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We're here live in LA with
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Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. I got, I
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got so much to say today. I think that I'm
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just blessed to be here with another guy from
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draft class twenty eleven. I'm bringing in
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my guy who's a quarterback for me two
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seasons ago. Andy Dalton
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started off in twenty eleven, drafted to Cincinnati.
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Had had a phenomenal career with the
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Bengals. Bengals you say, Bengals are Bingles
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Bangles Bengals, and then you know, comes
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comes comes down to New Orleans two years
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ago. Was one of the great one of my greatest
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teammates. Finally getting to go on a double date
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with me and my wife and then he kicks us to the curb
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for the Carolina Panthers.
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I appreciate you tuning.
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In, tapping in, Bro, that's how we're gonna go
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into this thing, and let's do it.
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You know, yeah, you know, you and your wife,
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me and my wife. We sit down at whatever Greek
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restaurant it was in New Orleans. After the season, I was like,
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huh, we have dinner dinner buddies now.
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Talking about our big plans of how we're gonna do life. Together,
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and next thing, you know, I'm no longer
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there.
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We're gone, like all my friends have been years.
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It just means we're old. You've been doing things the right
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way, you know.
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You know for all the things that we've talked about. You know, somewhere
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somewhere during that season we bought we brought
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back red red rocket, red rifle. I think
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I messed that up seventy five times during the season.
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I was like, for whatever it was you were, you were
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slinging, wheeling and dealing uh
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the rock, and and it came back up for
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for a solid two or three weeks like
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we were. We were in team meetings, we had the Cincinnati
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Bengals play where you became red rifle
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and red rocket, red.
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Rifle, red rifle, red rifle.
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Yeah, double R.
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Well, then there's obviously a great when you were
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miked up one time, you were giving me a lot of love on the
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sideline, a lot of red rifle
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comments.
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Uh, double r double R.
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I love it.
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Oh man. Did you have any any favorite
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travels this off season?
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Trying to think we uh, you know, being
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in in Carolina and being in Charlotte,
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We've we've done a couple of little weekend trips
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down to like Charleston are out
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to the mountains
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and highlands and cashiers and stuff
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like that. But then we didn't Yeah,
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then exactly, I knew nothing about that whole
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part of the country. Next thing, you know, we're living there and we're going
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to the mountains, we're going to the beach and uh jaj
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and I just did just get back from the
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Bahamas, so that was okay, that was a pretty good little trip.
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We go get get a little get a little little vacation
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in love love that part.
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Well, we're part of the Bahamash. We were
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in Nasau.
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Okay, did you did
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you do the little was that? Is that the one where they had
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the pigs the swimming.
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We did not do that.
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Okay, there's one of the zombers, but there's
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apparently one in a Nassau.
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Sure, what about you, you're the one
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that's all over the place.
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No, man, Look, I just uh I
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had to get surgery. So that's didn't bring my travel
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plans. But I did just come back from Liberia,
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you know, hit Ghana early on. Love
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Ghana so much I doubled back for second Africa
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trip. I think the next one.
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Uh me and me and Nikki are going to like
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try and dip into Japan.
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Yeah, I think I saw something. She something
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happened where they alls. Maybe
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mother in law couldn't couldn't come
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watch the kids, and so she had to stay back.
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And you know, I was like, man, I gotta go to Ghana by
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myself. Crazy. Over
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a thirteen years headed into fourteen
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years, it's been. I mean again, it's been. It's been
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a blessing. But is there a way you prepare
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or how does that change over the years where
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you know, when you started off at year
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one versus going into year fourteen, is
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that preparation changed for you at all?
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It definitely has, And I think you know, especially
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when you get into the season, you obviously
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have seen so much football, you
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know how certain teams are going to play
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you, so you can spend time on little
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details rather than the big picture of it
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all.
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And so.
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As you know, you get into your
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thirteen fourteen whatever it is, and you're
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not having to think as much. You're just able to react
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and play and know what's coming.
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And so.
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The preparation from an end season standpoint, and
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then offseason, you know, everybody's
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got the got their different way of doing things.
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But I feel like I've got a good routine of everything
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that I do.
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Having us here, let's just talk about it. I talked
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with Roman and Peanut Tillman earlier
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and they, you know, they challenged me on our draft class,
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and.
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You know, I was like, what did they challenge you with?
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I don't know. Our draft class is the greatest ever.
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I just I was like, it's the best, We're the best.
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Just look at the first round.
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Which which is crazy because we can bring up second,
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third, fourth, But it seems like every
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draft class is is sort of heavily
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regarded by their first class. Right, They're
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just like, all right, the first class. You look at the first round
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and you're gonna be like, all right, that's your draft class, which is crazy
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because there was guys like you. There was guys like justin
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Houston, there's Richard Sherman. But
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just look at the first round. I don't
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know, out of what thirty two pigs there
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had been, I'm looking at what fifteen
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Pro bowlers? It's crazy hard
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to miss.
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It's crazy hard to miss.
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The significant progress on how
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to draft the draft class?
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Yeah, what and Pro bowlers?
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And there there's gonna be arguably a
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lot of Hall of famers in that right too.
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That's what I'm just so.
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I mean again, I guess if you say best
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draft class ever, it's that's subjective. Everybody's
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got an opinion, but everybody, I mean, there's
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there's I think the numbers
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aren't gonna lie.
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On this one. That's what I'm saying. You should just trust
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trust the numbers. That happened. You know, there
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was Cam Newton number one. Uh,
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then we go Von Miller, Marcel Darius.
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Then it gets even better, aj Aj
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You guys came together. That's a hell of a draft class.
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You drafted Andy Dalton and AJ Green and
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put them together. So that's a great connection.
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Uh. Then from there you know Patrick Peterson,
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Julio Jones, Alden Smith, and
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then you know the quarterbacks of the first round. After
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that it was J Jake
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Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder and
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Okay, fine, uh but then you have Tyrone
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Smith, J. J. Watt, Nick
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Fairley. Nick Fairley was a dog for something, you
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know, Robert Quinn.
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There's a lot of hundred guys in this j Yeah,
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J. J.
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Watt, Robert Quinn, myself, Ryan
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Kerrigan stopped at like what nine nineties, ninety
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four and a half. I'm like, come on, just get two hundred. Finish
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it. But you know there was there's
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a tackle Nate Solder, what a couple of championships
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with ye with the Patriots. You
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know we had I know you weren't there.
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We had Prince of Mukamira.
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Yeah, come to the come to the Saint.
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I was not there, but I've been around Prince
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Prince the great guy.
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Great guy. But just talk about that first draft
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like there was, there was excellence, and then we're
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still in the top twenty. Then there was you know, me
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at twenty four, mark Ingram twenty eight, Mohammad
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Wilgerson that you know, was that twenty
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thirty and then Cam Hayward Pro Bowlers.
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Yeah, this provo is all over. That all
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over that drafts all.
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Over And then you talk about again, second, third, fourth
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round guys like you again justin Houston,
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Richard Sherman. There was guys that were just making
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names for themselves from our draft class. I'm I'm
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just going to continue and stay we're the best draft
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cleft to ever.
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In the amount of times that we talked about this when
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we were teammates a couple of years ago twenty
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eleven best draft class, Boom dam.
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I'm just gonna keep saying it. I'm hope that everybody
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hears me. So I'm just gonna do like
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if you if there was a hypothetical
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draft, do over right, give
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me your accomplishments and your performances. Do
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you slide into that first round? Where do you think you'd be selected?
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I mean I would think that
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I would be the second quarterback taken. I think
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Cam still goes number one overall. I
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mean just I mean, look what he was
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able to do and in his time and when
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he was at the height of his career, I mean, he
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was one of the most one of the more exciting players
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in the league for sure, And so I
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would assume that I would probably
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be the second quarterback taken.
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But you take Blaina, Blaine Gabbert or
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no Jake Locker at Tennessee.
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So but I'm not mad
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about what happened.
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Absolutely not.
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If I could go in the second round instead of the first round
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and have aj Green go in the first round and that be my
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guy all day, I'm
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taking where I went.
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Yeahere do you go like a seven thousand yard
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seasons in a row eight thousand something crazy
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something ridiculous crazy. You're
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out there just red rifling that thing, just wheeling
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and dealing. What
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do you think is the most significant
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change that's happened in this you
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know, games evolution from when
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you started, when we used to mall quarterbacks
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and I have to worry about, you know, the rules
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implied to where we are at now now
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we're all wearing Jimmy's at
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practice.
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Well, I
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think the style of play has also changed
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because it was a very
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much run first league when we first came in the
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league. And now
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obviously it's all about the past game, all about
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the quarterback, all about trying
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to score.
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Points and all that kind of stuff.
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And even that has changed because now you can throw over the middle
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and not get reprimanded.
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It's used to be able.
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To your rookieyear you threw over the middle, you
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had people coming down heel.
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It's I mean, the
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player safety stuff. It
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makes it hard on somebody that's
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playing defense. You know where
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you can hit the quarterback, where you can hit a receiver.
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Is it in the head, is it in the shoulder?
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Is it it's it's tough to be defender
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these days, it's it's hard to play. But I
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mean, I I understand the argument if we
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want to protect guys, but
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at the end of the day, how do you Your
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natural instincts are going to take over.
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And no doubt if I'm if I'm coming downhill,
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do you think I'm really thinking, No, you're not my
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head. Let's go across the bow it.
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I have to make sure that's going to come into this whole hip drop
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hip drop tackle things.
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I don't even know what I now. Yeah, until
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they made it a thing, and now it's.
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Like, I don't know.
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Are you're in the middle of making a tackle
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you're going to think I can't do that and let go.
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Don't let me swilve all my hips. In fact, let me
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let him go so he can gain more yards.
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Yeah, okay, I'm all for fifteen
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yards. Let's keep it. Let's keep it going.
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First down sucks for you can also
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move me on down the field. That
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hurts
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bro.
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Now that you're over at Carolina and you've you've gone
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through a few teams, uh one, do you
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have a favorite franchise. I'm gonna say this. I'm just gonna say,
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Okay, I'm not gonna let you answer that. And then two,
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you know when you when you went to Charlotte,
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you know, before they drafted Bryce Young, I was like, all right,
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he went from starter in New Orleans two starter
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Charlotte and then they drafted Bryce Young, and you
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know the reins were given. How is your relationship
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between you and him? You know, you were excellent
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for us and then became
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our starter and took over. Does
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that is that sort of you know, I guess it. You
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can't mirror Charlotte or what is what is the expectations?
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Then?
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Well, you know when I left New Orleans, I
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obviously got to start for it's
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fourteen games or something like that.
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Yeah, and uh, I felt like I played pretty
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well.
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And for me going into that that free
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agency that year, you know, there wasn't uh,
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there wasn't a ton of opportunity for me to go and to
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be the day one starter. I got to Carolina and knowing they
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had the first overall pick, you know what's going to
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happen there, regardless of how good I
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was playing in the off season and the OTAs
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and all that kind of stuff, And in training camp it's
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the number one overall pick.
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He's going to play, and so.
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I knew that going in, so it made it easier,
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like mentally going into it and saying, Okay,
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regardless of what you do, you still prove yourself.
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From day one, I walked in and said, like, you
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know, I'm going to show you what I can do. And
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you know, I felt good about what I
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was able to do this past year and just
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being on the team and to help Bryce and to
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help him grow. Obviously, it was a year
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of he had to handle a lot of adversity.
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There was a lot of things that were kind of stacked against him
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that he had to try to overcome and had
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to handle. And he's never had a season
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like that in his life, from
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high school to college, being in
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a Heisman Trophy winner and what he was able to do with
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Alabama to and then get into the league and have
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to handle that. But I
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think what we've been able to do this offseason and
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to try to bring in the right pieces and everything,
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I think we're trying to help set him up to have
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a more successful season than obviously we had
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last year.
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I'm not saying that's gonna be easy to do.
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But when we play Saints, it's
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two wins on the schedule for us.
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Yes, okay, was there a moment
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or throw or
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a game from last season that you can point to say
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that like Bryce is going to be okay and
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figure it out.
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There was a game we played
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against the Packers. We did not end up winning
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the game, but you
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could tell he kind of took over in
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the game and was like
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everything was flowing. He was he was
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playing on time, playing in rhythm, making
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big players, getting out of the pocket, finding
12:46
guys down the field, and it was a game like, okay,
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this is what this is like, shows
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what he can be if we kind of get everything
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around him built built the way it needs
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to. And so that was
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a game and even though like I wanted everything
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just to win that game, to felt like, okay, hey, you've
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got to feel that moment of you were feel
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like you're taking over the game and you found
13:07
a way to win. We obviously didn't win, but
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it was a game that felt like, Okay, this is definitely
13:12
something you can build.
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On, okay, right, and building
13:15
block, especially for a young quarterback, is key. Confidence
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is key. Not that you know it's.
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Year one, it's your year one, you
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know, but.
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As a number one overall pick, you know how bright that spotlight
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was.
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Yeah, No, for sure, and I think
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especially with the success of some of the other quarterbacks
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in that in that draft class too. Yeah
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CJ. I mean, he had an unbelievable year. But
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the best thing for you, as you know, is experience
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to be out there. If you're not. If you're not out
13:40
there, you're not getting that experience and you're not.
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That trial through fire is real because then then you
13:44
really figure out that mental spot too, like you
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figure out if you're a dog and that that's
13:48
like able to weather the storm or do you
13:50
sort of like tuck the tail, like I can't do this right?
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Like you could shine bright whenever you're having immediate
13:55
success, but are you still shining as brightly
13:58
like when you're not for sure in
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being in that role? Does does that change
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how you approach how you take care of your body at all,
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mentally and or physically, well.
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Physically, This is the best I've ever felt because
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you're not taking any hit. You know, I got one.
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I got one game this year and uh,
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you know, I felt the little sore and felt like I was
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part of it. Then after that my body
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was feeling great and the best I felt going
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into an off season. But I
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think it allows you time to focus on
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some other things too, you know, your body being
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one of them. You know, making sure I probably
14:31
spent more time in the weight room and training room and
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stuff, just because you, I mean, the
14:35
toll You're not having to to do all the extra
14:37
stuff that you know the starter has to do.
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And so yeah, I
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feel like I'm in I'm in a great place.
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Right now, okay, mentally
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meaning that I'm not ready to go whenever that that
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I figured.
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You say, you all walked in into the off season feeling
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the best you've ever felt. That probably bodes
14:53
well just in case your number is called.
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It is to you what my hill is now is
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tennis.
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Ye.
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Yes, I wasn't expecting.
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I mean I sort of I should have should have expected.
15:03
You should have you knew that that was going on.
15:05
JJ was getting your no no out
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there.
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Get my wife Nikki out there and starting to play.
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Now She's like, babe, what are we going to play? Yeah,
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we're not. I was like, my body hurts. Actually,
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I'm looking forward to pick a ball that's gonna be mine.
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Well, the good the good thing is tennis
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translates so well to playing quarterback with
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all the different movements that you do. And so
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I've been all in and uh, that's
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been my office game changer.
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How much longer do you want to play?
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How much longer do you want to play? Again?
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The conversations that we had in the conversation
15:38
sitting in the locker room waiting for this, Yeah,
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you know, I want to go as long as it keeps
15:43
making sense for me and my family and my body feels
15:45
great. I feel like, you know, I
15:48
can keep going. I think it'd be fun to
15:50
to touch forty years old.
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Wow, yeah, so
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you're you're my hero.
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We'll see thirty six right now,
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be thirty seven in October, so only
16:00
a couple more years. But we'll see if, as
16:03
you know, we get to this thing and we evaluate
16:06
after each season and see if we want
16:08
to keep going. But I'm
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still loving it. I still enjoy the game, still still
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love all the stuff that goes into it.
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And so and that's why we're
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here at there, we are at the broadcast
16:19
workshop. What are you looking forward to this week?
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I think there's so many different avenues
16:23
and different you know, realms of the media,
16:26
and we as players see
16:28
it from one side.
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Now you obviously different. You've got your.
16:30
Whole cool graphic up here with
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off the Yeah yeah, this.
16:36
Off the Edge podcast and
16:38
and all the different things. But you get to see the
16:40
different side of the media and and kind
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of get to experience all the different
16:45
things rather be from calling a game to doing podcasts,
16:47
to being in studio and all the all the different
16:50
things. So I'm just here to learn from
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the people that are going to be presenting
16:54
to us, kind of get some
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of their knowledge and and hopefully, you
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know, see what if this is something that
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I want to pursue moving
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forward, And you know, I think it's it's
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definitely a great opportunity that
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the NFL puts this thing
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on that we get a chance to come learn from
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the everybody here and involved.
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See if you want to pursue. So you see yourself in the space,
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like how active do you see? Are you going to like
17:19
Pat McAfee, like build out your own studio
17:21
in Charlotte and just make the media come to you,
17:23
or are you going to you know, do like you know these these
17:25
quarterbacks do and have the deal done years
17:28
in advance and then just.
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Go hey, we'll see I'm here.
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So that's step one, right, right.
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Step. Step one is showing up. Ye can't
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can't, can't get a blessing if without ever
17:38
stepping into the church. You know, So I understand,
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gotta gotta step in and see what makes the most sense.
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I look forward to that just because, like people
17:47
don't know how fun you are. You know what I'm saying, Like I feel
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like they know any Dalton
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the quarterback.
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I always have our lit I was talking out
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here and with
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one of these guys, I'm saying, I feel like
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I've been very vanilla in my interviews,
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you.
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Know how a lot of people do.
18:02
It's like you ask the question and
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I'm going to answer, and I'm not going to answer your question,
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but I'm just going to say what I want to say and
18:10
kind of move on from there. And so this
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is a good opportunity to kind of get to show a little bit of personality.
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Let the red hair flair.
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The hair is flowing, all
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right.
18:21
Final question. Whenever they
18:24
talk about quarterbacks, right, they talk
18:26
about they may never talk about like the throw
18:28
percentage. They never talk about like, hey, these are the
18:30
wife shoes day through in his career, they
18:32
talk about winning. At this point, should
18:34
winning be a part of a quarterback stat.
18:37
I mean, I think it should because at the end of the day, it's
18:39
all about winning. The business
18:41
is, you know, that's what it's all about.
18:44
Now.
18:45
Winning can look a lot different based
18:48
off of what team you're on, who you have
18:50
around you, and all that kind of stuff. Losses
18:53
can look a lot different based off who
18:56
you know, what team you're on, who you have around
18:59
you, all that nobody cares about.
19:00
Like how you didn't have any receivers or throw to,
19:03
you know, like for
19:05
whatever it is, quarterbacks get judged quickly
19:07
and like, oh they won two games
19:09
last year, three games last year, ten games
19:12
last year. They get judge asap
19:14
just off of you know, whatever whatever was given.
19:16
To I mean, I think the
19:18
people that really know, we're going to go and look and see,
19:21
Okay, well why right, you know, like
19:23
the average fan doesn't care about your average fan
19:26
is going on online
19:28
and looking at stats.
19:29
Looking looking up the fantasy
19:31
points that they.
19:32
See the fantasy points and all that kind of stuff.
19:34
And but I
19:37
think that's what makes guys
19:40
special. People are just gonna talk
19:42
about Tom because of what he was able
19:44
to do win seven Super Bowls, playing
19:46
ten, Like for
19:49
a while there it was our whole career he
19:51
was playing in the super Bowl, like every year
19:53
he was in super Bowl, super Bowl, super Bowl and
19:57
shooting what Patrick's been able to do at the start
19:59
of his career.
20:00
I mean it's like, what.
20:01
Has been four out of seven super Bowls the
20:04
seven years you've been here, four of them?
20:05
Like, yeah, it's one, so don't
20:09
we all?
20:10
But you know, I think that's what
20:12
makes the good ones great now
20:14
you can you know, again,
20:17
based off your team, there's been some quarterbacks that have
20:19
made it to the super Bowl
20:21
and haven't maybe not
20:23
the one. Some have won super Bowls that they
20:26
weren't the ones that.
20:27
Was definitely worth the driving driving force. You'd say
20:29
the team one.
20:30
The team ones. Yeah, but uh,
20:33
at the end of the day, that's what you're measured by. So that's all
20:35
it matters.
20:36
I appreciate That's all the questions I have for you. I appreciate
20:39
you for tapping in at the show man. I know you're
20:41
here badcasts, but even saying yes to getting
20:43
you on the pod, I'm super excited for you
20:45
this week. I hope you do join media
20:47
whatever capacity that you see fit. Thank
20:50
you to the listeners. Thank you guys for
20:52
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Off the Edge with my guy Andy Dalton.
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God have a blessed one, Peace,
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