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supplies last. Hi,

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I'm Hannah Brown, and welcome to Better Tomorrow.

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My absolute favorite thing to do is have a

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heart-to-heart talk with my new friends and my best

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friends, where we sit

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down and talk about all the things like relationships

1:14

and love, faith and self-care. And,

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of course, the little things as well, like the struggle

1:18

to figure out what to eat tonight. All in all,

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I really want to ask, how am I better today

1:23

than yesterday and bring artists,

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entrepreneurs, and friends along on the journey?

1:27

So join me on the journey, will

1:29

you? Hello, everyone.

1:31

How are we doing today?

1:39

I hope it's a great day. If not,

1:41

it's okay. Thanks for coming back

1:43

to listen to another episode of Better

1:45

Tomorrow. You

1:48

know, I woke up this morning, really,

1:52

to be honest, like being

1:54

like, ugh, I

1:57

don't know. I want to wake up and be

1:59

happy. You know and just be like I

2:02

want to feel like Snow White when she wakes

2:04

up and like there's birds singing around her but

2:07

that is just not me and I

2:10

was a little upset about that, but I

2:12

was proud of myself because I Was

2:19

still like oh my gosh, I hate being up

2:21

right now I don't like

2:23

this but I still went into another room Like

2:27

our kind of where I'll have

2:29

my podcast when I do them virtually

2:31

in that room There's like a couch

2:34

and I sat down in there because like Adam was

2:36

already Doing this thing and I think

2:38

when I go into the main living areas I

2:40

can get really distracted and decide not to do

2:42

any self-work and I'll just stay in a shitty

2:44

mood all day so I went into

2:46

this other other room and I

2:51

Started to journal about

2:55

Exactly how I felt which was all

2:57

kind of pretty pessimistic and shitty, but

2:59

that's okay. I did that and I

3:03

Was like Lord help me so

3:07

I read a little bit

3:09

of a devotion and The

3:12

devotion was kind of about When

3:16

you're in seasons of Like

3:22

angst or feeling like you have like a

3:24

lot of problems like to try to read

3:26

like Read

3:30

what's the word I'm trying to say

3:34

Reposition that's not the right word,

3:36

but we're just gonna go with reposition Reposition

3:38

the way that we're thinking about

3:40

the troubles into like oh, this

3:42

is something that is teaching me

3:45

teaching me something And

3:47

think of it almost as a blessing You

3:51

know, that's all great and all but

3:53

man Sometimes

3:55

that's just hard to do but I was really

3:57

trying to do it today. So I did I

3:59

did I wrote down all the

4:01

crappy things and then I

4:05

really did feel like, okay, this is how I

4:07

feel. I'm going to feel

4:09

this, but how do I want to

4:11

feel? And I wrote, I wanted to feel uplifted,

4:16

inspired, and

4:18

grateful. So then

4:21

I went back to the

4:23

Bible and started reading and

4:26

it really did help. Just

4:29

get some words in that were

4:32

not what was in

4:34

my own brain that just

4:37

gave me a little bit of life back. Okay. So

4:40

that's how I started off my day. And

4:42

then from that, I

4:44

was like, okay, what

4:47

are more action steps I can do to

4:50

build on to this? So

4:55

I've had an excuse not to do the

4:57

cold plunge since it's got colder because our,

4:59

what is it called?

5:02

Like the machine broke basically. I mean the

5:04

chiller, the chiller wasn't working, so I just

5:07

haven't had to do it. The

5:10

chiller works again, unfortunately.

5:15

And I've been trying to do

5:18

it. Sometimes I still hate it, but normally

5:21

it's because Adam is

5:24

doing it and then I

5:26

feel bad and so I do it because he's

5:29

not making me, but I feel like I should. But

5:31

I did it all on my own, even though I was really

5:35

pushing it close for time for going to the gym. But

5:38

I'm like, this is me taking action steps to

5:40

feel better because I always feel better afterwards. And

5:42

even when I got to the cold plunge, I

5:45

literally had my bathing suit was taking off my

5:47

robe, about to jump in. It's literally only three

5:49

minutes. And I went and put

5:52

the robe back on and started walking back out

5:54

of the garage and be like, nah, this ain't

5:56

it today. And then I was like,

5:58

Hannah, stop being a little bitch and go. go

6:01

get in the cold plans. You already had the swimsuit

6:03

on. You're already out here. Yes,

6:05

I did it. I got in. I don't

6:07

put my fingers in right now and I

6:10

don't put my toes in so I just

6:12

like do this thing where my

6:15

hands are just out of the water and

6:17

I just like lift my feet up. So I'm kind of

6:19

getting a workout at the same time whatever but I've

6:22

done that and I was

6:24

proud of myself. It was great. I drank

6:27

I drank my AG1 took

6:29

all my supplements. I'm like crusting today.

6:31

Went and worked

6:34

out and my toes I still don't

6:36

understand this why my toes and fingers were

6:38

so numb I could barely do my workout

6:40

because I didn't even put them in the

6:43

water. So annoying. Like

6:45

literally couldn't do lunches because I'm like my toes

6:47

feel like they're about to crunch and fall

6:50

off. Got better. Whatever

6:52

but I did all the things. Okay so

6:54

I'm still

6:57

trying to reprogram my

6:59

brain that it's a

7:01

great day but you know

7:03

we're here. I couldn't even be bothered to

7:05

get ready for this today because

7:08

that didn't

7:10

bring me any joy. So

7:12

we just put a baseball

7:15

what are these called? Trucker hats on. I like a

7:17

trucker hat better than a baseball hat. I don't know

7:19

they're just cool or

7:21

nice or they don't squeeze your head and you

7:23

don't have that of hat hair. My parents were

7:25

in town this weekend and I love my parents

7:28

so much. We had the best time. My

7:30

dad was celebrating my dad's birthday but it's

7:34

a lot when they come especially when they

7:36

bring two big golden retrievers that shed pounds

7:38

of hair every day. I mean that's why

7:40

we have a hypoallergenic dog. You don't have

7:43

to deal with all that. That was a

7:45

lot but it was fun. So I bring

7:47

my dad's birthday went to Kane Prime. That's

7:49

a great steakhouse here in Nashville. If

7:51

you are ever in town want a

7:53

good steakhouse we had a really great

7:56

meal and then we went to see

7:58

Old Dominion. My dad a mom big

8:00

country music fans and he just loved it

8:03

especially because we had like VIP treatment he

8:05

just he loves that that

8:07

type of energy around him he

8:09

really leans into it he he

8:13

would love to be doted

8:17

on all the time so he just it was just

8:19

a really fun time and it was so fun to

8:21

see him so excited to be there and be with

8:24

with me and

8:27

it was overall really

8:30

fun until when

8:32

your parents are at home with you you know they're always asking

8:34

like how to turn the TV on how do you make the

8:36

coffee how do you do this my mom's trying to actually help

8:38

but I'm trying to run out the door because I still had

8:40

other commitments that I had to do while they were there and

8:43

you know just what am

8:45

I doing I'm trying to blame them

8:49

for me being late this weekend actually

8:52

I'm just always late to everything let's

8:54

get on to the actual conversation that

8:57

we're gonna have today I

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interviewed Davis Burleson

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and if for you

9:05

for y'all that don't know who Davis is it's

9:07

because you're not you're not in

9:09

Gen Z you're you're like me

9:11

and kind of a little lame and so it's okay

9:14

it's okay because I interviewed Davis and I realized

9:21

just how lame I was but he's

9:23

so easy to talk to and

9:26

really just I guess I don't

9:30

know he made me feel like it was

9:32

okay and he at least amused

9:34

me and tried to help me out a

9:37

little bit but Davis is a host

9:39

of the serious XM TIP-TOC radio

9:41

show and has landed some

9:43

of like these really top-notch

9:45

hosting roles for the Grammys,

9:48

ANA's, Oscars all the things

9:50

but he all got his

9:52

start on his wildly

9:54

successful tik-tok show What's Poppin' with

9:56

Davis if you have not

10:00

watched his interviews. He's like, we

10:02

talked about this in the conversation, but

10:04

he just goes up to strangers and

10:07

asks them these like, just off the

10:09

wall questions. And he always just gets

10:11

these really great little interviews with these

10:14

strangers in Washington Park. But that's

10:16

really how he blew up and became like a

10:18

leading voice for Gen Z.

10:20

And he's just the sweetest best guy.

10:23

And it was a really fun conversation.

10:25

So I think you guys will love

10:27

it. It'll help us all out to

10:29

be more with the times. So

10:32

just like listen to what Davis has to

10:34

say and try to start using those words.

10:37

That's what I'm trying to do. So, slal. Davis,

10:41

it's so nice to have you. I

10:43

am such a fan of you and

10:45

I can't wait for people who are

10:47

listening to Better Tomorrow. Hi guys, to

10:50

learn more about you as well.

10:52

Okay, so you're from Texas originally.

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What was that like for you? Growing up in

10:57

Texas, when people asked me what that's like, because

10:59

people are always like, ooh, like that must have

11:02

sucked. Honestly, I lived

11:05

in like a big bubble and that's kind

11:07

of all I knew. And growing up, I

11:09

actually really loved it. And I knew

11:11

that one day I wouldn't live there for

11:14

forever. But my childhood and my

11:16

middle school and high school years were, I think

11:18

back and I think

11:20

of happy time. Okay, good. Although

11:24

like also in high school, though, when I

11:26

started to realize more about

11:28

my sexuality and who I am and who

11:30

I want to be, those were some difficult

11:32

years for sure, like trying to figure out

11:34

who Davis is.

11:37

But also, I think I just had this mindset

11:39

of like, I know this isn't gonna last for

11:41

forever, I'm getting out of here. So I'm just

11:43

gonna like, live my life in the

11:45

closet, whatever. And then once I leave high school,

11:47

I'll come out, I'll move to New York, I'll

11:49

move to LA and do my own thing. So

11:51

I was very like content with the fact that

11:54

I'm going to get out of here and this

11:56

is not going to last for forever. So

11:58

you didn't come out? until

12:01

like after high school? I came out the

12:03

day that school got canceled because of COVID.

12:06

I was a senior in high school. They announced

12:08

in like April 14th or something, 2020, they

12:11

were like, you're not going in for senior

12:13

year. School is done forever. Like you're

12:15

never gonna go back to high school. And

12:18

that day I came out. I was like, bye,

12:20

I never had to see any of you again.

12:22

Why did you wait? I

12:24

waited because I think I was just, if

12:28

I were to have come out in high school, everyone

12:31

always knew that I was gay because I never hid

12:33

who I was. And so I was

12:35

always flamboyant. Like I did the announcements every morning.

12:37

I was like kind of, it's just

12:39

a very flamboyant person. And I knew that about myself.

12:42

I knew that people knew, but I

12:44

didn't want to be like tokened as like

12:46

the gay boy in my school because I

12:48

would have been the only gay person, the

12:50

only out person because this is. You're definitely

12:52

weren't the only gay person. Oh honey. Honey,

12:55

I already know that. I

12:58

definitely was not. Yeah, because I had a, you

13:00

know, we had experiences. But yeah, so I didn't

13:02

want to be like tokened as that. And so

13:04

I just wanted to wait, but also I was

13:06

just really scared. And I felt like the fact

13:08

that I didn't have to go back to school anymore. I

13:10

was just like, okay, this is the time. Yeah, that

13:12

makes me so sad to hear that, like that

13:15

you were scared because I feel

13:17

like we have progressed so

13:20

much, but then there's still that fear

13:22

of like what people are going to

13:24

think and people not being accepted. It's

13:26

really sad to hear from me.

13:28

It makes my heart hurt. But what about your family?

13:30

Did you feel, were you scared to tell your family

13:32

that they would accept you? I

13:34

always knew, like I said before with my friends and

13:37

everyone, everyone kind of just knew. I could just get

13:39

the energy that people knew because no one would ask.

13:41

They wouldn't ask. No one would touch

13:43

on like, oh, do you have a girlfriend? Like whatever,

13:45

just like dating and all that kind of stuff with

13:47

off limits in terms of like conversations with me. So

13:50

that was, and so when I was telling my

13:52

family, I knew that they would be supportive. I

13:54

knew that they would understand. Of course there was

13:57

like, you know, long talks and like some

13:59

people were showing. And I was like, oh, wow, okay,

14:01

I didn't surprise you, but everyone has been so

14:03

supportive, so nice. I could not have asked. I'm

14:05

very lucky. I'm very much in a minority in

14:08

that situation. So I'm very blessed that my family

14:10

has been so supportive. Yeah,

14:12

it was great. What

14:14

did it feel like? Like, did you feel

14:16

a weight lifted off of you just being

14:18

able to like say it out loud? Or

14:20

like you said, you kind of knew everybody

14:23

probably thought

14:26

maybe you were gay. And so it was just like, okay,

14:28

I just need to like say it

14:30

so that now everybody can talk about it. So

14:33

how did that actually like feel inside?

14:35

In the moment when I first initially like

14:37

said it, and I was telling everyone in

14:39

that whole week of like the announcement, I

14:41

guess, I hated the attention. And

14:43

everyone's like, oh my God, you must feel

14:45

amazing. I'm like, really? I actually don't. Like,

14:48

I just feel like everyone's looking at me.

14:50

Everyone's like, I'm like the talk of the

14:52

town because I literally cannot think of anyone

14:54

else that has like openly come out in

14:57

our like area, right? Like I

14:59

don't think, I really, I can't think of anybody. So I was

15:01

like one of the first few, so it was very like shocking

15:03

to a lot of people because

15:05

we're from like a little small area in Houston.

15:08

Yeah, well, I'm from Houston, but like a small

15:10

area in Houston, that's very much like a bubble.

15:13

I don't even know where I was going. Okay, yeah, so then I

15:16

was like feeling very like overwhelmed. I

15:19

didn't love the attention on me, but

15:21

like as time progressed, I mean, it

15:23

has been the biggest weight lifted off

15:25

my shoulders. I have come fully into

15:28

myself and like I don't feel

15:30

like I'm hiding anything. And it's

15:32

very interesting. I've noticed so much how like

15:34

my interests have like shifted

15:37

in a way because whenever I was in the

15:40

closet, I would like close the door in my

15:42

bedroom and like listen to Ariana Grande, like privately.

15:44

And no one else could know that I listened

15:46

to Ariana Grande. I would like hide that because

15:49

I didn't want anyone to know. Mother. Oh, there

15:51

you go. She's mother. There you go. Oh, exactly.

15:54

Or like hide, like I would like secretly watch like

15:56

RuPaul's Drag Race or whatever. But now I'm just like

15:58

so good. And so now I'm. kind of like

16:00

because I am openly gay and proud

16:03

I can like watch that in public.

16:06

I don't care and like Ariana Grande

16:08

is like streaming you know I'll play on the

16:10

speakers through the rooftops. Yes. You know so it's

16:12

different. Did you feel like you had like

16:14

a happy childhood now

16:17

that you're fully feel like you can

16:19

be yourself? Do you look back and

16:21

you're like oh this is

16:23

how like happy and joy actually feels like

16:26

does that make sense? Because it's like you

16:28

weren't able to be fully yourself. Still doesn't

16:30

mean like you still I

16:34

hope experience joy but have you

16:36

seen a difference since

16:38

coming out? I've definitely seen a difference

16:40

but I like I said before

16:42

like I very much had a like I very much

16:45

and very fond of my childhood and I had a

16:47

like a great childhood and also what I really think

16:51

is different from my situation is I never really

16:53

tried to not be gay. I just never

16:56

talked about it. So I was always like

16:58

I would always dance and perform for my

17:00

parents but like I like which is never

17:02

a topic. Like sexuality part of it was

17:04

like oh no he's just like a very

17:07

flamboyant person. So I find this so

17:11

interesting because I had I mean I went

17:13

to acting class like three times

17:16

but my

17:18

coach had a son who like

17:22

they never talked about sexuality but he was

17:24

just so himself and he wanted the pink

17:26

shoes and he liked to dance and he

17:28

did that and it like you

17:30

said you were like always like that from a young

17:33

age like that can't be that's just who you are

17:35

and I think some people who are

17:38

still like and I don't

17:40

know they just don't quite understand and haven't just

17:42

like expanded their mind and don't

17:44

understand like not everybody feels the same way

17:46

and that we're all different and unique. I

17:50

think need to hear that

17:52

that like you have always you've

17:54

always been this way and now you get

17:56

to like live and

17:58

be free and open. And so I

18:02

think it's really cool that you've been able to

18:04

have that experience. It makes me certain that some

18:06

people still have not yet got to

18:09

experience that, or didn't really feel

18:11

in their life from their family

18:13

that they could snap

18:15

into their actual passion. Right. I,

18:18

this is Dr. TikTok, and

18:20

I thought this was so funny that

18:22

you did this old TikTok about your

18:24

senior superlatives and how you got most

18:27

likely to be an influencer should have

18:29

a reality TV show most fashionable. And

18:31

like, you're kind of

18:33

just like living and thriving and like doing

18:35

all those things in some way, they

18:38

were right. How funny is that? It's not

18:40

wild. Yeah. I got four senior superlatives,

18:43

which is not

18:45

wild and they have all kind of come

18:47

true. I mean, it was like, it's manifesting

18:49

at its finest, but yeah, I got most

18:52

likely to be a reality TV star. I'm

18:54

not on reality TV, but like, you know, similar

18:56

path. Yes. It's

18:59

media. I do media. And then I

19:01

got most likely to be an influencer. Here we

19:03

are. And then most fashionable. I

19:05

love fashion. Play. Thank you. And

19:09

then I got biggest Starbucks addict. Is that

19:11

true? So true. And I was

19:13

the kid still like there's

19:16

a plethora of different coffee shops

19:18

and you're still, and people always say

19:20

that like, why, like, why don't you go anywhere else,

19:22

especially because I live in New York. People are like,

19:24

why don't you go to anywhere else? And I do

19:26

go, of course. I go to other coffee shops, but

19:28

I don't even go to Starbucks for the coffee. I

19:31

go for that feeling. What's the feeling at Starbucks? It's

19:33

just like, you know, I go in there and it

19:35

just reminds me of like all these moments of my

19:37

life because I've been going there since I was a

19:39

little kid. Like I just like, and I had a

19:41

drive-through that was right next to me growing up. And

19:43

when I first got my license, I would go there

19:45

every single day. And then they ended up giving me

19:47

free Starbucks every time I would go because I was,

19:49

I went that frequently. Do you still get free

19:52

Starbucks? We should be working on that. I

19:54

came back after when I came back to Texas after being

19:56

in New York for a long time, I came back and

19:58

like, we missed you. No free

20:00

starps though. What? I know. I wish.

20:02

I wish. I

20:08

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20:10

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20:12

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20:15

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20:19

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23:36

when I was in high school, I always knew

23:38

I wanted to either go to, in high school

23:40

I was like I'm going to LA. That

23:43

is my destiny. That is what I'm doing.

23:45

So I toured like all the colleges here

23:47

in LA like USC, UCLA, LMU and I

23:50

was like dead set on it. And

23:52

then my junior year of high school, one of

23:54

my friends was doing a summer camp at Parsons

23:56

in New York and she was

23:59

like come with. Soap on you gets like college

24:01

credit and I'm like, okay, like I do not want

24:03

to go to like I don't want to live in

24:05

New York But I'll go for two weeks to do

24:07

summer school there or whatever. And so I went I

24:09

fell in love I was like, I'm going to Parsons.

24:11

I'm not going to LA anymore. And so I what

24:13

when you over From LA

24:16

because I mean I lived here. I love

24:18

LA I

24:20

just wanted to be closer to home and Nashville

24:22

is awesome But I was always that

24:24

I was like LA never could see me with self

24:26

living in New York But I never lived

24:29

there. So like what what was it like? I

24:31

think it's just that like fast-paced energy

24:34

It just is so everybody's on my everyone's

24:36

on coffee. Oh my god you like you're

24:38

crazy if you don't drink coffee and you

24:40

have to like to keep up to you

24:42

have to also like be just the Energy

24:44

itself is just like a you know It

24:47

will keep you Caffeinated in general like because

24:49

there's so much going on you have to like you have

24:51

to be aware of everything so I think that one me

24:53

over and also just everyone is so unique and Independent

24:56

and I've always been incredibly independent And

24:59

I think I really loved that about New

25:01

York is it's kind of like in a

25:03

sad but beautiful way It's very much every

25:06

man for themselves And I kind of

25:08

always been that way like I've always like tried to like

25:10

live my life for me and like been you know I've

25:13

had some things where I've had to be independent for

25:15

myself And so I think the fact that

25:17

like New York I saw that by everybody and I was like this

25:19

is where I need to be When he moved

25:21

to New York is that when you were a door

25:24

dash driver had that already started because I'm I Talked

25:27

about how I kind of want to just do door dash

25:29

for fun Because I think it would

25:31

be fun, but you tell me you've had the experience. I

25:34

miss being a door dash driver so much It

25:37

was so fun. It was real

25:39

life Pokemon go like it was

25:41

so much fun I did this

25:43

during kovat so like right as

25:45

well that cancel for kovat This

25:47

was March, and I wasn't moving

25:49

to New York until August so and I didn't have

25:51

school high school was canceled I had nothing to do

25:53

and not you ever think oh, I'm not gonna be

25:55

able to move to New York in August That was

25:57

scary. Yeah, we were like we have we had no

25:59

idea it was happening. So I downloaded

26:02

TikTok and started making videos and I

26:04

was a DoorDash driver. That all happened

26:06

at the same time. All at the same time. Yeah. So

26:09

tell me like what was a

26:11

day in the life of Davis

26:13

during COVID being having

26:16

two jobs DoorDash and then like making

26:19

this I mean huge TikTok

26:21

following or you started off with

26:23

your own before obviously yes. What's popping

26:25

which will get to you. So yeah

26:28

I always say that I am so grateful for

26:30

that time that I got because I know COVID

26:32

was such a horrible time for

26:34

everyone but it was

26:37

really the catapult to my career because I had

26:39

nothing to do like I said I was it

26:41

was the perfect time that it was like just

26:43

meant to be so everyone was like TikTok at

26:45

the time was really booming everyone was become overnight

26:47

sensations and I was like I really want to

26:49

do this because I had always wanted to be

26:52

a YouTuber like that was my dream okay if TikTok

26:54

is a new thing let's do it. So I

26:56

would like wake up every morning and I would

26:59

write out my agenda I would I was posting

27:01

five videos a day you like searching like what

27:03

the trend is okay we're gonna have to do

27:05

these what times like you knew all that everything

27:07

I would invest it and my friend Ali who's

27:09

right over there she was my sidekick for every

27:11

single day we would like see each other because

27:14

we're neighbors like she was like you got to

27:16

make sure you like post today like she was

27:18

really on me I was like doing it every

27:20

single day I started in March and then I

27:22

think I got 10k in August like right when

27:24

I moved to New York like I was and

27:26

it was just very much like I was

27:29

just trying trying everything did you

27:31

ever think like okay I

27:34

cannot do this like this is just

27:36

exhausting because I feel like making

27:38

TikTok it's exhausting sometimes but

27:40

I feel like I had a little bit more freedom

27:43

when I first started and then I stopped I like

27:46

was on and then I just stopped doing it now

27:48

I'm like trying to get back into it but it

27:51

then you start getting people watching it and they're like

27:53

oh okay now I have to like really take this

27:55

seriously but at first it was just fun for me

27:57

but it seems like you you had a plan from

27:59

the beginning. I did have a plan from the beginning.

28:01

Yeah. Yeah, it was never really fun in game.

28:03

I know I was like no I want to

28:05

make this a career. I don't know. I was

28:08

just like I just saw something as I really

28:10

enjoy making videos I've always like been like an

28:12

on-internet person Okay, so I was like this is

28:14

just what I want to do and I remember

28:16

my first viral video ever I

28:18

didn't have any followers, but my video went viral

28:20

Okay, and I like went and I showed my

28:22

dad and dad I went viral I have a

28:24

hundred thousand views and he goes oh

28:26

my god. That's awesome. When do you start making money?

28:30

That's the first thing he said to me and I was

28:32

like, uh, I don't think you can start making money

28:34

So you have like 10,000 followers, but that'll never happen

28:36

I'm I remember that quote so well and I knew

28:38

in my head that it was gonna happen But I

28:40

was like being like insecure like I'm that's never gonna

28:42

happen to me And then it obviously felt

28:44

like a little different because you didn't know anybody

28:46

that was like you But did you just feel

28:48

like special like you you were

28:50

destined for something? Different

28:52

than whatever everybody else was doing around to

28:55

you I knew that I wanted to be

28:57

on camera and like perform and like entertain

28:59

I've always like I've always like loved to

29:01

make people laugh That is like what

29:04

I've done since I was very little and so

29:06

I always knew that that and some capacity like that

29:08

was something that I was going to do and one

29:11

of the ways that I Was kind

29:14

of covering up because I was obviously whenever

29:16

you it's kind of embarrassing to be like, oh,

29:18

yeah I want to be famous or I want to do an actor.

29:20

I want to do this So my people

29:22

don't make it and you don't want to fail

29:24

and if you say that people are like, yeah,

29:26

right Like like that's ever gonna happen. So

29:28

my way of like Watch

29:31

me under my breath. So my way

29:33

of like getting into all of this

29:35

was by doing photography. I was a

29:37

photographer I was

29:40

like that photography editor of my yearbook

29:42

and I went to school at Parsons

29:44

for photography But deep and I

29:46

was like I want to be a photographer but deep

29:48

down I wanted to be the one having photos taken

29:50

of me. No, I'm just learning my angles

29:52

in my lighting right now about

29:55

lighting You're like,

29:57

no, I'm just making sure I can have

30:00

like the best video quality for

30:02

me to do my thing. That's

30:04

smart. Yeah I always kind of knew

30:06

I was like I'm gonna do photography but that's not gonna

30:08

be my end goal. Like I want to do something more

30:10

like entertainment but like this is my stepping stone. Do

30:12

you still like like to take photos of

30:14

I mean of yourself? Duh! But like of...

30:17

I really enjoy taking photos and it's like uh

30:20

like my Instagram stories like this the photos

30:22

are great you know because I know my

30:25

angles. You know I went

30:27

to college for this stuff you know. I think that

30:29

really helps and do you feel like that helps?

30:31

Do you edit all your videos? Yes.

30:33

Yes because for me it takes me like

30:36

eight hours to freaking

30:38

edit anything but when you

30:40

like went to school for that that you

30:43

you had it all mapped

30:45

out. You're a mastermind. Let's

30:47

talk about Taylor Swiftly. You

30:49

seem very natural

30:51

in front of the camera. Have you always been that

30:53

way? No. No. I don't

30:56

believe you. I mean I've obviously

30:58

I've been been on camera now for which 2023 so

31:00

three years. I'm like if

31:03

I look back at the videos of myself it's

31:05

like honestly the cringiest I mean everyone would say

31:07

that cringiest thing ever. 2020

31:09

videos on TikTok I

31:11

want I mean that's how we

31:14

got here. I mean for me I was just like something

31:16

I did for fun. I need those

31:18

to burn. It's like when humans got phones for the first

31:20

time. It's like I don't even know what to do. Like

31:22

when video was created like we were like just we were

31:24

like animals. Not okay

31:26

but now I not

31:28

only just my on-camera presence and who I

31:31

am on camera but also who I am

31:33

as a person in my real life because

31:35

of because I've been talking on camera so

31:37

much and like seeding my opinions

31:40

and like finding my sense of humor it's helped

31:42

me gain so much confidence in my real life

31:44

too by being on camera because I have learned

31:46

so much about myself what I like what I

31:48

don't like because I have you know like when

31:50

this job you're gonna have to have an opinion

31:52

on everything like give hot takes or whatever and

31:54

like be funny have a sense of humor and

31:56

so I've really learned a lot about myself through

31:58

all of this. because that's what I'm

32:01

most grateful for. I feel like

32:03

even just recently, I am fully

32:05

myself and being authentic and I'm

32:08

really confident, being who

32:10

I am and trusting my gut and stuff.

32:12

What are you? Wow. I

32:15

feel like I'm kind of in that season of life

32:17

now and I'm 28. Opinions

32:21

for me are hard, because I also know Libra,

32:24

I don't know. What

32:26

are you? No wonder I like you. I'm

32:28

an Aries. We are like 98%

32:30

compatibility. My best friend's Aries. That

32:33

makes sense. All my best friends

32:35

are Libra's. We need y'all and

32:37

y'all need us. Yes. You know?

32:40

Because Aries talk about themselves and you guys listen.

32:42

We do and I... That's

32:44

literally what it is. Is that what it is? Yeah,

32:46

that's apparently the funny quote about it. Have

32:49

you always been one of those people

32:51

that felt really comfortable talking with strangers? Yes

32:55

and no. Because also I

32:57

wasn't as confident as I am

33:00

now, so I wouldn't feel comfortable talking to

33:02

a bunch of people. And actually for my

33:04

show, What's Poppin', I interview

33:06

strangers in Washington Square Park and I run around

33:08

and talk to

33:10

whoever is just walking and surprise them

33:12

and say, like, probably talk about fashion,

33:15

relationships, everything. And I

33:17

actually got hired for that show. And

33:20

when I was in the meeting, they were like, are you comfortable

33:22

talking to strangers? And I'm like, oh

33:25

yeah, lying. I just really

33:27

want this job. And then I got

33:29

the job and I was like, first day working, I was like, I was

33:32

so scared to go up to people,

33:35

but it took practice and... Well

33:38

now you do not look scared at

33:40

all. I'm not. No, I'm not gonna

33:42

see anyone ask them something really

33:45

off the wall, but that's what makes it

33:47

fun. So how did you get this

33:50

job? Because I thought maybe you started it

33:52

yourself, but no, this is through some type

33:55

of media production. Through this

33:57

company called Fallen Media. And basically when I moved

33:59

to New York... I moved here in August

34:01

of 2020 for my freshman

34:03

year of college I had just

34:05

started tiktok and I had just went viral on

34:07

my personal tiktok page Davis Burleson because of that

34:09

Follow media reached out. They were like we think

34:12

you're funny We want to have you in for

34:14

a meeting and I had no idea what it

34:16

was and I was like, okay Have you ever

34:18

heard never heard of them? Okay, but um,

34:21

I was like, this is cool. This is shot. This is

34:23

New York This is like I got scouted like this

34:25

is like how it happened So going

34:27

for the meeting I wear these like khaki pants a barber

34:29

jacket on the phone with my dad before he's like calming

34:32

me Down. He's like just be yourself. That's why you're here.

34:34

I'm like, that's good advice Yes, right always gotta take that

34:36

you always got to take it place from your parents But

34:39

um, they we went to the meeting to kind of pitch the

34:41

idea of the show to me They were like we wanted to

34:43

do this kind of like game show thing and this is the

34:45

middle of COVID and so I was we Were all wearing masks.

34:47

They're like we want to do this game show thing. I'm like

34:49

on the streets of New York And

34:51

we want you to host it and I was like, oh

34:53

my gosh, like that sounds fun And

34:56

they were like, are you comfortable talking to strangers?

34:58

No, it's like absolutely and I was so lying

35:00

and then that was that meeting was in November.

35:02

We started in February And

35:04

I really we're starting the show

35:06

from zero followers And I was really doing

35:08

it because I was a broke college student.

35:11

I had no money like nothing And

35:13

so yeah, were you what were you

35:15

doing? Did you have a job at that point? No,

35:17

I'm trying to your freshman I was doing

35:19

like tick tock. Yeah, my plan was like tick

35:22

tock that was a plan So this was like

35:24

my my breaking point but I really didn't see

35:26

it going anywhere this what my what's popping show

35:28

because I Had no idea what to

35:30

expect and I honestly didn't think I had faith in myself

35:32

that I could do it And so

35:34

I started the show I was giving it my all

35:36

giving it my best and then within a month I

35:38

had a hundred thousand followers and then within three months

35:40

I had a million and it surpassed my own personal

35:43

page and I was like wait it within three

35:45

months. You had a million Oh my gosh, was

35:47

there like a certain? Video

35:50

that went viral that like really made it or is

35:52

there like I'm sure there's there's multiple I'm sure

35:54

it was like there was one that got that

35:56

I asked this girl. I couldn't even tell you

35:58

what I asked I was like,

36:00

were you bullied in high school? Or were you

36:02

cool in high school? I asked her and she

36:05

was like, oh, I was so bullied, something, something,

36:07

something. And it was just like a very, the

36:09

video wasn't even that funny. It was just kind

36:11

of like an authentic and true conversation between two

36:13

people. And it got 26 million views. I'll never

36:15

forget that number. Cause I was like, oh my

36:17

God. That is kind of what set,

36:19

it was like the, the tip and

36:22

set it off. And then from there, it

36:24

kind of just continued to grow. And it

36:26

was just a whole surprise and something that

36:28

really changed the trajectory of my whole entire

36:30

life. It changed your life. It is so

36:32

cool to hear how

36:34

like creators like you, like it's

36:37

just, you just persist. And then there's, there's

36:39

going to be something that pops off. If

36:41

you're being your authentic self, have a good

36:43

idea. And do you feel

36:46

like having

36:48

the support of the media, a

36:51

company versus like, do you

36:53

feel like that was really big for

36:55

you or did that almost give you

36:58

more like insecurity down? Cause like,

37:00

oh my gosh, all these people are like counting on me to do this. I

37:02

think, I think because I had all these people

37:04

counting on me that it added some form of

37:06

pressure. Yeah. I had to do well.

37:09

And I had to, I had to show up for work.

37:11

Like I had to do my job. And

37:13

so having that was,

37:15

was, I think, which drove me and

37:17

wanted me to continue like working

37:20

on this craft of like interviewing people, what is the

37:23

proper way? Because if you look back at my initial

37:25

interviews, I have a completely

37:27

different style of the way that I talk

37:29

to people now, because I've learned all

37:32

these skills of like, what is the best

37:34

way to talk to a stranger on the

37:36

street? How do you do that? You know?

37:39

Yeah. So I've learned a lot about that. Because

37:41

I'm sure you got a lot of rejection

37:43

from people not wanting to talk to a stranger.

37:45

It was every single person

37:47

rejected me, every single person. Really? Yeah.

37:50

Like literally it was, I was out there. I wouldn't lie.

37:53

And I started in February. Thank you. No, because I

37:55

actually really like talking to strangers. You're

37:57

hello. Hi. I'm the person

37:59

that. Like, when you're on the

38:01

plane, do you talk to the person beside you? No. I

38:04

do, I'm the, but let me tell

38:06

you, it's so embarrassing, but I have

38:08

made so many connections. You're

38:11

probably flying first class now, are you? Sometimes.

38:13

Sometimes, sometimes. I mean same, sometimes you just gotta

38:15

get like on a flight. Yeah. I'm

38:18

telling you, talk to the

38:20

people beside you. It doesn't have to be, don't

38:22

be the person that's talking to them like after

38:24

takeoff. You're like, I'm talking like while we're still

38:26

taxied, you get to know them, then nobody wants

38:28

to talk to you. I'm asleep, but

38:30

that is where you can meet so

38:33

many cool people and make connections. So

38:36

yeah, I am a person that talks to people on planes, but

38:38

only for a little bit. So I would think you would be.

38:41

I am taking that advice. I

38:43

love that. I mean, I've

38:45

met two people the last two times that like

38:47

are probably gonna be really instrumental in like helping

38:50

me move forward with some of the things

38:52

that I wanna do. That is incredible.

38:54

You gotta do it. Okay, great advice. Yes.

38:57

Okay, so you do get rejected though.

39:00

Not as much now. Now, okay, so

39:03

what have you learned? Like is there like any

39:05

tip you can give somebody when wanting to start

39:07

up a conversation with a stranger?

39:09

Oh, great. If you

39:11

wanna start a conversation with a stranger, I would say, well,

39:13

it's different from my show because I'm always trying to get

39:15

like a hook in the beginning so I'm always asking like

39:18

an out of pocket like question. I

39:21

think there is a way that you're doing it

39:23

though that makes people at least answer. So

39:25

one thing that I do is I

39:27

do like a little, I do this

39:29

like little small run thing and

39:31

that's like my followers always are talking about my

39:34

little like, I don't even know what it's called,

39:36

my little like run. The prance, little prance. I

39:38

run like a little deer. And I do that

39:40

on purpose just to kind of get them prepared

39:42

for me to enter their space because I'm entering

39:44

their personal space and they have no idea who

39:46

I am, what I'm doing. And so I kind

39:48

of do this little slow run up to them.

39:50

That was a question because I'm like, are you

39:53

like making eye contact? I'm coming up to

39:55

you, are you like full on surprising me?

39:57

Every person that I interview is a complete surprise.

40:00

I will not do it if it's fake. The

40:03

only time that it's fake sometimes I do like

40:06

an advertisement sometimes because

40:08

it's very specific and stuff. But everything

40:10

else, like organic content, so 100% real.

40:13

So the prance is like

40:16

the best way to do it. Okay, so I'm gonna

40:18

just start prancing out to people and be like, hey,

40:20

will you hire me? I

40:22

just need to. Prance at terminal A,

40:25

you gotta go to the airport and start prancing to

40:27

everyone, that's the way to do it. But my advice

40:29

for somebody that is just wanting to

40:31

spark up a conversation with anyone, this doesn't

40:33

even do with flirting, if

40:35

you're not on camera, just like in general

40:37

lifestyle stuff, would be to

40:40

compliment first. Always a compliment.

40:44

And then have something prepared

40:46

for yourself. So I always call this

40:48

the bit. Anywhere that I go, any

40:51

event, any time

40:53

I'm getting lunch with a friend, I always have

40:55

something in my mind that I wanna talk about.

40:58

And it's not really something I really prepare, but I kinda just

41:00

know going in. You gotta get a bit going. This is what

41:02

I wanna say, or this is kinda

41:04

be my story to tell. So when you haven't seen a

41:07

friend in a very long time, and they're like, oh my

41:09

God, how are you? Instead of saying,

41:11

you can go three ways of saying, answering

41:14

how are you. You can say, I'm good,

41:16

how are you? So boring, so bland, it's

41:18

not gonna get you any farther

41:21

in a conversation. The second is to give,

41:23

oh yeah, my summer's been good, I was

41:25

traveling here, here, here, I did this, I

41:27

did that, and then the

41:29

third would be to narrow it on one single

41:31

thing that's not even that important, but it's kinda

41:34

funny, and it just sparks of a conversation. Oh,

41:36

I'm good, oh my God, on the way here,

41:38

this guy was next to me on the subway,

41:40

and he was just talking, talking, talking, and then

41:42

he had whatever, blah, blah, blah, and you tell

41:45

his whole story, and that's just how I

41:47

am. That's a good answer to that. Oh, I love

41:49

that. I feel like, for me,

41:51

I think I've used all those responses.

41:54

When I say, I'm good, how are you? That means I

41:56

don't wanna talk to you. Or I don't wanna get into

41:58

it, or you say that to a... friend and then

42:00

if somebody said that's me and I know them I'm

42:02

like okay actually what happened because

42:04

you can hear in the how are you I'm good I

42:07

mean I'm good how are you good but

42:11

the story I think when I'm

42:13

coming in hot to somebody I know or I'm

42:15

coming home like to my boyfriend he's like how'd

42:17

you they I'm like oh let me tell you

42:19

about this story and it does it makes it's

42:22

also I think I might be in dramatic and

42:24

honey I'm the queen of drama like I am the

42:26

most dramatic person you'll ever meet I am I will

42:28

exaggerate my stories and my whole family does that too

42:30

we all are so excited and we love to call

42:32

each other out cuz we'll all be yeah well like

42:34

my brother will be telling a story from like a

42:36

family vacation I'll be like that was a lie and

42:38

he's like for the story makes it

42:40

funny I'm like yeah I would do the same

42:43

who comes up with the questions and or like

42:45

I don't want to get your bits it's a

42:47

bit yeah the bits in my show I

42:49

actually have an amazing a group

42:52

of people that helped me with my questions

42:54

for the show but what's very interesting is

42:56

I obviously

42:58

even very picky with what I asked and like I

43:00

yeah sometimes I up most of the time I'll come

43:03

prepare with my own too this is no shade to

43:06

them and we've had this conversation we always are like

43:08

our meat will have like creative meetings and stuff well we're

43:10

discussed kind of what do that once a month and I'll

43:12

kind of talk to them about what I'm interested in like

43:14

what I want only what I want to be talking about

43:17

on the phone whatever but I've

43:19

learned with like interviewing when I have

43:21

other people write my questions it

43:24

can be difficult because it's

43:28

like here's a really small example but like for my show

43:30

like one of the questions that somebody wrote the other day

43:32

was like what game did you love on the Nintendo switch

43:34

growing up and I like read that

43:36

question almost like I never played that growing up

43:38

so I can't really give anything to this conversation

43:41

when I do ask that so yeah it's like

43:43

there's all this always whenever you're interviewing it's like

43:45

what's your initial question and then what's your follow-up

43:47

like that's always like a very important thing when

43:50

I'm doing my interviews it's like I'm gonna ask

43:52

this but then once they respond once

43:54

they respond what is going to be my follow-up to that

43:56

yeah I'm always prepared on a follow-up every time I ask

43:58

a question I I interviewed

44:01

Kale T. Knight who has been

44:03

on TV for forever and has

44:06

interviewed everyone. I was like,

44:08

what is some advice that you have for me

44:10

doing this podcast? It's like, well, you're doing it,

44:12

but it's very important whenever you ask a question

44:14

to have some type of feedback to

44:16

relate. That is really important when giving an

44:19

interview. Sometimes for me, I'm

44:21

like, oh, but then I'm making it about

44:23

myself. It's like, no, that's showing a conversation.

44:25

It's showing a conversation totally. I've always been

44:27

very scared of like, don't talk about yourself

44:29

too much because you're interviewing somebody

44:31

else. When you do bring up yourself,

44:34

it makes it more of a conversation and it makes

44:37

the other person want to give more

44:39

because you're both being vulnerable. I saw

44:41

you also have done

44:43

these backstage interviews at some of

44:45

the biggest music awards, Grammy

44:47

Awards and the American Music Awards.

44:51

I saw this TikTok where you went as like, I don't

44:53

know how old you were, but you just look like a

44:55

little boy. You went as

44:58

an audience. I

45:01

went to the American Music Awards when I was

45:04

in seventh grade. Were

45:06

you just like a big music fan or pop culture

45:08

fan? I've always been so into

45:10

pop culture. My dad was so... It

45:13

was such a funny story and long story short,

45:15

we were in LA for a different reason. I

45:18

was like, dad, the American Music Awards are tonight. Can

45:21

we go? Can we go? He's

45:23

like, yeah, let's go. Our whole

45:25

family was there and we looked at the tickets and they were so

45:28

expensive. He was like, I'll

45:31

buy a ticket for you if you want to go alone. I was like,

45:33

I'll go. I went to the American

45:35

Music Awards by myself in seventh grade. That's

45:38

why when you're like, I'm not comfortable

45:41

with strangers, most people would not do that.

45:43

You do have this level of,

45:45

I guess, confidence or

45:48

maybe it was just you were always like, I'm going to... You

45:50

were just always yourself. I

45:53

don't think I could have gone by myself. I always

45:55

have a fun time with myself. I

45:58

am my own best friend. Literally, I'm pretty

46:00

great. No, not that way but I just like

46:03

I could have a good time. I can

46:05

have fun anywhere No, I love that So

46:07

the American music Awards was really really great

46:10

time and then when I got invited to go Last

46:13

year, it was just such a full circle moment and

46:15

so so so cool And

46:17

in the Grammys that was awesome.

46:20

I did the backstage like pre-show

46:23

And did like a tour of everything that was so

46:25

sick I Think

46:29

I also like had where I

46:31

was like Just some girl

46:33

from Alabama and then like a year later like

46:36

got to do all these crazy things Do you sometimes

46:38

like is this my real life? Do

46:41

you have those moments of like I cannot believe this

46:43

is happening? but in the back of your mind like

46:45

I was new this is kind of gonna happen, but

46:47

like it's happening and it happened so fast and How

46:51

do you say I grounded with that? That's

46:53

definitely something that I'm how do I stay grounded?

46:55

It's always something that I'm like always trying to

46:57

battle and like trying to work I'm always like

46:59

working on myself and always trying to better myself.

47:01

And so I'm always like I cannot believe that

47:04

I got here This

47:06

is crazy. But also like you said I'm

47:08

like I knew like I wanted to do

47:10

something along These lines that I

47:12

expected to be this journey. Not at all Did I

47:14

expect it to be when I was like 21? No,

47:16

not at all So

47:19

it's been definitely interesting navigating it

47:21

all and I'm like I've been working

47:23

on myself and trying to keep Myself around it.

47:25

So one thing I do is I make sure

47:27

to go home all the time and see my

47:30

family I go home probably once

47:32

every two months and see them. Yeah, so

47:34

that very much grounds me and always

47:37

off my phone Like

47:40

when I'm not working like I'm always just like trying to do

47:42

things that are That are

47:44

good for me and like I'm trying to figure out who

47:47

is Davis on camera who's Davis off camera and

47:49

like how do those two people merge together because

47:51

I'm very much myself on camera and But

47:55

I'm always but I'm more energetic on camera,

47:57

but when I'm not on camera much more

48:00

So it's like I've talked with some therapy.

48:02

I'm like who am I like off and on

48:04

camera because people say I'm the same people Say

48:06

I'm different like what is it and she was

48:08

like saying she's like let's think of it this

48:10

way like when you're not on camera You're Davis

48:12

when you're on camera. You're Davis with an exclamation

48:14

point. Yeah, I'm like that is literally so true

48:16

because I When you're

48:19

on camera, of course, you're going to perform and you

48:21

know You want to hit a one-liner and be kind

48:23

of funny when you're off, you know You're more chill.

48:25

So I'm always like I'm glad that I learned that

48:27

when I did because I've I've I know Like

48:30

how to handle this whole job and

48:32

career. Yeah. No, I think people

48:34

can sniff out authenticity but

48:37

I also understand that struggle of like

48:39

oh sometimes like I don't when

48:43

I'm off camera like I just want to sit in

48:45

my room and like Watch a

48:47

movie and I'm not like watching the movie and

48:49

also like doing the tap dance the whole time

48:51

I mean sometimes it is like hairspray or cats

48:53

or something. Yeah, maybe and if there's a glass

48:55

of wine Yes, but I had

48:57

that struggle too, but I love how your

48:59

therapist says It's like you're totally yourself because

49:02

I can feel that just like being

49:04

here watch That's why that is why you

49:06

have been successful is because of your authenticity

49:09

But it is okay to be able to like

49:13

Be calm and and like go

49:15

it like internally

49:19

Take a deep breath. But you yeah, if

49:21

that's not what people like are interested in

49:23

seeing always but both Are

49:26

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49:28

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52:41

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52:43

so I just want to ask you a few

52:45

questions. Okay, yes, let's do it. You

52:47

already talked about hot take but

52:49

what is your hot take? Oh hot

52:51

take all condiments

52:53

suck. What?

52:56

Yeah. No. You don't like sauce?

52:59

Ketchup, mustard, barbecue sauce,

53:02

relish, mayonnaise. I'm

53:04

freaking out. This goes on and on. I hate it all.

53:07

That's my hot take. What? Oh my gosh. French

53:09

fries taste so much better with just like the potato and

53:12

the salt like I'm telling you. I am

53:15

not okay with that. I totally

53:17

disagree but you live your life.

53:19

Thank you. I'm very happy. Yeah. I'm

53:21

happy with my choices. And also like less

53:24

calories and you can like eat way more potatoes.

53:26

There we go. Good for you. I'm

53:28

such a sauce girl. Like I the

53:30

other day we made these like taco hamburger

53:32

things and I got to like create the

53:35

sauce as like a big max. And you're

53:37

like mixing the sauce. All the things. So like it would have

53:39

been your worst nightmare. I have I have actually it's a kind

53:41

of little bit of a phobia thing. I don't even know what

53:43

it is. Like my friends will be eating ketchup next to me.

53:45

I'm like don't get it on my Friday. Oh

53:47

wow. I understand mayonnaise but never

53:49

heard ketchup, mustard. What if you

53:52

had Buckmary Kill

53:54

condiments edition? Buckmary Kill condiments. Oh

53:56

my god. Okay. Kill ketchup. It's just

53:58

never going to happen. happen with

54:00

me, kill. Mary,

54:07

is guacamole a sauce? Mary

54:10

guacamole, that's the only like dip sauce thing that

54:12

I'm obsessed with. I have avocado on everything. Okay.

54:15

I love it. That's a new discovery. That's about

54:17

like we're about two years into the avocado phase

54:19

and he I love it. Can

54:22

I tell you that I thought

54:24

that avocados were a new

54:27

like a new discovery for them for family.

54:31

This new thing is avocados are actually,

54:33

if avocados were to have a birthplace

54:35

they probably do it would be LA.

54:37

For sure but I mean it wasn't it was

54:40

like college maybe high school I was like

54:42

oh my gosh what is this stuff I never

54:44

had an avocado before it's really

54:47

I mean that is Alabama for you

54:49

so I get okay Mary guacamole. Fuck.

54:52

Yes. Fuck is like a one and done kind of

54:54

thing. Yeah. Could

55:00

do maybe I could like

55:03

a aioli like mayo. I will suck

55:05

aioli. Okay. Because I will like okay

55:07

so here's the thing like if if

55:10

I'm ordering fries and a little aiolis on the

55:12

side I'll do one dip of the fry in the aioli

55:14

just to try it and I'm like it

55:16

doesn't taste that bad but I just rather

55:18

not. Okay. That's that's what that's kind of what

55:20

a fuck is it's a one night stand. You know I do

55:22

it one time I'm done. Bye see ya. Yeah

55:25

that's what it is. Okay okay that's

55:27

great. But near kill Taylor Swift

55:29

eras. Okay kill

55:31

evermore. Honestly

55:34

the girls come after me for

55:36

that but it's the truth. Yeah

55:38

yeah I like folklore evermore is

55:40

hard. Yeah I love folklore. Mary

55:43

in 1989 call me a fake

55:45

swifty call me basic I don't care it's a

55:47

great album I love every single song and I

55:49

will listen to it over and over and over

55:51

again and then fuck just because it's kind of

55:53

like bad girl era reputation and I just feel

55:56

like so like mysterious and cool and edgy when

55:58

I listen to that album. I I

56:00

love those answers. I don't know what my I think mine

56:02

would be I Think

56:05

Mary I love midnight. I'm loving

56:07

it I feel like it's so smart

56:09

but also has those like 1989 vibes

56:12

to it, which was like my favorite It's

56:15

good. Folklore is also Yeah,

56:18

I can understand kill evermore. I

56:20

love her But

56:23

if I had to pick one I

56:25

love her all of them like

56:27

cardigan below. That's a great black if I had to like

56:29

take one out would be that one Mary

56:34

Midnight and then when you

56:36

said like fuck reputation. I'm like I could kind of

56:38

get down that or 1989

56:40

because There

56:42

was great. Yeah. Oh Yeah,

56:45

that's I got it. I'm not doing this. What's popping

56:47

fast enough. Okay How

56:50

much does your outfit cost? I love it. Yeah. Oh my god.

56:52

How much is Java customer had to tell let's talk about it

56:54

Okay The shoes

56:56

are Doc Martin loafers. They're about a hundred

56:58

forty five. The socks are under Armour literally

57:00

$20 Which

57:02

is kind of expensive for socks Their

57:05

pack good. Yeah, good. Good. I

57:07

am wearing I lost all my luggage and

57:09

Barcelona this summer And no that I'm wearing are

57:11

the ones that I bought on my last resort

57:13

at a little vintage shop because I had nothing

57:15

else To wear and I love them and their

57:18

pink their pink basketball shorts And

57:21

then this shirt was I think like

57:23

$50 are you a thrifter I You

57:28

see a huge thrifter. I'm really into vintage

57:30

now Okay, I really love me to read

57:32

vintage and like finding things that like no

57:34

one else. I'm the same way Have you

57:36

been to Paris? Yes, okay I

57:39

there's this one place in Paris that I'm like I

57:42

spend all my money in this place because I know there's just like

57:44

Good stuff there and you feel cool.

57:47

Oh, so cool. Where'd you get that? Oh vintage? You

57:49

can't have it Sorry Sorry,

57:53

I mean When

57:55

I was actually in Paris in February

57:57

I got these 2005

58:01

Prada swim shorts and

58:05

I'm like obsessed with like saying that they're from 2005

58:07

so like I was wearing them the other day the

58:09

beach and it's one of my friend was like oh my

58:12

god where did you get those Prada swimsuits I'm like oh

58:14

what are those swimsuit where's that swimsuit from like

58:16

oh it's Prada 2005 and

58:19

she was like okay I didn't need to know the year I'm

58:21

like but I just wanted to say I'm sorry I

58:24

love that what is your fashion

58:26

ick? fashion ick

58:29

so many oh my god if I'm wearing

58:32

it don't say that no no no

58:34

fashion ick honestly right now

58:36

I'm really not into bucket hats really right

58:38

now were

58:42

you ever into bucket hats? never I actually

58:45

was actually was yes I was like three years

58:47

ago into it okay also another one like checkered

58:49

print unless it's on a shoe not like

58:51

a like a gigging what you know

58:53

like real checkered yeah yeah checkered not really

58:56

into that like skinny skinny

58:59

skinny jeans hey I'm

59:03

really not into like matching sweatsuits in

59:05

public anymore I'm kind of over that too

59:07

like I would say we did it

59:09

we did it dress so much I think dress a

59:11

little cuter for the airport but still comfortable but like

59:14

a little cute I agree I always wear jeans

59:16

and like a comfy shirt but I like jeans you're

59:18

pushing it with the jeans girl but

59:21

they're like the ones that are like four

59:23

sizes too big that are like comfy yeah

59:26

no we're not wearing like anything that's uncomfortable but

59:28

yeah I look I've struck up some

59:30

conversations with strangers and they probably were looking what I

59:32

was wearing and I was wearing jeans and they're like

59:34

oh she means business girl means business she's not

59:37

wearing a mask I mean her she is

59:39

asleep with a stuffed

59:41

animal and she has a sleeping mask on

59:43

her mouth is just

59:45

like completely open and she is

59:49

is she dead I don't know but she's

59:52

wearing jeans so we're

59:54

gonna help her out I'm gonna I like

59:56

fall asleep immediately on the plane okay what

59:59

is one that you could do today that

1:00:01

will make for a better tomorrow. Oh

1:00:04

my god, I love that! What

1:00:06

can I do today to make for

1:00:08

a better tomorrow? I think

1:00:12

read my book tonight before bed

1:00:14

for at least like 10-15 minutes.

1:00:17

I love to read, oh my god. But this summer

1:00:19

I have not been reading at all and I have

1:00:22

this book, I've been reading forever, I want to finish

1:00:24

it. What's the book? It's called Red,

1:00:26

White, and Royal Blue. The

1:00:28

first son of the United States, his mom is

1:00:30

the president, and the prince of England, they fall

1:00:33

in love. It's a gay love story. I'm

1:00:35

a big reader too, so I love to hear what people are reading. Fiction?

1:00:39

I like everything, I love a memoir. I

1:00:41

think reading fiction before you go to bed

1:00:44

instead of like a self-help something is

1:00:46

really smart because it just kind of

1:00:48

like... It's the last thing you think

1:00:50

about when you put your head on the pillow. I mean maybe

1:00:53

not like a murder mystery, but I do

1:00:55

that sometimes. But it just like gets you...

1:00:58

I think it can be really easy to be on

1:01:01

your phone, to be thinking about work constantly. So just

1:01:03

like take yourself to like a

1:01:05

different world, different dimension. I

1:01:07

do think that that can help for a better tomorrow,

1:01:09

so I love your answer. I love that you're reading.

1:01:12

Yes, I'm a part of the reading community. I

1:01:15

love that, me too. I

1:01:17

read all types of things too, but I think I

1:01:19

am partial to fiction. Because... My

1:01:23

mind. Thank you so much

1:01:26

Davis for coming on today. It means so

1:01:28

much to me. I'm so excited for all

1:01:30

the things that you're doing. For

1:01:32

everyone who maybe is on the

1:01:34

cusp of being lame, make sure

1:01:36

you have TikTok and you start

1:01:39

following what's popping so that you

1:01:41

can be unlame. Seriously.

1:01:44

That's so nice. Thank you for having me Hannah. This

1:01:46

was so fun. I really appreciate you.

1:01:48

You're such a star and

1:01:51

you have the best hair. Thank you.

1:01:55

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