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What's up people, it's your boy, Cam Jay back

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with another episode of Off the Edge with

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Cam Jordan. Now, as we gear

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it for another exciting season, I wanted to reflect

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on some of the incredible guests I had the pleasure of sitting

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down with last season. But hey, don't worry,

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though, I got you new episodes

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coming your way real soon. Relax,

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I got you. But in the meantime, in between

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time, let's rewind and

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play back some of my favorite interviews from

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season one. This week, I'm

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bringing you a heart to heart interview

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I had with the Notre Dame legend man Tito,

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the Saints' former player,

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as he shares with me his journey of overcoming adversity

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and ultimately inspiring millions. So

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sit back and take a listen. Super

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excited bro that you're even tapping in.

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It's my dog, you know, my but

1:00

up, my oos my man didn't walked over to

1:02

the house and left some food on while we was

1:04

playing, you know, back in the gap. But when

1:06

I tell you, I'm excited to have you on the

1:08

podcast, Bro, like strictly because

1:10

you know, one we were teammates, but two because you're

1:13

you're an honest, positive

1:15

force to be reckoned with, Bro, and like you, I

1:17

feel like you don't get enough flowers as it is, and you

1:20

probably do, like I'm not sure. You know you out

1:22

Utah. You rolled down your window and it's probably snowing outside.

1:24

You know, I'm not meant for the snow. But ooh, I

1:27

say, uh manti tal. You

1:29

know, Bro, everything that you did in

1:31

college over at Notre Dame was spectaclar.

1:33

You know you played there. You were should

1:36

have been in my mind, a Heisman Trophy winner. You had

1:38

a Heisman push. You know, I'm saying a runner

1:40

up if you will. But the

1:42

the things that you did in college were absolutely

1:44

special.

1:45

Bro.

1:45

You know you look down and you were gonna have accolades

1:48

for days. You talk about the Maxwell Award, you

1:50

know, the Walter Camp Award, you talk about

1:52

the Lot Award, the Chuck I

1:54

can never get the that Linebacker Award,

1:58

Merik Award. Bro. Like what in college

2:00

there was no no reward untouched

2:02

that you didn't have. Bro, You're a unanimous

2:05

All American. Like I say, you you should in my mind,

2:07

you should have been a Heisman Trophy winner. But

2:09

you know, it just is what it is.

2:10

Bro.

2:10

You get drafted in the second round to the

2:13

San Diego Chargers. Does that feel

2:15

weird that you know it's not San Diego no more?

2:17

Are you ready? Ye, La Chargers?

2:20

I know I always rep San Diego's you know,

2:22

you know, you know how it is. You know, even

2:24

even when I was playing, you know, with New Orleans,

2:27

I was still living in San Diego. I would send you

2:29

the pictures of my tacos at oscars, you

2:31

know. And so you, you and the

2:33

family are supposed to come out many at times. And then

2:35

we moved and you refuse to come

2:37

out here in the cold snow, So we're

2:40

gonna have to link up in San Diego.

2:43

I'm I'm gonna get out there.

2:44

Bro.

2:45

Are you out outside of City Park where you at somewhere?

2:48

We're in Lehigh right between Propo

2:50

and South Lake, And yeah,

2:53

we gotta take you on the slopes. I know, you know, you

2:55

know, you got the elite level

2:57

of athleticism. The only lineman, know,

3:00

the only d lineman that I know, leads the conditioning

3:03

and the half gasser, so you definitely

3:05

could make it down the hills.

3:08

I look see that, but I'm not I'm not conditioned

3:10

for snow film.

3:11

Bro.

3:11

We played that one game in Cleveland, and

3:13

it changed my like it solidified

3:16

my perspective on nobody should

3:18

play in colde games. But it also changed

3:20

my life in terms of I was like, I can't be in America

3:22

anymore. I left it and we lived in Spain

3:24

this off season. Because of that Cleveland game. I

3:26

said, I was like, Babe, pack it up, take off, We're

3:29

taking all four kids, are your homeschooling,

3:31

and we're leaving.

3:31

See just a little a

3:34

little cam slight flex right there. I decided

3:36

I'm going to go to Spain. Pack your stuff up. See

3:38

a lot of us can't make those type of decisions,

3:40

bro, you know, so.

3:41

You packed up a mood of utah. You were like this breeze

3:44

feels too good.

3:44

Yo, okay, okay.

3:47

But my decision was it was

3:49

because of living purposes. It was

3:51

like, I don't have the cam type of tax

3:54

brackets, so we got to get out of these

3:56

high taxes and go to a lower I

4:00

did. I didn't just say

4:02

let's go to Spain. You know, yeah,

4:05

we're not there yet.

4:07

Freeze like I frolt.

4:08

It was.

4:08

It was negative twenty eight. It was

4:10

the coldest game in Saint's history. The second

4:12

coadest game for Cleveland, and I said, wait,

4:15

the fact that it was the second coadest game for Cleveland, I should

4:17

not be here.

4:18

Well, you remember I went to college.

4:20

Oops. You know. Yeah, the

4:23

negative temperatures, you know, it's

4:25

ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, I.

4:27

Learned close that you chose.

4:29

You're like, ooh yeah, no, no,

4:31

no, anyway, bro, So let's let's

4:33

just say. You know, you got drafted

4:36

to the San Diego Chargers. We just moved past that,

4:38

you know, get us to the Saints.

4:39

You know.

4:39

You you come on to the team. What

4:41

year was it, twenty seventeen.

4:43

Yeah, twenty seventeen, Yeah, there was seventeen.

4:46

To twenty nineteen. Bro, you're on the Saints for

4:48

a few years. Bro, you come in and you bring

4:50

automatic juice like I've never

4:52

seen. I've never seen somebody come in

4:55

and mold so well with the team.

4:57

You know, like it was like you just

5:00

like coming off of a fresh team whatever that was.

5:02

You came on to the team and everybody just fully embraced

5:05

you, and or you embraced us.

5:08

Yeah, and bro, what was that like the first

5:10

day, the first day that you came in there, I said, right

5:12

next to you, I was like, all right, bro, me give me the real story.

5:14

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And you know, honestly,

5:16

like you said, I brought the juice, but honestly,

5:19

the team brought the juice back to me, you know what I mean.

5:21

So that was what was so beautiful about being

5:23

in New Orleans. It was it was the locker room.

5:26

It was the personal relationships that I had with you,

5:29

with Craig, with Alex you

5:32

know. And then came in the next year.

5:36

Detroit right now, Davis is

5:38

that guy you

5:40

know, Craig Robinson used to bring that juice bro, You

5:42

and him.

5:47

Yah, yeah, you know, And so it was, it went, It

5:49

went both ways. You know. I'm forever grateful to

5:52

all my brothers over there at New Orleans for

5:56

kind of helping me to resurrect my career

5:58

because I played some I played the best spall that I

6:00

played in New Orleans. And

6:03

I had everything to do with, you know, the

6:06

the pat that I took personally

6:08

to get back to where I needed to get to, but the people

6:11

that I surrounded myself with the people in that

6:13

locker room that helped me to you know, once

6:15

once you sat next to me, we had that conversation

6:17

I remember I was sitting in my locker. We had that conversation.

6:20

It was like all right, it was like, oh, let's

6:22

go play ball, you know what I mean. And that's that's

6:24

where the first time that I felt

6:27

that people saw me as a teammate,

6:30

you know, and not just a news clipping, you know

6:32

what I mean. And my play was

6:34

able to raise from there, and man,

6:36

I had I had the most fun playing

6:39

over there in New Orleans, and especially that we got

6:41

we got to go back to California during

6:43

the preseason and we played you know, we

6:45

had a joint practice against the Chargers and.

6:51

You might as well like hit your hit your Hoker film,

6:54

and like I was like, all right, this clearly meant

6:56

something to him.

6:57

Yeah, well, I think it was a

7:00

It was a benefit because then we got out of that humidity,

7:02

you know. And I remember man Sean

7:04

was trying to make he was trying to make

7:06

a point, you know, that that year,

7:09

and I was just like, I remember thinking to myself,

7:11

I was like, so the year that I signed here, you

7:13

decided to bring the team back

7:16

to New Orleans.

7:16

We had just done like three off seasons in Northern

7:19

Virginia with all those training camps

7:21

with Northern Vidia where it was like sixty five and Sonny

7:23

seventy sunny, and we had like three

7:25

years of back to back, back to back to

7:27

back losing seasons of seven to nine, seven

7:29

and nine, seven and nine, and he

7:31

was like, you know, the older kid down was like, this is the

7:33

way you guys want to play. Tom Benson came down, was

7:36

like this is the way you got. You'll never go back

7:38

to Virginia again. And Sean Payton was like,

7:40

you heard what he said, Now let's double down.

7:42

And I was like Jesus that

7:45

you came in. Bro.

7:46

He came in and like we went days

7:49

of straight hitting. You know, we

7:52

had to run off the practice field because were running out

7:54

of time at practice in that training camp.

7:56

So by the time we hit Cali Bro for that joint practice,

7:59

everybody was like, how this it? This

8:01

all you guys? Do

8:03

you only have thirty plays?

8:05

Come on? No? I remember

8:07

I remember who was it. He

8:09

came off the edge and just thumped the running

8:12

back and I remember thinking like Mark

8:14

and I know it was Marcus remember,

8:16

and there was like a whole little ruckus that broke out,

8:19

but I don't know.

8:19

They were upset, like Marcus that

8:21

comes off hills this running back and

8:24

George's are like, this is not how we.

8:25

Practice like this how we practiced.

8:28

So no idea,

8:30

but it was that I have

8:33

that level of confidence that because

8:35

of what we went through, like you

8:38

stand no chance, you know what I mean? And that's what I

8:40

felt like. It helped

8:42

us to get into that mentality of man, like,

8:45

there's no way that you guys

8:47

went through what we went through, Like having

8:49

thirty forty plus people. I remember after practice,

8:52

like forty of us in there with Ivy's just it

8:54

looked like a scene from a movie.

8:56

And I walked by everybody like I'm

8:58

you know, I don't cramp up, bro, So I just walked everybody. I'm

9:00

like, weakness, yeah, you know.

9:02

I was like, look at you, you and your ivs.

9:04

Bro.

9:05

You're like you're you're taking two bags? My

9:07

guy? What was that was the name? Devaux whatever?

9:10

Devro's got like three bags in bro.

9:13

There's there's guys hurting everywhere. I'm just like, weakness,

9:16

can't do it.

9:17

It went from it went from a fashion

9:19

statement, you know, like everybody coming in with

9:22

advisors on. By day two, the

9:24

advisors are.

9:25

Off sleeves everywhere.

9:27

It's just trying to survive. You know, you took

9:29

out two pairs of cleats, three pairs of socks,

9:31

like at the at the second like

9:33

special teams period, everybody was

9:35

switching out their socks, switching out their cleats,

9:38

like switching out gloves. You know, it was to

9:40

switch out those fleets. Bro.

9:41

Like a training a training camp

9:43

in New Orleans when it's it's like ninety

9:45

eight degrees one hundred percent humidity, You're

9:48

you're practicing for two and a half hours, Bro, an

9:50

hour in your shoes like you're stepping in it

9:52

feels like you gotta puddle your shoes. You bring

9:54

two or three pairs of codes

9:57

to practice, just so like conditioningwise, you're

9:59

not moving under water. But Bro,

10:01

that's crazy. But I really want to start off with, first

10:04

of all, congratulations on you know, all

10:06

your success, bro, starting with Notre Dame of

10:08

course, Polynesian Hall of Fame. You

10:10

know, it's like even even your high

10:12

school, isn't the force Buckner

10:15

from your high school too out in Hawaii?

10:17

Like you know, I can't. I'm not even going to attempt

10:19

to say your high school prep school. There

10:24

you go, you got it in there in

10:26

there, Bro, But like, I just want to how

10:29

does it feel, Bro, to to know that

10:31

you become an all time great at Notre

10:33

Dame?

10:33

Bro?

10:34

Like everything that you did, Bro. You

10:36

know, you throw the stats out there and there's a reason why,

10:38

you know, four years, four hundred and thirty seven tackles,

10:41

you know, ranked third all time and in the

10:44

in history there, Like, how does

10:46

it feel to know you put such a phenomenal college

10:49

crew together to even have a chance to go to

10:51

the league, Like that's always been a dream of mine.

10:52

So for you, well, I think it goes

10:55

back to the saying, like you always

10:57

want to leave the place better than when you found it, you

10:59

know, And for me to be able to

11:01

do that in my way and the fashion that I did

11:03

it. Obviously, Notre Dame is one

11:05

of the most stored football programs in the country,

11:07

and I just literally went

11:10

in there to you know, continue the

11:12

dominance that my father Thomas, since

11:14

I was little, to you know, really

11:16

stick to my routines and

11:19

you know, hopefully the result would be

11:21

what I wanted it to be. I mean, the result was always

11:24

success just based off of the work ethic.

11:27

And so for me to do that and to

11:29

have an impact on people off of the field

11:33

was exactly what I would want

11:36

my career to be like while

11:38

I was at Notre Dame, and it's a special place. And

11:40

it's nice now because we literally just got

11:42

back from South Bend this past weekend. I

11:44

took my wife and my babies out there. And

11:47

you know what's nice is my wife didn't

11:49

know the Notre Dame me. You know, she knew the NFL

11:52

ME and you know, unfortunately the NFL ME didn't

11:55

it didn't reach the heights of the Notre

11:57

Dame ME. And so when we go back to South Bend, she gets

11:59

to see like the plaques, the

12:02

murals that all of the trophies and.

12:04

College there's not many people

12:06

reached that level of success, not like there's there's

12:09

only a few cats, you

12:11

know, like

12:14

not too many of you. You heard what I said, third

12:16

and third in all times the tackles.

12:18

Now, like yeah, yeah, it

12:20

was, it was it was up there. It was like that

12:22

that was what we like to as a

12:24

summit. You know what I mean when

12:26

people when people talk about reaching the summit,

12:28

like in my life for that time,

12:31

like that was the summit of college football.

12:34

You know what I was able to achieve and attain

12:36

on a personal level and on a

12:38

team level, you know, to to make it to the national

12:41

championship. You know. Obviously we got whooped

12:43

up on by by Alabama, you

12:45

know, and you know, I had, I had, I

12:47

had. I had a bad taste of Alabama

12:49

for a long time. And then I met Duce

12:51

Stews and and you know, just to know Mark

12:54

and I'm like jeez, and then you know, too

12:56

went there and so it

12:58

was one of those things, honestly to have

13:01

my family experience it with me, to

13:04

people to know my name, my last name, and

13:07

to recognize my family in public, Like that's

13:09

for a kid growing up in a

13:11

small town in Hawi. That was everything that I

13:13

wanted it to be, to have that type of impact.

13:15

Yeah, I still don't understand this whole. Like I was, I'm

13:17

from Hawaii, and then I lived in

13:19

San Diego and then I moved to Utah. I'm

13:22

like, I'm gonna talk about this forever, like nothing

13:25

but nothing but breeze and views of ocean,

13:27

and like now you're.

13:28

Like yeah, yeah,

13:31

yeah, Well, when the milk goes from twenty dollars

13:33

a gallon in hoy and you come over there, and as five

13:35

dollars, You're like, yeah, you know, the

13:38

the temperature I could deal with, you know what I mean.

13:42

My duck is a stretch. It a lot farther.

13:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

14:02

bro.

14:02

So let's talk about the Polynesian Hall of Fame, bro, because

14:04

like now there's there's you're

14:07

part of the living legends. That's that's in there now.

14:09

Palmalu would probably be the first name to come to

14:11

my mind, and now.

14:13

The second name is gonna be Man Thanks.

14:16

Like you know, I'm just saying, like when

14:18

you're when you're when you're in that same

14:20

breath Polynesia Hall of Fame, Like

14:22

I said, I'm a joke, but like, well the Rocks in there too.

14:25

But but in

14:27

terms of football, Troy Palus,

14:30

you him, you know you're probably

14:32

up next is probably Marcus Mariota,

14:34

like you know, the four probably

14:37

you know, it's gonna be Eavy Company.

14:39

Yeah, DFO is definitely going to be in there, Tour

14:41

is definitely gonna be in there. Tlana

14:44

is definitely gonna be in there. You know, obviously there's

14:46

still careers are still going but

14:48

to be in the Polynesian Hall of Fame,

14:51

it's a big deal because now

14:54

life comes full circle. You know, Like when I

14:56

was a little kid, Troy

14:58

was my example of oh, I could do it,

15:00

you know what I mean, Like to see Troy play at play

15:03

at USC and for him to be drafted to

15:05

the Stealers and watch his career you

15:07

know, go as it went and you know, hall of Famer,

15:09

you know, Pro Football Hall of Fame. For

15:13

me growing up as a little kid, and I

15:15

look up to those type of individuals, you know what I mean,

15:17

like, man, if Troy can do it, I can

15:19

do it. You know, there's a way to do it because he's he's kind

15:21

of blazed that path. For me now to be in

15:23

that position and understanding that, you

15:26

know, there's there's kids back at home, there's

15:28

kids around the world

15:30

that's looking up to me and say, hey, man, Ti, I did it. I

15:32

could do it. And I think, you know, for

15:34

for like to come full circle that way just

15:37

goes to show that all the hard work and the sacrifices

15:40

that myself and my family you know, put in, you

15:42

know, it all paid off. And hopefully, you

15:44

know, we'll be able to push the script with

15:47

allowing younger the younger generations

15:49

to say, hey, we can do what he did

15:52

and more. You know what I mean, Let's let's take it higher,

15:54

let's take it further, and

15:56

then hopefully the next generation

15:58

comes around and pushes that even further. And that's

16:00

kind of what that Polynesian

16:03

Hall of Fame means for me. It's it's it's a it's

16:06

a celebration that all the hard work was

16:08

was was worth it. But at the same

16:11

time, it's

16:13

just another flag up there to tell those

16:15

kids that's behind me, to say, hey, bro, like you could

16:17

do the same thing, they'll take it further, you know what I mean.

16:19

Big legacy. Yeah, it's

16:25

legacy.

16:26

Yeah, yeah, you know, And that's what it's all about,

16:28

you know. So you know we all can relate, you

16:30

know with that is like

16:32

when we die, like obviously, the only

16:35

thing that stays here is our names and the stories that people

16:37

tell about us, and you know, their interactions

16:39

with us, you know what I mean. And so I always wanted those interactions

16:42

and those stories to be positive,

16:44

you know, to be like, man, my life's better because

16:46

I met mantime, my life's better because I met Camp

16:49

and I and you know, you know how I feel

16:51

about you. You know, you know that the impact

16:53

that you've had on me and my family, and

16:56

you know, when a document documentary came out,

16:58

like it was one of the first that I text, you

17:00

know, just say hey, it's like I wouldn't be where

17:02

I'm at if it wasn't for you personally,

17:05

you know, like taking all of us to

17:07

the jay Z concert, Like you have no idea. So

17:09

I like, how much

17:11

that concert changed my life, Like

17:14

where I was at that time, and you

17:16

invited me just being around the fellas, I was like,

17:18

okay, cool, like getting to know my teammates.

17:20

But then the spiritual journey

17:22

that that concert had on

17:25

me because obviously jay Z was going through his stuff with

17:27

Beyonce, and you know, he had a lot

17:29

of people like saying this about him. And I remember

17:31

he started off the whole thing with his dialogue and the

17:33

narrative and he went through to kill

17:35

jay Z stuff and I remember like just thinking about

17:37

it and listening to him, and I'm like, man, those

17:39

are some of the things that go on in my head, you know

17:41

what I mean. And then when he ended it with

17:43

saying, you can't heal what you don't reveal, like

17:46

bro, that was just it was mind

17:48

blowing to me. And I'm like bro, Like, that's what I got

17:50

to do. And so from that moment on, it was

17:52

like my whole life kind

17:55

of took a one eighty of Man,

17:58

I'm looking about I'm looking at this the

18:00

whole the wrong way, you know what I mean. And

18:02

it had everything to do with that concert. And

18:04

then you look at how I played ball that year and

18:06

look at you know, and everybody would come to

18:08

me, it's like, man, that's a Notre dame man titness playing.

18:11

I was like, well, in order for me to get here there

18:13

there are events that needed to take place, you know

18:15

what I mean, in order for me to get to display this

18:17

this the space mentally and emotionally, and

18:20

that concert that you took me to had it

18:23

was a big, big part of that

18:25

healing. And so like again, it was

18:27

like, I never forget the people that was there for me,

18:30

and you was obviously one of those one of

18:32

those people, and that's why I had to I

18:34

had to pay my respects to you. And you was the you

18:36

know, like, like I said, one of the few people that I

18:39

text.

18:39

That's what I'm saying, Bro. You you hit me and I didn't

18:41

even know the impact, you know, Like I'm

18:43

like, yeah, bro, Like, you know, like if I'm

18:45

in if I'm in a Switeen D line and the suite A, you

18:48

know, the defense is always welcome. We even

18:50

open it to the office sometimes, you know, Like I'm

18:52

all about that defense camaraderiecause

18:54

I think that makes the team better when you know

18:57

what your brothers are going through, you know, like we bleed

18:59

together. Why would I not you know, why would I want

19:01

not want to know more about you as a person.

19:04

You know. So it's always it's always

19:06

that idea of building family, But just

19:08

that how did you even navigate? Like,

19:10

bro, Like why do those words hit you so

19:13

hard that when you when you when that

19:15

documentary came out earlier this year, Like how did you

19:17

navigate that emotional aspect of sort

19:19

of having to relive through everything? Right?

19:21

Yeah? Yeah, Well, you know it goes back to that

19:23

saying that jay Z said, you can't heal what you don't

19:25

reveal, you know, and there's a lot of healing that occurs

19:28

when you can verbalize things,

19:30

you know what I mean. I didn't realize how heavily

19:33

I was I was. I was holding everything

19:35

in and you can't heal it when the poison

19:37

is inside of you. You know, you have to bring that poison

19:40

out. And the amount of healing

19:42

that I did all the way up to that

19:44

point was enough for me to be comfortable

19:47

in certain certain circles. You know. There there

19:50

was a time where I wasn't comfortable in

19:52

public. Like I literally would just go

19:54

to work, do what I had to do, come home

19:56

and just be a hermit. Like I didn't want to be around

19:58

anybody.

19:59

I just must have because like is

20:01

looseid I know in New Orleans, big

20:04

people person, big heart.

20:05

Person, you know what I'm saying, Like, but but what you

20:07

need.

20:07

I'm here for you. I got you

20:09

some food at your front door. I knocked on your door, like.

20:14

You And

20:16

that's that's the that's the evolution of

20:18

it all, you know what I mean. Like that was

20:20

who I am at my core. I'm a guy who I

20:23

love people, I love, you

20:25

know, having great experiences with my friends,

20:28

creating memories with my friends. You know that

20:30

the hermit, that's not me, you know. But

20:33

in order for me to get from the hermit to the

20:35

guy who was just you know, love

20:38

was excitement, was just

20:42

enjoying the process and being grateful

20:44

for the day. Like there was a transition,

20:46

and and and and a journey that that I

20:48

had to go on, and a lot of it had

20:51

to be done by myself, but there are key

20:54

moments where I needed somebody to be there

20:56

with me, you know what I mean. And so like

20:58

you're one of those guys, Craig is one of those guys.

21:01

Alex is one of those guys that I really

21:03

leaned heavily on. And you said something

21:05

that that

21:07

that was so real. You said, you, I

21:10

want to know I had all of

21:12

these experiences, You would have all of these experiences

21:14

with the team, the defense to to know

21:16

what they're going through, right. I

21:18

think what took it a step further was you don't

21:20

even you didn't even know the impact that

21:22

you were making. You didn't even know

21:24

what your teammates are going through. But

21:27

because you had them around, you were

21:29

doing healing form that you

21:31

didn't even know you were doing. You know what I mean. That's

21:33

the quality of a great

21:36

leader, you know what I mean, Just somebody that

21:38

understands that what happens on the football

21:41

field is just a result of all the

21:43

things that we've done together at dinners,

21:45

you know what I mean, all the things that we've done on

21:47

the on the practice field. Man,

21:50

you guys would play. You would play

21:52

Smash Bros. Like for hours. Bro, Like I

21:54

remember, like your nigga gonna call

21:56

and I'm your neighbor, So yeah, you

21:58

gotta go out there.

22:00

Can't go home before you broke with

22:03

the boys, Like after

22:06

I need I need that.

22:07

Yeah, she's gonna see my truck in the driveway

22:10

and she'd be like cavade home yet like something he

22:13

he still plays Smash Bros.

22:20

Yeah, So it was. It was. It was a special transition.

22:23

It was a special journey, and it was

22:25

a journey that you know, made me into who

22:27

I am moves to to really appreciate

22:30

genuine relationships, appreciate good

22:33

people and bro. Like again, our locker room

22:35

was special, bro, you know and that's what I always

22:37

tell people, Like the locker room

22:39

in New Orleans is what

22:42

made the success of our team, you

22:44

know, like how close we were and

22:47

so and now I always watch my boys,

22:49

always watch the guys on Sundays, and I'm like, they

22:51

gotta have fun again, you know what I mean, You have fun,

22:54

celebrate you know what I mean, just bring

22:56

that energy. Got so

23:00

we was like we were like I don't care what

23:02

nobody says we was the one who started that

23:04

turnof for sure, I.

23:05

Think I think that's just that's that's already

23:07

known, like the same started that. I don't know, but

23:10

like that happened from from us.

23:13

Yeah, but you know, Craig Robertson, we out there with

23:15

the big bucket of flowers, Like yeah, flowers,

23:18

you know what I'm saying. We get an interception

23:20

and like running in and everybody rallied

23:22

behind it, and that for sure is

23:24

the same thing. Like they still do it as long

23:26

as it's to a close end zone. I'm with the jog,

23:29

Like if you're the thirty and we go to the you

23:31

know, we go to the end zone. Beat if we had the

23:33

thirty and you turn around and you jogged seventy

23:37

no no no, no, no, no, no no no. I see

23:39

what sideline?

23:40

You know what? That reminds me of Remember when we

23:42

had that goal line stand against Atlanta

23:45

and I recovered that fumble. I

23:47

remember we're on the goal line

23:50

twenty seventeen. That happened, that's twenty seventeen.

23:52

That was a second. That was the second Atlanta game.

23:54

Remember I picked the ball off

23:56

and I started to run. I ran to

23:58

the opposite side of the field. Remember as I'm

24:00

running, I remember watching the clip and your face

24:03

was like, ooh, so would love I'm

24:05

with your dog. But right later, yeah,

24:11

yeah, that probably was a bad, bad decision

24:14

for me to run to the opposite.

24:15

You want to go, you want to go ninety seven yards?

24:18

We're still the conditioning testing now. Yeah,

24:23

this thing.

24:27

You talked about emotional intelligence, you talk

24:29

about just the quality of of knowing who

24:31

you are.

24:31

Bro.

24:32

You found that over the years, But like,

24:34

how did how did that come about? Or what

24:36

is it now that you have a unique perspective

24:39

on what it is to be because you've lived

24:41

at the highest peak of what the athlete is when everybody's

24:43

looking up at you. You're still balling everything

24:45

about it too. You've had setbacks

24:48

whatever, you know, the whole the

24:50

whole cat fit situation to coming back

24:52

and we're getting drafted second round

24:54

two playing your type of your brand of football

24:56

here with it or here previously

24:59

with the with the normans saying like what did

25:01

that all take it to you? And how do you look

25:03

at the status of mental health

25:05

now?

25:06

Well, mental health to me, right is when

25:08

you're mentally healthy. It's I

25:10

like to think that there's not a lot of voices in your

25:12

head. You know, those that are that

25:15

are mentally unhealthy, it's because

25:17

they have so many voices in their head. They're kind

25:20

of they kind of get lost, they get

25:22

lost in the source of like man like whether

25:24

it's they're they're they're at

25:26

a certain peak, right and they think

25:28

that there's something that they're not or they're

25:30

at a valley and there's so many

25:33

critics in their head that they can't just they

25:35

can't seem to shake it. And so I've been at

25:37

both right right now. The journey

25:40

has allowed me to identify

25:42

all of those voices, identify the sources

25:44

of those voices, and get them out right.

25:46

But now that the only voice that I hear is mine,

25:49

and when my.

25:50

Voice is like social media, your

25:53

girl, your family, you know what.

25:56

Oh I got to take care of my parents. Oh,

25:58

like I need to be I need to be this nicole

26:00

of a player for me to be accepted. Yeah,

26:02

you know, there's there's all types of pressures that

26:05

are equal voices in the head. You said, you said

26:07

voice. It made me think about the first

26:09

time we ever had a conversation. I was like, all right, before

26:11

you before you be a mic and call these plays

26:14

girlfriend imagination

26:16

or was she like that? That's they

26:19

So, yeah, the voices are surrounding

26:21

you.

26:22

Yeah, well they're they're pressures and and

26:24

they're also they're

26:26

the critics, and they're also the fans, you

26:28

know what I mean, because when

26:31

you're living extreme, Yeah,

26:33

whether they're dragging you or whether you

26:36

have just like ten sacks one game

26:38

and they're like telling you the greatest thing

26:40

ever. Yeah, like both both extremes

26:42

are dangerous, you know what I mean, especially

26:45

if it's not the beliefs that

26:47

you have in your head, like the fact that I

26:50

know who I am to a point where

26:52

there's nothing that the praise

26:54

or the criticism can sway me.

26:56

Yea.

26:57

That is why I mean, like men mental health

26:59

and you being so sure of what

27:02

your identity is, who

27:04

you are as a person, that you're not swayed

27:07

either way. Like that's you

27:09

know where I feel I got to that

27:11

I that I know who I am. There's nothing

27:14

that you could tell me that's going

27:16

to sway that. Because I was

27:18

swayed a lot, and when I

27:20

kept swaying, swinging, eventually I felt

27:22

face flat, you know, and so I had to literally

27:25

pick myself back up and figure

27:27

out, you know, from score one, and build

27:29

myself up from score one from Brooke one. And

27:32

again I had to do a lot of it by myself, but there

27:34

were people that helped me to to

27:36

to to to build that, you know, whether it

27:38

be my family and my parents, my siblings, my friends

27:40

like yourself, my wife, you know, my

27:42

kids now you know. So it's

27:44

a journey that everybody must take. It's

27:47

a journey that you know, I hope that it doesn't

27:49

take people as long as it took me. But

27:51

the journey is is what you know creates

27:54

and it modes, and you know, you'll be happy

27:56

with the final product. And I'm

27:58

definitely happy with with you

28:01

know, who I came up to be as a man. You

28:03

know. So for anybody that's

28:05

going through mental health issues, in order for

28:07

you to be the best version of yourself, you need to be internally

28:09

the best version of you because what happens outside

28:12

is just a reflection of what's going on inside, you

28:14

know. And so that's

28:16

that's kind of my piece on that.

28:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

28:23

But you never know, you never know,

28:25

Like even talking about it, bro who you're

28:27

affecting or you know, it feels

28:29

like it's a sermon at times, bro, Like that's

28:31

just a message somebody may need to hear,

28:34

you know, in this in this day and age, well,

28:36

you know, we're starting to under understand this EQ

28:39

or this even like I call twenty

28:41

like I call twenty twenty im like the error to be

28:43

soft, right, and and I sort

28:45

of chuckle about it. But it's literally like, you

28:47

know, everybody's worried about other people's opinions. Everybody's

28:49

worried about everybody's you know, how

28:52

I affecting the next person over? Or

28:54

how are they affecting me? Or social media

28:57

does this and all in all these other circumstances,

29:00

it's like, bro, know who you are and stand

29:02

on it, you know, like like live

29:04

live your truth, live your life, and

29:06

you know, be blessed. Like there's so many ways

29:09

it can go. Life can always be worse and life

29:11

can always be better. You know. It's

29:13

just like watching you after a game football

29:15

film, you'd be like, Bro, I played terrible game.

29:18

Film is not going to be as good as you think it

29:20

is, and you're not going to be as bad as you

29:23

think it is. Those games you're like, oh I killed

29:25

them. I half four sacks that couldn't touch me, and

29:27

you walk on like, dang I got locked up like three

29:29

or four times, bro, like that or are you close? It

29:31

could have been a seven sack game and all I left was

29:33

with three or four you know.

29:35

Like that's a great analogy. That is

29:37

actually a great analogy of of of

29:40

how life is right, you know, And

29:42

like I never thought of that analogy,

29:44

but now that you put it that way, that's actually the perfect

29:46

analogy for it. It's never as bad as you think it

29:48

is, and it's never as great as you think it is, you know. So

29:51

like again, to stay grounded in it all, to

29:53

be grateful for it all, because

29:55

at the end of the day, like like life happens

29:58

for you, doesn't happen to you, you know, And so you

30:00

have the ability and the power

30:02

to make life what you need to make it.

30:04

You know, you could make it great. You could

30:07

also make it a living hell, you know what I mean. So you

30:09

have that power like people who let things happen

30:11

to them and say, oh, man, like I'm the victim, and I was like,

30:13

no, bro, you're the only You're only

30:15

the victim of your decisions, you know, because

30:17

no matter what you do to me, I still have the ability

30:20

to filter it and perceive it the way

30:22

that I need to perceive it in order for me to progress.

30:24

Like I'm never gonna let anybody do anything to me, say

30:27

anything to me that's going to cripple me, and

30:30

you know, you know, stunt my growth as a person.

30:32

And the reason why I know that is because I used

30:34

to let that do it, do it, do it to me, you know what

30:36

I mean? And so that's what you

30:38

know for me? Mental health, I think

30:40

it's it's it's something that's important. I think some

30:42

people look at it as uh as

30:44

a reason to do the things they

30:46

do. No, that's not what mental health is, you know what I mean.

30:49

Mental health is you understanding who you are,

30:51

the best version of yourself, the best form of yourself,

30:53

and you're doing all that you can to get there. You know. It's

30:56

not an excuse to do stupid things, you know what I mean.

30:58

That's not what it is, you know what I mean. Like I don't like when people

31:00

say, oh no, no, no, bro, that's

31:02

not what this is. It's understanding where I'm at

31:05

and where I need to get to and the things

31:07

that I need to do in order to get there, you know. And

31:09

so that's that's what I

31:12

that I think mental health is. It's it's it's

31:14

for me to be the best version of me

31:16

to do the most good. You know what, what

31:18

can I what version of me brings out the

31:20

most good? What what what version of

31:23

me brings out the most production? That's

31:26

that's what I need to do. That's that's the person to

31:28

bless me?

31:28

How can I be a blessing to others?

31:30

Exactly?

31:31

Brother, I'm still breathing, I'm

31:33

still standing. Bright

31:51

you I said, you're a fan of man. Now that you

31:53

know, I can't say like football is over because I don't

31:55

think football ever leaves the blood. Now,

31:57

you've got a legacy if you're own.

31:58

Bro.

31:59

But like I said, Mary, my dog got two kids.

32:01

Now, you know what I'm saying. Jit with the

32:03

at the end, you know what I'm saying, what was

32:06

it not? Because there's no off season now? You know, like me,

32:08

off season, I'm flitting. I'm like, man, what else

32:10

can I do?

32:11

Yeah?

32:12

What's what's next for you?

32:13

Bro? Like you?

32:14

Now, now you don't drop the documentary, you

32:16

probably got to executive produce your credit out of there, you

32:18

ep things? Now, what

32:21

what what else is it in Utah for you?

32:23

You know? What's what was amazing was when when

32:26

you know, every parent will we'll understand this, when

32:28

my kids came into my life, especially

32:30

with my son, when my daughter came, like

32:33

I went to the dad phase that dad bought to gain

32:35

a whole bunch of weight. And you

32:37

know I didn't realize that the

32:39

baby girl, Yeah, my daughter's

32:41

fault, bro. Like you know, my princess softened

32:44

me up, you know. But then when my

32:46

son came and with both of them,

32:49

immediately life took a turn from you. I

32:53

immediately wanted everything great in

32:55

this world for my kids. I

32:57

wanted everything that was great in this world

33:00

I wanted for them. But the person

33:02

that the first thing that needed to happen was I

33:04

needed to be great. You know. I needed to be the

33:06

greatest version of me because

33:08

my kids aren't going to remember what I tell them, but they're going to remember

33:11

what they saw me do. They're going to remember how

33:13

they saw Daddy work, how he saw

33:15

how they saw me walk through this life. And

33:18

so it was I was two ninety five,

33:20

Yeah, Jenny, first

33:24

that day teat

33:26

that for I

33:29

was yes,

33:32

Yeah. So my wife decided.

33:34

She told me, she was like, hey, when I'm done giving

33:36

birth to this boy, I wanted to do a

33:38

fitness show. I said, okay, cool,

33:40

she did fitness shows before, so

33:42

I was like, all right, what a perfect what a perfect

33:45

opportunity for me to get back to shape. So she

33:47

and I went on this fitness journey and my

33:49

goal was to get back down to my plane with two

33:51

thirty seven. I hit that, and so it

33:53

was all way of

33:56

getting back to the best version of me. Now.

33:58

Throughout that process, doing a lot of public

34:01

speaking. Since the documentar

34:04

came out, I met with a lot

34:06

of a lot of successful people

34:09

and they just happened to be in the private equity

34:11

world, and they're telling

34:13

me like, why aren't you doing what we're doing. He's

34:15

like, there's no reason why you shouldn't

34:18

be doing what you know we're doing. You know, you

34:20

have the network, you have the abilities. You just need

34:22

to make those decisions for yourself. And I'm sitting over here

34:24

in Utah and I'm like, Okay, Like we're

34:26

living a comfortable life, but we're not living the off

34:28

season go to Spain life, like Cam, you know what, I

34:30

mean like I want

34:33

to. I want to. I want to give that to my kids,

34:35

you know what I mean. I know Tony

34:37

is out here in Utah and I watch him how

34:39

he moves and it inspires me. I'm like,

34:41

man, he's on a private jet everywhere, you know. I mean, he just

34:43

came back from the F the F one race

34:46

over there and in Vegas. You know, I'm

34:48

like, man, I want to do that. You know, how can I

34:50

do that? Well? I started, I started

34:52

to contact a lot of people, talk to a lot of people,

34:54

and you know, so we're in the process of getting

34:56

into the private equity work world. And

34:59

that's that's where I know

35:01

that I can do everything that I want to do. One, I can

35:03

be present in my in my kid's life the way

35:05

that I want to. Two, I can be the example

35:07

to them of what I want life to be for

35:10

them. And three

35:12

I can build generational wealth. I

35:14

can I can introduce my children

35:16

and my children's children to a thinking

35:19

and a mentality and an approach to life

35:22

that it's gonna get them

35:24

to a place you know where Okay,

35:26

daddy got the private jet. Now what you're gonna do? You

35:28

know what I mean? So that's different.

35:31

You know what I'm saying. But that's the envelope that I'm

35:33

trying to push, you know what I mean. Why

35:35

not? Like why not? You know what I mean, Like, it's

35:38

all up to me, you know what I mean. So it's

35:40

up to me. Then you know I'm gonna take it

35:42

as far as I can take it. And then, son,

35:44

I taught you everything that I could

35:46

learn and everything that I've done. Now you

35:48

got to take it, you know.

35:50

What I mean. I can get you so far. Bro, I took

35:52

I took the Family of Spain, and Tank

35:54

was like, oh, we could do that again. No, no, no, baby,

35:56

I took you to Spain for a reason. We lived out

35:58

there this all season because one I want to introduce you

36:01

to a different world. Two I wanted

36:03

I want you to be inspired to learn Spanish, and three

36:06

I want you to understand when you talk to

36:08

your friends, not everybody gets to live in Spain for

36:10

two and a half three months, you know, Like

36:12

when you like, it takes it takes a certain

36:14

way of working, take a certain lifestyle

36:16

to get to where you are. So you can't just be

36:19

like, oh, I'm just gonna live off my dad. No,

36:21

baby, Like when why spout turn off.

36:24

I'm gonna tell you what my daddy told me. Hey,

36:26

I'm doing okay. I don't know

36:28

how you're gonna live, but

36:31

I'm always gonna live, like yes, and

36:34

that's that's me shout out to

36:36

pops like Steve Steve Jordan. I was like, I remember,

36:38

bro I used to, you know, have a TJ Max

36:40

budget. I had a checking book that I had to and I

36:42

was like, I'm living in a big house, you know, five

36:44

six fifty three fifty four hundred

36:46

square feet, which is huge to me. You know, I'm

36:48

going to all my friends places and they're sitting on you

36:51

know, a thousand square feed or twelve hundred square feet,

36:53

tw twenty two hundredquare feet. I don't know. I got a

36:55

big house, you know what I'm saying. And they're in Jay's

36:57

and they're in you know, Koogie back in the Gap

36:59

and they rocking, you know. Louis Batan felt,

37:03

hey, like I'm over here. I came to

37:05

my dad at like twelve, thirteen years old,

37:07

once I understood what materials things were, and I

37:09

was like, man, are we broke? I was like,

37:11

Dad, you play leave for thirteen years? And

37:13

he looked at me and was like, nah, I'm

37:15

doing really good.

37:16

Actually.

37:17

I was like, I'm an engineer. You know, I got

37:19

my degree from Brown. I'm still an engineer.

37:21

I played the lead for thirteen years, like I'm

37:24

doing really well. Actually, but you son,

37:27

you're broke. And I was like, and

37:30

that stuck with me.

37:32

Bro But that's but that's the power of parenting,

37:34

though, you understand, because Dad could

37:37

have took taken a totally different way. He

37:39

could have had you dressed to the nicest things and enabled

37:41

you. You know. And that's one thing that I told my wife is

37:43

I'll never do is I'm never going to enable my

37:45

kids like I'm going to do with what

37:47

you just said, Cam. I'm going to take them around

37:50

the world. I'm going to give them those experiences.

37:52

I'm going to open up their eyes to see, like, hey,

37:54

man, like your dreams. I'm going to show

37:56

you what your dream looks like. I'm not just

37:58

gonna tell you write it on a paper. No, you

38:00

want to do this, cool, I'm going to take you over there so

38:03

that you can be in the buildings, you could see the environments,

38:05

you could talk to the people, you could smell, you could

38:07

taste you could feel, you know, because then it

38:09

becomes a reality for you. Now it becomes a goal.

38:11

Now you know what it looks like. Now you could picture yourself

38:13

in those places, you know. And I made

38:15

a post a few months ago when we was in in Vegas.

38:19

We stayed at the Palms at one of their

38:22

huge suites, Bro that just overlooks everything,

38:25

and it was it was a humbling experience

38:27

for me because I remember my dad and my mom

38:30

worked their butts off. You know, we was one of

38:32

those kids. We grew up in the three bed, one bath house, no

38:34

A c you know what I mean. So when

38:36

dad would take us to the inn at at

38:39

you know, in our hometown, or we would be able

38:41

to go to one of the hotels

38:43

in Waikiki, like, it was a it was a

38:45

huge solution for us, you know, like, oh, smokes

38:47

like we're here, well now a

38:50

few months ago, we're over there at in this executive

38:53

suite, bro. Like it was just

38:55

stupid, bro like the amenities,

38:58

you know what I mean. We had a butler bro that bringing us food.

39:00

Like, and there was a picture that I

39:02

posted as my baby girl and she's looking out right

39:05

and I literally sat there, Bro just

39:07

grateful. I was like, and

39:10

I made a post that saying, you know, grand

39:12

Grandpa, Grandpa got us to the hotel,

39:14

Daddy got us to the to the penthouse. Right

39:16

now, what you're gonna do?

39:18

You know what I mean to take me to the private jet?

39:20

Come on, now, take that to the

39:22

next level.

39:23

Yeah, So that's what it's all about. For me. It was like,

39:25

you ask me, what's next, Well, what's next is the

39:28

top? Okay, now we get to this summit of this mountain.

39:30

Well, there's always another mountain to climb. Let's get

39:32

to the top of that one. There's always

39:35

you know, and it never stops.

39:37

It never stops. And I don't ever want it to stop

39:40

from my kids, and and I'm always

39:42

going to learn from you. I'm always gonna learn from your dad. You

39:44

know, your dad's one of the best humans

39:46

I ever met. Man. Every time he saw me, he always said

39:48

what's up, always asked how I was doing. And

39:51

you never if you ever ran into your dad,

39:53

you never knew that he played

39:55

in the league as long as I had had that success.

39:58

You'll never know because he's just so down to earth. And

40:00

you meet you, You're like, oh makes

40:02

sense, you know it makes sense because you was raised by

40:04

that guy, you know what I mean? Like your

40:07

you run into The only way you would know that your professional

40:09

athlete is because you look like one. If

40:11

you talk to can't.

40:13

You can't hide these shoulders fail. I'm not even in the camp

40:15

camp frame now.

40:16

Yeah, either either know that or you know

40:19

that camera professional athlete because his

40:21

big selfie coming out of the small some small

40:23

car sometimes, remember he was rolling the suv sometimes

40:25

and he was parking the parking lot you're supposed

40:28

to not park at. You know, I was the only camp

40:30

can park over there, you know what I mean? But you

40:32

know you never know, right, And that's what I

40:34

feel is the best thing that somebody

40:36

could tell you, Like, is my interactions

40:39

with you was on a human

40:41

level one of the best interactions

40:43

that I could ever have. And they had nothing to do

40:45

with your social status, you know what I mean. And so all

40:48

of those people that I've met that's in this

40:50

private equity world that's pro billions, Like

40:52

when I'm met a dude who he runs

40:54

a two hundred billion dollar firm, bro like with

40:57

a bee can walking in with Louis Bouton

40:59

everything, like I thought I was stunning with some Travis,

41:01

some Trevors. Scott's like, I was like a boy

41:04

came in some Louise left in a Lambeo

41:06

truck. But like the conversations,

41:09

bro, human and human

41:11

right, and he's just like, how can I help you? How can

41:13

well, man, Clay, I want to do that, you

41:15

know, I want to get to that level so I can turn back around

41:17

and say, hey, bro, how can I help you?

41:20

You know, how can I get you here? You

41:22

know what I mean? Because that's that's what I want to see everybody

41:24

win, bro, And that's what you know,

41:26

there's people that helped me to win. I

41:28

mean, I want to see everybody win. So yeah, that's

41:31

that's what's next. That's what we're working on. That's what's

41:33

current. You know. That's that's the current events

41:35

for the Tetle family right now. Future

41:39

events. Hopefully my son goes to Notre Dame. You know, he

41:41

already got a verbal offer this weekend, so he's

41:43

ten months old, can't you

41:46

tens old? Coach Coach Freeman came over,

41:48

He's like, you have an offer. I was

41:50

like, all right, coach, I'm gonna make make sure he read now

41:52

he ain't gonna play linebacker. You gonna play quarterback

41:54

because autumn autumn rules

41:56

and football right now, protecting that boy

41:58

like you can't land on You can't

42:00

hit him above the shoulder. You can hit them below

42:02

the knees, and.

42:03

Once he releases, you better not touch them.

42:05

You better not touch them, said Sons, You're gonna

42:07

play quarterback.

42:10

I appreciate you tapping in, Bro, I'm gonna get you out of here.

42:13

I try and keep it around thirty five, but I

42:17

love having great people on here. Bro. It's

42:20

been nothing but a pleasure keeping you on off the edge

42:22

with me. Bro, it's my ted

42:24

tell you know what I'm saying always,

42:29

Bro, I appreciate you for everything that you are.

42:31

Bro.

42:31

I'm gonna tap in shortly. I love you brother always.

42:43

So there you have it. It's a round. I

42:45

just want to say a huge thank you to all my awesome listeners

42:47

for rocking with me. I've got a whole locker room

42:49

full of my favorite interviews from season one coming

42:52

your way. But before I go, you know the drill.

42:54

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