Zane Simon, Associate Editor for Bloody Elbow and host of the MMA Vivisection, joins Fernanda to discuss Ciryl Gane's interim championship victory at UFC 265, Zane's process for fight analysis, the average lifespan of an MMA fan, becoming (mildly) indispensable at your job, Joe Rogan's "commentary," MMA's ongoing problem with bro science, and more.

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