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who loves my fellow

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lover, I don't know you. I'm Princess

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Wigs. And my name is Tessa

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Each week, we're going to skin the surface of what

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the lore of Netflix world's bigger than

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our own. Tonight. Tonight.

0:29

We are embracing our inner theater kid

0:32

nerd and talking all about musicals,

0:35

the magic of the theater. And

0:37

this episode a really special one because

0:39

we are not only singing out words

0:42

from now on, like like this. If

0:45

only we were going to sing this

0:47

entire episode. I

0:49

think that's a little much. little much, but I

0:51

am sound so we shouldn't do that, though.

0:54

Yeah. So don't worry, guys. We're not gonna do that,

0:56

but we will subject

0:58

you to all of our rambling's thoughts

1:00

opinions about the musical Warner

1:02

World, one of my personal favorite

1:04

worlds, and I can't wait for this

1:06

entire conversation and just

1:09

geek out about music I'm so excited

1:11

as girl who could not sing but love

1:13

watching singing and dancing. This is

1:15

what I made for.

1:22

Okay. So now we're gonna talk

1:24

about our own personal

1:27

lives in theater. Before

1:29

I start talking about, like, my

1:31

theater professional theater life, Princess,

1:33

I wanna know, like, how did you become

1:36

obsessed with musicals. How did you find,

1:38

like, theater? Because you you're not a theater

1:41

kid, you said. So how did that, like,

1:43

come into your life? it was really through my

1:45

dad. So my dad really

1:47

loves Audrey Hepburn. So

1:50

we were whenever I was a kid and

1:52

it would come on TV, We would

1:54

sit in front of the TV, like crack peanuts,

1:57

pistachios, and we just watch it together.

1:59

And, like, I would dance on his feet

2:01

during the dancing numbers, And

2:04

he just always instilled in me this, like,

2:06

lifelong love of, like, theater

2:09

and high art. And I remember the first

2:11

musical I saw as an adult was

2:14

rent. The it was like during the last

2:16

year, it was running. Mhmm. I saw it

2:18

with my mom, and she cried.

2:21

And that's the moment I always say

2:23

made me realize that I could come out to my mom.

2:25

Mhmm. Because I saw how much

2:27

she embraced rent. and it

2:29

made me feel comfortable telling

2:32

her I was by. So I lots

2:34

of theater. that

2:36

is so special. I I

2:39

love that so much because rent

2:41

was also like the

2:44

musical that made me obsessed with

2:46

musical theater is because I

2:48

I grew as a dance kid, but I

2:50

also love singing. So I I didn't

2:52

something didn't click at my head that you,

2:54

like, could do both together. And even

2:56

after I saw a musical because the first

2:58

musical I ever saw, was cats on

3:00

Broadway. God. I

3:03

loved it Princess. I don't wanna

3:05

hear the cat slam there. Cats

3:07

raised me. You know what? Miao.

3:09

Darling. Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow.

3:13

I became something awakened

3:15

inside of me and it It

3:17

was a full blown obsession.

3:20

It was one of those things where

3:22

this was, like, probably the biggest obsession

3:25

of my life after Harry Potter.

3:27

So I auditioned for my

3:29

high school musical, and it was

3:31

musical, the musical. And

3:33

I got to play Jojo, a

3:35

small little boy. I cut off all my

3:37

hair, and it was hilarious. I mean,

3:39

it was an ugly cut too. That's what I

3:41

had, like, Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Yeah.

3:44

I'm like, if you have, like, the bowl

3:46

cut that will head in the first season of this.

3:48

I don't know what is it about white people

3:50

that y'all give your children this haircut.

3:52

Like, every white person, I don't that's

3:55

regardless of gender has had a bowl cut. Yada

3:57

just stopped. And then,

3:59

like, I started the first audition

4:01

I ever did was for thirteen, the musical

4:03

on Broadway, and I

4:06

did not get that, but that's okay. It

4:08

was because the next one that I auditioned

4:10

for was Billy Elliott. And this

4:12

audition story is wild because they

4:14

were asking for, like,

4:17

children that were twelve like

4:19

around twelve years old, like twelve to

4:21

fourteen. Actually, I think it was eight to

4:23

fourteen. Yeah. At the time, I was

4:26

six fifteen or sixteen when

4:28

I first auditioned a baby.

4:30

And I was I mean, I

4:32

was a baby, but I was not, you know, eight

4:34

to to fourteen. Yeah. I

4:36

was a little old. And so I was

4:38

like, uh-oh, mom. Like, I don't think I

4:40

could do this. First of all, I don't have my equity

4:42

card. And second of all, like, I'm

4:44

too old. My mom's like, no, you're

4:47

My mom's like, are you kidding me?

4:49

No. She's like, you look young enough. You could do

4:51

this. Well, like, just do it. Just listen.

4:53

You can pull off the ranges

4:55

from late high school

4:57

to mom.

4:59

Okay? You're gifted.

5:02

I I am I'm lucky

5:05

in that I'm very small. I'm a

5:07

small human. And also just

5:09

it was It was one of those things where

5:11

I looked really young in a high school,

5:13

so it worked. Like, when I

5:15

told them I was twelve, everyone,

5:18

like, believed me. And it was actually, I

5:20

think I said I was fourteen. Whatever the hell they say

5:22

was, I was like, this is me. It ended up

5:24

being, like, a really big blessing into guys

5:26

and they ended up hiring swings

5:28

that were older as well so that I wasn't

5:30

the only older person there. So

5:32

I I got the call and

5:33

the and

5:34

That it was the most crazy

5:37

I because that call, like, literally changed

5:39

my entire life. It was one of those

5:41

moments that would be in a

5:43

musical or something that was,

5:45

like, in, like, beauty in the beast. Like,

5:47

when, you know, bell leaves or provincial

5:50

talent. Like, I left Pennsylvania to,

5:52

like, go and do this weird thing

5:55

that I had no idea, like,

5:57

my career. It was just I get

5:59

it. It

5:59

was such a dream come Like, this was my dream

6:02

and it came true. And so

6:04

it was

6:04

it was the craziest experience

6:06

of my entire life. Like, no matter

6:08

what happens, like, nothing will

6:11

ever, like, sort of top that moment

6:13

and top that, like, feeling of

6:15

our opening night. And And also,

6:18

not only was I in a musical, bitch,

6:20

this musical was one of the best goddamn

6:23

musicals ever. I am

6:25

I am not afraid to say it because this

6:27

musical one, ten fucking

6:29

Tony Awards -- Oh. -- this musical, the

6:31

only musical beat this musical as Hamilton

6:34

deserved because Hamilton's amazing. Yeah. But

6:36

still. But also, like, that's how

6:38

good you are. Like, you did that

6:40

shit. So Like, this is why you

6:42

always make fun of me for gassing you up,

6:44

but I'm not doing it blindly. Like,

6:46

did you hear my girl say that

6:48

she fucking scammed her way into

6:50

excellence? This is why I fuck

6:52

with you because she said, mom,

6:54

I am going to do this.

6:57

You you you

6:59

were the staged child. You know?

7:01

You didn't have a staged parent. I You

7:03

used nine hundred percent. And I

7:05

love hearing this. And I think that's so cool.

7:07

And like Yes. going back to

7:09

like just why we love musicals. It's

7:11

like musicals is an art form that

7:13

encourages you to push

7:15

yourself to making your dreams

7:17

come true. of knowing that, like,

7:19

even like, at least in this setting

7:21

that if I can just be the best,

7:23

then I have something to say. And

7:25

it's so valuable that you had such a

7:27

great support system that could

7:30

get you to New York all those time

7:32

and doing all those things and, like, you

7:34

know, having a parent who had that background.

7:36

Like, all those things are so important.

7:38

And I think, like, music Oh. And, like, we

7:40

are two people with two different backgrounds, but

7:42

we can both share that feeling of

7:44

how we felt the first time we saw rent

7:46

or how we felt when we saw, you know, and,

7:48

like, you know, I didn't see you in Billy Elliott, but

7:50

I'm sure if I did, I would have thought, wow. That

7:52

tiny girl sure looks

7:54

twelve to me. So

7:59

Oh my god. That's

8:01

And I think, like, what you say connects to the

8:03

musical that we both love that came on Netflix

8:05

for just take take boom.

8:06

This is Jonathan Larson's

8:09

story.

8:12

Before the Tony Awards, before

8:16

the Pulitzer Prize.

8:18

before We dedicate this opening

8:21

night and every performance to our friend,

8:23

Jonathan Lars. We

8:25

lost him.

8:26

because they take them is is really about

8:28

So I saw it I saw it as I was turning

8:31

thirty. That and inside by a bellburne.

8:32

I used to run from

8:35

miles. I used to ride my

8:37

bike. I used to wake up with a

8:39

smile and go to bed. nightwear

8:41

the dream. Now

8:45

I'm turning thirty. No.

8:49

God

8:50

damn it. I the

9:01

two,

9:01

like, the two thirty something.

9:03

So I was just dead. I was just sitting here

9:05

and like, wow. Andrew

9:08

Garfield. totally understands me

9:10

right now. You know? Netflix understands it

9:12

was, like, I I when are you talking about

9:14

how, like, you know, SODHIM wrote

9:16

row fucking west

9:19

side story when he was, like, twenty

9:21

something years old. I used to have some

9:23

complex, like, the biggest disappointment

9:25

I had in myself when I turned thirty

9:27

was like, nah, I can never be in, like,

9:29

a thirty under thirty list. Like,

9:31

now I'm officially out of

9:33

it. have to be a forty list and who cares what

9:35

you do when you're in your forties, you know?

9:37

Oh my god. It's like the impression

9:40

of having, like, everything in your life

9:42

figured out by the time that

9:44

you're, like, thirty or that you're

9:46

old. And it's like turning

9:48

thirty is

9:49

freaking death sentence is It's

9:52

it's

9:52

like, it's so It is a creative it

9:54

is a creative destiny. It's it's so weird to me

9:56

because even though we don't mess with her anymore, when you

9:58

think about you know who,

10:00

like, she sold Harry

10:02

Potter in her thirties. It's

10:04

not like -- Yeah. -- and now she's still causing

10:06

chaos. You know? So it's

10:08

like, your ass abilities are

10:10

endless. You know? Like, it doesn't have

10:12

to stop, but it but it feels

10:14

when you're young and when you see

10:16

so many things in the arts dominated

10:18

by, like, look how exceptional this

10:20

young person is. You

10:22

forget that, like, everything that we've

10:25

learned that makes us better at what we do.

10:27

Like, I'm so much better at

10:29

even this. You know, I was so glad

10:31

that I wasn't super famous

10:33

or popular on social media until

10:35

I was in my late twenties because I just

10:37

have grown. My emotions are I've

10:39

been expressing myself and and

10:41

knowing what I want and how to advocate for

10:43

myself. I wouldn't have advocated for

10:45

myself when I was in my early

10:47

twenties. I didn't know how to do that. And I think

10:49

it's so important that

10:51

that in

10:52

art that when we show artistic

10:54

struggles like we do in rent or take

10:56

take a boom or even inside,

10:58

that you're kind of showing how, like, the difference

11:01

between success and failure is,

11:03

like, so narrow. You know, it

11:05

really is about who's in your corner.

11:07

Yes. You know, socioeconomics of your

11:09

situation and if you can feel inspired.

11:11

Mhmm. And I think that's why

11:13

I love musicals and, like, I've

11:15

always hit how expensive they are especially

11:17

now because they used to just have a lot

11:19

more stuff because, like, I feel like

11:21

musicals are,

11:23

like, the best way of getting

11:25

people to understand how to express themselves.

11:27

You know what I mean? Like -- Yeah. -- it is is

11:29

so many when your when your words are not

11:31

enough, sometimes music is.

11:33

And I just feel like that's

11:35

why I love musicals because they bridge

11:37

that gap between, like,

11:39

the music and acting into

11:42

this pure expression. Oh, it's

11:44

been beautiful. It's so cathartic. And

11:46

it it like, I can listen to certain songs

11:48

over and over again And not

11:50

even I I not even see the show.

11:52

Like, I listened to wicked long before I

11:54

ever saw the musical. Oh, for

11:56

sure. Just grip something in

11:58

me. something had changed within you know,

12:00

and I just I just, like, the fire and

12:02

gravity filled in

12:04

every emotional gap in my heart.

12:06

I didn't know I had. without having any

12:08

context. because I just understood the emotion

12:10

of that song. Yeah. And that's why

12:12

we love a a power ballad. One

12:15

hundred percent. And, like,

12:17

TikTok boom is such a

12:19

masterpiece and it's so

12:22

I let's do a little like

12:24

background to Tekboon because it's an

12:26

adaptation of the autobiographical

12:28

musical based on Jonathan Larsen's life.

12:30

And it follows John

12:32

who's, like, an aspiring composer living in

12:34

New York City who is desperately

12:37

trying to finish writing his musical,

12:39

like, in time for his big Showcase.

12:41

It's like make or break. And

12:43

then during this time, he's waiting tables.

12:46

He's living in a shitty apartment. He's

12:48

feeling the pressures of, like, his girlfriend, of

12:50

his best friend, all while chasing

12:52

his dream of becoming a successful

12:55

artist trying to, like, accomplish

12:57

everything before his birthday, before he turns

12:59

thirty, and then, like, the clock keeps

13:01

ticking, and then, that's tick tick.

13:03

Boom. But Jonathan Larsen,

13:05

who like this man,

13:07

this it's

13:09

it's crazy because I was so obsessed with Jonathan

13:11

Larsen. I had this like huge rent

13:14

book that had, like, every sort

13:16

of, like, all his notes and all his things.

13:18

Like, so III

13:20

love this man. So this man is one of

13:22

the most incredible playwrights

13:25

and composers of our generation. He

13:27

revolutionized musical theater.

13:29

He was the creator of rent, and

13:31

he tragically died

13:33

before rent's Broadway debut. It was

13:35

actually, like, the very day

13:37

of the first public preview

13:39

performance of rent. is when

13:41

he died at the age of thirty

13:43

five. I know. Right around the

13:45

corner. And he,

13:47

like, never got to see

13:50

the success of his show or the

13:52

impact that his work had. Like,

13:54

it's it's like fucking heartbreaking and

13:56

it makes Tic Tic BOOM even

13:58

more God damn emotionally taxing

13:59

because, like,

14:02

he

14:02

was literally running out of time, like, his

14:04

worst fear of dying young

14:07

like, came true. Yeah. So

14:09

it's, like, that's every

14:11

creative's, like, worst nightmare. And that

14:13

work is so selfish because

14:15

you need to focus so much

14:17

on on doing it all yourself or creating

14:19

or writing. But then also, you

14:21

know, you wanna have a

14:23

family. You wanna have relationships.

14:25

You wanna spend time, like, in

14:27

in TikTok boom, there's this big sort

14:29

of, like, decision. Like, should he follow

14:31

his dream of becoming a Broadway composer?

14:34

or should he marry his girlfriend and start

14:36

a family, or should he choose a

14:38

more comfortable life in the corporate world,

14:40

like, with his best friend. You know what I mean? It's

14:42

like, that's struggle of having to

14:44

choose one dream over another,

14:46

and especially as fucking women, like

14:48

all the goddamn time. It's like, oh, so do

14:50

you wanna a career? Or do you wanna

14:52

have a failed career? Yeah.

14:54

And it's like, god damn it. It's like,

14:56

is can we not it's

14:58

almost infuriating because you can't

15:00

explain why you

15:02

need to do this so, but badly,

15:04

like, why because it doesn't make

15:06

sense. There's no logical thing.

15:08

It's just like, in you.

15:10

You know? I don't know. There's something

15:12

to use the horror term. It's like

15:14

the fucking alien

15:16

is in you, and it needs to

15:18

come out. And it's gonna it's

15:20

gonna burst out of your chest one

15:22

way or another. And all you can do is

15:24

pray. And it's like, for me,

15:26

I totally know what you've what you're talking about

15:28

because I feel like, especially when

15:30

you're socialized female, Like,

15:32

there is so much pressure on top

15:34

of just children. There's also

15:36

the fact that, like, if we are close to

15:38

our families, this take this

15:40

this this maternalism that we get settled

15:42

with of taking care of people. You know, it's

15:44

like -- Right. -- so much of what

15:46

I I do is wrapped up in, like, well, I wanna make sure

15:48

I can take care of my family. Be there

15:51

for my mom. Be there for my

15:53

dad. I have a whole brother. Is he having

15:55

these thoughts? Probably not. I love them

15:57

though. And it's just like, There

16:00

there's a lot of stress in

16:03

being creative and also

16:07

finding the life balance. Lindman

16:09

Woll Miranda, he directed

16:12

TikTok boom. And this

16:15

was his directorial debut,

16:17

actually. Incredibly. Holy

16:19

shit. First off, I have to say,

16:22

thank god that he did this because no

16:24

one else could directed this

16:26

better. Like, this movie

16:29

was so perfect. It was just

16:31

a love letter to Jonathan

16:33

Larsen and to the Broadway community in

16:35

every possible way from the cameos

16:37

and the Easter eggs to these

16:40

beautiful musical numbers

16:42

to perfectly balancing,

16:44

like, the on screen show of

16:46

TikTok boom with the story of

16:48

TikTok boom. So, like, making that feel

16:50

natural and feel interesting

16:52

and it felt alive.

16:55

Jonathan Larsen was like Lynn's

16:57

hero. So can you imagine just going

16:59

to do that? Directing a movie,

17:02

like, of your one of your personal

17:04

heroes and, like, Like, this

17:06

is destiny manifestation levels

17:08

shit. Like, this is like like

17:10

this man he it was

17:12

just perfect. So it Like, this

17:14

is who Jonathan Larsen would

17:16

want to direct his movie. Do you know

17:18

what I mean? And also, Lynn, you're

17:20

a genius. I love you. Please, direct more

17:22

musicals. Please just go back into musicals

17:25

because we need

17:27

you. Andrew Garfield is so

17:30

phenomenal in this. Like, he perfectly

17:32

captured the essence Like, the

17:34

mannerisms, the singing style. Like,

17:36

this man learned to sing and

17:38

play the piano for this

17:40

role. Like, he did

17:42

that. He did that and did that

17:45

perfectly.

17:45

Hi. I'm

17:48

John.

17:48

I'm a musical theater one

17:51

of the last of my species. My

17:53

little half Brit. I always I

17:55

always forget he's

17:56

British, and then I see I'm talking. I'm just

17:58

like, oh, that's right. We've

18:00

got two British Spiderman's.

18:02

So

18:05

now we are going to play

18:08

a game. We are going to

18:10

create a musical

18:12

of our life. We're going to

18:14

take some of our favorite

18:16

Broadway songs other songs. We're we're

18:18

basically gonna take songs that we like or

18:20

songs that fit into a

18:22

musical that we would be making

18:24

about our own So we're

18:26

gonna have an opening number, an I

18:28

am song, an I want song, a

18:30

show stopping number, and

18:32

a finale. So princess,

18:34

what would be the

18:36

opening number of your life?

18:38

I have been watching musicals my entire

18:41

life. And I think, like, even though it's an I

18:43

want song more than an opening number,

18:45

that's okay. I think the thing I can think about is,

18:47

like, wouldn't it be loverly from

18:51

My fair lady? Oh my

18:54

god. What is the room

18:56

somewhere for like, think,

18:58

like, to me, it's just, like, me wandering in the thing. Like,

19:00

that's all I've like, it's both I want in my

19:02

opening numbers. Like, I just

19:04

have always wanted to be comfortable and

19:06

feel safe. And I think that's, like,

19:08

the ultimate yeah. That that

19:10

solves about me song. Oh my gosh. I

19:12

love that. Also, do you like opening

19:14

numbers that are flashy, do you like

19:16

opening numbers that are kind of

19:18

like leading you into the story? Like, do you

19:20

like things that are connected to the rest of

19:22

the music something that's like boom.

19:24

Oh my gosh. Like, I'm awake. I'm here.

19:26

I think it depends. Like, I think, like, when I

19:28

think of, like, weird outlying

19:30

opening numbers, I think of, like, and of the opera, which is like

19:32

-- Right. -- the opening is like a framing device

19:34

that, like, really is only there so that

19:36

people can straddle in. But I

19:38

think that the first song can

19:40

really like set the show up a lot of

19:42

purposes. I I like it to kind of like get me where

19:44

we're

19:44

going quickly, you know. Got it.

19:45

And I like it to also indicate how the

19:48

rest of the music is gonna be,

19:50

like, one of my biggest issues with the

19:52

first Frozen is that the first song you hear

19:54

in Frozen is nothing like any of the other

19:56

songs in Frozen. And Yes.

19:58

because they were like, oh, there's about to be some Lion

20:01

King Nordic Christmas. Nice.

20:03

Nice. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Frode.

20:05

Frode and Frode. You hear

20:07

that and you're like, Okay. You don't think that's gonna be, like, the fine

20:09

gravity part too. You're gonna be in that album.

20:11

But, like so I like it to set the

20:14

tone and, like, really getting you prepared. Like,

20:16

lemmas or Hobbs, like, look

20:18

down how that begins is

20:20

like, who wire? You know you're

20:22

in for, like, disaster. Correct.

20:24

And going off of that,

20:27

my opening number of my

20:29

life would be gotta

20:31

get back to Hogwarts from Team

20:34

Falcon. It's a magic in

20:36

this. It would just

20:38

you have to say that. It's so

20:41

perfect for everything just

20:43

like me getting back to

20:45

Hogwarts, getting back to what I love. Like, it's

20:47

all that I love and it's all that I need

20:49

because that's all that I love and all that I need

20:51

is Harry Potter. is like all the people I love are people

20:54

I met through Harry Potter and

20:56

also my husband is

20:59

Snape. So it may You gotta do it.

21:01

Yeah. I gotta do it. And

21:03

it's a fire opening number. Are

21:05

you kidding me? Like, when

21:07

they play those, like, du du du

21:09

du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du

21:11

du du

21:14

love it, star kid

21:16

obsessed, so that would be

21:18

my opening. Next, we're gonna do

21:20

an I am song. So this is a

21:22

song that's like the main

21:24

character would be explaining like who they

21:27

are or how they're feeling

21:29

in a moment. Like like I feel pretty

21:32

that like an I'm song or something that's

21:34

like This is my main

21:36

character. I'm giving you every single thing

21:38

about me. Like, right now, also

21:40

now, like, we can go forward with

21:42

the musical. So what would be

21:44

your I'm song?

21:46

I think my favorite I

21:48

am song is

21:50

probably to go to,

21:52

like, a more recent musical

21:54

I really love the musical six. Mhmm. I've seen

21:56

it twice. It's really fun. And

21:58

technically, all of the lady slums, they're

22:00

all pretty much I am

22:02

songs. Yes. But I really love

22:05

Katherine Howard's song because

22:07

I because it's more like narrative building, but I

22:09

love in the beginning. It's all

22:11

about sort of like her weird

22:14

experience of being like this

22:16

very young desirable girl

22:18

who doesn't really know how her sexuality

22:21

works yet. and is trying very hard to figure herself

22:23

out. I feel like that's always been kind of my

22:25

journey as like, you know, puberty

22:27

hit really hard. in the

22:29

Tata area and it was just always kind

22:31

of complicated figuring out, like, who am

22:33

I outside of how people perceive

22:36

me? So I think all you wanna do

22:38

from six by Katherine Howard is

22:40

definitely mine. What about

22:42

you? Tessa, you're such an onion. You're so

22:44

many layers to you. So I'm

22:46

like, who are you? That's the question that

22:48

I need to ask my therapist and

22:51

myself all the time because I

22:53

feel like constantly changing. It's like who am

22:55

I? To who am I? Who

22:57

am I? No. So

23:00

my I am song, I think,

23:02

would definitely be more

23:04

cheesy than that. The first thing that came

23:06

to my head was a

23:08

million dreams from The Greatest Showman.

23:11

It's like every night I lie in

23:13

bed, the brightest colors

23:15

film I have, a million

23:17

dreams of keeping me awake,

23:20

like, It's one of those

23:22

things where I am like

23:24

so soft on

23:26

the inside. Like, I'm just a

23:28

little bitch that loves like following

23:30

her dreams and, like and

23:33

wants everybody to be happy. So

23:35

I think that, like, to know the type

23:37

of person that actually am. It's like I'm just

23:39

this little little girl

23:41

that was dreaming big her whole life

23:44

and loves, like, thinking of

23:46

imagine it living in her fantasy world, living

23:48

into my imagination, living in,

23:50

like, what could I do with my life? Like, what

23:52

kind of things could I do? Like, and

23:55

Also, I've never stopped dreaming and

23:57

I never plan on stopping dreaming.

23:59

And the beautiful thing about this song

24:01

is that later, it starts

24:03

off with your Jackman's sagging about his dream, but

24:05

then it like he adds in like his wife

24:07

and his kids and it's like you're a part of

24:09

my dream now. So it's like that's kind

24:12

of me as well. It's like it started off

24:14

as my dream, but then I'm gonna add Joe into

24:16

my dream. And then, you know, if we have kids,

24:18

we're adding them into it. So

24:20

I think it would be that. It's

24:23

cheesy as hell, but what

24:25

can I say? Yeah.

24:28

Okay, Princess. Moving on to the I

24:30

want song, main character singing

24:32

about that key motivating desire,

24:34

driving their action, launching

24:37

their journey, Tell me about it.

24:39

Alright. So I'm gonna

24:41

pull from the

24:43

Disney Channel, and I'm gonna

24:46

say, yes. queen of mean

24:48

from descendants three.

24:51

Amazing. Because Sarah

24:53

Jeffrey put her whole vocal

24:55

coordinates out. And also, I love a

24:57

villain, valid. Mhmm. I love a

24:59

villain transformation valid. And I just

25:01

think what you're talking about just, like,

25:03

If they wanna villain for the queen,

25:06

I'm gonna give them what they've never seen. Like, that's

25:08

how I feel sometimes when, like,

25:10

you know when you're at the low point,

25:12

of your day, and you just, like, eff it. I

25:14

don't give a shit anymore. Like, I wanna

25:16

be, like, it reminds me of the song, I wanna

25:18

be bad. Like, it's, like, Right. But I

25:20

fundamentally wanted to, like, embrace

25:22

the parts of me that I've been afraid of

25:24

and go after what I want. And that's what a

25:26

villain saw in there.

25:28

Yes. And, like, I'm like, it's time for

25:31

me to be in my villain bag. Mhmm.

25:33

So, yeah, the sentence clean of

25:35

mean for the sentence three, is

25:37

one of my favorite songs. And I listened to the other

25:39

day, and I'm just like, perfect.

25:41

What about you? What what's your I'm

25:43

over it. It's time for me to be me

25:46

So mine is from

25:48

the musical Pippin, and

25:50

it's the song corner of the sky,

25:53

which is one of my favorite

25:55

musical theater songs of all time. It's a

25:57

special song that me and my mom used to listen to

25:59

all the time and she Corey grabbed

26:01

to dance to it and we danced together. It's

26:03

a whole thing. But the lyrics of that song are so beautiful and

26:05

really talk about, like,

26:07

what I personally want and it goes,

26:09

like, rivers belong where they can

26:12

ramble. Eagles belong where

26:14

they can fly. I've

26:16

got to be where my spirit can

26:18

run free. Gotta find

26:20

much. corner of this guy. So

26:22

it's all about, like, finding the

26:24

place where you feel like you belong,

26:26

where you feel like you're finally

26:29

free to be the person that you were meant to

26:31

be. I'm the type of person

26:33

that growing up. I did not feel like

26:35

I belonged where I lived

26:37

in Pennsylvania. I felt

26:39

that I didn't find my people,

26:41

didn't find my the

26:43

place where I was supposed to be, and then I did

26:45

find that. And So getting

26:48

there was my whole

26:50

journey and it is very

26:52

important to the type of person I am. It's

26:54

very important to my

26:56

whole life. So and I

26:58

just wanna stay in that and

27:00

and stay in that throughout my whole

27:02

life. Like, even if that changes, it's like,

27:04

I wanna be in a place

27:06

where I feel comfortable being myself

27:08

and I wanna be surrounded by

27:10

people that support me and also

27:12

people that get it I

27:15

like fine like, that's why the internet

27:17

is amazing and has

27:19

changed my whole life because I

27:21

found my people. reason why us

27:23

Geeks love to sound family trope

27:25

because we're literally always

27:27

in progress of looking for a family.

27:30

Always looking. Okay. So

27:32

next, we have

27:34

a love song

27:36

or ballad. So something

27:38

that, like, defines you, like, falling

27:41

in love or something that, like, would

27:43

go with your love or if you wanna

27:45

not have love included just like a

27:47

ballad that would be in your

27:49

musical of life. that's hard. Like

27:51

because love songs are I love, like,

27:53

breakup songs. Like, more

27:55

than love songs, you like, I

27:58

was like, yeah.

28:01

Cry. I think if I was gonna pick a

28:03

love song that I do really

28:05

enjoy from a musical, it

28:07

would probably be

28:09

on the street where you live also

28:11

from my freighters because I'm watching that as a

28:13

kid. And I love it. I

28:15

love a Simp. I love it when a guy just

28:17

out here, like, all I wanna

28:19

do is stand this girl

28:21

that I met. Hell yeah. And I'm just like, yeah,

28:23

as you should. Right? So III

28:26

really love that song. And I think if I was gonna

28:28

pick, like, even though

28:31

it's too hetero, I also love as long as

28:33

your mind from wicked. Oh,

28:36

yeah.

28:37

Maybe. Yeah. Great. Let's

28:39

Oh, maybe. I'm like, every time

28:41

I see it, I'm like, man, I wish there were

28:43

two girls singing this together, but this is

28:46

a very good song. And I did the first time I ever saw

28:48

it was when Adidas and Zealand TABiggs

28:50

were still together and they were doing it

28:53

together. And I was like, spice,

28:55

spice, spice, spice. Yeah. Insane.

29:00

What about you? What song are you are you thinking

29:02

about, Joe, when you listen to?

29:05

So my love song

29:07

has to be Come What May

29:09

from Mulan Rouge. Mhmm. I

29:11

want Ian McGregor, we

29:14

want Canopy sing in to

29:16

me. And I

29:18

just that song is one of the

29:20

most beautiful songs from anything.

29:23

Like, I will love you until my

29:25

dang day like

29:29

melting melting forever. I'm

29:32

obsessed Yeah. With that movie, with that

29:34

musical. So that

29:36

one is what immediately came to my mind, and

29:38

it's true. I'm gonna love Joe, until

29:40

I die, or until after, or until

29:42

we find become vampires.

29:45

Amazing. That good old forever

29:47

love. Okay. Next, we have show

29:49

stopping number. So basically the

29:51

big number of your musical, what

29:54

would it be? Oh,

29:56

man. Even though it's technically a

29:58

final song. I have a different one I

29:59

picked for

30:00

it, but I really love children

30:03

will listen from into the

30:05

woods. Oh. And to me, like, I like,

30:07

it is the song that I think so perfectly like

30:09

encapsulates the emotion of

30:11

the entire musical and

30:15

I don't know. I just I I can listen

30:17

to it forever. For me,

30:20

my show stopping number would

30:22

have to be lovey boe

30:24

from rent. One of my favorite.

30:28

This number made

30:30

me become obsessed to

30:33

with musical theater. Mark

30:36

Cohen made me

30:38

obsessed with musical theater and

30:40

also maybe want to

30:42

become a vlogger. And I

30:44

I don't know. I

30:46

start shooting with my

30:48

scripts. how do you document

30:50

real life when I'm like,

30:52

it's very still relatable. Still

30:54

relatable to this. Yeah. But it's one of those

30:56

things where that number Like,

30:59

I remember there was a time when I was in

31:01

high school and we would

31:04

always just play that and have,

31:06

like, the time of our lives in the theater room, and

31:08

we would, like, I would jump on the tables and,

31:10

like, do the dance and do the whole thing. And

31:12

it was my it was everything.

31:14

That never is everything. I've us with it.

31:16

It's forever my favorite musical theater number

31:18

of all time. And, like, to

31:20

being in us for once instead of them,

31:22

it's another thing where it's, like, Hell

31:24

yeah. We're different. Hell yeah. Like, who

31:27

cares? Like, you normies. Get out of

31:29

here. Like, stop judging

31:31

us. Stop trying to control us. Stop trying

31:33

to put us in a box. Nah.

31:35

We are who we are. We're artists,

31:37

fuck

31:37

you. And I'm like,

31:39

hell yeah. I'm right. that's

31:41

so funny. God bless. Okay. Now

31:43

we're rounding it out. What

31:45

would be your finale, your

31:48

curtain call, the last

31:50

you know, song of the show. What's

31:53

it gonna be? The

31:55

color purple reprise from the

31:57

end. Like, I saw it live.

31:59

Since the original singing that was

32:01

just so beautiful. I, like, burst into

32:03

tears. Oh my god. I'm so

32:05

jealous. I it was her and Heather

32:07

Hadley was playing Shiggery.

32:09

So I was just out here just

32:12

experiencing excellence. But, yeah,

32:14

I loved that revival,

32:17

the talent was overflowing, and

32:20

I cried. So that would be it. That's my

32:22

number one pig. That's my that's

32:24

mine. Oh my god. I'm so excited

32:26

to Sierra's alpha. Forget it. I know.

32:29

Yeah. I can't kill it. I

32:31

know. I can't wait. She's an

32:34

amazing For me, my curtain call

32:36

it's kinda it's lame, but I have to

32:38

do it. I gotta do it just like how I'm

32:40

starting with Star kid. I

32:42

gotta end with the curtain call finale

32:45

of Billy Elliott. Billy

32:47

Elliott has a specific curtain

32:49

call tab finale that we would do every

32:51

single night. And it

32:54

was so fun because

32:57

most people, like, they have a

32:59

finale number and then they just,

33:01

like, come on stage for bowels and then at the

33:03

end do a little thing. No. Bilelli

33:05

had had an entire choreographed

33:08

routine where everyone in

33:10

the cast would come out

33:12

tap dancing and wearing to twos. Men,

33:14

women, children, the whole cast, so we

33:16

were all wearing to twos. We were all tap

33:19

dancing. And we were all, like, cheering on each

33:21

other and celebrating that. And it

33:23

was so fun and was, like, one of

33:25

my favorite parts of the show, like,

33:27

every single night. It was just

33:29

so fun to do. And

33:32

Billy Elliott was the Broadway

33:34

musical that I was in. So I

33:37

I had had to put Billy in accent because it

33:39

is the most special

33:41

musical of my life. Absolutely.

33:43

And, like, If you didn't know,

33:45

Tessa is, like, the most amazing

33:47

person of all time. I hope that

33:49

audiences You understand that

33:51

now? You are as well. Listen.

33:53

This is about you right now. I'm allowed

33:55

to say that you're super cool

33:57

and awesome, and you just have to just

33:59

let me

33:59

say it. I love

34:02

you.

34:06

What's

34:08

your one more thing, Princess? one more

34:10

thing is I love my cohost. But I would say if

34:13

he can sing, I would

34:15

love to see David Tennant

34:17

in a musical. Oh

34:20

god. Yes,

34:21

please. I

34:22

just want top holiday musical.

34:24

That's all. That's my one

34:28

more thing. Okay. Well, y'all, it is time once

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