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0:07

Hi, I'm Bill Overton. As our

0:09

series is shown, there were many great

0:11

players from the Negro Leagues, some that

0:13

we all know, like Jackie Robinson, Hank

0:16

Aaron, Satrick Page, and

0:18

some unfortunately that only the players

0:20

from that time remember. Our episode

0:23

today focuses on the players' memories

0:26

of the greats from the Negro League era. Hall

0:31

of Famer Hank Aaron remembers that the level

0:33

of play in the Negro Leagues offered

0:36

players a chance to play in Major

0:38

League baseball.

0:41

When I think back and I've talked with Willie Mays about

0:44

the Negro Leagues, how special that time

0:46

was, What was the cohesiveness, what was

0:48

the general philosophy of the players that played

0:50

in the Negro leagues?

0:52

I think, Ron, I think that we all felt

0:54

like if we could be successful playing in the

0:56

Negro League, that we could probably play in the major leagues.

1:00

All of us basically felt that way because

1:03

usually the players that especially if you're

1:05

a young player and you was playing against players who

1:08

had played a little bit longer

1:10

than you had. They had been

1:12

in the some of them had been in the mount of League,

1:14

some of them had the experience of playing against

1:17

great Negro League players, so we all

1:19

felt like if we could have a

1:21

good year, good season, that you had chance

1:23

to play in in in the major leagues.

1:25

Outfielder Gerald Casten even

1:27

calls growing up watching the great talent

1:30

and then being able to play in the league himself.

1:33

They had so many stars in

1:35

that league who had so much talent. You

1:37

had an opportunity to see them growing

1:39

up as well as when you played in the league itself.

1:41

How would you describe them?

1:43

I was that in the hot, hot,

1:45

dedicated ball just

1:49

at the time that you knew it coming

1:51

along there. It wasn't the right

1:53

time. My mother

1:55

used to taking the ce the name of the league

1:59

back in fifty four fifty five. He

2:01

tag of lunch on Sunday and they playing double hitters

2:03

there. We went to see him. I mean him

2:06

be packed and those gas

2:08

was really good. But I had no idea

2:10

one day I'll be playing in there. You know,

2:13

I always loved the playball. I was pretty good

2:16

in basketball. Then

2:18

he'll be football. And I know my baseball coach,

2:20

and I may say he in high school. His

2:23

name was George Cartman. He told me, he

2:26

said, Castle, you a football player, you

2:28

got a future in baseball. He said, let

2:30

that football coach in and the mother idious

2:33

knock out. They brain. So

2:37

I quit. I had made the football

2:39

team. So I told coach

2:41

Tobin and I said, mister Coche want

2:43

me to quit playing because he want me to, you

2:46

know, for the baseball team. Fac I got a future

2:48

in that. He said, you wait out, I see go George.

2:51

Here's pitcher Hank Mason remembering

2:54

the great players that came out of the Nagle Bags.

2:57

Let me tell you this, some of

2:59

the best baseball players in the world

3:02

come out of the Negro League. And

3:05

Kansas City Monarch sent more

3:08

black baseball, well they had

3:11

to be black, sent more baseball

3:13

players to the Major League

3:16

than any other team in the

3:18

Negro League, or maybe all

3:20

of them combined. There

3:23

was Jackie Robertson,

3:26

Henry Mason, Poncho Herrera,

3:29

Ernie Banks. All of those

3:31

guys came out of the Negro League,

3:34

Hank Aaron of Winnie

3:36

Mays. All of those guys

3:38

came out of the Negro League, and

3:40

they were great baseball player. Now

3:43

I wasn't great, but I didn't

3:45

make it.

3:46

Pitchure Eugene Scrokes recalls the style

3:48

of play in the Negro leagues and how it created

3:51

stars like Willie Mace.

3:52

All of them are very special baseball

3:54

players. What was it that they all did

3:56

that made them so special?

3:58

Eugene, Well, you know we were a made

4:00

You know, he could make some He

4:02

made some some ou standing catches,

4:05

you know over his head, catch you that

4:07

that you never seen that around

4:10

here. He could ruin, he

4:12

could throw, and he

4:15

was a you know, all round ball player.

4:17

Gerald Casten becalls the best pitcher that he

4:19

ever caught for during his time in the

4:21

Negro leagues.

4:22

You were a catcher who was the best pitcher

4:24

that you ever caught?

4:26

Oh, I would say old Bulldog George

4:29

Thomas. He was about roommate in college too,

4:31

and we played sadlo ball

4:33

in Chicago before we went to play

4:36

foot our belieby the Colors every styd.

4:38

Those guys they good fastball. I don't

4:40

know how the tab of bed, but now

4:43

the tab of ending the ninety ninety two ninety

4:46

three with Bulldog Man he had held back.

4:49

I had ever sponge in my head and

4:52

that catched me to catch that guy.

4:54

Pitcher. Eugene Scruggs remember

4:56

striking out Negro League star Bob Wilson

4:59

three times in front of MLB scouts.

5:02

You played against the Kansas City Monarchs,

5:04

and one of the Monarchs players was Bob Wilson,

5:07

and he was really looking forward to playing

5:09

this particular game. Yeah, tell me that

5:11

about that game.

5:13

Yeah, Bob, Bob

5:15

Wilson, he was, Uh.

5:17

He lives in California now,

5:20

so I was told because I

5:22

haven't seen him since the days

5:24

in baseball. But this

5:26

particular game that we were playing in Grand

5:28

redbn uh

5:31

Bob, he he come up to the bed

5:34

three times and uh

5:36

so each time I scrubbed Bob out

5:39

and he come back and told me.

5:41

Uh, he said, you.

5:42

Know anything, he said, I said,

5:44

I tried all I could to hit that ball. Okay,

5:46

but dad talk as s curveball.

5:48

This I could handle.

5:51

And of course he was being scouted that day

5:54

for the major leagues? Was he not? And you he went

5:56

over three You struck him out three times?

5:59

Yeah, he was. He was a his guy

6:01

was all understand he was. Maybe

6:04

that's why that he had strug

6:06

him out, you know, kind of I'm kind

6:09

of there, do you know somebody they're watching.

6:11

His catcherest Fan remembers

6:13

being amazed at the level of talent in

6:15

the Negro leagues.

6:16

Well, I tell you what. I

6:19

was a young kid fourteen,

6:21

fifteen years old, fifteen when

6:23

I went in the Negro League, and

6:26

some of those guys like Dreams

6:29

and the name of Dreason went

6:31

on to the majors. I got a chance

6:33

to see side of pitch and

6:36

I think, no, I didn't

6:38

see Josh s Gipson. I read a book on that.

6:41

What he was talking about points about hitting.

6:44

But a lot of those guys, you

6:46

know, as a kid, you don't remember. But

6:49

the talent battle, Oh my goodness,

6:52

those guys could hit and

6:54

run. I mean they could

6:56

run. I've seen guys

6:58

were playing teams like

7:00

the Birmingham Black baron last game we

7:03

played, they have two lead

7:05

off men. They and during

7:07

that time we were young, we didn't gonna thank not Fundamental

7:10

Couch got it laid ball at our first baby Nick

7:12

thing. You know they aren't standing up on Burnley because

7:16

nobody covers third and

7:19

the title Well, I mean this is something

7:21

we think it out being kids.

7:24

We'll sit there and watch the team. If you

7:26

don't cover that day, we're gonna steal it. And

7:29

all the things that we learned in

7:31

baseball. We have coaches. We

7:34

just got out there and played and figured it out ourselves.

7:37

But as far as the guys

7:39

that I've seen, I've

7:42

seen the greatest first

7:44

day we ever want to say. His name was James

7:46

Ivory, played with the Birmingham Black

7:48

Bearon great son of philom

7:51

Jessin Mitchell and my manager

7:54

played professional baseball. He

7:56

was a three party four hitter in

7:59

triple late in professional baseball,

8:01

and he fell on the same patagory

8:04

high bed they didn't have. They

8:07

had enough black palls on

8:09

the team. Now, let me mind

8:12

remind you this was not a baseball rule.

8:14

This was a rule that the owners

8:17

and the executive executives sit down

8:19

and made up the only two

8:22

black players to a team.

8:24

Pitcher J. C. Casselebury recalls

8:26

his teammates being the best players he had

8:28

seen, including a player who was valued

8:31

higher than Hank Garrett.

8:33

Ja C.

8:33

Let me ask you a little bit about the players that

8:36

you played against her you've witnessed and watched,

8:38

because the Negro League certainly had so many

8:40

great You already mentioned about Willie Mays

8:42

and others like that Hank Aaron, But

8:45

tell me some of the other players that stood out

8:47

to you while you were playing, either playing

8:49

against or playing.

8:50

With the guys. Well, the guy

8:52

that stood out with me was most

8:54

of guys on my team, Joe

8:57

Cherry. We picked

8:59

him up and Virginia Beach one

9:01

Sunday. H he was like

9:04

me. He could catch, he could catch, he could

9:06

play first page, second base.

9:08

Uh.

9:08

As a matter of fact, when we played in Yanks, stay and I caught

9:11

him.

9:12

Uh.

9:12

Another guy was Van Rushing out

9:15

of Arizona.

9:17

Van Rushing. I think they sold Hank

9:19

Aaron for twenty five thousand and they

9:22

sold Van Rushing for like fifty thousand.

9:24

Varan Rushman was the only guy that they

9:26

sold for more money than than hack Era. And

9:29

then we had another guy named uh kinda

9:32

getty shortstop. Hecker

9:35

was shortstop from New York City. And

9:37

then we had a guy by the name of Green

9:40

shortstop. And then we had double duty, who

9:42

was the left and right handed pitcher, and

9:45

uh Carl Phony. Carl

9:48

Phony, I can't understand today why

9:50

he didn't make it to the major league because he had he

9:52

was a pitcher, but he had everything he

9:55

had. He was throwing. Uh

9:57

slaughtered before slater

10:00

were fashionable, and

10:02

he had every pitch he threw

10:04

moved, His fastball

10:07

moved it jumped everything

10:10

he do then. That was

10:12

Bobby Deale, Bobby Miville and I played

10:14

together in Birmingham and the industrialg

10:17

Bobbyville threw so hard he

10:21

the catcher. We at big man Bobmyville

10:24

picked his hand through the net in

10:27

field.

10:27

Original Howard recalls his memory

10:29

of Uncle Jim Taylor as his manager.

10:32

With your close friend, Candy, Jim Taylor, you

10:34

alluded to him a little bit earlier, legendary

10:37

Negro league manager. Tell me a little bit about

10:39

his history.

10:40

I loved Dule Jim. Every baby, everybody,

10:42

everybody called him Uncle Jim, Oscar Charleston

10:45

and Buck

10:47

O'Neil, all young man's everybody

10:50

called him Uncle Jim. I don't

10:52

know if I was as

10:54

close to Uncle Jim as a kid can

10:56

be you a child can be to you, old

10:58

man. For some reason, we hit it off.

11:00

He comes through. I'm a black

11:03

team. Well I was his team,

11:05

bad boss, all these black teams that came in here in

11:07

the South. The play to pay the

11:09

student to take and again

11:12

I met up with Jim when he when they came

11:14

in, and we hit it off. And sago

11:16

in Chicago, periodic for you to see him and and

11:19

uh in fact that I worked the East West

11:21

Game in nineteen forty six forty seven, which

11:24

is the All Star game. But

11:26

he was, he was just he's just so much I

11:28

love I love him talk a

11:31

long part. Oh he could talk so bad.

11:33

The most brought up name when asking about

11:36

legends in the Negro League was

11:38

the Satchel Page. E. Lloyd

11:40

Robinson remembers Satchel's ability to make

11:42

his pitches move.

11:44

You mentioned about Satchel Page. That is the name,

11:46

probably along with Buck O'Neill and maybe

11:48

a handful of others that people remember

11:51

most about the Negro League. Tell me a little

11:53

bit about him, because aside from being nice,

11:55

tell me about his baseball skills.

11:57

Oh, he could throw the ball leg lightning,

11:59

and they didn't do nothing that went straight.

12:02

And everything he throw it went up down

12:04

cross ways, aside ways or some kind

12:06

of way. He never he never

12:08

throw a State price.

12:10

Yeah he has.

12:12

And Buck Leonard hit the ball so hard and

12:14

looked like.

12:14

He was just throwing them up here.

12:16

Number Reginald Howard

12:18

also remembers the influence of cool

12:21

Papa Bell and the work ethic of Satchel

12:23

Page that made him a highly paid player.

12:26

Most people, if they know anything about the negro legs

12:28

know those last three names about h

12:30

you know Coo, Papa Bell and the others. Tell me about

12:33

them, what you know? What was fact and what was

12:35

fiction about him?

12:36

Uh?

12:37

I don't want to try to stay with them more than Fixtion

12:40

Suther. I can't under stay with that. Am I

12:42

even discuss it?

12:43

But uh, a lot like that?

12:45

What from Jimmy Crush you I don't know if you know Jimmy

12:48

was on that same team. He lived in the same building my brother

12:50

lived in in Chicago, and every

12:52

time I go Chicago, I would just got

12:54

to get with him and spend as much time as I possibly

12:57

could. Uh, Jimmy And

13:00

the one thing that was so outstanding about

13:02

Bail and I really admire for

13:05

this. I've never heard anybody

13:08

echo or disparaging worry about him. The

13:10

first class gentleman all

13:12

the way around. And I just, I just I

13:15

really admire that so much.

13:16

When it came to Satchel Page, you know, the great line

13:19

is that he was so fast that he could turn out the

13:21

light and he could get more.

13:22

That's that's fool. I don't even

13:24

like to discuss that kind of stuff. No,

13:27

I'm not serious. That's

13:30

a waste of time when we could do something meaningful

13:33

that said that other people can even we can get out

13:35

meaning for information and not throughout that kind of garbage.

13:38

Well, when you say meaningful, tell me a little bit. What's

13:40

meaningful to you is somebody that played in

13:42

the negro leags.

13:44

Well let's take it from from a social

13:46

standpoint of view. Let's take let's

13:48

take saxral page and

13:50

this thing I loved about Secha A lot of people

13:53

will looms. I explained to you Lego

13:55

League games being played three days a week,

13:57

Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Okay, let's

14:00

day Satuo pitchure Saturday

14:03

at Movemart Barton, Kansas City,

14:05

or gets the Memphis Red six and he pitches

14:07

a good game. Or at Sunday,

14:11

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, the fourth

14:13

days is it turned again. But

14:15

they're playing somebody in uh Lloyd,

14:19

Wisconsin. You know a

14:21

little bit of a Barsoman now just a

14:23

little bit ahead of a high school team. So

14:25

why would they use it wouldn't use a good pitcher on that

14:27

day. However, three weeks ahead

14:29

of time, a team in minor in North

14:31

Dakota or in Rochester neet

14:34

Rochester, Minnesota, say hey,

14:36

we want to hire Satcha for that day. I called

14:39

him a hire gun. And Satcha would

14:41

go there and pitch for that for that team on

14:43

that on that on that Wednesday. But

14:47

he would pitch there. But then he come back Thursday,

14:49

Friday, Saturday, Sunday. They playing in Memphis

14:51

Ballpark four in Satchue Pages pitch. He

14:54

did a lot of that. He did a lot of

14:56

leading the club that he was with and go

14:58

and pitch out out our side of the Negro

15:01

Leaf. And that's why he was one

15:03

of the highest plee players in baseball.

15:06

Pitcher Hank Mason because his time playing

15:08

with Satchel Page and his ability

15:11

to control his pitches, along

15:13

with his humor and kindness.

15:15

Let me tell you I never played

15:17

with Satchel in the Negro

15:20

League, but after I

15:23

advanced to tripa

15:25

a baseball with the Miami

15:28

Marlins, that's where I played

15:30

with Sachel. Sachel,

15:33

his strength was controlled.

15:36

He could throw it about any place that he

15:39

wanted to throw it and as hard

15:41

as he wanted to throw it. If he wanted

15:43

to throw it on the outside corner, he could

15:45

do. I tell you what. When

15:49

we would go to the book, and Satchel and

15:51

I were relief

15:53

pitches. I was a long

15:55

man and he was a short man. And

15:59

Satchel could take a chewing

16:02

gum wrapper and

16:05

throw it just right on the corner,

16:07

down the middle, any place that he

16:09

wanted to throw it. And I think that

16:12

was Satchel's success.

16:14

He also had a great personality, did he not.

16:16

I've heard that he was very.

16:18

Funny, very

16:20

very funny. Yeah he was. You

16:22

know, I don't know how much money Satchel

16:25

was making, but some

16:28

mornings, like we were

16:30

in Toronto or Montreal

16:32

or someplace like that, he always

16:34

called me country boy. I came

16:37

from Marshall, Missouri, and he was from

16:39

Kansas City, and he

16:41

would call me up say hey, country boy,

16:44

you want something to eat for

16:46

breakfast?

16:47

I said yeah, He.

16:48

Said, well come on over, and I would

16:50

go over and he'd have a corn

16:53

bee, pash poach days

16:56

and hash browns

16:58

toes and all of that kind of

17:00

stuff. And I couldn't afford that kind of

17:02

stuff, not on my salary, but

17:05

he could do it. And maybe

17:09

six or seven times while

17:12

we were on a road trip, that's what he would

17:14

do. He would invite you over to his

17:17

room in the morning time to eat breakfast

17:20

with him.

17:21

Picture. Don Woods remembers the first time

17:23

he saw Satral Page and the advice that Satchel

17:25

Page gave it.

17:27

Tell me about the first time you ever saw

17:29

Satchel Page.

17:30

Okay, the first time

17:33

I met sech Is, which

17:36

I didn't realize until after. We had a

17:38

conversation about some of the things

17:41

he has accomplished, and

17:43

I realized then that I'm in a company

17:45

of somebody who's really one

17:48

of a king. He

17:50

was a person that was was one

17:53

who knew what he was talking about, especially with baseball.

17:57

He was very confident, and

18:00

I was really really impressed

18:02

with him, and to me saying

18:05

to myself, here, I'm sitting in the nug

18:07

out next to this guy calls at

18:09

your page.

18:11

What was the best piece of advice he ever gave you,

18:13

Don.

18:14

He told me one of the things I can recall very

18:16

well. He says, when you're pitching, never

18:19

ever get nervous, because your

18:22

opponent you're better. They can tell

18:24

if you're nervous. Always take control

18:26

of the game and know what

18:28

you're doing, and become confident

18:31

when you're out there.

18:32

You know, it's always been said about him, how fast

18:35

he was. And of course the great line is,

18:37

I think this came from his roommate said he was so fast

18:39

that when he turned off the light, he got in bed before it

18:41

got dark. But tell me, what were the little

18:44

things about him that made him special?

18:46

Okay?

18:47

I think that some of the things that he

18:49

did especially And I

18:51

asked him, you know, I said, you know such,

18:54

I've read a lot of things about you and

18:56

statements they say that you've done over

18:58

period of over five

19:01

decades that you've been playing baseball. And

19:03

I said that how much of that is true? He

19:05

said, let me tell you one thing. He says,

19:08

any statement I made, I had

19:10

to proof those statements to make sure

19:12

it was correct. So he says,

19:15

anything you read about me is

19:17

true.

19:19

Everything I'm hearing. Everything I'm hearing

19:21

about him is that he had a sense of humor

19:23

as well.

19:24

Oh he was, he was, and I think

19:26

that probably made him as

19:30

such a great ball player. He

19:32

never, to me, seemed to be tight,

19:35

and he enjoyed the game.

19:37

Do you remember any of the stories that he shared

19:39

with you that made you laugh?

19:41

Oh?

19:41

Yeah, he wanted The stories he

19:43

told me was that when he went

19:46

to I forget exactly the

19:48

location, but he would always guarantee

19:51

wherever he played, he was

19:53

guaranteed that the first six outs would

19:55

be struckouts. In addition

19:58

to that, during mid during

20:00

a h say, for instance, a

20:03

third inning went out, he would

20:05

bring his outfielders into the dugout,

20:07

hel him sit down, and he would pitch, and

20:09

they could never get the ball out and outfield.

20:12

Why was that?

20:13

I mean?

20:13

What was his pitches? What did he do with

20:15

his throws?

20:16

You know what?

20:17

I think?

20:17

What made him so great?

20:20

He had pinpoint control. All

20:23

of his pinches, pitches were knee

20:25

high. He can

20:28

you know, he could throw a

20:30

ball over a match book with no

20:33

problem every time.

20:36

By doing that, did the opposition the other

20:38

players get upset that maybe he was showing

20:40

them up? Or was that not a part of the

20:42

baseball lore at that time?

20:44

I think that they considered

20:46

him as being someone above

20:49

level of everybody else, and

20:51

they didn't make him man. They were not mad,

20:54

but in fact they were praising him

20:57

on the telling he had in a lot of cases

20:59

as oh old as he was playing against

21:01

those younger guys.

21:03

Was there a game that you happened to witness personally

21:05

that you'll never forget that he pitched.

21:09

Well. When he played with us,

21:12

which was sixty three. He was

21:14

there as a show card. He

21:16

played a couple of innings and

21:19

I know at that time he was like fifty

21:22

some years old, and the

21:24

few better that he faced,

21:27

out of maybe six betters, he

21:29

struck out three of them. So he still

21:31

had his speed, he had still

21:33

had his control, and

21:36

he was just something to see.

21:38

Yeah, how old was he? Because there was always

21:40

some question about his age when he was playing,

21:42

particularly later in his career, Like you you just

21:45

talked about.

21:46

Yeah, well, there's always been

21:49

a saying that nobody knew exactly

21:51

how old he was. So it

21:55

said that he was like, I

21:58

guess when he finished playing, he was like at

22:01

the age of fifty five. I he said something

22:04

about he's who harder than anyone

22:06

in his generation. But

22:10

the Rectors says that really, who

22:12

knows how old he was?

22:15

Infielder Dennis Biddle closes out

22:17

an episode by remembering some of his heroes

22:20

and his memory of meeting Shackie.

22:22

Robinson, players like Ted double

22:24

Do the Red Cliff. He should have been in the Hall

22:26

of Fame. He didn't play

22:28

in the Major League because he missed his calling.

22:33

Josh Johnson. He

22:35

was a catcher for the home tirh grade. When

22:38

Josh Jeffson came in as a youngster,

22:40

it took his plate because he went to

22:42

the military. Bobbie

22:46

Robinson, who was a human

22:48

bathroom playing around third base, traveled

22:52

with me many years. Told

22:55

me about Ty Cobb and

22:58

how time him in to car was good

23:00

friend and nobody liked

23:03

call Cogs. That

23:06

was the other players too. I

23:09

met Jackie in nineteen fifty

23:11

five. Uh,

23:14

God, just came in and

23:16

I was with the Cubs. I was with the Cubs

23:19

of the free agent and Jackie

23:21

and I had a dinner downtown Chicago.

23:23

Not Jacket, just me.

23:25

It was five of us heard

23:27

the bank, Jean Baker, Rock,

23:29

Cameron, Llen, Nukelem didn't show up. But

23:33

you know, and I often talk about

23:35

this because it's the highlight, one of the highlights

23:38

on my life, meeting Jacket. I had heard

23:40

about him, I read about him and

23:43

things that he went through. And

23:45

here I am sitting across the table from

23:47

him, and he

23:49

didn't look real to me. His hair

23:52

was white, and I

23:55

I looked at him and he said, you know, kid,

23:57

He called me kid. They

24:00

cannot write in a book of

24:02

showing a movie what I went through and

24:07

see. I knew what jack

24:09

had gone through in the Negro League and made

24:11

the league too, because hey, I gone through

24:13

it myself and the Negro League

24:16

many time.

24:16

I wanted to go home to Mama.

24:19

So I asked, mister Robinson, did you ever

24:22

think about quitting?

24:24

I did.

24:25

He looked at me and said every day. He

24:29

said, I thought about it every day, But I have

24:31

made a problem that I would open the

24:33

door so other Blacks will be able to play

24:35

in the Major League. That's something

24:38

mister Robinson told me that I'll

24:40

always be here. His

24:43

wife was one hundred years old now as

24:46

a friend of mine. I have pictures

24:48

of me and her and I

24:55

that woman had some curse. That knew

24:58

the woman.

24:58

I think.

25:01

If he did some things that I

25:04

don't. I don't understand how she made it too,

25:08

but she did. So

25:11

That's one of the highlights of my life meeting Jackie

25:13

Robinson. Of course I met a lot of other

25:16

players. I met Frank Robinson, and I met

25:18

uh Well. Of course, Willie made was

25:20

one of us. Hank Erret and I was

25:23

good friends. But

25:25

there was a lot of other players. Buck

25:28

Leonard should have been in the Hall of Fame. He

25:30

should be in the Hall of Fame.

25:32

Uh.

25:34

There are a lot of other players too. There was a

25:36

lot of players that I saw play, Sir.

25:39

I saw them play, unbelievable

25:42

players. It was in the thirties

25:45

that would have been Hall of famers in the Major

25:48

League, but they never had

25:50

a chance.

25:59

Behind the Bear Voices from

26:01

the Negro Leagues is narrated

26:03

by Bill Overton, produced by Taylor

26:05

Haber. Executive producers

26:08

are Jason Wykehelp, Darren Peck,

26:10

and Ron Barr.

26:11

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