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tore .

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What's up guys? Welcome to the Behind the Golf Brand

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podcast. This week I have my good friend

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Justin Bryant from Rapsodo . If

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you guys don't know who Rapsodo is, then you probably are

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not playing golf because they make some

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of the best tech out there. They have the New

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MLM two Pro, which we're gonna be talking about today. They

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have the original Rapsodo , which I've done tons of content

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on, and then also they

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make the technology in the St plus,

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which we just learned when making those

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content videos. So it's really exciting to have Justin

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on the show to learn more about Justin and

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talk about the new Rapsodo MLM two Pro.

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So welcome to the show,

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Paul. Thanks for having me on. Excited to , excited

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to talk about some , uh, some golf, some Rapsodo

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and everything in between. No, I

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Appreciate it. I mean, so I'm

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gonna tell you guys a story. So like, so Rap

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Soto was like announced at the P g A

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show, right? And so like Justin had

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me, I was like the very first person on the

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list that morning. I like, 'cause he got me. He's

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like , I'll get you in Tuesday or Wednesday morning. Dude,

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I freaking ran over there. We shot a video in

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like, I don't know, like seven minutes

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probably. I made a bunch of B-roll. It's probably the worst video

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ever shot in my entire life. And he's explained

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how Rapsodo worked . Dude , that video blew

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up. Like that video blew up.

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And I knew at that point it was a busy day.

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It was a crazy week.

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It was, man, it was, no, I appreciate you being out

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there. And yeah , the excitement was awesome. And then , uh, glad

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we glad we could get you in , uh, as one of the

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first people to test it out. 'cause

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that was, yeah, that was news really . News had dropped. We had

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hinted at it. You , you know, you had known about it beforehand,

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but we had hinted at it to the public and, but

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no one really knew what was coming. And , uh, so yeah,

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it was an

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Exciting, it look like couple days . I mean, I guess, yeah,

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I mean, I guess Gulf Ity had dropped that YouTube

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video that morning or something. So I ki

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I , I remember seeing the vid , like the

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image, but that's all I knew about it. I knew it was coming.

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I was like, I can't wait to see this thing. This thing's

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gonna be exciting. Let , let's let the audience tell . Let's more,

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more about you first. Now you are a golf

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pro. I always ask that question. And dude,

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Justin really is a golf pro. Um , <laugh>

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, so retired golf pro . I know that Retired

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golf pro, but still, like, I always ask that

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question to my audience and then they're

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like, oh no, I suck. And I'm like, I know

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Justin's good. So, so tell

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me, so where did you grow up then?

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Yeah, so I grew up in St. Louis, where , where

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, uh, our rep Soto US

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headquarters is actually located. So it's

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great for me, but grew up in St. Louis, went

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to Wake Forest University in North

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Carolina. Was lucky to play on the golf team there under

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, uh, coach , uh, Jerry Es

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and then graduated in 2012.

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And I wanted to , I wanted to be host hosting

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or hoisting the trophies on the P g A tour. So I

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chased that for a long time. Never made

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it to the p g a tour, but played, you know, Korn Ferry

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events, many tours up in Canada. I

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played in anything and everything I could find. Uh, just

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wanted to compete and get better. And

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then , um, was, I

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have , uh, I'm married, I have a couple kids and

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wanted to, you know, loved golf and was

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looking around in St. Louis to kind of see what

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the, the next opportunity was is , you know, the

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game. I wasn't playing well enough and , and being on

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the road was tough and , uh, got connected

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with art. Who was the GM or Cho everybody.

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Yeah , he doesn't Art art's man

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. He's so cool.

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He is the man and he's, he's been in the

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golf industry for a long time. Uh, used

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to be a Titleist and uh , was connecting

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with him and, you know, found out

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about Rep Soto and I wanted to be, wanted to be a part of

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it. So I've probably been at

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Rep Soto for about three years now. Uh, the

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first year was kind of just helping out with some

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product testing and things like that. Then moved

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into a full-time role with product development

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and testing and then moved over

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kind of to the marketing side, community management , uh,

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over the last , uh, year. So it's been

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a really exciting journey for me to be , uh,

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really involved in M L M two Pro

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and kind of its inception and us talking about it and listening

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to , uh, consumers, what they

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were wanting with M L M, how they were liking that

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and one they wanted to , other features

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they wanted to see , um, in it. And

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kind of how we crafted that into the new product. So it's

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been really cool , um, and an exciting

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project. And now that it's finally in user's hands,

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it's, it's been awesome to see the reception of it. Did

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You grow up? Like were you really good? I

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mean, when it's a , I mean, as a kid, would your dad was

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a dad pro or what'd you get str did you get lessons

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or what?

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Yeah, so my dad, that was kind of the thing

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we did together. So he loved golf.

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Um, he was the club champion out at

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, uh, Bel Rie Country Club one year, which has

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hosted a bunch of majors. It's a tough golf course. And so

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I grew up playing out there with him and , and

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competing with him. And so always

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loved the game, always loved sports. And

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kind of in high school , uh, is

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when I realized, you know, I'm not gonna make

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it to the N B A and and golf is,

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was something I love to do and I wanted to go, you

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know, full in on that. So that's

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when I started playing more, more events, but

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very different route than a lot of kids nowadays

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take with, you know, the A A G A and all these developmental

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tours and or programs and,

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you know, traveling the country. That's not something I really

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did as a junior. I played a lot locally

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and , and got better. And luckily locally

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we had a ton of really good players.

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Scott Langley was at my same age. He

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won the NCAAs, played on the p g

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a tour for a little bit Adam Long, I

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grew up playing with , uh, a ton. Uh,

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he went to Duke and then he's on the p g A tour now

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he's, he's one out there. Um, and

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a bunch of other guys that played D one

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Golf. So we had, we had a ton of good competition

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locally, which really benefited me coach

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how at Wake Forest took

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a chance on me. Definitely didn't have like the

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resume of a lot of good players, but , um, I

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had, you know, a decent resume. I had qualified for the Usam

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as an 18 year old and , um, won

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some, some local regional stuff , um, and

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just try to continue to get better. So , um,

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I wanted to go to Wake because I knew there were gonna be better players

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there. Um, we , Simpson was there when

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I was a , a freshman and um, obviously

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he's had an, an unreal career and I

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just wanted to surround myself with really good players. 'cause I

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thought that was my best opportunity to get better is to

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get pushed by by people like that.

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So yeah, they're teammates. Yeah,

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I wasn't, I was not like a standout junior

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or anything by that measure.

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How hard was it, like week ? Is

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it hard to like try to get on a tour in

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like your card ?

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Yeah, it's, it's um, it's

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amazing because like once college, it's

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a little different now than when I graduated and

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I wouldn't have qualified for these. But you know, now they have like

6:36

the P g a Tour U program I think. So there's

6:38

like certain exemptions guys could get,

6:40

but essentially it's like a clean slate, you

6:42

know? Uh, golf's great in the fact that

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if you shoot the scores, you know, if you work

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hard, shoot the numbers. Like they can't stop you, you

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know, it's not like the N B A or the

6:52

N F L where they're, you know, evaluating your size

6:54

and how you throw the ball and things like that. Like you could

6:56

have funky action, you know, with your swing, but

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if you go out there and shoot 66, like, no

7:02

, nobody cares. You know, that's, that's all <crosstalk> don't

7:04

Say anything. They're gonna be like, oh crap, they , that dude's

7:06

good.

7:06

It's getting the ball in the hole. So it , that's

7:08

, that's like the beautiful thing about golf , um,

7:11

is you , you, it's on you. You go do

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it and shoot the scores you can get in. Um, what's

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really difficult about Pro is like, it's

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a really fine line between making it

7:21

and not. Um, and I think that's why you see

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guys, you know, you hear these stories every year. Like

7:25

for instance, Eric Cole, I've played a

7:27

ton of golf with him. He is on the P G A tour this year, got

7:29

second at the Honda Classic, but

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like, I think he's around my age, but

7:35

he was al always a really good player, but

7:37

like took a couple years off was teaching and

7:39

then, you know, kept, went back after it

7:41

and now he is on the P G A tour and having a, a

7:43

great season. So it's just a , you

7:45

know, a fine line. I don't know if he would say

7:47

his game got a whole lot better. I'm sure, I'm

7:49

sure it did in those years, but it's like playing well

7:51

at the right time and then when you, when you get that, it's

7:54

capitalizing on those moments. So it's,

7:56

it's tough man. There's so many good players out

7:59

there and everyone's, there's only so many spots

8:01

, um, to play for each week.

8:03

You know, there's 140 guys playing

8:05

each week, 200 some guys with

8:07

the , with tour cards and uh , there's

8:10

thousands and thousands of people that want to get out there and play.

8:12

So , um, I miss the competing

8:14

aspect of it. I don't miss the, the

8:17

travel and, and the , the grind,

8:18

Right? Yeah.

8:19

I like part of the grind of it, but it's, it's

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, uh, it's tough, you know, playing

8:24

like 30 weeks outta the year and you don't

8:26

make any money until you get to the p g a tour. So,

8:29

you know, you're, so how

8:30

Do you do that? Like, if you, like you're not making any , did

8:32

you have a side job or is that like, or do you have a

8:34

sponsor or like how do you pay for

8:36

all , all these entry fees to get in all these tournaments?

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Yeah, I had some side gigs and then you have people

8:41

that kind of believe in you and, and , and help

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you out. Um, that, that

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, uh, that I was fortunate to have and did

8:47

some fun , uh, fundraising to , to make it , make

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it happen. So, yeah. But it's, it's,

8:52

it's a grind now , but now , yeah . You're only , now

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I'm an amateur, so I, I, you know, re reapplied

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to get my amateur status back and now, now

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I'm just trying to live the MidAm life. And

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You're probably like make , are you playing like anything on the weekends

9:03

and stuff, or not really? 'cause you're so busy with your family

9:05

and like with work. Yeah,

9:06

It's been a , it's, you know, work work , um,

9:08

has been awesome this year and we have a lot of exciting things

9:10

going on. So that, and then I've, I have three

9:13

boys and they love baseball. They do love golf

9:15

and , uh, managing that. But I try

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to, you know, still compete when I can. I wanna play

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in the, you know, the MidAm, the U S a , uh,

9:22

actually won , um, local qualifying

9:25

for the US Open recently. So I'm

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onto , holy crap, I'm onto , uh, I'm

9:29

know if Oh , that's cool . Sectionals or final stage , uh,

9:32

June 5th. So I'm hoping I

9:34

can , uh, put together 36 good holes , uh,

9:37

and get and get through that. That's

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Awesome. I didn't know that. That's a big deal, dude.

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Yeah, I'm excited. It's

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all that work with him . You know, the M LM two Pro, I

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can see my, I got , I got the number .

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I mean , if you guys see how good , how much he's training, just

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watch the Rapsodo commercial. 'cause he is like

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in IT training <laugh> , right?

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That's right. I'm like , that's , that's coaching me up

9:54

and yeah,

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I mean, you get the best, right? Then you're , you the

9:57

best you have to perform.

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Exactly.

9:59

When, when did you come on at Rap Soto

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? Like two years ago.

10:03

I think I've been full-time for two years,

10:05

but , um, I've, I feel like I've been helping in

10:07

some capacity with some of our projects

10:09

now for about three years. So it was just

10:11

Because you were working with Jake, weren't you?

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Yeah, Jake and part of our product team.

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So just, you know, we rigorously

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test our devices, you know, daily that

10:20

a lot to pro . We do a lot of

10:22

testing and refinement and we're always, you know, working

10:24

on improvements for new things that

10:26

are coming out. So, you know, people will see new things

10:28

get released. Like we had our combines feature released

10:31

last, last August, last September, yeah,

10:33

Last I

10:34

Remember that. And we were , we've been working on that for a while

10:36

with , uh, Sasha McKenzie in terms of kind

10:38

of how we wanted to structure it and the data, the

10:40

scoring, you know, refining that. And um,

10:43

so we have a lot of projects going on in the background

10:45

that we're working on. Um, so features,

10:48

I'm trying

10:48

A part of

10:48

Those, a lot of features for the, for

10:51

the new unit, is that what you're talking about? Like just new

10:53

that's gonna be coming out or what?

10:55

Yeah, so features for the M L M or

10:57

the MLM two Pro. So M l M, you know

10:59

, even though we , we have a new product out, the MLM is

11:01

still a product that we're passionate about, it's

11:03

, uh, now it's 2

11:05

99 instead of 4 9 9. So , uh, insanely

11:08

good deal. Uh, and we're gonna , you know ,

11:10

A smoking deal

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Still

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Have , uh, you really can't get a unit for a better

11:13

price right now for under 300 bucks. Like

11:15

seriously, it , that's

11:16

Pretty crazy with video and data can't , it's nothing out there.

11:19

Can't

11:19

Think there's nothing. And I think that's one of the problems

11:21

I think fights go's having with the

11:23

, um, Evo. It's like, it's still 500

11:25

bucks. It's like, dude, you

11:28

know, the regular Evo , not the new Evo

11:30

plus, but like, you know, it's like you're

11:32

now $200 more than the rap soda

11:35

. I mean, you're a five-year-old unit or a

11:37

four year old unit, you should really be like, like there's

11:39

no one competing at you in that price point. Really. I

11:41

can think of $300

11:43

They're, they're doing really, I mean it's always , it's

11:45

been a product that, you know, the m l m we launched in 2019

11:48

and it's always had a , you know, a ton

11:50

of , uh, interest and success and uh,

11:52

that price point. You know, that's something as a company,

11:54

you know, we wanna make affordable, you

11:57

know, products for people that we, you know, really

11:59

high quality products, but definitely more

12:01

accessible. Um, that's how Rep Soto

12:03

was , you know, started , um, was our founder, who's

12:06

an engineer , um, was hitting balls

12:08

and, you know, he wanted to track his data and saw

12:11

anything that was out there was really, you know, unachievable

12:14

for a lot of people to afford. So that's,

12:16

that's really at the core of core of our company as well,

12:18

is we wanna have really high quality products,

12:20

but something that, you know, people can afford

12:23

and they're not taking out a , a mortgage to get Yeah,

12:26

A unit. Yeah. So right

12:28

now Rapsodo has two main products, right? They

12:30

have original Rapsodo and then the Rapsodo

12:32

Emblem two Pro. So original Soto is

12:35

2 99. And then I guess like

12:37

in case people don't understand like the difference between two

12:39

units , uh, the original Rapsodo

12:41

, how is it different than the new Rapsodo , the

12:44

Original rep Soto ? Um , when you buy it, it's

12:46

, it's a radar unit inside of it. So

12:49

it, you know, it flips up, it uses the radar, but

12:51

it takes also, you know, you put your phone or your iPad

12:53

on top of the unit and we utilize the camera

12:55

in that. So the original m l m has is radar

12:58

and camera based , which is really unique for a launch monitor

13:00

in general. Most are normally radar based

13:03

or camera based , but we actually had both

13:05

technologies incorporated , uh,

13:07

into the original one. So it gives you a

13:09

lot of metrics. You can see your swing automatically behind

13:12

it , um, and you get the shot trace. But

13:14

with that, there was other things that people really wanted

13:16

that, that the M L M doesn't have. So

13:19

a lot of people really wanted spin numbers. They

13:21

really wanted the ability to add another camera , um,

13:23

you know, a little higher angle. So we

13:26

really took all of that feedback into the MLM two

13:28

Pro. So that's why you kind of, when you see the MLM

13:30

two Pro, the cameras are integrated into

13:32

the unit itself, so that way you can

13:34

kind of take your tablet Android

13:37

, uh, that's a big differentiator is Android

13:39

is MLM two Pro , um, iOS

13:41

and Android is for M two Pro and the mlm

13:43

original MLM is only iOS. Um,

13:47

but you can remove your device, so it's not, you

13:49

know, you need to connect , um, your tablet

13:51

to the MLM two Pro, but you don't have

13:53

to have it behind you. We do have cool notches

13:55

in the tripod where you can sit it there if you'd like to, but

13:58

yeah ,

13:58

It's really cool feature. That's a cool, like , design feature,

14:01

But you can have it, you know, your buddy can hold it, you

14:03

can put it wherever you want. Um, so the

14:05

flexibility to be able to, to put that where everyone's

14:07

cool. Um, the unit itself's a little taller,

14:09

so that's a really unique design. Uh

14:11

, and that was done on purpose because we were trying to get

14:13

that camera angle angle as high as we could. 'cause the

14:16

m l M one , uh, yeah, was, it's just, you

14:18

know, we didn't want to make it really tall, obviously,

14:20

and kind of have it, you know, in the way we

14:22

want. We want the MLM two Pro, like once you're down , uh,

14:24

put it down and using it , um, you kind of

14:26

almost forget it's behind you, you know, you're interacting

14:29

with it and seeing your numbers and seeing your videos, but you

14:31

almost like, kind of forget the units , uh,

14:33

sitting there. Um , really sleek design.

14:35

So with that, we have two cameras integrated and

14:38

we're built , um, able to measure

14:40

the spin and spin axis with those R P T balls.

14:42

So , uh, that's been a really exciting thing,

14:44

especially for people at home that have, you know, limited ball

14:47

flight. We can give you the spin and spin axis , uh,

14:49

really accurately measured. Uh, and

14:51

then lastly, you have simulation. So we

14:54

have a cool three D range that you can set up, see

14:56

your, your numbers with your shot trace, but also

14:58

the ability to play 30,000 courses so,

15:00

you know, very high likelihood that you can play your

15:02

home course or you know, your bucket list course

15:04

right at your house. And all you really need

15:07

is , uh, the M lmm two pro, you

15:09

know, a club, a net and a mat. You can, you

15:11

make it as nice as you want, you can buy that, you

15:13

know, nice , uh, bay and have

15:15

the projector, or you can just have , um,

15:18

you know, a simple net and mat up , which is

15:20

great. So

15:21

I just realized I can like, pull up stuff on the

15:23

podcast. Huh ? Show it , show . I should just show pictures.

15:25

I was like, I should just really make this really fancy

15:27

this, this livestream. So yeah, like

15:30

, so this is the rap episode two pro , and it's

15:32

like, first of all, I think ergonomically, it looks really

15:34

select , like, I mean , it's cool , mean , it just looks,

15:36

It's super cool. Nothing else is out out there that looks like

15:38

it. So like when you see it, you're okay. That's the Rapsodo,

15:41

you know, you're not like trying to figure out what's what. Yeah,

15:44

I mean, it stands up probably what, like

15:46

two, two foot and a half, two feet, maybe

15:49

tops

15:50

And a half . I should know the answer to that, but I

15:52

don't remember, I don't remember how high it is

15:54

. It's, it's essentially, it's, I

15:56

would say like 18 inches maybe. Yeah,

15:58

18 inches

15:59

I would say too . So the tripod , uh, disconnects

16:01

from the unit itself, so it's really, you

16:03

know, portable, you could easily, I keep mine in

16:05

my golf bag , um, and it's

16:07

easy to <crosstalk> .

16:08

Yeah, that's one thing I really like. It's like the tripod feature.

16:10

I think it should be on the site . Like here's a ,

16:12

It's really compact . There you go. So you can kind of see it

16:14

and scale with a phone. So , um,

16:17

Yeah, I mean, so like, it's cool, like here's those notch

16:20

as he was talking about. So you can put your iPad,

16:22

like right here, let's say, and it would still

16:24

be there and it won't , but it won't get in the way of

16:26

the camera or any of the other systems . Yeah

16:28

. Which is really cool. So the

16:29

Trip tripod on one and then pop this off. Yeah,

16:31

you can pop it off you , the tripod on this one. So you

16:34

can actually put it either way. So if

16:36

there's one leg in front that's supposed to be the iPhone,

16:38

or you can actually turn the tripod around

16:40

and connect it that way so that you have the two legs

16:42

in the front. And that's meant for the iPad.

16:44

That's right . Yeah.

16:45

That's so cool. Yeah,

16:47

You guys really thought what you were doing, you

16:49

know, when you were designing this, like, not

16:51

just like the outside of the technology, but

16:54

just the way the unit sits because like

16:56

that's , I mean , that's that , I think that's kind of one of the problems

16:59

with a lot of the units that are out there right

17:01

now. Like, you know , um, like

17:03

the Mevo plus, it's like you always have to kind of get the angle

17:05

right and like, you know, do all that. I

17:07

know the new Mevo plus 2023 version doesn't

17:09

have that issue, but like, you know , you have to make sure it's

17:12

not like tilted or whatever. And here

17:14

you just set it down and you

17:16

just set up with your phone and then there's like

17:18

a, I guess explain to the

17:20

audience like how it works. There's really, there's two cameras on

17:22

this new system, right?

17:24

Exactly. Yeah. Just in terms of setup

17:26

, I want to touch on real quick. So it's, it's really

17:28

easy. You turn it on, you know, you connect it,

17:30

you put it down, you turn it on, connect it to your phone

17:32

or tablet, and when you start a practice

17:34

session, we'll actually kind of show this alignment tool.

17:36

So we'll show a line of your target line

17:39

and a box of where the ball goes. So we try to make

17:41

it , uh, as seamless as possible. But

17:43

yeah, so these two cameras in here , um,

17:45

we have one which is the shot vision camera that

17:48

you see on the right. And that's where you get , uh,

17:50

if you, you're familiar with the M L m, you'll kind

17:52

of, you'll , it'll look familiar to you, is you see

17:54

that, you know, down the line video with the shot

17:56

tracer, just like you, you know, saw watching

17:58

the P G A championship yesterday, you can see where

18:01

your ball's going with the metrics. Uh, that's

18:03

a two K camera. And then we have Impact

18:05

Vision, which is really maybe

18:07

my favorite feature of the whole unit. And I think it's

18:10

been a lot of people's , uh, you know, favorite,

18:12

one of their favorite features as well is because you can actually

18:15

see what's going on with the ball and club. So,

18:17

you know, we have this 240 frames per

18:19

second, and you can really see if you're hitting it on the heel,

18:22

on the toe, you know, if you're taking a big dipt

18:25

divot , um, you can see exactly what's

18:27

going on there. Um, so it's been a

18:29

really, been a really cool feature.

18:31

It was very exciting when the unit came out

18:33

because this techno , like , no one's done

18:35

this yet, right? Like the impact vision, like, no

18:37

, that's all new, that's all new technology. No

18:39

one's really shown it. Um, or even

18:41

had that ability. You can see Justin right here,

18:44

Eno , um, just break

18:45

Down the swamp . What do you think?

18:48

I think you're probably gonna win the US amateur. Um

18:50

,

18:50

Let's go.

18:52

There's not much my videos that'll be like <laugh> , you

18:54

know , d ing to the right. I

18:56

feel like the technology between the original Rapsodo and

18:58

the Rapsodo MLM two Pro is like jumped

19:00

a lot, right? I mean, just like in terms of the

19:03

cameras, the dual cameras, the,

19:05

the design and then the, you

19:07

know, even the , the spin technology, which no

19:09

one, let's talk about that for a second too. Before <CROSSTALK>

19:12

stuff like this is a big deal, right? The

19:14

spin. So can you talk to the audience about

19:16

like kind of how this works, what the R

19:18

P T ball is, that kind of thing?

19:20

Exactly. Yeah. So SPIN was one something

19:22

people had, you know, been asking about a ton is , I wanna

19:24

see my spin metrics, you know, I want to , you

19:26

know, see what my ball's doing. And inside it's

19:29

always a challenge for people because, you know,

19:31

you're , you're only hitting normally into a net about eight, 10

19:33

feet away. So that limited ball flight

19:35

, um, that's where, you know, our camera and radar

19:37

technology really helps. And with our

19:40

camera here to see these , uh, balls,

19:42

we can actually measure what's going on. So a

19:44

lot of people are like, you know, what are the dots about? Well,

19:47

that's, that's what the R P T T stands

19:49

for. So that's Rep Soto Precision Technology,

19:51

which has those really unique PA

19:53

patterns on there. Um, and we chose , uh,

19:55

Callaway for their precision and being able

19:57

to print these, because, you know, our

19:59

tolerance with those dots is about one

20:02

millimeter, I believe. So , um,

20:04

you know, really high tech printing , um,

20:07

onto those balls. It's a premium ball, it's

20:09

a cal , uh, Callaway Chrome soft X. Um,

20:12

and with that, we're able to tr uh , capture the

20:14

spin and spin axis. So when you kind of look in

20:16

that video, the impact vision video,

20:18

you know, you can see the ball rotate, and we're

20:20

looking at the cameras and tracking , uh, how that

20:23

ball's moving through space , uh, so that we

20:25

can capture, you know, how much your ball is spinning and

20:27

how much it's curving.

20:28

These numbers are like dead accurate. I just wanna tell you

20:30

guys, like, I've compared this to like a

20:32

GC Quad and a GC three, and

20:35

like then spin numbers are like

20:37

super, super, super, super close, like

20:39

super close, like off by like less than

20:41

50, right? Which is crazy if you think

20:43

about it, because those are like, you know, GC

20:46

three is what, six grand and the DC

20:48

DC quad's like 15 and this is 7

20:51

6 99, right? Like, I mean, yeah , it's the

20:53

, it's amazing how direct

20:55

the spin rate is on this thing. It's

20:58

nuts. Um , we,

20:59

We have incredible, incredible engineers

21:01

and we're, we're really excited about , uh, about

21:03

the accuracy. So

21:04

That's a big feature, right? That wasn't on the original rap

21:06

photo . This is like they, when they came out, they came with full

21:08

guns blazing, right? 'cause they came out the double camera,

21:11

they came with their own special balls. And I guess kind

21:13

of talk about the app too. Like

21:15

can you explain like kind of the features of the app

21:17

and then what it kind of provides and that kind of thing?

21:20

Yeah, so currently they're , um, our

21:23

three play modes. So , uh,

21:25

when you go to play, you can either practice,

21:28

you can take a combine or you can go to simulation.

21:30

So if you think of practice, that's kind

21:32

of your, you know, hey, I'm gonna hit balls. I kinda wanna

21:34

look at my numbers. I wanna see all my swing videos. So

21:37

within practice, you'll automatically get , uh,

21:39

a replay of your swing if you want. Um,

21:41

you can always turn the replay off or kind

21:43

of just see the metrics if you want that as well. Um

21:46

, again, this is for phone

21:48

or tablet , uh, iOS and

21:50

Android. Um , I really prefer

21:52

the , the tablet just because there's a little bit more real estate

21:54

on the screen, so you can kind of see a little bit more.

21:56

But I use the phone all the time as well. Um,

22:00

and so in practice we have those 13 metrics, which

22:02

is carry distance, total distance, side

22:05

carry, club speed, ball

22:07

speed , uh, smash factor

22:09

, launch direction, launch

22:11

angle, descent angle, which

22:13

is a new metric for us. Uh, apex,

22:16

we also shot type , so we label 'em. So,

22:18

you know, if it's a fade versus a slice,

22:20

you'll see that in there. Um , and then we'll

22:23

get spin rate and spin access if you use the R

22:25

p t ball . So most likely you're

22:27

gonna only use the R P T balls , uh, inside, but

22:29

you definitely can use it in our outdoor mode.

22:32

Um , I, I've used them on the course a couple times to kind

22:34

to get numbers when I'm out there playing. Really?

22:36

Yeah. You use the R P T ball in the course, that's

22:39

Cool. Oh yeah. I mean, it's definitely not, you know , how,

22:41

how they were designed, but it's definitely something you can

22:43

do. Um,

22:43

Yeah, using outta the course, you're not using it out the range. Yeah

22:46

. Yeah .

22:47

It's , it's a , yeah, you're , you're not gonna, I don't envision you

22:49

, uh, buying some and sending 'em out there, but do

22:52

you

22:52

Hear crazy? Do you ever something so crazy? I

22:55

played this golf tournament like two weeks ago with True Links

22:57

Square , and I was out in the desert looking for my ball and

22:59

like, I literally found an R C T ball out

23:01

in the desert. Like someone was playing an R C T ball

23:04

at a golf course. Like I, I was

23:06

Like , it's cold . They probably didn't <laugh> , they probably not, didn't know

23:08

what it was or something.

23:09

I was, so I was like, oh my God. I put, I'm like, I

23:11

just want an R C T ball. Like, and you

23:13

guys don't know, it's like Titleless Ball, which is like

23:16

the com competitor ball to this for like,

23:18

other units. Really? Yeah . It's like, who would do that?

23:20

That that's like $75 a box. Like, it's

23:22

so expensive for those balls. I'm like, that's

23:24

that's a ballsy dude right there, man.

23:26

Yeah. It's confidence. It's confidence, but

23:28

it's

23:29

Not me. I wouldn't do that. I'm like , I'm

23:31

like a whole , I'm like trying to like, make sure I don't like

23:33

lose him . I'm like, okay, I'll , I'll

23:35

let you keep this ball, you know, if I go to someplace

23:38

and drop a ball off . But when did

23:40

the MLM two Pro launch?

23:42

So the P G A show, which was what,

23:44

February 1st, or end of end

23:46

of January, we kind of announced it. Yeah . Uh,

23:49

February 1st is when I went on pre-orders, and

23:51

then we actually had to shut down, or not shut

23:53

down, but we had to close pre-orders because the response

23:56

was, you know, so overwhelming, positive

23:58

, um, that , so how

23:59

Fast did you, so you opened up pre-orders. How fast did

24:01

you guys like sell out?

24:03

I think it was a week week . We kind of were getting, we

24:05

were getting so many units, we're like, all right , we're gonna, we're

24:07

gonna have to close this down , uh, for a little bit

24:10

that's pre-ordered. That's crazy. It was , it , you know,

24:12

it was , it's been an awesome response. Um, and

24:15

then , uh, you know, we've been really working

24:17

hard to have the, you know, enough inventory.

24:20

So , um, we've had one,

24:22

we had one drop , uh, about a month

24:24

ago since, and that's sold out in under a

24:27

minute , um, which was also like

24:29

mind blowing to us. Um, and

24:32

, uh, yeah, we should have, in the next, next

24:34

couple, next couple weeks, we'll have , uh, more

24:36

inventory available. And we have a lot of , a

24:38

lot of units coming. So , um, you

24:41

know, this summer, if you're, if you're looking to get one,

24:43

you're definitely gonna be , be able to,

24:45

That's what I'm been telling people. Like if you're, if you find

24:47

out about these launch monitors or simulators fricking

24:49

pre-order it, because like it's , you're not gonna just

24:52

get it, it's not gonna happen. Like, I

24:54

mean, I just at this

24:55

Price point too. Yeah, it's like, it's, it's a

24:57

ton of technology in there. And for 6

24:59

99, I think a lot of people, you know, over

25:01

the last couple years, I think you're gonna really see like the

25:04

home, you know, simulator market where

25:06

people building these, you know, setups at

25:08

their house and being able to play whenever they want is

25:10

gonna really grow. And so for something that's

25:12

this affordable and has this much technology and this

25:14

most accuracy, people are just, they're jumping on

25:16

it.

25:17

Yeah, I mean, I, I remember, 'cause I

25:19

got mine, when did I get mine? Like a probably

25:21

a week after a launch, like a real launch

25:24

and like, 'cause Justin sent me mine and

25:26

I was like, hell yeah dude, because nobody had it. There's

25:28

only about probably three other people on YouTube that had

25:30

it. Oh , my friend, my friend David in

25:32

Australia had it before I did. I was like , did

25:35

David get it? He's in freaking Australia. I

25:38

remember I was like, I was like tin around with him one day about it.

25:40

But , um, it was crazy. But

25:43

I think like, there's been a ton of response

25:45

to it, especially because that price point, I

25:47

mean, your direct competitor is the Garmin R 10 , right?

25:50

So I mean, and it's,

25:52

it's kind of cool because now before no

25:55

one had come out with a price, a similar price

25:57

unit. Everything came under that price point. But

25:59

now it's like, all right , similar price, more technology.

26:02

And the question really is, is what Garment gonna do about

26:04

it? Because I feel like, you know, you

26:06

can make a cheaper unit, not saying garment, but

26:08

anybody can make a cheaper unit under 500 bucks, let's

26:10

call it. But then the next, like

26:13

the tier system when it comes to launch monitors

26:15

and Rain , you know, is like under

26:18

500. There's only, what, two

26:20

between 500 and a thousand I

26:22

would say you guys in Garmin. And then it's

26:24

like the next tier up is, is over is

26:26

2000 plus, right? So it's like there's no, it's,

26:29

I think people, what I try to

26:31

do when I make my videos at least, 'cause I , you know, as

26:34

they show people like, look, you can compare a 600

26:36

unit to a $4,000 unit,

26:38

they're pretty much gonna give you the same numbers. So now

26:41

it's about features, right? And what are these features? What

26:43

do you want as a player? What can you afford

26:45

and what do you want? And I think one

26:48

thing, which is a big deal for the Rapsodo

26:51

is, which they did have in the original unit,

26:53

is now they're gonna have third party integration, right

26:55

? Yeah . And so let's talk about that a little bit

26:57

too, because let's a big deal 'cause everybody

27:00

kind of wants, so what, what's going on

27:02

with that?

27:03

Yeah, so awesome golf , uh, integration's

27:05

currently live. So that , that's a great platform. It looks great.

27:07

Yeah. If anyone's, by the way , it's a great platform.

27:09

If anyone's not familiar with it, definitely check it out. And

27:11

then , uh, E six we're , we're , we're working on

27:13

that. And that's gonna be here, be here soon.

27:16

Um, so I'm , I, I

27:19

can't, can't give you a specific date at this time, but it's

27:21

soon . You don't coming soon . It's coming soon. When

27:23

That happens, that's gonna be the , I think that's gonna be

27:25

the floodgate right there, because then it's like you can

27:27

go play all the E six courses.

27:30

No ,

27:30

Yeah,

27:31

E six's expensive, don't get me wrong. Um,

27:33

you get the free version

27:35

It'll come with Yeah , for iOS users, it'll

27:37

come with a few courses for free. Uh , if you kind

27:39

wanna test that out

27:40

And then yeah , like three or four or something and need range

27:42

too . But I mean, I

27:45

think like that's the thing too, because you guys came out with

27:47

a sim, like the old rap , so

27:49

didn't have the sim feature in it either, right?

27:51

It just had like the, all the other, you

27:53

know, practice features. But like now you

27:55

have simulator, so like the new rep Soto

27:58

has a sim built in sim , which is really cool.

28:01

Um, because I mean, really you're

28:03

thinking at that price point. You're getting straight outta the box.

28:05

You're gonna have a sim you could use, you have

28:07

a testing, you can practice your shots, you

28:10

have combines. I guess let's talk about combines a little bit. So I,

28:12

I was , I did that with my instructor the other couple

28:14

weeks ago. That was a lot of fun. It was actually

28:16

a lot of fun. Like we were doing it and I'm like, yeah , this is actually , I

28:18

was hitting , he was hitting all the shots. 'cause I'm like, let me, I

28:20

don't know , I'm wanting to make sure these are all good shots. So

28:22

I was like, all right , let's do it. But, you

28:25

know, it was a fun thing to do. And I think combines,

28:27

I know you guys had that with the original Rap Soto , but

28:30

I feel like combines makes

28:32

practice fun, if that makes sense. Not just

28:34

playing a game or something. But

28:36

It does, I mean it's, it's, it's the feature

28:38

that I probably use the most of the play settings.

28:41

Um, and my kids who are very little, you

28:43

know, my six year old loves to do it too. 'cause it's

28:45

a game, you know, when you're out on the , on

28:47

the range, like everyone loves hitting balls and

28:49

you know, chasing the numbers and trying what

28:51

they see. And then you kind of sometimes get to a point of like,

28:53

okay, how am I gonna get better? You know, or

28:56

I'm hitting it good today, like I wanna , you know, put it to the test.

28:58

So combines as I kind of, as I said

29:00

earlier, is something we developed with , uh, Sasha

29:02

McKenzie , um, and he used

29:04

over a thousand p g a tour shots, you know, 20

29:06

plus years of data he collected with people , uh,

29:09

to put together this test , um,

29:12

in collaboration with us. So it's a 24 shot

29:14

test. It takes about 15 minutes

29:17

to do. There are two approach targets

29:19

and then a driving target so we can

29:21

recommend distances for you. So over time, you

29:23

know, the more shots that we gather, we'll find holes

29:25

, um, you know, in your, in your

29:27

yards that we don't see you hit. So, you

29:29

know, Paul, if you're hitting a bunch of eight irons, 160

29:32

yards and then a bunch of seven irons, one 70, we'll

29:34

say, okay, he , Paul's not hitting a lot of 1

29:37

65 year old shots, so we're gonna suggest you practice 1

29:39

65. So Oh,

29:40

I know that , that's cool.

29:41

Yeah, so we'll, we'll we will recommend distances

29:43

or if, you know, if you're like, Hey, I actually just wanna

29:45

hit 120, you know, 180

29:48

as my two targets, you can enter those as well. So

29:50

, uh, it has a nice cadence to it too.

29:53

So you'll hit , um, two

29:55

shots in a row to your first target, two shots

29:57

in a row to your second target, and then you'll hit two driver

29:59

targets and you'll go through that rotation

30:02

four times. So you'll hit 24 shots each

30:04

, uh, eight shots each target. Um,

30:07

and at the end of that you'll get a score out

30:09

of a hundred , um, as well as a handicap

30:11

associated with that. So , um,

30:13

it's a really good way to kind of see where your game

30:15

stacks and also kind of like provide some

30:17

context to how you're hitting it. So in

30:19

the report after, you'll see, okay,

30:22

Paul, your, you know, average proximity from

30:24

120 yards was, you know, 20 feet.

30:27

Um, this is what your handicap level averages

30:29

from that distance. And then this is what a pro average is

30:31

. So you can kind of see how you stack up against your peers and

30:33

how you stack up against your pros. And

30:35

the example of I always use is

30:38

, uh, shout out to Brian Dietrich , um,

30:40

on our Rep Soto team. But every

30:42

time he takes a combine, he hits , uh,

30:44

his driver really, really well. So he is like

30:46

a , you know, a one or two handicap with his driver,

30:49

and then his irons are always about like

30:51

a 25 or 30 handicap. So he has

30:53

this huge disparity between his

30:56

game, but it's really easy to see

30:58

like, okay, if I wanna get better, I need to practice these

31:01

distances. You know, clearly if I go hit a hundred

31:03

more drivers, I'm not gonna, you know, shoot

31:05

lower scores at this point. 'cause that's a strength of his

31:07

. So it's a really good way to,

31:09

you know, understand strengths and weaknesses, but again,

31:11

like gamify your practice, make it

31:13

more fun. 'cause you're gonna get a score at the end of that

31:16

and then you're gonna want to go beat that score again.

31:18

Uh, at least I do. So , um, it's,

31:21

it's a really fun way to practice

31:22

When we did it, it's very high paced

31:24

, I guess you could say, where you're

31:27

not just sitting there hitting the same shot over and over again. Right,

31:29

right . And you're like, it's like changing. And

31:31

I think the one thing Garrett said to my instructor, he

31:33

was like, what's cool about it is that it

31:35

, it almost simulates you're actually playing a game.

31:38

Yeah . Like a game of golf, right? Like driver

31:41

approach wedge. Right. Or that's what we

31:43

were doing at least. Yeah. And it was like, you know , you do that three or

31:45

four times, like you just played round of golf really.

31:48

I mean we didn't put and all that other stuff. But still, it like

31:50

gives you that feeling where it's like, and then I

31:52

think the numbers that we were using off of were

31:55

not like your common number, right. For

31:57

your approach. Yeah , it was , it was like a hundred yards.

31:59

It was like, you know, whatever it was one 12

32:01

or whatever. Yeah . Some random number. It's

32:04

like, okay, I gotta really think about this shot. What

32:06

club do I use? Right? How do I

32:08

swing the club? And

32:10

It's great for somebody that like, sorry to

32:12

cut you off, but like, you know , somebody's like , I'm hitting a grade

32:14

on the range and I'm not taking it to the course.

32:16

And it's like, normally that kind of

32:18

person when I'm like talking to my friends is, well

32:21

like, what are you doing on the range? You know, are

32:23

you actually making your practice, you know, put

32:25

a little pressure on your practice? Are you picking specific

32:27

targets? Are you're just trying to hit shots that feel

32:29

good? 'cause when you get on the course, you gotta hit

32:31

it, you know, between the two bunk, the bunker

32:33

and the hazard. Or you gotta hit it on the green and,

32:36

and you know, this really as you

32:38

kind of show here, kind of puts , puts that pressure

32:40

on you while you're practicing. So

32:41

Yeah, so like, you know, it's like 50 yards and

32:44

then it's like he , you know, you kind of dial it in. It's like, oh,

32:46

what club do I use? Are you sandwich wedge ? Okay.

32:48

Was it full swing half ? Like, I don't know , it kind of made

32:50

it fun. I mean

32:52

, that's our red line. We did it ourselves, but like you can see we

32:55

kind of practice it. And what's kind of cool too is

32:57

look like even the red line, we were drawing the line,

33:00

you can see we are off center to the right. So

33:02

it's like, it does show you where you land.

33:05

And I think one of the tendencies that we kind of saw when

33:07

we did it just with Garrett that day was

33:09

like, some of the shots were going right. You know, just 'cause

33:11

he was just was happening. Yeah . So he did , you have to adjust

33:13

and you have to start, you know, and I think that's what

33:16

makes it really fun because you're

33:18

able to really like dial it in and

33:20

then also , um, you

33:22

get really excited when you hit the target. Yeah . Like

33:25

, oh yeah, fine . Like it's, I don't know , it's, I'm

33:28

being straight with you. Like, it was, it was a lot of fun.

33:30

And like, usually it's practicing's boring.

33:32

I mean, honestly, like you hit a bunch of shots, okay, what's

33:35

your average carry? Okay, great. But

33:37

like, is that gonna help you the next time you play?

33:39

Like not really. Um, so

33:42

I, I really think this is a cool feature that

33:44

you guys are, have incorporated into

33:46

the MLM two Pro. Yeah.

33:48

But , so it's, it's in the MLM one for anyone out there

33:50

, uh, it's an outdoor only

33:52

mode with the MLM one , uh, but the

33:54

MLM two, it's indoor and outdoor. So you

33:57

can do this one with MLM two Pro in your garage

33:59

or you can do it at the range.

34:00

I mean, I would assume like when coming out with

34:02

new units, like what

34:04

was the feedback from people who

34:06

got it? Like what was , what were they saying? Like was

34:09

there anything that needed to be like improved or

34:11

was there any issues or there have been update , I know there's been a

34:13

lot of updates lately, so I wanna kind of talk about that real fast.

34:16

Yeah, so I mean, first I think, you

34:18

know, people were just really excited. It was cool to

34:20

see everyone's, you know, set up . I'm jealous of a lot of

34:22

these people's, like backyard setups or indoor

34:24

setups. Uh, I kind of just throw a

34:26

net up in my backyard, but a lot of these people set

34:29

ups . I'm like , uh, might have to, to screenshot

34:31

these and show my wife step it up. Yeah, I

34:33

need to step it up. I don't know if I can get that passed , but we

34:35

can, we can try at least maybe.

34:37

Um , I tried it didn't work <laugh>,

34:40

But uh , the response has been been really

34:42

cool. Um, and we're always at Rep

34:44

, so working since to make improvements in terms of,

34:46

you know, if there's a bug that somebody sees, fixing

34:49

that as quickly as we can, but also

34:51

having like new, new features. So , um,

34:53

we came out with a new app last

34:55

week and a new firmware, so , um,

34:57

That's crazy. Like it's only been out for two months. Like

34:59

there are , like, that's the one thing I wanna say is

35:01

that like, rap so's on the ball. I

35:03

know people might have some connectivity issues. A lot of people were

35:06

saying that I didn't really have that too often.

35:09

Um, but like Rap Soto's been on it.

35:11

Like they're always updating, like they're on

35:13

it, they're like acknowledging it. They're like, oh yeah, we're

35:15

fixing that. Here's next update. You're update it

35:17

. Like they , they didn't just make it and we're

35:19

like, oh yeah, well it's great. See ya . You know? Yeah

35:21

. No , I think it's very commendable. Like you

35:23

guys are like taking accountability

35:26

and like fixing it and like making it better

35:28

and they like this thing's legit. This thing's , you

35:30

guys are doing a really good job.

35:32

I appreciate it , Paul . Yeah, so some

35:34

of the things that people are curious, last week's

35:36

release really improved , uh, connectivity and we've

35:38

seen , uh, a huge improvement for, for

35:41

the users that, you know, were having a couple problems

35:43

with their , uh, connectivity , uh, that seems

35:45

resolved. Uh, all of 'em . And then

35:47

, uh, a lot of other like little features

35:49

that people were like, you know, we're always listening

35:51

to people and people write in, are you, we see 'em

35:54

on social like, hey, can you, you

35:56

know, one of 'em was for the iPhone or Android

35:58

phone. Uh, our Rapsodo range was

36:00

actually in portrait mode and you could only see three metrics.

36:02

And people were like, you know, we want this in

36:05

landscape so that we can see a little bit more metrics on phone

36:07

. Oh yeah , I remember that . And if we wanted to use our phone to

36:09

connect to a projector. So , uh, there's things like

36:11

that , um, that, you know, are,

36:14

are small things, but they make a big difference to a lot

36:16

of people. So , uh, we incorporated

36:18

landscape for Rep Soto Range. Um,

36:21

and so now you can see, you know, three metrics on there

36:23

. I do

36:23

Remember that . 13 . Yeah, I do

36:25

Remember that. So there's a lot of really cool stuff in there. And

36:27

as I said, we're always listening , uh, to,

36:30

to our, you know, the users and what they're, what

36:32

they're wanting to see. So

36:34

Do you guys deal with iPad too? Was it

36:36

the same thing or just un

36:37

Uh , so iPad. iPad always

36:39

had rep soda range in landscape. Um,

36:42

simulation currently is in simulations

36:45

in portrait currently. That's

36:46

What it was. That's the next thing . One's coming .

36:48

Yeah. That that'll be in landscape. We're definitely working

36:50

on that. Uh, if you're an Android user,

36:52

there is a workaround. If you put it in uh , d

36:54

e X mode , uh, it can go, it

36:56

can go to landscape . You know ,

36:57

We use the Android. Come on

36:59

<laugh> , Android. I'm just kidding . There's there's a lot

37:01

of Android people out there,

37:02

Paul. I know there's a ton of Android people out there.

37:04

I'm just teasing .

37:05

Uh, no , I'm just messing too. Um, but yeah,

37:07

so there they'll they'll be like , uh, you

37:09

know, a lot of improvements. I

37:12

don't wanna say improvements, but a lot of new things along the way,

37:14

so Well

37:14

No , you're fine tuning it. Like, people expect, like something

37:17

comes straight outta the gates and they have like no bugs. Like everything

37:19

has bugs. Like, you know, they give the best they possibly

37:21

can, but until a million people start using it, you

37:23

don't know. Right. Like how to make it better, how to

37:25

refine it, how to, you know, I

37:28

think like, you know, you guys have been on the ball

37:30

though and like making those changes quickly.

37:32

I mean, like I said, it's only been out for what,

37:35

six weeks? Seven weeks? I think it was the beginning

37:37

of April, right?

37:37

So yeah , we up from the end of March. Yeah. So they've been about almost

37:40

two months now, but yeah, six or seven

37:42

Weeks . Yeah. So I mean, that's crazy. They like, they're already, I mean,

37:44

no, no , not Disen garments. I like

37:46

garment a lot, but like, there's still issues with

37:48

the Garmin app that has not been fixed in a year.

37:50

Right. So it's like, it's like rap

37:53

. So has taking the time to really make this app really

37:55

good. Um, and then also, you

37:57

know, adding the new features like was, I don't

37:59

think did awesome golf work out of the gate. I don't

38:02

remember if it did or not. I don't think it did . Awesome.

38:04

Golf . Yeah . Awesome. Golf was ready at launch. Um,

38:06

I can remember E six , uh, is coming and

38:09

coming . We have a , we have a lot of new , uh, new

38:11

cool things in the background that , uh,

38:14

that'll be released this year.

38:16

Exciting. That's awesome.

38:17

We got , we got a

38:18

Lot, I think for that price point. I mean, if anybody's out there

38:20

like trying to figure out what unit to buy,

38:22

right? Like, let's see less than a thousand bucks

38:24

to spend on your home unit. That includes

38:27

buying a net. Like Theso is a perfect, perfect

38:29

price, right? Because you have the

38:31

sim feature rather gate you

38:33

have. So the

38:35

other thing about the subscription, because you gotta have a subscription

38:38

model, however, the first year is already incorporated

38:41

in the price. So like if people can make that choice, if

38:43

they want to continue with the subscription or not , um,

38:46

which

38:47

Yeah, first year you get everything you get, you

38:49

get everything,

38:50

You get everything. Like there's no like, oh, you only

38:52

get this now you gotta upgrade, you know, to

38:55

some new feature. There's no, there's

38:57

no , uh, upsell, right? It's just like you

38:59

get it

38:59

And it comes with the , the three RRP T balls.

39:01

You get a sleeve of R p t balls included. So

39:04

you get your spin out the gate, you get, you know , 3000

39:06

Courses right to go ready to go.

39:07

You get everything out the gate. Um, so,

39:10

and one thing I , i kind of talked about earlier, but wanted

39:12

to chime back in on is, as you said, like people

39:14

that's setting up at , you know, their home setups

39:17

is, what I love about ours is you can really make

39:19

it whatever your budget is and whatever your spatial

39:22

requirements are. So the unit sits

39:24

six and a half feet behind you and you need, you know, eight

39:26

feet of ball flights. So you need, you know, about 14 and a

39:28

half feet of room there to kind of hit

39:31

into a net for the unit to stand. But besides

39:33

that, like, you know, you need a mat

39:35

in a net is is all you need with your, your

39:37

iPhone. You can just use that. Or like, if you

39:39

want like, you know, a nicer setup , you can get a

39:41

projector and you can get an impact screen and you

39:44

can really customize, customize , uh, as

39:46

much as you want. So , um, whatever

39:49

your budget, <crosstalk> ,

39:50

How long does the battery last on the Rapsodo ? I

39:52

can't remember.

39:53

It's about four hours. Um, I've

39:56

used it a little longer, but a full charger will last you

39:58

four hours of use. Um, if you're inside

40:00

you can, you know, plug it in while you play and, and

40:02

keep that battery. Uh , it's

40:04

Another big feature like , you know,

40:06

a flight, like with the Ebo plus, you

40:08

couldn't do that. Like you couldn't plug it in and play

40:10

it.

40:11

Oh really?

40:12

You know , that like , you could do the workaround,

40:14

you can plug it into a battery, a portable

40:16

battery unit and then plug the battery into the wall,

40:18

which like, I dunno , I think you guys

40:20

like pre-thought this ahead, like the

40:22

guy who doesn't wanna spend a ton of money, wants

40:25

good data, wants to have fun, wants

40:27

to have third party functionality,

40:29

wants to play as a sim. Like

40:32

it's all within the same price point. Like you don't

40:34

have to, I'm saying like, this is, I

40:36

feel like you guys hit the sweet spot with this because

40:39

I think like, I mean I've tested tons

40:41

of units now and I mean the numbers are,

40:43

they're accurate as hell. So I

40:45

mean,

40:46

That's first

40:47

The

40:47

First, you know , issue if

40:49

You want . Yeah ,

40:50

It's gotta be accurate. Uh, you know, it's , it's

40:52

gotta be accurate. We , we , you know, we care a ton about

40:54

our accuracy. So otherwise what's,

40:56

you know, the other, the other use cases don't

40:58

matter as much if you don't trust what you're hitting . So

41:01

we have the accuracy there. The spin, the

41:03

simulation we touched about, and then there's

41:05

one other video aspect I didn't touch about. So

41:07

there's actually three ways to view your video. So

41:10

we have the shot vision camera, which is integrated in

41:12

there. So the down the line with the shot tracer,

41:14

we have the impact vision. So you can see what's

41:16

happening, you know, the , the moment of truth and

41:18

impact. Um , but there's also the ability

41:20

to turn on the front facing camera of

41:23

your , uh, tablet or phone. So

41:25

you can actually put it, you know, wherever you want to get a

41:27

third camera view. So most use

41:29

cases are people putting that, you know, right in

41:31

front of 'em so they can see the face on swing. Um

41:34

, but that way you can see the face on and , and

41:36

down the line , um, post-session

41:38

and really, you know, critique what's going

41:40

on with your swing or , and see the good shots,

41:42

the bad shots, what's happening. So , uh,

41:45

it's a really, really cool feature that people are also

41:47

really excited about, is just be able to see multiple angles

41:49

of their swing with the data.

41:50

You guys need to put my video on , uh, your

41:53

website. I see , uh, I

41:55

see

41:55

<crosstalk> . Let's get , let's get it up there.

41:57

There's like 15 you could choose from . I'm

41:59

kidding. <laugh> . I did

42:01

a video, I did a video. It was like the five,

42:03

right? So after the p g A show, I did another video

42:05

called like, the Five Reasons Why You Should Buy

42:07

The Rapsodo . And I just like took the , there was like right

42:10

after the show, it's got recap, like everything

42:12

you needed that blew up too. So there's

42:14

been a lot of excitement about this and I think that it

42:16

has a lot to do with the technology. I

42:18

think it has to do with your reputation. I think it has

42:20

to do with the price point. Yeah . Like , because

42:22

I think like it's not a huge

42:24

swing for somebody, you know what I mean? Like, it's

42:27

like you have this, it's gonna last you a couple years,

42:30

not longer, and you don't

42:32

have to break the bank to get good numbers.

42:34

I don't know . One thing I do like about it too is you can take

42:36

it to the range and not worry about it. You know

42:38

what I'm saying? Like, you can put it behind you and somebody

42:41

knocks it over. You're not like all freaking out, like you're scared.

42:43

Like they're gonna break it. It's like, it's , it's ,

42:45

It's , it's, it's , it's a sturdy well will mid unit

42:47

. And for the people that don't

42:50

know about Rev Soto , because I , you know, there are some

42:52

people that, that haven't heard of us, and I think the MLM

42:54

two Pro is new . You know, it's, we're , we've

42:56

been around , uh, for a long time. Um,

42:59

and we've, you know, this isn't our, our first unit

43:02

into the market. Uh, we make a , uh, baseball

43:04

products as well. So all three huge

43:06

In baseball,

43:07

Huge in baseball, all 30. Uh , m l

43:09

B teams use our products, you know, I

43:11

think three or 400 m l b players have their

43:14

own , uh, units that they use in the off

43:16

season and practice with. And then, you know, thousands of universities

43:18

for baseball and softball. So , um, we

43:21

, we , uh, we've been around in the, in the data data

43:24

business for a while .

43:26

And you also make the data, you make

43:28

the system for the Sky Track

43:31

, right? What's the deal with that? You guys make the technology

43:33

somewhere in it, the cameras or something? What?

43:36

So the Sky Track and Sky Track plus, yeah.

43:38

The , the hardware of the unit , um, are , are

43:41

powered by Rep Soto . It's crazy. And

43:43

then , uh, yeah, sky Trek

43:45

, uh, has, has great software as

43:47

well with their , uh, uh, their own flight

43:49

model. That's a great , it's , it's been a great partnership

43:51

and that's been a popular product as well.

43:53

Well, I'm excited to have you on

43:55

the show. I mean , we've , we've been , I'm known

43:57

for at least couple years and we've been talking a lot and

44:00

you know, like I said, the rap episode two Pro is

44:02

a real deal. Like it really is, if you

44:04

guys are looking for like an affordable launch monitor

44:07

that you all can also use as a simulator and

44:09

then at least have like more functionality,

44:12

like all things we just talked about today, like that's

44:14

a really good, it's a great product to get. So

44:16

, um, where can people find the

44:19

Rap Soto ? Like where's the best place to get it at?

44:21

Best place to go is rep soto.com . That's

44:24

, uh, you can sign up right now to be notified, notified

44:26

of one more inventory will come up. Make sure

44:28

to follow our socials to also kind be

44:31

in the know of what's happening in new features. Um,

44:33

but they , uh, will be available, you

44:35

know, wherever you also buy other golf products at

44:37

your local retailers.

44:38

Yeah, because they're like sold out you guys, like, for real.

44:41

It's like you need to, like, I , and , and that

44:44

just shows you that people want the unit. So

44:46

it's like if you're gonna, if you're thinking

44:48

about getting it now, like here it is. May right,

44:51

end of May. Like if you're thinking about getting a unit

44:53

this golf season, like either I

44:55

would pre-order it now so that at least on the waiting list

44:57

to know when it comes out. Because even

44:59

with third party retailers, they get very limited

45:02

supply, right? Like I'd get it from

45:04

the manufacturer if like there's me.

45:06

But , um, well

45:08

thank you for being on the show today. Um,

45:11

you guys, Rapsodo is a real deal. I've

45:14

done probably 25

45:16

videos on Rapsodo products over the last couple years, so

45:19

, um, I would highly recommend for

45:21

you guys definitely check out the Rapsodo EMM two Pro and

45:23

I appreciate you being on the show today, Justin. Thanks

45:25

Paul, it was fun talking to you .

45:28

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