0:02

I'm not moved by what

0:05

I see. I

0:08

don't live by what

0:10

I see because

0:13

my God has

0:16

made a way for

0:19

me. Hello

0:23

everybody. I'm Kenneth Copeland. This is the

0:25

Believer's Voice of Victory broadcast. Thank you

0:27

for joining us today and

0:29

once again today we're here with Andre

0:32

and Jenny and the whole

0:34

class and we're talking about faith of

0:36

course and the faith

0:39

dome which is just absolutely magnificent

0:41

because I was there when it

0:43

wasn't and I went back

0:45

when it was. So

0:48

I got the

0:50

way before then

0:52

after and

0:54

it's amazing. But

0:57

now we were talking yesterday, May had

1:07

come, school was out and

1:11

my landlord that

1:13

owned that little house that

1:17

we had rented that the university had, or

1:20

you had rented some of them before and

1:24

he owned several of them and he was

1:26

a Mormon lawyer. I

1:29

went to see him to

1:31

get some things about the house and

1:34

he said, now Kenneth, you just think that

1:37

us Mormons don't know Jesus. He

1:39

looked me in the eye. He said, I want to

1:41

tell you something brother, Jesus Christ

1:44

of Nazareth is my Lord and savior.

1:46

Now what else do you want? So

1:48

I had him draw up the papers.

1:50

Kenneth Copeland Evangelistic Association in the state

1:52

of Oklahoma had it all ready to

1:54

file. So

1:56

here I am the next morning. Well,

1:59

school is out. that happened back up during the year.

2:05

And the Lord said, I'm ready for you now.

2:09

Okay. I want you to go

2:11

back to Fort Worth. Ready

2:13

as part of your destiny there. I don't

2:16

want to do that. And,

2:19

uh, because it's my hometown. I

2:22

was sitting there murmuring about

2:24

it. I

2:27

really did want, I

2:29

wanted to continue to fly for him. And because

2:33

I was so close to him and, and

2:35

we had developed such a, such

2:38

close closeness together. Anyway, phone

2:44

rang and

2:46

Gloria was sitting there at the little

2:48

table. She

2:50

found the base to

2:52

it in a junkyard and

2:55

she found the top to it in an

2:57

old store and she

2:59

put the two of them together and antique

3:01

them. Gives

3:05

you some idea of the

3:07

wealth she married into. Phone

3:09

rang. Gloria said, it's brother

3:11

Nichols. Well, he's

3:16

pastor of the Grace Temple Church here in Fort

3:19

Worth. And

3:22

when my mother and dad got to left full of

3:24

fellowship from among a Baptist, well,

3:26

they moved up. That's brother Hagin's term, you know, what

3:28

had happened to them too. So

3:31

that was their home church.

3:33

In fact, he, he had baptized Gloria

3:36

and me and John and Kelly. Wow.

3:38

Wow. Wow. And so that was our

3:40

home church. When can you come

3:42

and preach me a meeting? And

3:45

I said, well, brother Nichols, I'd like to say that

3:47

I need to check my schedule, but I don't have

3:49

one. When do you need me? He said, could

3:53

you come this next weekend? That's

3:56

yes, sir. Well,

4:00

And so we went. We

4:06

got to the very end of the first week and that weekend

4:08

he said, we need to go on with this because I was

4:10

just teaching Mark 11, 23, four and five. And

4:14

the saying part. Thank you, come on. And

4:20

Lou walked around with her

4:22

Bible in one of the morning service. She

4:24

said, I thought I knew something about this

4:26

book. And she had tears coming. Wow. We

4:31

got to the end of the day. He said, let's go another week. I

4:34

said, okay. We

4:37

went another week. Let's go another week. Okay.

4:41

Went three weeks. We

4:44

got out from, in

4:48

the car, sitting there in front

4:50

of the church. Where are you going from now? I said, I have

4:52

no idea. Kelton

4:56

Sutton called me. I

4:59

said, when can you come

5:01

and preach me a meeting? I said, when he went. Next

5:04

weekend. That one went three weeks. Now

5:08

his dad, dad Sutton lived in Beaumont. And

5:12

he was there at the end of that because Hilton had called

5:14

him and said, you better come hear this young man. So

5:17

he came. He said, when

5:20

can you come to me? So

5:22

I went three weeks there. And then we started,

5:24

he said, I want you every month. Praise

5:28

God. And then from

5:30

that, and

5:33

then we began to have some meetings in

5:35

other churches. Then

5:38

the full gospel businessmen began to invite me.

5:40

And then the Lord said, you

5:42

receive every invitation they give you unless

5:45

I tell you differently. And

5:49

so it began to grow and build. See, he had a plan all

5:51

the time. Right. Right. Well,

5:55

it was in that meeting. At

6:00

Grace Temple Church, I

6:05

was preaching from the book of Romans.

6:09

They're at my mother and dad's house. Back

6:14

in what used to be my bedroom. I

6:18

came across, I was reading the 13th chapter of Romans, I

6:20

was going to preach on the government. You got

6:22

out of the eighth verse, oh no man, anything but

6:25

the loving. I got

6:27

the amplified and said, stay out of debt. So

6:31

I hollered Gloria and I came in there and

6:33

she said, if that's what the book says, that's

6:35

what we're going to do. So

6:37

it changed our entire destiny. Right there

6:40

at that moment. I

6:46

would have missed that entirely if

6:49

I had ignored and stayed in

6:51

Tulsa. I

6:53

would have made a larger mistake as I have

6:55

been when I didn't want to go in the

6:57

first place. That's right. Obedience.

7:01

Yeah. And it

7:03

was just those little devils at

7:05

a time like this and it

7:09

began to grow

7:12

and develop. Right. And now here we

7:14

are. So now let's

7:16

go over here to book, let's

7:19

see what Jesus said here. I

7:21

want to point out something to you. Now

7:24

each one of us have talked about the

7:26

plans that he gave us. And then once

7:32

we knew that plan, then

7:35

you pray and you seek the Lord until you

7:37

get direction and make sure

7:39

you know it is the right thing

7:43

to do. And there's so

7:45

many times I'd start in one direction and

7:47

Gloria's saying, I think we better wait and

7:49

pray about this. Well, okay. And sure enough,

7:52

and then I think we

7:58

can't borrow the money. No.

8:03

Oh, the Lord stopped

8:05

my impulsiveness right then. Greatest

8:09

thing ever. Anyway, let's look

8:11

at this in

8:15

that 22nd verse, Mark 11 and 22.

8:19

Now wait a minute. Go

8:21

down to 14th verse. No

8:23

man eat fruit of thee

8:25

hereafter and forever. Nine

8:30

words. And

8:34

in the morning as they passed by, they

8:36

saw the fig tree dried up from the

8:38

roots. If we are not at the root,

8:42

what did God say and does it

8:44

match this book? These

8:47

blood covenants. I

8:49

have to find it here because

8:52

the way this book is written, it

8:55

had to be spoken here for it

8:57

to happen here. Jesus

9:00

would say, have you not read of me? Jesus

9:05

went into Peter's house. So his wife mother laid

9:07

sick of the fever. He touched her hand, the

9:09

fever left her. When she got

9:11

up and ministered to them, when evening was

9:14

come, they, well, who's they? Whomever

9:20

the spirit of God

9:22

called, because here's why. When

9:25

evening was come, they brought many

9:28

who were possessed with devils. He

9:30

cast out the spirits with his word, healed

9:34

all that were sick, that it might

9:36

be fulfilled, which was spoken by Isaiah

9:38

the prophet. You have to go back

9:41

to the book of Genesis to find

9:43

that out because

9:46

God spoke this whole thing

9:48

into existence and gave all

9:50

the authority to his

9:53

man. All

9:56

of it. So the word had

9:58

to come from heaven. through

10:00

a man and establish it on

10:03

the earth so

10:05

that at the exact moment in Bethlehem,

10:07

which was spoken by Micah, the prophet,

10:10

715 years later, it came to pass.

10:14

Come on. Come on. Have

10:25

faith in God for verily I say unto you

10:27

whosoever, shall say unto

10:29

this mountain, be thou removed, be thou cast

10:31

into the sea and shall not doubt in

10:34

his heart, but believe that those

10:36

things which he says shall come to pass,

10:38

he shall have whatsoever sayeth. Therefore I say

10:40

unto you, so he put this into motion

10:42

right then. What things

10:44

soever you desire, when you pray, believe

10:46

that you receive them and you shall

10:49

have them. And when you stand praying,

10:51

forgive if you have ought against any

10:53

that your father also in heaven may

10:55

forgive you your trespasses. He

10:58

said it, he spoke to it. Verse

11:03

27, they came again

11:05

to Jerusalem. He

11:08

said, I only say what I

11:10

hear my father say. That's what I wanted to get

11:13

to. I only hear what I

11:15

hear my father say and I only do

11:17

what I see my father do. He spoke

11:19

to that thing and turned his back on

11:21

it and walked off. He

11:24

didn't care if that tree could be standing there now

11:26

with leaves on it and no man would ever eat

11:28

fruit of it again. But

11:31

as it was, his words went right to

11:33

the roots of the thing and they came

11:35

back and saw that thing standing there dead.

11:41

Dead. Because

11:45

the invisible,

11:52

most powerful force known

11:56

to the human kind. the

12:00

faith of God. It's

12:03

the creative force. And

12:06

in this case, it came out of the

12:08

mouth and the heart of God himself, and

12:11

it just killed that tree. But

12:16

what did he do? There's an end of

12:18

it for him. That's right. He

12:23

didn't check the tree out. Peter

12:26

did, but he didn't. No. Peter

12:30

said, have faith in God, the faith of

12:32

God. Right. It's

12:35

God's faith. Right. And

12:37

that's what I want to point out. Yeah, yeah. Once

12:40

you know the plan. Yeah. And

12:42

you have God's word on it. And

12:46

it is settled. It

12:48

was settled between you and Jenny. And

12:52

now you're in agreement pair.

12:55

Come on. Amen. You are in

12:57

agreement and

12:59

the seed was in the ground. Come on.

13:04

And the day, the

13:06

way I see it in my mind. Yeah.

13:09

As far as I was concerned when

13:11

I left there, that

13:14

citation 10 was as good

13:16

as paid for. Come on, come on.

13:20

That's right. Because I had a

13:22

piece of this thing in East

13:24

London, South Africa. Come on. Come on.

13:26

Wow. That's right. And

13:29

it wasn't very long after that until, I

13:34

really didn't check

13:37

on how much money had come in. Because

13:40

I heard the Lord say it. I

13:44

want you to believe me for assessing the citation 10.

13:47

If I tell you to go to Tokyo in the morning, I

13:49

don't want you to have to ask somebody if you can go.

13:52

He'd already said to me, there's

13:55

coming a time when the airlines will not

13:57

be fit to travel. Well,

14:00

that time it has come. And

14:02

I'm not talking for the general public. It's bad

14:04

enough on general public. But

14:07

doing what I do and do it on the

14:09

airlines, I can't. I

14:12

couldn't do 10% of what I do. I'd

14:15

have to go where they go. I need to

14:17

go where he tells me to go, not where they tell me

14:19

to go. Anyway, that's cool. But

14:22

the point of it is, once

14:25

you have the plan, once

14:27

it's settled, you

14:29

believe it in your heart and you

14:32

say it with your mouth and

14:36

you know it's God's plan. Turn

14:39

your back on that, how are we gonna do

14:41

it? Right. He

14:43

has a plan. That's right. I thought that's what we

14:45

said in the first part. Yeah. Yeah.

14:47

Yeah. Here's the thing,

14:49

Brother Kenneth, and I love what you're saying,

14:51

is his plan comes but

14:55

it's amazing how our minds always

14:57

try to create our own plan. Mm-hmm. It's amazing how

14:59

this conflict comes in who we are to

15:02

wanna do it our way. That's right. Instead of wanting

15:04

to do it God's way. Now, I'll never forget what

15:07

the dome. God spoke the plan to us and

15:10

God said to us, the money is in

15:12

the floor. Jenny

15:15

and I, we jump on an airplane, we

15:18

come to America to raise the money. We

15:21

come to America to raise the money.

15:25

It wasn't God's plan. Mm-hmm. It

15:29

wasn't God's plan for us to find

15:31

the money. The money was already found

15:34

by God and

15:36

I'd heard the word from God but

15:38

the natural mind, I was

15:41

still trying to overcome this thing. Where I'm

15:43

walking in faith but my natural mind

15:45

says, well, you gotta do something. You're

15:47

all right for four and a half

15:49

million dollars. Four and

15:52

a half million rand. Correct. And so,

15:55

here we are. We're visiting everyone

15:57

in America. We've used our

15:59

lost. resource to get you

16:01

to do this, to raise the money. And

16:04

we were friends of ours in

16:06

Los Angeles and

16:08

we're in their house, we visited about 10,

16:11

15 different places, ministries and

16:13

different organizations hoping to

16:15

get help because

16:17

the natural man's kicking in to try

16:20

and make the plan fulfilled. Well,

16:22

when did you hear that about the money on the floor?

16:25

When God spoke to us under

16:27

that anointing in the dome, I

16:30

was standing in the building and

16:33

God said, the money is in

16:35

the floor. I said, Lord, how are you

16:37

going to pay for it? Now I want to get to that

16:39

part in a moment. But here we are and

16:41

the Lord said to us, what are you

16:43

doing in America? I told you

16:46

the money's in the floor. That

16:48

was the rebuke. We

16:51

packed up our bag and we went

16:53

home poorer than what we arrived. Yes,

16:55

you did. Okay. Because

16:57

when you try to do something

16:59

in the flesh, you

17:01

can't do the will of God with the

17:03

flesh. You've got to do the will of

17:05

God in the spirit. It starts in the

17:07

spirit. It starts in the spirit and it

17:09

stays in the spirit. We always

17:11

try and do it in the flesh. We

17:14

get back home and the Lord said, I told you the money's

17:16

in the floor. Now we had to raise the money to be

17:19

able to do this. I said, Lord, what are you talking

17:21

about? Now the money in the floor is twofold. And

17:23

I want to get to the second part in a

17:25

moment because the first part kicked in as soon as

17:27

we touched ground again. He said,

17:29

I've given you 600,000 square

17:32

feet. You're about to take transfer.

17:35

Now remember, we didn't own it yet. It was just

17:37

the deal was done, but we had to wait for

17:40

it to take transfer. He

17:42

said, I've given you 600,000 square

17:45

feet, lease it

17:47

out and it

17:49

will pay itself. All

17:52

right. So meaning

17:54

the money was in the square

17:56

footage of the value of

17:58

the floor. Are you with me? That

18:00

was the first fault because I'm getting to the second fault. And we

18:02

had a bunch of keys. And

18:04

on the day of occupation, they

18:06

gave us keys for rooms

18:08

and places we didn't know existed.

18:11

There were people in it that were tenants in the

18:13

building. We didn't even have to say that. We didn't

18:15

know about it. I started

18:18

collecting rentals from

18:20

people that I never knew existed,

18:22

but there was enough money in

18:25

the building that I could pay

18:27

the first payment and the deposit.

18:29

And I could start paying the

18:32

people that had given us two years to

18:34

give them the money because we never had the money. And

18:36

that's another whole story of how we

18:38

had to raise the money by who

18:41

they put in the building in the form

18:43

of tenants to be able to pay them

18:46

back. We used their own money

18:48

to buy their own building from them. And to

18:50

this day, they don't know it. That's

18:54

how God did it. Unless they watch the broadcast.

18:57

Unless they watch the broadcast. But that's how

18:59

God did it. He said, I'm giving you

19:01

a building and I'm giving you tenants and

19:03

I'm telling you the money's in the floor.

19:05

You don't need it from anywhere else. Little

19:08

did I know the money's in the floor is twofold. Because

19:12

the second part of it was the

19:15

rare timber that was

19:17

in that floor was so valuable that

19:20

we took just one portion of that

19:22

floor out when we moved in to

19:24

start building the dome, we

19:26

sold the piece of floor.

19:28

One piece. The rest we still

19:30

have to sell. We still have the floors

19:33

in there to still sell. We

19:35

sold that one piece of floor. It

19:37

was more money than what

19:40

we paid for the entire

19:42

purchase of the building. And

19:44

God said, I told you the

19:46

money is in the floor. Rentals

19:51

and value of timber. Twofold. That's

19:53

what I'm wanting to do in

19:55

your life. That's obedience. And of

19:57

course we're going to be overlaying some of this. because

20:00

we have pictures of all of

20:02

that in a flatbed truck full of it.

20:04

Right. And so I

20:06

said to him, how much did it bring? He said,

20:09

more than enough. More than enough. Amen.

20:12

Come on. Come on. Oh,

20:14

I love it. That's

20:19

obedience. Yes, it is. That's

20:21

taking the will of God, hearing

20:24

the word of faith and applying

20:26

nothing to separate your faith.

20:29

Do not allow fear to come in. Do

20:32

not allow anything to distract

20:34

you in any way. From

20:37

the faith that God has placed in your heart

20:39

for what you believing and it will

20:41

be. I saw

20:43

it years ago and sometimes I do it in a

20:45

meeting where

20:48

you just make this line

20:50

of faith. Yeah. You

20:54

step across it and

20:58

I call things that be not as

21:01

though they were. So

21:03

word gets way behind me. It's

21:07

already done. When

21:10

God appeared to Abram and changed his name to

21:16

Abraham, the H he put into the middle of it.

21:19

And I said, it's the H and Yed

21:21

Heh, Vav Heh. And

21:26

said, nations will come from here. Amen.

21:32

Now you take where

21:34

we live. The

21:43

declaration of independence was

21:50

made and signed and

21:54

started a war which

22:00

General Washington won

22:02

supernaturally. There

22:04

was a British sharpshooter said,

22:08

I'm not always shooting him anymore. Don't

22:10

even ask me to. He said,

22:12

I shot at him several times. I

22:14

think it's five times, point blank. He

22:19

said, that's a man of God. I'm not doing that

22:21

anymore. And he got in

22:23

and there were bullet holes in his

22:25

coat. He opened his Bible at the

22:27

17th chapter of

22:31

the book of Genesis. The first

22:33

president of the United States opened

22:36

his Bible at that and

22:38

said, this nation, this

22:42

nation. And

22:46

he prayed, got down on

22:48

his knee and kissed his Bible and

22:51

lifted up his arm and said, you'll

22:53

be our God. We'll be your God.

22:59

Those covenants are super important.

23:03

And when you make an agreement with God and

23:07

he agrees with you, that's

23:10

it. You

23:13

do the believing and the saying, he's

23:15

already done the saying. Come on, come

23:17

on. But our part, we

23:19

have to say what he said. Amen. The

23:22

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23:24

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and get your book today.

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Offer good for 60 days. Outside

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the United States, shipping charges may

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apply. Contact your regional office for

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more information. Hello,

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I'm Larry Warren. Faith follows the plan of

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God. In Jeremiah 29 11, God tells us,

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For I know the plans I have

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for you, says the Lord, they are

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plans for good and not for disaster,

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to give you a future and a

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hope. The message translation says,

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I have it all planned

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out, plans to take care of you,

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not abandon you, plans to give you

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the future you hope for. That

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is good news. God created

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you and His plan is a life

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plan. It's a healing plan.

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It's a blessing plan. Jesus

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said, I am the way

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and the truth in the life. No one

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comes to the father except for me. So

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take a step into God's plan. It's

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as simple as receiving Jesus into your

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heart and making him Lord of

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your life. Praise this prayer with me.

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Lord, I confess my sins before you.

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I turn my life over completely. Take

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over and be the Lord of my life. I

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receive you as my savior. I

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receive your Holy Spirit. I

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receive my new language. Thank

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you that I'm born again. Amen. Praise

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God, your spirit is born again

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and your future is bright. We

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find out in Ephesians 2.10 that

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we are God's workmanship created in

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Christ Jesus unto good works, which

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God himself has before ordained that

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we should walk in them. As

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a born again child of God, you can

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tap into the goodness and abundance of his

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plan for you. Learn God's

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voice from his word and pray,

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listen, and obey by faith. To

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learn more about this exciting journey of

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faith that you've begun today, Kenneth

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and Gloria Copeland have some free

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resources to give you called The

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Salvation Package. It includes a

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book, He Did It All for

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You, and some information to help

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you start reading and studying your

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Bible. To request your free copy

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of The Salvation Package, go to

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kcm.org. Now

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when the master said have faith in God, that's

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a command. But he

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also said when you stand praying, forgive, that's

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also a command. And

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that's huge. He

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has given us his faith

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with which to forgive. And

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that's very important. And so we'll

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be back tomorrow. And until then,

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this is Kenneth Copeland, Andre and

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Jenny, and the whole class reminding

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you again that God loves

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you. And

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we love you. And

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without this, nothing works. Jesus

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is Lord. Hallelujah.