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2:00

recording this episode on I

2:03

Rather Special Die. Today

2:07

I crossed into the

2:09

threshold of fourteen years

2:11

of sobriety. Five thousand,

2:13

One Hundred and fourteen

2:15

days. of not

2:17

drinking or using and a pretty much done

2:19

it exactly the same way every day. Early

2:22

on i was overwhelmed with how else am

2:24

far from going to do this and with

2:26

am going to get have going to do

2:28

this have done this my whole life since

2:31

i was fourteen on the had a deal

2:33

with anything. Without. Drinking and David

2:35

demand he kept his the ship and

2:37

fab my sobriety adventures. He said listen

2:39

to our way to do is get

2:41

to bed tonight without drinking or using

2:43

tie yourself down her anybody else get

2:45

help if you need to try to

2:47

help someone else He began to make

2:50

a mistake. try to make it right

2:52

as quick as possible can and they

2:54

get settled. The Polite: Sleeping soundly nine

2:56

you've done a perfectly and are you

2:58

going to do is get smarter? The

3:00

sexy. Secret

3:05

of. Process

3:09

One hundred fourteen dice of is doing

3:12

that. Is

3:15

absolutely no question that had I not

3:17

stopped drinking and using of I would

3:19

not. Be. Here that. I'm

3:22

it wouldn't happened. Getting

3:26

sorry bar is ones. Staying

3:29

sober. Isn't up?

3:33

At first it's pretty clear what you

3:35

gotta do it cause the whole thing's

3:37

very new at essentially loading an entirely

3:39

new way of life, you getting a

3:41

whole new social circle of friends around

3:43

you. But this can't be around your

3:46

other friends because they're the ones with

3:48

booze in the bags and whatever. Say

3:50

he letting his whole new way of

3:52

law? She got a whole new way

3:54

of doing things you clarity like you

3:56

haven't had been for years decades in

3:58

my case and. It's

4:00

all very kind of spilled out for it the

4:02

first couple months, which was pretty clear. Don't

4:05

mean I used to do it is nothing.

4:08

But as you can I get a bit of time

4:10

up. He

4:13

do realize that the

4:15

problems which. Came.

4:17

From you drinking. Then

4:19

on. a daily occurrence anymore. Like

4:22

bet. He

4:24

allowed pay bills or the divorces,

4:26

the career destructions or like on

4:29

a shit that I said we

4:31

were threats those things that happen

4:34

every day. However,

4:36

the problems that you are

4:38

drinking to avoid. Die

4:40

kind of link at the problems that are

4:43

you using alcohol to deal with this deal

4:45

that. And he actually and have

4:47

to deal with that stuff. You gotta. Work.

4:50

On the reason say you were drinking. If

4:53

you have any freedom at often. Morning

4:55

to do the drinking. But

4:58

the way the drinking works. Is

5:01

that it affects our memory. And

5:03

so we don't associate this thing that

5:06

we did. The. Heard

5:08

that we caused the hurt

5:10

that we felt. we. The.

5:13

Action or the moment or the person

5:15

or the situation. So we never learn

5:17

from those moments who we just keep

5:19

doing the same shit again and again.

5:21

I guess not only that but it

5:23

also stance or emotional development and what

5:26

ended up happening with may. As

5:28

of an awesome tricky knows thirty six year old

5:30

man. Brought former thirty

5:32

six best I. Saw

5:34

thirty six year old man with the

5:37

emotional skill set of a strange and

5:39

in secure fourteen year old boy who

5:41

had very, very odd ideas about self.

5:44

And. No concept whatsoever of boundaries.

5:48

Is fair to say that with both of our kids

5:50

one of them twenty. Die

5:53

have more emotional navigational skills

5:55

than I do, and one

5:57

of them is for. I

5:59

do help him. Learn how to

6:02

deal with his big feelings. I can't deal

6:04

with more. Detail is quite as well as

6:06

a Us. that's interesting of

6:08

other khyber. So

6:12

how does a grown man trying to put

6:14

his last back together go forward with the

6:16

fuck do you do? So.

6:20

What I did is I. I.

6:23

Knew enough and on been told just

6:25

asked people have done it before. And

6:28

do what they tell you to do. And

6:32

I did. And

6:34

I did. And it worked out.

6:38

So in honor. Of.

6:40

Fourteen years of not drinking

6:43

today. I present

6:45

to you fourteen things which I

6:47

learned from people who no way

6:49

better than I do about how

6:52

to live. Every

6:54

day. Without. Drinking or using and

6:56

these of fourteen things that I do every

6:58

single bite is way more. but I just

7:00

picked forty. Number

7:02

One. Acceptance. Is

7:05

extraordinary. Quite that applies for everything

7:07

and apply for chronic pain as

7:09

my says it will for climate,

7:12

anxiety and traffic. And

7:14

supply. Ah, it's

7:17

from of the big book,

7:19

especially So Angry by Bill

7:21

W, headed up by Alcoholics

7:23

Anonymous in the nineteen thirties.

7:25

But. It's everywhere in pain clinics.

7:27

It's all over the place. It's about acceptance.

7:30

Acceptance is the answer to all

7:32

my problems Today when understood is

7:34

because I suppose imply sing or

7:36

situation sub sector my wife unacceptable

7:38

to me and I can find

7:40

no serenity until I accept that

7:42

person place, thing or situations as

7:44

being exactly the way it's supposed

7:46

to be at that moment. i

7:51

dare say that the big book

7:53

has alcoholics anonymous is probably the

7:55

most successful most profoundly impactful self

7:57

help book ever published And

8:00

I don't know if he realized

8:02

it, but Bill W essentially

8:05

created cognitive behavioral therapy in

8:08

that paragraph, all right? Essentially

8:12

things happen. What

8:15

we make them mean is

8:18

how they affect us. Traffic

8:22

can happen and

8:24

you can waste energy being shitty at it, or

8:27

you can go, there's traffic. Understanding

8:31

that there's nothing that you can do

8:33

that'll make the traffic change and

8:38

then figuring out what to do next. Acceptance,

8:43

which was very hard for me to get to sometimes,

8:45

particularly when I was quite sick, acceptance

8:47

is the number one thing that has absolutely changed

8:50

my life and is the thing that really helps

8:52

me every single day.

8:54

There's the ramped up version of acceptance, which

8:57

is number two, let

8:59

go or get dragged. Now

9:02

that was given to me

9:04

before my obsessive compulsive disorder

9:06

diagnosis, but it makes sense, all

9:08

right? Because I'm someone who can't let go of

9:11

stuff. I focus on things. It's

9:13

made me very good at my career because I

9:15

just don't stop until something's done. But if

9:18

I am fixating on a particular

9:20

thing, oh man, it's

9:24

bad. And this guy just said to me,

9:27

he's an American fella. He says, let

9:29

go or get dragged, dude. Like,

9:31

you know what? That's a good idea. That's a

9:33

really good idea. The third thing

9:35

that has really helped me get to 14 years is

9:39

other people who aren't drinking, other

9:41

sober people. I was taught very

9:43

early on, before you pick up a drink, pick up a

9:45

phone. That way you can, whatever

9:48

this thing is that is bothering you so much,

9:50

you think the only way to deal with this

9:52

discomfort is to drink, pick up

9:54

a phone and check it. Check

9:57

what's going on with someone else's head. Tell them,

9:59

you know. I'm thinking of drinking, can you

10:01

stick on the phone with me for five minutes? Yeah, yeah, sure. And

10:05

just understanding that if I put my trust in

10:07

someone who has my best interests at heart, who's

10:10

using their brain to think about my problem, their

10:14

solution is probably going to be way better than whatever I

10:16

come up with. Because I know

10:18

what my solution looks like, and I know that

10:21

I don't want to get involved in that kind of

10:23

destruction to myself or others again. So

10:26

I'll just trust what they tell me to do, and

10:29

I would, and I do, and

10:31

it always works out far better. The

10:34

fourth thing, number four, there's

10:37

only this moment, or

10:39

another way of putting it, is that this too

10:41

shall pass. Where

10:44

people tell me, hey, congratulations, 14 years, congratulations. I

10:46

just said, look, I did it a day at

10:48

a time. It's

10:51

classic. I do it a day at a time. Sometimes

10:53

I do it an hour at a time. And

10:56

when it was really bad, when I was going through the

10:58

psychosis and everything, I was doing it five minutes at a

11:00

time. And

11:04

it's really important to remember, and I did the maths on this because

11:06

I wanted to explain

11:10

how it feels. Because when you're in the moment, it

11:13

feels like there's absolutely no possible solution

11:16

except to, I've got a drink, I've got

11:18

to use it, I've got to score, I've got to, I've got to,

11:20

I cannot be with this thing. Or

11:22

can you last five more minutes? Because

11:25

no mental state is a permanent state, and in

11:27

five minutes, chances are things will be a little

11:30

bit different. And

11:32

you get to five minutes, and things are a little bit

11:34

different. And you see if you can do five more. And

11:37

yeah, sure enough, 15, 20, 35 minutes, an hour has passed.

11:41

Oh, okay, I made it.

11:44

In those 14 years, and I did the thumbs,

11:46

in those 14 years, I have had 88,369,925 minutes

11:52

chunks. Now

11:55

I did those thumbs because yeah, when you're in the moment, it

11:57

feels like it's never going to end. But

12:00

if you put that into, that's a

12:02

colossal number. If you put that into perspective, even

12:05

these five minutes, it's terrible. There's

12:07

88,369,919 other five minute chunks that

12:12

will be different. And

12:15

I guarantee you, even in those 88 million or so five

12:19

minute moments of my life, even if 10,000 of them

12:21

were awful, the

12:24

vast, vast majority of the

12:26

time it was kind of okay. And

12:29

being able to understand that it's just this

12:32

moment, this tiny little moment of

12:34

my life, which is very long, really

12:36

helps you make a far

12:38

better decision than

12:41

picking up a drink or making a fungal.

12:44

The fifth thing is it's

12:47

a mini bar move, which I love,

12:50

which kind of goes for all things, just strategies of dealing

12:52

with going and socializing with

12:54

drinking. For example, I was on

12:56

the Gold Coast for a keynote last week and

12:59

whenever I check into a hotel, I tell

13:01

the people who are booking their room or if I'm

13:03

booking it or whatever, even if I check in and

13:05

I've just found a hotel, I always

13:07

say, can you send someone from housekeeping up to the

13:09

room to please take all the booze out of the

13:11

mini bar? I'm never gonna drink

13:13

it, but the ram that

13:16

it takes up in my head,

13:18

just chatting at me, I'm never gonna

13:20

do it. But it's like, I could use that bandwidth

13:23

for other things. And that's

13:25

been really, really useful. I'm very

13:27

careful about when I show up to an

13:29

event, I usually get there after the first

13:31

couple of drinks have happened and if you

13:33

see a smoke bomb, that's because I've just

13:36

left, I fanned them. I

13:38

know when to fold them. A

13:40

trick I used to pull is I

13:42

get there maybe half an hour after anyone's supposed

13:44

to meet us at eight, I get there at

13:46

8.30, run around, see everyone

13:48

grab their phone, take a photo with their phone, chat,

13:50

chat, chat, blah, blah, blah, blah, see them have two,

13:53

three more drinks, they just start to tell you the

13:55

same story a minute after they've just told you a

13:57

story around drink number four, gone.

14:00

next day, text, hey, great to

14:02

see you last night. Yeah, we heard you somewhere else. Going through the

14:04

photos, they see you, you were there. Boom,

14:06

brilliant. I'm, you know, home watching

14:08

Gamora at 11 p.m. It's

14:11

magnificent. The sixth thing, it's

14:14

really doing the work. And this

14:16

is a daily thing. Drinking

14:19

and using is

14:22

an avoided behavior. It's avoiding being

14:24

with an uncomfortable feeling. What's

14:26

the uncomfortable feeling that you're avoiding? You've got

14:28

to learn what those things

14:30

are, why you can't be with

14:32

it, and learning how to be

14:34

with it, figuring it out. There's ways to do the

14:37

work. It's something that, there's a

14:39

big chunk of it that starts when you get first

14:41

gets sober in the way that I did. And

14:44

there's, you know, kind of a maintenance way of doing

14:46

it every day. And I do

14:48

do it every day. It's really, really important.

14:50

And I stay on top

14:52

of it. You don't accidentally get super fit.

14:55

You stay fit, right? You don't

14:57

accidentally have huge muscles. You

15:00

keep training and keep eating to keep those muscles

15:03

on, right? If you haven't flown

15:05

a plane in 10 years, I don't want to get

15:07

behind the, you know, behind you in a small aircraft

15:09

while you take off. You might be a bit rusty.

15:11

You've got to keep up with it. You've got to

15:13

keep fresh. You've got to keep doing it. And it's

15:16

just a daily practice. It's pretty easy. It's really useful.

15:18

It helps me get really productive, which is good. The

15:22

seventh thing, it's all about

15:24

humility. It's all about being humble, understanding

15:26

that I don't have the answers. My

15:29

brain will tell me that it's got the answers. My brain

15:31

will tell me that it's the rightest of right things and

15:33

knows exactly what to do. But

15:35

I know enough that if what I've tried isn't

15:38

working, just

15:40

stop trying to push the pull door and just ask

15:43

someone, how do I figure this out? And

15:45

understanding that those people who have my best interests at heart will

15:47

guide me in the right direction. And I just do what they

15:50

tell me to do. And it

15:52

pretty much always works out okay. But

15:56

if my ego gets in the way, it's

15:58

not a good time. So

16:01

humility is a big deal. The

16:03

eighth thing, as I mentioned before, it's

16:05

being there for others. Being there for

16:07

other people who are earlier in

16:10

this sobriety journey than I am. I was

16:12

texting someone last night at

16:14

11 o'clock or something, whatever, last night. And

16:18

they were a bit concerned like, it's 11 o'clock, I'm texting. You're

16:20

like, mate, you don't understand. If I talk

16:22

to you or if I text you and I spend 10

16:24

minutes texting back and forth with you, that's 10 minutes where

16:26

I'm not dealing with my shit and I'm not dealing with

16:29

the noise in my head. And it actually

16:31

makes me feel really good

16:34

to help another person. So don't ever

16:36

hesitate. And that is the key

16:39

to happiness is to help other people. And that's a really

16:41

important thing to do. The

16:44

ninth thing is

16:46

to act as if I talked

16:49

about this before, but certainly when it comes to not

16:52

drinking, even though you may

16:54

not believe you're a person that doesn't drink, if

16:56

you tell people, no, I don't drink, they'll

16:59

treat you as if you don't drink. And

17:01

before you know it, you're a person

17:03

that in their eyes doesn't drink. And as

17:05

you get around and go through life, people

17:08

know you are someone who doesn't drink. And guess what, you

17:10

become someone who doesn't drink. Even

17:12

though you might not believe it at first, if you start

17:14

labeling yourself as it and start acting as if you're that

17:17

person, it really, really works. Pretty quickly,

17:19

though, I just started telling people the truth. How

17:21

come you don't want to be someone terrible alcoholic? And

17:24

my wife and family and kids and mortgage

17:26

and super and everything will vanish. Maybe not

17:28

tomorrow. But before the end of the year,

17:30

if I have a drink, so thank

17:32

you. I didn't expand

17:35

that much. But yeah, it's not

17:37

for me. The four to go.

17:40

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talking about the 14 things that have helped me today to stay

19:38

sober for 14 years. This

19:41

is just today. All right. We're up to

19:43

number 10. Number 10

19:45

is a big one and that's breathing.

19:49

The substances that

19:51

I was imbibing, whether

19:53

they be liquid or tablet

19:56

or powder form, they

19:59

were pushing. switches in my brain to

20:01

make my body feel in a particular way. And

20:05

I found relief from the stress

20:07

and anxiety and noises in my head from

20:11

those buttons being pushed. I

20:13

did not know that if

20:16

I did particular things to my body

20:18

and I did certain things in a

20:20

certain order, I could

20:22

replicate, in fact, I could

20:25

eclipse the feeling of

20:27

any of those substances and all of those

20:29

compounds are within my own body. I did

20:31

not know that. But

20:33

now I do. Breathing, unbelievable.

20:38

I know you're doing it right now. I'm doing it too. Deliberately

20:41

breathing in particular ways, particularly

20:43

polyvagal breathing or what's called the

20:46

physiological sigh or

20:48

box breathing or what's it's

20:50

called the one that Wim Hof does that

20:53

yogic one, the breath of fire, I think

20:55

is called unbelievable.

20:57

I've been so high just

21:00

from that. And as well as

21:02

that is that doing this new

21:04

documentary we did about chronic pain, I learned a

21:07

lot about pain's importance and

21:09

pain's role in helping us understand what

21:11

pleasure is. And by

21:13

doing uncomfortable things or doing difficult

21:15

things, you

21:17

know, lifting weights, sauna, ice bath, that sort

21:20

of thing, an experience

21:22

of pleasure right after that can

21:25

be unbelievable. There's

21:27

a moment in the new film where we

21:30

demonstrate this but I jump in an ice bath,

21:33

which is hard and hurts and is really uncomfortable. I don't

21:35

care who you are. It's fucked. Get

21:38

out of the ice bath and within a minute, the

21:40

psychologist who is in the in the

21:42

moment with me, who's talking about this stuff with me, hands

21:45

me a cookie. Now, I'm a person

21:47

who works in television at a certain

21:49

level, the level of television I work

21:51

at. I am asked, would you

21:53

like some snacks in your dressing room? And I say,

21:55

yes, please, can I please have these particular chocolate gluten

21:58

free ones? course.

22:00

So I'm quite familiar with these biscuits and

22:03

he hands me one of these biscuits. I

22:06

was so high eating

22:08

this biscuit I could have sworn it was

22:11

lice with Xanax and

22:14

it was unbelievable that that feeling

22:17

was completely produced by compounds

22:20

which are inside my own body already. Maybe

22:22

a bit of chocolate as well but

22:25

inside my own body already and

22:28

it is way healthier.

22:31

You don't need to text anybody or call anybody

22:33

to get that feeling. It's not illegal. It's

22:36

low cost or zero cost and

22:40

it doesn't cause lifelong psychological

22:42

damage that I still have to

22:44

see a psychiatrist for and be

22:46

on meds because of the things

22:49

that I put in my body and how it fucked

22:51

up my brain for life. It's

22:53

amazing. Amazing. The

22:56

11th thing is

22:58

simply thinking things through. Alright

23:01

so if you've ever jumped

23:03

in a rental car that's a UK

23:05

or EU spec or American right and

23:07

you see that the indicator is on the other

23:10

side to the windshield wiper right. You

23:12

know it's there. Great there it is.

23:14

There's the indicator. It's over there. You go

23:16

to turn the corner and the wiper goes

23:18

on. It's this automatic response

23:20

even though the evidence is there. It's

23:24

an automatic thing. So similarly

23:26

every night again it still happens. My

23:30

brain will just go before beer would be great

23:32

right now. Like buddy hey hey hey hey. It's

23:34

been a long time. We don't do that anymore.

23:37

I'm not that kind of man anymore. I'm

23:39

a different person and thinking

23:43

through what happens is really important.

23:45

Like yes okay let's say for

23:47

example let's say someone says you

23:49

want to be here and I say yes what happens. Is

23:51

it today? Is it tonight? What happens tonight? How

23:54

does the night end out? At what point in

23:56

the evening am I looking to do tequila shots?

23:58

When do I come home? What's it like

24:00

in the morning when I'm hungover and I'm trying to clean

24:03

vomit off my living room rug? You

24:05

know, it won't be like I said earlier.

24:07

It's not tomorrow. It might be tomorrow And

24:09

it's not next week but before Christmas everything

24:12

that I've built will fall to pieces. There's

24:14

no question So

24:16

no, thank you. I won't have a beer and

24:18

just thinking stuff through but it's not just that it's other

24:21

things as well but it's important to

24:23

kind of think a couple steps ahead and knowing yourself and

24:26

Just walking yourself through it and

24:28

going yep. Yeah, no, thanks. I'm

24:30

right Number

24:33

12, there's something I've done a whole podcast

24:35

about that's watching out for the fuck it's because

24:37

the fuck it can really get you It's

24:42

I'm not gonna finish the ice cream even though I've

24:45

eaten two scoops There's two more scoops

24:47

in there. I shouldn't save them for tomorrow night.

24:49

Okay, I need it Oh

24:54

Then fuck it becomes ah

24:56

That football game I should I they look

24:58

really good that guys come back off the bench. I'd

25:00

love to put a bet on Open

25:02

up the betting account By

25:06

the thing even though we can't afford it Watching

25:08

out for the fuck it is Really

25:11

powerful because the fuck that things that'll undo

25:13

you they come and get you when you're

25:15

tired when you're hungry when you're lonely When

25:18

you're angry when you're bored That's

25:21

when the fuck it's gonna really come for you and mess up your

25:23

life number 13 is Three

25:27

real simple words just progress not

25:29

perfection. No one's getting it right in Anything.

25:32

All right. Hang on. We're getting a visitor. I'm

25:35

glad you're here. Actually. I need you for this fit Can

25:40

you come in I'm finishing off the podcast can you

25:42

come help me with it? It's

25:44

just the last little bit All

25:47

right, come sit on my lap Oh

25:54

So wolf is here now in case you're not watching

25:56

it Has

26:00

someone like it? There he is. I'm

26:02

talking about progress,

26:04

not perfection. And that progress,

26:07

not perfection is just understanding that you don't get

26:09

things right straight away. And

26:11

as long as you're doing it just a little bit better

26:13

than yesterday, see what I did there, that's

26:16

perfect. It doesn't even have to be a lot. It could

26:18

be a micrometer further along,

26:21

but it's a little bit of a

26:23

lesson. Whatever improvement is all you're looking for. You're

26:25

not looking to be perfect. No one gets it

26:27

right. No one gets it perfect. With

26:29

parenting, with your work, with

26:31

riding bicycles. Hello, you're

26:33

here too. I'm talking about the 14

26:36

things I'm filming. That's

26:38

all right. I'm talking about the 14 things on

26:42

my 14th birthday. Here

26:44

you are. It's my

26:46

14th birthday. Thank you. Thank

26:50

you, mate. I'm talking about the 14 things that

26:52

have helped me get to 14 years. And

26:56

number 14, Wolfie, is

26:58

mum who just walked in and

27:00

Georgia and you. Because

27:04

number 14 is remembering

27:06

my family who

27:09

I adore so much and changed

27:12

my life and Audrey and Georgia.

27:15

Before I met you, Wolfie, when I met Audrey, when

27:18

I met mum and Georgia,

27:20

that changed everything. I just wanted

27:22

to be. And also

27:24

we have special,

27:27

special secret I can

27:29

only do on Mondays.

27:33

Oh really? I

27:35

do believe Wolfie just did a hook. He

27:38

just teased to a new episode. You

27:41

are my boy. And

27:44

that's it. That's the 14 things. Thanks for listening.

27:47

Thanks for being a part of it. About tonight, can

27:49

I say something? Sure, go for it. What do you

27:51

want to say? So

27:53

if dad does something and I do

27:56

it too, well, my

27:58

dad needs to do something. I need

28:02

to do something too. So

28:04

with his birthday only

28:06

when he goes up to Melbourne

28:08

for his birthday we'll invite

28:11

all of the Melbourne people. Can you sing

28:13

happy birthday to Dad? Happy

28:16

birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

28:18

Are you singing it to me? Okay

28:20

go. Happy birthday to you. Happy

28:22

birthday to you. Happy birthday to you

28:24

Dad. Happy birthday to

28:26

you. Happy birthday to

28:28

you. Happy birthday to you. Happy

28:31

birthday to you. Thank

28:35

you. Alright bath time.

28:37

Bye Dad. Bye. Bye. Come

28:40

on Mr. Thanks for visiting. Oh well that

28:42

was nice that they showed up at the end there. Doing

28:45

it for myself is one thing but doing it so

28:47

I could actually be around these incredible people and stay

28:52

connected as I can like it's not perfect.

28:54

Good God. It's

28:56

not perfect at all. But

29:00

it's the greatest thing ever. Like if

29:03

you are a drinker. All

29:05

right. And it's not serving you. Just

29:11

know that a life bigger and

29:13

more peaceful and more resilient and

29:15

more magnificent than you can

29:18

possibly imagine is there. It's there for

29:20

you if you're willing to do what

29:22

it takes. It's not all

29:24

you know strawberries dipped in chocolate

29:26

and cold pressed juices on a hammock.

29:30

There's ups and there's downs but that's what life

29:32

is. And

29:35

that's okay. And

29:37

if you want it just find a person who's got

29:39

what you want. I was told

29:42

to just look for somebody who's got the thing that you want

29:44

and ask him how they do it. So I went and found

29:47

a bloke who'd been divorced and now we

29:49

have a family of two kids at a house

29:51

and a career. I said hey man how do you do

29:53

that. Can you help me do that. And

29:57

he said yeah all right. And I just

29:59

did what he told me. me to do and

30:02

it took enormous load off because and

30:04

I love him for it David

30:07

I love him so much because he

30:09

took the weight of those decisions for

30:11

the first couple bits and it really

30:13

helped and yeah

30:16

14 fucking

30:21

hell it

30:25

was amazing

30:28

they dropped it at the end there it was really cool thank

30:30

you to everybody that helped me make this

30:33

show today it's quite the time thank you

30:35

to Andy Ma on audio post Mikey

30:37

on video post toe-hider who made some brilliant

30:39

new music our you Beno our producer at

30:42

large Ella filling in for Abby on that

30:44

leave and Ben and Monica who are keeping

30:46

the lights on at AG TV come see

30:48

us in Melbourne as Wolfie said we're

30:51

inviting everyone in Melbourne I think he means the show

30:54

on the 29th of March which is my birthday come

30:57

see us be great to have you there I'm tickets for

30:59

the show at the comedy festival and the show notes and

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31:06

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31:13

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31:15

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31:18

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31:21

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31:23

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31:25

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31:28

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31:30

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