0:04

Appreciate y'all for tapping it off the edge with

0:06

me your host camp Jordan. I'm sitting

0:08

here just truly blessed to sit next to

0:10

a Philadelphia legend, an Eagles legend,

0:13

if you will.

0:13

You know, he's technically a Michigan legend.

0:15

Alum go Blue, my

0:17

and my guy beg Brandon Graham.

0:21

Draft class was year before me, twenty

0:23

ten. Man's heading the year fifteen. I

0:25

don't even know, like the beginnings of my

0:27

wildest dreams this year fifteen.

0:29

I just told you this. I'm like, man, you're headed

0:31

there.

0:31

You know, congratulations on just signing that

0:33

that one year extendo with with with Philadelphia

0:36

Eagles. Uh, you know, we met

0:38

just to preface all of it. We met two

0:40

thousand and eleven.

0:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was we

0:44

was out at the fight.

0:46

Yeah no, no, shoot, oh no, I

0:49

am yeah, no, no, it was it was.

0:50

It was. It was.

0:52

It was your big blue guy from from

0:54

Pittsburgh Steelers. Uh fot

0:57

foot or no, no, Lamar Willie

0:59

Lamar wid big yeah, big Woodley.

1:01

He had had a camp out and sagging off, big

1:04

sag nasty Michigan

1:07

met you out there and then you know, just

1:10

just learned of your greatness. Man, because fifteen

1:12

years in now your Super Bowl champ with Philadelphia Eagles,

1:14

been to another Super Bowl.

1:16

How does it feel going into year fifteen?

1:19

You know what going into year fifteen, especially

1:21

how we've been practicing all that stuff, it's not

1:23

as bad because I've been trying to take care

1:25

of myself. But you know, of course,

1:28

injuries happened for me a year thirteen

1:31

toward my achilles, came back off,

1:34

rehabbed all the way and man ended

1:36

up, you know, playing at a high level when

1:38

I came back. But it was just I think it's just

1:40

more of me taking care of myself, man, taking care

1:42

of my body. The way we practice, it's

1:44

not like old school days when I first came in,

1:46

because Man, I definitely would have made it to fifteen

1:49

because you had the pre

1:51

pre Yeah, this PREBA before the lockout,

1:53

which means you was in double day time, double day

1:56

real double day practice in the morning.

2:00

Man, get you a little napping and then you gotta

2:02

come on back. Yeah. That's the one where you guys

2:04

really losing weight, like now you have

2:06

to fight to lose weight in camp. Yeah, and

2:08

then camp's hit different. Tell

2:11

me why Jalen Hurts was the first person you called after

2:13

you signed your extension.

2:14

Oh, man, because me and Jaylen, you know, over the

2:16

years uh that he's been here, we've just been

2:18

building.

2:19

Uh.

2:19

We actually stay around the corner from each other and nine.

2:21

So it's been it's been cool. Just on how

2:23

that relationship evolved. I feel like it's

2:25

way more than you know, just football

2:28

with us.

2:28

Uh.

2:29

And that's what I try to make it, man, because

2:31

sometimes you know how it is. It's like it could be a work

2:33

relationship with a lot of people, and you

2:35

know when they leave and go home and doing what they

2:37

do.

2:38

I know that.

2:39

For me, I try to keep in contact, try to

2:41

check on people, especially if I know they ain't playing no more,

2:44

trying to get insight on you know what

2:46

you what, some some of those feelings you're going through.

2:48

Uh, just so that I can be as prepared

2:50

as I can be when that time comes.

2:52

But a lot of guys say they just need

2:55

that purpose for after. And so that's why I always

2:57

tried to make sure I did things like

2:59

the Brew camp and uh, you

3:01

know business combine with Caleb Thornhill,

3:04

we just did that. I do a lot of

3:06

just off off season stuff. You know, while I

3:09

got the shield on, when I could get into these

3:11

rooms.

3:11

The business boot camp. Yeah yeah,

3:14

you know a business man. I'm a business man.

3:17

And you're trying to trying to be all all

3:19

Jackson, I mean Jackson all trade.

3:21

Yeah yeah, I gotta dude it. Look, gotta

3:23

do that. Stick your hand into the hat. See what

3:25

you pull. See if you like it, if I put it

3:27

back, because you know, while we're playing NFL, NFL

3:29

gonna use the hell out of us. So let's figure out what we

3:31

can get from them to one hundred percent. Man,

3:34

why is it so important for you to commit to play

3:36

your entire career with Philadelphia Eagles.

3:39

Well, it just became that once

3:41

I won the Super Bowl the way we wanted,

3:44

you know, uh, with the strip, and it

3:46

just it just boosted me even more.

3:48

And then I started.

3:49

Of course, you got to play at a at a high

3:51

level where they still believe in you. And I know for me,

3:53

it was more about just serving the guys too,

3:56

because that's why I feel like I'm still here because

3:58

we lost Kelsey, we lost Fletcher

4:01

Cocks, and I know that they

4:03

just don't want to lose everybody, you

4:05

know, just everybody just you know, how you gotta

4:07

get go to rehab and you're trying to wing off

4:10

certain people being you know, it's

4:12

like the same thing. It's like he don't they ain't want

4:14

to just cold turkey drop everybody.

4:16

And of course if I didn't play good last year,

4:18

I wouldn't have probably been with a coach

4:20

just being real like, this is a production league, and so

4:23

how we talked and just

4:26

serving the guys man trying to help them get to the

4:28

next level on just working hard,

4:30

taking practice series.

4:31

You know how it is. You gotta you call it by

4:33

the first name, mean Howie. You know what said

4:36

that it up.

4:37

Not a lot of you know, not a lot of lot

4:39

of not a lot of people able to just go up top and be

4:41

like, hey, this is on my plate, this was on

4:43

your plate.

4:44

Let's keep it a buck because this league, like you said,

4:46

is a business.

4:47

Business, you know, and if you hadn't they were a production

4:49

They're gonna tell you a hundred reasons why

4:51

you can't make the money that you want to make or

4:54

whatever it is, or they gonna try to incentivize

4:56

your contract for whatever it is.

4:57

But you can go up and talk and

4:59

you talk Hey, this is how long.

5:00

I want to play. Yep, this is what I want to do.

5:02

What you got, that's it and that's

5:05

what it was. And that's what I can respect because

5:07

he want to keep all his draft picks. Uh,

5:09

you know if that if he can, And so

5:11

what I tell young boys now, it's like, man,

5:13

make it work because or if they close,

5:16

make it work with the team that drafts you, because you be

5:18

the first to go when you get that big contract elsewhere,

5:21

no doubt what I'm saying.

5:21

I'm not gonna lie.

5:22

But boys, boys leave and I'm like, hey, bro, sometimes

5:25

the grass isn't always greener. Just

5:27

because they dangle that t bone in front of you,

5:29

you may not get to the real part. You know what I'm

5:31

saying. You may not see that they're gonna

5:33

they're gonna throw that big that big contract at you.

5:35

But how much of it are you gonna see? When

5:37

you get drafted. They expect

5:40

you to see it all and they're gonna help me.

5:42

Sometimes the guys fall, you know, the production

5:44

is what it is, and yet their team still once

5:47

wan's well for them.

5:48

Yeah. So you know that's the thing.

5:50

Like that's where I try to, you

5:52

know, talk to some of them. I know you trying to get

5:55

to the bag. But like you say, if you go on in the forty nine

5:57

ers, it's like, man, you know how much tax

5:59

out there. You ain't gonna see all that. That's a big number.

6:01

That's just gonna help them, you know what I'm saying.

6:03

At the end of the day.

6:05

I mean, you're gonna hopefully you save all your money

6:07

because it's life changing for sure. But you got

6:09

to know that you're paying taxes in all these

6:11

different states, and I want eight of them at least be

6:14

in you know, a great state

6:16

like Tennessee. You got Florida, I

6:18

mean Texas, Philly, Texas,

6:20

you know, stuff like that. But I

6:22

know, for me, I'm glad

6:24

that I did, you know, stick it out to try to work

6:26

it out with the team, especially after I

6:28

won that Super Bowl, because it was

6:30

a moment before we even got

6:33

there where I want to make an emotional decision

6:35

and better on myself because of how how

6:37

my career was going with them. You know, you feel

6:39

like you're being played with a little bit. But you

6:42

know it's just like I'm glad that my wife

6:45

helped me in that, Like, you know, be logical. Ones

6:48

us, just you know, just set me down because

6:50

I really wanted I had to go with

6:52

the security. Yeah, for my family, and

6:54

at the time Chip Kelly was there, they

6:56

just wasn't offering what I thought was fair.

6:59

But it's all are good, like you know, I

7:01

mean, I learned a lot in that situation. But

7:04

man, I'm telling you, man, Cam, I'll be

7:06

chanting thirty young boys now, doubt

7:08

take care of yourself. Take care of your body,

7:11

man, and and pass it on to

7:13

don't you know like you we all need

7:15

each other to get to where we're going. If I got some info,

7:17

that's gonna help you, you know when your time

7:19

come.

7:20

Just no, I'm gonna help you best I can't.

7:22

Hey whatever, IFO I got less less, pass

7:24

it and pass it on because at the end of the day,

7:27

man, like you said, it's the

7:29

organization. They gonna take care of me

7:31

because they're gonna be here.

7:32

Like they're here or now.

7:33

For a lot of people that I looked up to, like

7:36

a JP and them boys, they retired

7:38

gone and you know they own to

7:40

the New Patch, right, you better do all

7:42

you can for your family while you're there.

7:43

Absolutely, Bro, you talked about you know, playing against playing

7:46

with Jason Kelce and Fletcher Cox and them

7:49

not being part of the franchise no more, whether

7:51

they're retired or whatever that is. But

7:53

how special was it to have such a core group

7:56

for.

7:56

Ten plus years? You got Lane Johnson,

8:00

Yeah.

8:00

Jason Kelce, you

8:02

Fletch Like, that's a strong core. Everybody

8:05

knows like your locker room carries a lot.

8:07

And we had the same core able to build

8:09

and and and create a culture. How

8:12

was it building that culture with those guys to where

8:14

where is it?

8:15

Where will it go?

8:16

I think it was great because

8:18

people had people in different rooms.

8:21

Uh, you know, you got Kelsey. Then

8:23

at the time we did have We stole Malcolm

8:25

from y'all. So Malcolm was in there for

8:27

a minute.

8:27

And it was ball. You know

8:30

what I'm saying.

8:30

I know, And so you

8:32

know, having those guys in different rooms. That's why

8:34

I was saying the year we won Super Bowl that

8:37

we had guys like blunting and running back

8:39

room. We had Malcolm

8:41

Jenkins who had them boys together, Corey

8:43

Graham you know at the time. Uh,

8:46

he was a big mentor to a lot of the guys.

8:48

Then you got in our room me and Fletched.

8:50

Uh.

8:50

Then the linebackers.

8:51

We had Nigel uh

8:53

you know he was he was really you know, taking

8:56

over at the time. Jordan Hicks he was hurt,

8:58

but he kept you know, lead at

9:00

that time. And man, it was it was special.

9:02

I mean then Kelsey was making his

9:05

name as he was going.

9:06

It's even shout out to my dog. Mike Kendricks by the way,

9:09

Yeah, Mike Kendrick. Yeah, Mike Kendrick, you

9:11

know, you know what. And Mike

9:13

was too like Mike. Of course, with

9:16

Mike, you got to just make sure you

9:18

keep him right at the end of the day. And

9:20

so nib made show, made

9:23

show.

9:23

It just worked. It just worked out, man. And

9:26

Mike.

9:26

Uh Man, that's funny you said that, because

9:29

I seen Mike we did a sign and they

9:31

did like a chap the championship team we had

9:33

did a signing together and got to see

9:35

him looking good, had a big old blue little

9:38

jacket on. He's looking smooth like he always

9:40

do. But man, it was it

9:44

was people in every room and that helped be

9:46

able to echo the car. So now with them gone,

9:49

I got to see who the next man is. Who gonna

9:51

be the next one that's gonna bet them. I don't

9:53

want you to be Kelsey. I just hope that

9:55

you learn what you could from him every

9:57

day. Uh, when you've seen him in that room,

10:00

now you know what it takes. And you've seen on the field

10:02

what you gotta do off the field the film

10:05

you gotta watch the film. You gotta talk about

10:07

with your coach and stuff like that. Because if you're gonna

10:09

be the quarterback of the you know or the line,

10:12

I mean, I gotta be able to kelsel smart like

10:14

I mean, you know, you got to be able to make them calls and

10:16

be able to know who bluffing

10:18

who ain't. You know, you ain't

10:20

gonna always get it right, but you gotta make sure you

10:22

keep everybody together, because I mean

10:24

we we go as the center go, absolutely

10:27

go as that as them calls.

10:28

For sure.

10:29

Man, if we ain't on the same page, you know, bombs

10:32

over a bag dad for us, we can't get

10:34

there.

10:34

We never can get there. dB at

10:36

the ball out quick take it take two,

10:38

It take too. It takes me.

10:40

It takes it takes Marshaun Lottimore. It I

10:42

need you like you need me. Let's work together.

10:44

Let's work together. But they gotta believe in that

10:46

dream too.

10:47

Absolutely you know I think, yeah, man, it's

10:49

uh, it's gonna be tough because

10:51

it's gonna be new territory.

10:53

But we're gonna make our every year. Everybody

10:55

that team was that team. What we gonna

10:58

be.

10:58

And I ain't worried about what we did

11:00

last year is what we're gonna do this year because I

11:03

know we should feel a little

11:05

sting from what we did last year. So right, let's

11:08

let's go out there day. You you know what it took

11:10

to do that. We work hard every day

11:12

and you know, we gotta make sure that we that we

11:14

stay on the same page, because it just wasn't on the same

11:17

page like we like it should have been, knowing

11:19

what we know for sure. I

11:21

mean, you know we should have been seeing each

11:24

other too. Man, Just I know, I ain't

11:26

gonna bring it up. I know you had to talk about that.

11:28

Man.

11:28

Look, look, I was cool with y'all winning that year because

11:31

it had Minnesota. One wouldn't

11:34

like that would have been the sting in my life, you know, like

11:36

Minnesota miracle derailed us.

11:39

Y'all with Nick Foles.

11:40

I said, they get Nick Foles, and

11:42

next thing you know, Nick Foles is out there destroying

11:45

the skull Cloud and I said okay.

11:47

I said, okay, Lord man, at least sy we

11:49

didn't want to see y'all. I ain't gonna lie. I mean

11:51

just for me personally.

11:52

We wanted to see y'all because I think we had played

11:54

earlier that year, and I was like, I was like, yeah, we

11:57

like, we like this match. We had already

11:59

picked out, like you know. Champagne was like

12:01

like hey, was like, after we get done with him, we got Philly. I said,

12:03

no, I hate anytime a coach like,

12:05

for for shadows, what's

12:07

gonna happen.

12:08

I'm like, I got nervous.

12:09

I'd be like, d don't say that, don't do it,

12:11

don't do it. Everybody know that already.

12:13

We just gotta get there. Yeah, we just gotta get there.

12:15

We gotta get there. Then

12:18

you end up with.

12:18

The strip sack, and you know, shripsacks seal

12:21

the super Bowl and the legend continues.

12:23

You know, like if you if you just

12:25

think about that that strip sack, right Tom

12:28

Brady's Super Bowl fifty two, that

12:30

changed the trajectory of your

12:33

legacy with the Philadelphia Eagles.

12:35

Yeah, like that that led

12:37

you into a moment that's

12:40

gonna be iconic forever. When they think Philly super

12:42

Bowl, they're gonna be like Brandon Graham ship sack.

12:44

Yeah.

12:45

No, it's it's something special,

12:47

man, that I don't take for granted. You know, I

12:49

really look back and be like,

12:51

Man, I was really mad at

12:53

Philly for a minute because it was just Earl

12:56

Thomas this we could have got this guy

12:58

and all that, and I was about to leave.

13:00

Because of that, you know, and they're

13:02

gonna leave. You're gonna leave.

13:03

Because because it was so much like I told

13:06

you, it was tough in the beginning of like making

13:08

that emotional decision because I didn't feel I was

13:10

being treated right. It was more with the

13:12

fans and stuff like that, because I mean I

13:14

would have good good some I

13:16

was playing okay, but then Earl

13:19

Thomas, that's Earl Thomas was playing,

13:21

you know, at a high level, and we went I

13:23

went right after what I think he

13:25

went after me. He had fourteen We

13:28

had a chance to get him. That's why they thought we traded

13:30

up, because Brian Dawkins just left

13:32

all that stuff. And then Pierre Paul got right

13:35

him too.

13:36

You know, he was bawling.

13:37

He ended up winning Super Bowl that next year

13:39

or at eleven and so I had to hear that man

13:41

for so many years and I ain't really like

13:44

being there at first. And then when we won

13:46

that super Bowl, for that moment, you

13:48

know, it was like wow, everything changed,

13:51

and like you said, things

13:53

changed where I can go up to how we and be like, so, what's

13:55

going on?

13:56

That's why you built that confidence. And absolutely

13:58

we finally got us one.

14:00

And I mean, yeah,

14:02

you still got to play at a high level, but I

14:04

think for me that's when things changed.

14:06

And I was happy that I stuck in there, man, because

14:09

I.

14:09

Mean, you know how hard it is to get I

14:11

mean, you you living it right now, right.

14:13

You know we're gonna compete. We

14:15

got a good team coming back to but Joah boys gonna

14:18

be tough too.

14:18

You know what I'm saying, Like needed hungry.

14:21

Hungry is the word for all these wins.

14:23

Bro Ye.

14:34

If you look back at your rookie self with

14:36

everything that you know now, with that change

14:38

anything for you, because you talked about your trials

14:40

and tribulation with JPP going after you, You talk

14:42

about you know, everybody

14:44

sort of wanting you know, earl from your

14:46

draft class, and then you know, for to where

14:48

you are now you're the legacy guy.

14:50

You know, Jpps retired. Earl

14:53

has been retired for a couple of years. I don't

14:56

know if he's come out and said it, but that just is what

14:58

it is. What would you tell you,

15:00

your younger self, your rookie

15:02

year.

15:02

I would say to not worry

15:05

about nobody else. At

15:07

that time, you know, I felt like, even

15:09

when I got hurt, I remember saying, man,

15:11

them boys don't even get it. They out

15:14

here getting days off and

15:16

I'm over here working, were working. I was

15:18

a lot, you know. I don't know why I was, you

15:21

know, just looking at that, I just felt like we like,

15:23

as a rookie, I just had all this

15:25

pressure on me. And then I had Watchburn too.

15:27

Watchburn was a tough coach boy, and

15:30

I just, you know, nothing could nothing.

15:32

I did. What I felt like was

15:34

making them, you know, happy at all,

15:36

and I'm eating and yet he still looking at

15:38

me like I'm yeah.

15:39

Taking care of these you know, the older

15:41

guys at the time, and then just giving me the crumbs

15:44

was just so much. So I was just like,

15:46

man, I want to break too, just like them boys.

15:48

And then I got a long break. I tore my knee

15:50

and I was like at that point, I

15:53

was like, man, I ain't gonna worry about nobody else

15:55

because I ended up going through a lot

15:57

of stuff during that time when I was coming back from injury,

15:59

and that's when Earl Thomas and all that.

16:01

We could have had this guy and we got this this

16:03

dude.

16:03

And I would say, I

16:06

love the perseverance I had because

16:08

it was tough.

16:10

But I had some guys like JP at

16:13

the time, Trent.

16:14

Cole, them boys man to be able to help

16:16

me in a dark

16:18

time that I didn't know was dark until I got out

16:20

of it because I was still

16:22

smiling, being me and all that little stuff.

16:24

But I ain't go out nowhere, I ain't do nothing

16:26

as much.

16:27

You were affected. But yeah it was fiction.

16:30

Yeah it wasn't nothing like that. Yeah, it was just more

16:32

like NN, like you can still

16:34

go out, still have fun, enjoy yourself.

16:37

I was even not even talking with

16:39

family, you know that type of like I was just

16:41

in the house most of the time. So if

16:44

I could talk to myself, like I said, it's not worry

16:46

about nothing else. Everything got

16:48

a season, you know, even when you're going through your worst

16:51

times, it's only for a season. And then it's

16:53

gonna switch up. It might not switch up all

16:55

the way up here, but it's gonna switch.

16:57

Up, you know. But

17:00

you know it was a grime. Man.

17:01

You gotta stay with it, gotta how bad do you want

17:03

it? You gotta talk to yourself in a positive.

17:05

How bad do you want it? As you want?

17:07

But don't don't don't sell me the

17:09

dream, tell me the vision. Tell me, like,

17:11

I need to see what our plan is and how we gonna

17:13

get it. Like when you when

17:15

you figure out your way and you figure out your plan and

17:17

you said, like how I'm going to dominate the day. That's

17:20

when them days start stacking and that's when you see real

17:22

significant change. But tell me about you

17:24

know you talked about how you almost left

17:27

Philly. Do you think you know into

17:29

the giants.

17:29

At that right?

17:30

Like what what came down in

17:32

twenty fifteen when you were thinking about leaving

17:34

versus staying versus giants, which

17:37

staying in the in division is crazy work

17:39

to me to stay in the division, Like that's low

17:41

key arrival, Yeah, like you know, like

17:43

clearly.

17:43

Its giants cowboys, but

17:46

it's also really in that thing

17:48

too, like y'all, y'all in a little three way

17:50

triangle. It's always, I mean, and then

17:52

the Redskins every now and then. I don't like nobody,

17:55

No I like I like you telling

17:57

me.

17:57

You tell me some of the coaches

18:00

that they got, like a Darryl Tapp who you

18:02

know, I played with Noah's energy like he

18:04

got his first little spot as a D line

18:06

coach.

18:06

I mean, they got a good staff. I will say absolutely.

18:09

You know how it is having a staff. I

18:11

mean, if you got you a solid staff, you you're

18:13

gonna be all right.

18:13

You usually have your main rival.

18:15

But then and then somewhere in your division, somebody else

18:17

just pops a head up every couple of years, like we rivals.

18:19

But but the three we've been a three headed yeah

18:22

after for a minute, but yeah,

18:24

man, I think just for

18:26

me in that moment, it was because

18:28

I was just feeling a certain way about the

18:30

fans, and y'all want me, all right, Beta

18:33

leave, I'm.

18:34

Gonna leave, and I'm gonna say, y'all, I'm gonna

18:36

come and see y'all twice a year.

18:37

I'm gonna show y'all, y'all sing the petty factor.

18:39

I do love a good petty factor.

18:40

That's why I said they was offering a one year

18:42

at the time, and then Philly was offering me

18:45

that four year deal. I ended up signing it anyway, So

18:47

I went with the security because I have my family. So

18:49

that's what you mean by security. Yeah, that's one verse four.

18:52

Yeah.

18:52

And so at the time, it was baby

18:54

girl, you know, and I was just like, uh,

18:57

you know, wife, he just talks some sense into

19:00

me at that time, and it just

19:02

was it was it was cool because

19:05

I gotta go.

19:05

With the security. I went with the security.

19:07

I probably seen Chip one more

19:09

year after that, and then we ended up getting a Doug

19:12

played through that first year with Doug.

19:13

Second year we went Super Bowl, right, you know,

19:16

and pan out.

19:16

Well, it never would have like happened

19:19

if I's It just showed me that much

19:21

more on how much life is full of choices

19:23

and you gotta make sure, you know, you exhaust

19:25

everything that you can.

19:26

Because me and wife we had to talk.

19:27

We had a little real long talk about

19:29

it because it got serious for a minute because my

19:32

agent like, hey, what we're gonna do, because you

19:34

know, they it's only gonna last for a minute.

19:36

It's right gonna be on the table. And I

19:39

was just like, you know, what. Let me talk with wife

19:41

a little bit and we said, we talked and it

19:44

was like, yeah, you started to hear, but at

19:47

the end of the day, if you're not feeling good,

19:49

you on how to.

19:50

But I don't want you to do it for that reason.

19:52

And just like you know what, she

19:55

was just like, you know, if if you offering you four

19:57

years, you obviously doing something you know where they

20:00

want to They want to keep you. So let's

20:02

just go with that and let's see see what happens.

20:04

But I know for me, it

20:07

was like, all right, well bet that's what still

20:10

kind of I got this chip on my shoulder now because

20:12

it's still the same. It's like y'all wanted to get

20:14

rid of me for real, like you know, or the fans.

20:16

That's how it was. But then I came back and

20:18

I persevered.

20:19

Everybody knows about them Philly fans, thin't man.

20:22

Many they're the best when y'all when

20:24

y'all winning. They the worst when y'all

20:26

when y'all doing anything.

20:27

But oh yeah, wifey,

20:30

wife, he talks some good senses to me, and it became

20:32

that I want to just have that, just want

20:34

to prove them wrong. And you know, I'm

20:36

like, they're gonna eat them words. That's just I used

20:38

to carry with me all the time. Man, and

20:40

man, when it happened three years later,

20:43

it was like wow, like you know, just the

20:45

power to tongue on top of you

20:48

know, just making it to exist, making sure you're

20:50

putting that, putting that that that plan

20:52

in place of that belief. All right, man,

20:54

it ain't gonna be It's gonna be hard to get to

20:57

do what you want to do. You got to do it one day

20:59

at a time, and this you gotta do right now. So

21:02

I feel like, man, thank you. I shout out

21:04

to my wife because she definitely

21:06

talked some sense to me. And then of

21:08

course my mom because her work ethic I've

21:11

seen every day.

21:11

Yeah, to help me in those moments

21:14

when I wanted to give up, definitely

21:17

for sure. And the.

21:20

Moms have dropped some gyms that you ain't really trying

21:22

to hear, but yeah you needed to hear.

21:23

Yeah.

21:24

Well what do you what are you looking back at your your

21:26

fourteen years completed? What would you say is

21:28

your proudest moment of your NFL career?

21:31

I mean, with it not being done, I mean I'm loving

21:34

the role I have right now. Like

21:36

I told you, I'll be serving the guys. But if I had

21:38

to, if I had to say, it

21:41

was that year we want super Bowl. I mean that was everything.

21:43

Man.

21:43

That was the first team I was ever

21:45

on where I was like, man, we.

21:47

We was together. I missed them boys.

21:49

You know what I'm saying.

21:50

Yeah, that that energy, the jokes.

21:53

I mean when you got jokesters on your team. Man,

21:55

you know, we laughing every day. I

21:58

wish I had more video of our We

22:00

used to go out to eat every Thursday. As

22:02

a defense, sometimes it's the it's

22:04

the offense in there when it's supposed to be a defensive

22:06

thing. That's just let let that let you know

22:08

a lot right there when the other guys hanging

22:11

offense defense and they be like, man, come on, come

22:13

come to our defensive thing. One person

22:16

pay for it, Like I mean, like me a vet

22:18

right now, I pay.

22:19

For the whole meal.

22:20

And then we all switch every week

22:22

the guys that could that could do it. And so it

22:25

was just that last meal. Man, when we

22:28

was about to play the Patriots, it

22:30

was.

22:31

Everybody and that thing.

22:32

It felt like, and I mean I

22:34

can remember I can see Mirragos laughing

22:37

Chris Miragos.

22:37

He was a joster. He was funny.

22:39

I mean, man, you got blunt them boys

22:42

that came in because you

22:44

know, DB's messing with the running backs and stuff,

22:47

and it's.

22:47

Just yeah, it was, man, it was a chemistry.

22:51

Every year.

22:51

Every year the locker rooms changed change, but

22:54

like personalities changed with the two. Some

22:56

years you're closer than others. But them years

22:58

that you're close, you're like, like we're

23:00

rinning. We're like you can feel the difference in

23:02

the winning. You're like, bro, we're winning because

23:04

of us, Like.

23:05

Because look at the dance and we're doing every

23:08

touchdown and y'all, boys, we got we

23:10

got coordinated stuff that y'all believe is gonna

23:12

happen for real, you know.

23:14

And so I mean, man, it just

23:16

worked out that way.

23:17

So even the year we won

23:19

the Super Bowl, I mean lost the Super Bowl, that

23:21

was a close team too, and it sucked because

23:24

we Man, that would have been my best team

23:26

because I felt that vibe too, and we made

23:28

it and it just was we felt

23:30

we was man, it was it was so good.

23:32

But mahons man, he.

23:35

Is the right. We got

23:37

a slater king. Man, we gonna have to if

23:40

we want to get there. So uh but

23:42

yeah, man, this that moment

23:45

we want. That year we won super Bowl was a special

23:47

year for me. So but

23:49

I'm not done yet because this could be the this could be

23:51

the this could be this year.

23:54

Sixteen.

23:55

But but what year is this? This I'm coming up

23:57

on fourteen? You Enton, you enticeon

24:00

was you know, class

24:02

twenty ten? And then I was I was one

24:04

year after?

24:04

Man, like.

24:07

I need that this year. Look you've had, You've had your

24:09

shots at I need. I need at least one shot at

24:11

it.

24:11

Yeah, I got.

24:12

But as you know, as we're sitting here a broadcast

24:14

workshop week, you know, NFL puts

24:17

on the broad chat broadcast workshop. What is

24:19

it that you're looking forward to and what do you look to

24:21

gain from it? As well as do you see yourself?

24:23

Well, you know what just leather of that. What are you looking forward to this week?

24:26

I'm looking forward to just seeing

24:28

myself being put to put to the test

24:30

on some stuff that I'm familiar

24:32

with. But now it's about to get real,

24:35

Like you know, calling a game, it's like, whow

24:38

you.

24:38

Ever done that yet? Getting my getting my

24:40

heart beating a little fast, talk about it. Now it's

24:42

like call a game.

24:44

Okay, let me see, I'm gonna be as

24:46

animated as I can be. But yeah,

24:48

man, what I'm trying to get out of it is just the

24:51

challenge of you know, doing some stuff

24:53

up, getting uncomfortable with some stuff right, and

24:55

trying to get comfortable in the space where I think

24:57

I can thrive, you know, if I really you

24:59

know, work at it.

25:00

Like how the attitude that we have.

25:02

Man, it's like, you know, I know it's gonna

25:04

be uncomfortable, but you can do it.

25:06

You know.

25:07

I tell people all the time, it's one day at a time, and

25:10

don't look too far ahead on what.

25:11

You already don't know. You got to find

25:13

out. Be here, be in the moment.

25:15

And I just want to I just really want to learn

25:17

honestly this week and exhaust

25:20

everything. That's what I'm doing this year, Exhausting

25:22

everything that I can see, put

25:24

myself to the test and

25:27

help people along the way, okay, and be

25:31

able to be able to help other people

25:33

that's on their way out. It's like, man, it's it

25:35

ain't as bad as you might think or what

25:38

you're going through. If you setting yourself up

25:40

now, man of servitude, you know, yeah,

25:42

that's just trying to have that that

25:45

feeling man of serving and being

25:47

able to get more experience and stuff that I never

25:49

really got a chance to because.

25:50

I made excuse in the off season on training.

25:52

I'm doing this, but nah, it's like, all

25:55

right, it's getting real, b Like

25:58

what you really want to do?

25:59

All right?

26:00

Come on, you got some stuff that second office

26:02

to you. But it's come on, do you really

26:04

want to do that?

26:04

Do you love that? Right? And so that's why I'm

26:07

doing this right.

26:07

Now to to see

26:10

if I'm gonna love you know, just coming to

26:12

work every day?

26:12

Why no?

26:13

All right, let's let's check out this this uh, this

26:15

segment called quick hitters. I got three quick

26:18

questions for you to wrap this up. I just want to

26:20

know you've been in the Philly for almost fifteen years. You

26:22

say you moved there now full time? H

26:24

What Philly slang? Do you catch yourself repeating,

26:28

Uh, that John, that Jone

26:30

had me that John? You've seen that John. Let me

26:32

get that Jone. Let me get that Jon over

26:35

that over there?

26:35

Yeah?

26:37

What's is there a top three Detroit rappers

26:41

or artists that you listen to?

26:42

Oh?

26:43

I mean man Namy Tice where and

26:46

you know It's tough, the whole click of him

26:48

because they grew up. We grew up, you

26:50

know, I'm knowing you know them,

26:53

man. And then let me see if

26:55

I had to go mm hmm, let

26:57

me da. You put me on the spot with that one. And

27:00

I'm trying to think, I can't even think of no name side of baby,

27:02

yeah, baby, And

27:04

then it's that's still

27:06

in the same tree.

27:08

And why can I think his name? I can see his.

27:10

Face, uh Psy, you

27:12

know, I just say, I just say ps and and

27:15

they crew all m

27:17

andel, I like, I like eminel.

27:19

No, there's nothing that's not what you said. This is crazy. This

27:22

is who who's going right now, right now,

27:24

right now that I know. Okay, if there.

27:26

Was any moment in NFL career you could live one

27:28

more time, what would it be relive any

27:30

moment in your NFL crew.

27:31

I'm going back to that strip sack, going

27:33

back strip said, sitting on that bench

27:36

after that, Oh man, it was

27:38

I could I just.

27:40

Said, I can't believe I just did that.

27:42

Like you know you probably have no man,

27:44

I've got that. There's there's been games. I'm

27:46

just breathing excellence. I would like you

27:49

so that being saying it's strip sacked. Do you still have

27:51

that as a license plate?

27:52

Not? No more, no more. I had to get

27:54

rid of it because it got crazy.

27:56

You said, you sat down and escalate. The strip sack

27:58

was right there. I just knew Philly was like

28:01

give you royal treatment. I said, oh he going wold

28:03

with this one. Oh well, it was cool, No, you know who in

28:05

there. It really was cool.

28:06

But yeah, it became that like you know, it

28:08

became on the freeway people you

28:11

know, honking and and now I'm I'm

28:13

on alert, like man, let me make sure nobody

28:15

follow me.

28:16

No doubt I'm here. Stuff like that. Yeah,

28:18

yeah, you know, stuff like that down the window and

28:20

give me that jump.

28:21

I'm always I'm all, you're

28:25

right, they gonna say that all that, but you know,

28:27

I just for me. I just really

28:30

I enjoyed. I enjoyed just having

28:32

that moment, like you know, some

28:35

something that I always be able to have

28:37

for the kids.

28:38

Yeah, And I appreciate you tapping in with

28:40

me, my dog, Hey, thank you

28:42

for tapping in with Off the Edge with your

28:44

host me, Kim Jordan, my guy, Bgi

28:46

Brandon Graham sitting here Philadelphia Legend

28:49

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28:52

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