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And now move the sticks with

0:03

Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky

0:05

Brooks.

0:07

What's up, everybody. Welcome to move the sticks,

0:09

DJ and Lance with you today. Bucky

0:11

is at the HBCU Combine,

0:14

so he will be back next week as

0:16

we get towards the combine in

0:18

Indianapolis. Lance, how you doing, buddy, I'm doing

0:20

well.

0:21

I'm doing well, looking forward to the combine.

0:24

I feel like doesn't matter when we do shows together, whether

0:26

they're in the morning, the afternoon of the evening, but I

0:28

feel like I'm always accompanied by my little

0:31

cup of coffee. Here, it's the three of us. It's

0:33

like a three man team. Here, Me and my coffee are

0:35

line.

0:36

You're now tweeting pictures out of your coffee.

0:39

When did you have a coffee drinker? I became

0:41

a coffee drinker when morning

0:44

radio got the best of me about

0:47

well, I don't know, about fifteen years ago. I said, let

0:49

me try this coffee thing. And I'm seven

0:51

days a week now now it's a physical addiction.

0:54

I turned to coffee maybe a decade

0:56

ago. I turned a drinking

0:58

coffee a decade ago. Aim to

1:00

being an unhealthy uh

1:03

consumer of coffee. When

1:06

the combine list decided to come out I don't

1:08

know, maybe two weeks before the combine, and

1:11

I'm trying to jam all these guys in and get

1:13

all these guys watched.

1:14

Can we get that out a little earlier?

1:16

For goodness, gracious man, it's

1:18

ridiculous. Uh So, anyways,

1:20

I'm humping it trying to trying to get that done. I know

1:22

I'm preaching to the choir on that one, but let's let's jump

1:24

in. We've got a lot of ground we're going to cover to day. We've got a

1:27

mock draft just came out, my second one. We're

1:29

gonna we're gonna whip through that and see if

1:31

you have any questions, comments, concerns, and

1:34

then we're going to continue our our

1:36

building block series. That was it

1:38

was a big hit something that I'm really

1:40

fired up about, which is a kind of a unique

1:42

way to look at the championship foundation of

1:45

these teams in terms of kind

1:47

of young, controllable star players or who

1:49

are their key players at the most important

1:51

positions. I'll explain

1:53

that a little bit after we get through this

1:55

mock draft, but let's start things out here. First

1:58

of all, lance with this

2:01

mock draft, I'm gonna rip through the first ten picks,

2:04

and then give me what stands

2:06

out to you the most here.

2:07

You ready, Yeah, all right.

2:08

I've got Caleb Williams, haven't changed

2:11

there, going to the Bears at number one. I've

2:13

got Drake May going to Washington

2:16

at two. Decide to switch it up because

2:18

I don't want to do the same thing in every single mock draft, even

2:20

though in my heart of hearts, I believe we're going to go quarterback,

2:22

quarterback, quarterback, whether that's with the trade or whether

2:24

the Patriots stick and pick. In this scenario,

2:26

I said, hey, let's give him a veteran and let's

2:29

go Marvin Harrison Junior with a third pick.

2:31

The Cardinals come back with their choice of the next

2:34

two wideouts. They go Malik Neighbors, again,

2:36

switching it up for me a little bit. The

2:38

Chargers, they are at five, again,

2:40

no trades, so they take Joe Alt.

2:43

That decision would come down to Alt versus a

2:45

doonsday, I believe, So

2:48

I had them taking an offensive lineman for Jim Harbaugh's

2:50

first pick. Then you have

2:52

Jaden Daniels falling to the Giants at

2:54

six, which more than likely the Giants,

2:57

I would think would join the Falcons

2:59

as two teams that would try and trade up if he started

3:01

to drift. Seven, I've got Fashanu

3:04

Olufashana is the big tackle from Penn State going

3:06

to the Titans. JJ McCarthy

3:08

A little bit of a surprise there going

3:10

to the Atlanta Falcons based off just a lot

3:12

of a buzz and chatter of folks that

3:15

are connected to those who interviewed for that job,

3:17

and there seemed to be a thought

3:20

coming out of those coaching interviews that from

3:22

ownership at the very top, they want a

3:25

young quarterback. So that's

3:27

where I put JJ McCarthy. Nine. The Bears

3:29

double up big Okaeleb Williams, they come back with

3:31

Roma doonsday to spice up a

3:33

pretty anemic offense. And then the Jets,

3:36

Golly, I want to give them somebody else. I

3:38

game Fuaga last time. I came back game tyle

3:40

E c Fuaga again on this one. I just I didn't

3:42

know who else to put there. So those are the top ten,

3:45

all right.

3:46

A couple of things to stand out to me.

3:47

Number one, Joe Alt, has there ever been a

3:49

better fit for a coach than this tackle?

3:51

I mean, if you study offensive

3:53

line and offensive line body types.

3:56

The Notre Dame model.

3:57

And the Michigan model are very similar,

4:00

very similar looking players for

4:03

those two teams. When it comes to the offensive line

4:05

and Joe Alt, you could put him in a Michigan

4:07

uniform, you can. I mean, he looks like a Notre Dame tackle

4:10

to me, but I think you can put him

4:12

right there with what with

4:15

what Jim Harbaugh is gonna want to do, and

4:17

it makes perfect sense. Now would you play him on the right

4:19

side or would you play him on the left.

4:21

Well, he's not going to replace Slater at left. Slater's

4:23

already been an All Pro when he's healthy. So the

4:25

challenge is you've got Pipkins, I believe has another

4:28

year of control. And

4:30

Pipkins is a functional right tackle. He might

4:32

not be an elite player, but he's a functional starter. So

4:35

I know some pushback people will get, well, like, hey, you've

4:37

got two tackles. They're being you know, you got

4:39

a rookie, a first rounder, and then you are

4:41

a guy in a rookie deal who's a first

4:44

round pick, and then you've got somebody that you paid on a second contract

4:46

in Pipkins, And I'm like, look, je Ortiz

4:48

came from Baltimore. It is a

4:50

best player available and they prefer the premium

4:52

positions. Jonathan Ogden played guard his

4:55

rookie year at six foot nine, so if

4:58

they had to maneuver around, if they wanted

5:00

to keep Pipkins for another year, they could play Altic

5:03

guard for a year before kicking him out to be the eventual

5:05

right tackle. But the goal would be you

5:07

have Slater an alt as your

5:09

bookend tackles for the prime of Justin Herbert's

5:11

career.

5:13

Here's my other one for you, Daniels

5:15

versus May. Obviously this is

5:18

the big batt on I think on tape. I mean,

5:20

you and I have watched all these guys pretty

5:22

extensively. I think,

5:25

without question the better tape this year's Jaden

5:27

Daniels. How much are you going with

5:29

May based on your

5:31

belief in traits eventually went out

5:33

because of May's arm town and his size

5:37

versus you know, the thin body

5:39

structure of Jaden Daniels. How

5:41

much of this is just you feeling like he

5:43

might be the type of fit. Where are you and your

5:45

May versus Jaden Daniels

5:48

Personal evaluations?

5:49

Personal evaluations? It is very

5:51

close, and to be totally

5:54

honest, with you, I go through and do this

5:56

first round of evaluations, as

5:58

you do the same, you know, you have the same challenge in

6:00

front of you, which is I got to get to three hundred and twenty

6:02

guys. So I've got my first

6:05

layer on these guys, and

6:08

I'm looking forward to once we get done with

6:10

the combine, circling back and then digging

6:12

into every single thing. I've seen all of Caleb Williams

6:15

tape. I'm done. I've already kind of put him to bed.

6:17

I'm done there, but I want to go back

6:19

in and watch more stuff throughout, you

6:21

know, the careers, not just this year with Jayden

6:24

Daniels as well as with Drake May. So it's

6:26

close for me. I still have May over him, and talking

6:28

to the guys I talked to around the league,

6:31

I get more feedback of Drake May

6:33

over Jayden Daniels. And that could just be the people

6:35

that I'm talking to. But when I'm

6:37

doing these mock drafts, I tend to do them more off of what

6:39

I'm hearing than my own, you know, personal belief.

6:42

Okay, that's a good one.

6:43

Last question I'd have for you on ten or last comment,

6:46

how hard was it for you to place Olu

6:49

Fashanu at seven? Is

6:51

it because there's a lot of tackles to choose

6:53

from Fashan, who's got some up and

6:56

down tape at times. How difficult

6:58

was that for you to stick for Shana there

7:00

at seven with the Titans? Did you ever consider

7:02

any position other than tackle

7:05

for the Titans?

7:06

I couldn't. And I'll give

7:08

you the numbers. When you look at

7:10

it and you look at a team that's twenty seventh in points

7:12

per game, tied for twenty eighth, and sacks allowed

7:15

twenty eighth and third down, I'm like, okay,

7:17

you know, I like the defense take the ball away

7:19

a little bit more. They were thirty first in takeaways,

7:21

but the offensive line just slaps

7:23

in the face as an area that they have to address.

7:27

So that's why I was looking in

7:29

that direction and Fashanu, look,

7:31

I'm trying to be careful on this one.

7:33

It's a little bit. I'm concerned with his

7:35

evaluation in that you

7:38

come into the year with expectation

7:41

and what you've seen of a

7:43

guy and what he's established himself, and

7:45

I feel like you can get in trouble

7:47

by trying to find that one thing and

7:50

taking one small issue and

7:52

extra playing out into a huge issue because

7:54

that's what we do. We nitpick guys as they come back.

7:56

Last year, I thought he would have been a top ten pick. I thought he would

7:58

have been the best tackle in to drive. This year,

8:01

I don't think he played quite as well. The Ohio State

8:03

game is the one that everybody's going to point to. But

8:05

I'm like, Okay, am I just crushing him because

8:07

he got his eyes in the wrong place in the Ohio State

8:09

game and got dumped, and am

8:11

I disqualifying all the other stuff that I've

8:13

seen on him? So I'm trying to be

8:16

careful on that one on Fashanu

8:18

to make sure that I'm not you know, you're not overthinking

8:21

that one. So that's why I had him

8:23

going.

8:23

There makes some sense. Let's go through

8:25

the next tip.

8:26

YEP, eleven Minnesota.

8:29

These are eleven and twelve are quarterback teams, so I

8:31

wouldn't rule that out. But I in this exercise,

8:33

I had Dallas Turner the edge rusher from Bama

8:36

to the Vikings back to back edge rusher's

8:38

Jared Verse from Florida State to the Broncos

8:41

Terry and Arnold the corner to the

8:43

Raiders.

8:44

J C.

8:44

Latham tackle to the Saints

8:46

because the penning pick has not worked

8:48

out the Colts. This is a

8:51

special for you, Lance. What do you know a

8:53

trades corner in Nate Wiggins going to

8:55

your buddy Chris Ballard there with the Colts,

8:57

Byron Murphy to Theahawks.

9:01

They have Leonard Williams a free agent. There

9:03

I go secondary with the Jags, Quinya and

9:05

Mitchell, who I love at seventeen

9:08

the corner from Toledo. This one

9:10

was a fun one. This one maybe selfish.

9:12

I had Brock Bowers fall to the Cincinnati

9:14

Bengals at eighteen. I don't think it's

9:16

super likely that that happens, but man, I

9:18

just I wanted to dream on that a little bit,

9:21

to see what he would look like surrounded

9:23

by hopefully T Higgins coming back on a franchise

9:25

tag Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow. That would be that'd

9:27

be a fun one. Jackson powers Johnson,

9:30

the center from Oregon goes to the Rams, and

9:32

then the Steelers go Troy foul

9:35

Tanu. I got to get that right before the combine Washington

9:39

tackle slash guard. It can play pretty

9:41

much anywhere for the Steelers.

9:42

I think that's a great pick twenty with the Steelers.

9:45

I'm gonna circle back, so I

9:47

think the floor of this draft is going to go. I

9:49

mean if you had a draft or just edge rushers,

9:51

cornerbacks, wide receivers, and quarterbacks,

9:54

what would almost wipe out the entire first

9:56

round. Yeah, that's and it's just going to

9:58

be how those picks flow. So when are they're going

10:01

to be runs? Is really what it's what's

10:03

going to determine, like the top fourteen

10:05

picks, because as you mentioned, all these teams

10:07

have you know, some teams like the Jets

10:09

and Tennessee have definite

10:11

tackle needs offensive line needs,

10:13

but you just never know what the Giants you never

10:16

know right now with the Vikings

10:18

at Denver Broncos.

10:19

So you're right this really I think JJ

10:21

McCarthy's going.

10:22

To be one of those lynch pins where the draft

10:24

will pivot on where he is drafted.

10:27

Potentially, this

10:29

is higher than you've had Latham and Wiggins

10:32

I think in your last draft.

10:33

Correct me if I'm wrong, No, I

10:35

uh yeah, I'll be honestly. I haven't

10:37

gone back and looked at one point on in a minute, but no,

10:40

in terms of where I have them. It's about

10:42

where I have Latham ranked. I have

10:44

to update my top fifty this weekend,

10:47

but he's in that range. I think he was

10:49

seventeen somewhere around there on my top fifty

10:51

list on the first one, so that's about where

10:53

I have him. Wiggins is one that look

10:56

that if I was going to say, guys, I'm coming down

10:58

on, guys, I'm coming up on I

11:01

got the sense you always put this stuff out there, then

11:03

you get feedback from the league. And when

11:06

you look at at tes Walker, who I

11:08

liked on tape, who did not have a good Senior

11:10

Bowl, did not catch the ball well at all, he's

11:12

probably the one that's taken on the most water on my personal

11:15

list, And then you would look at at

11:17

somebody like Wiggins, who the

11:19

more you hear about him, I didn't think

11:21

he was, you know, super aggressive and wanting

11:23

to get involved against the run. A

11:25

lot of teams don't share the same concerns

11:27

that I've talked to. So I got the sense

11:30

that why I have him kind of more in the back

11:32

of one on my personal ranking

11:34

on my list, that he's going to, uh,

11:36

he's going to go higher than that. So those would be the two that

11:38

are probably saying one going up, one coming down.

11:42

Yeah, Wiggins.

11:43

I started with a six point seven, which is really

11:45

really high based on tape. Then digging around

11:47

a little bit more, I moved him down to a

11:49

sixty four, which is a natural

11:51

progression for those who don't know, we go six seven

11:53

to six y five, boom or bust six

11:55

' four And I've got and I stacked my six

11:57

fours with one more decimall you know.

11:59

With He's a six y three

12:01

for me. He's a six to three for me. In my

12:03

first list, he was my thirtieth player.

12:05

That means a good starter.

12:06

It's a good player, yeah, yeah, yeah,

12:08

and above average starter. Yeah.

12:10

Give me a player a sixty three.

12:12

Give me a player in the NFL cornerback who you

12:14

consider to be not necessarily a player

12:16

comp for Wiggins, But give people an idea

12:18

of what a sixty three looks like.

12:20

Well, I would say, until you know,

12:23

early on in his career, and I think he's even gotten better

12:25

than that. What is my man? Why

12:27

am I going to blank on his name here? From now? This

12:29

is the problem lands I've got all these draft guys in my head,

12:31

and now you're gonna ask me about current NFL players, Well,

12:35

Jalen Johnson will be the one I was gonna say, j

12:38

Johnson is a sixty was a sixty

12:40

three, sixty four type player to me coming into

12:42

the draft, and I thought he's played like that, and

12:44

he's advanced to probably be a sixty

12:46

four, maybe even a sixty seven what

12:48

he's become. But if you watched him early in his career,

12:51

that's to me, that's like a solid

12:53

starter. You're not looking to replace, just

12:55

a steady, steady, good football player.

12:57

So I've got May

13:00

just to have a conversation about

13:02

our grading scales.

13:03

I've got Drake May as a sixty five.

13:05

Why don't you tell people what sixty fives are at

13:07

least for what we do?

13:09

Yeah, I gave him the same grade. So

13:11

sixty five is kind of a high ceiling,

13:13

lower floor grade. There's some variants there.

13:15

There's some risk involved, but you're

13:17

talking about big, big upside. The sixty

13:20

five grade is for usually it's reserved people

13:22

who need some development, so there's

13:25

still growth to take place there there, or

13:27

there's a risk involved with injury, there's

13:30

a risk involved with character. You

13:32

know, he obviously doesn't fall into that category. He is

13:35

a kind of he's a D player, so there's some development

13:37

still to take place there. But a sixty

13:39

five player could turn into a sixty nine, like

13:41

if he realizes his potential.

13:43

Yeah, sometimes you would much rather have a sixty

13:46

four. You draft a sixty four, and you'd

13:48

even stack them there.

13:49

Than sixty five.

13:50

Yea, So people don't understand when they see my numbers

13:53

and a couple sixty fives I have for Olufushanu,

13:56

Andrew and Drake may.

13:58

I like Brock Bowers of the Bengals. I love it.

14:01

I just have such a hard time placing Brock

14:03

Bowers in the first mock draft because

14:06

it's hard to place tight ends in general, and

14:08

then Brock, you know, is going to test well, but

14:10

he's going to be smaller. Like just figure

14:13

was it difficult for you to figure out where you wanted to put

14:15

Brock? Was he lingering on your

14:17

sheet about I still haven't put Bowers anywhere.

14:20

So one of the things that's tricky about this that

14:22

it's it's hard to you can't explain it

14:24

in a mock draft. It's really difficult

14:27

to even explain it in a tweet. But

14:30

when you talk to GMS and you

14:32

talk about people hear the phrase positional

14:34

value, and we've had the running back discussion and all

14:36

that kind of stuff. But there's the financial

14:38

component that I don't think that

14:41

that people fully grasp and let

14:43

me do my best to try and explain it here. Just

14:45

pull up if you pull up the list and look at the franchise

14:47

tag numbers for the players

14:49

at every position, if you were

14:51

to take a tight end in the top

14:53

ten, what you would

14:55

pay him, even though it might you know, you don't think it's a ton

14:58

of money, but say it's whatever it is seven eight

15:00

million on an average per

15:02

year, and the tight end number is,

15:04

say there's twelve millions. Let's just use eight and twelve

15:06

for just kind of rough numbers. Here, you're

15:09

getting a savings of four million dollars

15:11

off the premiere like top

15:14

players at their position at that position. So

15:16

I'm already paying top of the market price

15:19

for my rookie tight end. I'm not really getting that rookie

15:22

contract benefit versus what

15:24

I could go out and get free agent tight ends

15:26

for on the market. Whereas if

15:28

you look at the receiver number and

15:31

it's that number stays the same no matter who you pick

15:33

with the draft pick. So now we take that same

15:35

eight million, and now the receiver market

15:37

we get into the twenty millions. So

15:40

now I'm The surplus

15:42

value I have there is enormous. You

15:44

know, I don't have to go out on the market and

15:46

pay top top dollar. I just put all

15:48

that money back in my coffers. So

15:50

I think that's something that it's kind of tricky

15:53

to explain. No, but that's teams are

15:55

very aware of it.

15:56

Yeah, I mean that's a great explanation. It's something people

15:58

need to be aware of.

15:59

Is is getting It's

16:02

like in baseball where you have club control for

16:04

a certain amount of time on great players, and

16:06

then you know you have to let we're dealing

16:08

with it here with the ashows you have to let certain great players

16:11

go because they get too expensive. That's

16:13

why sometime you'd rather have that quarterback

16:15

on the fifth year option. You'd rather have an opportunity,

16:18

or not even quarterback. It could be any

16:20

position. If you think of player is really good,

16:22

you'd rather get the fifth year option if you think they're going

16:24

to be really good. So you still have some club control

16:27

and you have a franchise tag potentially available.

16:30

That's good.

16:31

Let's go finish it up.

16:33

Yeah, let's finish it up all right.

16:35

Twenty one the Miami Dolphins THEA

16:38

to Latu from Ed Rusher

16:40

from UCLA. And people will say, oh, why would they do that? They've

16:42

already got two. Now everybody wants three,

16:45

and you roll those guys through and then you

16:47

can withstand injury along the way, and keep

16:49

in mind they're going to lose

16:52

in free agency. Gosh,

16:54

why am I going to blank on his name now? Again?

16:56

The names are gonna kill me with with veteran players

16:58

from Iowa, Van

17:01

Ginkel, thank you. Yes, the machine's

17:03

a little slow today. Lance again,

17:05

not a lot of sleep. I've

17:07

had too much coffee. I'm not sleeping. Ennis

17:10

Reycustraw from Missouri.

17:12

The corner goes to the Eagles desperate need there.

17:15

This one was a fun one. Brian Thomas junior wide

17:17

out from LSU goes to the Texans and

17:20

you imagine that trio Tyler Geiton

17:22

with the Cowboys. Now

17:25

in terms of how that all comes together, I

17:27

honestly Terrence Steele had escaped

17:29

my mind when I put this in there, because I said,

17:31

well, you've got Tyler Smith can kick back out to tackle.

17:34

Well, if you've got Geyiton, You've got steel.

17:36

You could still leave Tyler Smith at guard if

17:38

you wanted to. To me, that's kind of a steeal versus

17:42

versus him to see who who plays where, But

17:44

they definitely with the Tyron Smith leaving need

17:46

know alignment there. Cooper de Gene from

17:49

Iowa goes to the Packers corner,

17:52

could play really any of the five positions back there.

17:55

Ad Ni Mitchell big receiver to replace Mike

17:57

Evans to the Bucks. Darius Robinson

18:00

heavy edge. He goes to the Cardinals

18:03

from Missouri, Chop Robinson from Penn State.

18:05

EDG. Dresher goes to the Bills. They've got a couple of free

18:07

agents, including Floyd

18:09

and Epanessa. So he goes

18:12

there as an a dresser. Zach Fraser just feels

18:14

like a lion. You get the wrestling background.

18:16

I figured Dan Campbell and him. I just you know, they put

18:18

on the little head gear and just kind of spar maybe

18:21

there ragnow staying

18:24

there. I'm playing Zach Fraser at guard and

18:26

he is the eventual replacement. They have both guards

18:28

or free agents in Detroit. So Fraser's

18:31

he's six three three fourteen, He's

18:33

he'll be fine. He can play guard and then eventually

18:36

kick over a Marius Mims

18:38

the tackle. Just take a good

18:40

player to have him fall to the Ravens. That's usually the exercise

18:43

to do in these mock drafts. Graham

18:45

Barton the tackle from Duke probably kicks

18:47

inside. Could be a center there for

18:49

the forty nine ers. And then Troy Franklin,

18:51

speedy wide receiver from Oregon. He goes to the

18:53

Chiefs to compliment Rashid Rice.

18:57

So there's not a world where your guy Zach

18:59

Fraser is gonna beat my guy Graham Barton to

19:01

first off the board. That's not going to happen.

19:03

So we'll scratch that out.

19:04

We'll just possible it's still it's

19:07

uh, I'm not rolling that out.

19:08

We'll just flip flop him. Adie

19:11

Mitchell. Love that you put Adi Mitchell. You know, I

19:13

really thought about putting Adie Mitchell on my first mock.

19:16

He's gonna test well. One of the things people

19:18

need to keep in mind is there's always

19:21

frequently there's noticeable

19:23

growth on tape from year one to year two. I

19:26

went to watch Mitchell obviously when he was with Georgia,

19:29

not as many snaps, not as many catch

19:31

attempts, a lot of them came in that game against

19:33

Georgia. But his aggressiveness

19:35

level his he still doesn't always

19:38

dominate people with a size like he needs

19:40

to with ball skills, but in

19:42

aggression. But like that will

19:44

take place as long as as soon as he learns

19:46

to carve out his space, you're not gonna beat him on jump

19:48

balls. He's going to be terrific. I expect

19:50

him to run well, I expect him to jump

19:53

well, and he's got when you when you look

19:55

at the athletic profile combined

19:57

with the production this year, combined

19:59

with the tray though, these are the kind of guys

20:01

to shoot into the first round, like Darius

20:03

Robinson you put there. I put him in my first min

20:05

because I'm like, this feels like a guy who's gonna

20:07

go first round because the trades. I'd say,

20:09

Adi Mitchell is a guy who probably needs

20:11

to start popping up in more mock drafts in the first

20:14

round.

20:14

You know, it's interesting, you're always you're trying to study

20:16

these players and you're trying to learn as much about them.

20:19

I haven't even talked to him. I have

20:21

not talked to his coaches about him, but I know.

20:23

I know one thing. I know his favorite drink.

20:26

What is it a kool Aid? Kool

20:28

Aid?

20:30

It's kool Aid? Well, where where would

20:32

you have gotten that from? Dj?

20:33

Uh? Yeah, you watch the Alabama

20:35

tape.

20:36

He consumed a lot of kool Aid that game.

20:38

He did, he had his fill. He got a

20:40

little full, a little ting d.

20:43

It's always good with and look listen, I

20:46

thought there were some games where ad kind of just coasted

20:48

against Alabama.

20:49

You got prime.

20:51

That was the first tape I popped on, and I was

20:53

like, holy.

20:55

Either a d Mitchell man he was on

20:57

it.

20:58

Either this ad Mitchell was really really good

21:00

or this kool Aid McKinstry is way overrated.

21:02

But that was like my first, my first exposure,

21:04

that first tape that I came out of it saying, Okay,

21:07

I'm not okay, maybe kool Aid mcentsry is not

21:09

what he was made out to be. But this ad

21:11

Mitch was pretty good. But that was the first

21:13

one that I popped on.

21:14

I think something that that scouts will tell you and that

21:16

you know you know this too. They talk about grade the flashes

21:18

because sometimes you got to figure out when

21:21

the flash becomes reality.

21:23

You know, I'll never forget it was just the rookie of the

21:25

offensive rookie of the year, c J. Stroud. His

21:27

regular season game tape was it was solid.

21:30

Nowhere near bright young, I thought in terms of

21:32

consistency, but it was solid.

21:33

It was good.

21:34

I still gave him a you know, I thought it was more of a sixty

21:36

four. But that Georgia game was so exceptional

21:40

and it was against the best competition. The

21:42

last game he ever played. He was

21:44

moving around the pocket and getting

21:46

outside of the pocket. He showed no issues with poise.

21:49

He was so good that you have to say, Man, if

21:52

the Texans or if somebody gets

21:54

this version of c J. Stroud,

21:57

look out and guess what. That's who he was

21:59

this So if the Alabama

22:02

version of Ady Mitchell is what we're going

22:04

to see in the pros, I mean, he's

22:06

a top fourteen pick, honestly, you

22:09

know, from a value standpoint of what he could become.

22:12

Can I give you one. I'll

22:14

get on my high horse here

22:16

for just one second. Then we'll take a break. But yeah,

22:19

I feel like and I love the fact that

22:21

we have so many people that are invested

22:24

and involved in the draft process. It's great for all

22:26

of us I love that so many people have access to

22:28

video and people post things

22:30

and have opinions. I would not

22:32

discourage that. I didn't encourage it. I hope more people

22:35

continue to do that. I would just say there's one there's

22:38

one like major tenet

22:40

of scouting that you learn and

22:43

when you're in the building with teams, and I was fortunate

22:46

enough to be around some people that were really, really sharp.

22:49

It's that you get paid to

22:51

scout to find what these guys

22:53

can do. Anybody can

22:55

sit there and tell you the ninety five things they

22:58

can't do and posting videos of he

23:00

can't do this, he can't do that, Like what can he

23:02

do? Okay, there's no perfect

23:04

player, there's no such thing. So

23:06

tell me the things this guy can do, and then

23:08

figure out how that work, you know, how teams

23:11

can feature that and get that out of him

23:13

and what he can be. That's why I always

23:15

want to watch. I want to look at the boxer. I want to watch your best

23:18

game. I want to see your absolute best, and

23:20

then I want to see you know, I want to see the

23:22

point of attack stuff, to see all all

23:24

the good stuff that you do. I can go back

23:26

through and find and find the flaws and you

23:28

obviously you point those out. But

23:30

more than anything else, I think that it gets lost

23:32

and people you go through a discussion on a player,

23:35

I'm like, I just listened to that whole thing. You didn't tell me what can this

23:37

guy do? Nothing like everybody can do something

23:39

like, please tell me that, you know, just tell me what this guy

23:41

can do? Guys me a little bit crazy.

23:44

As a story that I heard from a good friend who

23:46

was as general manager when he was a regional

23:49

scout, he said he

23:52

got done reading the report on a player.

23:54

He's like, man, we're just a machine gun

23:57

in these guys today.

23:57

He goes, well, tell me what he can do? What is

24:00

do best?

24:01

And a guy thought and he goes, well he does

24:03

this and this, and like, well do you think

24:05

he can He said, okay,

24:07

you killed him for this. Do you think that with more

24:09

coaching he can do that? And the guy said

24:12

yeah, I mean yeah, I guess that can be coached. Up

24:14

he goes okay. So and then the guy the GM

24:16

started focusing on what he could do and

24:18

he goes, so we run this kind of defense,

24:21

we do this, this is a dB And he said,

24:23

so what you're telling me is that this guy's

24:25

he good on special teams.

24:26

Oh yeah, he's a gunner. He's like okay.

24:29

So basically, what I'm hearing is a guy that we need

24:31

to be looking at the fifth or sixth round, who could end up

24:33

being a backup for us, who could play core special

24:35

teams for us. And this guy who

24:37

told me this said, this is a great learning opportunity

24:41

for me because I realized, I gotta

24:43

go find what they can do, because, as his

24:45

general manager said, these guys are going to end up playing

24:48

a lot of these guys you kill are going to end

24:50

up playing. They'll play, some of them will play better

24:52

than you think they are, and some of them will just be depth.

24:55

So don't focus on what they

24:57

can't do.

24:57

And my dad always told me late round guys,

25:00

undrafted free agents, find something

25:02

that is a big plus for them, whether it's strength, and

25:04

he's talking about offensive line. Do they have

25:06

great feet, do they have strength, are

25:08

they really smart? Go find one

25:10

plus plus trait that they have and

25:13

then we'll try to work around That's.

25:16

As one as one of my coaching

25:19

buddies likes to point out

25:21

that we are of the same age,

25:23

all of the same age, So you appreciate this. He

25:26

said, we have to remind a lot of times. You got to remind

25:28

scouts in the room about the sewing principle. And

25:30

I said, what are you talking about? And he's

25:32

like, you know, the three amigos, what's the one

25:35

thing you can do? We can sew.

25:40

You can always do something. Every

25:43

player can do something.

25:44

Yeah, what's the one thing they can do? All right, let's

25:46

take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll jump into the building blocks

25:48

for the AFC North with my buddy Lance right after this.

25:55

All right, Lance, let's jump into this thing

25:57

here. I am going to start

26:00

with the Baltimore Ravens and for those that don't know, here's

26:02

what we do. We'll give you a

26:05

snapshot of their free agents, cap

26:07

space, all that kind of good stuff. We'll talk about

26:09

some of their building blocks, and

26:11

then we're going to do the best

26:13

part of this exercise, which is

26:16

the championship foundation for these teams.

26:18

And let me explain that I put this in a

26:20

tweet probably six or seven years ago, and it's

26:22

kind of created a life of its own. But I was

26:24

saying, man, if you could condense these teams down, like

26:27

to just say, what do you need for a core championship

26:29

foundation, and obviously you build from that. From

26:31

that core, what came away with was

26:34

the quarterback, three offensive

26:36

playmakers. You need three quality

26:38

offensive alignment. You need two

26:40

pass rushers, they could be inside, outside, both,

26:42

or you know wherever you want to put them. And then three

26:45

defensive playmakers at the linebacker

26:47

at secondary level of the defense. So

26:49

that's just kind of like that core group that you're looking

26:52

for, and then you can grade them out and we

26:54

have through that, Jack

26:56

and our buddies with NFL research,

26:59

they've put this thing together other for us. So

27:02

they've looked at it from blue color

27:04

being a blue chip player, Green being a really good

27:06

player, good starter, Yellow has

27:08

some type of concern, whether it's age, injury,

27:11

contract, Pink is an

27:13

unproven young player. These might be a great player,

27:15

a really good young player, but still hasn't done enough

27:18

yet proving wise that they're still on the climb

27:21

on the ascent. So let's start with the Baltimore

27:23

Ravens lance. First of all, they are picking thirty

27:25

in the first round. Then they

27:27

have their own picks in the second and the third. No

27:29

extras there projected cap space. They

27:33

are going to have five point one

27:35

million in cap space. Notable

27:38

free agents. There's a couple here. Kevin

27:40

Zeitler the guard, Gus Edwards is the running back. Odell

27:42

Beckham junior. Matta bk is the

27:44

big one, the d tackle. We'll see if he gets

27:46

tagged. Clowney Vanoy

27:49

linebacker, Patrick Queen coming off a great year,

27:51

Geno Stone coming off a really good year. The safety.

27:55

So when we go through and look at that lance, let's

27:57

just jump to the

28:00

to the building blocks. You've got

28:02

Lamar Jackson's twenty seven, Kyle

28:04

Hamilton's twenty three, ro Kwan Smith is twenty

28:06

seven, Lenderbaum the center's twenty four, Jay

28:08

Flowers twenty three, o'dafe Oways

28:11

twenty five, Keith Mitchell the young

28:13

running back who played well as Ricky last year. He's twenty

28:15

two. Isaiah Likely is twenty

28:18

four. So all those guys are under contract

28:20

through at least the twenty

28:23

sixth season. So that's that group there,

28:25

and then when we get to the championship foundation,

28:29

this is how research has

28:31

it here. They've got the quarterback, obviously, Amar Jackson's

28:33

a blue. Offensive playmakers.

28:35

You've got Mark Andrews a blue.

28:38

Jay Flowers is a green might

28:40

be hitded towards a blue. And then the next

28:42

spot you have a combination of Keaton Mitchell

28:44

or Isaiah Likely they're both pinks. You

28:46

know they're still young, unproven players.

28:49

You've got Linderbaum as a blue for the quality

28:51

offensive line spots. Ronnie Stanley's a Green,

28:53

Morgan Moses is a yellow, a little bit older

28:56

pass rushers. You've got a blue

28:58

with Mattabk. You've got to pink with

29:01

o way. We're projecting that Matta b K will be

29:03

back on the franchise tag

29:06

by the way. And the back end, it's really good

29:08

with Kyle Hamilton or rokwand Smiths as

29:10

blues, and you have Marlon Humphrey

29:12

and Marcus Williams as green's. You would have Patrick

29:15

Queen as a blue there as well, but obviously

29:17

he is a free agent.

29:18

Well, they're in phenomenal shape with the blue chippers.

29:21

That's rare to have six true

29:24

blue Chippers, and I agree with the designations

29:26

of each of those guys. And then Marlon

29:29

Humphrey, Ronnie Stanley's a flowers.

29:31

You're gonna probably tag mattab week a. I mean,

29:34

there's a reason they're in such great shape from

29:37

a projected cap space standpoint.

29:39

If you look at the free agents,

29:41

you know, losing Stone and Patrick Queen

29:43

would hurt. I think they'll keep madawleek,

29:45

but this is not They're for notable free

29:47

agents or quality players. But it's nothing that's going to kill

29:50

you. And you have all three picks in the

29:52

first three rounds, so you've

29:54

got your core, You'll have your drafted

29:56

players. You'll see if anyone can make their

29:58

way in. Baltimore is in

30:01

really good shape. Even though they don't have a lot of cap

30:03

space, they're still in pretty good shape.

30:05

They're still in really good shape.

30:06

By yeah, I

30:08

think the offensive line is probably where they

30:10

look to reinforce there, with Ronnie

30:12

Stanley having some injuries, Morgan Moses getting a

30:14

little older, it seems to me that would

30:16

be the target there. As we finished

30:19

them up, their last five first

30:21

round picks, Zay Flowers great

30:23

pick, Cayle Hamilton great pick, Linderbaum

30:25

great pick, Bateman solid, and then

30:27

o Way solid.

30:30

I'd say those are three big hits and then.

30:34

Yeah, yeah, a couple okays. All

30:36

right, let's move it to the

30:39

Cleveland Browns, coming off an eleven six year again

30:41

no first round pick, because of Deshaun Watson trade,

30:43

they are picking fifty four in

30:45

the second round in eighty five and the third. Cap

30:48

wise, they are nineteen million

30:50

over, so nineteen point six over

30:53

the projected cap. Free agent

30:55

wise, you got Zadarias Smith edge rush or race

30:58

Hurst at DT, Shelby Gerris

31:00

a DT, Anthony Walker the

31:02

linebacker. They're building blocks again. These

31:04

guys are all under contract through at

31:06

least twenty six. You've got

31:10

Deshaun Watson, who's twenty eight, Denzel Awards

31:12

twenty seven, jok the linebacker's

31:14

twenty four. What a great young player. Delpit

31:16

is twenty five. The safety Dewan Jones,

31:18

the rookie tackles twenty three. Jedrick Wills

31:21

is still only twenty five. The other tackle Jerome

31:24

Ford twenty four, Cedric Tillman's

31:26

twenty four, receiver Martin Emerson corners

31:28

twenty three, Hickman's twenty

31:31

two. The safety Greg Newsom is twenty four. It's a lot of

31:33

young players on that defense

31:35

when we go to let's

31:38

go over to their championship foundation

31:41

here as I pull that up, interesting

31:44

group here, quarterback interesting

31:47

Deshaun Watson is a yellow because

31:50

you've got the injuries there

31:53

and the performance hasn't been great. In Cleveland, two

31:55

blues with playmakers with Amari Cooper

31:57

and in Djoku. Nick Schubb

31:59

is of yellow. Those are the sorry

32:02

no, sorry, sorry sorry, you're right, you're right, I'm colorblind.

32:05

Amari Cooper and Djoku are both greens.

32:07

I could make a case for those days blue.

32:11

Yeah, I can make a strong case for

32:13

blue there. Nick Chubb

32:15

is yellow because of the injury. In

32:18

terms of finding the three quality offensive lineman,

32:20

they've got Conklin and Botonios

32:23

as yellows. I'm assuming for Age Wyatt

32:25

Teller is a green. Jedrick

32:28

Wills, Dewan Jones. You've

32:30

got injuries. I would imagine there is

32:32

why they're yellows. Miles Garrett for

32:35

the pass rushers obvious blue. Uh Okuranquo

32:38

is a yellow. And the defensive playmakers,

32:41

they've got Denzel Ward and a Wusu

32:43

Kormoa as greens. I could make a case

32:45

for some blue there, and then

32:48

defensive playmaker the third spot. They've got

32:50

Delpitter or Newsome as

32:53

pinks. So that's what you look

32:55

like. They're only one blue, but I

32:57

think you could make a case for a couple

32:59

more on there.

33:00

I think the problem we have with this team is that they're

33:02

nineteen million. They're nineteen

33:04

million over the cap, and

33:06

then you've got a quarterback and a running

33:08

back who should be Blues and

33:10

watching and Chubb, but Watchington hasn't

33:12

played like it and doesn't have a great contract.

33:15

And then Chubb it's just, you know, the injuries.

33:17

He's a blue player who

33:20

has to go into the yellow pile because it's

33:22

just, you know, you just are not getting

33:25

that same performance due

33:27

to injury. And Jedrick Wills has not progressed

33:29

as much as I like. Now I'll tell you this. I

33:31

watched the Dwan Jones against and

33:34

I had questions about Dwan Jones coming out.

33:36

I think I had a third round grade on him. I watched

33:38

him against Nick Bosa.

33:39

If you haven't watched that DJ, you should really go

33:41

back and watch because it is

33:43

he played great.

33:44

When he was on the field. Yet you'll be impressive it.

33:46

But and he learned as the season

33:48

went on. He started figuring out his length

33:50

a little better. And I was really

33:52

as a guy who was very suspect about his change

33:54

the direction. I think he understands how

33:56

to play inside out, and I think Dwan

33:59

Jones is going to be a much like Orlando

34:01

not Orlando Brown.

34:02

But his son, Orlando

34:05

Brown Jr.

34:06

Yeah yeah, not Orlando Brown, Orlando

34:09

Brown Jr. Obj as I call him.

34:12

I think Orlando Brown Junior is a

34:14

great example of oh oh,

34:17

the teeth gnashing at the combine and all that. He's

34:19

a long player who plays more like his tape and

34:22

he's been a solid player.

34:23

I think Dwan Jones is gonna end up being the same.

34:25

But man, I I'm nervous

34:27

for the Browns because there's not a lot of You

34:29

don't have a first round pick. You got a quarterback

34:32

on a so far a bad contract who hasn't

34:34

performed the way you think he should, and

34:37

you you don't have a first I mean,

34:40

this is this is gonna be tough

34:42

to write the ship unless guys, some of the young guys

34:45

start playing. I think Cedric Tillman can take another

34:47

step forward, but you really need Jedrick

34:49

Wills to step up, and

34:51

then I think you're

34:54

only gonna be as good as is your

34:56

running back is healthy.

34:58

I think Unfortunately, Yeah,

35:00

the good thing is they've got a lot of good young players

35:02

on that defense. There and Jim

35:04

Schwartz is a defensive courting. They're gonna be good on that

35:06

side of the ball for sure, and we'll

35:09

see what happens with them on the offensive side

35:11

of the ball if they get some of these guys back healthy. Their last

35:13

four first round picks Greg Newsom, Jedrick

35:15

Wills, Baker Mayfield, Denzel

35:18

Ward, so they haven't had a ton of those

35:20

because of trades. Let's get to the Pittsburgh

35:23

Steelers. Pittsburgh Steelers, they are projected

35:26

thirteen point nine million over the cap.

35:28

They are picking twenty fifty one

35:30

and eighty four, so no extra picks there in the

35:32

first three rounds, finishing ten and seven last year.

35:35

Let's look at their building. Black players that are under

35:37

contract control. Here, you've

35:40

got Minka Fitzpatrick's twenty seven, Alex

35:42

Highsmith's twenty seven, George Pickens is twenty

35:44

three. Piket, we'll see what he does

35:46

next year is twenty six. Brodick Jones

35:48

twenty three, coming off a

35:51

solid rookie year. Joey Porter another rookie

35:54

twenty four, kean O Benton that's a good

35:56

rookie class twenty three, Friar

35:58

Morose twenty five, najiheris six, Jalen

36:00

Warren twenty five, James Daniels guards

36:02

twenty six, Dan Moore tackle

36:05

a little uneven played there, he's twenty five. Darnel

36:07

Washington the rookie man again, good rookie class

36:10

twenty three her big another one is

36:12

twenty two. When we go to the championship.

36:14

Foundation for these guys, Kenny

36:17

Pickett is a pink. He

36:19

is an unproven young player. George

36:22

Pickens is a green, so

36:25

a good solid player. You've

36:27

got Deontay Johnson, and

36:29

then you've got the two running backs, Najie Harris

36:31

and Jalen Warren. They all I would argue that.

36:33

The combination of those two is almost.

36:34

Green, could be green, I would. I would agree with

36:36

that with Naji in with Jalen Warren, I think that's

36:39

fair that they have the

36:41

research has him as yellows here. Maybe

36:43

I'll love to have those

36:45

updated. Broderick Jones

36:48

the tackle, he is a pink. You've

36:51

got a green for Somalo, he

36:54

was a really solid player for them. Then you've got some yellow

36:57

there for Dan Moore and James Daniels. On

36:59

the defense to pass rushers, you get a blue for

37:01

TJ. Watt, a green for alex Heighsmith,

37:03

a blue for Minka Fitzpatrick, a pink

37:05

for Joey Porter, and they need another one.

37:07

They didn't research, didn't even put in a third

37:10

one here and just says question mark here. So

37:12

finding another playmaker, either the linebacker

37:14

or the secondary would seem like an obvious direction

37:17

that they could go here in the draft.

37:19

Well, okay, you're over the cap, so

37:22

be it from a from a free

37:25

agency standpoint.

37:26

For the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's not an issue

37:28

for him. Their

37:30

issue.

37:31

And there Look, it's notably as

37:33

we've heard time and time again, this is the youngest.

37:35

This is one of the youngest teams in Pro

37:37

football. The problem

37:40

you have here is that you don't have the quarterback

37:42

figured out yet. You need

37:45

I think Broderick Jones is going to be just

37:47

five, but you still need an offensive

37:50

tackle and you need to find a wide receiver.

37:52

I love what Joey Porter Jr. Did last year.

37:54

I think that's had in the right direction. I think Broderick Jones

37:56

has definitely had in the right direction. When you really

37:59

take this all in, you know, wouldn't

38:01

shock me DJF They I think short

38:03

of the quarterback which is going to be a concern. They

38:05

could really tighten up some of these areas with

38:08

this year's draft. So I

38:10

actually think the Steelers are still in pretty good shape

38:12

relative to their age and the rookie contracts are.

38:14

Going to be playing.

38:15

I think I figured it out here on

38:17

the running backs being yellows. They're both up

38:19

in twenty five, depending on whether or not

38:21

they exercise Yeah, so that falls

38:24

in the contract. So you know, we're talking about building

38:26

blocks, guys who are going to be here in are under

38:28

control for the foreseeable future. So I would

38:30

imagine with both those and we'll see what they

38:32

do with the fifth year option with Najie Harris. But that

38:35

is why I assume that they are listed as

38:37

such when we look at what they've

38:40

done in the draft. Broderick

38:43

Jones solid player last

38:45

year, Kenny Pickett vertic verdict. The jury

38:48

is still out on that one. Naji Harris has been solid,

38:50

then, Devin Bush no longer on the team, Trel

38:52

Edmonds no longer on the team. They have not

38:54

had rookies signed

38:57

second contracts there very often in like the last

38:59

ten fifteen years, Like they haven't

39:01

been a ton of them. First round

39:03

picks that have resigned, So that's

39:06

something they've got to they've got to get better

39:08

at in terms of hitting on their first round

39:10

picks. All right, let's get to the

39:12

Cincinnati Bengals. The

39:14

Bengals comparing them to the other

39:16

teams this division pretty interesting. They were picking eighteen

39:18

forty nine and eighty projected

39:21

caps base fifty nine point

39:23

four million dollars to spend

39:25

here for the Cincinnati Bengals, But a

39:28

big chunk of that's gonna get eaten up by T Higgins

39:30

on the tag more than likely. Tyler Boyd's

39:32

a free agent. Joanah Williams is a free agent. DJ

39:35

Reader is a free agent. In Chadobia Wuzier

39:38

also a free agent. Building block wise,

39:40

age wise, Joe Burrows twenty seven,

39:42

Jamar Chase is twenty four, Cambritz twenty

39:45

four, Daxton Hill young

39:47

safety is twenty three, DJ Turner's twenty

39:49

three, young corner Jordan

39:51

Battles twenty three, Miles Murphy's twenty two.

39:54

The kicker Evan McPherson makes the list. He is

39:56

twenty five. When we

39:58

go to the building blocks

40:00

here the Championship Foundation,

40:03

we get Joe Burrows a blue, Jamar Chase is

40:05

of blue. T Higgins is a

40:08

yellow on here because

40:10

of the contract. I would imagine the projected

40:13

tag. You've got Joe Mixon

40:15

as a yellow. You've got

40:17

all offensive lineman. You've got three greens,

40:20

Orlando Brown Junior, Alex Kappa,

40:23

and Ted Carris is great.

40:24

Krris is a green. Wow, I mean what a

40:29

just kind of a guy.

40:30

But this is what when you that's a great example

40:32

of these guys play.

40:33

Tell me what, Mark Martin, what

40:36

can they do? And Ted Carris is a great

40:39

example of that.

40:40

Trey Hendrickson's a blue. They've got Hubbard

40:42

and Hill as greens, Logan Wilson

40:45

and Jermaine Pratt that combos greens

40:47

as well. Then you've got the defensive

40:49

playmakers the last two spots. They've got

40:52

just a bunch of names in here with Cam Taylor, Britt,

40:54

DJ Turner.

40:55

Dax Hill, all.

40:57

Young guys, all all pink, just kind

40:59

of young, unproved players.

41:00

Higgins a year blue for you.

41:02

If he were to me, I

41:05

think he's a I think if he signs a multi

41:07

year deal and it's under control there, I think you're talking

41:09

about a blue player. I think he's a blue receiver.

41:12

Two blue receivers a potential

41:15

and your mock draft to get your hands on a

41:17

tremendous run after catch tight end and Rock

41:20

Bowers and then Joe Burrow.

41:22

I mean, the thing is that offensive line doesn't need

41:25

blues. They if you can just build your offensive

41:27

line with some just all green across there,

41:29

just all solid, good players. You don't need any you

41:31

know, Hall of Fame guys. And they're just steady, solid

41:33

group that that that collection of talent

41:36

on the outside. Burrow get the ball out of there. So here's

41:38

the question for DJ.

41:40

DJ Readers had some injury issues over the last

41:42

two or three years, but he's really impact

41:45

he plays.

41:45

You're gonna pay DJ Reader? Are you're gonna let them walk?

41:48

They got fifty nine million. It feels to me like

41:50

this is a sign your own, uh free

41:52

agent year here for the Cincinnati Bengals.

41:54

But I think they can accomplish a lot by signing their own guys.

41:56

Look at their last five first round picks, Lance H

41:59

Miles, Murphy, Daxton Hill, Jamar

42:01

Chase, Joe Burrow, Jonah Williams. Amazing

42:04

how twenty twenty and twenty one shape

42:06

their franchise. Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.

42:08

That was that literally was

42:11

their foundation to already get to a

42:13

Super Bowl.

42:15

Yeah, I tell you what it was.

42:18

Well, that's what happened is it's usually not building

42:20

outside like the Falcons have tried to build out

42:23

right, And usually you want to build the trenches

42:25

and build your way out and not build your way back inside.

42:28

But because Joe Burrow is so great at

42:30

getting getting rid of the football in general, it's

42:33

worked out for them to an extent. But

42:35

we also have two years where Joe Burrow had season

42:37

any injuries out.

42:39

Of no question which which, by the way, I

42:41

gave NFL research some crap on this one, because

42:43

technically Burrow should probably be a yellow

42:45

yellow coming off the entry. He's

42:48

so you know, they

42:50

know they're gonna we're gonna tweet this out, and they didn't.

42:52

Well, but Joe Burrow gets gets a

42:54

blue.

42:55

They did not want to smoke. They did not want

42:58

the Twitter smoke on that one. So they Yeah,

43:00

they kept doing a mock.

43:01

Draft with with your blues and your yellows and

43:03

your greens.

43:05

Oh yeah, that's hilarious. All

43:07

right, this has been a fun one. I want to encourage

43:10

everybody check out the next episode. We've got coming your

43:12

way this week, which is gonna be my conference call on Thursday.

43:15

We will package a portion of that

43:17

because it's a long one and uh, and that'll

43:19

be something you can listen to where we have over

43:21

one hundred media members on there firing questions

43:23

away. So a lot of draft talk on that one, and

43:26

uh, Lance and Bucky will kind of pick

43:28

it up next week from from

43:30

the combine and we'll have updates

43:32

all throughout the week at the NFL Scouting

43:34

Combine.

43:35

Oh forget, this is an NFL Plus. You

43:37

and I are breaking down the combine. Uh

43:39

oh yeah, Combine's gonna look like position by

43:41

day by day.

43:42

Yeah, no question. We've we already recorded

43:44

those, so those will be released on NFL Plus if you

43:46

have the app, check that out.

43:48

Spoiler, I hate doing this, but we

43:50

do have some day three offensive line

43:52

talk going on too.

43:53

So oh yeah, yeah, we

43:55

were preview and we're trying to get you guys excited

43:57

and Lance. Lance gave a five in

44:00

a dissertation on somebody and

44:02

then close close

44:04

it out with I think this guy could go like fifth

44:06

sixth round. You know, we

44:08

want people to watch the combine. We would

44:10

love for them to tune in. This is not helping the cost

44:13

here, but nonetheless check out the videos. I think

44:15

you'll enjoy that.

44:16

Trying to keep it for the last day. DJ. That's

44:18

all.

44:18

There you go. I love it again

44:21

in all sincerity. Thanks again for popping on with

44:23

me, man. It's always great to chop it up. Lance does

44:25

his work, does his homework. Be sure to follow

44:28

him and check him out. All his stuff on

44:30

NFL dot com and on social media is outstanding.

44:33

All right, that's it. That's it for today. We'll see

44:35

you next time right here on move the sticks.