Arci and Pella spoke with ms Mari Margil - the alfa bitch - from Center for Democratic and Environmental Rights, about the rights of nature movement and how important people's movements are.

The episode is from the summer, but because of ms Margils busy schedule to give her alfa approval it has taken some time to release it. She is botch Arci's and Pella's big inspiration and role model and we are very proud and happy to have her on the pod.

The music is Passage to dawn by Dimbodious.