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Welcome to Behind Kentucky Basketball. I'm Cameron Mills. A few weeks ago I

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had the chance to sit down and have some conversations with each member of this

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coming year's Kentucky basketball team. If you'd like to see video of the podcast,

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check out the UK Sports Network social media. We're on Facebook, Instagram,

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and x and hopefully this chat will allow you to get to know these

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guys a little bit better than you already do. I truly hope you enjoy

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these conversations. So we're simply with Tredy Mitchell, transfer from West Virginia and

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someone who is used to transferring. You've been a lot of school, So

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what's it been like coming here? Because every time you've gone to new and

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it's been new teammates, new coaches, new coaching philosophy. What's it been

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like coming to Kentucky. It's been an amazing opportunity. First, Yeah,

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but it's definitely unlike any place that I've been, and obviously I've been around

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a little bit. Yeah, but it's just the people here. You you

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feel the energy, you feel the love everywhere you go. We're not even

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in season yet and people all over the place supporting us, like even we

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went to Toronto and yeah, place was packed out blue, Like you're not

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getting that in many places. Is that like when you when you decided to

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come here, because when you left West Virginia you had a bunch of different

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offers to go other places. What was the give me one thing? What

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was the one thing that said, now, it's Kentucky because you didn't know

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about you didn't know absolutely absolutely, I mean it's it was pretty simple because

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it's a Hall of Fame coach, you know his track record and the dudes

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to support him, and it's my last go around at this so I want

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to give myself the best opportunity to make it to the next leveer. What's

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the biggest thing you think you've improved on this summer? Because you and I

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both know this is when you make your strides in the summer, not during

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the season, and during the summer, so what's what do you think?

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What's the thing you focused on? And then if it's not something similar,

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what's the biggest change in your game from last year to this year that you've

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done. I would say a big focus for me this offseason was getting my

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body weight up to be able just to be a little stronger and hold myself

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a little better out there on the court because my body weight is fluctuated throughout

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my years in college. And now I'm finally at that spot where like I

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found the area where I'm comfortable, still able to move and still be physical

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download with guys. And I guess the biggest change that I went through the

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summer is just kind of learned to play with the new guys. Yeah,

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it's really just just learning their games and learning my spots on the court.

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Because the way that I see myself is I would call it like a plug

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and play type of guy, Like you can kind of just put me where

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you need me to be, and I'll find a way to feel into the role and do what I need to do. Yeah, I'm just meaning to

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coach whatever you need me to do. Yeah, exactly, all right.

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So one of the things, because you know, whether it's the one and

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done, you're going to be here one year one way or the other,

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right and you're gone. So one of the things that a lot of fans

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don't like is they don't get to know a lot of the players these days. So let me ask you a few questions. We're gonna get to know

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who Tred Mitchell is right. So let's end a couple. Start with the easy one. What is what do you do off the court for fun?

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And you can't say video games? Video games is going to be the default.

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I know every player's going to say it. You can't say video games, but that is one of them. I know it is. That's why

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I'm disallowing video games. So give me another one. But me, I

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like to I just kind of like to be outside, whether that be on

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a handmock on my porch, or go for a walk with my dog,

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things like that, just to kind of stay in the present moment because you

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know, there's a lot of noise out there and things like that. So

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I like to read. I like to draw things like that just kind of

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get your mind away from everything. Would you draw? Is there a particular

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medium, is there a particular subject that you like drawing, or is it just kind of doodling until it becomes something that you're proud of. That's actually

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exactly that. I kind of just it'll be on paper on my iPad.

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I just kind of I just sketch around and then until I think it looks

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like something, and then I'll turn it into something all right. So yeah,

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we talked about the number of teams you played for, so you've had

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a lot of different coaches, a lot of the different types of coaches.

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So if someone's wanting to motivate Trey Mitchell, all right, let's say you're

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coming off a bad game this season. Coach count needs to get you up,

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get you going? What do you what do you want to hear?

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What? How does the one motivate Trey Mitchell? First, I would say

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that most of my motivation it comes from a thing because you can't you can't

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really rely on somebody else to bring that idea all the time. But from

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a coaching perspective, I think I do best with a coach that is able

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to explain things yeah and make things make sense. I feel like that's when

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when I'm at my best. Whether that be him saying, Okay, you

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did this, this and this wrong. Yeah, so this is how we fix this, or whether that be like, yo, go out there,

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play your game like, yeah, you had a bad game. It is

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what it is. But you know the work you've put in, you know

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the things like that. Just trust your game and this is kind of that

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when your career is over at Kentucky, these new teammates of years, what

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do you hope they say about you? Well, what do you hope that

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this and you've got one year right with these guys, your last colleague to

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go around when you leave here, what's the one thing that you're like,

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I hope this is what they think of me, and this is what they

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tell people about me. One, I would just say that he's a good

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dude, number one. But two, he's somebody that that you could come

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to with any type of problem, any type of question, and he's going

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to break it down in a way that makes sense. Because I know that

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a lot of players that I've been with that biggest gap between coach and player.

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It's just things not making sense to them. Okay, So like being

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around and being with a bunch of different coaches, the thing that I've learned

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probably the most is how to take what a coach is saying and really break

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that down to what's he wants from you. So I know, like some

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dudes get emotional about it, whether it's just a tone of voice or how

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they say it, or they say it and it doesn't make sense. And

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it's just like even in practice now I see, when guys kind of feel

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some type of way about coach saying something, I pull him to the side

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and I'm like, go, like, this is what he's trying to convey to you, it just doesn't sound like it. And see, that's one

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of the most important things about you, being your age, how long you

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played college basketball or basketball in general. Because my freshman year get yelled at

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all the time. You take it personally. You can't take it personally.

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So having somebody in your shoes that can take what we got seven freshmen,

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pull them aside and say, if it is the freshman, which I assume

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it is because they're not. Everybody has right, but you pull them aside

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and say, don't take it personally. It's not personal, right, it's

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just coaching coach. All right, Let me change change gears here on.

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You just think about this one carefully. When you're getting dressed for practice or

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game, right, do you go sock sock shoe shoe or sock shoe,

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sock shoe, socks, socks, shoes, shoes A normal person for sure.

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Absolutely. All right, Trey, thanks for hanging out with us for

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a few minutes. I appreciate it. And the season appreciate. We're with

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the freshman phenom Rob Dillingham, who is part of the enormous UH incoming freshman

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class that ended the season. I guess last year we could call the season,

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but ended last year UH as a number one recruiting class in the country.

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Does that add any added pressure to you? And and at this point

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there's we got what seven freshmen, so it even grew during I guess you

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know, during the off season. But do you feel the added pressure because

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you're you were labeled as such a high recruit and are part of such a

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high recruiting class. Uh? I mean, I don't think of it like

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that. I really just think of it like everyone got to prove theirselves at

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every level. So like even though we did something in high school, I

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feel like we got to prove ourselves at this level too. I feel like we have a good chance to be better, like as they say, but

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I feel like we always got to prove ourselves. So without putting see the

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kind of pressure on yourself where you feel like you have to go out and accomplished, whether it's a practice or let's say you're all's first nationally televised game,

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right, how do you go out and prove that, you know what,

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I got to prove myself at this level. How do you go do

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that without overdoing it? You know what I mean? Uh? Yeah,

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I think it would be really just having confidence in each other and in ourselves

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because we're in the gym every single day, so it's like we should we

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deserve to go out there and be able to play good because we put in

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work. So it's like not really arrogance, but like confidence in ourselves.

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And I feel like if we have confidence on ourselves, then we won't overdo

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it. So if y'all in the gym every day, I'm presuming whether is

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it individual destruction? Is it pick up games? What are y'all doing right

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now? Uh? We do everything we have like individual Everyone works out individually

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every day and then we'll play pick up when we don't have like any workouts

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or anything. So let's talk about the pick up games all right. Let's let's get a little insight into what's going on with the team right now.

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Everybody's all Toronto, right, which got everybody excited about this team, which

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typically what happens when we go on a trip like that. Every when we

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play well, everyone gets excited. But we've continued to practice, I mean

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basically not officially, but y'all continue to play pickup games, you continue to

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be around each other. Who has been the biggest surprise on this team as

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far as you're concern when you knew who's going to be on this team even

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as guys got added, Like who is the guy that during pickup games during

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maybe just individual on the that you're like, dang, he's better than I

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thought, or he works harder than I thought. Right, who is that

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person? I'd probably say either a dude or debut because like I knew they

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were good, but like they play harder than everyone, so it's like it

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just adds more to their game because everyone on our team can score the boss.

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It's like they add the extra what we really need, the nitty gritty

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getting rebounds in. Is there like a shock to you because you've obviously played

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a very high level in high school, but now you're jumping This is a

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big jump, right, and it just is regardless of how good you are,

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it's a big lead, not only to college because now it's a job. Righthigh school, it might have been for fun out it's a job,

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but is there is there a part of you that like when you got here

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right that you weren't ready for it yet, like and and it couldn't be

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something you could get ready for it in a day, but it's like something that shocked you, like, oh okay, wait a minute, this is

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now, this is more serious than it was last year. I mean,

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basketball wise, I feel like it don't really change that much either if it's

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just like maybe physical if anything, but I feel like basketball is basketball,

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so if anything, it would be school where Okay, all right, so

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let's talk about the physical part thing because you mentioned a do right and to

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do Apparently he's put on a lot of weight this summer. He already played

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physical last year. That's what he was known for with the way he plays.

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You come in as a freshman. We'll take the other freshman as well.

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Is there a way where okay, anybody can score? Right, you said that, but the way it do plays, the way JB plays,

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you're looking at like, oh okay, they're not just scoring, they're playing

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on another level. When it comes to intensity, is that something you look

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at and say, Okay, I've got to match that or do you feel like you're already there as far as matching that intensity, Uh, yeah,

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for sure. I feel like I've definitely gotten better seeing them do it,

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because like I understand that, like everyone can score the ball, so you

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got to add something to be able to play in the game. So really

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just working on overall. But yeah, I feel like I've gotten better at

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it this year. What did your game right now? As great as you

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are, where do you need to get better between now and April? Probably

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just play making and understanding, like with the players we got, like a

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good shot is not better than a great shot with our team because like in

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high school, we could take shots and they'll go in. But it's just

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like we always want to find the best play in the situation, so we'll

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give up a good shot for a great shot, even when if it's myself,

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So like giving a ball up the tone. If I got to open

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three but one dribble and then I kicked the tone, It's like he shoots

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at a high percentage, so why not give up the shots? So like really just having like like risking what you got for other people to see our

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whole team win. Everybody saw Toronto, and I think the one thing we

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saw in Toronto was Okay, these guys are as good as advertised, but

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they also seem to be able to play as though they've known each other for

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years. Why is that? How can you guys look to be so gelled

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in the middle of summer when we've got eight new guys on this team.

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I feel like, well, we have room to improve. But like I

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feel like, honestly, like it's because we don't look at each other as

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competition. And on practice we do look at each other's competition because like we

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all want to play. But like when it comes to off the court, when we're all the way from basketball, we all like we laugh it off.

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We could argue and practice then right after practice all be laughing, so like we just know that it's more to it and it's a team, all

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right, So when you're competing in practice, who is your who's your rival

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in practice? Who is it that you want to get the best of? Every day? Definitely DJ every day, JA zone all right? Fair enough?

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When we're off the court, all right, When when Rob steps off

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the court and needs a break from all of this mess that is that is

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not just college basketball, but Kentucky college basketball, what do you do?

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What's your what's your way to relax. And I'm gonna add this, You cannot say gaming. I don't want to hear Xbox Play safteen five. I

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don't hear any of that. You can't say gaming. I want something else

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other than gaming. I don't really know. I hang out with my family

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a lot, I hang out with the teammates, but I don't really do

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a lot. And there's not another hobby that you can think of. Has

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it just been basketball for you for for eighteen years? Has that all's been

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literally basketball? I don't do nothing else for at all? All right?

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So what is all right? So we talked what you do for fun?

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So apparently you just play basketball for fun. So these are gonna be more

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some of be related to basketball, but a little more personal. What's your

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favorite place you've ever traveled to? My mom is from Samoa, so I

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went to some when I was younger. How old were you when you went?

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Like seven? Yeah? And I have held the pictures from it.

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So do you remember a lot of it or just from the pictures A little

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bit? I remember, but mostly from the pictures for real. But yeah,

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like I remember like going in the ocean and all. Yeah, So

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we stayed there for like two months. I remember a little bit. What

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was what was the most meaningful thing you brought back from that trip? And

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I know you're only seven, so it might be hard to be even thought

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in that term, but but you know, it's where your mom is from.

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It's not like the United States, it's not like how you grew up.

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But so what did you bring back? What? What? What changed

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in you, even at that young age, from coming back from there? Really just like being grateful for everything you have because like you never know another

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person situation, not everyone has like you. So like, even if you

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don't have a lot, you just got to be grateful because and we're blinded

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to it over here, right whether even watching the news being there's a completely

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different story no matter where it is, right, what what do you think

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it's far? Think about all the coaches you've had in your lifetime. And

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we'll ad coach count now because you've had him for a few months. What

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do you think is the most overrated way to motivate a player? Let me

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put you on a coach of shoes. You've got to get the best out of your point guard or the best out of somebody. How do you do

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that? How do you want to be coached in a sense of motivation.

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Uh, really, just like having room for you to mess up, because

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when you in your head think like all right, if I miss mess up

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and I'm coming out the game, yep, you all automatically play like a

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nervous you don't play as comfortable. So really just having a room to like

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mess up and improve. Yep. All right, last question, I'll let you go. All right, when you're getting dressed right practice getting ready for

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your game, do you put on socks, socks, shoes, shoes or

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do you go soft shoe, soft shoe, suck, sucks shoes. Alright,

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you're normal. We got to go. All right, Thanks, ro

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appreciate it very very much. Thank you. Welcome backward with Grant Darbyshire.

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Who sophomore, senior, sophomore softomore, sophomore. What is so you now?

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And this sounds weird because you're a sophomore, but you're an upperclassman at

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the University of Kentucky, right, I mean we got seven eight new guys

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who some of them might be older than you, but they've not played at

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Kentucky for a year. Right, so you've got that behind you. What

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would be your biggest thing, one thing that you would wish to impart to

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the incoming freshman about this is what you need to understand about playing at Kentucky.

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I mean, I would just say to keep a positive mindset. You know, like the college basketball's a long season, you know, like guys

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can get tired, both mentally and physically. And I'd say the biggest thing

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is about you know, us sticking together, us supporting one another, and

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you know, just keeping our spirits up, you know, And how do

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you do that? I mean, because I think that's such an important thing

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of staying together as a team, not getting upset at each other, even

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if we do, because we both know what happens in practice. Right,

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But at some point there is a kind of live and let live attitude of

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Okay, this circle we have of us, it's just us and we can't

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let anybody the outside get in. Yeah. So how is it that you

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all, and you've had a year under Cal, you're don't read to start your second year? What is it, whether it's Cal, whether it's just

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that we got great guys on the team, how are you all able to

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do that? Because it's a rare thing, especially is the limited amount of

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time that you all play together. Every year, new guys coming in.

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Yeah, So what is it about cal or what is it about our system

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that says, you know what, these teams become a bunch of guys who

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don't know each other, but they play like their long lost brothers. All.

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How's that happen? I mean, honestly, I would say just the

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amount of time to spend together. You know, we all live in the same building. We see each other every single day. You know, guys

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are always checking in on each other, somebody gets sick, like you know,

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it's always it's a family, and you know, it's just built into

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the culture here. I would say, like whether it's on the court or

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off the court, like we have, we laughed just as much in the locker room as we do compete on the floor. Yeah, you know,

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I think that's one of the biggest things with any team really. Yeah,

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and I think that's just what makes it so special. Antonio, who we

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just talked to you walked in said something about him. He was talking about

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bowling. Oh, you can't talk. He can't talk about bowling. Bowling,

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But yes, the last time we went he lost three nothing. I'm

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sorry, three fifty is as high, but that's not his average. No,

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No, I don't know. I don't play as much as him.

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I still beat him, though, so he can't be that good, but

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I will give him credit. Though. We were playing one game I had.

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I bought a one ninety three first, all right, okay, I

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thought the game was over. I was taking picture of the score. He

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had to bowl three strikes in a row in the tenth frame to beat me. Yeah, and he did it. Oh my gosh, I was so

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mad. But no, yeah, him and I we go bowling sometimes.

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It's a lot of fun other than bowling, and I'm and other than gaming.

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Because I'm assuming most of you guys are going to answer if I say what you're off the court wind down activity, I'm guessing I'm gonna hear a

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lot of gaming. I don't want gamings to answer. You can't use gaming

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and you can't use bowling, because I already know that about you. How

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how do you unwind after game hard practice, when you want to step away

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from that court and not be a UK basketball player for a couple of hours?

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What do you do? I actually don't game at all. I don't

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play any video games, but uh, personally for me, I mean,

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I will I do a lot of homework in my free time, sadly,

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but I don't but to be sad, not to be sad about But at

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the same time, you know, it's not it's not great, it's not

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Yeah, I play the ukulele. Okay, that's something I do. No,

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Okay, wait a minute, wait, yeah when did that start?

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That actually started like January of last year. I don't know. I was

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like, your girlfriend give you a ukulele, and you were you were afraid

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to say you didn't want it. No, no, no, I actually

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took it from home. My sister has one, but she never used it,

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so she gave it to me. And so I just decided to like,

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this is just something to teach myself to start doing. And you, I mean you can. I mean I don't even know what song uses a

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ukulele. Yeah, but like you can play, yeah, just strum.

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You can actually play a song in your Yeah, all right, we'll come

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back and get that on a camera at some point. Yeah, what as

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you let's take Toronto, let's take the ten days of practice before Toronto,

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and we didn't even go back to last year with you. What do you

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look at with this team that now that you know, Okay, you've seen

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the freshman play, you've seen the incoming guys, you were here last year,

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What do you look at with this team that you think, I think

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the fans are going to be surprised that this team is this? What is

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that? Well? What do you see because all they're seeing is the games.

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They're not seeing the practice. You're seeing practice all the time, so you see a lot more. So what what would surprise us this year to

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know about this team and what it's going to be like you think? I

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mean, I would probably just say from the jump, for me, it was just the unselfishness, like it looks like these guys have played together.

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Yeah, it does for a while, and it's you don't see that very

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often in a lot of college teams. And you know, the way we

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moved the ball from the way we moved the ball in Toronto, and then

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just the way we score effortlessly, and but also just our connection like off

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the court that makes things like that so much easier. And I just probably

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say, like something to look forward to, just there's just going to be

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a lot of like good basketball, you know what I mean? And just

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a lot of good ball movement, good the words escaping. But if you

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kind of get what I'm saying, just having a good basketball IQ, I

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think your career here is over and you're no longer a Wildcat, You're an

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ex Wildcat. What is it? And I want you to think about your

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teammates? What is it you hope your teammates what do you want them to

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say about you as a person and as a basketball player. I would say

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as a person, I want to be known as the guy who's willing to do anything for his teammates. And I hope these guys know that, Like

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if they need me on the court, off the court, you know, whatever they need from me, I'm going to be there for them. That's

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long after they're done playing. And so I like, my goal here is

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to make lifelong friendships and relationships that are going to last me and just allow

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me to connect with these guys for a lifetime. And I think as a

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person's that's the important thing to me. And then as a basketball player,

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just somebody who always pushed them to whatever way I can, you know,

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on the court, in the weight room, in whatever way they see. So you talk about pushing your teammates, What pushes you, what motivates you

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to get better? We're coming off of summer. Summer is when players get

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better, right, So what is it that has motivated you this summer to

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work on your game? I mean, honestly, a lot of it comes

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from these guys. You know, like I want to be able to contribute

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to like the way they do every single day, and I want to be

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able to push them just as hard as they can push me. So you know, it's honestly, it's it's a team that really drives me. I

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would poleast probably say on the court, and then you know, just being

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able to like stick with these guys and do whatever I can to help them.

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I think that's the biggest thing that's going to drive me. You talked

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about how much this team seems to already have gelled as a team and only

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ten again, ten days to prak y'all may get done three days days,

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but you had ten days of practice and you had a week in Toronto.

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Specifically about the new guys, what is it that I mean, what do

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they like? What did they come in with this attitude that you feel like,

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Okay, you know what you as a freshman or even Treys at first

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year player at Kentucky. I need you to know this. And I've been

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here a year, I've gone through an entire season. UK. This is

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what I want you to know about playing here. What would you like to impart to them? Honestly, I'd probably say just kind of going back to

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my message earlier, but just like perseverance, like having mental perseverance. And

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i'd say a lot of you know a lot of guys. These guys are so good that they want to push themselves to the point where it can be

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detrimental to themselves. The mindset that they can get into. And I would

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say just Trey, probably more than anybody who's played four years of college basketball

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already knows how you know, draining it can be. And so he's really

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good about being positive on himself. I feel like being able a positive influence

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on others. Yeah, And I would just say, for like the freshman, you know, just keeping that positive mindset, you know, like one

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game doesn't define a season. One minute a play doesn't define the whole game,

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you know, So that's that would be my advice for them. All

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right, let's go to some more personal stuff. What is the what is

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your favorite place that you have traveled and not necessarily here, UK, let's

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take your whole life. What's your favorite place that you've ever made a trip

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to. Oh, that's really tough. I would probably say Kawhi, Hawaii,

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Kawhi. Yeah that's okay? Is that mal? No, it's Kawhi.

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It's like the smallest, the smallest one, Okay, all right?

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Other than and I actually I don't know this because when I played here,

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Grant, I knew I wasn't good enough to go to the NBA. So it was never a dream, mister, dream when I was a little kid,

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wasn't a dream when I got here. My dream was to get here

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other than professional basketball. If that's a goal of yours, what is what?

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What is your goal after basketball is over? What is it you want

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to do? I'm honestly not so sure. I want to do something,

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probably in the sports miss industry. Yeah, I'm not really sure. I'm

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pursuing a finance degree right now, minor in Spanish, so okay, kind

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of exploring my options a little bit. But yeah, I'm not really sure

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what I want to do when I'm done. When we have introductions, right,

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Rubberne to twenty two thousand people in their lights off, fireworks going.

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There's always music going, all right. In baseball, it's different. Get

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you get to walk up, right, they play your walk up music?

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Yeah? What's your walk up music? What one song would you like to

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be introduced to? I? Probably, I don't know. It's just a

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song I've liked since I was younger. Probably remember the name for it,

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minor? Is that? Is that a ukulele song? No, it is not. Okay, it is not all right, Thanks for hanging out.

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No, appreciate it. Appreciate a great year, sir. Thank you.

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All right, So we're gonna I'm gonna ask you a few basketball stuff,

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and then we're gonna get personal, not real personal fun, personal