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is a fucking, you know, you're like one of the

1:21

first celebrities I ever met when I moved out to

1:23

Hollywood, right? No.

1:25

Dude, you are, can I

1:28

tell you one of the coolest things ever when I told

1:30

you this to you backstage when we were in MGM Grand?

1:32

Yeah. Everyone's backstage. Jimmy

1:34

Kimmel, Guy Fieri, there's professional

1:37

athletes everywhere. I bring Nate Diaz back there

1:39

and he goes fucking Pauly Shore and went right

1:41

to you. Well, he just couldn't believe I was

1:44

still alive. That's

1:46

why he was there. He's like, what the fuck? I thought

1:48

you died, bro. I

1:50

thought you were dead. No, yeah, no, it was

1:52

cool. It's every

1:55

day I pinch myself, you know?

1:57

Yeah, of course. You know, I

1:59

pinch myself because because

2:02

I did whatever I did so many years ago

2:04

and still like so many years later, people are

2:06

still like, I don't know what

2:08

I'm doing. That was fun. Well, I was at, we were

2:11

in Vegas. I had dinner with

2:13

Gronk and Gronk's dad's wife

2:16

was like, came into the room, we're

2:18

in a private room, Rob Gronkowski's there.

2:21

And she's like, Paulie Shore is

2:23

upstairs at the bar and everyone's like, and

2:26

Gronk's like, no fucking way. And

2:28

I was like, do you guys know Paulie? And they're like, no. I

2:30

said, I know him, would you like to meet him? And they're like, please.

2:33

And in my head, I was like, Gronk, you can

2:35

just walk up to him and go, I, yeah, I'm

2:37

Gronk. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went up and

2:39

I just yelled Paulie. Yeah, no,

2:42

I know it's weird. It's well, you have,

2:44

you have a place in all of our,

2:47

like it's weird because you're my age, kinda. Like

2:49

we're roughly the same age, but

2:51

you have a place in my childhood

2:53

because in the formative years of MTV

2:55

and in the formative years of fun,

2:57

comedy, slapstick movies, you made all of

3:00

them and you were, you hosted every

3:02

spring break. You were, you were a

3:04

fixture on MTV. And

3:07

I will tell you that, and I've told you this the first time

3:09

I ever met you, I was with Louie Anderson in

3:12

son-in-law when you get hit, you

3:14

get punched and you go to the ground crying. Yeah.

3:17

It's the funniest fucking thing in the world.

3:19

It's the, it's the fucking best comedic choice.

3:22

I, that, that made us laugh

3:24

in a movie theater out loud,

3:27

Iodome, jury duty in the army

3:29

now, fucking Encino man. I

3:31

telling you all the guys you've worked

3:33

with have won Oscars. I think

3:35

yours is coming. And I think I know

3:37

what project it's gonna be. Yeah. I'm

3:39

excited. No, I'm excited.

3:41

Yeah, no, I'm excited. You

3:44

know, a lot of it is, well, you know, I

3:46

mean, a lot of it is how shit lines up in

3:48

life. You know, you put your shit out

3:50

there and you keep trying

3:52

and keep trying and trying. And then also in

3:54

this guy upstairs puts this guy, you know, it's

3:56

kind of like that old Reese's Peanut Butter commercial,

3:58

you know, you didn't fucking. No, you put the

4:00

peanut butter and the chocolate and all of a sudden it's

4:02

like holy shit So with the Richard

4:05

Simmons thing, it just happened

4:07

naturally online. So I started, you

4:09

know during the pandemic I did a sweat. It was

4:11

called sweat with the wheeze, which is which is My

4:14

own if you put that up, it's just what

4:16

I'm fucking doing dude. Do something around the cameras

4:18

are fucking fine Yeah,

4:21

no, I started doing the

4:23

sweat with the wheeze videos and

4:25

these things went kind of viral And then people are

4:27

like you look like Richard Simmons, you

4:29

know, I mean sweating with the wheeze Yeah, so these are

4:32

like my videos that I put headsets on so I can

4:34

hear it. Yeah, so these are

4:36

my videos Oh you have so very so

4:38

these are my videos You

4:40

know in the backyard my Vegas And

4:48

it's played like look at my little Asian that's just

4:50

into the back jumping on the trampoline I love that

4:52

little dump Where we go

4:54

guys this is in Rancho Circle in Las

4:56

Vegas and it's five minutes off this trip

5:00

It's next to Nicholas Cage in this area. This

5:02

is where I was doing this During

5:08

their pandemic Yes,

5:11

this stuff went kind of viral and

5:13

then that's yeah Yeah, and then you

5:16

did the short film with the brothers

5:18

brothers. Yeah, and I have

5:20

it on here for god damn it I've

5:23

too many things on my face. Yeah, I have a bunch

5:25

of tabs open. I have your by the way that I

5:28

played this the other day and It

5:30

oh, dude, can

5:32

I tell you what I what I was here my

5:34

things and right number one You

5:37

look so fucking young Number

5:42

two, this is before This

5:44

is very little direction.

5:47

They're like Paulie. We're in a blockbuster

5:49

Just go and that they do

5:51

that comedians all the time and so many

5:53

times we just falter and in this I'm

5:55

watching you And I'm going you're going from

5:57

thing to thing. It's really fucking awesome I

6:00

was going to be going, ah, cool. Videos,

6:03

man, comedy. Dude, this is buff. I'm

6:05

going to get you. So

6:08

good. I'm going to get some cool

6:10

videos. You know my favorite videos? It's right here, buddy.

6:12

Check this. This is

6:14

buff, dude. Witness, bro. Oh

6:17

yeah. That's the kind of video that's

6:19

cut. Yeah. Totally. Oh.

6:22

How old were you in this? You had to be 25. Barely

6:24

20, yeah. I'm going to get 23. Oh.

6:28

So, dude, before I introduce this video, you got to

6:30

witness this, bro. I love this. With

6:33

Molly Ringwald, Randall Batten, Cough.

6:36

Check it. Who's that guy? Wait, wait.

6:39

I'll show you him in a sec. Check out

6:41

this video from Bruce Dickinson, all the young dudes,

6:43

hey? Sure, but witness. So much fun doing this,

6:45

chef. I had a little witness, dude. I was

6:47

in it. I had a couple scenes. He

6:49

holding the lettuce head. Look at that. That's

6:51

Paulie Shore's single. Dude, I was a, it was a,

6:53

I did a, it was the late 80s. And

6:55

did a, a co-starring, co-starring in

6:58

a Molly Ringwald movie. My porn just came

7:00

up hard. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Oh, fuck more

7:02

porn, more porn, more porn. Sorry, sorry, sorry,

7:04

sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. No,

7:06

this, I got on this point. The end,

7:08

the end, the end. It's not even, this

7:10

is, this dude, he

7:12

fucked 10 homemade sex toys. And I was like, where

7:14

was this when I was a kid? He fucked a

7:17

sex toy? Yeah, look at, he did on this one.

7:19

Wow, that thing's great. He, he, uh. You put your

7:21

dick in it? Cancel. I'm not gonna, goddamn it. It

7:23

took me to a fucking other thing. He

7:25

puts his dick in it. I don't

7:27

know how I get it up. My God, that's awesome. I didn't,

7:29

I didn't know there's an artificial

7:31

fucking vagina thing. Yeah, look, he fucks all these

7:34

things. Fucking awesome. He fucks a Pringles cam. Mm.

7:37

He, uh, I'd never, you don't seem like a guy that jerks

7:40

off a lot. No. You don't

7:42

strike me as someone that have never needed

7:44

to. Mm, when I was a kid, I

7:46

loved it. Yeah? Yeah, when I was

7:48

a kid, we wallpaper my whole, closet

7:50

with Playboy centerfold. Who am I, my parents,

7:52

my parents divorced when I was three. My

7:55

dad was on the road and my mom

7:57

wasn't really, there's no parental supervision, so. She

8:00

let me wallpaper my whole closet at my

8:02

house with Playboy centerfold. So not like most

8:04

kids had the Playboy and they stole it.

8:06

Like my mom was like, no, put the

8:08

pussy everywhere. It's fine. Just put it up

8:10

there for Polly. And Yakov

8:12

Shmirnov helped me do it. Cause he

8:14

was the handyman for real. Yeah. He

8:16

was my mom's handyman. Cause when Yakov

8:18

first came out to LA, um, his

8:20

father and him were very Russian. Like

8:23

they barely spoke fucking at all English

8:25

and his dad especially. And they needed,

8:27

they needed a job. So

8:29

they were the handyman, uh, his

8:31

father, Yakov's father and Yakov for

8:33

the handyman at my mom's house. So for everyone

8:35

who don't know, doesn't know. And there are a

8:37

lot of people that don't know who Yakov Shmirnov

8:40

is because there was a video of him going

8:42

viral the other day and people thought it was.

8:45

Recent despite what he's

8:47

wearing and that it's shot, not in letterbox.

8:49

Like they they're like, and

8:51

they were tearing it apart saying like, he

8:54

makes it sound like Russia was a bad place.

8:56

And it was a video. I didn't see the video. It's a

8:59

video I found. I was just, I was just going by it.

9:01

Now I did an interview with Rak Yakov Shmirnov probably

9:04

a few years back when I was on travel

9:06

channel at Branson, Branson, Missouri. Cause he has a

9:08

residency in Branson, Missouri. And his whole thing was,

9:10

uh, was huge from Russia. This

9:12

was during the cold war. Kids these days don't even

9:14

know there was a cold war. And

9:17

his whole thing was he was Russian doing standup and he

9:19

goes, uh, in America, you wait

9:21

five days for bread. Yeah. I'm doing a vampire.

9:24

I don't know. No, that was a good Russian

9:26

accent. Yeah. He was like, and

9:28

then in Russia, no bread. Like

9:30

it's just like his whole thing was, but these

9:32

kids were tearing it apart. I read the comments

9:34

and they're like, he's making Russia sound like it's

9:37

a bad place. Everywhere's great place. This is almost

9:39

racist towards his own people. And you were like,

9:41

what the fuck? But he, was

9:44

it hard? Like

9:46

one of my favorite things about my

9:49

career is my dad is

9:51

really is proud of me

9:53

because of my accomplishments. Your

9:55

mom created so many huge

9:57

stars. I think created everyone.

9:59

responsible for their own career

10:01

but she gave a break

10:03

and helped shepherd people's

10:05

careers in an amazing way.

10:08

Yeah. Responsible for what we

10:10

know as comedy today, your

10:12

mom and I would argue your

10:14

mom and Bud Freeman were

10:18

the two people that really shepherd comedy into the place

10:20

of this today. Was it hard getting

10:22

her to appreciate when you had like a

10:24

hit movie like Encino Man? She

10:26

didn't understand it. What's going on? I

10:29

don't understand what's going on. Doesn't make

10:31

sense. You know what I mean? It

10:33

was weird for her but I just

10:35

heard from comics behind my back she

10:37

was super proud. Really? But to my

10:39

face she was just Mitzi Shore. Always

10:42

harsh, always you know not happening, you

10:44

know just kind of staring but she

10:46

was very proud and I also talked

10:48

to Tony Orlando the other day. He

10:51

called me up about the Richard Simmons

10:53

thing. Yeah and he told started telling

10:55

me a lot of heavy shit about

10:57

my dad because my dad and Tony

10:59

Orlando were really close because my dad

11:02

opened for Tony Orlando for many years.

11:04

Really? Yeah many years. You're done Sammy.

11:06

Yeah Sammy Shore yeah and he was

11:08

just saying how proud you know he's

11:10

because he opened for my dad opened

11:12

for me for 25 years. Yeah the last 25 years of his life. You

11:16

took him out on the road. I took him on

11:18

the road to open for me which was fucking awesome

11:20

and he used to guess after the show after the

11:22

tours would go back and talk to Tony and say

11:24

how proud he was of me and all these things

11:26

and I didn't really see it because the parents

11:28

they say it to you but you don't it doesn't really

11:30

land sometimes. So yeah.

11:34

It's intense because your mom

11:36

was very

11:39

discerning in her taste of comedy. Yes. Yeah she

11:41

didn't like Seinfeld, I think Sandler, I think you

11:43

know I don't know what she said about you

11:46

and your fucking shirt. She didn't like me. Your

11:48

shirt what the fuck's he doing? Tell him to

11:50

put his shirt on. He's fucking, the eyes. She

11:53

said. Oh she's seen you right? She saw

11:55

me. Louis Anderson brought me up. Oh that's

11:57

hilarious. I did the Louis Anderson show on

11:59

Sunday. and he was doing

12:01

Sunday nights. It was Roseanne, Louis,

12:04

Chris Rock would show up. Everyone

12:07

would be back in the green room, in

12:10

the main room on Sundays, and Louis came

12:12

up to me, and I murdered in the

12:14

main room. I was

12:16

murdering on those shows, and Louis

12:18

said, I want you to meet Mitzi, and I want

12:21

you to go up in front of Mitzi. And so she brought

12:23

me into the OR. What year was this?

12:26

Georgia wasn't born yet, so 2002, Yeah,

12:31

okay. She was still okay then. Yeah, she was okay.

12:33

She was not sick, sick, yeah. Yeah, and brought me

12:35

back. Your mom was sitting in, it's so

12:38

funny, I remember that room looking different

12:40

in that time, but I remember, I

12:42

thought she was in a booth. She must have just been one

12:44

of the chairs. In the bucket chair in the

12:46

back? In the bucket chair in the back. She

12:48

introduced me, and she was like, go

12:51

on next. And I said- She

12:53

said that to you? Go on next. And I went up. Give it

12:55

a shot. I did three minutes. Oh,

12:57

wow. And then she came off,

12:59

and she said, you're not ready. And

13:01

I said, okay. And then

13:04

she said, talk to Tommy. Remember

13:07

Tommy? Yeah, Tommy. And Tommy- Well,

13:10

how it is. So bad. We're supposed to do

13:12

this. This is what- We're supposed to make it

13:14

work. That's how Mitzi wants it. This

13:17

is how bad my experience with- This is the

13:20

reason I didn't come to the store again for

13:22

another 10 years. Oh, he's friends with black people.

13:24

I don't know. You know what I mean? He

13:26

told me, Mitzi, he said

13:29

something in fact of, Mitzi

13:31

likes you, but you're not ready. You

13:33

should get a job here. Work and park

13:35

cars. And I said, I have a

13:37

TV show. And he was like, what?

13:39

I said, I'm not gonna park cars. I have a TV

13:41

show. I'm gonna need money. Yeah. He's like,

13:44

well, that's how it works, buddy. And I was like, I

13:46

was like, so I have to park cars to

13:48

get in? And he was like, yeah. And I

13:51

was like, well, I guess I'm not gonna work here. And

13:53

then, oh, no. And then, oh, I'm sorry. It was a

13:55

phone call. And he answered

13:57

the phone. You know, he called me and he goes,

13:59

this fire. And I said, yeah, and he goes, Mitzi

14:01

likes you. You can come, you gotta park cars. You gotta

14:03

work the door. And I was like, oh, I have a TV

14:05

show. And I didn't know who Tommy was. So

14:08

I was like, I guess I'm cool. I'm not gonna work the store.

14:10

And he was like, what? And I hung up and he called back.

14:12

He goes, you don't tell me you're not gonna work the store. I

14:14

tell you you're not gonna work the store. And I was like, no,

14:16

I'm telling you I'm not gonna work the store. I'm not gonna park

14:18

cars. I have a TV show. I said, I

14:20

wanna work at the store, but I just was a comedian. And

14:23

he was like, hold on. This isn't how

14:25

it works. He was really confused. And

14:28

then I was like, listen, man, I'm already doing

14:30

comedy clubs. I'm already touring The Road. And

14:32

I'm doing, I was opening for fucking J. Moore. I

14:35

wasn't touring The Road. And

14:37

I had a TV show and I was like, so, and then I

14:39

stayed away from the store. Three

14:41

years, yeah. And then when

14:43

Rogan came back, we

14:46

were all doing Rogan's podcast. I came back, your mom had

14:49

passed. And no, I don't think your mom had passed yet.

14:52

Your mom hadn't passed yet. But

14:54

Adam was there. Is that right?

14:56

And Adam told me I wasn't ready. And

14:58

I was like a real headliner then. And he was like,

15:00

I just have, he goes, I have too many people in

15:02

front of you. I can't get you in. He

15:04

was like, I think you're funny. I just, I have too many people

15:07

in front of you. He's like, I'm still trying to

15:09

get Spade clear to the store, I think he said. And

15:12

so, and then a year after

15:14

that, he passed me. Well, it is,

15:16

I mean, you have to look at it from the comedy

15:18

source point of view. I do, yeah. It is that type

15:20

of place. Yeah. You know what I mean?

15:22

Unless you're Chris Rock or Chappelle or.

15:24

Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart, Lucy, you know

15:27

what I mean? Like these guys. But

15:29

if you're in the middle like you

15:31

were. Yeah, there's a lot of guys

15:33

in the middle. Yeah, a lot

15:35

of guys that are killing in the middle, but

15:37

either at this level you get in or

15:40

at this level you get in. But so that's

15:42

kind of like, I think the store's point of

15:44

view. So you didn't need it and

15:47

you didn't want, you know, you wanted it. I wanted

15:49

it. Yeah, you wanted it. I wanted to talk about

15:51

it in therapy for six months. Yeah. And then when

15:53

I got in, it was like, it

15:55

was like, it was probably the biggest deal in

15:57

my career out of all the comedy achievements. Why?

16:00

felt like she approved you? I felt

16:02

like I was I felt like I was

16:04

stamped a legit comic like it I

16:06

this is gonna sound shitty but like to

16:09

other comics that maybe don't work in the store

16:11

but like getting past the

16:13

laugh factor wasn't a big deal to me and

16:15

I and I got past and I just never

16:17

worked there cuz I was like yeah I don't the

16:19

energy there was all for me yeah I wasn't

16:21

about pussy and I wasn't about getting pumped and

16:23

I wasn't about like all the shit that was happening

16:25

there getting past to the improv is great

16:27

it was because it could help you toward the road but

16:30

like I felt like I saw a lot of people well

16:32

there's a spirit at the store well you have to be

16:34

one of them yeah it's a spirit and it's this energy

16:36

and it's like my mom's there even though she's not there

16:38

yeah and she kind of put a stamp on it and

16:40

like just leave it that's what she always said just

16:42

leave it alone it's fine yeah like I did

16:44

my work is this out and then you just

16:47

leave it so she's there even though she's not

16:49

there so yeah it's a development type of

16:51

place I mean that's why you see these

16:53

guys carrying trash cans out you know parking

16:55

cars you know and look at

16:57

Jesky I mean she was parking cars for a long

16:59

time and now she's she's doing yeah she was doing

17:02

well so it is what it is you

17:04

know people want to people want to people

17:07

want to pay their dues there they feel like it's

17:09

important it's important to me to have paid my dues

17:11

there by going to the store doing spots doing main

17:14

room and then earning my way on to the OR

17:16

it was a big deal it was a bit the

17:18

store is very important to a lot of us did

17:21

you ever feel did it feel like home

17:23

to you always yeah always

17:25

yeah what was it like what was

17:27

it the glory days of the store there's a couple things I

17:30

want to talk to you about I obviously want to go through

17:32

whatever tabs we have open I have some stuff about you all

17:34

want to share but like the

17:36

glory days the store the kennison days the your days

17:39

like when you guys were when comedy the first real

17:41

big boom of comedy in the 80s I think me

17:43

and Eddie Griffin were like the last kind of I

17:45

don't say her raw but I think

17:47

we're like the last mitzi Shores kind of like her

17:52

her her you know not

17:55

league what's it called her class yeah

17:57

you know that that like and then after that

17:59

she got and it got kind of

18:01

weird and Tommy was, you know what I mean? Yeah.

18:03

But yeah, it was amazing. I mean, it was, you

18:05

know, it was, that's the thing when I

18:07

watched, when I watched the, you know, obviously I sit

18:09

in the back and I watched the comics and I

18:12

see, when I watch a comic

18:14

right next to them, I see Richard Pryor.

18:17

When I watch a comic right next to them,

18:19

I see Eddie Murphy. Because those stages, I saw

18:21

those few. I saw Robin Williams, I saw George

18:24

Carlin, I saw these guys. So when I watched these comics,

18:26

they don't, I don't wanna say they don't do anything for

18:28

me, but they don't really do anything for me. Not

18:31

in a bad way. No, that makes total sense. Yeah,

18:33

I just think that I go, I

18:35

never was as free, I'm never as free at the

18:38

store as Sam Kinneson, Jim

18:40

Carrey, Robin Williams, Eddie Murphy,

18:42

Richard Pryor, you, Eddie Griffin,

18:44

Sam, like all those names.

18:46

Yeah. It's

18:49

different. It was

18:51

also, it was also before this whole canceled

18:53

Woke Culture, blah, blah, blah. Like even on

18:55

stage last night, I was in a lot

18:57

of black material. You

19:00

know what I mean? if you're a

19:02

white guy in West Hollywood, which is why I like

19:04

to talk about black people. And, but

19:07

at Rogan's Club, I do it fucking kills. Oh

19:09

yeah. And I'm like free, like, you

19:11

know, I'm free. Well, you know the difference between

19:13

Rogan's Club and every other club. Rogan's Club is,

19:15

they could use a couple phones in there. Yeah,

19:18

but you know what I'm saying? Wild shit.

19:20

You could say wild shit. Yeah, but which

19:22

is great. Because that's what the store used

19:25

to be. Really? Yeah, because, and

19:27

it's not just the store, it's every club,

19:29

you know, every club you got to, you know,

19:32

you're on stage and you're working, guess what? You

19:35

got that 5%. That's like, I

19:37

better not go there. But on Rogan's Club, you

19:40

go a hundred zillion percent. You're like, fuck everyone.

19:42

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19:44

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Classic. What's

22:35

it like when you go to Rogan's club knowing that it is

22:37

truly Rogan's love

22:40

letter to your mom? I

22:42

feel more comfortable there than any club. Yeah,

22:44

absolutely. Because every time

22:46

I told you this, every time I see Joe,

22:49

I cry because I feel connected

22:51

to him because he's, I'm starting to cry right

22:53

now just thinking about him thinking about my mom

22:55

and how close you guys are. I

22:58

just feel like a brother, like a, like

23:00

a, I feel really connected to him because

23:02

of, you know, he started there with

23:04

her and how much he loves her. And obviously you

23:06

know how much I love my mom. I mean, come

23:08

on, you know? And so

23:10

when I walk in there, I feel

23:13

like, you know, she's there. I feel like I'm there.

23:15

I feel like he's there. And I feel like I'm,

23:17

I feel safe. I feel protected by

23:20

him and his crew, you know,

23:22

his staff and the managers and, you

23:24

know, and I don't

23:26

know. I just feel relaxed there. I

23:29

think I told you this. I was talking to Joe about

23:31

you the other night and he

23:33

was like, I'm so glad we're

23:35

friends. I'm so glad we've connected.

23:38

Like he really, I think, I think

23:40

ultimately, and you guys are, I

23:42

think the exact same age, but I think there was

23:44

a part of him that really looked up to you

23:46

and your mom, obviously he puts her

23:48

on pedestal. And it

23:51

was my favorite episode of Rogan was when you did

23:53

it. You, this is what I love about you is

23:55

your vulnerabilities, the same choice

23:57

you made in, in son-in-law.

24:00

where you chose to fall to the ground and cry

24:02

after getting punched. When you're on Rogan and you were

24:04

like, I miss being the star

24:06

of the movie, no one

24:09

said, there's so much shit people don't

24:11

say is very real. And

24:13

when you said that, I went, yeah,

24:16

I don't wanna, I don't

24:18

wanna do, I turned down a couple TV shows and movies

24:21

where it's like, you're gonna play this

24:23

guy. And then I was like, yeah, but I

24:25

remember you saying, like, I liked getting there and

24:28

it was about me. And people are like, come

24:30

on, you know, it

24:35

just was a vulnerability that I don't think I'd, most

24:37

people, actors are like, I just like to put in the work. I

24:40

just, you know, I really wanted to live. No, you

24:42

have to understand something. You know, my 20s were

24:45

amazing. You know, I was going

24:47

from MTV to albums to HBO

24:49

specials to feature films, I was

24:51

doing everything. All these things

24:53

were happening at once. So it was

24:56

like, I was, it was Willy Wonka. And

24:58

I felt like I got the golden ticket. And

25:00

so that's why when I talk about my

25:02

career, I just miss doing movies

25:05

because that to me is where I belong. Like

25:08

on a circus, you know, people are like, oh,

25:10

I belong in a circus. You know,

25:12

I'm a midget, I'm a chubby person. I'm a person

25:14

with a hairy face. Like this is where I belong.

25:16

Like for me, I belong on a movie set. You

25:19

know, that's where I belong. And that's where I walk

25:21

on the set. And everyone is like, Paulie, what's up?

25:23

And the grips, the caterers, you know, everyone,

25:25

we're all equal. And it's this like this

25:27

team and this feeling. And that's

25:30

what I miss. You know what I mean? I

25:32

miss that thing. And I also know how hard

25:34

movies are. And I like, to me, movies are

25:36

a lot harder than stand up. You

25:38

know what I mean? Because well, you know, I mean, you

25:40

fucking did your movie. It was probably a lot of work.

25:42

And there's the marks and there's a tennis ball and there's

25:44

the lights and this and there's the wide and

25:47

this tight and this and all

25:49

these, it's very calculated.

25:53

But you have to act like it's not calculated,

25:55

which makes it fucking dope. Like

25:57

people at home are watching movies. They're like, I can act like.

26:00

You can't know you can't not the

26:02

biggest the biggest I tell people the biggest My

26:05

biggest advice to for actors is

26:07

to listen. That's the most

26:10

important advice It's not how you're acting

26:12

It's how you're listening because it's just

26:14

like when you go on stage The

26:16

audience doesn't you don't dictate this

26:19

the show the audience does so for instance when

26:21

you're playing MGM you go out on that stage

26:23

you have to listen to the audience before you

26:25

go into your shit You don't come

26:27

out and go boom boom boom boom boom boom cuz then they're

26:29

like this you They take you yeah,

26:31

and it's the same thing with you're working with

26:34

an actor. However you act you got a you

26:37

got a react acting It's reacting and

26:39

and and you know and that's what's so much

26:41

fun because when the cameras roll dude I fucking

26:43

in my mind. I'm like going for it. Yeah,

26:46

and they don't people don't know where I'm gonna

26:48

fucking go That was the great fun thing about

26:50

watching you as an actor You

26:52

everything you brought to it had this same

26:54

vibe from MTV of like yeah freedom real

26:56

freedom Yeah freedom because I let go when

26:58

the cameras roll. I'm going yeah, you know

27:00

you better fucking go with me That's why

27:02

I like playing off of actors. I don't

27:04

like playing off of comedians Yeah, so if

27:06

you watch Sun and law and you watch

27:08

my films army movie or the different movies

27:11

like this even guesthouse You know

27:13

where people are acting just straight

27:15

actors. You know, you know in your movie

27:17

you play off of fucking some really good actors

27:20

Yeah, and you popped you know what I mean?

27:22

It's different than playing a bunch of off a

27:24

bunch of goofy comedians. I read a fucking interview

27:26

about you I thought it

27:28

was recent because it was the LA Times.

27:31

It was from 1994

27:34

it was from night. I think I have it on here and

27:36

I thought 1994

27:38

that was in the army. No, you were

27:41

getting ready to release in the army now and They

27:44

said you're in a three-picture deal. And I

27:46

don't think you've done biodome yet son-in-law and Encino

27:50

man. Yeah, and they're like no one

27:52

expected these two to be such fucking

27:54

big hit what what

27:57

does that feel like when you were like

28:00

Like, what does it feel like to be the it

28:03

guy in Hollywood? I

28:08

didn't think of it that way. I just was

28:10

just doing my thing. I wasn't like, I'm the

28:12

it guy. You were just very micro. No, I

28:14

was just having fun. Really? Yeah,

28:17

I wasn't analyzing anything.

28:19

I was just having a good time and I was going

28:21

from gig to gig. And that's why things

28:24

got fucked up for me. And I talk about it a

28:26

lot is that, you know, I

28:28

just want to work. You know what

28:30

I mean? So like when when when the

28:33

movies like, for instance, when the Army

28:35

movie came to me. Like,

28:37

you know, Andy Dick. Yeah, me and Andy

28:39

Dick. You know, a lot of people, you

28:41

know, don't know this. But you know,

28:43

my management said, like, don't do it. Like

28:46

this is, you know, you're cutting your hair and blah, blah,

28:48

blah and all this shit. Let's do something

28:50

better. And the new line came at us with

28:52

a script called Totally London. And

28:55

it was me playing an au pair in London, like

28:57

Mary Poppins. And it was like a killer script. It

28:59

was from New Line, the same guys that were working

29:01

with Jim Carrey and Jeffrey Katzenberg,

29:03

who ran Disney at the time, wouldn't let

29:05

me get out of my three picture deal.

29:08

And basically said, no, you're not doing that.

29:10

They actually Jeffrey bought the script, shelved Totally

29:12

London and said, you're doing it in the

29:14

army now. And then in my mind, I'm

29:16

like, you know what? I'll make this work

29:18

because, you know, every comic does an army

29:21

movie. You got Bill Murray, you got this

29:23

one, all that. I'll make it work. And

29:25

it did turn out good. You know, several years later, people

29:28

are like, oh, that's it. And I love the movie. But

29:30

at the time, it wasn't as

29:32

good as Son-in-law and it wasn't as good as

29:34

Encino Man. So it didn't do great at the

29:36

box. It did OK. And

29:38

I can see doing good because it's high concept. Son-in-law

29:42

was you carrying a movie. Yeah,

29:44

that was you with what

29:46

I'll say is a on

29:49

a scale of one to ten, like a script, it's like probably

29:51

a six. And you made it good. But

29:54

and the other thing I'd say is whatever

29:57

the critics ever thought of you, it didn't matter. I

30:00

try to think about with my career is what the

30:02

fans thought because when when son-in-law came out we saw

30:04

it in the theaters And we

30:06

were like oh, this is fucking awesome.

30:08

We laughed hysterically I put it that's

30:10

you carrying a movie But

30:12

the script and the structure was good though the

30:14

script and the structure was it was it was

30:17

it was simple Was the premise was a girl

30:19

comes home and brings her roommate home with

30:22

her, right? Yeah, and then they

30:24

fall in love and yeah, blah blah blah Tiffany

30:26

Andrew Amrithesen's in it Yeah, she's in it and

30:28

but it was just it was

30:30

guests is coming to dinner Yeah, really

30:32

kind of like what it was, you know, or

30:34

meet the parents or you know meet dense

30:36

dispense still or thing But yeah, it's a

30:39

simple, you know, yeah,

30:41

but you're right. I guess you know, I guess and she

30:43

demands high concepts you guys find a caveman Brennan

30:47

again back to back to Camille's a

30:50

playoff of actors Brandon is

30:52

such a good actor and he became

30:54

that role so comedically I popped off

30:56

of him and Shawn and Shawn Yeah,

30:58

Shawn Athens like a child star. Yeah,

31:01

Shawn was great in it. He's yeah, he's really do

31:03

you ever talk to those guys? I talked to Shawn.

31:05

I'm on text with him a lot. Brandon and I

31:07

haven't talked in a while There's

31:10

no reason other than we just haven't talked

31:12

but uh Yeah,

31:15

Brendan did great this last year and you know had

31:17

a great, you know a great hit I was with

31:19

Simon Rex last night in the in the main room

31:22

At the store with Jeff Jeff Ross

31:25

and Simon is another guy, you know

31:27

Simon Rex Who's another guy who just

31:29

got it? He got he says this

31:31

like the lottery this guy Shawn Baker

31:33

this director says All right. I'm just

31:36

gonna put Simon Rex in this fucking

31:38

movie and he delivered. Yeah, this

31:40

is fucking awesome Yeah, Simon Rex is a

31:42

real, you know, there's like There's

31:45

I've always quantified so I always feel like a little

31:47

bit of an outsider in that I'm just a normal

31:50

kid I think that way like I grew up

31:52

in Tampa. I didn't have Ends

31:54

in New York or LA I always was out the

31:56

outside of a party looking and going how wise how's

31:58

everyone so comfortable? And Simon

32:01

Rex is someone I met

32:03

with Jordan Rubin. Yeah. Yeah.

32:06

The little manager. No, no, no. He's

32:08

a comic. Oh, he's a comic. Yeah.

32:11

Yeah. He's a director. He's

32:13

a photographer. He's extremely talented. Yeah. I

32:17

just imagine being that cool? And he's never lost

32:19

his coolness. Yeah. He's still cool

32:21

as fuck. Yeah. And he's a great

32:23

actor. Yeah. Well, he got the shot. You

32:26

know what I mean? He got the opportunity. That's

32:28

what everyone is hoping for in the business. Well,

32:30

that's because the manager and agents aren't bringing it.

32:32

No. No. No.

32:35

It's the guy that's the director going, hey, you know

32:37

what? I'm going to do something completely unexpected with this

32:40

actor. Yeah. And I'm going to fucking blow people away.

32:42

And that's what they did with Simon. It's got to

32:44

be a little bit of the stars aligning. It's like

32:46

when I heard about the Richard Simmons film and I

32:48

saw it was just your picture and then a

32:51

thing underneath it. I was

32:53

like, oh, this is going to

32:55

be fucking hot. Yeah. That's

32:57

going to be great. Yeah. No. So

33:00

we're, you know, I got great producers. This guy, Mark Walpert, he's got a

33:02

deal at Warner Brothers and he's attached as

33:04

the producer. He's an older guy, which is cool.

33:06

So I can respect him. It's not like a

33:08

kid that's wanting to produce. He's been in the

33:10

game for years. And

33:13

every day we're just zooming with writers. We're

33:16

zooming writers are just pitching us every day. We had

33:18

a great pitch today

33:20

with the writer. So every day we're just

33:22

zooming. We just zoom, zoom, zoom, writers, writers,

33:24

writers, everyone's got a different take on it

33:26

and everyone's into it. So we're

33:28

just waiting for the right take the right, you know,

33:31

because you want it to be fun, but you also

33:33

want it to be dramatic. The

33:35

I want to pull up this, isn't it? This

33:37

is the history of pyramid schemes. This

33:39

is more good porn. Have you guys seen

33:41

court jester, the court jester ladies? So

33:44

this is Paulie as Richard Simmons and

33:46

it's really fucking awesome. You saw this.

33:49

This is crazy. I mean, it's funny.

33:51

It's a copy of me to the

33:53

oldies. Yeah,

33:55

I'm going to be your new piece

33:57

of exercise equipment. This

34:00

man is going to kill us. Who

34:03

is supposed to give it to him? Who

34:05

out there wants to dance with

34:07

me and Alan? I

34:10

don't think people remember how big

34:12

of a star Richard Simmons was.

34:15

I mean he was, he was like

34:17

before Jane Fonda. He

34:20

was, it's going to be a great

34:22

fucking movie. He is, he is... And

34:25

he's elusive now. He's been

34:27

in hiding for 10 years. He's alright.

34:30

He's around. Yeah, I sent him flowers recently

34:33

the other day. I found out where

34:35

he lives. But what I was going

34:37

to say is these

34:41

days everyone is so self-absorbed in their

34:43

self. You know the word is I

34:45

guess narcissistic. You know everyone is on

34:47

their own TikTok, their own this, their

34:49

own that. And Richard Simmons is the

34:51

opposite. Richard Simmons was all about you.

34:54

Yes. You know what I

34:56

mean? And not, it's called selflessness. He

34:58

was all about selflessness. So his story

35:00

is more important now than I think

35:02

ever. You know because no one

35:05

cares about other people. People just

35:07

care about themselves. And with

35:09

him it's all about you. You

35:11

know what I mean? Saving you. That's what

35:13

this whole thing, the whole gesture is

35:15

about. Yes, saving lives. This guy who's

35:17

overweight, who's failing and you and this.

35:20

Yeah, I see him. You see him. Yeah,

35:22

I see him not being kind of a

35:24

flounder in the back. And then I

35:26

just kind of you know, just

35:30

kind of go and I see him and I

35:33

just kind of self kind of premeditated you

35:35

know where I'm going to save this guy.

35:37

Yes. Because Richard was about saving lives. And

35:39

then also having fun because if you watch

35:41

them on Letterman, you watch them on Stern

35:44

and all those you know different shows. He's

35:46

never going to switch the channel. You're like what

35:48

the fuck is this guy going to do? Yeah. Howard

35:51

Stern talked glowingly about

35:54

you as Richard Simmons. Have you seen that

35:56

clip? No, I haven't.

35:58

Oh, I just... Oh, sick. I

36:00

have so many tabs open right now. Let me close

36:02

some out. Oh, this is all your movies you've ever

36:04

done This is so fucking jury duty

36:06

to this day such a

36:09

fucking brilliant movie You know, what's funny

36:11

is that movie just got killed by

36:13

the critics the crazy bio dome too

36:15

They got to just mad. Oh dome

36:17

was fucking awesome. I was biodomes like

36:20

the everything everything

36:24

Jury duty, you know, I pitched

36:26

a movie one time Yeah, I

36:30

think I can say it but I was I went

36:32

in and I was I had there's when I was young I had

36:34

a little bit of heat and I was pitching

36:36

two movies one became get him to the Greek Um,

36:39

I didn't make it but I pitched a very similar

36:41

movie except it was a hip-hop artist and me I

36:43

was the assistant and I had to get him to

36:45

Miami from New York road trip It

36:47

was a great like midnight run was midnight run

36:50

in a night run And then

36:52

the second movie I pissed is and I I'll

36:55

still make this movie. I think it's fucking I love

36:57

the the premise of jury duty is a guy who's

36:59

got nothing going on and gets into jury duty and

37:01

realizes this is Nice. I'm in a hotel. Yeah, I'm

37:03

getting paid. I don't have to worry about me. I

37:05

just need to keep this trial going It's

37:09

brilliant. It's brilliant and I pitched a movie

37:12

about a guy who's got nothing going on gets on

37:14

a cruise He's gonna kill himself on the cruise He's

37:16

gonna jump off the cruise and the night he's about

37:18

to jump pirates take over the cruise ship and he

37:20

finds out He is an awesome

37:23

hostage He's like

37:25

I love being a hot and us on a

37:27

cruise ship This is my I'm gonna I

37:29

can and he has to perpetuate the hostage

37:31

ness and keep the Going.

37:34

Yes, and I said it to the guy in

37:36

the guy go did you just pitch me jury

37:38

duty? And I went I might have I go

37:41

fucking jury duties one of my favorite fucking movies

37:43

Funny and the guy's like you should get Polly short

37:45

of the start it and I was like, do you

37:47

think he would he's like But I it's I

37:50

love that premise. Yeah, I love the

37:52

yeah kicking the can. Yeah. Yeah, just

37:54

kind of kicking the can Yeah, yeah.

37:57

No, it's fun. Yeah, it was a fun movie,

37:59

but it did It didn't do well, it's

38:01

hilarious. What's interesting about critics is it's

38:03

not, they're not usually fans of things.

38:06

Like they don't make money, celebrate,

38:08

they have to celebrate certain things. Like

38:10

they're not gonna destroy the, whatever Will

38:13

Ferrell's new thing with him driving across country

38:15

with his trans friend, they can't destroy that.

38:17

They gotta be like, this is awesome. Representation

38:19

school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, by the

38:22

way, speaking of representation, have you

38:24

seen Frawrey? I,

38:27

is the, no, is it, oh wait, hit

38:29

the movie with Will Ferrell? Adam Driver plays

38:32

Enzo Ferrari. No. And

38:34

Penelope Cruz plays his wife. No.

38:37

Can I tell you, when we're talking about representation,

38:39

this is so fucking frustrating to me. This

38:42

is Sean Strickland. This is Enzo

38:44

Ferrari's, this is Enzo

38:46

Ferrari's, this is his wife,

38:49

and this is who they have

38:51

her playing. It bothered me so much, can I

38:53

go, I can't really relate

38:56

to a story where you say, Enzo

38:59

Ferrari kept cheating on her, and you're like,

39:01

why if she looked like this? Right, right,

39:03

fake. They need to hire ugly people to

39:05

play ugly people. Well, I can't,

39:08

I can't say who. But I know

39:10

what you're saying. I know what you're saying. I

39:13

could not sit through. Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

39:15

Why would you cheat on this check? Never. You

39:17

cheat on, you know. It makes Enzo Ferrari look like

39:20

a real dick as opposed to the genius he was,

39:22

where he's like, listen, man, I stuck with her, but

39:24

it's Italy, divorce is illegal. I'm gonna

39:26

bang, look at the fucking, this is who he was

39:28

banging. Oh, wow. I mean, yeah, of

39:30

course you're gonna cheat. When you look like this, you

39:33

sleep with this, and then this

39:35

comes into the bedroom. Shut the

39:37

fuck up. That's the only

39:39

representation I have. Sean

39:42

Strickland's everywhere right now. Do

39:44

you follow Cage Fighters? If

39:47

I see it, I watch it, but I don't know the names.

39:50

Sean Strickland's pretty gangster. This,

39:52

actually, this article's about, this

39:55

is all the stuff I Google, Jorge Masvidal, I pulled

39:57

up to Nate Diaz's, Nate and Nick Diaz's jam and

39:59

stuff. Stockton and I don't

40:01

know if he came to fight, but he said no one was

40:03

there too bad I was gonna teach in a kid. I was

40:05

gonna teach a lesson. So this is the guy

40:07

that wants to fight maybe as Is

40:10

he going to he's fought him once in the in

40:13

in UFC? I think they're gonna do a boxing match

40:15

now but horse a massive dollars

40:17

out of Miami and And

40:20

there's the two baddest motherfuckers out there or they

40:22

must but all Nate Diaz and they my opinion

40:24

just fun guys to watch Fight yeah, they're fun

40:26

guys. And so these are all the things that

40:29

I do. I saw Chuck Liddell. He's He's

40:32

walking with the limp. Is he well, he's a

40:34

little thrashed. He fell off a boat recently Oh,

40:36

is that what happened? Yeah, he was he was

40:38

a little thrash. He's the sweetheart. He's a great

40:40

guy I saw I saw him at the sphere

40:42

and We went

40:45

to see you two at the sphere. Oh, wow, and

40:47

I was walking out and Chuck Liddell was there Yeah,

40:49

I was like, what's up, champ? Yeah And he was

40:51

like, yeah, we did entourage together a

40:53

long time ago. Yeah, you've had so

40:55

many rebirths in your career Like

40:57

what can I tell you a crazy one

41:00

that you're gonna go? I didn't know that

41:02

was a rebirth Yeah, when you became friends

41:04

with Fred Durst. Oh, yeah, like I remember.

41:06

Yeah Being a limp biscuit fan.

41:08

Yeah, and I just moved to New York star comedy

41:10

and he did his cribs and he Went

41:13

to your house. I went to my house to do cribs.

41:15

Yeah. Yeah, and I was like, yeah No,

41:17

yeah, you know Fred came into my life

41:19

at the late 90s and

41:21

he came into my life at a time where I

41:23

was really I don't wanna say depressed, but I was

41:25

pretty sad. It was before I did polish or is

41:27

dead Yeah, which to me I think it's the best

41:29

move I've ever done. I don't you ever seen but

41:31

I have not the that's where You fake your own

41:33

death. Yeah, I saw the one I saw the one

41:35

but you adopted the black kid. Yeah Yeah,

41:38

that's that's pretty that's pretty like you couldn't do

41:40

that. You could not do that. No way That

41:43

was That

41:45

was fucking gnarly dude and I went I

41:47

was scared shitless, but I knew I had

41:50

to keep it real Otherwise it wouldn't be

41:52

funny. Yeah, that's real as fuck You

41:54

know me, but you can't fake that shit, you know, I'm going

41:56

up on the street I'm like, hey, can I get your kid?

41:59

I've been you're like You know staring at me

42:01

and that's the joke. Okay, we got it. But with

42:03

Fred he came into my life Um, we were doing

42:05

I think would say what karaoke? I think

42:07

kid rock was there or some shit like that

42:09

and it was um We

42:12

did he just we just hit it off He was

42:14

his career was like this my career was like this

42:17

and he just kind of scooped me up And

42:19

say you're with me now. You're good You know

42:22

and he gave me confidence and he gave me

42:24

like a second wind Yeah, and he put me

42:26

in all his music videos and

42:28

he let me open for him. I went on

42:30

tour as tour bus He was like hooking up

42:32

with Carmen Electra at the time So

42:34

like Carmen Electra was on the bus with Fred Durst and

42:37

I'm like fuck. This was awesome You

42:39

know what I mean? And uh, and he was just

42:41

a really good guy Uh, and

42:43

I love Fred, you know really talented

42:45

sweetheart and funny and you know He's

42:48

a fucking band is you know, he's

42:50

got these two huge huge albums Chocolate

42:53

starfish and insignificant other and their

42:55

anthems and three dollar bill three

42:57

dollar bill. These songs are fucking

42:59

anthems Yes, you know, it's crazy

43:01

a fucking crazy story crazy crazy

43:03

So Fred so kid rock kind

43:05

of came in the under the scene right after

43:08

right Uh right after fred

43:10

durst. Yeah, so it was it was uh,

43:12

so it's me kid rock and fred in

43:14

new york and uh And

43:17

fred says fred says to me and kid

43:19

rock come with us to conan o'brien So

43:21

me and kid rock went to conan

43:23

o'brien with fred durst fred durst's limp

43:26

biscuit is playing. Uh, I

43:28

think it's faith It's the uh, the

43:30

the george michael song and me and kid

43:32

rock are in the background dancing So if

43:35

you find that video of fucking conan o'brien,

43:37

you got fred and me and kid rock

43:39

in the background I'm looking kid

43:41

rock was cool as fuck and we hung out

43:43

a lot also the guys from stained You

43:46

know aaron lewis from stain. Yeah, all those guys

43:48

we used to hang out with all those guys

43:50

So those guys yeah, those guys came into my life

43:52

and scooped me up You

43:55

know and when I was you know, when I was

43:57

gone This is it. Here we

43:59

go This was

44:02

a game changer. Look

44:07

at Young Fred Durst. I

44:10

think twice. I

44:13

can't hide away. And

44:16

I know all the things you play. I can

44:18

play them too. What a

44:20

great fucking... Wait, were you guys

44:22

on stage? Yeah, we were on

44:25

stage somewhere there. Oh wait, there's

44:27

Kid Rock. Is that you on the other

44:29

side? Yeah, I think I just caught a

44:31

beer. But

44:34

yeah, this looks cool because Fred was like the

44:36

leader. Fred was like the Joe Rogan

44:38

of these guys. He

44:40

took Kid Rock, he took Shane. Yeah,

44:43

there's... There's

44:46

Kid Rock, holy shit. So,

44:49

yeah, so... Good

45:00

job, man. Fred Durst, I got a good Fred Durst story.

45:03

I was at Gelson's, I see Fred

45:05

Durst. Bucket hat,

45:07

gray beard. I'm walking down,

45:09

it's like maybe 9 in the morning and I

45:12

go, it's fucking Fred Durst. That's fucking Fred Durst.

45:14

Now listen, that's my guy. That's my generation. That's

45:17

the anthems. This song meant... I mean, this is all the

45:19

stuff we ate X with you two. And

45:21

I walk past him and I go, that's fucking Fred Durst.

45:23

I'm gonna fucking say... I can't help it. I see a

45:26

celebrity. I did it last night with Chris Robinson. I made

45:28

him uncomfortable as fuck. Where'd you see him? Dantanas.

45:30

Holy fuck. And he walked in and I went, fucking Chris Robinson,

45:32

I'll be right back. And I was with Whitney Cummings and she

45:34

goes, don't do it. And I go, I can't, it's already happening.

45:37

And I walked up to him and I was

45:39

with a dude named Chris. It's

45:41

Chris Robinson and I want to bring up Chris Porter. And I

45:43

walked up to him and I went, I know there's too many

45:46

Chris's in my head. I go, hey, my name is Burke Chrysler.

45:48

I'm a huge fan. I'm good friends with Chris. And

45:50

he goes, who? I said, Chris Robinson. And he went,

45:52

huh? I went, no, Chris Cole. Chris

45:56

is a comedian. He's a comedian Chris. And he goes, there's a

45:58

lot of comedian Chris. I go, he's your friend. And he goes

46:00

Chris Porter. I went yeah, and he goes okay. I went cool

46:02

and I walked away. I went fuck that's hilarious So

46:05

I see Fred Durst the Gelson's and I start

46:07

I Walk past him once I do

46:09

a lap and then I see him again. I know where

46:11

he's going So I go I'm gonna walk I'm gonna go

46:13

up to him say hey, man. I'm spurred. I grew up

46:15

in Florida. You go from Jacksonville I'm a big fan of

46:18

building So I got my all things. I'm

46:20

gonna say I start walking towards him Fred Durst Nick Makes

46:23

like I'm taking with me and he just shakes good. No

46:26

Yeah He

46:30

just went don't do it Yeah,

46:34

I don't Fred Durst that I ran in our

46:36

friends are Fred Durst now, too Yeah, I'm not

46:38

friends, but like I I he met

46:40

him at the show that them I'm friends I

46:42

use friends the same way. I use the word

46:45

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46:47

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46:50

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46:52

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49:57

You've always been a guy that gets

49:59

beautiful women but you're not like some dog that

50:01

needs it. Like you're not the guy in the back

50:04

of the club going what's her name they always came

50:06

to you and I always thought

50:08

that was a fucking cool way to be. I'm not like

50:10

I've never I'm just not a I was

50:12

never a ladies man so like yeah

50:14

ever. Really? Who gave you the best blowjob in

50:16

your life? Like if you look back you go

50:19

that one I remember. Leanne. I

50:21

have to say we didn't

50:27

want to break it to you

50:29

but she's gonna come here right

50:32

now. She's from the south man she

50:34

taught like this man girl like that

50:36

they do that shit real good. I

50:40

remember him. I don't know

50:42

dude. Can't remember

50:45

one blowjob just a brilliant blowjob.

50:48

Yeah I mean there's a lot. Like

50:51

tell me one tell me like

50:53

a good crazy fucking

50:55

1990 sex

50:57

story that really where you're like

51:00

whoa young Paulie

51:02

Shore never thought this

51:04

would happen to him.

51:07

I'd have to say we were

51:10

doing a show in San Francisco

51:14

and it was at the Warfield Theatre. Yeah.

51:16

Yeah and and there was

51:18

a strip club called the Mitchell Brothers

51:21

the au pair of theater. It was like

51:23

girls were strippers slash hookers. You know what I

51:25

mean? It was like you can go in there and get a

51:27

lap dance and go have sex with them in the other room.

51:30

It's still there I think. Mitchell

51:33

Brothers in San Francisco. Oh I just

51:35

performed in San Francisco. The au pair

51:37

of theater. It's classic.

51:39

It's a classic strip club.

51:41

Yeah. So I

51:44

used to do this thing called Lisa

51:46

Lisa the one I adore which was my song. You

51:49

know I'm a stony crusty dude with the mop on

51:51

top. You know that thing and

51:54

and I always had girls dance with me on

51:56

stage. So we bring girls from the audience or

51:58

blah blah blah. So my role manager Nick called

52:02

the Mitchell Brothers and said, hey, we're coming to town, can

52:04

we get some of the girls? And they're all excited. So

52:06

they came to the show. And

52:09

then after the show, they dance on the stage.

52:11

And after the show, they came

52:14

backstage and I'm there with my road manager

52:16

and my, the

52:19

guy that does the drums and stuff, the roadie type

52:21

guy. And we're all sitting there and all the girls

52:23

are there. There's like nine of them. And the one

52:26

girl says to me, she goes, what do you want

52:28

us to do? And as a

52:30

joke, I'm like, you eat her, you lick her, you

52:32

squeeze her, as a joke. And then

52:34

they start doing it. And I'm like, what

52:36

the fuck? Like right there, like

52:38

they just start doing it. Like it wasn't like,

52:41

and so I stopped them. You know, I'm like,

52:43

oh, we're good. And then after

52:45

that, we went back to the hotel and

52:48

each of us had like, you

52:50

know, yeah. Yeah,

52:53

that was pretty cool. What was the

52:55

most amount of girls you ever been with at once?

52:58

Think about it. Well, I've only been with six

53:00

chicks. Oh, in

53:02

your whole six. Yeah, I'm just

53:04

one. So you've never been like two

53:06

or three girls on you? I had a weird,

53:09

like, I had a weird attempt

53:11

at a threesome, but it didn't, it was nothing real.

53:14

It's pretty cool. Really? Yeah. I

53:20

mean, it's pretty cool to have more than one girl

53:22

on you. You

53:26

could set that up. You're in the valley. This

53:28

place is in the fucking valley. There's probably a

53:31

porn next door in this fucking place. There's probably

53:33

girls that are getting gang bang right next door.

53:35

I don't know if I'd be able

53:38

to perform in a threesome. I

53:41

think I'd get- You have to

53:43

get in here. Really? Yeah. And

53:45

just like if you're going on stage, you're performing,

53:47

you're doing your stand up, you get in here,

53:49

you're like, no, you're gonna, you're gonna be serious,

53:52

but even though you're joking on stage, that's the

53:54

same thing. You just kind of

53:56

orchestrate it and it just starts to flow. They

53:59

start to kiss here. and then there and then

54:01

there and then. But once you're done, the

54:03

threesome's over. Yeah,

54:05

or I guess if they want to hook up, then they

54:07

can do that. But usually it's just they, they want to

54:10

please the dude. Yeah.

54:13

You got to do, they have to be, they have to be friends. I

54:16

guess. I don't know.

54:20

It's been a while for me. Really? Yeah. I haven't

54:22

done it in a while. When was it? When was

54:24

your last threesome? I don't remember. Really?

54:28

Was there a time where you're like, God, these threesome's are

54:30

happening two at a time almost. It

54:32

was happening. It

54:35

was. It was fun. It

54:37

was very light and airy and silly. Have you ever

54:39

been two dudes and one girl? Like

54:44

a, like a dude, like a dude, like

54:47

a dude, double teaming a chick. Like two

54:49

dudes, double teaming. Yeah. Me and my brother

54:52

Scott. Really? Yeah. It was one, it

54:54

was, it was one of his girlfriends that liked me. And,

54:57

uh, I was doing her, I was doing her

54:59

from behind and then she's

55:01

going down on him, giving him oral sex.

55:03

And he couldn't get a hard on because

55:05

he was looking at his younger brother, pound his

55:07

chick and,

55:09

uh, and,

55:11

uh, it was funny. She was like eating Rocky

55:14

road at the same time. She

55:17

liked Hagen dots or something. I don't know. He

55:20

was like looking at me like this. He's just like. And

55:24

I'm like, dude, let's go. And

55:28

he wasn't into it and he like stopped it and

55:30

like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I

55:33

thought this was hilarious. I misunderstood

55:35

this. They said there's like a

55:37

couple months in winter where you can walk from

55:39

the US to Russia and I

55:41

miss heard that. And I said, do you

55:43

know, you can walk from Alaska to Russia

55:45

over the Bering Straits and they're like,

55:48

that's not accurate. No, I was like, no, it

55:50

totally is. And then I realized they're

55:52

talking about these two islands are next to each

55:54

other. Oh, wow. And that you can walk from

55:56

here. This is Russia. This is America. Oh, wow.

55:59

I thought you could walk. all the way

56:01

across 15 minutes. I was like, that can't

56:03

be accurate. This

56:06

night, do you remember doing

56:08

this article for Los Angeles

56:11

Times? You

56:15

were 26 years old. What does it say?

56:17

Ex-Porn actress death? What is that? I don't

56:19

know. I didn't read the whole article. Maybe

56:21

turning important, he wanted to shut

56:24

his party work persona. Ex-girlfriend.

56:26

Oh, when you dated that

56:29

girl, Savannah. Yeah, that was

56:31

heavy. Yeah. You ever

56:33

think that's like, that's like... She

56:35

was only 23 when she killed herself.

56:38

Really? She's young, dude. 23. Sam Kennison

56:41

was 28 when he died. 38, dude. That's young. That's really...

56:43

38. God,

56:50

23. Think of all the things they missed out

56:52

on. It would have been fixable. All the things

56:54

that were going on in her life then could

56:56

all be rebounded. It could be fixed. She'd

56:59

be very happy right now. Probably have kids. It's

57:03

funny when you're wearing the Brody

57:06

shirt. Yeah. And

57:08

I asked a question I always ask, but

57:10

like, whenever it comes to suicide, for whatever

57:12

reason, I always go, how? Like,

57:14

that's my question. And I found

57:16

the article. I don't know if you've read this.

57:19

It's almost

57:21

hysterical in a way. He

57:25

didn't purposely kill himself, did he? Brody? Yeah.

57:28

He purposely killed himself. It wasn't like

57:30

an accident. Unless he accidentally walked into

57:32

a noose. Yeah, he hung himself. Or

57:34

he hanged himself. Oh, wow. It's called

57:37

hanged. That's what I... He was

57:39

48 years old. Wow. And Howard

57:42

Cramer found him. But here's the

57:44

crazy part of this article. I'm going to read

57:46

it off my phone. Oh, do you have it

57:48

on the thing? No, that's it. This is crazy.

57:50

Tell me if this doesn't just

57:52

rub you a little bit odd

57:54

as if Tony Henscliffe's publicist wrote

57:56

this obituary on Brody Stevens. News

58:00

of the suicide spread quickly throughout the professional

58:03

comedy world. 5,000 miles

58:05

away in London, Hinchcliffe was wrapping up the fifth

58:07

of a solo, fifth night of a solo run

58:09

at the Soho Theatre. I don't know why they're

58:11

putting that in there. He

58:14

usually keeps his cell phone on airplane mode during

58:16

shows, but for some reason tonight he left it

58:18

on. It rang, on stage, he put Edgar on

58:20

speaker and he goes, why do you sound like

58:23

one of our friends just died? And

58:25

then Edgar goes, because he did. Brody's

58:28

dead. I

58:30

had never heard that story that Tony answered it in

58:33

the middle of a show and was like, hey, why

58:37

did you sound down? Someone die or

58:39

something? He's like Brody's dead. And then

58:41

Tony, I guess, fell off stage, collapsed,

58:43

crying. Brody's death

58:45

was like... I

58:51

knew he had issues, but I

58:54

didn't know to the extent. Like

58:56

I have a hard time, I think

58:59

it's what you're talking about with the Richard Simmons thing. I

59:02

think I think of myself a lot. So I go, I would never kill

59:04

myself. How bad can it be? And

59:06

then you think, and you've been

59:08

in the business longer than I have, you've seen

59:10

a lot of people pass. I

59:13

mean a lot of people. And

59:16

you just think, suicide's the

59:18

one. There was the one guy that jumped off the fucking building

59:20

into the store, right? Yeah, in the ramp. Is

59:23

that where he landed? Yeah. How

59:25

old were you when that happened? I was in

59:27

the 1970s, so I was pretty young. Yeah. Yeah,

59:30

Steve Lebickin. Wow. Yeah.

59:33

But yeah, I mean, people kill themselves every day. It's

59:35

fucking wild. You know? Are you

59:37

in therapy? No,

59:39

but I've done group therapy for

59:41

30 years. What's

59:43

that? I could do group therapy. It's

59:45

pretty cool. And I just did ayahuasca two weeks ago.

59:48

A whole weekend of it. It was

59:51

really cool. Wait, wait, tell me about ayahuasca.

59:53

We want to go group therapy first, or

59:55

ayahuasca. Ayahuasca, group therapy. Take me

59:57

to group therapy first. Because group therapy is something I can

59:59

do. do. You want the short version

1:00:02

or the little bit longer version? A little bit

1:00:04

longer. Yeah, okay. I

1:00:09

was 19 years old and

1:00:11

my best friend Dave Curtin, he

1:00:14

said, hey, I just did this group therapy thing,

1:00:16

you should do it. I didn't question it because

1:00:18

my best friend asked me to do it. I

1:00:20

just did it and go, what is it? What

1:00:22

you know what I mean? So

1:00:24

basically back in the 1970s, it

1:00:27

was called LifeSpring group

1:00:29

therapy and it was basically about

1:00:31

how a bunch of dudes can

1:00:33

make more money and do better in

1:00:36

their business, like a group of guys, how they

1:00:38

could do better as a team. And

1:00:40

then it said, how can we do

1:00:42

better with our relationships and our

1:00:45

family? And then it was how can

1:00:47

we do better in the world? And

1:00:49

that's pretty much the three prongs

1:00:51

to it. Be better as a

1:00:53

team, relationships, and then out there

1:00:55

in the world. So there's

1:00:58

three levels to it. There's

1:01:00

basic, advanced, and leadership. And

1:01:02

I did all of them. And then I

1:01:04

did leadership. And then

1:01:06

about when I was 30 years old, when I

1:01:08

was 30 years old, I got really depressed. I

1:01:10

got sad. I started believing

1:01:12

a lot of the stuff that people were

1:01:15

saying about me. And I just

1:01:17

got, I lost my joy. I

1:01:21

lost my joy. And I was sitting there in

1:01:23

my house, my beautiful house.

1:01:26

And I said, I need help.

1:01:29

So I called LifeSpring, 411, back in the day when they

1:01:32

had 411. So I called

1:01:34

411 and they're like, LifeSpring. And I'm

1:01:36

like, fuck, I'm checking myself in. Kind

1:01:39

of like AA or something like that.

1:01:41

So I checked myself in. And if

1:01:44

you've done advanced, you can go in for

1:01:46

free because it's kind of like reauditing it

1:01:48

or whatever. So I went and

1:01:50

hopped in it. And it was a five-day

1:01:52

seminar. It lasted five days. You don't sleep

1:01:54

there. And it was like an LAX, like

1:01:56

in a ballroom there. There's only nine of

1:01:58

us. And... and

1:02:00

basically just kind of start breaking down the

1:02:02

walls. So you basically,

1:02:05

what it is, it's kind of like if you've ever been to,

1:02:09

I've ever been to bootcamp in the army, not

1:02:11

you, but you know there's a bootcamp. It's a

1:02:13

three month thing, you come in like an idiot

1:02:15

and you leave like focused and short hair, blah,

1:02:17

blah, blah. So that's kind of it. So

1:02:20

it kind of, it helped me get

1:02:22

rid of a lot of my thoughts

1:02:24

that I created in my head and

1:02:26

kind of face all that. It helped

1:02:28

me take ownership with a lot of the things

1:02:30

that I did in my life and let

1:02:32

go of a lot of stuff and then kind

1:02:34

of rebuild. So I've been doing

1:02:37

that for 30 years. And

1:02:39

so I kind of help people too. So I'm

1:02:41

like, my friend Chris Lee, he's like

1:02:44

a life coach and he's in

1:02:46

charge of it. And he also helps the

1:02:49

guy, he's got a lot of private high

1:02:51

end clients too that he tutors and does

1:02:53

it, but he does it, it's a seminar.

1:02:55

And it's basically just a five day seminar.

1:02:58

And it just kind of like, you start off like certain way and you

1:03:00

end, you kind of let go. And

1:03:03

that was kind of ayahuasca too. It was very

1:03:05

similar to that. With ayahuasca, it was a lot

1:03:08

of that, simple. How

1:03:10

did you get hooked up with ayahuasca? Did you have to

1:03:12

like four on one? I wanted to, how to what? Four

1:03:14

on one. No. Ayahuasca

1:03:16

please. Yeah, no, I wanted to do it for years. And

1:03:19

then an influencer that I

1:03:21

had on my podcast told

1:03:24

me about this place in Joshua Tree and

1:03:26

it's called Home of the Heart. And

1:03:28

it's a place that you do ayahuasca. And

1:03:31

he says it's great and the lady's in charge, her

1:03:33

name is Valerie. Here's her cell number.

1:03:36

And I went there two weeks ago and

1:03:38

I did it for two nights in a row and it

1:03:41

was fucking awesome. And it was just great.

1:03:43

They play this beautiful music. Are you by yourself or with

1:03:45

those people? No, I was with a group of

1:03:47

people I didn't know. So I went up

1:03:49

there solo. Jeff Ross is like, Jeff Ross is like,

1:03:51

I wouldn't go up by myself. I'm like, well, you're not me. You

1:03:54

know what I mean? I wanted to go by myself.

1:03:56

It was calling me. You don't need

1:03:58

the plant or the fucking. The drink

1:04:01

of iOS was calling me to go there

1:04:03

and just like be and I've never done

1:04:05

it before and it was pretty cool Did

1:04:08

did people recognize you everyone did? Yeah,

1:04:10

and but they didn't know the owner

1:04:13

Valerie the the shaman lady emailed everyone and

1:04:15

said hey Polly Shore is gonna be here

1:04:17

Don't treat them different and no one

1:04:19

treated me different. Really? Yeah, there's only six people.

1:04:21

So were they attractive? No,

1:04:24

very nice people. Yeah. Yeah I mean that's like I'm

1:04:26

weird weird shallow like that Like if I went into

1:04:29

an ayahuasca group and everyone looked like it's not a

1:04:31

sex thing, bro I know no, no, but no, but

1:04:33

I know but I I'm I'm shallow enough

1:04:35

that I'd look around the people and go Do

1:04:37

I want to be a part of this group or do I not want

1:04:39

to be a part of this group? They're just normal people think about your

1:04:41

fans. Yeah your show just normal

1:04:44

people six people like that Okay,

1:04:46

and that's just normal six dudes that look exactly

1:04:48

like me The six dudes

1:04:50

are I want a couple girls and a couple black

1:04:53

people you'd buy people your I want

1:04:55

to yeah, really? Yeah, man, I ain't gonna drink

1:04:57

this motherfucker shit Shit,

1:04:59

I drink I don't trust this motherfucker shit,

1:05:02

but it's crazy dude. So you drink

1:05:04

this thing tastes disgusting It

1:05:07

tastes like fucking like a disgusting Yegor my

1:05:09

nicer shot, which you probably like you probably

1:05:11

like So So

1:05:14

you just fucking do it and then they

1:05:17

play this music can I play some of

1:05:19

the music please? Yeah, dude, you'll trip. Yeah,

1:05:21

where's I got on my phone real quick?

1:05:23

Yeah, so dude, they play this fucking music

1:05:25

and it's the music that's that's they creative

1:05:28

through the fucking plants So

1:05:30

the that's like music through the plants So

1:05:32

you're sitting there like this and

1:05:34

the music's playing you're like, holy fuck and it's

1:05:36

the best trip in the world Really? It's pretty

1:05:39

much you're going up there to get fucked up.

1:05:41

Yeah You're not a drug guy. I'm

1:05:43

not a drug guy. You've never been a drug

1:05:45

guy. I haven't You're not

1:05:47

you know, I mean you do you drink?

1:05:49

Yeah, but not I'm not I'm the type

1:05:51

of guy that that goes to a certain

1:05:53

Thing and then I don't go over. Yeah

1:05:55

the drinking. Yeah, you keep going right keep

1:05:57

going. Yeah, sometimes I would be a good

1:06:00

I would be a good sidekick for you. I would

1:06:02

be a really good sidekick for you. We can testify

1:06:04

that. I would fucking take you out or

1:06:06

if we would just go out and hang out, I'd

1:06:08

be like, dude, stop, you're good. Yeah. You

1:06:10

know what I mean? You're good here, drink some water. You're like,

1:06:12

oh fuck, thanks bro. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'd

1:06:14

be like good for you, because I've been around guys like you

1:06:16

that fucking party a lot. Yeah. And

1:06:19

I'm able to kind of reel them in and still have a

1:06:21

good time. And then you wake up in the morning, you feel

1:06:23

good, and we go work out and go to the sauna and

1:06:25

fucking do that shit. Wait, grab your phone. I want to hear

1:06:27

the ayahuasca music. It's

1:06:29

really, it's like

1:06:32

really, and I thought it

1:06:34

was just good music because it

1:06:36

was, you know, you're on ayahuasca, but

1:06:38

it's like fucking really

1:06:41

good music. So here we are. So her

1:06:43

name is Valerie. Simon

1:06:45

Rex I think is gonna go, because he

1:06:48

lives in Joshua Tree. Really? Yeah. So

1:06:51

this is actually from the music

1:06:53

from that night. So it's called

1:06:55

Home of the Heart. It's in Joshua Tree, which

1:06:57

is great, because who doesn't want to go to

1:06:59

Joshua Tree? Joshua Tree is fucking dope. And you

1:07:01

get to trip out on ayahuasca. Here's

1:07:05

the, I

1:07:07

want to play this really beautiful song. This

1:07:11

fucking, so this is live. This is from my

1:07:13

session. It's a

1:07:15

queer relationship. This

1:07:18

is a space of all

1:07:20

my relations and

1:07:23

bring celebration to

1:07:25

meditation. I sent this to

1:07:27

Andrew Santino. He cried. Look

1:07:31

how beautiful her voice is. I

1:07:33

can't see this being super awkward. Can you hear it?

1:07:35

There you have it, of course. Yeah. And

1:07:41

this girl's beautiful. Is this Valerie? No,

1:07:43

this is, they're called

1:07:45

guardians. Right here. She's a

1:07:48

guardian. Her name's

1:07:50

Alexis. So this

1:07:53

is from the night.

1:07:56

So this is me going, in the background. I

1:07:59

start throwing up. I'm

1:08:01

never lasting so Great

1:08:11

all back in the ground Walkin'

1:08:23

from the sky I'm

1:08:30

never lasting so Great

1:08:35

all back in the ground Walkin'

1:08:41

from the sky Walkin'

1:08:50

from the sky Walkin'

1:08:53

from the sky Listen

1:09:23

to this shit That's

1:09:29

me going Really?

1:09:31

I'm flying bro Oh you just

1:09:33

have your phone next to you No I'm

1:09:36

lying there Recording this? They're

1:09:38

recording it, they sent this to me Listen to

1:09:41

this fucking bitch right here She's Russian dude And

1:09:44

it's Sasha I

1:09:47

think I start throwing up, listen He's

1:09:50

asking for the gosh Russian

1:09:53

bro, you know Russian Listen to

1:09:55

this shit you

1:10:00

throw it up. Imagine

1:10:07

tripping balls and just... You

1:10:10

love it? I f*** him. It's

1:10:13

awesome. You're going with me. I could go. It's

1:10:16

private. It's private. No cameras.

1:10:18

No one's taking photos. It's not like that.

1:10:20

Listen. I'm going to start throwing

1:10:23

up. I'm going to start throwing up. What

1:10:57

were you thinking about? My stomach started.

1:11:00

I'm just tripping, dude. You're on?

1:11:03

You throw it up. No,

1:11:05

you're going to hear it pretty violently in a

1:11:08

second. She starts pounding me. Russian. Just boom. Because

1:11:10

they want to make you

1:11:13

throw up. Really? Yes. Because

1:11:16

that gets to the heart. Getting rid

1:11:18

of the stress, getting rid of

1:11:20

the anger, get rid of the control, the

1:11:22

sadness. All that shit that's in

1:11:24

you that you hold onto about other shit that's

1:11:27

happening in you. Can

1:11:29

you drink alcohol during it? You

1:11:34

don't want to drink alcohol. You

1:11:37

can't be in there. You're

1:11:40

drinking this stuff. How often do you

1:11:42

drink it? Just once in the beginning? Once a

1:11:44

lot and then like three hours later if you

1:11:46

want to go second serving, you're going to have to

1:11:48

drink alcohol. You're going to have to drink alcohol. You're

1:11:50

going to have to drink alcohol. You're going to have

1:11:52

to drink alcohol. Once a lot and

1:11:55

then like three hours later if you want to go

1:11:57

second serving, you're going to have to drink alcohol. Did

1:11:59

you do that? It's so, it tastes so bad.

1:12:01

Really? What does it taste like? Bad

1:12:05

Jagermeister tar. I don't know. It's

1:12:07

just really nasty. The first

1:12:09

shot you could do, because you're not... I

1:12:25

love that you're throwing up in the background. What

1:12:35

was the thing you were trying to get to the bottom of? People

1:12:47

take advantage of me, because I'm a

1:12:49

nice guy. Yeah. They

1:12:52

mistake your kindness for weakness. I've

1:12:56

been there. Here it comes.

1:12:58

But you... So

1:13:02

that was one of the things you're not going to

1:13:04

take. Dude,

1:13:09

I'm getting rid of my sadness by the

1:13:11

fucking laughing. I'm

1:13:17

going to throw up. Oh

1:13:19

my God, Paulie, I'm going to throw up.

1:13:22

Oh my God. Oh

1:13:25

my God. You're

1:13:27

so crazy. You are

1:13:29

fucked. Did you eat before

1:13:31

you went? I'm

1:13:37

starting to sweat and hearing this. Oh my God.

1:13:41

It's not coming out of me again. Stop. I'm

1:13:43

going to throw up. You're not calling. Stop. I'm

1:13:45

going to throw up. Oh

1:13:55

my God. I

1:14:03

don't know if I could be in a room right here people

1:14:05

throw up. I just started throwing up. God

1:14:08

damn. Oh,

1:14:11

he's pretty talented. Oh my God. What

1:14:14

do you think? I

1:14:20

don't know if I could be in a room where

1:14:22

everyone's throwing up. I think that's my turn off. I'd

1:14:24

have to be outdoors and then people go off by

1:14:26

the side and throw up. You'll

1:14:30

be fine. Here's

1:14:35

a weird question I have for you. I'm

1:14:41

sweating listening to you throw up. Yeah.

1:14:48

So. Did

1:14:51

you accomplish what you wanted to get out of ayahuasca? It

1:14:54

definitely helped me let go of some shit.

1:14:57

Some anxiety and some

1:15:00

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1:15:05

I'll go to sleep good at night and then

1:15:07

I'll wake up maybe one time to go pee

1:15:10

and then all of a sudden my mind starts to go like this.

1:15:13

I did that. Yeah. My

1:15:15

mind starts to go like that and then sometimes I can't fall back

1:15:17

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1:15:19

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1:15:22

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1:15:26

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you just believing what the wrong people were saying

1:18:03

about you? Because I remember when you were 30,

1:18:05

I was probably 25 and

1:18:08

we fucking loved you. So

1:18:10

like it's crazy that because I've

1:18:12

been guilty of this where you read a couple

1:18:15

bad things online and then you think that's what

1:18:17

everyone thinks about you and you forget. But you're

1:18:19

different than me because you're a lot older than

1:18:21

30. So I think

1:18:23

you know, for me, 30 is pretty

1:18:25

young. 30 is very young. Yeah, 30 is pretty young.

1:18:28

Thank God I didn't go through my

1:18:30

career now then. Right.

1:18:32

Yeah, because you got harder skin now. You're

1:18:36

not as whatever. Like if something doesn't work,

1:18:38

you don't care. You just keep moving. I

1:18:40

remember I had one day where I read

1:18:42

a comment, I think I was in Tampa

1:18:44

and I had posted

1:18:46

me hitting a home run at my old

1:18:48

high school and I was really proud

1:18:50

of it. And that's the thing that trips

1:18:53

me up with Instagram. Because when you get

1:18:55

proud of something, you go like,

1:18:57

oh, check the comments. These are all going to be good. Like

1:18:59

I'm proud of this. And then I

1:19:01

read a bunch of negative ones. And

1:19:03

it was like things that like, maybe

1:19:06

I even believe about myself at times and

1:19:09

I was like, and I got really down and I

1:19:11

was really down. And I remember the thing that

1:19:14

turned around, I was like, I read

1:19:16

like, and it was like maybe three comments back to

1:19:18

back and they all like agreed with each other. And

1:19:20

I was like, motherfuckers, that what the world

1:19:23

thinks of me? And then

1:19:25

I went out on stage to 19,000 people and I

1:19:27

went, wait, why

1:19:29

wouldn't I have spent today ignoring

1:19:31

those three dudes when I know

1:19:33

there's 19,000 people that like me? They

1:19:37

want me to. Well, it's the old, it's

1:19:39

the old story, looking at your life half

1:19:41

empty as opposed to half full. Yeah.

1:19:44

And that's what I did. And to answer

1:19:46

your question, yes, I did

1:19:48

listen to people that I shouldn't have listened

1:19:50

to. Why did they, but why did, why

1:19:52

are they, why did you get to the bottom of why

1:19:55

there are voices are so much louder than why

1:19:57

are those the ones we hear? Well,

1:20:02

the critics back then were

1:20:05

more prevalent than they are now. Yeah. Well,

1:20:07

they're still out there. Yeah, but it's

1:20:09

not as... It's not what it was. No. Like,

1:20:11

Siskel and Heber. I mean, if

1:20:13

they thrashed you, they thrashed you. Did they thrash

1:20:15

you? Yeah. Really? Yes. Did

1:20:18

you ever meet them? Mm. I

1:20:21

don't think... maybe at a junction here or there,

1:20:24

and they were nice to me, like when I saw

1:20:26

them. But yeah, they would just rip my

1:20:28

movies or rip. So the

1:20:30

point is, is that you listen to that

1:20:32

and you start getting beat down. Yeah.

1:20:36

You know? And then the

1:20:38

box office at the end of the day

1:20:40

is really what we're dealing with here.

1:20:44

Because it could be a terrible movie and

1:20:46

make trillions of dollars, then no

1:20:48

one cares. But if it's

1:20:50

a movie that doesn't do well at

1:20:52

the box office and the critics thrash

1:20:54

you, then you start to believe that.

1:20:57

And that's kind of where my head was

1:20:59

at 30. So

1:21:03

like, things... the box office

1:21:05

wasn't as well, and then

1:21:07

the critics were thrashing me. But I didn't look

1:21:09

at what I did. I didn't look at what

1:21:11

I had. I

1:21:14

looked at what I didn't have. What

1:21:17

did you want most at 30? Do

1:21:20

you just want to keep doing movies? Yeah.

1:21:22

Yeah. And I said,

1:21:26

because it was so much fun starring in movies. You

1:21:28

know what I mean? And they took that away from

1:21:30

me. So that's why I said on Rogan, my first

1:21:32

time when I did Rogan is, you

1:21:35

know, he goes, when you watch your movies, how do

1:21:37

you feel? I say, I get sad. You

1:21:39

know what I mean? Because that's what my time was,

1:21:41

the funnest time of my life. I would have thought,

1:21:43

well, not MTV would have been the funnest. That

1:21:46

seemed so much fun. That was pretty

1:21:48

cool. Yeah. That was pretty cool. Just going down

1:21:51

to Spring Break and... Oh yeah. That

1:21:53

was amazing. Were you still waving

1:21:55

hacks? Yeah, no, that was amazing.

1:22:00

That's my point. The point is like, imagine

1:22:02

if Adam Sandler, imagine if they took movies

1:22:04

from him. Maybe

1:22:07

now he'd be cool with it, but like at 30. If

1:22:10

they'd taken it after Waterboy. Yeah, or

1:22:12

whatever. They just like, boom. Yeah.

1:22:15

You'd be like kind of, but also I'm

1:22:18

very sensitive. I'm very sensitive.

1:22:21

I'm very sensitive. I'm very

1:22:23

sensitive. Maybe we should start making out right now.

1:22:26

All right. You know what I mean? Tom will get jealous and then

1:22:28

we'll just whip out our dicks on

1:22:31

top of each other. Tom has to tell me at

1:22:33

time, this isn't

1:22:35

as real as you feel it is. And

1:22:37

I'll go, and he's like, Tom's

1:22:39

not sensitive. You

1:22:43

can say horrible things about Tom. And if

1:22:45

he doesn't respect you, he won't even hear them. Like

1:22:48

he just goes, you're absolutely no one.

1:22:50

Like a lawyer, right? Yeah. Like called

1:22:52

like a lawyer, like Trump. Yeah. You

1:22:55

don't, I don't have to respect you for them to hurt

1:22:57

my feelings. And Tom will say to me, even

1:23:00

like even through our friendship with Rogan, there's been

1:23:02

times when I butted heads with Rogan or

1:23:04

bumped into Rogan and Tom's like, I

1:23:07

like, like, like when we do sober

1:23:09

October, it would get pretty fucking

1:23:12

intense towards the end. Cause

1:23:14

none of all of us have been sober for a month. We're

1:23:16

all working out like crazy and Rogan will

1:23:18

send like a text and I'd read it wrong. And

1:23:20

Tom would be like, hey, that's

1:23:22

not what you think. Let it go. And

1:23:24

then, or I would get so

1:23:27

competitive with Joe sober October

1:23:30

that Tom would be like, Hey, remember

1:23:32

we're all just comedians. We're not professional athletes.

1:23:35

You gotta stop. I get, would get so

1:23:37

in my fucking head that I

1:23:39

just would be like, yeah,

1:23:41

I'm massively sensitive. Would you trade

1:23:44

it though? They

1:23:47

said they could give you a pill and then they'd be like, you

1:23:49

won't be a sensitive. Oh, no, no, no. I

1:23:52

like being sensitive because that's who I am. Yeah.

1:23:55

But I like, I go back to the movie

1:23:57

thing, you know, I had 20 years that could

1:23:59

have been starting. in movies. And

1:24:01

I didn't. I could have been doing beautiful

1:24:03

stuff for the people. Did you

1:24:06

turn down anything that got made? I

1:24:08

don't remember. Really? I don't remember.

1:24:10

I don't know. Probably. But,

1:24:13

you know, um, but yeah,

1:24:15

I mean, uh... I turned down

1:24:17

some movie or TV show called Succession or

1:24:19

something and I was like, I

1:24:21

read the script and I was like, it's not for me. That was

1:24:24

a big show. It is? Isn't it? Succession?

1:24:26

Is it big? I think so. I didn't even know if

1:24:28

they made it. I

1:24:31

don't know. I'm kidding. It wasn't Succession. It was a

1:24:33

different show. And the director

1:24:35

called me and was like, what are

1:24:37

you doing? I was like, I don't want to do it. And

1:24:40

he was like, why? I was like, I

1:24:42

don't know. I don't...

1:24:45

Yeah. And I didn't have a reason. I

1:24:47

just didn't like... Yeah, you weren't feeling it. I

1:24:51

do turn down things a lot. Yeah. You

1:24:54

know, a lot. I mean, if you put it up

1:24:56

like that way. I don't turn down stand

1:24:58

up ever. If you tell me, hey, we

1:25:00

want you to do the fucking Cluesic Cino

1:25:02

next week. I'm like, oh, cool. I'm there.

1:25:05

I never turn down sets. I never turn down

1:25:07

spots. I never turn down anything. It's

1:25:09

hard when I get texts from guys who do Tuesday nights

1:25:11

and they're like, yo, can you hop on my show? I'm

1:25:13

always like, fuck. It's right over the hill. Of course. I'll

1:25:16

be there. And then immediately I'll

1:25:18

talk to Emily and be like, okay, can

1:25:20

you put me in every room? I've

1:25:23

never... You can pop around. Yeah. I

1:25:25

never turn down stand up. But acting,

1:25:27

I've turned down because I've... It's a

1:25:29

lot. It's a real commitment. It's a

1:25:31

big commitment. So to

1:25:33

flip and we've been talking about my

1:25:35

shit a lot. Let's

1:25:37

talk about some of your shit. Okay. You know, stuff

1:25:39

that you're... I

1:25:43

mean, I watch you just

1:25:45

like everyone else watches you. It's

1:25:48

pretty remarkable. Oh, thank you.

1:25:50

What you've done. Thank you very much.

1:25:52

I mean, you know, and is

1:25:55

it hard for you to look around

1:25:57

and see all your success? And

1:25:59

see that. that like, I mean, you've done so well.

1:26:01

I mean, I saw you at, you

1:26:04

know, at fucking MGM in front of 20,000

1:26:06

people. Like it's

1:26:08

pretty remarkable what you've done. Like, and I've been around,

1:26:10

I told this to Tom too, I've

1:26:13

been around everyone. I mean,

1:26:15

everyone from, you know, back in the 70s to, you

1:26:17

know what I mean? And the stuff you

1:26:20

guys are doing is just insane. I

1:26:22

mean, you pinch yourself. I mean, do you

1:26:24

realize how big you and Tom are when

1:26:26

you walk out on those crowds? I mean,

1:26:28

it's fucking remarkable. I get,

1:26:31

I have a moment, I have

1:26:33

a moment of awareness. You're like, you

1:26:35

pinch yourself, right? Yeah, because I play Fortune and Sun

1:26:37

every time I come out on stage and I feel

1:26:39

like, I feel like it really speaks to

1:26:41

how I feel. And I

1:26:45

do that when I go, when I do my own shows,

1:26:47

I will look up at the, you can

1:26:49

always see the center, you know, Jumbotron

1:26:52

and it'll just say like Amway Center or it'll

1:26:54

say whatever it is. And I always look at

1:26:56

that and go, I'm

1:27:00

really fucking lucky. I am really fucking lucky to be

1:27:02

here. But you worked hard. I mean, you pushed. I

1:27:04

worked hard, but there's also a lot of luck. Yeah,

1:27:06

yeah, yeah. Like, you know, like

1:27:09

there's- Well, you guys grind. I grind, I

1:27:11

think I- You grind more than anyone. I

1:27:13

don't think, I don't think I slow down

1:27:15

enough to be able to pinch

1:27:17

myself. Cause I keep going, it's, that's all

1:27:19

behind me. I got to look at what's ahead of me and I got to keep

1:27:22

hustling so that things ahead of me are

1:27:24

still going to happen. And I

1:27:27

don't, like I try not, I'm

1:27:29

very grateful and I'm very filled with joy.

1:27:31

And I'm very like present in

1:27:33

like how blessed I am to have

1:27:35

what I have. And, but

1:27:38

at the same time, I don't really spend too

1:27:40

much time like feeling

1:27:42

it. Do you think

1:27:45

about all the plates you're spinning at

1:27:47

once and how hard that is? I

1:27:50

mean, that's a lot of fucking work, bro. I

1:27:53

mean, you're doing a Netflix special. You're

1:27:56

doing, you know, this, you're doing that.

1:27:58

You got 10 podcasts here. You got the

1:28:01

touring you got movies you got I mean

1:28:03

it's a lot of stuff. Yeah, do you

1:28:05

ever? Do you

1:28:07

ever say hey, you know? I'm gonna take two

1:28:09

or threes out and then maybe not do that

1:28:11

stuff or you're just like locked in and you're

1:28:13

just fucking Let's roll. I have I

1:28:16

think number the one number one thing this changed Everything

1:28:18

is me pulling my drinking back. It has made life

1:28:20

a lot easier. That's good It was really difficult when

1:28:22

I was drinking the way I was because I was

1:28:24

always you definitely lost weight, right? I lost 45

1:28:27

Yeah, yeah, you definitely lost weight. So that's good. No, how old

1:28:29

are you now? 51 51 so you're not a kid So

1:28:34

this is good that you stopped all that shit. Yeah, I

1:28:36

have an doctor's appointment tomorrow. You know my blood work done

1:28:38

That's great. You go to the sauna a lot. I saw

1:28:40

it every day. I have a sauna in my I saw

1:28:43

it at my house Yeah, I saw it every day. I

1:28:45

pour a plunge every day. Oh good. Yeah I'm

1:28:49

I'm on like I'm I'm on I've just

1:28:51

see the cardiologist every six months. Great. So

1:28:53

it's not getting away from me And

1:28:55

then what about your diet? I eat

1:28:57

I'm carnivore So I eat a

1:28:59

lot of beef a lot of a lot of meat

1:29:02

and a lot of protein Cool, and then very seldomly

1:29:04

other stuff like a poor crime and

1:29:06

then you're what you have one sister two sisters

1:29:08

Oh, no, they both open. Are they Mary? Cottie

1:29:12

is when you met is and then the other one's got

1:29:14

a boyfriend But yeah, and

1:29:16

then George's in college. I'll go to

1:29:18

college next year I'm taking seven

1:29:20

months off in July when July starts. I'm gonna

1:29:22

take time off for the first time But

1:29:25

cuz I just feel like I'd ever Like

1:29:28

I really I took seven weeks off as a long

1:29:30

as I've ever taken off right after fully loaded but

1:29:32

was really like to get my life back together and

1:29:35

I lost all this weight. I got healthy and

1:29:37

I got really fucking happy. Wow. I was like

1:29:40

really we always wore joy I find

1:29:42

joy every day. I wake up I look

1:29:44

for my joy and Leanne supports you and

1:29:46

all this stuff helping you out and oh,

1:29:48

yeah, he's stoked She's she's got to be

1:29:50

super stoked that you lost weight and you're

1:29:52

not Fucking as nuts as

1:29:54

you were because you know, we

1:29:56

all see people like I don't want to say Chris

1:29:58

Farley, but could have gone there. It

1:30:01

could have gone, by the way, very easily. I

1:30:04

said, I'm nervous about my doctor's appointment tomorrow, and I go,

1:30:06

what if my numbers aren't better? And

1:30:09

she goes, they can't be worse. Really? She

1:30:12

goes, I mean, you were really unhealthy the last time

1:30:14

you went to the cardiologist. You were 275 pounds. She's

1:30:18

like, you know, I think you're going to be okay. Even

1:30:21

after ayahuasca, like, because before you do ayahuasca,

1:30:23

you're not supposed to, before you do it,

1:30:25

you're supposed to cleanse yourself and not supposed

1:30:27

to drink. You're not supposed to eat this,

1:30:29

which I did, and I stuck to it.

1:30:32

And then afterwards, you're not supposed to drink, you

1:30:34

know what I mean? I stuck to it. And

1:30:36

even now, it's like, I just don't feel like

1:30:38

drinking a lot, you know what I mean? But

1:30:40

I like to drink. I went, I had a

1:30:42

nice glass of wine the other night. You

1:30:45

know, I just don't, you

1:30:47

know. Do you like the buzz of alcohol or just the

1:30:49

taste? Mm,

1:30:51

both. Yeah. Yeah, I like wine. Yeah.

1:30:55

Wine's good. I like some red wine with a piece

1:30:57

of meat. Oh. Yeah, like

1:30:59

there's nothing wrong with that. I sit at Allegro at the Wynn

1:31:02

right there and sit there. It's nice. But

1:31:06

I don't know. I think, like, you know, I don't

1:31:09

know. You know, I don't know. I think I'm

1:31:11

just lucky that I didn't have that, you know,

1:31:13

thing. But back to you,

1:31:16

I'm happy for you, for yourself,

1:31:19

you know, to, because

1:31:21

of all the love around you and all the people that

1:31:23

love you is to take

1:31:25

care of yourself. And you are. So

1:31:27

that's great. Because I never

1:31:31

spent a lot of time with you, but I'm a fan. And

1:31:34

I always watch your stuff. And I'm happy

1:31:36

that you're okay. Thank you,

1:31:38

buddy. Yeah. Well, this

1:31:40

has been a great fucking podcast. Thank you for doing this, Paulie.

1:31:43

Yeah, for sure. I've been a fan of yours for so fucking

1:31:45

long. Thank you. And it's so cool

1:31:47

to even what you just said to me. It means a lot

1:31:49

to me. And I think you

1:31:51

probably get that more than other people because

1:31:53

we are kind of the same sensitive person.

1:31:56

So to get love like that means the world to me. Yeah.

1:31:59

Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got to

1:32:01

plan our ayahuasca trip. Yeah, we should. For sure. So

1:32:04

we can throw up together. It's going

1:32:06

to be like killing banjos of throw up.

1:32:09

Just, I throw up

1:32:11

violently. Like break blood

1:32:13

vessels. Like I'm bad. It's

1:32:17

called purging. That's what they call it. They

1:32:20

don't call it throwing up. I'm like, it's fucking called

1:32:22

throwing up. They're like, no, it's purging. I call it

1:32:24

dieting. Yeah. It's a great way to

1:32:26

lose weight. Congratulations on all

1:32:28

your stuff. You guys were great at the

1:32:31

MGM. Thank you, brother. And good to

1:32:33

go. I love you, brother.