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Welcome to Behind the Influence, a production

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of I Heart Radio and TDC Media.

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It's making me emotional. I just want to take that moment

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to thank my fans for bringing

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me this far. Everything

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has to be perfect, everything has to be great.

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I have to be perfect and there is no

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perfect and I know that, and I don't know why I was putting

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that pressure on A pop is

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music and performance

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and visual aesthetics at its finest,

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layers on layers of artists, on artists.

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We have Tiffty on with us today. He

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needs no introduction, but I introduced her anyway.

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How are you doing, Hi, taught Tanna. Thank you for having

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me. You are just blowing up right

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now. How do you even fit us in your schedule? Oh no, That's

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what I'm trying to figure out right now. I'm investing

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all my time into creating the next body

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of work. So I am We're

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here, Yes, I am here for you whenever

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you want me to be. Thank you for having me. So the premise

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of our show is we're focusing on people who

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have influence and the real kind of influence,

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and you absolutely fall into that. Cat Great,

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You've broken the mold in so many ways.

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You've created your own lane. What do you think

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when you hear the term influencer? Is

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that something that you relate to? Yet? I

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think there is a lot, there's

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a lot of different meanings and definitions

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behind it. In two thousand nineteen, it

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is a word that I don't take lightly, and

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I'm honored to hear that word, and I hope

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anybody who hears that they are an influencer,

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You're doing great things. So keep it up and thank

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you for telling me that I am an influencer.

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Your fans are very much engaged with you. They're

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very much invested in you

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and your career and your music, and

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it seems like you have a really solid

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fan base. When did you start to

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notice this family of fans

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really starting to build. I

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am new back here in the US,

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but I have been with Girls Generations

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since two thousand seven and it's

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just been an amazing long

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term relationship that we still have and

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we're still learning new things about each other

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and opening up every single chance

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we get. And every time I'm creating a body

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of work, it's a chance for me

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to open up first to have my

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fans find healing and happiness.

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Yeah, it's been a good twelve years.

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So let's take it back to your journey at

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the beginning of your journey, which was interesting

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the way you did it, because a lot of people

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will start out in Korea and

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then they try to Americanize by coming

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here. You were kind of doing the reverse. Did

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you even know the language when you initially went

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to Korea to join a K pop band? I

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mean, when you're fifteen and you think you know something,

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you know nothing. And at the

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time I was fifteen years old, I

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was born and raised in California,

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and I thought that having my grandparents

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at home made me very good at

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Korean, And little did I know, I

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did not know anything. I

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moved to Korea at fifteen and immediately

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started studying the language, spelling, grammar,

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everything about it. But I think the most important

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thing about language is that you can always

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learn it. But once you fall in love with the culture,

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it just comes so naturally. And when you're

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there, it's hard not to fall in love with culture

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and and and the human beings and

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and just the history of it. And I'm

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still learning new things, and there are still things

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I don't know that I want to continue

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to learn about. How does

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one even get an invitation to

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move to Korea to join a kepop because

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K pop is really blown up here in the

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US in the last couple of years. But two

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thousand seven when you were heading over there,

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did you even know what you were getting yourself into.

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K pop has been around for

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a very long time, and it has evolved

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and grown into what it is

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today. It's absolutely beautiful

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to see and be a part of, and I take so much

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pride in it. Thinking back to the first

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moment when I did here and and come

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across K pop was back in

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I even remember because my mom was

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super in love with Madonna and

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another Korean diva named on Da. I

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mean, I think my mom's all this day. She kind

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of let me know that you know, music, there's no language,

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and that good music is good music, good

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performance and great artistry is what

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it is. I first came across

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K pop obviously when I was like eight or nine

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years old. But when I fell in love and

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was like locked in and was connecting

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and obsessing over it a little was

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in two thousand two, when I was

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like, yeah, eleven or twelve years old, and

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when I realized

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I can connect with this artist in

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the sense of she's my age, that's boa to be

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exact. Her name is Boa, and

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I thought to myself, Oh my gosh, I can

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see myself and identifying what she's

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doing, and I want to do that. Music

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came to me when I actually lost

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my mother at that age and I

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couldn't find peace or solace,

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her solitude and anything. And then music

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came and music was definitely what healed

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and made me happy again. And

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in that moment, I really wanted

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to be able to do that for people in the same

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shoes or for young I

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mean girls and boys and men and women who

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who need healing and happiness. And

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that's when I was like, Okay, this is why I want to

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do music. And I can see myself

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there and I want to go You're so

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young to have and that's very evolved

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of you at that age, but I guess you have to

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grow at bast when life hits you hard. Yeah, it's

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a beautiful experience and that I'm

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thankful. It was a birth, a

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rebirth of me wanting to

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to find beauty and pain,

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and I'm so thankful for that. And also

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it fasts forward into loving

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K pop and pop. Of course, living here in

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California. I went to an audition

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at fifteen. It was the scene competition in

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l A. I didn't get into the competition,

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but I was scouted at that audition,

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and I picked up my bags in three weeks and

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I knew that this was exactly what I

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wanted to do. I left without hesitation.

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Now, it did take a lot of convincing. I almost

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didn't really convince. I just was like, I need to go,

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and I'm very glad that I did. I

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mean, I wouldn't take a fifteen year old to

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who it went through to Korea like a one.

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So I went. I was very

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already in my head telling all my

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friends and family around me that I'm going to be an independent

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woman, as

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I think it's all the wonderful Destiny's child that

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was listening

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to tell

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me I can be an independent woman. But

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yeah, I left at fifteen, and UM

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started training and was chasing

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after my dreams while trying

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to navigate and girl up all at the same time. So now

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you you're in Korea, you're learning the language.

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Did you already know that you were going to be a part of this

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one group? Because when you're going to

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be a part of a group. They really I've seen

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so many documentaries on the whole K pop banned

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world. It's like rigorous training

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and I can't imagine it is. And

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um, I think in any category

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of performance or excellence,

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there is a pretty strict

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rules and boundaries and priorities you have to set

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for yourself. And it's almost like you're

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guided at a young age when you're there. And

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and in general, when you first go

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to Korea and you start training at

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a label, it's undecided

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and you are actually evaluated

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and checked up on and seeing

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your progress in all categories. It's

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almost like school. Yeah, I'm picturing

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like the DIDT he's making the band. I don't know I

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have, but it was so intense and every week

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I'm like, who's gonna get kicked off? Oh my god, that's

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going on. There's a lot of similarities in the sense

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of except its vocal lessons, dancing

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lessons, all types of dancing lessons,

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language lessons, acting lessons to

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camera test photography or movement

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or Yeah. It shaped me

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and made me into the performer I am

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today and which is why I'm ready

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and taking on. Yes,

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I'm so excited about that. Were there are days when

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you were training, because fifteen is very young. I

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just remember from high school examples like wanting

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to quit lacrosse because I just didn't want to run

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the mile in the morning. Were there days when you

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were just like, I don't want to do this,

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this is really hard for me. I just want to be a

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regular kid going to school. Or

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I feel like you were so driven you just had the eye on

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the prize. Yeah, that was me. I had my

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eyes on the prize and I

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don't know why. Throughout that training

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for me, it was let love outweigh

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all obstacles. There were so many things

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that made me feel like I wasn't enough.

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Clearly, got it

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worked out. Your group did

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really, really well. You found

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a lot of fame in Korea. Then you decided

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to do a very very brave thing.

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One you were going solo. So first

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you're doing a Beyonce move, but Beyonce did

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the move in a familiar place. You're

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now taking this talent

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that you've curated and all these things that

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this fan base that you have, and you're saying,

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I'm going to go to the US and I'm going to go solo.

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So you did two things that were kind of scary

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what were you thinking when you made that decision

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and how did you come to that place. Well,

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I was at a time where we were

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talking about contractor nowals

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and business, you know the business side

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of what we were doing, and I

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sat down. My bandmates were still together.

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My bandmates, I mean highcross generations. We're

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still very very close and

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supportive of one another, which is actually the

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very reason why I was able to kind

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of leap into the

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Yeah, they were very supportive. It wasn't I

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remember one year in two thousand, I

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think it was the leven we went on late night TV and

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I think it was the first time for for a k pop

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No, actually there were no. There were way too

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many amazing pioneers we were. We

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were on late night TV, and when we were in rehearsals,

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it was the David Letterman Show and there

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was the couch you know where you sit to interview. I would

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point at that and tell my bandmates, I'm gonna sit

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there one day, whether it's with you guys, and they're

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just like, no, You're going to sit there alone and tell your

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story. And they've just been so supportive

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since day one. And when it came time

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to talk about contract renals and things like

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that. It wasn't even about business at that point.

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It was as human beings, as sisters. We

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have empowered each other and we have supported

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each other together apart, and

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we will always. We all were talking

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about what we wanted from here, and it's

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we all wanted to stay together, but we wanted

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to take this time to grow. And for me, that

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was for me to come back to

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California. And are they still together doing

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your games? Everyone's still in

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Korea. They're actually all visiting, they're

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taking Yeah, it's it's amazing. Um,

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it's only been a year and a half for me. So we're

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just crazy because you've already had so much

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solo success, which we're going to talk

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about just getting started. No, but I mean you've

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had so much success, and it's

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not easy to transition from Korea

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to the US. I mean there are dozens

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of K pop groups. I mean more

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than that, I guess I have to thank

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the woman who have empowered me. Thank

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you girls Generation and and the fans

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and just everybody who's been a part

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of it. And to my new team here

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transparent to be exact, transparent,

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thank you so much for believing

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in my vision. And and just taking

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a chance in a new territory.

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It's not comfortable to stay in

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the dark and India unknown for a long time,

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and sometimes we do feel like we're

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just like wandering. For me, I think

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the focus is I want

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to be and I want to make a

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difference, and I want to make some sort

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of change and and create my own

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lane and inspire others to

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do the same. I think you're doing that than you.

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So when you moved over here, was it hard?

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You got a new team? Was it? The team got

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it right away and you're ready to just hit the ground

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running. How was that

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transition for your horse? Not? Everybody's

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laughing in here to No,

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we're still And that's the thing.

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I think that there is no secret.

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We work on it every single day. Let

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me correct that I work on that every single

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day. Why do I do this? Who do I

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do this for? And stay

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focused prioritized. Once

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you start focusing that energy

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on not being afraid and being

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hurt and lost, and of

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course it's important to I am actually

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going through therapy and going through my past

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and things I want to fix and assess,

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But it's so important to go back

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to keeping your eyes on the price, especially

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when there's so many people who

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love and care and want the same vision.

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When we talked, it's always why

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are we doing this? Because we want to create

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change and inspire all

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those around us. Because there have been so many

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great artists who have inspired us. And that's

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what I'm gonna stick to. Who

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are some of the artists that you looked up to growing

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up and maybe that you look up to

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today a career that you would love to

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emulate, but obviously in your own tip. Yeah,

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when I was younger, obviously

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wanting to look into the same story

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of coming from a band to a

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successful solo singer songwriter that

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was justin to really and Beyonce for

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me, And then I realized, thank you Mom

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once again. George Michael from

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What Am and Annie Lennox from The Rhythmics

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love Stevie Nicks. I've been listening

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to Fleetwood mag all over again, and an

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Echoty from Finkel who's in K pop,

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and so many others um solo

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divas I think have inspired me. And

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it's that common thread of being

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able to find beauty and pain

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and continue and show that there is beauty

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at every age. Every artist I talked to

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has said to me that their best

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bodies of work have come from the worst

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times of their lives. There's no peace, yeah,

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but in it in some way. We're

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actually interviewing an artist the other day who was saying

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that, you know, she was working on the album and

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reliving a pain and she kind of just like went

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through it, went through it, and then she listened to the complete

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album. She was like, oh my god, I went through all

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of that. Would you say that creating

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and writing was therapeutic for

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you? Absolutely? At first

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it was hard because it's it's

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I'm still pretty new to songwriting

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and learning so blessed to be learning

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from some amazing

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producers and songwriters around me. But

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you really need to know what you're going to write

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about. Like, of course there can be the spontaneous

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sessions when you're that amazing and I'm

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not there yet. I learned to

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really assess your feelings

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first, be specific and sharpen

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your focus and go into that category.

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And once you know what you want to talk about,

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it almost feels like you're writing a book

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or script. So why it needs to be

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so so strong that it just

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creates that song instantly, like

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your why or that that story or the narrative

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is just gonna keep you going and

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going until it gets even better and better,

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because the songwriting just doesn't stop in one

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take. You're gonna listen to it over and you're going to

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add in a different drums, you're gonna add in a different

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chords and and change it here. Or

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I've very much spot everything had

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to be formulate, maybe because of what I

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was used to and that sometimes

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um my key pop background can make me

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very formulate or systematic and

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very strict, and it was going to because

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it's being a solo artist is so

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different than being in a group, and not just because

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you're on your own, but because you actually have for

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people who don't know the music industry, You've got publicists,

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you've got managers, you've got labels,

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everyone is weighing in, and

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in some ways sometimes it seems

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a little factory. Yeah, you

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know, like it can be, but not to put

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it down, but sometimes it's so formulaic

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that I think the authenticity part

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is skipped. So when you were transitioning

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into being a solo artist, was it

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hard to figure out like who am

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I as an artist? Because you've been

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so absolutely I think um

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I had to thank my team for it. I'm

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still working on it every day, and it's something. Even

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when you find a tone

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and a style that you wanted

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to sound like, it gets even more

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detailed as we go. It's like what type

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of writing like? What kind of

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instruments, what style? What error?

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What fashion like? It really is layers

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on layers, and the more you learn, the more you think

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you don't know and one of the and more. I think

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that's where I'm at right now. I feel like that would be so

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much pressure because before you have these people

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to fall back on, this is our group vibe.

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But then you're coming out to the US, this

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is, in some forms some people's first

16:11

impression of you. So did you have a lot of

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pressure to come out with a bang

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and be like, I'm Tiffany Young and this is

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what I am. I think last year I was I was

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a little impatient. I was like, everything

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has to be perfect, everything has to be great.

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I have to be perfect and there is no

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perfect and I know that, and I don't know why I was putting

16:29

that pressure on me. And after

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I did my first body

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of work, went on tour, really

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lived with the music. It's not even about

16:39

being perfect when you're on that stage

16:41

and connecting with your fans and also

16:43

having those moments where my fans are

16:46

opening up to me saying that this song touched

16:48

them in this way or something

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has moved them, because it's

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it's a whole new conversation that has

16:55

been started that I want to continue.

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So like, all that pressure is kind of

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off me because when you I

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guess it is love and passion. When you

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love something, it's you're not gonna You're going

17:07

to take care of it. And then also you're a human,

17:09

thank you. Different chapters yeah,

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And also you know as humans we have different

17:15

chapters of life. If you look at any really successful

17:17

artist, I feel like Beyonce ten

17:19

years ago, Beyonce today, totally different

17:22

artists. Madonna, she's still

17:24

relevant because she just continues

17:27

to evolve. So I think what I've

17:29

noticed is if you do force yourself

17:31

to be perfect and put yourself into a box,

17:33

isn't an artist somebody who's imperfect? Yeah,

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And I think the imperfections

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are what makes your

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peace different. Whether

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that's a song, whether that's a it's a photo,

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it's a video, any type of art

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that has created your imperfections.

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Things that are created at this sub conscious sometimes

17:52

are all actually all there in you,

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and that that's what makes it special, and that's

17:56

what makes it different. And being

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home and just giving myself

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that time to breathe is letting me feel

18:03

that and create that way. But I will say

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after being on tour, I want to

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create at my best and like the fullest.

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And I think I guess it's because I just

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loved being on stage and with

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my fans. I was ready to get back in the studio

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the moment we were done. As much as I'm

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talking about like I'm going to give myself some

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room, it's like, no, I'm gonna give you the best.

18:24

Yeah. Yeah, that's great. It's a good attitude

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to have. So now you have established

18:28

yourself as a solo artist, how would you describe

18:30

your sound, your vibe? I don't

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know. I still think since it's only my

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first release was June eighteen,

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so it's actually only been one

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year, which is insane to me because I feel

18:43

like you're already household as a solo No,

18:46

I've got thank you so much. I

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I am going to work till I

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am in every Also, yes, the

18:53

first body of work, I wanted to

18:55

make sure that I

18:57

wanted to bring the best of

18:59

the both worlds that I love, which is K pop

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and pop. Musically, I got to work

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with some incredible producers,

19:06

from baby Face to Fernando

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Garabai, who I'm still working with, Hello

19:10

Fernando. But production

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and performance, I very much

19:15

stayed with true to my K pop

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color. Did you because you were transitioning

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and moving to the U s, did you feel pressure to kind

19:22

of reinvent and stay away

19:25

from the K pop world or are you using it? I

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think I'm bringing both and I'm

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doing me and I trust myself

19:33

that I am K pop and pop and I

19:35

want to embrace that. That's why I think when

19:37

I say you created your own lane, you didn't

19:40

just choose one one or the other. You aren't like

19:42

rebelling and saying, Okay, I'm done with the K pop

19:44

world. I'm coming over here and you're gonna be the next

19:46

like whatever you are

19:49

the next Tiffany, And I think that's really awesome

19:51

because you're able to stay true

19:53

to your roots and K pop inspired you. That

19:55

was your initial inspiration.

19:57

But the theme, definitely, the

20:00

the theme that I think I keep coming back to

20:02

is fantasy and fairy

20:04

Tale through pop. Yes, um and

20:06

fantasy. Fairy tale is not just your

20:09

Cinderella and and the Little

20:11

Mermaid. You know, I've also loved gothic

20:13

novels growing up, and there's a lot of other

20:16

beautiful, more noir fantasies

20:18

that that playing to the music that I'm I'm

20:21

kind of channeling that when you listen to

20:23

it, I hope that you are transported into

20:26

this beautiful setting

20:28

that you can connect with, not only because

20:30

of what it looks like, but how it makes you feel.

20:33

What has been your favorite single on

20:35

your own so far? And it doesn't, I mean,

20:37

it's going to change. You're gonna have another

20:39

favorite. I know it keeps changing, and I

20:41

guess, but what's your favorite right now? I am,

20:44

I am new as a songwriter, and I'm guessing

20:46

it does change very often. Right now, it would

20:48

have to be the new version

20:50

of Runaway that I created. It's a

20:52

Korean version of Runaway, the remix

20:55

which the original version had baby Face. It

20:57

was a duet with baby Face, and this version

20:59

is my favorite, and it's so special

21:01

to me because I got to collaborate with Chloe Flower,

21:04

who is just an incredible Asian American

21:06

artist. And somebody everybody

21:09

should know, and that the

21:11

Korean lyrics were written by my bandmates

21:14

Young and that it's just I love

21:16

that I got this chance again

21:18

to to bring women together

21:21

and that they are once again empowering me. And

21:23

this is my moment to thank them and tell

21:25

the world Asian women like,

21:27

I love that you brought one of your bands.

21:30

She's a She's an incredible lyricist, and I don't

21:32

think I had to tell her that. I

21:34

was like, I don't think anybody tells you enough. You

21:36

should write more. And she's like, wow,

21:39

thank you. Well, that's so nice that you were able

21:41

to come to the US and then also bring them in on the

21:43

action. I think that's really lovely. Yes, Runaway,

21:46

the Korean version with Kloiflower and

21:48

Sean would be my favorite song at the moment.

21:50

And also, I believe even if you're

21:52

if you don't understand, Korean music

21:54

is a universal language in my opinion, so

21:57

I feel like your American fans

21:59

could also enjoy it. Right, Oh yeah, music,

22:02

music, music. So

22:05

you were talking about some collaborations you collabbed

22:07

with baby Face on that. Is there a collaboration

22:10

you have you like Fantasy, So let's pretend

22:13

what's the genie's name? Is it just Genie

22:15

in Aladdin? Okay, it is just Genie.

22:17

The Genie comes up to you and he gets

22:19

he says, here's your magic lamp rob

22:22

it. You get to collab with one person

22:24

right now, anybody they're going to just show up

22:26

in the studio. Who do you collab

22:29

with? The Genie is just impatiently tapping

22:31

the fingers and telling you, because I

22:33

mean, now there's two people in my head.

22:35

The first one Genie gave three wishes, you

22:37

get three collaps. Okay, nice, Today you're

22:40

the bust. I mean, the first person that popped

22:42

into my head. I mean, justin

22:45

Timberlake, so good. Love been

22:47

a fan, no secret. Everybody knows that would

22:49

be a fun stemmer jam. I feel because

22:51

you said, Jennie. I am

22:54

a huge die heart Alan

22:56

Menkin fan who has

22:58

created the scores for Aladdin

23:00

and Little Mermaid, Beauty and The Beast

23:02

Tangled name I love, I love. I'm

23:07

a huge fan of composers and and and

23:09

yeah okay, okay, justin to really, Alan

23:12

men can get one more shock

23:14

us say something crazy

23:18

because there's so many amazing female

23:21

artists. I loved

23:24

Lady Marmalade when it happened. I would

23:26

love like I cheated again. I would

23:28

love a Lady Marmalade moment where we can free.

23:31

I know but you understand that,

23:35

but I would what's your five? I've

23:39

been I've been loving rosal

23:42

Rosaliah, Lizzo because

23:45

I play the flute to Lizzo. You are amazing.

23:47

I love Maggie Rogers there's

23:50

You're such an eclectic taste of my music.

23:52

I love that. Thank you. I hope I don't sound

23:54

insane. Somebody who knows

23:57

music, thank you. Refreshing and

23:59

I I'm also a big like Broadway

24:01

fan too, recently loved Star

24:04

up Ellis's album as well. I don't know. I just

24:06

wish I could just bring great women

24:08

together. Maybe you'll be the first to have

24:11

like a collab of totally right

24:13

now. Amen, Yeah, I do it A but

24:15

or anybody listening to this please

24:18

please please, Hey, I am real about

24:20

putting things out into the universe. If you say it, it's

24:22

going to happen. Especially at my heart. It's like the

24:24

air here is just magic. So

24:27

I feel like we just we just did something here. I

24:29

know I'll come to tour with you guys, let's

24:31

do it. Me and my baby excited.

24:35

You look beautiful by the way I feel large

24:38

we what can we expect from you in

24:40

the next year, because I don't want to overwhelm

24:42

by saying five years, because I feel like there's going

24:44

to be a lot and the next year. What's

24:46

Tiffany out to It is very I realize

24:49

it is very important to have long term goals

24:51

and short term goals. And for me,

24:54

I have just announced my Asia

24:56

tour, which is starting in Soul,

24:58

Korea. It's exciting to be back

25:01

in my music home UM in

25:03

August. So I've been working

25:05

on music and I would like to put

25:08

it out as as soon as I feel like

25:10

we're ready, ready to go and that we

25:13

can really really go even further

25:15

with where we've come. It's

25:17

making me emotion I just want to take that moment to thank

25:19

my fans for bringing me this

25:22

far. There is no me without my

25:24

fans, and UM, I'm in this amazing

25:27

place of of not even being

25:29

afraid anymore and I'm just gonna

25:31

do it. What would you say

25:34

differentiates your fan base

25:37

today then maybe a couple

25:39

of years ago when you were part of a K pop group.

25:41

I mean I'm welcoming all new fans, but

25:44

I think all my fans, I mean, I

25:46

think everybody is, but

25:49

um, it does. I think

25:51

this relationship develops over

25:53

time, especially with K pop specifically,

25:56

Like why do you think Americans are so enthralled

25:58

by this world? It literally took

26:01

us over my store. I'm very

26:03

proud to say that it's just K

26:05

pop is music and performance

26:08

and visual aesthetics at its finest.

26:10

It's layers on layers of artists on

26:13

artists who come together to bring

26:15

this magical peace to life. It's

26:17

burned so many billion dollar

26:20

industries from it, whether that's an aesthetic

26:22

for photography, video, fashion,

26:25

makeup, hair, it's just it's

26:27

become its own world. It's I guess

26:29

unity. The secret was unity and

26:32

togetherness and people coming and artists

26:34

coming together and including the fans.

26:37

Yeah, it is the unity. And also I just think

26:39

there's so much attention to detail and

26:41

like doing things right. The performances

26:44

are to a t. You won't see one person,

26:48

you won't leave your hair out of. Yes, the

26:50

outfit point like what love

26:52

it's it's definitely love. Like I've

26:55

loved every single part of that, whether

26:57

all the things that I've named. I guess that's why it came

27:00

out so smoothly. Of like naming each part,

27:02

whether it was from photography to lighting,

27:04

to set design to staging,

27:07

the fun you just everything about

27:09

it. Once you go in, you'll

27:11

fall in love with everything. And I guess once

27:14

you're in you can't leave. Um.

27:16

What would be something that your fans

27:19

would be surprised to know about you? Is

27:21

there? I mean I was shocked by a couple of things

27:23

like your name dropping composers and talking

27:25

about what Broadway.

27:29

I love that. Okay, I'm pretty

27:31

sure my fans know that about me. I

27:33

am surprised to find

27:35

out that I am an introverted

27:39

extrovert when creating. People

27:41

are like, oh, why don't you share everything on social

27:43

media and things like that, And I'm trying to find

27:45

a way to share parts of me like

27:48

openly. I think it's me even talking about

27:50

this right now is is gonna

27:52

force me to even be more open on social

27:55

media. Sometimes I like to brainstorm

27:58

and and make something first and then

28:00

have people tell me, and I like

28:03

that's when I'm like, okay, I'm I'm

28:05

sure of what it is I wanted to say, and why

28:07

did this now let's go to the experts.

28:10

But I realized that I'm an inture of verted

28:12

extrovert, and sometimes my fans think that I'm

28:15

like super extroverted,

28:17

and I would I would love to share everything. And

28:19

I think when I was in Korea,

28:22

I was on I think Your eight

28:24

by the time I was on social media, so it was

28:26

easier to share. I think over time,

28:28

I will be able to share a lot more. And I

28:31

think that might be a surprise to my friends. And I'm like, oh,

28:34

that makes sense. Do you keep

28:36

the Instagram purely professional

28:38

or do you let them into life. A lot of

28:40

people say that they choose to kind

28:43

of keep personal life separate because they

28:45

don't want their friends to be exposed,

28:47

or if they're dating someone, I could see

28:49

that. I mean, I've had a balance of both, Like I've

28:51

had it when it was like I'm going to

28:53

show all my trips and what I'm doing on

28:55

the plane. Um, I've I've had those moments,

28:58

and then I've also it also is trend.

29:00

I've realized now that I've looked at my posts

29:03

from two thousand fifteen and the

29:05

posts in two thousand nineteen, it's very

29:07

different. So I don't think it's like a personal

29:09

preference. You if you're a modern

29:12

woman or man, you move with the times.

29:14

What is the time? What is the trend right now that

29:16

you're seeing on Instagram? I'm

29:19

seeing showing a personal

29:21

moment in your workspace. Yeah, I'm

29:25

a lot of honest like people are stepping

29:27

away I think from the face tunes and all

29:29

the like perfect pictures

29:31

because it's almost not the thing to

29:34

do anymore. People are kind of more natural. It

29:36

is there's you can relate and connect

29:38

to it. And relatability, I think that's

29:41

what it is on whether it is in a

29:43

work setting or in a personal setting. Actually,

29:46

maybe that was I've

29:48

found out through you right now in this moment, there

29:50

are conversations that I heart air baby,

29:52

Yes, I heard radio. I

29:55

guess the trend is relatability and

29:58

me wanting to become the modern women, and um,

30:00

I will I will get to

30:02

that. You're

30:04

obviously, you know, a huge inspiration

30:07

to people. What is the piece of advice you would

30:09

give somebody who's in your shoes,

30:11

another fifteen year old she's looking at you now,

30:14

and you're the pop diva, the k

30:17

pop diva, as you mentioned at the beginning of this

30:19

interview. What advice would

30:21

you have liked to hear from the K

30:24

pop diva that you were looking up to at the time

30:27

that could have helped you along the journal.

30:30

And so I'm

30:33

so honored to even like imagine

30:35

that because imagining my fifteen year old self

30:37

or some yeah, getting

30:40

advice from your idol is

30:43

that anything is really possible,

30:45

and that it doesn't matter where you

30:47

are. Your heritage and your culture

30:49

is what makes you find

30:52

the pride and happiness and that identity.

30:54

And when you're creating. I hope that

30:57

whoever you are listening to this you mind

31:01

the patience to let yourself grow

31:04

and that the most important part would

31:06

be where your heart is. It's

31:08

not about you remember why you fell

31:10

in love with music or why

31:12

you fell in love with connecting

31:15

with someone, and it really is about just

31:18

the universal human experience. So was

31:20

that too complex? Day? No? I can't

31:23

wait for you win a Grammy so you can like tell

31:25

the world everybody I

31:27

heard Radio Air. It's

31:30

the air. Yeah. It also just want to Grammy

31:32

in my brain. Yes, I'm going

31:34

to get there. You've

31:37

got a big thank you, Tiffany.

31:40

You are You've been such a pleasure to talk

31:42

to I could literally talk to you for another three

31:44

hours, like saying, I

31:46

know I shopping exactly. We

31:49

clearly have the same street taste. But

31:51

yeah, make sure you come back. I know you have a lot of

31:53

really exciting things going on in projects.

31:56

We're going to be following you in a non

31:58

stalker way, are you just kindly?

32:00

Oh? No, nowadays you can I say

32:02

it all the time. Oh, I'm like totally creeping

32:05

on your Instagram. Well, thank you,

32:07

but in a not creepy way. Yeah, exactly,

32:09

casual creep. But thank you so much for

32:12

stopping by. We're really excited about this

32:14

new journey that you're on and big, big things

32:16

are coming. Thank you so much for having

32:18

me, Thanks for listening. Thank you a heart radio.

32:21

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