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Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart

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Radio. I'm your host, Bobby

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Brown. People

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know that the reason I do what I do

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about confidence and making people feel

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better is probably because of all the things

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that I felt. When I was a kid. I

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used makeup as a way to make myself feel pretty,

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and it took me a long time to realize that I

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was actually pretty as a kid,

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and I wasted a lot of time and energy. But

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I've also been someone that has

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struggled with my weight. And no

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I'm not heavy. I was thirty pounds

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heavier when I was a kid. I

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have been on every diet, I fragged out how to lose

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all the weight, and as I got older,

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you know, I'm three

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kids. I've made three babies in this body.

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But I've also been on TV.

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I have been, you know, basically

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sitting in the front row fashion Week, if not behind.

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And I've just always dealt with

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how I felt in my clothes. And when

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I was thin, at my thinnest, which could

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be five to ten pounds, I

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felt like a rock star. And when I

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was at my heaviest, which was five

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to ten pounds heavier, I just always

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felt and I still feel just

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not comfortable in my skin. So I just

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feel better, leaner, but

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I also can't seem to get there because

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I really like to eat, I like to go out,

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and I like to have fun. So I'm really

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excited about talking to Lawrence Layton, who

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has a company that helps people

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figure out what to eat and how to lose weight. It's

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called Food Trainers. And

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you know, she's my go to person

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because she understands that it's

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normal to go to parties,

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it's normal to travel, it's normal

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to want to drink, and how do you

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drink? Like so many people will

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say, Okay, well you can go on

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this one cleansing program, give

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yourself a week or two weeks when you're not going anywhere.

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I'm like, well that will never happen because

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I do go out and I am, you know, pretty

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normal, and you know you

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want to go out and you want to enjoy your life. Here's

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my conversation with Laurence Slayton. All

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right, Lauren, I'm gonna start with some icebreaker questions.

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What's the last thing you eat today?

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Um, chocolate chocolate?

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What kind of chocolate from home from

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Hugh Kitchen? Chocolate mint?

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Always chocolate mint How

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many pieces did you eat? I had two squares

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to the little squares, Yes, okay, did

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you have a whole bar because the squares

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are little? Yeah, that's not a lot. So did

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you have the whole barn? You can control yourself. I

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did. Okay. What's your

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go to cocktail? Uh?

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Just one? Um? Usually

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it's mescal. Um. I don't

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like do like a mixed drink if I'm out,

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but I like to do a little mixing

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when I'm home. So it's usually lime

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juice, mescal, a

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little bit of like um, like a combier

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or an orange liqueur at

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like it's like less than half

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an ounce, but like just cuts it a little

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bit and I make small drinks to my

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husband complains, um, because

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you'd like to have to know I have one.

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But it's just like you know, I do. I do have a little

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sweetness. It's not just you know, sort of

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straight. But I'm one and done. Um.

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What's the last workout you did? Um?

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I did. I didn't work out today. I did

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a run yesterday. How many miles

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four miles? You stretch

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before and after? I don't ever stretch

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before I am now you know, in

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recent years, stretching after what's

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your last food splurge? I

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mean, well, I do good, good versions of

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splurges often, but good

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Um Gluten Free Bakery opened

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near office and I went with

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my son. He didn't like it as much as I did on

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Saturday, and they had Um gluten

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free pizza, so it was good. It was

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delicious. What was the flower it out? They

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do? It's a good question. They do

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a mix of quinoa nillet,

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like a worthwhile worthy flower.

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Because I've been really into the grain free

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products. What are your thoughts on green free

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versus? There's um pagels.

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Do you know those? The paleo bagels? I don't,

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but I will order some as soon as we walk out of here. We're

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very good. Um you get them online pagels.

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Yeah, they're great. They're they're they're made

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with almond flower. They you know, don't spike

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your blood sugar at all. What I find

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is that, like, I love a lot of those products,

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but they they're fattening. Women

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have them too often. Um, they're not feeling

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great. So still like, even though they're fine

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and not you know, refined

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flour, I think still control

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them a little bit. I have so many questions. I think these

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icebreakers are turning into an interview. What's

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the last restaurant meal you ordered? Sushi?

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I think? So what's your sushi order?

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Your personal one. I'll do like some shoshidos

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and I'll do some salad and then you

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know, a couple of hand rolls without rice. So do not

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eat ever. I mean

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I'm not. I'm glad. I don't eat gluten,

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but like I do eat rice. Um.

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You know it's usually like I'll pick rice if

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I'm cooking it. Um. I love black

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rice. Um, but not a lot. All

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right, so let's get down to the meat

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of this, because it wasn't meat. No, no, no,

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no, this is just the start. How

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how long have you had food trainers? I always

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can date it by my son. I was pregnant with my

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first son and he's seventeen. So yeah,

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November, it will be eighteen years. Well that you started

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food trainers, it was like nutrition

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was not as you know, the same twenty

5:33

years ago. So did you go to school for

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your nutrition? Yeah? So

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I was primed for like no

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reason, you know, it's just sort of like I like science.

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So I became and then I was

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going to take my MCATs and had my panic

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attack, which is the Universalistina.

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That's not a good sign with like your future career

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and where did you go to school? I went to Land

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for college. I took like a two credit

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course in nutrition. It was offered in the gym

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at It wasn't even like, you know, in a classroom.

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It was like in the basement of the fitness

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center. And I was like enthralled. But

6:06

it was like nutrition was still like the

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dietitian in the hospital. It was, you know,

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still a little bit for sick people. It hadn't

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you know, sort of morphed into something that people

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like that healthy people UM talked

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about a lot. And so how did it evolve?

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So I finished graduate school,

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you know, I was you know, doing anything and

6:26

everything. I was doing obesity research. I

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was doing nutrition in like

6:30

three different equinoxes UM

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and I noticed that people

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would brag about their trainers, this trainer

6:38

I have and blah blah blah, and then they would like hide

6:40

to come into my office, you know, or I was like

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have you told your friends about them? And they're like, no,

6:44

nobody knows that I come in. So it was like there

6:47

was like a stigma attached to like are you sick.

6:49

Are you really overweight? Like why do you need

6:51

a nutritionist? And so I knew

6:54

that there had to be like some evolution to take

6:56

it out of that, you know, sort of play like

6:58

the you know, sort of dietitian with the clipboard

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in the hospital. Not nothing against those people

7:03

you go to go to therapy

7:05

every week or trainer every week. You know, why

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should nutrition be um

7:09

any different. I'm sure some people that come

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to you it's not just about losing that last

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couple of pounds or ten pounds. Two people ever

7:16

come to you and they have like actual health

7:18

issues that they can't figure out, whether

7:20

it's their skin or their good or something. Absolutely,

7:24

And I think oftentimes people come for

7:26

one thing and then they're you know, they sort of mentioned

7:28

in passing, but I'm taking this medication

7:30

for this, and and then you there are

7:32

things that can be remedied by diet, but

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you know, a lot of gut issues

7:38

or skin issues or headaches,

7:40

like a lot a lot of them have the

7:42

same triggers and a lot of them have the same you

7:44

know, the same remedy in terms of inflammation

7:46

and things of that nature. But yeah, I you

7:49

know, I find it super interesting

7:51

trying to figure out, you know, be a

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little bit of a detective honestly,

8:03

Like I I love your

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advice. And I've got so many people in my life

8:08

that give me advice that I've you

8:10

know, tried to listen to and figure

8:12

things out. But no matter what, I always

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go to you for the truth. So

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you're the one I think of that. You know, you're

8:19

not saying, well, you've got to stay home and

8:22

not eat out, you can't have a drink,

8:24

you can't do this, like you're so much about

8:26

real life. And I really, you know,

8:28

admire you for that. But the question

8:30

is why why am

8:32

I always hungry? Like,

8:34

like, I am a health food fanatic. I went to school,

8:37

I got my degree as a health coach. I really

8:39

healthy, but I don't eat

8:41

things that fill me up for hours. And

8:44

is this Have you always been like a hungry

8:46

person? I don't know. I

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I think I've always been a hungry person. You

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know, I'm five foot tall, so I think first,

8:55

if somebody says they're always hungry, I'd like dig a

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little deeper. So, like, how do you sleep? I

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sleep easily eight hours a night.

9:01

I have no problem. That's that's you're in the

9:03

minority. Yeah, I know, I am. I'm really lucky. I do

9:06

and VITAM. Indeed, do you take your vitamin I

9:08

do? I do? I take Vitamin D. I

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probably don't eat right

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enough, That's what I'm guessing.

9:15

I'm not sure that it means I'm

9:17

always trying to lose weight. You know, I'm

9:19

always trying to figure out how to keep my weight

9:22

down. You know, I can't

9:24

do it with exercise, like I'm not I don't

9:26

run marathons or I don't run

9:28

anymore. So I

9:30

walk, I do weights. I have a peloton.

9:33

And you think that when you say hunger,

9:35

um, we were when we were talking

9:37

before the podcast, we have something called a

9:39

chicken test rule, so like

9:42

sometimes we want to eat because we had something

9:44

that like didn't exactly do it for us. And

9:46

sometimes like if it's really hungry hunger,

9:49

I would say to a client like would you I

9:51

mean, depending on what proteins they eat, like

9:53

would like roasted chickens sound

9:55

good? And usually they're like no, some like then I don't

9:57

know. So I'm right now, but that's

9:59

a good thing, because you know, the thought of a piece of chicken

10:01

and I'm like, I'm not interested. So

10:04

I think again if if I think when you're

10:06

really hungry, um, and

10:08

I do think when people are sort of trying to cut

10:10

back that they sort of ride that you know, sort

10:12

of wave of being you know,

10:15

satisfied full versus walking

10:17

around hungry. But like like a boiled

10:19

egg or chicken or like you

10:21

know, baked salmon sounds

10:23

good when you're hungry. It doesn't sound

10:25

good when we want something. Boiled egg sounds

10:27

good. I don't know about I guess I don't like chicken.

10:30

Okay. I think it depends on like your your foods

10:32

or your proteins. But I think they're

10:34

like it's distinguishing between what's

10:37

hunger and what's like thinking about food. And

10:39

I guess I'm always confused about what to eat,

10:42

so I don't know it surprises me. So

10:45

for example, I don't remember what I ate for breakfast

10:47

today. I know I grabbed a swooziees because

10:49

I saw that on your Instagram. But

10:52

that's all now. But

10:54

so I had one, Okay, there's small, small one

10:56

I put in the microwave. Even I hit microwaves because

10:59

I was literally literally running out the

11:01

door. That was my breakfast. Anything at

11:03

it, like anything good, fat with that because

11:05

I ran, oh no, no, I ran out the door, and I had a couple

11:07

of cash shoes in the bottom of my purse.

11:09

So I had a couple of that in the car. That was my

11:12

breakfast. And then lunch, I

11:14

went to bear Burger and had a bison

11:16

burger. It wrapped with

11:19

a collard green and avocado

11:21

and some onions, and so I had that satisfying,

11:24

Yes, but now I'm hungry again, So maybe

11:26

I'm just hungry. Hunger is not bad, you

11:28

know, when your body uses up what it's

11:31

been given, then then you're hungry again.

11:33

But did I eat properly? I

11:36

mean I love the larger lunch. Most

11:38

people, the typical working person does

11:40

kind of what you did in the morning, like maybe a

11:42

little something or maybe not rushing,

11:45

and then maybe a little something. You

11:47

actually did better than the average person at lunch, and

11:49

then we have this huge dinner. So that's like a triangle

11:51

if you think about that, Um, what you wanted,

11:53

the best way to eat and the best way to eat. If we

11:56

think about circadian rhythms and how our

11:58

metabolism's work is to have a

12:00

protein breakfast, you did that. I think it just needed

12:02

probably a little bit more. Umph, was it a protein

12:04

breakfast? My schoozie had almond flower they're

12:07

like muffins made from really

12:09

good ingredients to they're little. Yeah,

12:12

So I think it needs like a little almond

12:14

butter or like some pastard butter or something

12:16

like that, depending on what you like. And then

12:18

that that lunch was great,

12:20

you know. So it had the protein, it had you set

12:22

avocada right, some um

12:25

good fat, and it had also some veg

12:27

so that set you up well. But again

12:30

that's for some people. That would give them

12:32

three four hours. For some people, I think your

12:34

lunch should at least give you a couple of hours of staying

12:36

power. So I guess I ate lunch at

12:39

one And what time is it now? For

12:42

thirty? So is that it's normal? That was

12:44

normal? Now you're ready for something else? Like

12:46

what I what would I have now? If

12:48

I was what should I have had in my bag? Um?

12:51

Well, we could go to your person. It's

12:54

empty, I think, you know, I think

12:57

again, it's it's boring advice, but I think nuts

12:59

work, you know. I think again, something

13:01

to fuel you, well, you can if it maybe

13:04

not always so exciting. So some walnuts, some pistachios,

13:07

a big fan of olives, little

13:09

packages of those depending on

13:11

where your tastes are. You you said, eating like chicken,

13:13

but like jerky. Um, We're a fan of

13:15

like well made jerky for like approach so

13:17

salty, you know, and they're little

13:20

like you know, like bro foods, but like we

13:22

have like these turkey pepperoni ones at the

13:24

office. And do we eat breakfast or

13:26

do we do intermittent fasting? Well,

13:28

timing is definitely legit. So I think

13:30

that a lot of people see intermittent fasting

13:33

as a fad, and it's it's really sort

13:35

of how we're supposed to eat. We're not supposed to start

13:37

eating at you know, dawn and eating until

13:40

midnight, you know. So that's timing

13:42

matters. But I think that how

13:44

you apply the timing

13:46

research matters whether you're

13:49

male or female. Females due to our

13:51

hormones much more sensitive to like blood sugar.

13:53

So I think we use like a

13:55

basic rule of twelve hours for most

13:57

people. So depending on how your day works, it could

14:00

be eight to eight, could be nine to nine. So

14:02

that to nine is so easy. I mean I was trying

14:04

to do till eleven I could do right,

14:06

So I was ravenous from nine to eleven in the morning,

14:08

I was pretty hungry. It depends when you wake up.

14:10

So I think that I think you should

14:13

have breakfast. I think it shouldn't be first thing,

14:15

and I think it doesn't have to be like a

14:17

major meal. But I think it's I

14:19

think most people end up with like that runaway

14:21

train if they try to. I'm

14:24

so scientific, sqush your day too much and

14:26

start at noon and finish it let's say, you

14:28

know, six, Because it's mostly the men

14:30

I know that have lost a lot of way doing intermittent

14:33

fast because it's easier for them, you know. So,

14:35

And like, one of the million reasons

14:37

why I would never see men and women together is

14:39

just that, you know a lot of I

14:41

think both there, Um, I'm

14:43

stereotyping, yeah one,

14:47

but no in general, Like if I have

14:49

a male client and we can be much

14:51

more aggressive with um,

14:53

with timing than I can with a female client,

14:56

I think both they're not you know, typically

14:59

as emotionally connected to food, like

15:01

you know, like I don't know, just to me, if

15:03

I think of one meal a day, I'm like sad a really

15:06

um. And the other thing is that it

15:08

just works works for them. So I'm

15:10

also someone that likes to have something sweet

15:12

after I eat, and you know, I

15:14

will go to my cabinet and throw a couple of gummies

15:16

in my mouth or Lily's dark

15:19

chocolate with Stevia. But

15:21

I always and it almost is like a shut

15:23

off thing. Is that bad? And

15:26

what should I be doing instead? Yeah?

15:29

I mean again, it's all in the context

15:31

of your day. You know. I don't again, like some stevia chocolate

15:33

chips. It's not it's not gonna it's not the end of

15:36

the world. But I do think a lot of these things. And I

15:38

see a lot even more with people at lunch

15:40

and work lunches. They're like, I need something sweet,

15:43

uh, and then they you know, sort of follow it up with like an

15:45

herbal tea isn't going to do it for me. So

15:48

but I do think that it's the kind of thing like

15:50

none of our habits are static, so

15:54

it's a habit that could be broken. Um,

15:56

you know, if you went a week without doing that, you'd

15:58

probably sort of you know, sweet to get sweet

16:01

not wanted as much, or you say, like

16:03

you know what like some you know

16:05

a little bit of fruit or sugar free

16:07

chocolate, chips with Stevia. I'm

16:09

okay with that. Some people have like some non

16:12

negotiables, they like, you know, sit down when

16:14

I see a client and they're like, I'm going to have a drink. I

16:16

need to have a drink, you knowable

16:19

alcohol, and let's negotiate from there. So

16:21

I think, and I'm fine with that. I think, like,

16:24

you don't want to set somebody up to be like especially

16:26

initially, to be for going like those little

16:28

like you know, someone else said to me yesterday,

16:31

like my protein bar is like the best part

16:33

of my work day. So again

16:36

to get a new job, that's my advice back

16:38

to them. Um, but you know again, these food

16:41

rituals, like kind of like that little sweet

16:43

after lunch for you or the protein bar or the drink

16:45

for one person sometimes give somebody a

16:47

lot of pleasure. So you just have to it

16:49

can't be you can't have the drink and the sweet

16:51

and the car. No. No, that I've learned.

16:54

And so I'm and I'm also down to five five

16:56

days a week. I have I have a cocktail with

16:58

only skip days. Oh yeah, that I

17:01

could. Sundays I'm okay, and Mondays I

17:03

can get through. Sometimes I get through tuesdays

17:05

too, but it's like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

17:07

Saturday. I don't know, it's just yeah,

17:10

now I'm with you, you know, Yeah, you're with

17:12

me. And I went to two lane.

17:14

No, but I feel it. But I like, you know, I like

17:17

what you do in that. I think a lot of people

17:19

I'm like, well, can you skip a day?

17:21

I think it's a good test because I think with most

17:23

things we should be able to skip them, especially with alcohol

17:26

or something that's habit forming. Um.

17:28

And also that you have a system you

17:30

know that works well. My husband does a dry January,

17:33

but I gotta be honest, I have to drink twice as

17:35

much if he's not drinking, I've got

17:37

to drink both of our you know, I know

17:39

that people are sober. September is like a big

17:42

thing now, so we're September? Are you kidding at

17:44

that? Weddings and parties and it's

17:47

a long time. I know. Everything is a freaking Instagram

17:49

term now right, hashtag?

17:51

Hashtag sober? Yeah, no, not gonna happen.

18:02

So what do you eat for lunch today? I had

18:04

leftovers because I made like a chili

18:07

the night before, um with

18:09

no beans or turkey. Chili, so you cook.

18:11

That really helped. I think it's hard.

18:14

You don't have to cook, but I think it's

18:16

hard. I really think it's underestimated.

18:18

How much like just like assembling or

18:20

like putting your cook though too don't Yeah,

18:23

I mean I assemble. I don't cook. I assemble.

18:25

So what was in your chili? Um?

18:28

Turkey from the farmer's market? Um,

18:31

like crushed tomatoes, cum

18:34

in chili powder onion, um,

18:37

you know, delicious and

18:39

you don't eat beans. I organized

18:44

my week much in the way that you do. UM,

18:47

So I sort of early in the week

18:49

try to be like lower alcohol, lower

18:51

carb, and then like come like Thursday,

18:53

the weekend kind of changed the rules

18:55

a little bit. What's your thoughts

18:58

on dairy? There's better dairy in a

19:00

dairy so cheap and goat are

19:02

less inflammatory than cow. I think

19:04

fermented dairy like yogurt, is different than

19:06

you know, having um, a piece

19:08

of mozzarella cheese or something like that. Um.

19:11

But again it depends on the person. How

19:14

is somebody is somebody having are they

19:16

you know, for lack of better term, gassy after they

19:19

have dairy? Um? But I

19:21

think we shouldn't be eating a ton of dairy. But

19:23

I think what about Greek yogurt?

19:26

What's your thoughts on Greek yogurt? I like Greek

19:28

yogurt. I think there's like really good things

19:30

and there wasn't for a while happening with the non dairy

19:32

yogurts too, like the coconut

19:34

yogurts and things of that nature. Coconut yogurt

19:37

has no protein in that right, you have to act

19:39

like, yeah,

19:41

but I'm fine with eating a big thing of fat. So

19:43

then talk to me about keto. Yeah, like

19:46

like there's keto out there, Okay, then you

19:48

should want to get inside your head. I know,

19:51

it's just it's like so complicated. It's like,

19:53

Okay, then there's a factor.

19:55

There's weight watchers, there's keto, and

19:57

it's like but the paleo

20:00

but you we could go through each of those

20:02

things and they're just like we said, with

20:04

intermittent fasting, timing matters, there

20:07

is you know, there's a power

20:09

to two good fats there, especially if

20:11

somebody's trying to get off of carbs and sugar.

20:13

To bump those good fats up a little bit,

20:16

it makes it a little you know, there are

20:18

a lot less miserable in terms of like withdrawal

20:20

if you have ample good

20:22

fats. But that doesn't mean I'm not you

20:24

know, down with like s of your

20:27

diet coming from fat, even avocados.

20:30

So we can go on forever with all these different

20:32

options. And honestly, the more you're talking about food,

20:34

the more I'm getting hungry because it's the kind

20:36

of food I really like, healthy, good food. But

20:39

when you do work with someone, what's the first thing

20:41

you do to kind of figure out

20:43

what they're doing, what's going on, and how you can help them

20:45

with their diet. Yeah, well, I think that oftentimes

20:48

people come and you know, sort of there's a

20:50

lot of standard lines, but one will be like

20:52

I'll be you know, sort of look at their info

20:54

sheets. I've tried everything, and they're sort

20:56

of dejected and like, you know, and here I am.

20:59

And but like I like to go back through

21:01

the things that people have done and sort of like

21:03

you we all have like history, we know,

21:05

and people will tell me, oh, I like that help me.

21:08

Even something like weight Watchers help me with portion

21:11

control, and this I liked

21:13

because it was getting me to cook

21:15

more, you know, so find you we

21:17

usually like, you know, what is it like the Wizard

21:19

of Us, like you had the power all along, Like I

21:21

think a lot of us, even with all these

21:23

new things, we kind of have a sense of like I feel

21:26

really good. You know that salad doesn't work for me,

21:28

or um, I do better with a bigger lunch.

21:30

So it's really trying to help people find

21:33

the use their history to then form their

21:35

plans. So you're kind of like a therapist. I

21:37

mean it's really it's hard to talk about food without

21:40

really, you know, sort of getting into it, you

21:42

know, and I think you get into what

21:44

somebody has done diet wise, what you know, sort

21:46

of where they are in terms of confidence. Uh,

21:49

is there anything you struggle with personally? I

21:51

mean I'm just like like a anxious

21:55

you know, a person who's like head is always going

21:57

and always thinking and always overthinking

22:00

and you know sort of so shutting that off is

22:02

actually you know, I think I drink you

22:06

said, I came to talk to them, like, Okay, four

22:08

CBD gummies last night. Do those

22:11

work? They don't work for me CBDs

22:13

individual, but like they work for

22:15

me really, which I mean I

22:18

think the two best and there's a lot of crap in

22:20

terms of CBD, the two best companies

22:22

and I haven't tried everything are Lord Jones

22:25

and Wildflower. Lord Jones is so pretty,

22:27

so freaking expensive. Yeah, but um

22:30

and Lord Jones and Wildflower does like

22:32

a tincture that works really well because you can like go

22:34

up and down. But I think that about

22:37

I forget what the figure is, but like there's fifty

22:39

percent of people CBD doesn't

22:41

really does CBD for you? Does

22:43

like one or two Lord Jones gummies

22:46

calm you down? Yeah, I mean I have like a

22:48

whole little repertoire, Like

22:50

I have magnesium and I have CBD

22:53

calm. I take Holmes at night. Yeah, that's

22:55

really good. That's got magnesium. Yeah. So

22:57

I think that like when I like cocktail

22:59

up a few of the relaxing things. But I think there's

23:01

not like a person or a

23:03

person in like a health profession who

23:06

like checks off every box. Even when we we

23:08

do a program, we do a program a few times

23:10

a year that's like our it's one week

23:12

and it's like a little more strict and

23:15

we do it in the office along with everybody,

23:17

and we're like wow, like when you're sleeping

23:19

and you know, cooking all your like it

23:21

works, you know. But nobody puts everything

23:23

together every week. So now it's

23:25

it's we're all here on a journey. So

23:28

what do you think about, you know, those of us that

23:30

are always trying to lose that last five or ten pounds,

23:33

Like, well, how do you do it? Number one? And

23:35

what is going on? Why is it such a

23:37

big deal? Well, I I don't. I think like I always

23:40

I hear that a lot, and I always questioned

23:43

some I think like a lot of people, it's

23:45

a lot of healthy people. Maybe

23:47

it's not like I can't lose the last five

23:49

pounds, but it's that we all have a range like

23:52

one weight if you're going on a beach

23:54

vacation or a reunion, and

23:56

another weight like if you're in a turtleneck in

23:59

the middle of the winter. You know. So I think that and

24:02

we all know that getting towards the

24:04

lower end of our range, if it is five pounds or

24:06

ten pounds, means less carbs and

24:08

you know, more exercise and really sort of like

24:10

dotting all your eyes. But I

24:13

think a lot of especially females,

24:15

like you know, nothing works for me,

24:17

or I can't lose the last five pounds or both.

24:20

It's like it's this script that we have like we

24:22

have to flip, like some weeks you have in

24:24

a week and some weeks you have like a C plus

24:27

and and it's okay, but and

24:29

it's normal. And I think that nobody

24:32

looks at their exercise and

24:34

it is like expects to have like a

24:36

perfect you know, great runs every

24:39

day and you know not you

24:41

know, get through every spin class and feel

24:43

fabulous. We know, like some workouts are

24:45

great and some you just like check off.

24:48

But with food, we don't. We think we should like

24:50

sort of be um more

24:52

perfect than I think we should be. And I think it sets

24:54

us all up to be like more imperfect

24:57

than we need to be too. And

24:59

so do you subscribe to the theory

25:01

that it's calories and calories out? Does

25:04

anybody still subscribe to that? Most

25:07

people? I want calorie counting

25:09

and skim everything to be nonfat,

25:12

everything to be dead. So you're you're yogurt

25:14

is not zero percent not

25:17

nothing like skip the skim with

25:20

every Yeah, for a bunch

25:22

of reasons. One, um,

25:24

it's when you skim dairy this, I'll try

25:26

to gross you out. So when you skim dairy,

25:29

um, the process of skimming concentrates

25:31

the androgens which are male hormones. It's

25:33

one reason why skim is um. They discovered

25:35

that when they saw that skim dairy was associated

25:37

with increased in fertility, so

25:40

it also acne. That's why you know a lot of

25:42

skim dairy causes that. Um. But also

25:44

just like how satisfied are you if

25:46

you have a non fat Greek yogurt? Like I would

25:48

be hungry and I put blueberries and flax

25:50

and chia and I'm okay, okay, so you like doctor

25:53

it up a little bit? I do, But no,

25:55

I think like the real shebang with everything, and

25:57

what about sweeteners, Like I'll usually put steve

26:00

Via on it because I try not to, you

26:02

know, do the whole glass semic thing. But Stevia's

26:06

I mean it's okay. I mean, if you look

26:08

at sweeteners, it's pretty good. Um.

26:11

I think stevia and monkfruit are both

26:13

you know, ones that you know are you're not a honey

26:15

guy or a molasses I

26:18

mean I own I mean, am I

26:20

cooking for like you know, a sixteen year

26:22

old? Or like am I for yourself? Yeah?

26:24

I mean I'll have like some really good honey if I

26:27

feel like I have a sore throat or something like that.

26:29

But I'm not. I'm not such a sweet person.

26:32

I'm you have the cheese conversation.

26:35

Cheese is your thing? Yeah, I mean the potato

26:37

chips, potato chips, cheese. Which one would

26:39

you grub? I mean I'm just any anything

26:41

like both both? Yeah, okay,

26:44

like anything savory. And I love the crunch

26:46

like I I could eat like a chip. I

26:49

just love that crunch and my son loves

26:51

that. I get them, I like buy them and like

26:53

look at them. The Martin's Pretzels from the Farmer's

26:56

Market has like a bowl, you know,

26:58

like if you ever want to you know, if you ever want to feel at

27:00

about your metabolism, like live with teen

27:02

boys, because I'm like it's just

27:04

unbelievable. Um.

27:07

But yeah, crunchy, salty,

27:09

I love all of that and we take that over

27:12

like a candy in a second. So

27:15

what bars? Would you recommend people throwing

27:17

their bags? Or you anti bar? No?

27:19

I mean I think in any category there's like,

27:21

you know, better options and um

27:24

and worse out. I think you don't want to do a bar

27:26

every day. If you can, it's just as easy to you

27:28

know, sort of throw um some nuts

27:30

in a container, etcetera. Um, really

27:33

love a bar called Yes Bar. Do you know those?

27:36

I've seen it. Yeah, they're also around

27:38

and they look kind of like a cookie, so but really

27:40

clean ingredients they do. Um,

27:42

a maple pecan that's really good if you like pecan

27:45

pie, like salty sweet. Um.

27:47

A local bar called the Merit Bar. Do you

27:49

know those? They're fantastic.

27:51

They're like, oh, they're almost like fudge. They're at the dark

27:53

chocolate based bar with with nuts

27:56

and plant protein. Their vegan one is really good.

27:59

Um. I think our X bars are good.

28:02

Um. Do you sell all

28:04

of these on your site because you

28:06

have a really interesting curated

28:08

grocery store. Basically yeah, thank

28:10

you. Um. I mean it's like such a like passion

28:13

product. We will we will not

28:15

sell things once they get like once everybody

28:17

can get in our X bar at the airport. Um,

28:20

we don't need to see you know, they can get it on Amazon. We're

28:22

not going to give them the best price because we don't buy

28:25

in volume. But we'll sell like the small

28:27

little brands that we like and

28:29

as really a convenience to clients. And now

28:31

it's kind of and and what

28:33

was that when I bought it? I bought it from you, and

28:35

I've seen it and I have bought it again. The

28:38

little jar. It's got espresso

28:40

and almond butter in it. Oh yeah,

28:43

so good. Um, it's a brand called

28:45

Caramelized. They do yeah, really great

28:47

nut butters. But that coffee one is really good.

28:49

So good, yeah, really good. You were asking

28:51

about breads or for another person,

28:54

it's Chocolate's like if you, I

28:56

mean, do your research or we

28:58

can do your research for you, Like you really can

29:00

find good versions of You're not like we're

29:03

not eating like kale and like dried fish.

29:05

You know, dry fish good

29:07

kale and good fish is good. So yeah,

29:10

but I think this notion of like what healthy

29:12

is is like off putting to some people, and it

29:14

shouldn't be. And for the people out there

29:16

that are listening that you know can't really afford

29:18

your fees, they can't afford your book. The book

29:20

is great. What's the name of the book,

29:22

little little weight, A

29:24

little bit little book of them. But your book

29:26

is still really great. So what could

29:28

people do Because a lot of the food that we talked about,

29:30

they're pretty pricey, and

29:33

not everyone you know has that kind of a budget.

29:35

No, and and that It's really important to me

29:37

because you know, obviously,

29:40

like we're one on one fees. That's not for

29:42

everyone, and what can we do for

29:44

everyone? So the book, the podcast,

29:47

I think you know, social and not just

29:49

not me, but like I think people can get a lot

29:52

of good, um, you know, free

29:54

information and yes we

29:56

talk about um, you know sort of the

29:58

bars and some you uh,

30:00

these products and the pagals, but like

30:03

you can just as easily like roast

30:05

some nuts with like you know, something spicy

30:07

or you know, maple and make a batch

30:09

of those. I think the best thing people can

30:12

do, like if money is an issue, is to

30:14

like just do it themselves a little

30:16

bit more. You know, the smoothie I make at home,

30:18

I think I calculated at once. It's like, you

30:20

know, three dollars that same smoothie, you

30:23

know if I add everything and could be fifteen

30:25

dollars at a smoothie place. So

30:27

so what goes into Laurence Layton smoothie.

30:30

It depends. There's there's a whole

30:32

like cabinet of tricks. Tell me your favorite

30:34

smoothie. I'll give you. There's a

30:37

I'll give you one that's good. So, um,

30:39

I think that a lot of people like do

30:42

a lot of sweet things and smoothies, which is fine.

30:44

I love um to do a smoothie

30:46

that I do with usually some sort

30:49

of collagen protein and like some sort of a nut

30:51

milk and I do um basil

30:54

and a little bit of lemon zest. It sounds

30:56

really weird, it's really weird. Now it's really

30:58

it's it's really delicious. But also I think

31:01

chocolate protein, something like tahini,

31:04

a nut milk, um, like you know,

31:06

a third of like a greenish banana or something

31:08

like that. UM can kind of make you

31:10

know, sort of a third of a greenish banana

31:12

junian one that's not yet right?

31:15

Well, I well, bananas.

31:17

Bananas are a good question. So I think bananas

31:20

as they ripe and get sweeter. Um,

31:23

so they're one of the sweeter fruits. But they

31:25

do wonders for a smoothie. I think banana

31:27

and also avocado kind of make the difference

31:29

in a smoothie. Is it a whole banana or a

31:31

half? And is it a half of avocado

31:34

corn? Well, you want to be careful with the

31:36

avocado or you'll taste it, which is not

31:38

what you want. But it's usually like I would say a

31:40

couple of tablespoons of avocado,

31:42

or like I think, if you have a weight last goal,

31:45

half a banana. If you don't have

31:47

a weight last goal, you know, do a banana,

31:49

do too bananas? You know that kind of thing. I

31:51

am so um excited

31:53

to get all this information, and

31:56

yes I am hungry, and I

31:58

really can't wait to go home and make your movie.

32:00

But mostly just keep giving us that great advice.

32:03

And where could people that are listening find

32:05

you Food Trainers dot com

32:07

and at food Trainers on Everything

32:10

on Instagram and Twitter, etcetera.

32:12

In your podcast. Um, it's

32:14

the Food Trainers podcast on Spotify

32:16

and iTunes. Um. We do an episode

32:19

a week, and you know, I think it's again. We

32:21

wanted people to have the chance to be like a fly

32:23

on the wall in our offices, even if they can't

32:25

come to our offices. So that was the

32:27

goal of that. You know, I'm going to listen

32:29

to the intermittent Fasting

32:31

one on my way home. Okay, good, Yeah, thanks

32:33

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32:35

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