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hello geeks

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and princess weeks, and i'm tessa

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netting and you are listening to podcast

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your weekly energy boost of the world phantom

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the stories, you

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love me all

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each week we're going to skim the surface

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of what's popular in geek culture than deep

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dive into the lore of that looks world bigger

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than our own world , the world

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or virtual reality games

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our patients we are talking all

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about it baby and guess that

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means by which are wichita stuff as

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i will call you out on in

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front of all front our listeners you

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i cannot believe that

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it's taken me so long

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to watch what a fantasy

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shows i think i've ever seen i

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, so com the seaports a a

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excited to talk to and

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just have had so many different

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places would hear about your gaming like

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everyday like just pisses this episode

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a very exciting is so princess before

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we go into that was guy

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gets disease

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oh my goodness i

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think what i'm really excited about

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is

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persuasion just came out on netflix, but i got to

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see it early so and

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i'm very excited about it because i

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love jane austen at a i

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love to go to johnson it's been getting like

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mixed reviews and i think people are being

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way harsh tai about it but

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that's okay i'm used to hateration holleration

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but i'm really enjoying

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it and i currently am,

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like two volumes

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deep into my sandman reread

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so it is like

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so many notes all

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over this beautiful illustrate

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edition so yeah i am thriving

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on their content right

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now what about you my beloved how

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host so for me

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i got to go to

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the resident evil series

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premiere this week and

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why guess last week man

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there was a screening of the first episode

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plus a little too and a with the main tasks

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and everyone i

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talked to seemed like really

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interested in intrigue to keep

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watching because that friggin first

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episode ends on such a cliffhanger

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word ever on was like was

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like , guys don't even though

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you may now as as we

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do that was so funny as

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his you're in l a c gets that all the fun

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events will either secure in new york

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l a saying is al saying people

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just love to party we love

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going to parties is our favorite

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thing and is really

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enjoyed watching resident evil like for

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watching second time like liked it even better because

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liked wasn't sort of lead what are these

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timelines are is all those like because i already

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knew what was happening i could really enjoy

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it and everyone my really love the easter

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eggs lance reddick as less garage

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amazing so

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we're good at like we

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got a good resident evil adaptation

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it's a miracle i'm says

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it can hop and yeah i see i went and saw

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first kill with a crowd see

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energy is is so different than when you're like watching

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it on your little cleaner screen and

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your dislikes you know like even what's going on my tv

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isn't the same as watching it on a big screen

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with people who have no idea of going to happen

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are just there to have a good time and

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are and what you got to have that that

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sounds really awesome yeah i

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find that sometimes when i'm watching just

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by myself vs with another

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person or with a group of people than my

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experience can be different to sell

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absolutely like this is fine you

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should watch it when someone because so

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many bizarre crazy things up

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and bad it just be fun to talk to someone about

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and he can hold hands when i get scary of

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course oh yeah i mean

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that's like the best part of these i don't

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have a m v like the

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after party there were like astor's

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dress up walking around in zombies

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anyways i that i'm analysis

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you remember all made sense about survival

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though like i hope that you were

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still keeping your mind on the survival

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prizes that's how they get year first they say

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like oh it is here to help they

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bite you absolutely not prince as

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i was just in legit

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i was enthralled by the zombies

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i was like oh now i wanted

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to be friend all of them guy

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on it really does not prove that are zombie

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clean ah theory

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for you is let's get a beer and game

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way

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that

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yeah i think that's

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right i think that's right and then ah

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last night i went to the premier

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of the gray man he

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got to see the sexy the sexy

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and pertussis i said i got

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to see of on the big screen all

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blown up and i

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was very surprised because i

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loved this movie a lot more than

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i thought i was going to just because

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i'm not that big of an action gao

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them who also i'm usually not that big

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of a ryan gosling down the

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damn and this mind you got

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me your gosling gao i'm a dazzling

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down now preparing you for

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barbie he's preparing you for around

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i like i'm

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completely like i get it i

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was like what people see in this guy and

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i completely understand now it

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was the dad angle you just need to make

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someone a dad and i at the i

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fall in love with them immediately so there is

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so yeah dot angle and and i'm like oh

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wow okay one more thing

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so busy princess, this is the problem,

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there's too many things happen, you

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plug my own content marketing

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eventually, because she's so good

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at promoting herself and i'm sitting here like,

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what

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i also, i'm geeked about this week is so,

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my therapist is doing such a good

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job with me, trying to learn how to have self-esteem

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again i

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feel when you are raised but

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especially when you are raised catholic the

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whole, i'd like, you internalize so many

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things and to me kinds

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of pride, like pride in your work, pioneer

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are all like little mini traps,

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you know, it's like if i lose

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myself up too much, it's going to create the fall

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and it's going to be like you know and therapists

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was just leaving know, that's

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not fair to you that's not true

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and like you've learned

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these things you didn't just get them in

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or like, look how great i am so, what

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i'm thinking the about is learning how to have high self

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esteem at getting out of the catholic school system

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system cry back to the

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actual good guides had test was going to god

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because i haven't gone

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apparently right now when getting

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released i will be at comic-con

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i'm and it's going to be

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a real fun time and i'm doing

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a cool thing with a netflix

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at comic-con i will be at cause

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playing as eddie months

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and and then i will be

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running around the common looking

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at all the different netflix booze

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and finding other eddie's

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and we're going to get all together and have

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and big eddie pick a

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council that he is and then

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we're gonna just have a good

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time like having an interview different people

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on the floor and it's going to be really

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fun but i'm just really excited to

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be addresses that he munson so

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i am so excited

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you i'm so sad for you i'm actually

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working on my first cosplay hammer

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i'm so i'm a big mattis

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a gathering fan and i'm gonna be attending

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zen pawn i go to cons to arm

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but i'm going to jump on this year and flame pod

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and for a gentile and i'm dressing up as

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this character tire through the

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planes water in the magic the gathering games and

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i commission someone to make me these to

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light up so words seven have light

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up purple swords and i got like these purple

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contact lenses ambulance so

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fire amazing because i love

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games speaking of isn't

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as episodes about it

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, have video

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sentences

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they were , bass

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baby are see what segment

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club

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but this time videogame

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addition to don't go on

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and and and i went on but this fight club

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again does it ever got a pen together

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pets against each other not pin with only

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oh that's a different types

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twelve different front office

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and see who we think would win

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would win fight club

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round one

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the first one we have is the

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one the only gerald

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from the witcher vs already

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them a trust are super tall vampire

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mommy tank brought to life

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of from resident evil eight so

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well

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long and around them

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ah man

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wow it's one of those

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things because i've been watching the witcher so

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much recently i just was

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blown away by the swords

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i don't know how

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lady how miss vampire mommy

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how see as with a sword and

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i don't know like i feel age

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i don't know girls

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you spot so many different monsters

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that i feel like you to take out the mommy unfortunately

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i i think this the i don't think she

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will be intimidating or scary to him

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whereas like with other

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people she could be intimidating she could

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sort of like be someone

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that they are scared

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of i don't know i do a better you

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get away and and but i don't

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wanna say that she's not

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amazing because i love her and she is

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a tall queen i've not played against

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her but i have watched twitch

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streams of people like of finding

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her and it was always a moment

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so i don't want to take away from her moment in

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society by i just

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think that he would win

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i have to agree with you i knowledge

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of the contrary and we get to actually fight

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but i actually agree i think that we

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are intimidated by a mommy because we want

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her to mommy isolate but girl

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has a mommy her name is jennifer

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i remembered and he's also a daddy's

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so right now he's already got

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his family together he doesn't need a mommy

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and that's fine more for this

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way mommy vs dad in

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august and the war of mommy vs

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that issue will with ah

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sadly in this case daddy daddy

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wins this time

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brown

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that we're gonna pin this in

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this corner jinx from

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me

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versus the joker

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from you know batman arkham that you know

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who the joker is guys so

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who do we think is gonna win

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princess what do you think i'm going for

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drinks because i'll never vote for the joker

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for anything except for brains the i'm

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and also i think things also makes

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her own tech and does her own tricks

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isn't need good the is

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the good and why the and the goblin

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everything like what is the joker

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skills except like puns ah

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now a domestic abuser and that's really

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and on we don't root for that here so

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i'll i gonna say is i'm jane

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also her hair is cooler well

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it seems of my girl what i

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one hundred percent think that she

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would kick his ass and i

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once every one to kick the jokers

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as and multiple reality every

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so i

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i agree i think that jinx would when i

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when things to win i'll be rooting for her

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we're rooting for you you're doing amazing sweetie

12:20

you get out early

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yes winner

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the

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wow i'm sorry next ,

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have mud man from pop

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had said had a had yes says

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we'll raise raise

12:35

messing with so wrong month buddies

12:38

and he is up against

12:40

the plumber himself is

12:42

some audio you know from

12:44

all the mario merchandise

12:47

who who do you have in this endless war of

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the ams oh man

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it's one of those things were like

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cup head is the one that's usually

12:57

you know going for it ends i

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feel like he would be the one that would normally

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try to deceive another foe

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but if mud man was come in and honestly

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, just want mug man to win because

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i cannot stand mario i'm so

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sorry for all these mario lovers out

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there but i hate most main

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characters and mario

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just annoys the crap out of me

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and especially when he's played by chris pratt

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no offense chris pratt also

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, , and chris pratt like

13:28

he is sick the dinosaurs baby box

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and like that mcmahon like i

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give my mendoza much skill you her mendoza would

13:38

say that's not the era of barrio

13:40

is done it's time for the cubs to inherit

13:42

the earth cubs to many apps it's time

13:44

for the cubs to rise because honestly

13:47

everyone loves luigi and

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oreo more

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anyway and my sonic is

13:52

better also and then finally

13:55

like all mario does is continuously

13:57

kozlov thousand pieces king

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place satisfied and them

14:02

like he's really does and the way he is

14:04

he really does the third wheel all the time

14:07

a little a leg it's time

14:09

for luigi to take back the franchise

14:11

he deserves also that one episode

14:13

of compared when mug man like had on

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those goggles and then he thought that he

14:18

was invincible and was doing everything i

14:20

just think he needs to put on those goggles and

14:22

then he will defeat mario very easily

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sell given the goggles let

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him when yeah agreed mcmahon

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man with the power of mean

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mcginn ah super

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or for

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and i think you know this is probably the shortest

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we've ever done a segment like this so i think

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congratulations to us we did as

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okay guys

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we are ready let's talk

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about the deep dark is

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scary world

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a video games and okay

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you know they are scary

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to me because i am i get

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so addicted to them that it is a

15:04

problem but which is a good segue

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because i before we get into

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the video games itself video want to learn

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princess like what is your background

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with video games are you games gay marriage you have

15:15

gay twitch channel like do you let

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me know i need to know everything so

15:20

tell me everything should have r twitch channel so

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if you could see what

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policies which is the back of my

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wall it is i'm

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on it is have to posers from fire

15:31

emblem three houses with it'll

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guard prominently featured it'll love

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video games i'm always reluctant to call

15:38

myself reluctant gamer because i like to

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play the same kind of games i'll always

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play pokemon every edition every

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time every love turn based

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rpg so i love like final fantasy tactics

15:49

advance tactics love like the fire emblem

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series emblem series

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i basically love strategy games i love anything

15:55

writing like pause think and

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i've slowly gone into dungeon crawlers like

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some the i got them in attendance switch

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and i'm also having a lot more friends

16:04

who are into games i like love hades

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i literally my

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wrists turned into like a noodle because

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i was describing through it so

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i could unlock things so much that game

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was is brilliant and i've

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been playing more to raider

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i've been playing more on

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death lube thought of war i've

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been really engaging now as an adult

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consumer of games really into

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the storytelling aspects of it

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know for me it's like a sorry offers as

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i i just want this distraction where i can just go

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into well and be fully immersed in debt

16:38

places for like

16:40

thousand years ray and now i

16:42

really do like playing a game

16:44

that is taking me on a world building

16:47

journey and i get

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to do it with this little person i

16:51

get to control so i love blaze i've

16:53

also been an entire summer playing

16:55

the sims so that that's my

16:57

origin story as it's pokey mon

16:59

and than everything else gotta catch em all

17:02

are you like a completion s

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or do you like to just sort

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of explorer do your own thing like

17:08

you need to get

17:10

everything to a hundred and then you like to play again

17:13

or how do you like to play games i games not

17:15

am complicitous which is probably my big

17:17

as big as like i as i

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am about to win season i don't

17:22

i usually stop playing i like to live

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on the lease , part

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of the reason why i like three houses so much

17:29

as because like there was so much more to do

17:32

after you completed a

17:34

game like the epa play the other two houses

17:36

there are houses i see he did you

17:38

unlock all the supports all so i like win

17:40

a game you so many

17:43

avenues to keep enjoying it after you

17:45

for is the main game which is

17:47

which is what you think i am trying to work

17:49

on being a completion ist i'm currently

17:52

trying to complete miles morales

17:54

madhavan

17:56

very hard to sit sit sit you

17:58

just don't want to end

17:59

i don't i want to keep in i

18:02

see i want to keep living that experience

18:04

and i think there's a part of me the like

18:06

frugal part of me that's like all if i'm still playing

18:08

and then with i'm still getting my money's worth out

18:11

of it you know and almost as if i stop

18:13

playing and i'm like well done with that sixty

18:15

nine ninety nine assists assigned

18:18

to the next on so any easier and feel

18:20

decided that i that i'm still getting

18:22

money out of this this purchase

18:25

and you have like a favorite platform

18:27

do you play it like computer games are you just

18:30

a minute of have no girl i'm at and a

18:32

girl because i love handheld i love

18:34

i love the switch light so that's what i have

18:37

i looked at as be in bed grinding

18:39

through light other like on replace him as the for a

18:41

bad eleven o'clock next

18:43

deny now the such as coming up my wrist

18:46

is swollen and i

18:48

have a mess on through a journey and

18:50

i and i literally just been playing

18:53

zachary is killing is that

18:55

a bunch of times so like that at me

18:57

like i will i love that i ultimately

18:59

face and girls so didn't know

19:02

and playstation i don't look at a max

19:04

logs i've never seen as bar as

19:07

a common ones and zeroes

19:10

i don't know i'm i'm very much

19:12

a loyal nintendo playstation

19:15

person god and about

19:17

you being so for

19:19

me i i'm

19:21

a voice actor so i have been

19:23

lucky enough to actually like voice and characters

19:26

in video games and fielding

19:28

voice acting is just on

19:31

, level like all have

19:33

so much respect for these

19:35

voice actors because not only

19:37

are you acting the stories

19:39

but then you have to make like playing

19:42

the game believable speakers

19:44

is it's like you need to put in

19:47

this insane physical effort

19:49

and make it feel like you're

19:51

in battle because the voices is

19:53

what's like bringing this whole game to live

19:55

in conveying like

19:57

the feeling real to the person

19:59

as playing

19:59

though it's so difficult

20:02

you have to be able to die many

20:04

different ways it's like okay us to die

20:07

falling off a cliff now you're dying getting

20:09

says has his all sound different

20:11

so it's like us and ten different ways of dying

20:13

that sound different you have to have all

20:15

these different ways of doing efforts it's

20:19

, a specific skill and the people

20:21

that are good at it or so good

20:23

at it and i just i i bow

20:25

down on but personally

20:27

for me with video games themselves i

20:31

, , say about is lesley

20:33

by myself because by

20:36

myself get addicted in

20:39

a way that is so destructive

20:41

to not only myself but every

20:44

person around me like i cannot

20:46

be a productive member of society

20:48

and play video games and i completely

20:51

way my mother for this because

20:54

growing up i was a playstation

20:56

kids are we had a played yes in that me

20:58

or my sister were obsessed with it we

21:00

played it constantly i

21:02

love to the crash bandicoot games like

21:04

especially like crash team racing by

21:07

the reason why i blame my mother for my

21:09

video game addiction is because she

21:12

did not buy us a memory

21:14

card we didn't own a memory

21:16

card so the only way

21:18

that we could finish the game is he would

21:21

have to play at all in one sitting

21:23

so abbey and minuses undergrad what

21:27

, would do is he would wake up

21:29

early and the whole day

21:31

we would spend playing this game because

21:33

we would wanna beat it and we would try to get as far

21:35

as we code code he was

21:37

so unhealthy because now in

21:39

my brain i just like whenever i play video

21:41

games are like oh well i just have to keep playing

21:44

until it's complete and

21:47

now nowadays there's even more

21:49

this more and more hours that you need to

21:51

put into a game and so

21:53

it says it does not work for me i can

21:56

play games if it's like a multi player

21:58

if a multi play with other people i also

22:00

love watching people play video games

22:03

i like watching different people's twitch channel

22:05

of joe my husband which i'm

22:07

sorry i'm going to mention him but like almost

22:09

every podcast episode because i'm just so

22:12

and love it and it's this essay and in

22:14

we both love nerdy things okay this is the reason

22:16

i married him but he loves

22:19

video games he loves it it's it's

22:21

, the point where we have like

22:24

almost every system he is a sledge

22:26

we have an icebox we have a playstation we have

22:28

everything and we will continue to get every day

22:30

because that sort of his release

22:32

you know he doesn't work in anyplace video games but

22:36

i love watching him play him really do

22:38

like it's one of those things where

22:40

a lot of people didn't understand

22:43

like was why would you watch

22:45

someone play someone twitch side was just play

22:47

it yourself and it's yourself and satisfying

22:50

to watch someone i'll play specially so glad

22:52

i mean that you have another level but

22:54

it's also really cool to watch because

22:57

video games are so

22:59

personal because you

23:02

get to decide that like the journey

23:04

that your character's going on and what you wanted

23:06

to realize and it's cool

23:09

to watch other people play because not only

23:12

will sometimes they choose something that you would

23:14

not do so you're like oh

23:16

this is cool water wonder what they're going to do

23:18

but then also you get to let go on

23:20

his journey with them so it feels

23:22

like the collective experience

23:24

even though you know it's really personal

23:27

the them and that's why like with these gamers

23:29

at why people feel so connected to them

23:32

because they're going on these personal experiences

23:34

with them because video games are so personal

23:36

so yeah i like watching people play i'll

23:39

play like if it's a fine multiplayer game

23:41

with people that's ten i'll play by

23:43

myself it is sad

23:46

i love watching you play and what you said it said shoe

23:48

i have a there's a friend of mine named henry rosenberg

23:50

him he like does like the video as

23:52

a what i love about how he talks about

23:55

video games and watching him play as that he plays

23:57

totally different than i would see you know like

23:59

for the like there's his game cosplay

24:01

the spire and my partner always

24:04

plays the point is index

24:06

because stats house he likes to do it

24:09

with me i like to play the weird

24:11

one cared to that has this deck that like build

24:14

with all orbs and it's like it's two

24:16

completely different mindsets you know when i

24:18

played when i played tomb raider like the

24:20

new tomb raider games i'm just doing it's

24:22

like and merch people from a distance moment

24:25

you want me to low by

24:28

someone with a gun close-up i'm like stay

24:30

away from me like that's what that's like that group is

24:32

so hard for me because they want to do both and i'm like

24:34

but i want to just do the ones

24:37

yeah like the idea of my way

24:40

and , my lifestyle right for me

24:42

the amelie combat i'm trying

24:44

to shoot arrows nine not

24:47

trying to stab us

24:50

so yeah it's always interesting to see how like that's what makes

24:52

elden ring so cool is because everyone

24:54

can build their own thing and build a totally different

24:56

way me my dumb

24:58

self i'm sitting here like i wanna

25:01

be a magic user do

25:03

a fight with magic know i've always starts

25:06

on everyone else's like you have

25:08

to buddhist so that your only ever doing

25:10

magic and i'm like

25:11

ha no but i'm on a

25:14

bad say that's it says man i

25:17

wish i had sambo specific sambo specific

25:19

that i love when people play games

25:21

and chaotic ways it's my favorite

25:23

like i remember as a kid playing halo

25:26

like going to my friend's house and playing halo

25:28

and my favorite thing would be to like

25:30

jump in this invisibility saying and

25:32

just be invisible run

25:34

around in a circle and just two people

25:37

and it's like you the and it was so hard for

25:39

people to get me that like i

25:41

would end up winning but it is because

25:43

i was so chaotic that they couldn't like see

25:45

what i was doing joe and thing that he

25:47

likes to do when he plays call of duty instead

25:49

of like shooting a hillbilly nice guys

25:52

let's play nice guys and i'll just say

25:53

the

25:56

okay audited super that everyone

25:59

like play the reward why is there

26:01

was a says

26:03

that

26:05

pretty good lawyer be like weird

26:07

and do something different and stick as most

26:09

people just do the obvious thing

26:11

so i like that princes i think you should keep playing

26:13

the way that you like

26:15

yeah i guess i just love playing it in

26:17

my own way and doing and with my

26:20

own energy and

26:22

like that's a mix of fun that's why

26:24

his leg tactics games are engaging

26:26

to me like that really into

26:28

says civilization

26:30

while i would when it was released on the switch because

26:33

i was just like every time was

26:35

a new seeing any was

26:37

always evolving and changing and

26:39

i think that's what makes playing a video

26:41

game so interesting is that like your choices

26:43

do have consequences that you

26:46

hospital and you have to eventually learn

26:48

how to play smarter like it's a nimble

26:50

know really great exercise

26:53

any you trying to crack

26:55

whatever puzzle the game is putting in front of

26:57

you and i think that's what makes him so engaging

26:59

and that's why for so long it's

27:02

been hard to see how that translates

27:04

into a so but we have

27:06

been fully seeing that come to

27:08

fruition right yeah it's

27:11

really interesting to see these

27:13

sort of like video games become

27:16

adaptations because a lot

27:18

of times people have

27:20

such have love for these franchises

27:22

for these games already and

27:25

so there's and lot of pressure there but

27:27

my favorite kinds are

27:29

on shows like are keen are compared

27:31

so that don't have

27:34

like the video game itself doesn't have

27:36

a lot of war or backstory

27:38

to add some then when you can add

27:40

that in and then after

27:43

knowing that if you go back and play

27:45

the game it's like you can play

27:47

that game with fresh eyes

27:50

and just with this new love

27:52

for these characters because you know so much

27:54

more about than that it does he

27:56

comes as whole new experience so i

27:59

i think it's really and i think that

28:01

video games said you know there

28:03

should be more adaptations of video games into

28:06

movies and tv shows because

28:08

it makes sense because so many

28:10

of these games like the storytelling

28:13

is so glad it's yeah it's

28:15

good as this is my favorite

28:17

example as castle vein yeah because no

28:20

names are very like they're fun they're

28:22

gods we love it but the way they

28:24

turn that series into

28:26

a motion all access them saw

28:29

like vampire gothic crisis

28:31

leggings and i feel i was the greatest romantic

28:33

heroes of all i am with an icon

28:36

a gay icon allah card you know all

28:38

of that was is so well done

28:41

and like and had where i like the most optimistic

28:43

happy endings i've ever seen

28:45

him the an amazing was gorgeous edges

28:47

new liked this story holds

28:50

up the story is good well

28:52

as take that story and flush

28:54

it out and make it interesting make these

28:56

bring these characters and the game to live

28:58

really like give the little caesars but

29:00

don't get so caught up with trying to recreate

29:03

every single ray and the game

29:05

because you can see a completely different

29:08

media but you have the exact therefore

29:10

fi the started out with three when i think tassels

29:12

amia and the wizard to does that

29:15

really well because the winter is

29:17

full of mythology and yeah well

29:19

as sub which mix it up the went to become

29:22

like a game of thrones type fantasy

29:24

series times the

29:26

prosecuted from book so it's like it's a you know it's

29:28

already able to get down into so

29:30

many different ways of telling a story

29:32

and i love that

29:34

oh my gosh i completely agree

29:36

it's i think we're so lucky

29:38

to be has to be

29:40

alive to be alive in this time right

29:42

now where muscle

29:46

right now video games are

29:48

such an evolving art

29:51

form that just thinking about

29:53

the games that i played back

29:55

when i was a kid and the games that are available

29:57

now and how technology has like she

29:59

damn and made them even more immersive

30:02

even more realistic even more

30:04

like incredible that i can't

30:06

even imagine like in the next like

30:09

thirty years what's gonna happen to

30:11

video game so it's like it's ,

30:13

cool to see that change and

30:16

to me like with video games

30:19

you're basically bringing together three

30:21

worlds you're bringing together like

30:23

division of the game that's like made by

30:25

the creator and then you have the game

30:27

itself which is like bringing

30:29

that vision to live with like the voice acting

30:31

the enemy sense and then you have then player

30:34

of the game who is like following the story

30:37

that like the creator made

30:39

split it's like basis of their own choices

30:41

like we were saying so it's like becomes more personal

30:44

so it's like these shows are

30:46

just teachings that formula and then

30:48

adding onto it's making it even

30:50

more rich making the world building the

30:52

the whole experience so

30:55

much cooler because then you

30:58

can interact with it interact different mediums

31:00

in different ways in love when that happens with

31:02

any franchise like i'm always

31:04

like the type of person where i'm not a

31:07

big ten and person ten and hey let's

31:09

try this out let's have fun doing this

31:11

because if you love something and

31:13

as a certain way like if you are obsessed

31:15

with the video games go

31:17

back and play that game by game has not changed

31:20

and , like and you can still enjoy

31:23

the game and have fun

31:25

and enjoy something else in

31:27

that realm it doesn't have to ruin

31:29

that for like a for me

31:31

it never ruins it for some people i know that's

31:34

a problem but i wish that people would

31:36

let that go he does then

31:38

it's it's so much more fun when you can just

31:40

slides explorer the imagination

31:43

a little bit bit things have

31:45

to evolve i mean like our things

31:47

can't say stagnant as a medium of thousand

31:49

t v your games would not be getting better

31:52

you know even though it's different for

31:54

me like when the new it's mortal kombat

31:56

came out i loved it so much

31:58

the storytelling was bored

31:59

the an amazing was great

32:02

the character design was really good ah

32:05

there was some voice acting issues but like

32:07

it was a solid games and seeing the will be like

32:09

they're not second cd more i'm like mean

32:11

grow up variety of that

32:13

are meant to be either

32:15

violent video games and that was i

32:17

love yeah i'd easier biggest concern

32:20

are that cities i we are you

32:22

even gaining insight there

32:26

are you could find animated boobs everywhere

32:29

yeah not hard not an accomplishment

32:31

oh yikes creating a release

32:34

league game where there are steaks

32:37

where there's character arcs like that's the

32:39

core of the game yeah and when you

32:41

reduce it is as these weird blue

32:43

conversations it really does a disservice

32:46

to the media it does a disservice to everyone who

32:48

plays the game life because it's so much

32:50

more than that going on for sir

32:52

and it's like you can still find the boobs

32:54

they will exist the fan art will exist

32:57

and uk their yeah exactly so

32:59

it's yeah that really annoys me to

33:01

and people just get caught up in these little things

33:03

or when disorders the

33:06

sands of these games get

33:08

so protective and so

33:10

they're like the it has to be seen in this way i

33:12

think it's because videogame still so personal

33:14

to than that they're like it this is going

33:16

to be created into another are form it needs to

33:18

be exactly how i pictured it and exactly

33:21

how i played it in all my favorite parts have to be

33:23

in it and it's not that it sucks and

33:25

it's like ah don't you see

33:27

that like every person has a different experience

33:29

with every game that it's like even if it's

33:31

not your perfect visit it might be someone elses

33:34

perfect vision for it so that

33:36

is an eighth me as well where i wish

33:39

people would be a little more open self

33:41

amended i guess that be special because like

33:44

there are nepotism their a valid criticisms

33:46

roma hum the to me like a nit

33:48

pickers like if of color is deaf france

33:51

f like you're upset about race bedding

33:53

than you just also race as like those are like

33:55

as smart as you're like i have a bad see

33:57

should have been that we are that that like

34:00

right things are nitpick susan and

34:02

like we all have that

34:04

the actual criticism is like say something

34:06

was more setting was queer

34:09

the gave and it got caught when it at it that a

34:11

dazzling the worth discussing rather than

34:13

it's worth didn't like why do they make

34:15

a choice to d canonized this

34:17

thing see and i feel like because

34:20

we always are having like

34:22

the pedantic conversations

34:24

we can actually discuss like how

34:27

can we adapt of video games

34:30

in the modern era to be

34:32

more content is like to me there for example

34:35

mom to later is already like

34:37

kind of inherently problematic

34:39

franchise as it is like this british women

34:41

going around other people can just taken a shit

34:43

right and like the games have tried

34:45

to really deal with that especially

34:47

the recent was it's like and now it has been

34:50

work to another adaptations how are

34:52

they not it has that same material

34:54

would make it work for a narrative

34:57

and that's gonna be the journey because you have

34:59

to go with that concept forwards

35:02

and also i think and you could it i think

35:04

you'll agree this is only lox a watch video

35:06

games since moving out the part

35:08

that is worth watching re not

35:10

just that gaming mechanics yes

35:13

yes to be real iran's

35:16

arcane is one of the best animated

35:18

things i've ever seen

35:21

like ever i like it was

35:23

sometimes animation

35:26

just blows me away like

35:28

away into the spider verse avatar

35:31

the lion king the freakin looney

35:33

tunes like enemies in can be so iconic

35:36

and to me

35:37

this show worldwide

35:39

was iconic in itself even

35:41

outside of the video game because i had

35:43

never played league of legends i've never

35:46

watched league of legends i like i

35:48

knew nothing about it but i

35:50

watching arcane they did such a good

35:52

job of creating

35:54

this world and taking like

35:57

taking this game that is just as

35:59

site game and turning it into

36:01

this there's a masterpiece

36:04

it's i was so of

36:06

so blown away the animation style

36:08

was so the words as

36:10

and the world building the

36:12

story telling the character development the music like i

36:15

could go on and on about how i

36:17

think this is one of the most perfect

36:20

animated ring adverts

36:23

but then so it's like okay we have

36:25

this little thing that is perfect in itself

36:27

and , there's a game like oh yeah there's

36:29

other day that exists

36:32

and this one this feel is

36:34

very different than something like the witcher

36:37

were what's your

36:39

again and again i know this because

36:41

i've had conversations with my friend brizzi

36:43

would go with people that a play these games i've not

36:45

played his games but the

36:47

witcher the with your show

36:49

in the witcher game feel like

36:52

they're in they're same world and the same

36:54

universe like after you play

36:56

like as he played with your inbox the witcher is

36:58

like a connection that way arcane

37:01

a d sort of took

37:03

the thing

37:03

they do completely different directions

37:06

and i think it shows that you can

37:08

also do that like you don't have

37:10

to stay into the same

37:13

vibe that the game always

37:15

gave us because i think that is something

37:18

that everybody wants to see but i think this is

37:20

sort of prove that you

37:22

can take a game that people

37:24

are used to playing and completely

37:26

flip it around and turn it into something

37:29

different and or new are exciting and

37:31

then if you go back and play that game it makes

37:34

it even cooler so i it's just like to

37:36

two different ways of at of like adapting

37:38

it in this way so i

37:40

would do you

37:42

you agree or do you think that arcane

37:44

like have you play league of legends that all have

37:46

you ever played i played a little bad arm

37:48

and i and i was familiar with the drink

37:50

from the like i kept seeing her lungs i

37:53

really you know sometimes when you

37:55

do up for equal next year

37:57

as we know from our daddy and again you

37:59

know now as we now have from

38:01

that generation on it can really

38:03

be hit or miss by a good job

38:06

of doing that which inks while

38:08

also making like it takes nothing

38:10

away from riley's

38:12

anything to you something i'm a little bit

38:14

more familiar with capella you

38:17

know it's the game is really

38:19

hard it's hard it's

38:21

it's it's i've been playing it a little bit with

38:24

my partner and it's it's very challenging

38:26

and like when i first was so

38:28

i was leg but there's a silver children like

38:31

can't be the games and

38:33

i think that's and in a lot of people

38:36

like another with some light discussions

38:38

discourse about the show because

38:40

it was a more you know lighter

38:43

fluffier meal then the game

38:45

but light of course it is like three game

38:49

how loud me where and lay ahead as

38:51

the show and that same way and

38:53

it's necessary and i'm anything about

38:55

you i know so many little kids

38:58

my friend brian his son loves

39:00

cop had and was talking to me all

39:02

about it's like that audience loves

39:04

it and he also enjoys

39:06

playing the game right a both complement

39:09

each other you know it's what we don't

39:11

want to be doing an olive poke him on the

39:13

show yeah i put play the game

39:15

and i would be so angry when the rules it

39:17

matches but i still knew that

39:19

they were two separate things they were you feel

39:21

like i think that audiences can

39:24

live in both worlds it's about

39:26

how willing the yard to accept that

39:28

and there are games that have

39:30

such an intense storytelling

39:32

aspects so with those games i

39:35

i get that if you're watching

39:37

a show you want to experience

39:39

the story again because that's why

39:41

you play the game is for the story rather

39:43

than like you know compared or

39:45

arcane it's like those games you're not really

39:47

there for the story you're there to just like

39:50

experience the characters and have fun and like

39:52

you know side people and with

39:54

that then that then the creator

39:57

more more room to do things

39:59

but

39:59

like the last of us or something like

40:02

those those games at

40:04

like have such is

40:06

such intense storytelling

40:09

vibes that if you if you went

40:11

too far also that like it's almost

40:13

an insult to the game they're

40:17

built that way and i think natalie every game

40:19

say and that's what makes resident evil so interesting

40:21

a man's eyes because it is

40:23

this ever evolving ever changing

40:26

narrative and just

40:28

a by you know capitalism is the real

40:30

enemy but also zombies

40:32

kind of vibe and everything you know like that

40:36

it's a series where you can keep explaining

40:38

how did we get here and moving back and

40:40

forth through time kind of like what the new netflix

40:42

series is doing and i think

40:45

oh that's an interesting way like remembering the

40:47

human element because my

40:50

friend has kind of help me realize video

40:52

games are about tapping into

40:54

your humanity and transposing

40:57

it onto its paradise said his

40:59

you but doesn't actually exist fly

41:01

and taking into account what they might

41:03

feel as a character versus

41:05

what you feel as the player going

41:08

new their journeys and that's an

41:10

experience that ledge you

41:12

don't have with like a book you

41:14

know you can't is where the bug yeah

41:16

but you can play the game and i sense

41:18

that

41:20

when

41:21

creator is can tap into the humanity

41:23

of the game that's when you get the best

41:25

stuff and that's why i think this news resident

41:28

evil looks an interesting because taking the

41:30

main villain per ricky putting him

41:32

in his kids at the forefront of it i'm like okay

41:34

this is going to be interesting how is it going to tie

41:36

into the main universe how are they

41:39

nice because going to react to this and this and this and

41:41

all that is something that

41:43

you can get now and this adaptation

41:45

that you couldn't get into the game

41:46

the

41:50

i have one last question for you my darling

41:53

cohost yeah up of what

41:55

was your favorite video game

41:57

death

41:58

than to make

41:59

me oh yeah know

42:02

ah

42:05

a why it's dying at but i can't

42:07

do it because it would be it would hurt everyone's

42:10

ears the most is the video game

42:12

characters are i play our little

42:14

kids so they are like twelve years old

42:16

like little younger so my

42:18

boys idyllic pitch it up a little bit and it's like

42:21

like talking like this oh can't

42:23

even imagine i wouldn't freak the been

42:27

like , is like my little kid like yeah it's like

42:29

a little kid points in fact

42:33

and i knew you'd like that's what i mean i don't want to actually

42:35

scream but it's that is one

42:37

of the most fun things to do

42:39

is to just go full out

42:42

and just be like okay and need to like prep

42:44

everybody and they like turned down the game and

42:46

everyone's like okay we're ready like a time

42:48

to die and , always have to save

42:50

it for like the end of the session because of you do

42:52

it at the beginning you'll just blow your voice out

42:54

completely so a

42:56

that's always so so so

42:58

so so so so fun i love that

43:01

sounds so fun been it

43:04

really i wonder who who plays fighting

43:06

game but that's my other favorite kind of game like

43:08

i have heard the cries

43:11

of many a high pitched from harris

43:13

or yeah yeah

43:16

exactly exactly that

43:19

is excellent you are excellent you

43:21

are games you excellent are

43:24

valid oh my gosh dennis

43:26

all the video games and all the video game adaptations

43:29

video game them please on that

43:31

no please tweet us at netflix

43:34

good about what are some of your favorite

43:36

video game adaptations and what

43:38

video games you want to see adopted

43:40

we want