing that they're

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all connected somehow . I think the

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shift I've seen , that I've noticed

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in the last 10 years in coaching is this idea of

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the holistic coaching and

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you don't parse your life because you

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can't parse your life in real life . I

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mean I would love to just say , okay , right

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now I'm just going to be a husband , I'm

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just going to be a father , I'm just going

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to be a pastor . But all

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those things connect and they go

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back to what your original point . They're part of your

19:52

authentic self . If you deny any

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of those pieces , to say those

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are not related , then you're ignoring

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who you really are and a different hats

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that you get a chance to wear . So yeah , I agree with

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you .

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Yeah , yeah , and look , I mean I

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think parsing it up and subdividing it , it

20:10

leaves room for missing

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things , right

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, If you're only focused on somebody's life and

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yet most of their

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challenges or stress

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are coming from work

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or other factors , you need to dive into

20:29

that and

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that's why we say go in , find

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the stories that you're telling yourself in your head

20:36

and deconstruct them

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to build new ones . But you can't do that saying

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, oh , I'm only going to focus on your office work

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or

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life coaching , for example

20:48

.

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So it's got to be wider holistic

20:50

, Exactly , or

20:53

complicated machines

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.

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I think in the United States you have 40

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, the body is like doctors or have

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41 different specialties , right . So we're

21:04

kind of like let's look at the whole thing

21:06

, not the subdivided subsets .

21:08

Exactly right . You

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know , one of the beautiful things about

21:14

coaching is you have to ask powerful

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questions , and so if you're helping

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someone to define their

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purpose and their mission , maybe they're coming to you because

21:23

they're stuck . What

21:25

are some examples of some powerful questions

21:27

you might ask someone ? Help them discover what

21:30

is their purpose , or refine what their purpose and

21:32

mission are .

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Yeah , typically if somebody

21:35

is stuck , I tend to

21:38

pardon the pun , but I tend to stay

21:40

there , right , and

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the work to do is

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to discover the stories

21:47

that you're telling yourself to

21:49

get to that stuck moment , right

21:51

? So I

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guess it's more than one question . It's what are you saying

21:57

to yourself , what is your belief system , what are your

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self limiting beliefs ? What are you telling yourself

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? You know , 20,000 times

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a day , because so often people

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get stuck because of a whole

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series of storytelling

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that's going on in their head . Right , I can't

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do this , I can't do this , even if it's very subtle

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. Oh , they want to , you know . So

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all these things happen

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. And so

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for me , getting to unstuck

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and actually we have a podcast called Getting to Unstuck

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is all

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about deconstructing

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the narratives that are going on in your head

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. And you

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know , we're such strange things

22:38

. We carry these stories for lifetimes

22:41

, sometimes , right , and

22:43

then you get to this point where you

22:46

get stuck and then the stuckness

22:48

turns into dis-ease , and

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that I don't mean , you know , terrible

22:54

diseases , but lack of you

22:56

know , just not feeling right , feeling off , feeling

22:59

off center , etc . Etc . So for me , it's

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not so much let's design your

23:03

future and we do

23:05

that right . But the first thing to do to get

23:07

unstuck is to do

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an inventory of how you

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got to hear right , how

23:14

you got to this point , right , and then for

23:16

me is

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okay , this is where you're at , that . You

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got here . Those are the stories that you've been

23:22

telling yourself . Which ones are true

23:24

, right , which ones are serving you

23:26

? And so often , if you do a little

23:28

bit of this inventory

23:30

, you discover that most

23:32

of them aren't true . Most of them are just

23:34

stories from the past that

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you might hold onto and have clung

23:39

onto for dear life . Right , because that , familiarity

23:42

not withstanding

23:44

, it might not be serving you , but the familiarity

23:46

of those stories keeps you

23:48

in those , keeps you in those closed loops

23:50

. So before we do any

23:52

sort of purpose mission driven work

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, it's where are you now ?

23:58

So when you're talking about sounds of me like trauma

24:00

, a lot of people are kind of stuck because

24:03

of there's some trauma in their life and

24:05

as a coach , one of the things

24:08

I know I've struggled with in the past with helping clients

24:10

realize is that the trauma or the stories we

24:12

tell ourselves . Because what trauma really

24:14

is is those stories over and over

24:17

again that we get trapped in those loops in our head

24:19

that we can't get out of . So

24:21

how do you help people deal

24:24

with the unresolved trauma that may be

24:27

the thing that's holding them back ?

24:30

Well , again , if you can do

24:32

this indexing and identification

24:34

or inventory the

24:37

stories , right , the stories come from those

24:39

moments of trauma and they don't have to be big

24:41

tea trauma , right , they could be small tea stuff , like you are

24:43

maybe bullied when you're in

24:48

school , or that's still . That's big

24:50

, but it might be a divorce . So all of these things that we might

24:54

consider normal , right , quote unquote

24:57

that don't get resolved

25:00

can take you through a life . And I use this

25:03

metaphor of you are looking at life through opaque lenses , right , it's like having

25:05

four

25:10

sets of glasses on that are all opaque

25:12

. You just you can't see clearly . So to me

25:14

the work at hand

25:19

is inventorying those stories and

25:21

then going and finding out what is the origin

25:23

of that story . And

25:27

so often we don't . We're not taught

25:29

this right , we're not taught to look at our belief system

25:32

and look at our narratives and stories and figure out

25:34

where they , where the origin story , comes

25:38

from . And so often , if you can work

25:40

through with somebody , what is the origin story of that particular

25:45

belief right ?

25:46

So , as we're talking about these traumas , colin . We talk about the stories

25:49

we tell ourselves , and you were saying

25:51

that oftentimes we have to deal with the fact

25:53

that those

25:57

stories we're telling ourselves may

25:59

not be accurate or true . So how do we begin to maybe reshape

26:04

the way we look at those stories to better help us to understand

26:06

there's more there . That's

26:09

kind of maybe dealing with . That's holding us back , yeah , I mean .

26:11

So I think , once you've done , the

26:15

inventory of the stories and the narratives

26:17

right , and the belief systems

26:19

Right , and you go in

26:21

to each one . It's got to be really specific

26:23

, right ? This is like designing a

26:26

house , like the blueprints need to

26:28

be very accurate , right ? So , so

26:30

what I do with people is we

26:32

inventory the beliefs and

26:34

the systems and those stories and everything like

26:37

that . Then we look at each one and we

26:39

ask the question is that story serving

26:41

you ? Work ? The first question , sorry , is the origin

26:43

story . What's the origin of that story

26:45

? Okay , I've had to identify . I know

26:47

where that's coming from . The third

26:49

thing to do is to Is

26:52

I just said it is to ask yourself

26:55

is it if it's serving you or it's not

26:57

right ? Because some things

26:59

from the past might serve you , okay

27:01

, but most of it

27:03

doesn't right . So so

27:06

it's it's . It's

27:08

simply , it's not simple , but it is a recognition

27:10

that the certain stories

27:13

that you're telling yourself From the

27:15

past , you discover the origin

27:17

story , where they came from , and

27:19

you ask yourself if they're serving you today . 99%

27:22

of the time , most of them aren't . So then

27:24

the job to do is to reconstruct new narratives

27:27

and new story lines . Right , it's

27:29

the story of your life . What do

27:31

you want the next chapter to look like , and that's

27:33

where you begin to design it , right , let

27:35

, much like an architect or a sailor

27:38

charting his course or her course to

27:40

a new destination . It

27:42

it you want it to be a very , very

27:44

intentional right and

27:46

Just like an architect

27:48

or just like a sailboat . To

27:50

get to that point , you need very

27:52

specific coordinates and you need a plan , and

27:55

and that's what I , that's what I work on with people

27:58

that that might be

28:00

telling themselves Self-limiting

28:02

beliefs and restrictive stories and that keep

28:04

you in that loop , right in that closed

28:06

circle . Oh , I'm just gonna stay here

28:08

. I know it bang , it's familiar

28:10

. Oh , I know that story , it's familiar

28:13

. But they keep you locked in . And and

28:16

that goes back to that , that first question of

28:18

mine , of my mission it's like . It's

28:20

like , if you can free

28:22

yourself from the psychological suffering from those

28:25

stories , right , what are the possibilities

28:27

? And that's the last question that I ask people

28:29

. Right , and this is this is where this

28:32

, the spark comes . It's like

28:34

. It's like how

28:37

. And if you use an , a metaphor

28:39

of a fuel tank , right , how much fuel

28:41

were you spending on those old stories keeping

28:43

you down ? Right , how

28:46

much ? How much energy could you have

28:48

if you got rid of those

28:50

stories ? What are the possibilities ? What's the potential

28:53

? It's really unlimited , right

28:55

? So that's

28:57

the nuts , the nut to crack with With

29:00

people , and that's the work that we do . I

29:02

love that .

29:04

As we think about those old stories and

29:06

the old traumas . Oftentimes

29:08

they do Play

29:10

themselves out in modern times , as

29:13

we talked about a little bit right now . You know you moved

29:15

away from Switzerland back to Canada getting

29:17

connected with nature again . A lot

29:20

of us are living in some very , very complex

29:23

times and it's

29:25

very hard for us to get

29:27

out of outside of those times

29:29

and even reconnect with

29:31

the heart and the power

29:33

that I would say God

29:35

has for us to uncover . So

29:37

how do you help people especially

29:39

cope in these ? You know it's I Almost

29:42

skip in the morning , is like , I'm afraid , turn the news on

29:44

or turn on my computer Because

29:47

there's just so much negative stuff

29:49

like . So how do we , how do we begin to Right

29:51

unpack all of that and just survive

29:54

and cope in this craziness ?

29:56

Sure sure , sure so . So

29:58

the first thing to do is turn off the news , right

30:00

, and and but

30:03

, but . But there's an and there . Right

30:05

, it's turn off the news and get

30:07

informed . Okay , those

30:09

that might seem like a dichotomy , or or

30:12

or . You know that that

30:14

doesn't work . But then you have to

30:16

recognize that things like the news are a product

30:18

. Right , they're a product for you

30:20

to consume . Okay , when

30:23

I say turn off that and get informed

30:25

, I mean get really informed about what

30:27

matters to you as a human

30:29

being in and what matters to you

30:31

right outside your front door , down

30:34

the street , in , I don't know , in

30:36

the ministry or or however you're engaged

30:38

with your local community , right ? I

30:40

was actually having a conversation about this with a colleague

30:42

of mine recently who was

30:44

was , you know , having

30:47

a hard time with what's going on in the world . Right , I

30:49

mean , like you say , you just have to Turn

30:52

on the news and and it's shocking

30:54

what's happening , not

30:56

just in the Middle East but everywhere . And

30:59

I said to her you know , healing

31:02

, healing and sanity and sense

31:04

making , start

31:07

when you turn that off . Get

31:09

really informed , like

31:11

, study , read history

31:14

, geopolitics , understand

31:16

what's going on in the world , because sense making

31:18

sense making today in in

31:20

2024 , is really is

31:22

a challenge . Right , as you know , there's right

31:25

and wrong and left and up and down , and you don't

31:27

know kind of don't know what , which way to look . So

31:29

Very

31:32

poorly articulated answer here . What I'm , what

31:34

I'm really trying to say is it

31:39

? It's about reclaiming your power

31:42

, actually , right

31:44

, so , turning off the news , getting

31:47

informed , be informed about what

31:49

you need to be informed on , and

31:51

recognize and understand that that

31:55

healing the world starts

31:57

right here , with you . Right

31:59

, and healing society and culture

32:01

and everything , and even the

32:03

climate and the environment , it starts with

32:05

you and it's

32:10

an intentional . I call it creating

32:12

a personal protection system . It's

32:14

almost like having your own kryptonite

32:18

security system around you , and the

32:20

way to do that is to have a very clear

32:22

idea of where you're going in the world , right

32:25

, so we call it your

32:27

personal and professional

32:29

toolkit , your leadership toolkit . Understand

32:32

what your personal brand is and

32:34

that's connected to your purpose and meaning and

32:36

why you're here , right ? And the third

32:39

element of that sort of tripod

32:41

of personal protection is to sense

32:43

make in the world and to understand

32:46

how it all actually

32:48

works . And there's long form

32:50

podcasts and there's books and journals

32:52

and sub-stack . You know , the interesting thing

32:54

, or the positive element of

32:56

the internet and social media is that now

32:59

you and I can be as informed

33:01

as anyone , any journalist , around

33:05

the world . So it

33:08

is creating those foundations

33:11

of destination and

33:13

toolkit and personal branding and sense

33:15

making that will allow

33:17

you to have a firm grounding in

33:21

this world . Because , you're right , it is complex

33:23

, it's crazy , but

33:27

at the same time , there's a

33:29

lot out there . There's a lot of people that are doing good

33:31

. There's a lot happening around innovations

33:34

and technology in the future that are all

33:36

extremely positive , right

33:38

, so I ? And there's

33:40

great resources out there for not sitting

33:43

and doom scrolling all day . Right , there

33:47

was a great video I'll send it to you that I

33:49

saw recently . It was like the antidote to

33:51

the doom and gloom and it was five it's

33:54

on YouTube , but it's five futurists

33:56

, so people that are

33:59

looking at trends and mega trends in the future

34:02

, and they're really positive . So

34:04

I guess , long

34:06

answer short . You know , pull

34:08

yourself back , walk , pull away

34:10

. Pull away from the junk food

34:12

, right , and I don't mean just the McDonald's

34:15

, I mean pull away from the junk food

34:17

that you're consuming , right

34:19

, and get enriched and that'll

34:22

give you a solid , you know

34:24

, a much more solid foundation

34:26

to deal

34:28

with the scary stuff .

34:30

That's good advice . So , colin

34:32

, I'm curious what are you excited about in this

34:34

phase of your life ?

34:37

You know it's really just expanding my mission

34:39

and it took me

34:42

until I was in my 50s to figure it

34:44

out . And that's why I'm on it , because I

34:46

think you know you don't have to wait as long as I

34:49

do , you don't have to go through three chapters like

34:51

I did , you don't have to be divorced

34:53

and bankrupt and depressed , and you know you

34:55

don't have to go through all of that right , but there's

34:58

the . I mean maybe you have to

35:00

, but I'm just

35:02

trying to accelerate people's sense

35:06

of self and place

35:08

in this world . So that's all I

35:10

wanna do is just keep expanding that .

35:12

That's great . I love to ask

35:14

my guest this question what do

35:16

you want your legacy in the world to be ?

35:20

Oh God , that's

35:26

a good one . I

35:29

just wanna be able to impact and change as

35:31

many people's lives as possible . So

35:33

you know , at a whole human coaching , we're creating a movement

35:36

. We're creating a movement

35:38

about bringing humanity back into the workplace

35:41

and bringing humanity back into the house and

35:43

the play place , and

35:47

we are . That's what

35:49

I'd like to be known for and remembered for . That

35:51

I and my colleagues

35:53

and friends and associates and people like

35:55

you that we're working with that we change the world

35:57

, make it a better place , make it human-centric

36:00

and not , you

36:03

know , sort of corporate-centric . And

36:06

the individualization that's happened over time

36:08

and the divisiveness and the division

36:10

that's happened I wanna

36:12

bring it all back back to a different time .

36:15

That's an admirable goal . It really is . Because it

36:18

is so hard to just wake up and

36:20

not and push through and

36:23

to put out positive content because my

36:25

goal is to give people positive content , because

36:27

we have enough negative . But how do

36:29

you connect with people that also share that

36:31

, so you realize that you're not alone in

36:33

the world , that you're not the only person that wants something

36:36

better than what we have ?

36:39

Oh yeah , and you know , keith

36:41

, I think it feels as though there

36:43

is an awakening . Yeah

36:46

, I don't know about you , but just

36:48

you know I was on 50 podcasts

36:50

last year and there I

36:54

mean that's just so brilliant that there's

36:56

thousands of people out there like you

36:58

and me just wanting this

37:00

place to be a better place to live on . I mean

37:02

, it's a little rock flying through the

37:04

galaxy . Let's get with the program

37:07

. You know , unless Elon Musk

37:09

accelerates things , we're not going to Mars anytime

37:12

soon .

37:12

Right , exactly .

37:14

Let's make this place as best we can

37:16

you know .

37:18

Until the rock is stop exploding , we can't cut

37:20

on that . Yeah , exactly .

37:22

Exactly . Well , yeah right

37:24

, it's going to be a while , so

37:26

make the best of this . Exactly that's

37:28

what I say .

37:29

So from my listeners who are going , you know , I think

37:31

I want Colin as my coach . How can they

37:33

connect with you and what can I find you on

37:35

?

37:35

social media . You can

37:37

find me on Instagram , just Colin Kingsmill , or

37:39

at ColinKingsmillcom or at

37:41

wholehumancoachingcom . Whole human coaching

37:44

is where we work with teams and leaders and

37:46

help people rethink and reimagine

37:49

the workplace and the workforce

37:51

, and

37:54

at my coaching business , I work with CEOs and

37:56

founders and people that are trying to make

37:59

the world a different place . So I'm

38:01

easily findable . Yeah , you can't miss

38:03

me . Tight me up .

38:05

Colin , thanks so much for sharing your

38:08

content and for your vision

38:10

and your

38:12

I would say your inspiration , because you

38:15

have a positive attitude and I like that . We need

38:17

more of that from people , especially

38:20

people who are former bankers .

38:24

And current bankers .

38:25

Current bankers right

38:27

.

38:30

Yeah , there's lots of room for improvement

38:32

. Let's just say that Right .

38:34

But thank you for what you do . I really do appreciate and I appreciate

38:37

you giving my audience some positive

38:39

content , some hopefulness , sense

38:42

of purpose and just mission

38:44

and vision and realize about being their authentic

38:46

self and freedom and living

38:48

away from fear . I mean all those are important

38:51

aspects of it .

38:53

Yes , we can do this . It

38:55

does not have to be like this . That is my

38:57

last sort of message to everybody

38:59

in your audience . It doesn't have to be like this

39:01

, but you need to

39:03

break out of that , break out of the old

39:05

mold .

39:07

Well , Colin , thanks so much . Have a blessed new year .

39:10

Thank you so much . Same to you , looking forward

39:12

to seeing you again sometime , me

39:14

too .