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This is Cam Jordan on my podcast Off
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the Edge with your Boy Cam. I'm here sitting
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next to what I'm gonna deem
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as a legendary person.
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Uh.
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You know, I've had a pleasure of sitting down with a lot of people in
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this world. Here we are on media road during super
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Bowl Week and I'm sitting next to Easter Ray Us.
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I love doing podcasts because
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you get to know whole names. You know, like people
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go by you know what they want to be called.
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And here I am sitting on like it was Joey.
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Su joeysa Ray Joe Yes,
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yeah, like that's my government
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family name.
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I'll be looking down said, that's not what I know her
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as. I Yeah, I know you
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as actress and executive producer. You know, you
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know all the accolades that they have brought
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you fame and as well as putting
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your charisma and energy out there. You
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know, like, I see what you do. I
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salute you. But is this your first SHOOTOW week?
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Tell me about that. No.
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So, I've been at Super Bowl a couple of times.
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I want to say. My first one was in cold ass
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Minnesota. Man, when it was my
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god, it was so I was like I don't, but
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I was like out active.
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It was kind of fun because everybody's cold.
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It reminds me of sun Dance in that way,
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and that was like a nice
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little vibe.
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It was knowing it was. It was the
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lines were crazy and women still look phenomenal,
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like like the dresses were still were
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still thigh a.
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Huge situation going. I was like, I'm sure
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it's super Bow weekend.
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It was like twenty five degrees or so.
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But there was so much going on. It was hall of fun. And then I
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went to the Rams.
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Game, which you know, you're
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not a rookie, you were veted this.
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I'm a little bit. I'm like, yeah,
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you know, but.
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This is this is the most involved you've been in.
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You know, for sure we have like a v ra mine.
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My friend has a presence here and this
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has been.
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You're not a Chiefs fan or nine Fanny means.
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I was rooted for Detroit. Oh,
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I was twist.
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I was.
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I mean, you know in the playoffs, yes,
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but I'm I'm rooting for the other funny nine
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ers right.
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Now, Niner game just for California relations.
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Yeah, that's it.
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You know, I've got I've got some Bay
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friends, you know, I went. I went to Berkeley up north.
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You know, enemies. I want
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to stand first.
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I did not
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beautiful campus trash organization got
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it. I didn't know you
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were further like, you're like, I can't see
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your mascot the dancing tree, all.
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Right, I mean I'm not. I can't even defend the tree.
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Honestly.
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Yeah, that's tough.
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Know it was.
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I got better dance moves than the tree. Okay,
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cool? Cool? You know did you
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did you really? Like I heard you last night you were
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talking about, you know, dropped the the MVP award
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on your foot, that really happened, now, okay,
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okay, I was like, no, no,
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like low key that the trophy is heavy.
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No, I wouldn't have gone out there if I did, Like I'm very
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clumsy and I don't think I would have
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let's say, your heels on like it would have been
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like.
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No, like she got she got now she got the lebron feet,
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Like I know what that did?
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You?
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I mean, have you ever thought about, you know,
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your love for the game, clearly
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the shows that you helped create. Have
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you ever thought about an NFL centric show, you
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know, oh, take a baller's in a you
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know, on a real.
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Life feel like because Ballers Bollers was on in like
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the same time the Insecure West Oh
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the Rock got that.
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But I wouldn't be mad.
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I have a male perspective, It's true and what's
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from you know? He was all professional and I'm like, bring
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some, bring some like funny.
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I love the sports world and
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I would like.
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If theres a female GM, you would go crazy.
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Are you casting in it? Are we making the show
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right now?
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I mean the low key I felt like I'm trying to
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usher into the right direction.
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Are you going to be in it?
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Usher?
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Because he's get you
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got write this show.
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I would love an EP like you know I've
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got I've got one out there and it learned like that's
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what like when you do a group project
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on it. I love that one.
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Trust me. I have been on.
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I have been on the vanity side of EP credit and it's
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nice. But I've also been on the receiving side where
3:56
it's like you get all this money and you're not doing nothing.
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So that was me.
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That was okay, congratulations.
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I would love to be on like the work part of
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that.
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You know you you do.
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I'm willing to do the work.
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It's fine.
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I feel like if we didn't NFL show, you be
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an excellent consultant, and that's
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really like that you would earn your EP credit
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and use me.
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Don't just don't just use my name, use my knowledge.
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I got some stuff up here. Take
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you up on that. That was just my pitch to you.
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Okay.
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How close is it to like you know, you're talking about,
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you know, possibly created a TV show. How close is it to actually
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creating your own studio? I've seen, you know, guys like Anthony
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Mackie from from Louisiana to
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start one.
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Like yeah, you know how close somebody
4:37
comes to the land, like we've been ready And
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it's just I wanted to be in a very specific
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part of l A, l A. It's
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just there's not that that many opportunities,
4:47
so I have to get it while I can. So we're
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having a couple of conversations and we'll see.
4:50
But I love that. I want it, Like that's mine
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north Star.
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I love that wife. You's from from from
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so Cal. You know, we beet she from Pasadena,
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she dost bo but she's
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you know, I make fun of her like you're not really familiar.
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Thank you people from.
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La so you're from Altad, so
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let's not do it.
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You're from now, You're not.
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Absolutely, That's why people sacramental saying they're from
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the Bay, exactly saying they're
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from the Bay. I said, okay,
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cool.
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Actually I might have said that one, and then I was quickly
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correct.
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At the college, you're
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not.
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Nobody could tell me anything. That's all we had.
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Okay, how did you get here? So, like,
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you know, at football at
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thirteen years old, my dad was like, hey, I played
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football. You played football.
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Now.
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I was like, sure, dad, we're in the situation,
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this legacy thing, and it worked out well for me thirteen years
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into the NFL April Bowls to hit six Pro
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Bowls. I'm not saying I'm better, but like that's what the legacy
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is for, to for that legacy. Yeah,
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Like how did you go from content creator to kapon?
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Yeah?
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I just really wanted to do it and the Internet, Thank
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god the Internet came along, because this hard to break
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into this.
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I know, like hearing your dad like you kind
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of had a path. You knew what it looked like.
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I knew what it looked like on the television
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screen and in film, but it's hard
6:09
to get there when you don't have anybody guiding you
6:11
or to look to. So for
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me, it was just making stuff online and then
6:16
eventually getting the attention of.
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Oh you you like my smile, this mouths, Oh
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my gosh, I stopped playing.
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Oh yeah, that was the path. That's
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how I'm here. We love that.
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I'm all here for everybody getting there. They're
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just desserts. Give people flowers by the here.
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I agree, I love flowers.
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So so tell me about your prosecco.
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Via lo.
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Look we just we just had that way.
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You gotta sa can you say an Italian
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accent? Okay,
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I regret asking?
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Yeah, sorry, Italiano is not my I've
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been to Milan in Rome and you know, like
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even.
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All the places, I feel like you have a little bit in
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you. But yes, I love Italy percent
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that is my drink of choice.
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So Italian food topped your Let's let's talk. Let's
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talk be a rate and we can talk about.
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The military way. Wait wait,
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oh, I can't wait to have this conversation. But Vray
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is my prosecco. Like I'm a
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big persecco drinker. I associated
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with my best moments in life, and so
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I've been drinking it for so long and people,
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because of Insecure and other things that I've done, started
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drinking it, and I was like, Oh, if they're
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drinking it because of me, then I wanted to
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be from and so
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I made my own and I'm so excited
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by people are really rocking with it right now.
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You went to like the whole tasting.
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Oh my god, that was the best part. I just went to Italy
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tasted, you know, like had This
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has been like a two to three year process
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of trying to get it, you know, get
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it right, and to find the right partner and
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all those things. So I'm so satisfied
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that I have something where I'm like, oh, I won't get tired
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of this.
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This is my drink.
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So I'd say, I'm trying to be like you, but like I've
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got like in about two more years when my tequila
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goes and yehoe, I'm gonna hit you up about it
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like Jordan's coming
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out.
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But what's your Italian take? I need to know your Italian
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food sake?
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Oh yeah, let's talk about this right, and this in the pantheon
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that is a fat kid of loving food
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right all my life. Look forward to desserts,
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look forward to chiros. You know trestles,
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so clearly I'm a Mexican food lover.
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Mexican I live phenomenon.
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From Arizona, So top tier for me. Mexican
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food, then soul food, like
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I need the collar, I need them, and I'm gona judge
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you by your mac and cheese. I need fair, I need a
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hamhock, and I would like a good neck bone
8:29
every now and again. You know, if I can get
8:32
a turkey lag, I look forward to carnivals
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just for the turkey legs, you know.
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So second you lost
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me so quick at the Turkey Lake.
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Well yeah, I mean because you're not you're not
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talking about every day you can't eat I could
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eat every day, but you can eat soult food
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and turkey legs every day like Mexican food. I can't
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every day. Fist I could every day. I could
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eat Mexican food for life, could eat every
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day. No, I look forward to soul food. So that's my indulgence.
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Okay, if that's an indulgence.
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So we're talking about like there's indulgence foods
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and then there's you know, I can eat this every
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day every day.
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I can eat.
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Italian food every day because it runs the gamut and
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I actually Lasaiga
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is phenomen.
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Lasigna is top tier that
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it's a food cake. And then you go to Italy,
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so you say you love Italy Italy and you're like
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like, yeah, let me get that, let me get that tag over
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here, and they barely put any bowlonnaise on it, like
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I got like and ask you for more sauce.
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And the host Yeah past
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is the star out there, which I respect. I'm
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like, y'all made pasta. Yeah, tell
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me how to Actually I don't like the way you run it. I'm going
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back to America.
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Yeah, we gotta run everything now, we do everything
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in excess. But I'm not mad at.
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It, and I'm not taking I'm not taking Japanese like I'm
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never not gonna gonna take Italian food
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over Japanese food.
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Japanese food, no
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disagreement. Japanese food is number food
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for sure. Yeah, that's like three, that runs up
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my top three. Okay, we're back on board. You lost
9:54
man soft food in Turkey leg but back on food.
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Mexican food what exactly? That's
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what That's all I'm saying.
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So you know your connection with with la
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and making a point to build your brand there clearly
10:04
you said it was your north star. Just
10:07
because you come from somewhere doesn't mean you want to give back to that community.
10:09
Why is that so important for you?
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I mean, I still live there, so I
10:14
see, you know, what the
10:16
community needs are. I see like as
10:18
a community member, what I want to see,
10:21
and so it's just if I have.
10:22
The ability to do it, it's just like why
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not?
10:24
And I I know so many, so
10:27
many of my friends, so many and my family members are
10:29
still there, so they're constant conversations about
10:32
what we can do to help shape
10:34
the community because we're there and it's active.
10:36
So it's just kind of a why not situation
10:39
more than a why do it?
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Yeah, why wouldn't I do that?
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Yeah?
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Exactly?
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I love. I love like you know clearly, I'm
10:46
I'm from Arizona, but I'm in New Orleans
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and here we go like you know, like just because
10:51
I'm from Arizona means like I go back and I give back a
10:53
little bit. But I'm in New Orleans every day, so I know the
10:55
needs. It's different when you know the needsactly
10:58
exactly. I can't wait to get home and create my
11:00
my carbon footprint back home in Arizona.
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But every day what life. My kids
11:04
are from New Orleans, Like I want to impact something
11:06
where it's like a legacy build. You have New Orleans
11:08
kids five or four Magnolia
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baby.
11:11
My god, O snap, there are they gonna
11:13
have access? For sure?
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Hey? For sure? Yes,
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they're gonna be eight years old talking about Yeah. So anyway,
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my daddy, you
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as long as they do. I sound like t I, I'm good with it.
11:24
Daddy House, I'm like, you gotta go get
11:27
out of here.
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Man.
11:29
You so you been out here and uh, you know clearly
11:32
this week? Just how is that NFL
11:34
S fandom sort of crossed over? Is there an intersection
11:37
of oh girl, I love you from insecut
11:39
or for guys? Is there is it
11:41
such a fan girling for guys,
11:44
like from fan boys, fan
11:46
boys for a woman.
11:47
Boys for for this show,
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but they'll put it on her girl.
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They'll be like, I like my girl. And I was
11:52
like, yeah, man, I loved Insecure.
11:55
I mean you know, my girl made me watchually, but like I
11:57
was like, you have to.
12:00
I see the episode because the drum was I
12:04
but I appreciate the viewership anyway, Dudes
12:06
like really got into it because of you
12:08
know, the Lawrence character and they could
12:11
relate to I guess a
12:13
lot of the mails in the show, and I appreciate.
12:15
Yeah, the love has been been
12:17
great, But I'm really gonna noodle on
12:19
your NFL show.
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Or a Sports World show.
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Yeah exactly.
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Yeah, I'm not mad.
12:25
You can go from the GAM agent, but I just felt like
12:27
agent had already been done done, That's what
12:30
right, And so I was like, if you go GM now
12:33
you really you know you you boss you
12:35
you h and I see.
12:36
When this show comes out, I just don't want you to feel any way.
12:38
I will love having people have I love
12:41
having people.
12:41
This is crazy.
12:42
I shot my first podcast with me and my teammate
12:44
mark Ingram and it was like us but
12:46
we didn't have this.
12:47
Like this is audience
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too, that's just you know here and right
12:53
and this is this is legit.
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I'm smalling on another level, Like I got people.
12:58
Now you needed to drinks, Like if we drinks,
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I'm.
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Working on it. I'm working on someone is just
13:03
coming here with the blanco from Cam Jordan. You
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need you need a repo. I'm not gonna
13:07
do that. I'm aila connoisseur, like as
13:10
you have a love prosecco.
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What's what's the right one? Is it really a no?
13:15
Uh? For some for you? I enjoy
13:18
and yaloe at times, but uh, if
13:20
I want to know like the flavor and like really
13:22
go up from there, I started repo, have you been
13:24
to Mexico? Come on, I'm
13:26
from Arizona? Like all right, you know, No
13:28
Gallas is all of two hours away? Been in No Gala
13:31
so many times? Cabo can Coon I
13:33
needed to loom. I got up. I
13:35
got boy who owns who's building a hotel
13:38
right outside of Cabo? Uh?
13:39
And whatever.
13:40
I'm gonna mess up that name every time, so I'm not
13:42
gonna go for it. Yeah, yeah,
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I love I love traveling though, are you are huge
13:47
on traveling?
13:48
Big travel girl? Like last year I went
13:50
to probably the most countries I've ever been to.
13:52
And I just was like one favorite
13:54
one.
13:55
Yeah.
13:55
I went to agree to Athens
13:58
and that was that was just like a on the.
14:00
Map I was.
14:02
I was Athens and what's
14:06
and one of those other islands.
14:07
I haven't been to all the islands yet, but I'm gonna
14:09
make my way. But it was so random. The food
14:12
was fun.
14:12
I like to go real mediterran I'm
14:15
telling you that's another top
14:18
fiver.
14:19
I'm gonna say, out of Europe, Italy
14:22
and Mediterranean food like they
14:24
hold it down all other European
14:26
food.
14:27
I'm sorry anyway, pinchos
14:30
from Spain food.
14:31
I'm sorry because I
14:33
have it. I don't really know it was you wasn't impressed, Okay,
14:37
I just I don't want to Portugal. And everybody
14:39
was like, Portugal, that's the best food you
14:41
ever gonna have, and I was ready And
14:44
it's real.
14:44
It's reels up there too. Now I like to seafood.
14:47
Huh so where's yeah, where's your favorite spot? Like favorite,
14:49
like favorite spot to visit. We're gonna take Italy out there, because
14:51
clearly you're a Italian lover.
14:52
I went to. I mean, uh,
14:56
Mauricious, have you been there?
14:59
I don't even know you? Like Mauritius?
15:03
Where is that? Is that a country?
15:05
It's like, yes, it's name. It's in Africa, but it's
15:07
an island and it's absolutely gorgeous.
15:09
They have the most gorgeous people. The water
15:12
is amazing. And that was also. I just
15:14
wanted to fly Emirates for the first time, and I was like, where
15:16
does Emirates go? Let me tell you.
15:18
I was like, oh, where they got Mauritius, I have never
15:21
heard of this, and I.
15:21
Went that I'm not I'm not gonna lie
15:23
to you. I did Emirates on a honeymoon
15:26
and use all types of points. So he was gonna forced
15:28
class technically for the free steam. And when
15:30
I tell you, it changed my life.
15:33
I'm supposed to be a Southwest guy. I'm like, everybody's
15:35
first class on Southwest and here I am like,
15:39
but yeah, chef coming around, do you have any food?
15:41
Alga, don't do this. I'm
15:43
not ready to be all catered to in the air.
15:45
I've never recrited. Nothing has topped that
15:47
experience. I've had some great experience.
15:49
So I've believe
15:51
been to the Motherland twice, like I knocked off
15:53
what eyp?
15:55
I need to go?
15:56
Okay, yeah, we'll talk about it and
15:59
then you know, like it was great when
16:01
I felt I felt empowered going back. I walked
16:03
around, I'm like, my brother, how
16:05
about you?
16:06
Did they claim you claim me?
16:08
As you know? That's what I'm saying, my brother,
16:10
come here.
16:11
I'm just like that was my surprise.
16:14
That's why I was a little reticent to go to Egypt
16:16
because I was like, I don't donna claim me, you know,
16:18
but I'm from well,
16:20
my family's from West Africa.
16:21
They're from Senegal and I've been there. Pirates,
16:25
that is not that's the Mali.
16:27
So that was my bad. Okay.
16:31
I was like saying it was okay,
16:33
pirate tired, Come
16:35
on, I want I want you to go to another country.
16:38
I did Ghana. I went to crawl,
16:41
you know, like I've been called an achrom my whole life. And they were
16:43
like, welcome to a cross like that miss magical.
16:46
Yeah.
16:46
And the food was so good, people
16:49
so kind, West African food, warner, and
16:51
I love Ethiopian food. I don't know if you have that for sure.
16:53
Oh yeah, people think you're Ethiopian all
16:56
the time.
16:56
Oh my gosh. I just saw this.
16:58
Saw he's either Ethiopia or a
17:00
reaching and I'm like, I'm I'm like forty per
17:02
Nigeria.
17:03
Oh you must be disappointing people.
17:06
And I'm like, I'm yeah,
17:08
it has.
17:09
To be somewhere at any age, it has to.
17:10
Be Yeah, did you do it? Yeah? Already,
17:13
I'm Nigerian.
17:15
There's nothing that everybody Nigeria, everybody,
17:18
it can't be true.
17:19
I'm gonna have to, like I see ancestry in twenty
17:21
three and me and I'm like, maybe,
17:24
remember I have to go to the African ancestry one.
17:26
Like, yeah, everybody's not Nigerian. I'm sorry ancestry
17:28
everyone. I'm like, y'all gotta do better.
17:30
I mean, slavery in a part that I was real.
17:31
So like maybe I'm saying that, like they didn't do the additional
17:34
research. They were like, oh this is the port. Let's this
17:36
is the port they clearly came to. Yeah, I
17:39
mean that might be true.
17:41
No offense in Nigerians. I'm sure people want
17:43
to claim you.
17:44
So I mean, let's let's round this back out. You know,
17:46
just just thinking about things
17:49
that I that I've done. Maybe we've been similar
17:51
to I've never been on the on the on
17:53
the cover of a magazine and you like you're
17:56
not like I've been on like a football one. I'm
17:59
taking that out of there, Like I want I went beyond
18:01
that, you know, like in
18:04
terms of my vainness, right, I'm like,
18:06
I am too handsome not to be on a you
18:08
know, right, just claim
18:10
speaking to existence. So you've been on You've
18:13
been on the Time magazine cover and like
18:15
did that even rank on your boocket list.
18:17
What do you mean? I didn't even know that was possible
18:19
for me. Honestly. My publicist hit me up.
18:22
She was hyper ventilating so excited,
18:24
like I secured
18:26
this, and I was like, it just didn't
18:28
register the time because I was just like, you.
18:30
Have to be really to me. It's going to
18:32
be important to me on time.
18:34
And we did it for like Barbie, and I was like, oh, Barbie's
18:36
gonna be a significant more moment
18:38
and that's really that has nothing to do
18:41
with me. That's like Margo and Greta's movie.
18:43
So I but we love the flair that you
18:46
introduced in the movie. But yeah, thank you appreciate
18:48
that.
18:49
But so then to get on a second time cover
18:51
with just me, I was like, is this like
18:54
why?
18:55
You know why? So it was a huge
18:57
honor. And my dad doesn't really
18:59
comment anything I do, like he occasionally
19:02
tapping and be like okay, good good job,
19:05
but time he was he was all up
19:07
on my line.
19:07
Was that was?
19:08
That?
19:08
Was?
19:09
That was your moment with Pops?
19:10
For sure?
19:10
You are proud of.
19:11
Me, Yes, exactly, you love
19:13
me? Thank you?
19:16
I feel that one. Yeah, there's been some
19:17
some cool moments in my NFL career and
19:20
like maybe maybe the first Pro
19:22
Bowl was like the first time I felt that he like
19:25
I had done him justice.
19:25
You know, competitive, not at all, not at all.
19:28
He was so over yeah,
19:30
minus making me play football, like he was so
19:33
over the computer. Yeah. I was a basketball
19:35
guy, you know, like everybody wanted to hoop, everybody
19:37
wanted all that. And like at thirteen, I was probably
19:39
like five seven, one hundred and ninety five
19:41
pounds, a little fat kids, you know, like
19:44
hooping like little butterball out there, Like come on,
19:46
I was. I was getting it in and he was like, your
19:49
frame is going to change drastically. You're
19:51
going to play football, Like not Dad Hooper dreams
19:54
me living it now. And he's like, yeah,
19:56
so anyways, here's your pads, here's your helmet.
19:59
And I was like, I was like, so, you know, pouted that
20:02
first. Like a couple of weeks, game comes around. I'm sitting
20:04
on the bench and I've never sat on the bench a day in my life, and
20:06
so I'm sitting on the bench. I'm like, I mean, no,
20:08
this gotta change. And so then I turned
20:10
up and I really enjoyed, like I've always wrestled.
20:12
I got an older brother. I was got beat up by
20:16
he did. He did a little bit until he broke something in his
20:18
foot and it was like, I'm out, that's the hard thing. I'm like,
20:20
but I broke something and I embraced it. I was like, I love the
20:22
pain, and that's how you knew I was a sick. Oh. So
20:25
you know from there, football has been nothing but awesome.
20:27
That is hard to watch. Honestly.
20:29
Anytime I'm watching and I see y'all get
20:31
injured, I'm just like, how are they gonna.
20:33
Come back from this?
20:34
Yeah? Knocking wood, Like we never
20:36
prayed for injuries, but I love those hits crazy
20:38
that they were like like, oh, that needs to
20:40
be a flag. I'm like being soft this. I'm
20:43
like, right here, this is what we're made
20:45
of.
20:45
That's different, different, different.
20:48
Yeah, gotta be like you gotta and like it lived
20:50
this life this past season like tour,
20:53
a cinismosis in my ankle and something
20:55
else, and I like him, you're going down. I was like, who's
20:57
going down? I wrap this up.
20:59
Let's ride because y'all learn new body parts,
21:01
you know, when you get injured, and that's crazy, like
21:03
I've never heard of that in my life.
21:05
And I don't need to.
21:05
Yeah, I don't need to have that. Yeah, that part
21:08
of me. Yeah, we taped it up and I was like, it's
21:10
not getting there. I was like, I was like, I'm pretty sure it's high
21:12
kol sprain, but it's not. I feel like it's not getting
21:14
there.
21:15
I've never broken a bone in my life, Okay,
21:18
okay, and so like you
21:21
bringing up me saying dropping that trophy
21:23
on my foot, I really would have been out, you know what I'm saying, Like
21:25
I would have not survived that.
21:26
That could you could have been one of our top
21:29
tier receivers or DB's like
21:32
they get real diva.
21:33
Ish, don't get protected.
21:35
Yeah, exactly, like a quarterback like rules
21:37
now, like if you hit a quarterback, like they like, stop
21:39
the game, make sure he's okay, pat him on the
21:41
back, give him some warm milk, and like trying renal bedtime
21:43
story. It's real cute. Yeah, it's
21:46
real cute. I'm like, damn, he's soft.
21:47
You know, he carries the game.
21:49
That's what they say. Yes, just what they say. Is there anybody
21:51
you're looking forward to working with in the future.
21:53
Anybody I'm looking forward to working with?
21:55
Yeah, not that I'll be waiting on my phone
21:57
waiting for the call like.
22:00
That that's not to be secured that.
22:03
I really want to work with
22:05
Viola Davis and Denzel
22:07
Washington, like I just
22:09
have to, Like they are the
22:12
the pinnacle of I think representation
22:14
for sure, yes, and just like not only
22:17
talent generally, but of course
22:19
for us black talent. Like looking looking
22:22
at them and all that they have accomplished and all and
22:24
violence fairly new, especially compared
22:26
to Denzel.
22:27
But has just made.
22:29
Sex fame height.
22:31
She she's been working forever, but
22:33
like Denzel has had it since
22:35
like I've been out. She's
22:38
just getting her her showers in a major
22:40
way. But yeah, I would love to
22:43
just find a way to work with them.
22:44
Violent. When she did that Little Warrior, The Warriors
22:47
the Woman King, whoa damn
22:49
goodness.
22:50
I love that she was able to play a role
22:52
like that, you know what I'm saying, Like and it was
22:54
a successful movie and she was
22:56
so phenomenal.
22:58
So yeah, well man, that's dope.
23:00
I hope that happens for you.
23:01
Thank you.
23:02
I appreciate you tapping in with the pod for
23:04
for all that you are in the in the world
23:07
and the intersectionality of you coming over to this football
23:09
world. I appreciate you.
23:10
I appreciate you. Thank you so much for having me.
23:29
Kearvi and I are so excited and
23:31
just hype to get into this interview. We've been sort
23:33
of chatting like little kids backstage because
23:35
we remember when we got the call that said we were doing
23:37
this interview, So we were imagining what
23:40
was it like for each of you when you
23:42
got the call that said you're going to be performing
23:44
in the pregame for the Super Bowl. It's the first
23:46
time for each of you. MIT's rebell start with you.
23:49
Well, when I got the call from my manager, Justin
23:51
McIntosh, he said, I
23:54
got an offer for you.
23:54
I said, okay, what is it?
23:55
He said, no, I can't tell you until Rex gets on
23:57
the phone with you. Rex Atlanta's my boyfriend.
24:00
And I said, well, that's very strange. And
24:02
I said, okay, he's sitting around here.
24:04
What is it.
24:05
Well, You've got an offer saying the national anthem at
24:07
the Super Bowl And I said well,
24:09
and Rex said.
24:09
She'll do it.
24:11
So where does she have to be in
24:13
what time that?
24:15
And I'm like, well, did you know you're going to do it? So
24:18
he was very excited and I got excited.
24:20
But in that two seconds,
24:22
you know, you're thinking, what am I going to wear? What
24:24
is it gonna entail? What do I have to
24:26
do to be prepared? So no,
24:29
he entered for me, and so yeah, here I am.
24:33
Yes.
24:34
I don't remember what I was doing or
24:36
where I was because that's just how my memory works.
24:40
So I just remember in the moment.
24:42
I you know, my managers had been talking to me
24:44
about it for a while and the
24:46
possibility of doing it, and then we finally got the call
24:48
that was like, oh my gosh, you're going to do it. And I remember
24:51
a similar thing immediately in the moment. I
24:53
was like, I'm nervous right now for something
24:55
that doesn't happen until February. I was just
24:57
like it was November and I was like, oh my god, what
24:59
am I going to do?
25:00
There?
25:00
Like you have months to prepare, and yeah, you'll be nervous.
25:04
You know, it'd been.
25:05
Better that you just said would you do it last week?
25:07
Right?
25:07
Right?
25:07
Exactly right right, and I can just go on the moment.
25:10
Yeah, I
25:12
think, yeah, the anticipation, but
25:16
I was excited.
25:17
I was very excited.
25:18
You brought up you brought up outfits, and I was like, I
25:20
don't have to worry about this. I just grabbed clothes.
25:24
You have
25:27
all of these sets just in your closet
25:29
sets. I got it on the closing Okay.
25:31
Cool, Only it's only
25:34
post What about the when the call came for you?
25:36
I thought it was a meme.
25:38
No, but no, it absolutely wasn't.
25:40
And I was like, all right, yeah, yeah,
25:43
I was like, same
25:46
thing, same thing, so nervous. I
25:48
wish you know last week, would
25:50
you have done it last week?
25:51
Yeah?
25:51
Absolutely, I already did it.
25:53
But yeah, it's uh, you don't
25:55
even really like now that
25:57
it's actually like happening.
25:59
It's like.
26:01
I wasn't nervous until two
26:03
days ago.
26:04
Now it's right, you're right.
26:05
So it just because I initially I was like, you
26:07
might want to double check that. I'm
26:11
like cool to do it, but I'm I'm
26:13
very honored and very excited to do it, and not
26:15
nervous one bit.
26:23
In terms of, like, you know, being a player, I've always been like, all right,
26:25
let's get the national anthem over so I can go right right.
26:28
But the older the older
26:30
I get like, I'm it's changed
26:33
now, I'm like I enjoy the theatrics
26:35
of it all. I'm like, you know, the fighter plane flies
26:37
of national anthem. So now I'm
26:39
like locked in. I'm like, yep, this
26:41
is my time I start
26:44
that off. But like you know, now I'm starting to listen to
26:46
them. I'm going back and I'm listening to everythings. So listening
26:48
to these national anthems, you realize that Whinnie Houston
26:50
is widely recognized. Right the
26:52
top the greatest national
26:54
anthem performance of all time?
26:57
In ten seconds, give us your two top
26:59
nap and the performances.
27:00
Yeah, if you have to,
27:03
or even.
27:04
Yeah, my favorite ones, well, Whitney,
27:07
I love Chrisple, he love
27:09
the way Gareth
27:12
Kelly Clarkson, O, Lady
27:14
Gaga love that.
27:20
You know.
27:21
You know, it's a real honor.
27:24
But it's a lot of stress because of the people who have
27:26
gone before you. You gotta make them
27:28
proud. That's fair love stress. We're
27:30
not gonna talk about it.
27:31
Yeah, we
27:33
hope that by the end of this you guys will feel a lot less.
27:37
Therapy said, yes,
27:40
we all need to.
27:43
That is You're right, He's happy, right, Andrew?
27:45
What about for you?
27:47
I mean, Whitney, you know, I mean that's definitely the
27:50
top. I also, uh
27:54
right, just at the super Bowl. Yeah,
27:57
definitely Whitney. Uh, Chris
28:00
Apleton to a huge fan, I think he's amazing.
28:02
Beyonce was amazing. So yeah,
28:04
yeah, those are definitely my favorites, top favorites.
28:06
I also, I just got to throw it in and I'm sorry.
28:09
I also heard it was not at the super Bowl, but
28:11
Jasmine Sullivan did. Yeah,
28:13
lift every voice to see it. She is like
28:16
your favorite singer's favorites. She's amazing.
28:18
So everything she does inspires me.
28:20
So that's my favorite, regardless of you, for
28:22
sure.
28:23
Yeah. Whitney
28:26
and Ribot, Yeah, well
28:29
playing I
28:34
love that.
28:35
I heard Zach Wilde do it.
28:38
Wow.
28:40
Now everyone's like it was It was
28:42
really really It's just like a little segment of this
28:44
solo, but it was really well
28:47
appreciated.
28:47
It like ripping.
28:51
Yes, it is something about me going
28:53
up. I feel like I'm going up mentally as well, like
28:55
you know, appreciate.
28:58
This is you got
29:00
here, Well,
29:03
we're there and we're examining things. We know
29:06
how much this this not ways
29:09
on you guys, but you carry it with so much pride
29:11
when you think of the audience and how they
29:13
receive it. This this is one of
29:15
those moments where everyone's like it's starting right
29:19
post. What do you want the audience to feel
29:21
from your performance?
29:23
I don't know. I'm
29:27
know, happy, excited, get everybody
29:29
ready to go.
29:30
I don't know.
29:30
I'm I kind of
29:33
went with that's
29:35
pretty stripped back. So
29:37
it's just kind of kind of me
29:39
singing a song. So
29:42
it's just a song everyone knows and the song everyone
29:45
loves. And I don't know. I
29:47
don't want to like personal, I guess
29:49
or you know, whatever, because we
29:52
know.
29:53
I'm not the best singer, but I don't
29:55
know who knows that. Who's Yeah,
30:05
I get what I hear you.
30:06
I hear you, but
30:11
I guess heart
30:13
felt, heartfelt, and really just because
30:16
I care, that's.
30:19
The most important thing to me.
30:21
Yeah, I mean, that's a fantastic answer.
30:23
I care, you know.
30:24
So I think I think what I want
30:26
people to you know. I mean, this particular
30:28
song, you know, is definitely from
30:32
from the archives right of our culture and our
30:34
ancestors, and I think it's really you
30:36
know, obviously we hear the word representation used
30:38
a lot, but I think it is important, you know, And I think
30:41
I think what I want people to feel for me spiritually,
30:44
I want people to feel God that's that's what every
30:46
performance, you know, that's you know, I want people to
30:48
feel and whatever that means for them right a moment,
30:50
you know, and and I
30:52
want people to feel, you
30:55
know, like obviously I'm
30:57
not unaware that there are split opinions
30:59
and how people start about me singing this song,
31:02
but you know, I would like people to kind
31:05
of move those things from their heart and really
31:07
just take a moment to pause and to just to choose
31:10
to choose love and to choose togetherness in the moment, because
31:12
you can. I think you can choose peace, or you can choose
31:15
turmoil or stress or anxiety. And
31:17
so I think if people allow you know,
31:19
themselves to be quiet and allow the spirit to speak,
31:21
allowed the moment to speak, then I think we'll have a
31:24
really beautiful moment of you know, togetherness
31:26
and love those things.
31:27
So I love that we're
31:29
not for you, Reba, what do you want the audience
31:31
to feel?
31:32
Informant?
31:33
There's a lot of dudes.
31:34
Yeah, there's a lot of separation, there's
31:37
a lot of different opinions. But
31:39
when we step up and sing these
31:41
songs, let's kind of forget all
31:43
that crap. Let's join together
31:46
and be grateful and thankful, thankful
31:48
for all the people who have done what they have
31:51
done to ensure our peace, to ensure
31:53
our freedom. Let's join
31:55
together on something. And when is a
31:57
better time than at the super Bowl with
32:00
three vocalists getting out there baron
32:02
or heart and her soul and singing
32:04
our little hearts out.
32:06
Yeah, it's true, man, that makes that makes
32:08
a lot of sense. Reaba
32:10
for you.
32:12
I'm just gonna keep it real, right, I.
32:16
Knew back and tied because of the TV show.
32:18
Right, My mom's favorite TV show was
32:21
always on, you know, and in that time, you're
32:23
still always on. So
32:26
growing up there it was like fresh frits.
32:27
It was our show.
32:29
We're watching you know, you're catching both vibes there
32:32
spanning multiple generations, Like how
32:34
does how does that make you feel? Or to have
32:36
a fan base that does truly span multiple
32:40
generations? Like my mom has attachment, I have attachment.
32:43
I can't.
32:44
Kids will probably throw on a song one day,
32:45
And how does it make you
32:47
feel to have that? What does it mean
32:50
to you to have a fan base that spans
32:52
multiple generations?
32:53
Very grateful, very thankful, very
32:55
appreciative. Somebody
32:57
said, what's your fan base? Age?
32:59
Just two to eighty two.
33:01
I guess there you go.
33:03
You know, this is a full circle
33:05
for me singing the national anthem. I
33:07
got my start singing the national anthem in nineteen
33:09
seventy four. Fifty years
33:11
later, that was at the National Finals
33:14
Rodeo. Here we are at the super Bowl
33:17
and National Finals Rodeo is kind of the super
33:19
Bowl for the Rodeo, and
33:21
so here I am so honored, so
33:24
grateful to get to sing the national
33:26
anthem at the super Bowl. So it's
33:29
it's been a lot of years, fifty
33:32
and I am just beyond grateful.
33:34
Yeah, it's a blessing deal.
33:36
Yeah big.
33:37
I am not taking it for granted.
33:39
Yeah, it's crazy.
33:40
You know, Post earlier you said how it's like it's
33:42
just me singing a song. It's stripping
33:44
it down all that, And then I think of the
33:48
lift every voice and singing the national anthem, and I think
33:50
for the two of you, it's it's making it your own
33:52
right, just like Post is talking about America
33:55
is beautiful. How
33:57
have you navigated that pressure of
33:59
me at your own but being true to
34:01
the song that everybody loves in a moment
34:04
like this, And I'll start with you, Well.
34:06
When everybody sing along with right, So if
34:08
I do a little, you know, everybody's
34:12
gonna welcome. She's gonna be finished here in a minute night.
34:18
Part is. I can't do that.
34:23
With it, but you know I want everybody to sing
34:25
along, enjoy it, not be taken
34:28
out of the moment. When she did that, where's
34:31
she going with this? And you know it's
34:33
everybody's saying how long is it gonna be? Is it gonna
34:36
be a fast one? Is gonna be slow? And
34:38
I thought it would be kind of funny. Started out real slow
34:40
and they're chance.
34:44
Keep it on their toes emotions.
34:46
That's what the artist.
34:49
Started off.
34:50
Just bring that all out.
34:53
Started off,
35:02
there's over unders on, over
35:05
unders on.
35:06
Mind this is a quick
35:08
chance to make some money.
35:13
Andrew you you talked a little bit about it, just
35:15
knowing the significance of the historical relevance,
35:18
especially for the back community.
35:19
This has been a lot of fun.
35:24
How have you navigated really thinking about
35:26
how you want to attack this performance?
35:29
Uh?
35:30
Well, you know it was a partnership actually, so Adam
35:32
Blackstone did the music for it. Yeah,
35:34
he's so amazing, you know, so it's
35:36
so funny actually.
35:37
Him and I called him.
35:38
I was like, I was like, we need to pray before we put
35:40
this together. He was like all right, cool, and I was
35:42
like, so let's do it. And so I've
35:44
just navigated by, you know, like just
35:48
I think like you said, I you
35:50
know, for me, it's
35:53
reflective, contemplative, you know what I mean. For
35:55
me, A lot of things are worship. You know, I say that a
35:57
lot right, redundant but thank
36:01
you, Yeah, repeating
36:04
theirs repeating, but
36:07
no, so that that's that's kind of how I'm
36:09
approaching it, you know what I mean. I'm sort of just you
36:11
know, and like she said, I want everybody to join in,
36:14
not just in the words, but also in the spirit, you
36:17
know what I mean. So that's kind of just
36:19
yeah, just delivering the song and the words.
36:21
You know, I don't want to I don't want to do
36:24
too much or too little, basket. I don't want to overthink it, right,
36:26
I mean like I want to be to the moment.
36:28
You know, you have to be true to yourself. Yeah,
36:30
it seems like, you know, the inspiring and uplifting
36:32
is like clearly what has made.
36:34
You you especially.
36:40
Iconics on that.
36:44
So now it feels like it's like.
36:47
What does performing a song like
36:49
lift every voice. You sort of alluded
36:52
to it, but what does it like really truly mean for you
36:54
guys for a stage anyways?
36:56
Uh?
36:56
I think for me, the first
36:58
thing that comes to mind is like a genesis, right,
37:00
you know, at least for this period in this time,
37:03
not a genesis for the people who came before us.
37:05
Like she said, she talked about honoring the people
37:07
who fought and the people who actually lost their lives
37:09
and who you know, not to sing
37:12
the song, to speak these words, to live
37:14
their lives, you know. I think it's I think it's
37:16
we don't we shouldn't lose sight of that, you know what I
37:18
mean, as we you know, move forward
37:20
into the future. But it also feels like a genesis
37:22
because it's really exciting. This song has only been sung
37:25
three times at the Super Bowl, the first time vy Alicia
37:27
Keys untelevised second time
37:29
by the amazing both of them amazing women sheryly
37:31
Ralph last year, who is also my birthday twin.
37:35
Yeah, I know it's kind of kind of funny, but yeah,
37:38
so I think to be able to step into their shoes
37:40
and to honor these women and honor the people
37:42
who came before me is amazing,
37:44
But it feels like a genesis in the sense that I
37:46
really, truly do look forward to a
37:49
future when it's less of a conversation
37:52
to sing the song just is a normal
37:54
space where all of our kids, you know
37:56
what I mean. It's it's very much a part of their pantheon
37:59
of music when they go to a sporting event or
38:02
you know, to an award show or whatever. It's it's very
38:04
normal for them to hear these words and these
38:07
different songs that represent a multitude of people,
38:09
you know, because that's what we look like, you know what I
38:11
mean, right, Representation
38:14
is key always.
38:32
What I love about the Super Bowl on this stage
38:35
is that it is a celebration, of course,
38:37
of the two teams that are on the field, but also a
38:39
celebration of where culture
38:41
and music and sports all come together.
38:43
I mean, no better representation than Post right now in his
38:46
Dallas Cowboys jacket and boo and
38:48
booth.
38:49
Off camera, it was.
38:51
You and Posts riffing off each other
38:53
because you know, you had some questions for Posts about his fandom
38:56
too.
38:56
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to know, like, you know, there's
38:59
this there's so many and he's like, you're a Cowboys
39:01
guy throwing through, through and through,
39:05
you know. But like I know Travis Kelsey and we've talked
39:07
about it after Super Bowl. He was like, yeah, man,
39:09
that post alone you know.
39:10
He got me and that
39:13
is that Your trampas amazing.
39:15
So I
39:18
was like, like, couldn't let itu slide. We were working out
39:20
in Florida, whatever it is. I'm like, nope, run
39:22
that back. So like you guys were playing what beer
39:25
palmers were playing? And I
39:27
want this to be known. They're
39:30
they're fine players on
39:32
the beer table. Great
39:34
guys, great guys, fine
39:37
players.
39:39
I did notice a couple of elbow indiscretions,
39:44
but I am right. So I
39:47
don't know how how he got.
39:48
There, but the tattoo artist was there there.
39:51
He was there, sitting in the corner. And
39:55
so I was like, if if you'all beat me, I
39:58
will get this to the
40:01
Cowboys.
40:02
One is bigger?
40:03
Okay, can.
40:05
Cowboys is where Cowboys is here
40:07
on the heart shoulder? Well, no, ye, two
40:11
hearts, double hearts.
40:14
And that one where's where's where's uh? It's
40:16
right here? Yes, nice
40:19
and Todd.
40:23
We got a shot.
40:27
He's into it. Don't take forever, you
40:29
take your time.
40:30
Well, I just want them to like, let me in.
40:35
We'll do it later.
40:35
We'll do it later. We're doing later, but we know it's there.
40:38
Yes, amazing.
40:41
Yeah, so uh you again,
40:44
this is my follow up question that I have to because again
40:46
Dallas Cowboys, I knew about the story which with Travis
40:49
into that and then you know you got you
40:51
got my guy Todd Graves and he's in the
40:53
partnershop with Raisin Canes. Yeah, we
40:55
have a partnership with Raises. And
40:57
then I have more follow up for that. Anyways, I'm going to
40:59
rally to where you need to be Canes
41:05
ever since well.
41:06
I eat like I'm twelve, same so
41:09
I love Chicky ten days.
41:13
So naturally,
41:16
yeah, I had Canes playing
41:19
one time. I was playing football. I've
41:21
played when I was a kid, and
41:24
my mom said, let's try this new spot and it was
41:26
Canes and I have everybody know I was. I was the
41:28
first guy ever, not
41:31
ever, ever,
41:36
first guy that I knew. And
41:38
I started putting everybody on knes because everybody
41:40
go get Chick fil A before the game and that stuff, and
41:42
I was like, try this spot. Yeah, and
41:44
so that's when it started. And
41:47
then I met Todd at
41:49
a festival and you're like, let's do He's
41:52
the best great almost cussed, but.
41:58
And we just said, let's do something cool.
41:59
So we've built two. We built one. I live in Utah,
42:02
so we built one there, and
42:04
then we built one in Dallas, and you drive through a big
42:06
Cowboys star.
42:08
By the way, the Dallas College cheerleaders were there at the open.
42:11
It was like a big It was a big it
42:13
was awesome.
42:14
Which no, no, no, we're going to talk
42:16
about this Cowboys. You
42:18
know you have a phenomenal situation
42:20
with with raising canes, but we
42:22
know we're raising canes originated, right, So
42:24
here we got from l s U which isn't batanuge
42:27
Louisiana, right, Todd Grave. So
42:29
I'm just thinking you have a huge affection
42:31
for chicken strips. Okay, we
42:34
naturally starts and Louisiana
42:36
seems like which I feel like a natural progression
42:38
would be we undersid moon
42:41
silver. Wow me,
42:44
No, it's not possible. Off the table. Okay,
42:46
Okay, no, I watch it. Okay,
42:48
I watched.
42:49
I mean, my brother is a Saints fan, so
42:52
we'll take yeah, we'll try. Yeah,
42:54
yeah, that's a
42:57
little bit.
42:57
You should hear him from his room.
43:01
Thank you.
43:02
All so much for sitting down with us. This is been
43:04
awesome. We can't wait to watch it hit the stage. It's
43:06
gonna be phenomenal. I already have chills.
43:07
It's gonna be great. Thank you.
43:09
Can we get some chicken stripped please?
43:14
Yeah?
43:14
It is.
44:00
A Stramet
44:26
Deep Tramp
44:29
Deep and
44:34
keep contract trust
44:37
Deep batram the
44:39
Tramp
44:42
Tru
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