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Issa Rae's Time Magazine Moment Plus Super Bowl Pregame Singers Reflect on Lifetime Opportunity

Issa Rae's Time Magazine Moment Plus Super Bowl Pregame Singers Reflect on Lifetime Opportunity

Released Sunday, 11th February 2024
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Issa Rae's Time Magazine Moment Plus Super Bowl Pregame Singers Reflect on Lifetime Opportunity

Issa Rae's Time Magazine Moment Plus Super Bowl Pregame Singers Reflect on Lifetime Opportunity

Sunday, 11th February 2024
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0:04

This is Cam Jordan on my podcast Off

0:07

the Edge with your Boy Cam. I'm here sitting

0:09

next to what I'm gonna deem

0:11

as a legendary person.

0:13

Uh.

0:14

You know, I've had a pleasure of sitting down with a lot of people in

0:16

this world. Here we are on media road during super

0:18

Bowl Week and I'm sitting next to Easter Ray Us.

0:21

I love doing podcasts because

0:23

you get to know whole names. You know, like people

0:25

go by you know what they want to be called.

0:27

And here I am sitting on like it was Joey.

0:29

Su joeysa Ray Joe Yes,

0:32

yeah, like that's my government

0:34

family name.

0:36

I'll be looking down said, that's not what I know her

0:38

as. I Yeah, I know you

0:41

as actress and executive producer. You know, you

0:43

know all the accolades that they have brought

0:45

you fame and as well as putting

0:47

your charisma and energy out there. You

0:49

know, like, I see what you do. I

0:52

salute you. But is this your first SHOOTOW week?

0:54

Tell me about that. No.

0:55

So, I've been at Super Bowl a couple of times.

0:57

I want to say. My first one was in cold ass

0:59

Minnesota. Man, when it was my

1:01

god, it was so I was like I don't, but

1:03

I was like out active.

1:05

It was kind of fun because everybody's cold.

1:08

It reminds me of sun Dance in that way,

1:10

and that was like a nice

1:12

little vibe.

1:12

It was knowing it was. It was the

1:15

lines were crazy and women still look phenomenal,

1:17

like like the dresses were still were

1:19

still thigh a.

1:21

Huge situation going. I was like, I'm sure

1:23

it's super Bow weekend.

1:24

It was like twenty five degrees or so.

1:27

But there was so much going on. It was hall of fun. And then I

1:29

went to the Rams.

1:30

Game, which you know, you're

1:33

not a rookie, you were veted this.

1:34

I'm a little bit. I'm like, yeah,

1:37

you know, but.

1:38

This is this is the most involved you've been in.

1:40

You know, for sure we have like a v ra mine.

1:42

My friend has a presence here and this

1:45

has been.

1:45

You're not a Chiefs fan or nine Fanny means.

1:48

I was rooted for Detroit. Oh,

1:50

I was twist.

1:51

I was.

1:52

I mean, you know in the playoffs, yes,

1:55

but I'm I'm rooting for the other funny nine

1:57

ers right.

1:58

Now, Niner game just for California relations.

2:00

Yeah, that's it.

2:01

You know, I've got I've got some Bay

2:03

friends, you know, I went. I went to Berkeley up north.

2:06

You know, enemies. I want

2:08

to stand first.

2:13

I did not

2:15

beautiful campus trash organization got

2:17

it. I didn't know you

2:19

were further like, you're like, I can't see

2:21

your mascot the dancing tree, all.

2:23

Right, I mean I'm not. I can't even defend the tree.

2:25

Honestly.

2:26

Yeah, that's tough.

2:27

Know it was.

2:28

I got better dance moves than the tree. Okay,

2:31

cool? Cool? You know did you

2:33

did you really? Like I heard you last night you were

2:35

talking about, you know, dropped the the MVP award

2:37

on your foot, that really happened, now, okay,

2:40

okay, I was like, no, no,

2:43

like low key that the trophy is heavy.

2:45

No, I wouldn't have gone out there if I did, Like I'm very

2:47

clumsy and I don't think I would have

2:50

let's say, your heels on like it would have been

2:53

like.

2:53

No, like she got she got now she got the lebron feet,

2:55

Like I know what that did?

2:56

You?

3:00

I mean, have you ever thought about, you know,

3:02

your love for the game, clearly

3:05

the shows that you helped create. Have

3:07

you ever thought about an NFL centric show, you

3:09

know, oh, take a baller's in a you

3:11

know, on a real.

3:12

Life feel like because Ballers Bollers was on in like

3:14

the same time the Insecure West Oh

3:16

the Rock got that.

3:17

But I wouldn't be mad.

3:18

I have a male perspective, It's true and what's

3:20

from you know? He was all professional and I'm like, bring

3:22

some, bring some like funny.

3:24

I love the sports world and

3:26

I would like.

3:27

If theres a female GM, you would go crazy.

3:30

Are you casting in it? Are we making the show

3:32

right now?

3:32

I mean the low key I felt like I'm trying to

3:34

usher into the right direction.

3:35

Are you going to be in it?

3:37

Usher?

3:37

Because he's get you

3:40

got write this show.

3:42

I would love an EP like you know I've

3:45

got I've got one out there and it learned like that's

3:47

what like when you do a group project

3:50

on it. I love that one.

3:51

Trust me. I have been on.

3:52

I have been on the vanity side of EP credit and it's

3:54

nice. But I've also been on the receiving side where

3:56

it's like you get all this money and you're not doing nothing.

3:59

So that was me.

4:00

That was okay, congratulations.

4:02

I would love to be on like the work part of

4:04

that.

4:05

You know you you do.

4:08

I'm willing to do the work.

4:09

It's fine.

4:09

I feel like if we didn't NFL show, you be

4:11

an excellent consultant, and that's

4:13

really like that you would earn your EP credit

4:16

and use me.

4:17

Don't just don't just use my name, use my knowledge.

4:19

I got some stuff up here. Take

4:22

you up on that. That was just my pitch to you.

4:24

Okay.

4:25

How close is it to like you know, you're talking about,

4:27

you know, possibly created a TV show. How close is it to actually

4:29

creating your own studio? I've seen, you know, guys like Anthony

4:32

Mackie from from Louisiana to

4:34

start one.

4:34

Like yeah, you know how close somebody

4:37

comes to the land, like we've been ready And

4:39

it's just I wanted to be in a very specific

4:41

part of l A, l A. It's

4:44

just there's not that that many opportunities,

4:47

so I have to get it while I can. So we're

4:49

having a couple of conversations and we'll see.

4:50

But I love that. I want it, Like that's mine

4:53

north Star.

4:54

I love that wife. You's from from from

4:56

so Cal. You know, we beet she from Pasadena,

4:58

she dost bo but she's

5:03

you know, I make fun of her like you're not really familiar.

5:05

Thank you people from.

5:07

La so you're from Altad, so

5:10

let's not do it.

5:12

You're from now, You're not.

5:14

Absolutely, That's why people sacramental saying they're from

5:16

the Bay, exactly saying they're

5:18

from the Bay. I said, okay,

5:22

cool.

5:22

Actually I might have said that one, and then I was quickly

5:24

correct.

5:25

At the college, you're

5:28

not.

5:30

Nobody could tell me anything. That's all we had.

5:32

Okay, how did you get here? So, like,

5:34

you know, at football at

5:37

thirteen years old, my dad was like, hey, I played

5:39

football. You played football.

5:40

Now.

5:40

I was like, sure, dad, we're in the situation,

5:43

this legacy thing, and it worked out well for me thirteen years

5:45

into the NFL April Bowls to hit six Pro

5:47

Bowls. I'm not saying I'm better, but like that's what the legacy

5:49

is for, to for that legacy. Yeah,

5:52

Like how did you go from content creator to kapon?

5:56

Yeah?

5:56

I just really wanted to do it and the Internet, Thank

5:58

god the Internet came along, because this hard to break

6:00

into this.

6:01

I know, like hearing your dad like you kind

6:03

of had a path. You knew what it looked like.

6:05

I knew what it looked like on the television

6:07

screen and in film, but it's hard

6:09

to get there when you don't have anybody guiding you

6:11

or to look to. So for

6:13

me, it was just making stuff online and then

6:16

eventually getting the attention of.

6:21

Oh you you like my smile, this mouths, Oh

6:23

my gosh, I stopped playing.

6:25

Oh yeah, that was the path. That's

6:28

how I'm here. We love that.

6:30

I'm all here for everybody getting there. They're

6:33

just desserts. Give people flowers by the here.

6:35

I agree, I love flowers.

6:37

So so tell me about your prosecco.

6:40

Via lo.

6:42

Look we just we just had that way.

6:44

You gotta sa can you say an Italian

6:46

accent? Okay,

6:49

I regret asking?

6:50

Yeah, sorry, Italiano is not my I've

6:53

been to Milan in Rome and you know, like

6:55

even.

6:55

All the places, I feel like you have a little bit in

6:58

you. But yes, I love Italy percent

7:00

that is my drink of choice.

7:02

So Italian food topped your Let's let's talk. Let's

7:04

talk be a rate and we can talk about.

7:05

The military way. Wait wait,

7:08

oh, I can't wait to have this conversation. But Vray

7:11

is my prosecco. Like I'm a

7:13

big persecco drinker. I associated

7:15

with my best moments in life, and so

7:18

I've been drinking it for so long and people,

7:21

because of Insecure and other things that I've done, started

7:23

drinking it, and I was like, Oh, if they're

7:25

drinking it because of me, then I wanted to

7:27

be from and so

7:30

I made my own and I'm so excited

7:32

by people are really rocking with it right now.

7:34

You went to like the whole tasting.

7:35

Oh my god, that was the best part. I just went to Italy

7:38

tasted, you know, like had This

7:40

has been like a two to three year process

7:42

of trying to get it, you know, get

7:44

it right, and to find the right partner and

7:46

all those things. So I'm so satisfied

7:49

that I have something where I'm like, oh, I won't get tired

7:51

of this.

7:51

This is my drink.

7:53

So I'd say, I'm trying to be like you, but like I've

7:55

got like in about two more years when my tequila

7:57

goes and yehoe, I'm gonna hit you up about it

7:59

like Jordan's coming

8:02

out.

8:03

But what's your Italian take? I need to know your Italian

8:05

food sake?

8:06

Oh yeah, let's talk about this right, and this in the pantheon

8:08

that is a fat kid of loving food

8:10

right all my life. Look forward to desserts,

8:13

look forward to chiros. You know trestles,

8:15

so clearly I'm a Mexican food lover.

8:16

Mexican I live phenomenon.

8:18

From Arizona, So top tier for me. Mexican

8:20

food, then soul food, like

8:23

I need the collar, I need them, and I'm gona judge

8:25

you by your mac and cheese. I need fair, I need a

8:27

hamhock, and I would like a good neck bone

8:29

every now and again. You know, if I can get

8:32

a turkey lag, I look forward to carnivals

8:34

just for the turkey legs, you know.

8:35

So second you lost

8:37

me so quick at the Turkey Lake.

8:40

Well yeah, I mean because you're not you're not

8:42

talking about every day you can't eat I could

8:44

eat every day, but you can eat soult food

8:46

and turkey legs every day like Mexican food. I can't

8:48

every day. Fist I could every day. I could

8:50

eat Mexican food for life, could eat every

8:52

day. No, I look forward to soul food. So that's my indulgence.

8:55

Okay, if that's an indulgence.

8:56

So we're talking about like there's indulgence foods

8:58

and then there's you know, I can eat this every

9:00

day every day.

9:03

I can eat.

9:03

Italian food every day because it runs the gamut and

9:05

I actually Lasaiga

9:08

is phenomen.

9:09

Lasigna is top tier that

9:13

it's a food cake. And then you go to Italy,

9:16

so you say you love Italy Italy and you're like

9:18

like, yeah, let me get that, let me get that tag over

9:20

here, and they barely put any bowlonnaise on it, like

9:23

I got like and ask you for more sauce.

9:25

And the host Yeah past

9:27

is the star out there, which I respect. I'm

9:29

like, y'all made pasta. Yeah, tell

9:32

me how to Actually I don't like the way you run it. I'm going

9:34

back to America.

9:36

Yeah, we gotta run everything now, we do everything

9:38

in excess. But I'm not mad at.

9:39

It, and I'm not taking I'm not taking Japanese like I'm

9:41

never not gonna gonna take Italian food

9:43

over Japanese food.

9:44

Japanese food, no

9:46

disagreement. Japanese food is number food

9:50

for sure. Yeah, that's like three, that runs up

9:52

my top three. Okay, we're back on board. You lost

9:54

man soft food in Turkey leg but back on food.

9:56

Mexican food what exactly? That's

9:58

what That's all I'm saying.

9:59

So you know your connection with with la

10:02

and making a point to build your brand there clearly

10:04

you said it was your north star. Just

10:07

because you come from somewhere doesn't mean you want to give back to that community.

10:09

Why is that so important for you?

10:11

I mean, I still live there, so I

10:14

see, you know, what the

10:16

community needs are. I see like as

10:18

a community member, what I want to see,

10:21

and so it's just if I have.

10:22

The ability to do it, it's just like why

10:24

not?

10:24

And I I know so many, so

10:27

many of my friends, so many and my family members are

10:29

still there, so they're constant conversations about

10:32

what we can do to help shape

10:34

the community because we're there and it's active.

10:36

So it's just kind of a why not situation

10:39

more than a why do it?

10:41

Yeah, why wouldn't I do that?

10:42

Yeah?

10:43

Exactly?

10:44

I love. I love like you know clearly, I'm

10:46

I'm from Arizona, but I'm in New Orleans

10:49

and here we go like you know, like just because

10:51

I'm from Arizona means like I go back and I give back a

10:53

little bit. But I'm in New Orleans every day, so I know the

10:55

needs. It's different when you know the needsactly

10:58

exactly. I can't wait to get home and create my

11:00

my carbon footprint back home in Arizona.

11:02

But every day what life. My kids

11:04

are from New Orleans, Like I want to impact something

11:06

where it's like a legacy build. You have New Orleans

11:08

kids five or four Magnolia

11:11

baby.

11:11

My god, O snap, there are they gonna

11:13

have access? For sure?

11:15

Hey? For sure? Yes,

11:17

they're gonna be eight years old talking about Yeah. So anyway,

11:19

my daddy, you

11:22

as long as they do. I sound like t I, I'm good with it.

11:24

Daddy House, I'm like, you gotta go get

11:27

out of here.

11:29

Man.

11:29

You so you been out here and uh, you know clearly

11:32

this week? Just how is that NFL

11:34

S fandom sort of crossed over? Is there an intersection

11:37

of oh girl, I love you from insecut

11:39

or for guys? Is there is it

11:41

such a fan girling for guys,

11:44

like from fan boys, fan

11:46

boys for a woman.

11:47

Boys for for this show,

11:49

but they'll put it on her girl.

11:50

They'll be like, I like my girl. And I was

11:52

like, yeah, man, I loved Insecure.

11:55

I mean you know, my girl made me watchually, but like I

11:57

was like, you have to.

12:00

I see the episode because the drum was I

12:04

but I appreciate the viewership anyway, Dudes

12:06

like really got into it because of you

12:08

know, the Lawrence character and they could

12:11

relate to I guess a

12:13

lot of the mails in the show, and I appreciate.

12:15

Yeah, the love has been been

12:17

great, But I'm really gonna noodle on

12:19

your NFL show.

12:20

Or a Sports World show.

12:23

Yeah exactly.

12:24

Yeah, I'm not mad.

12:25

You can go from the GAM agent, but I just felt like

12:27

agent had already been done done, That's what

12:30

right, And so I was like, if you go GM now

12:33

you really you know you you boss you

12:35

you h and I see.

12:36

When this show comes out, I just don't want you to feel any way.

12:38

I will love having people have I love

12:41

having people.

12:41

This is crazy.

12:42

I shot my first podcast with me and my teammate

12:44

mark Ingram and it was like us but

12:46

we didn't have this.

12:47

Like this is audience

12:51

too, that's just you know here and right

12:53

and this is this is legit.

12:55

I'm smalling on another level, Like I got people.

12:58

Now you needed to drinks, Like if we drinks,

13:01

I'm.

13:01

Working on it. I'm working on someone is just

13:03

coming here with the blanco from Cam Jordan. You

13:05

need you need a repo. I'm not gonna

13:07

do that. I'm aila connoisseur, like as

13:10

you have a love prosecco.

13:13

What's what's the right one? Is it really a no?

13:15

Uh? For some for you? I enjoy

13:18

and yaloe at times, but uh, if

13:20

I want to know like the flavor and like really

13:22

go up from there, I started repo, have you been

13:24

to Mexico? Come on, I'm

13:26

from Arizona? Like all right, you know, No

13:28

Gallas is all of two hours away? Been in No Gala

13:31

so many times? Cabo can Coon I

13:33

needed to loom. I got up. I

13:35

got boy who owns who's building a hotel

13:38

right outside of Cabo? Uh?

13:39

And whatever.

13:40

I'm gonna mess up that name every time, so I'm not

13:42

gonna go for it. Yeah, yeah,

13:45

I love I love traveling though, are you are huge

13:47

on traveling?

13:48

Big travel girl? Like last year I went

13:50

to probably the most countries I've ever been to.

13:52

And I just was like one favorite

13:54

one.

13:55

Yeah.

13:55

I went to agree to Athens

13:58

and that was that was just like a on the.

14:00

Map I was.

14:02

I was Athens and what's

14:06

and one of those other islands.

14:07

I haven't been to all the islands yet, but I'm gonna

14:09

make my way. But it was so random. The food

14:12

was fun.

14:12

I like to go real mediterran I'm

14:15

telling you that's another top

14:18

fiver.

14:19

I'm gonna say, out of Europe, Italy

14:22

and Mediterranean food like they

14:24

hold it down all other European

14:26

food.

14:27

I'm sorry anyway, pinchos

14:30

from Spain food.

14:31

I'm sorry because I

14:33

have it. I don't really know it was you wasn't impressed, Okay,

14:37

I just I don't want to Portugal. And everybody

14:39

was like, Portugal, that's the best food you

14:41

ever gonna have, and I was ready And

14:44

it's real.

14:44

It's reels up there too. Now I like to seafood.

14:47

Huh so where's yeah, where's your favorite spot? Like favorite,

14:49

like favorite spot to visit. We're gonna take Italy out there, because

14:51

clearly you're a Italian lover.

14:52

I went to. I mean, uh,

14:56

Mauricious, have you been there?

14:59

I don't even know you? Like Mauritius?

15:03

Where is that? Is that a country?

15:05

It's like, yes, it's name. It's in Africa, but it's

15:07

an island and it's absolutely gorgeous.

15:09

They have the most gorgeous people. The water

15:12

is amazing. And that was also. I just

15:14

wanted to fly Emirates for the first time, and I was like, where

15:16

does Emirates go? Let me tell you.

15:18

I was like, oh, where they got Mauritius, I have never

15:21

heard of this, and I.

15:21

Went that I'm not I'm not gonna lie

15:23

to you. I did Emirates on a honeymoon

15:26

and use all types of points. So he was gonna forced

15:28

class technically for the free steam. And when

15:30

I tell you, it changed my life.

15:33

I'm supposed to be a Southwest guy. I'm like, everybody's

15:35

first class on Southwest and here I am like,

15:39

but yeah, chef coming around, do you have any food?

15:41

Alga, don't do this. I'm

15:43

not ready to be all catered to in the air.

15:45

I've never recrited. Nothing has topped that

15:47

experience. I've had some great experience.

15:49

So I've believe

15:51

been to the Motherland twice, like I knocked off

15:53

what eyp?

15:55

I need to go?

15:56

Okay, yeah, we'll talk about it and

15:59

then you know, like it was great when

16:01

I felt I felt empowered going back. I walked

16:03

around, I'm like, my brother, how

16:05

about you?

16:06

Did they claim you claim me?

16:08

As you know? That's what I'm saying, my brother,

16:10

come here.

16:11

I'm just like that was my surprise.

16:14

That's why I was a little reticent to go to Egypt

16:16

because I was like, I don't donna claim me, you know,

16:18

but I'm from well,

16:20

my family's from West Africa.

16:21

They're from Senegal and I've been there. Pirates,

16:25

that is not that's the Mali.

16:27

So that was my bad. Okay.

16:31

I was like saying it was okay,

16:33

pirate tired, Come

16:35

on, I want I want you to go to another country.

16:38

I did Ghana. I went to crawl,

16:41

you know, like I've been called an achrom my whole life. And they were

16:43

like, welcome to a cross like that miss magical.

16:46

Yeah.

16:46

And the food was so good, people

16:49

so kind, West African food, warner, and

16:51

I love Ethiopian food. I don't know if you have that for sure.

16:53

Oh yeah, people think you're Ethiopian all

16:56

the time.

16:56

Oh my gosh. I just saw this.

16:58

Saw he's either Ethiopia or a

17:00

reaching and I'm like, I'm I'm like forty per

17:02

Nigeria.

17:03

Oh you must be disappointing people.

17:06

And I'm like, I'm yeah,

17:08

it has.

17:09

To be somewhere at any age, it has to.

17:10

Be Yeah, did you do it? Yeah? Already,

17:13

I'm Nigerian.

17:15

There's nothing that everybody Nigeria, everybody,

17:18

it can't be true.

17:19

I'm gonna have to, like I see ancestry in twenty

17:21

three and me and I'm like, maybe,

17:24

remember I have to go to the African ancestry one.

17:26

Like, yeah, everybody's not Nigerian. I'm sorry ancestry

17:28

everyone. I'm like, y'all gotta do better.

17:30

I mean, slavery in a part that I was real.

17:31

So like maybe I'm saying that, like they didn't do the additional

17:34

research. They were like, oh this is the port. Let's this

17:36

is the port they clearly came to. Yeah, I

17:39

mean that might be true.

17:41

No offense in Nigerians. I'm sure people want

17:43

to claim you.

17:44

So I mean, let's let's round this back out. You know,

17:46

just just thinking about things

17:49

that I that I've done. Maybe we've been similar

17:51

to I've never been on the on the on

17:53

the cover of a magazine and you like you're

17:56

not like I've been on like a football one. I'm

17:59

taking that out of there, Like I want I went beyond

18:01

that, you know, like in

18:04

terms of my vainness, right, I'm like,

18:06

I am too handsome not to be on a you

18:08

know, right, just claim

18:10

speaking to existence. So you've been on You've

18:13

been on the Time magazine cover and like

18:15

did that even rank on your boocket list.

18:17

What do you mean? I didn't even know that was possible

18:19

for me. Honestly. My publicist hit me up.

18:22

She was hyper ventilating so excited,

18:24

like I secured

18:26

this, and I was like, it just didn't

18:28

register the time because I was just like, you.

18:30

Have to be really to me. It's going to

18:32

be important to me on time.

18:34

And we did it for like Barbie, and I was like, oh, Barbie's

18:36

gonna be a significant more moment

18:38

and that's really that has nothing to do

18:41

with me. That's like Margo and Greta's movie.

18:43

So I but we love the flair that you

18:46

introduced in the movie. But yeah, thank you appreciate

18:48

that.

18:49

But so then to get on a second time cover

18:51

with just me, I was like, is this like

18:54

why?

18:55

You know why? So it was a huge

18:57

honor. And my dad doesn't really

18:59

comment anything I do, like he occasionally

19:02

tapping and be like okay, good good job,

19:05

but time he was he was all up

19:07

on my line.

19:07

Was that was?

19:08

That?

19:08

Was?

19:09

That was your moment with Pops?

19:10

For sure?

19:10

You are proud of.

19:11

Me, Yes, exactly, you love

19:13

me? Thank you?

19:16

I feel that one. Yeah, there's been some

19:17

some cool moments in my NFL career and

19:20

like maybe maybe the first Pro

19:22

Bowl was like the first time I felt that he like

19:25

I had done him justice.

19:25

You know, competitive, not at all, not at all.

19:28

He was so over yeah,

19:30

minus making me play football, like he was so

19:33

over the computer. Yeah. I was a basketball

19:35

guy, you know, like everybody wanted to hoop, everybody

19:37

wanted all that. And like at thirteen, I was probably

19:39

like five seven, one hundred and ninety five

19:41

pounds, a little fat kids, you know, like

19:44

hooping like little butterball out there, Like come on,

19:46

I was. I was getting it in and he was like, your

19:49

frame is going to change drastically. You're

19:51

going to play football, Like not Dad Hooper dreams

19:54

me living it now. And he's like, yeah,

19:56

so anyways, here's your pads, here's your helmet.

19:59

And I was like, I was like, so, you know, pouted that

20:02

first. Like a couple of weeks, game comes around. I'm sitting

20:04

on the bench and I've never sat on the bench a day in my life, and

20:06

so I'm sitting on the bench. I'm like, I mean, no,

20:08

this gotta change. And so then I turned

20:10

up and I really enjoyed, like I've always wrestled.

20:12

I got an older brother. I was got beat up by

20:16

he did. He did a little bit until he broke something in his

20:18

foot and it was like, I'm out, that's the hard thing. I'm like,

20:20

but I broke something and I embraced it. I was like, I love the

20:22

pain, and that's how you knew I was a sick. Oh. So

20:25

you know from there, football has been nothing but awesome.

20:27

That is hard to watch. Honestly.

20:29

Anytime I'm watching and I see y'all get

20:31

injured, I'm just like, how are they gonna.

20:33

Come back from this?

20:34

Yeah? Knocking wood, Like we never

20:36

prayed for injuries, but I love those hits crazy

20:38

that they were like like, oh, that needs to

20:40

be a flag. I'm like being soft this. I'm

20:43

like, right here, this is what we're made

20:45

of.

20:45

That's different, different, different.

20:48

Yeah, gotta be like you gotta and like it lived

20:50

this life this past season like tour,

20:53

a cinismosis in my ankle and something

20:55

else, and I like him, you're going down. I was like, who's

20:57

going down? I wrap this up.

20:59

Let's ride because y'all learn new body parts,

21:01

you know, when you get injured, and that's crazy, like

21:03

I've never heard of that in my life.

21:05

And I don't need to.

21:05

Yeah, I don't need to have that. Yeah, that part

21:08

of me. Yeah, we taped it up and I was like, it's

21:10

not getting there. I was like, I was like, I'm pretty sure it's high

21:12

kol sprain, but it's not. I feel like it's not getting

21:14

there.

21:15

I've never broken a bone in my life, Okay,

21:18

okay, and so like you

21:21

bringing up me saying dropping that trophy

21:23

on my foot, I really would have been out, you know what I'm saying, Like

21:25

I would have not survived that.

21:26

That could you could have been one of our top

21:29

tier receivers or DB's like

21:32

they get real diva.

21:33

Ish, don't get protected.

21:35

Yeah, exactly, like a quarterback like rules

21:37

now, like if you hit a quarterback, like they like, stop

21:39

the game, make sure he's okay, pat him on the

21:41

back, give him some warm milk, and like trying renal bedtime

21:43

story. It's real cute. Yeah, it's

21:46

real cute. I'm like, damn, he's soft.

21:47

You know, he carries the game.

21:49

That's what they say. Yes, just what they say. Is there anybody

21:51

you're looking forward to working with in the future.

21:53

Anybody I'm looking forward to working with?

21:55

Yeah, not that I'll be waiting on my phone

21:57

waiting for the call like.

22:00

That that's not to be secured that.

22:03

I really want to work with

22:05

Viola Davis and Denzel

22:07

Washington, like I just

22:09

have to, Like they are the

22:12

the pinnacle of I think representation

22:14

for sure, yes, and just like not only

22:17

talent generally, but of course

22:19

for us black talent. Like looking looking

22:22

at them and all that they have accomplished and all and

22:24

violence fairly new, especially compared

22:26

to Denzel.

22:27

But has just made.

22:29

Sex fame height.

22:31

She she's been working forever, but

22:33

like Denzel has had it since

22:35

like I've been out. She's

22:38

just getting her her showers in a major

22:40

way. But yeah, I would love to

22:43

just find a way to work with them.

22:44

Violent. When she did that Little Warrior, The Warriors

22:47

the Woman King, whoa damn

22:49

goodness.

22:50

I love that she was able to play a role

22:52

like that, you know what I'm saying, Like and it was

22:54

a successful movie and she was

22:56

so phenomenal.

22:58

So yeah, well man, that's dope.

23:00

I hope that happens for you.

23:01

Thank you.

23:02

I appreciate you tapping in with the pod for

23:04

for all that you are in the in the world

23:07

and the intersectionality of you coming over to this football

23:09

world. I appreciate you.

23:10

I appreciate you. Thank you so much for having me.

23:29

Kearvi and I are so excited and

23:31

just hype to get into this interview. We've been sort

23:33

of chatting like little kids backstage because

23:35

we remember when we got the call that said we were doing

23:37

this interview, So we were imagining what

23:40

was it like for each of you when you

23:42

got the call that said you're going to be performing

23:44

in the pregame for the Super Bowl. It's the first

23:46

time for each of you. MIT's rebell start with you.

23:49

Well, when I got the call from my manager, Justin

23:51

McIntosh, he said, I

23:54

got an offer for you.

23:54

I said, okay, what is it?

23:55

He said, no, I can't tell you until Rex gets on

23:57

the phone with you. Rex Atlanta's my boyfriend.

24:00

And I said, well, that's very strange. And

24:02

I said, okay, he's sitting around here.

24:04

What is it.

24:05

Well, You've got an offer saying the national anthem at

24:07

the Super Bowl And I said well,

24:09

and Rex said.

24:09

She'll do it.

24:11

So where does she have to be in

24:13

what time that?

24:15

And I'm like, well, did you know you're going to do it? So

24:18

he was very excited and I got excited.

24:20

But in that two seconds,

24:22

you know, you're thinking, what am I going to wear? What

24:24

is it gonna entail? What do I have to

24:26

do to be prepared? So no,

24:29

he entered for me, and so yeah, here I am.

24:33

Yes.

24:34

I don't remember what I was doing or

24:36

where I was because that's just how my memory works.

24:40

So I just remember in the moment.

24:42

I you know, my managers had been talking to me

24:44

about it for a while and the

24:46

possibility of doing it, and then we finally got the call

24:48

that was like, oh my gosh, you're going to do it. And I remember

24:51

a similar thing immediately in the moment. I

24:53

was like, I'm nervous right now for something

24:55

that doesn't happen until February. I was just

24:57

like it was November and I was like, oh my god, what

24:59

am I going to do?

25:00

There?

25:00

Like you have months to prepare, and yeah, you'll be nervous.

25:04

You know, it'd been.

25:05

Better that you just said would you do it last week?

25:07

Right?

25:07

Right?

25:07

Exactly right right, and I can just go on the moment.

25:10

Yeah, I

25:12

think, yeah, the anticipation, but

25:16

I was excited.

25:17

I was very excited.

25:18

You brought up you brought up outfits, and I was like, I

25:20

don't have to worry about this. I just grabbed clothes.

25:24

You have

25:27

all of these sets just in your closet

25:29

sets. I got it on the closing Okay.

25:31

Cool, Only it's only

25:34

post What about the when the call came for you?

25:36

I thought it was a meme.

25:38

No, but no, it absolutely wasn't.

25:40

And I was like, all right, yeah, yeah,

25:43

I was like, same

25:46

thing, same thing, so nervous. I

25:48

wish you know last week, would

25:50

you have done it last week?

25:51

Yeah?

25:51

Absolutely, I already did it.

25:53

But yeah, it's uh, you don't

25:55

even really like now that

25:57

it's actually like happening.

25:59

It's like.

26:01

I wasn't nervous until two

26:03

days ago.

26:04

Now it's right, you're right.

26:05

So it just because I initially I was like, you

26:07

might want to double check that. I'm

26:11

like cool to do it, but I'm I'm

26:13

very honored and very excited to do it, and not

26:15

nervous one bit.

26:23

In terms of, like, you know, being a player, I've always been like, all right,

26:25

let's get the national anthem over so I can go right right.

26:28

But the older the older

26:30

I get like, I'm it's changed

26:33

now, I'm like I enjoy the theatrics

26:35

of it all. I'm like, you know, the fighter plane flies

26:37

of national anthem. So now I'm

26:39

like locked in. I'm like, yep, this

26:41

is my time I start

26:44

that off. But like you know, now I'm starting to listen to

26:46

them. I'm going back and I'm listening to everythings. So listening

26:48

to these national anthems, you realize that Whinnie Houston

26:50

is widely recognized. Right the

26:52

top the greatest national

26:54

anthem performance of all time?

26:57

In ten seconds, give us your two top

26:59

nap and the performances.

27:00

Yeah, if you have to,

27:03

or even.

27:04

Yeah, my favorite ones, well, Whitney,

27:07

I love Chrisple, he love

27:09

the way Gareth

27:12

Kelly Clarkson, O, Lady

27:14

Gaga love that.

27:20

You know.

27:21

You know, it's a real honor.

27:24

But it's a lot of stress because of the people who have

27:26

gone before you. You gotta make them

27:28

proud. That's fair love stress. We're

27:30

not gonna talk about it.

27:31

Yeah, we

27:33

hope that by the end of this you guys will feel a lot less.

27:37

Therapy said, yes,

27:40

we all need to.

27:43

That is You're right, He's happy, right, Andrew?

27:45

What about for you?

27:47

I mean, Whitney, you know, I mean that's definitely the

27:50

top. I also, uh

27:54

right, just at the super Bowl. Yeah,

27:57

definitely Whitney. Uh, Chris

28:00

Apleton to a huge fan, I think he's amazing.

28:02

Beyonce was amazing. So yeah,

28:04

yeah, those are definitely my favorites, top favorites.

28:06

I also, I just got to throw it in and I'm sorry.

28:09

I also heard it was not at the super Bowl, but

28:11

Jasmine Sullivan did. Yeah,

28:13

lift every voice to see it. She is like

28:16

your favorite singer's favorites. She's amazing.

28:18

So everything she does inspires me.

28:20

So that's my favorite, regardless of you, for

28:22

sure.

28:23

Yeah. Whitney

28:26

and Ribot, Yeah, well

28:29

playing I

28:34

love that.

28:35

I heard Zach Wilde do it.

28:38

Wow.

28:40

Now everyone's like it was It was

28:42

really really It's just like a little segment of this

28:44

solo, but it was really well

28:47

appreciated.

28:47

It like ripping.

28:51

Yes, it is something about me going

28:53

up. I feel like I'm going up mentally as well, like

28:55

you know, appreciate.

28:58

This is you got

29:00

here, Well,

29:03

we're there and we're examining things. We know

29:06

how much this this not ways

29:09

on you guys, but you carry it with so much pride

29:11

when you think of the audience and how they

29:13

receive it. This this is one of

29:15

those moments where everyone's like it's starting right

29:19

post. What do you want the audience to feel

29:21

from your performance?

29:23

I don't know. I'm

29:27

know, happy, excited, get everybody

29:29

ready to go.

29:30

I don't know.

29:30

I'm I kind of

29:33

went with that's

29:35

pretty stripped back. So

29:37

it's just kind of kind of me

29:39

singing a song. So

29:42

it's just a song everyone knows and the song everyone

29:45

loves. And I don't know. I

29:47

don't want to like personal, I guess

29:49

or you know, whatever, because we

29:52

know.

29:53

I'm not the best singer, but I don't

29:55

know who knows that. Who's Yeah,

30:05

I get what I hear you.

30:06

I hear you, but

30:11

I guess heart

30:13

felt, heartfelt, and really just because

30:16

I care, that's.

30:19

The most important thing to me.

30:21

Yeah, I mean, that's a fantastic answer.

30:23

I care, you know.

30:24

So I think I think what I want

30:26

people to you know. I mean, this particular

30:28

song, you know, is definitely from

30:32

from the archives right of our culture and our

30:34

ancestors, and I think it's really you

30:36

know, obviously we hear the word representation used

30:38

a lot, but I think it is important, you know, And I think

30:41

I think what I want people to feel for me spiritually,

30:44

I want people to feel God that's that's what every

30:46

performance, you know, that's you know, I want people to

30:48

feel and whatever that means for them right a moment,

30:50

you know, and and I

30:52

want people to feel, you

30:55

know, like obviously I'm

30:57

not unaware that there are split opinions

30:59

and how people start about me singing this song,

31:02

but you know, I would like people to kind

31:05

of move those things from their heart and really

31:07

just take a moment to pause and to just to choose

31:10

to choose love and to choose togetherness in the moment, because

31:12

you can. I think you can choose peace, or you can choose

31:15

turmoil or stress or anxiety. And

31:17

so I think if people allow you know,

31:19

themselves to be quiet and allow the spirit to speak,

31:21

allowed the moment to speak, then I think we'll have a

31:24

really beautiful moment of you know, togetherness

31:26

and love those things.

31:27

So I love that we're

31:29

not for you, Reba, what do you want the audience

31:31

to feel?

31:32

Informant?

31:33

There's a lot of dudes.

31:34

Yeah, there's a lot of separation, there's

31:37

a lot of different opinions. But

31:39

when we step up and sing these

31:41

songs, let's kind of forget all

31:43

that crap. Let's join together

31:46

and be grateful and thankful, thankful

31:48

for all the people who have done what they have

31:51

done to ensure our peace, to ensure

31:53

our freedom. Let's join

31:55

together on something. And when is a

31:57

better time than at the super Bowl with

32:00

three vocalists getting out there baron

32:02

or heart and her soul and singing

32:04

our little hearts out.

32:06

Yeah, it's true, man, that makes that makes

32:08

a lot of sense. Reaba

32:10

for you.

32:12

I'm just gonna keep it real, right, I.

32:16

Knew back and tied because of the TV show.

32:18

Right, My mom's favorite TV show was

32:21

always on, you know, and in that time, you're

32:23

still always on. So

32:26

growing up there it was like fresh frits.

32:27

It was our show.

32:29

We're watching you know, you're catching both vibes there

32:32

spanning multiple generations, Like how

32:34

does how does that make you feel? Or to have

32:36

a fan base that does truly span multiple

32:40

generations? Like my mom has attachment, I have attachment.

32:43

I can't.

32:44

Kids will probably throw on a song one day,

32:45

And how does it make you

32:47

feel to have that? What does it mean

32:50

to you to have a fan base that spans

32:52

multiple generations?

32:53

Very grateful, very thankful, very

32:55

appreciative. Somebody

32:57

said, what's your fan base? Age?

32:59

Just two to eighty two.

33:01

I guess there you go.

33:03

You know, this is a full circle

33:05

for me singing the national anthem. I

33:07

got my start singing the national anthem in nineteen

33:09

seventy four. Fifty years

33:11

later, that was at the National Finals

33:14

Rodeo. Here we are at the super Bowl

33:17

and National Finals Rodeo is kind of the super

33:19

Bowl for the Rodeo, and

33:21

so here I am so honored, so

33:24

grateful to get to sing the national

33:26

anthem at the super Bowl. So it's

33:29

it's been a lot of years, fifty

33:32

and I am just beyond grateful.

33:34

Yeah, it's a blessing deal.

33:36

Yeah big.

33:37

I am not taking it for granted.

33:39

Yeah, it's crazy.

33:40

You know, Post earlier you said how it's like it's

33:42

just me singing a song. It's stripping

33:44

it down all that, And then I think of the

33:48

lift every voice and singing the national anthem, and I think

33:50

for the two of you, it's it's making it your own

33:52

right, just like Post is talking about America

33:55

is beautiful. How

33:57

have you navigated that pressure of

33:59

me at your own but being true to

34:01

the song that everybody loves in a moment

34:04

like this, And I'll start with you, Well.

34:06

When everybody sing along with right, So if

34:08

I do a little, you know, everybody's

34:12

gonna welcome. She's gonna be finished here in a minute night.

34:18

Part is. I can't do that.

34:23

With it, but you know I want everybody to sing

34:25

along, enjoy it, not be taken

34:28

out of the moment. When she did that, where's

34:31

she going with this? And you know it's

34:33

everybody's saying how long is it gonna be? Is it gonna

34:36

be a fast one? Is gonna be slow? And

34:38

I thought it would be kind of funny. Started out real slow

34:40

and they're chance.

34:44

Keep it on their toes emotions.

34:46

That's what the artist.

34:49

Started off.

34:50

Just bring that all out.

34:53

Started off,

35:02

there's over unders on, over

35:05

unders on.

35:06

Mind this is a quick

35:08

chance to make some money.

35:13

Andrew you you talked a little bit about it, just

35:15

knowing the significance of the historical relevance,

35:18

especially for the back community.

35:19

This has been a lot of fun.

35:24

How have you navigated really thinking about

35:26

how you want to attack this performance?

35:29

Uh?

35:30

Well, you know it was a partnership actually, so Adam

35:32

Blackstone did the music for it. Yeah,

35:34

he's so amazing, you know, so it's

35:36

so funny actually.

35:37

Him and I called him.

35:38

I was like, I was like, we need to pray before we put

35:40

this together. He was like all right, cool, and I was

35:42

like, so let's do it. And so I've

35:44

just navigated by, you know, like just

35:48

I think like you said, I you

35:50

know, for me, it's

35:53

reflective, contemplative, you know what I mean. For

35:55

me, A lot of things are worship. You know, I say that a

35:57

lot right, redundant but thank

36:01

you, Yeah, repeating

36:04

theirs repeating, but

36:07

no, so that that's that's kind of how I'm

36:09

approaching it, you know what I mean. I'm sort of just you

36:11

know, and like she said, I want everybody to join in,

36:14

not just in the words, but also in the spirit, you

36:17

know what I mean. So that's kind of just

36:19

yeah, just delivering the song and the words.

36:21

You know, I don't want to I don't want to do

36:24

too much or too little, basket. I don't want to overthink it, right,

36:26

I mean like I want to be to the moment.

36:28

You know, you have to be true to yourself. Yeah,

36:30

it seems like, you know, the inspiring and uplifting

36:32

is like clearly what has made.

36:34

You you especially.

36:40

Iconics on that.

36:44

So now it feels like it's like.

36:47

What does performing a song like

36:49

lift every voice. You sort of alluded

36:52

to it, but what does it like really truly mean for you

36:54

guys for a stage anyways?

36:56

Uh?

36:56

I think for me, the first

36:58

thing that comes to mind is like a genesis, right,

37:00

you know, at least for this period in this time,

37:03

not a genesis for the people who came before us.

37:05

Like she said, she talked about honoring the people

37:07

who fought and the people who actually lost their lives

37:09

and who you know, not to sing

37:12

the song, to speak these words, to live

37:14

their lives, you know. I think it's I think it's

37:16

we don't we shouldn't lose sight of that, you know what I

37:18

mean, as we you know, move forward

37:20

into the future. But it also feels like a genesis

37:22

because it's really exciting. This song has only been sung

37:25

three times at the Super Bowl, the first time vy Alicia

37:27

Keys untelevised second time

37:29

by the amazing both of them amazing women sheryly

37:31

Ralph last year, who is also my birthday twin.

37:35

Yeah, I know it's kind of kind of funny, but yeah,

37:38

so I think to be able to step into their shoes

37:40

and to honor these women and honor the people

37:42

who came before me is amazing,

37:44

But it feels like a genesis in the sense that I

37:46

really, truly do look forward to a

37:49

future when it's less of a conversation

37:52

to sing the song just is a normal

37:54

space where all of our kids, you know

37:56

what I mean. It's it's very much a part of their pantheon

37:59

of music when they go to a sporting event or

38:02

you know, to an award show or whatever. It's it's very

38:04

normal for them to hear these words and these

38:07

different songs that represent a multitude of people,

38:09

you know, because that's what we look like, you know what I

38:11

mean, right, Representation

38:14

is key always.

38:32

What I love about the Super Bowl on this stage

38:35

is that it is a celebration, of course,

38:37

of the two teams that are on the field, but also a

38:39

celebration of where culture

38:41

and music and sports all come together.

38:43

I mean, no better representation than Post right now in his

38:46

Dallas Cowboys jacket and boo and

38:48

booth.

38:49

Off camera, it was.

38:51

You and Posts riffing off each other

38:53

because you know, you had some questions for Posts about his fandom

38:56

too.

38:56

Yeah, I mean, I don't want to know, like, you know, there's

38:59

this there's so many and he's like, you're a Cowboys

39:01

guy throwing through, through and through,

39:05

you know. But like I know Travis Kelsey and we've talked

39:07

about it after Super Bowl. He was like, yeah, man,

39:09

that post alone you know.

39:10

He got me and that

39:13

is that Your trampas amazing.

39:15

So I

39:18

was like, like, couldn't let itu slide. We were working out

39:20

in Florida, whatever it is. I'm like, nope, run

39:22

that back. So like you guys were playing what beer

39:25

palmers were playing? And I

39:27

want this to be known. They're

39:30

they're fine players on

39:32

the beer table. Great

39:34

guys, great guys, fine

39:37

players.

39:39

I did notice a couple of elbow indiscretions,

39:44

but I am right. So I

39:47

don't know how how he got.

39:48

There, but the tattoo artist was there there.

39:51

He was there, sitting in the corner. And

39:55

so I was like, if if you'all beat me, I

39:58

will get this to the

40:01

Cowboys.

40:02

One is bigger?

40:03

Okay, can.

40:05

Cowboys is where Cowboys is here

40:07

on the heart shoulder? Well, no, ye, two

40:11

hearts, double hearts.

40:14

And that one where's where's where's uh? It's

40:16

right here? Yes, nice

40:19

and Todd.

40:23

We got a shot.

40:27

He's into it. Don't take forever, you

40:29

take your time.

40:30

Well, I just want them to like, let me in.

40:35

We'll do it later.

40:35

We'll do it later. We're doing later, but we know it's there.

40:38

Yes, amazing.

40:41

Yeah, so uh you again,

40:44

this is my follow up question that I have to because again

40:46

Dallas Cowboys, I knew about the story which with Travis

40:49

into that and then you know you got you

40:51

got my guy Todd Graves and he's in the

40:53

partnershop with Raisin Canes. Yeah, we

40:55

have a partnership with Raises. And

40:57

then I have more follow up for that. Anyways, I'm going to

40:59

rally to where you need to be Canes

41:05

ever since well.

41:06

I eat like I'm twelve, same so

41:09

I love Chicky ten days.

41:13

So naturally,

41:16

yeah, I had Canes playing

41:19

one time. I was playing football. I've

41:21

played when I was a kid, and

41:24

my mom said, let's try this new spot and it was

41:26

Canes and I have everybody know I was. I was the

41:28

first guy ever, not

41:31

ever, ever,

41:36

first guy that I knew. And

41:38

I started putting everybody on knes because everybody

41:40

go get Chick fil A before the game and that stuff, and

41:42

I was like, try this spot. Yeah, and

41:44

so that's when it started. And

41:47

then I met Todd at

41:49

a festival and you're like, let's do He's

41:52

the best great almost cussed, but.

41:58

And we just said, let's do something cool.

41:59

So we've built two. We built one. I live in Utah,

42:02

so we built one there, and

42:04

then we built one in Dallas, and you drive through a big

42:06

Cowboys star.

42:08

By the way, the Dallas College cheerleaders were there at the open.

42:11

It was like a big It was a big it

42:13

was awesome.

42:14

Which no, no, no, we're going to talk

42:16

about this Cowboys. You

42:18

know you have a phenomenal situation

42:20

with with raising canes, but we

42:22

know we're raising canes originated, right, So

42:24

here we got from l s U which isn't batanuge

42:27

Louisiana, right, Todd Grave. So

42:29

I'm just thinking you have a huge affection

42:31

for chicken strips. Okay, we

42:34

naturally starts and Louisiana

42:36

seems like which I feel like a natural progression

42:38

would be we undersid moon

42:41

silver. Wow me,

42:44

No, it's not possible. Off the table. Okay,

42:46

Okay, no, I watch it. Okay,

42:48

I watched.

42:49

I mean, my brother is a Saints fan, so

42:52

we'll take yeah, we'll try. Yeah,

42:54

yeah, that's a

42:57

little bit.

42:57

You should hear him from his room.

43:01

Thank you.

43:02

All so much for sitting down with us. This is been

43:04

awesome. We can't wait to watch it hit the stage. It's

43:06

gonna be phenomenal. I already have chills.

43:07

It's gonna be great. Thank you.

43:09

Can we get some chicken stripped please?

43:14

Yeah?

43:14

It is.

44:00

A Stramet

44:26

Deep Tramp

44:29

Deep and

44:34

keep contract trust

44:37

Deep batram the

44:39

Tramp

44:42

Tru

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