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fuss is about. The
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working woman's newest life hack, Magic
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Mushrooms, which longtime listeners
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will understand as being right up our
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alley. The subhead is, for
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a select group of moms
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in high-powered jobs, Psilocybin has
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become the answer to a
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packed social and professional calendar
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with no time for hangovers.
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And I mean, I think that sort of
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tells the broad strokes of it right
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there. One woman who
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microdoses psilocybin capsules said, quote,
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I work hundreds of hours a
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week and it helps my performance.
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It allows me to be my best self. And
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there's a lot of problems with
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that. I
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guess taking it as granted that one
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must work hundreds of hours a
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week and take drugs
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in order to make that possible.
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There's the other problem that taking
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her at her work. hundreds of hours at the
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minimum of 200 hours a week, which would be
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28 hours a day, seven days a week. And
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I think, you know, if she's hepatic math, I
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wonder how good her best self
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would be if she wasn't on. She's
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just on drugs doing this interview.
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Yeah, possibly. She's
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unlocked. Time-space continuum. That's how
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good herself is. Right.
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She has more hours, actually. Yeah, that's
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what's going on. Okay. Okay. No, that's
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fair. I actually hadn't thought of that.
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She probably experiences 35
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hours a day and only works 28 of them. And
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so these one being interviewed talk about how,
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you know, in their social circle at least,
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you know, eight out of 10 women at
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a gathering will all openly talk about how
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they're microdosing mushrooms, which
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is pretty interesting, but
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it's definitely a window into the economic, social,
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other variables that impart the sort
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of privilege on a person where
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they can do illegal drugs and
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just feel totally cool about it
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and describe it literally, quote, as
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the new glass of
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wine. Just for them,
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it's as cash as the new glass of wine. Do
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they mention their source? Were there
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source in these? No,
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they keep their sources secret because
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they do at least understand that it
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is illegal and they shouldn't go around narking,
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even on accident. Isn't
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that just like what on Wall
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Street, a bunch of execs and
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answers doing coke? Just to
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keep it going. I
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had the absolute same thought. This just
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sounds like the stories
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I've heard about cocaine in the 80s.
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That's just what this sounds like. It's
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performance enhancing in a sense. It's
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totally widespread, totally accepted.
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Totally illegal. Totally
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illegal and whether or not people think it's
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fun or effective or both,
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they do it and then
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go to work. As we've
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talked about mushrooms quite a bit on
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this podcast and it is so antithetical
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to everything we've talked about with the
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use of mushrooms. Not one time
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have I thought, you know, it would be a great
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use for this so that I
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could work hundreds of hours a week. What
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are the jobs that they're
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doing that you would want to spend
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this much time working? Also, like if you're
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talking about at your social hours, maybe
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she's considering that work. Like
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she's, you know, networking instead of
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enjoying her company of other human
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beings. Like a human being,
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she's always grinding. It's
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mushrooms. Like cocaine? Sure.
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Right. It's a terrible
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drug for terrible
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people but mushrooms, get
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in touch with yourself, lady. Maybe
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don't microdose. Maybe take a gigantic dose.
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Right. She's taking too
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little. That's what it is. That's
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exactly what I was going to say
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is that the problem is the microdosing
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because, I mean, on one hand,
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I guess if you have this work to do, it
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does make it sound more pleasant. It sounds
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that you grab a task and really sink
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your teeth into it. It's
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also great for a brainstorming session. If I
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have an open day, I get a pen
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and paper and get some ideas out. That's
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all in the context of having just microdosed.
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But yeah, if they macrodosed, then
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they may realize that they should
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just quit their fucking jobs. Well,
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and I think part of that is probably
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that they can't, right? Now they've gotten
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to a certain point where to maintain
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their lifestyle, they have to keep grinding. They
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have to keep making whatever
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income they're making. from their job. But
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it is as someone who enjoys mushrooms
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on the occasion, right? It's sad to
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now see that it's being marketed as
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just another way to keep capitalism grinding.
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And I don't see the
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difference between this, like we
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said, cocaine, people who use cigarettes
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to calm their anxiety, and you
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know, their stress about certain things.
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I think people are always looking for
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something to cope. Because at
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the end of the day, we all are subjected
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to the system that we're living under. Now, we
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can have a debate because obviously, this is a
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higher class of people that are using mushrooms. And
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that's how they're coping. But I
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still think it's maladaptive coping. Anything that
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you take, even if you enjoy it,
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just to get through something, there is
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a problem. That would be the same
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with I think there was a rise
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that people consuming edibles and doing things
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like that, which again, like take an
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edible and play some video games. That's
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great. Watch a weird movie, like super
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fun. But I can't imagine
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thinking like, if I just take
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this edible, I'll be able to get two
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more hours of work out of myself. Like,
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if I just take this little dose of
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mushrooms, I can push forward and get through
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this presentation. Yes, at some point, you need
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to take a step back, maybe
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micro dose, and just reevaluate
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a job that's asking you to work
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more than 40 hours, when
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they're clearly paying you for 40 hours of work.
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You know, it is funny, it's like humans really don't
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like the fact that we have limits. So
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we're constantly seeking something
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to push us beyond our
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limits and make us superhuman,
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just not satisfied with
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the fact that, yeah, maybe we hit our
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max, maybe that means we should calm down
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or take a step back. Let's just take
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something that will give
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us all the energy and
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ability or make us think we have
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all the energy and ability because probably
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going to crash no matter what. Is
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this group of women married to men doing
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the ice bath and things like that? that
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they can get a little more out of it. Like...
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Almost certainly. Speaking
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of baths though, moving on to the
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middle class, we have different ways of
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coping if you can't afford
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or get the
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special invite to microdose mushrooms.
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I want to tell you about this article that I did
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not send around because I didn't want to depress everyone. I
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didn't want to force anyone to read this. I
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just want to summarize it. There was an
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article from Reader's Digest. Stress
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less is the headline.
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Yes, it's possible. Every
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part of your body will thank you. Now,
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the entire article is
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dedicated to all of the ways that stress
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will kill you. And
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the subtopics within the article include
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your brain, your head, jaw,
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and shoulders, your gut,
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your heart, your lungs, your
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skin, your reproductive system, and
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your muscles and joints. And
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they spend more than 20 paragraphs
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describing why you're going to
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die from stress. Everything
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up to this point has been
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you are going to be murdered
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by stress. And then this is the
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end of the article. That
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stress can kill is a terrifying
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thought. Unless you turn it
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upside down, you can
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counteract all of this with some simple
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tricks to lower your experience of stress.
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For me, that's yoga, a
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10-minute morning meditation and
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a monthly massage. For you, it could
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be something even easier. Studies
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prove that just closing your
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eyes and breathing deeply can
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help reduce and regulate your
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cortisol level wherever you
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are right now and for
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free. The end. Reader's
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Digest has solved your stress. Look,
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I have no doubt that scientifically,
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doing those things lowers your cortisol
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levels for that very moment. But
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if you were living your
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life on the edge of being murdered by stress,
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that ain't gonna do it. Yeah.
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And to me, I mean, basically, that's America
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in a nutshell is like, everything
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systemically is going to kill you. But
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if you individually take a tiny amount
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of action, arguably, that
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might help. Good luck. And
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honestly, it reeks of Al Gore saying
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that the Greenland
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ice sheet is gonna melt into
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North Atlantic. But if you
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buy a new light bulb, maybe
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we'll stop it. You know, it's
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like the solution has to match
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the gravity of the problem, right?
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That's not a dig at Al Gore saying that there
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was a problem. It is a dig on the
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biggest problem with the Inconvenient Truth was that
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he didn't go far enough with the solutions,
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which actually brings us to there's an interesting difference
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between the US and
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European burnout management books. So
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like when you're feeling burned out, and then you
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look for a self help book in
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the US, basically, just like that readers
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try this article, we're given strategies to
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just grin and bear it, right? And
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in the EU, it's basically taken
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as granted that you can take
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extended paid leave from your job
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to help recover from burnout. So
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the advice that they give about
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how to manage burnout is,
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okay, so you're on six weeks of
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leave, let's work through how you can
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make use of that time, or, okay,
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so you've been off your job for
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three months to recover from your burnout.
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Let's talk about how to reintegrate with
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the working world books like that couldn't be sold
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in the US, it wouldn't
11:52
make any sense. The context is
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so different. On one hand, it's
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wild that those two continents approach
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human health. so differently, but
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then, as was pointed out, I think, Aaron,
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you said this before we started recording. Yeah,
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on one hand, the EU
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is really mindful about people's health, but
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on the other hand, they still maintain the same economic
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system that drives people to the same levels of burnout.
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So, you went and you lose
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them. When you were offering at
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the end of the Reader's Digest, which I
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think I accidentally read that article just through
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a series of clicking on to different articles,
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and it infuriated me when I got to
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that end. But under what context
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would that not make me mad? Maybe
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if I ordered flowers for someone
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and I was worried that they weren't
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going to be correct or look
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as great as they did in the
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picture, maybe closing my eyes and taking
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a deep breath might re-situate things. If
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I'm worried about taking bills and how
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am I going to make rent? Am
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I going to be kicked out? What
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would homelessness look like for me or
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houselessness? Those things, there's no
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amount of breathing that can re-center
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me and bring me back to a place
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where I don't feel stressed about that. That's
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