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Throughout history , humans have been
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told tales of creatures lurking
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in the shadows , but few have
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captured the imagination as much
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as the dogman . So
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what is dogman ? Well
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, dogman is a cryptid derived
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from the Greek cryptos , meaning hidden
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. These creatures of lore have been
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sighted by many , but confirmed
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by few . From the depths of
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our oceans to the most secluded
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forests , criptos
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have been whispered about around campfires
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and passed down through generations
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. The existence of cryptids
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can often be traced back to ancient civilizations
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. For instance , dragons , arguably
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the most recognized mythical creatures
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, find mention across various
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cultures , from the Chinese Long
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to the European Fire
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Breathing Dragon . These creatures
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, despite no real proof that
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they exist , play vital
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roles in cultural narratives , often
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symbolizing power , fear or
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reverence . Cryptids
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often serve dual purposes they
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represent the unknown that humans
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inherently fear and
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simultaneously , they embody
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the spirit of discovery , the
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potential of what might be out
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there . Amidst this milieu
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of mythological beasts and elusive
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sea monsters , the dogman
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, primarily a North American phenomenon
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, emerges as a relatively
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recent and unsettling entrant
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. Described as a bipedal
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creature with a human-like body
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but a canine head , the dogman
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is said to inhabit the dense forests
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of the Northern United States , especially
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Michigan .
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Regarding dogman , he's an interesting
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little set of tales . He's
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certainly not as popular as
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the Loch Ness Monster or
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Sasquatch , but
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he certainly is
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fairly well known by folks
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in the know . I've seen
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a reporter that there's been more sightings of
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dogman than there have been of Sasquatch
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.
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The dogman originates from
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ancient myths and legends from
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different cultures around the world . One
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of the most iconic deities of
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ancient Egypt , anubis , has
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the body of a man and the head of
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a jackal . Has the god of
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mummification and the afterlife
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. He played a crucial role
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in the burial process and in guiding
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souls to the afterlife .
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He was a human for the most part
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, but had the head of a dog , or
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the head of a jackal more specifically , and
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that's one of the most well-known creatures
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.
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Anubis , as a guardian of the dead
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, holds dominion over the realms
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that humans cannot fully understand
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. Similarly , the dogman
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emerging from forests and uncharted
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territories represents the
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unknown or supernatural aspects
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of our world , reminding us
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of the mysteries that still exist
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. Common
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in European tales , werewolves
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are humans who transform into wolf-like
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creatures during a full moon . Such
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legends emphasize the duality
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of human nature , and they can be found
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from ancient Greece to medieval
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Europe . Ghosts
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and other shapeshifters emphasize
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the thin boundary between human
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and animal . The dogman has
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a permanent blend of the two , can
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be seen as a representation of the
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duality both the civilized
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and the wild residing in one
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being Prevalent in
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indigenous tales , the coyote
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often appears as a trickster
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figure , while sometimes depicted
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in holy animal form . Many
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stories emphasize his anapomorphic
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abilities and behaviors . Just
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as the coyote in indigenous cultures
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embodies unpredictability and mischief
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, the dogman , by eluding
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definitive evidence of his existence
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, represents the unpredictable
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and unexplained aspects of the world
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around us . These
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human canines vary in nature
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from benevolent guides to menacing
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figures , and they underline
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humanity's intrinsic fascination
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with blurring the lines between
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man and beast . Over
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time , as cultures intermingle , stories
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often mix elements from various
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myths . The dogman might
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be a modern manifestation of
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our need to personify the unknown
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, drawing from a melting pot
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of ancient legends . In
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essence , while the dogman legend
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is a product of modern folklore
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, its roots might very well be
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entrenched in these age-old tales
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. Such myths , having survived
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generations , serve as a testament
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to humanity's consistent yearning
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to understand , explain and
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personify the enigmatic world
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around them . The dogman , in
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this lineage of stories , continues
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this tradition , evoking fear
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, wonder and curiosity
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in equal measure .
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And that kind of goes throughout all history
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here into modern times , where
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now we have people today
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talking about seeing these upright
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walking dogs anywhere
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, from within the woods to coming
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up to their homes , to crossing the road
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, to appearing in their
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homes . They tend to be very
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menacing and that
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is something that seems to have been a very
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common storyline
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with these things throughout history .
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The dogman legend is especially
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associated with the Midwest region
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of the United States , particularly
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Michigan . It saw a remarkable
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surge in popularity during the 1980s
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. While stories and local folklore about
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creatures resembling the dogman
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date back to indigenous tales
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and earlier settler accounts
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, it was really in the latter
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half of the 20th century that the dogman
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legend gained widespread attention
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. One of the
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most pivotal moments for the popularization
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of the dogman myth was when Steve
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Cook , a radio DJ
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at WTCM FM
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in Traverse City , michigan , produced
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and aired a song titled the
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Legend as an April Fools' Day prank
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. Intended
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merely as a fun local joke , the song
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unexpectedly resonated with a
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wide audience . The song narrated
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eerie encounters with a humanoid
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canine creature which many
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listeners identified with . Following
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the broadcast of the legend , the radio
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station was inundated with calls
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from listeners who believed they had encountered
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a creature similar to the dogman or
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knew someone who had . These tales
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spanned decades , suggesting the
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creature's presence in local folklore
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. Well before the 1980s
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, the sudden interest in the dogman phenomenon
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caught the attention of local and then
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national media . News
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outlets began covering the legend
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, leading to a broader awareness
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of the myth , amplifying its reach and
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adding a level of perceived legitimacy
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to the accounts . As the legend grew
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in popularity , more and more
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people began to share their experiences
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and encounters with the creature . Whether
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these accounts were genuinely paranormal
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experiences , cases of mistaken
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identity or simply tales
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spun from the fabric of imagination
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, they undoubtedly added
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fuel to the dogman fire . The
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1980s was also a time
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when interest in the paranormal , ufos
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and cryptids like Bigfoot was
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high . The dogman legend
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fit neatly into this cultural
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milieu , offering a new regional
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mystery for enthusiasts to latch
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onto . What began as an April
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Fool's Day song in 1987
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, unexpectedly tapped into
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a wellspring of local folklore
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, resonating with regional tales
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and personal experiences . The
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media's role in propagating the
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legend , combined with the cultural
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climate of the time , ensured
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that the dogman myth would become an
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enduring part of American
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cryptid lore . In
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the realm of American cryptid folklore
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, few stories have managed
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to capture as much attention , skepticism
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and genuine fear as the
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tale of the beast of Ray Road
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, nestled in the heart of Wisconsin's
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Wallworth County . Ray Road
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might have remained just another nondescript
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rural route if not for the sightings
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of a mysterious and terrifying
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creature that catapulted
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it into the spotlight in the late
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20th century . The
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first reported sightings of the beast
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of Ray Road date back to the 1930s
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. However , it was the late 1980s
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and early 1990s , when the volume
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of reported encounters surged
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, giving the legend its momentum
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. Witnesses varied slightly
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, but witnesses generally described
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a large , hairy creature with a muscular
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build , standing between 5
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and 7 feet tall . Its face
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bore resemblance to a wolf
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or a German shepherd , but it
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was its human-like hands and
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its propensity to stand on its hind
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legs that deeply unsettled
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those who claimed to have seen it . In
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the early 1990s , local
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newspaper reporter Linda Godfrey
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from the Wallworth County Week decided
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to investigate the numerous reports
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about the mysterious creature . Initially
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skeptical , godfrey's perspective
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shifted as she delved deeper . The
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sheer number of witnesses , coupled
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with the consistency in their accounts , began
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to paint a picture that was hard
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to dismiss outright . Godfrey's articles
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on the beast of Ray Road became a sensation
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. What might have been brushed
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off as local gossip or tall
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tales suddenly began drawing
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regional and eventually national
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attention . Tv crews
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, journalists and cryptid enthusiasts
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started flocking to Ray Road
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in hopes of catching a glimpse of the
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creature or at least documenting
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the experiences of those who had
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. The sudden surge in popularity
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of the beast of Ray Road led to
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a plethora of theories trying
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to explain the phenomenon . Some
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believed it to be a previously undiscovered
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species , a relic from a bygone
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era . Others posited
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that it was a werewolf , drawing parallels
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with the European legends of men transforming
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under the full moon . The more skeptically
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inclined attributed the sightings
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to misidentified known animals
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like bears or even large dogs
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, arguing that the fear and
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power of suggestion could distort
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one's perception . Yet
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another theory that gained traction was
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the idea of a bear wolf , a
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hybrid creature born from the union
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of a wolf and a bear . This
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theory attempted to bridge the gap between
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the beast's canine features and
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its size and stature , which often
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resembled that of a bear . The beast
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of Ray Road is not just a standalone
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legend . It is part of the larger
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tapestry of dogman sightings
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across North America . Still
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, what makes the beast of Ray Road's
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story particularly compelling
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is its concentration in a specific
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geographic location and
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the sheer number of witnesses
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. Within a relatively short time frame
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, the legend has found its
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way into numerous books , documentaries
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and even films . Linda Godfrey
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, who can arguably be credited
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with bringing the story to the masses , has
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written extensively on the subject
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, providing one of the most comprehensive
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chronicles of the beast of Ray Road
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encounters . Even decades
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after the initial flurry of sightings
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in the 90s , reports of the encounters
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with the beast of Ray Road continue
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to trickle in . While they might not
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garner the same media frenzy as before
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, these accounts serve as a testament
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to the legend's enduring grip
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on the local and broader cryptid
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enthusiast community . For locals
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, ray Road has become more than
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just a stretch of pavement it's
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a landmark , an identity and
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, for some , a place of genuine
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fear . While many go there
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out of curiosity , hoping to catch
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a glimpse of the beast , others avoid
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it altogether , especially
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after dark . The beast of Ray
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Road , like all cryptid legends
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, straddles the line between reality
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and folklore . The truth of
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its existence may never be definitively
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proven or debunked . However
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, its impact on local culture
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, american cryptid lore and
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the broader discourse on the unknown
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is undeniable . Whether
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a product of collective imagination
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, misidentification or
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a genuinely undiscovered
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creature , the beast of Ray Road
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serves as a potent reminder of
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humanity's timeless fascination
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with the mysteries that lurk just
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beyond the peripherals of our understanding
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. In the end , whether
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it's real or imagined , the
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beast has etched its place in
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the annals of American folklore , a
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testament to the power of stories
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and the human imagination .
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From dogman encounters people who have experienced
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these things all across the United States they
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get a feeling of immense dread
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, of immense evil . You
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think about our
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relationship that human beings have with wolves
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. Wolves are always the bad guy
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interpretations of the Bible of
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wolves . Always beware of the wolves
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Wolves in real life if you meet
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them . They're very shy creatures and avoid humans
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. There are reports of them attacking people
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, but it's very rare , not like bears . Bears
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are much more aggressive towards people than wolves , but
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wolves don't go out at night or the big
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bad wolf stalks this woods . You
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hear about the Native American encounters where
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they have nothing nice to say about a dogman
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, where I think it's interesting , where a lot of Native American
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tribes , even to this day , if you talk to
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them , where they say , oh
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, bigfoot , we leave them alone , they
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leave us alone . Some of them have
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benign descriptions of Bigfoot . Some
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of them have aggressive depictions of Bigfoot
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. A lot of them do . Some of them have
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even a benevolent depiction of Bigfoot oh , they
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bring us food and fish when we're
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starving , or something like that . The Bigfoot are
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good here . They never have anything nice
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to say about dogmen . They say that they exist
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, some of them if you look into
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the skinwalker type stuff , especially
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in the Navajo tribe and some of the southern tribes
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of the United States
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there's people who talk about , when they see a dogman
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, not just fear but the sense of
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evil comes over them .
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The only time that I've ever heard of
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something more in the positive
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sense is with children . I talked to a
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woman who had ongoing
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interactions with the creature and
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it was not terrifying at all for
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her , but she was a child . Recently I
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talked to a man that his friend
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told him as children that he
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wanted to take him to meet his friend out in the woods
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. So they went out in the woods . They came across
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an old shack out there in the middle of
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nowhere and his friend goes up on
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the porch , looks in the window and says , oh good
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, he's home , and he said that there was a bunch
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of chewed up toys on
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the porch . He goes
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up and looks in the window and he
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sees an upright standing walking
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dog inside this house
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. It was like the dog's house
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and he obviously
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freaks out , runs away and stuff and
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the point is that kid
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that took him there believed that that
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was his friend . And so
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there is this little bit of a pattern that I'm starting
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to see where people are having very positive
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interactions with these things , but it's always
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, in my case with what I'm
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seeing . It has always been with
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them as a child .
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One of the earliest modern dogman sightings
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took place in the Wisconsin city
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of Racine . Mark Shackleman
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, a diligent night watchman , had
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taken up the responsibility of guarding
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the sacred grounds of the St Coletta
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convent in 1936
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. As the cloak of night fell
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around him , a peculiar stench
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, reminiscent of rotting flesh , wrapped
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itself around the hollowed grounds . Deep
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in the patrol , mark's flashlight
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beam caught a glimpse of a dark silhouette
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An unearthly creature cloaked
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in inky black fur with long
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, ominous claws , seemed to be defiling
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an indigenous people's burial mound
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. Before Mark could fully process
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what he was witnessing , the beast
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, sensing his presence , took
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off , vanishing into
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the night . The subsequent dawn
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revealed a chilling scene Footprints
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interlaced with claw marks suggesting
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a creature of nightmares . Yet
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two of its fingers appeared crippled
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or withered . A growing
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sense of dread crept into Mark's heart
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as night approached . Again , he
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knew he had to return . The next
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night was even more chilling . As
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the fog rolled in , mark once
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again spotted the creature , now
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even more ferocious , raking
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its claws over the same mound
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. Has Mark stepped closer ? The
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creature did the unimaginable . It locked
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eyes with Mark . In the heavy
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silence , it uttered a chilling
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word , or perhaps a name Gadara
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. Resisting the urge to flee
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, he slowly turned and walked away
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, feeling the weight of the creature's eyes
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pouring into his back . The last
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thing Mark remembered before the fog enveloped
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everything was the dogman's sneer
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and the relentless smell of death
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. Although Mark never encountered
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the creature again , the haunting memory
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and scent of decay would forever
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linger .
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And the whole legend behind dogman
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is very interesting . First of all , you
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know we see Sasquatch or
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Yeti or Bigfoot or Swamp-Aid
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for whatever you want to call it showing up literally
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all over the world , but
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no one claims it Dogman
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, for whatever reason is regionalized
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. He's often referred to as Michigan's
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dogman . Sometimes
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you hear about Ohio's dogman
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or Minnesota's dogman
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. You even have the beast of Bray
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Road , which I think is in Wisconsin , which
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seems to be a dogman
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entity . And
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so I've , despite appearing
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in I think it's 48
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out of 50 states in the United States
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and on six of the seven continents worldwide
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, antarctica being the only exception
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. You know it's most commonly known
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as the Michigan dogman . The
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first sighting was there back in
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1887 by some
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lumberjacks who described this , you
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know , large , seven foot tall
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, muscular dogman
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type creature . You know , literally a cross
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between a dog and a man
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that chased them out of the woods .
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I think that kind of leads credence to some of the missing
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411 cases out there . Missing
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people across the United States go
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missing under strange circumstances and sometimes
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they find paw prints or
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something in combination of teeth and
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paws , but also things
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that look like it has articulation in hands
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, almost like if a bear or a mountain
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lion had human like hands . It
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doesn't sound like a bigfoot , you know
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. I mean they can be ferocious , but nothing like like
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a bloodthirsty predator .
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What we see with bigfoot a lot of times
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is the only reported attacks
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are in an effort to get away
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from humans . It's
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usually , you know , a male
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bigfoot a female , if it's
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with young will start throwing , you know , large
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rocks or huge
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tree trunks at people and making
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these warning noises and it's again
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, it's more of an effort of leave us alone
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, go away , whereas with
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dogman it seems
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to actively pursue humans as prey
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. If you accept those
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stories and some people have even
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claimed to have been
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assaulted by dogman and gotten away
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there's some
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missing persons or people
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that haven't found dead that the
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cause of death is attacked by a
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pack of feral dogs in locations
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where you wouldn't expect to find feral
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dogs , like up in the Rocky Mountains , and
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so some people believe that's evidence of a dogman's
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siding .
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The legend of Dogman has been a
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subject of intrigue for
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many . Its elusive nature
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, combined with sporadic sightings
21:11
and anecdotal evidence , divides the
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populace into believers and skeptics
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. Delving into why some people believe
21:18
in the dogman while others dismiss
21:21
it reveals a complex interplay
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of psychological , sociological
21:25
and cultural factors . For
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many , belief encrypted like
21:30
the dogman arises from a deep-seated
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psychological need to believe
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in the unknown and unexplained
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. The world is vast , and
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the idea that not everything has been
21:41
discovered feeds the human spirit
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. Additionally , personal
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experiences and testimonies from
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trusted individuals can solidify
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these beliefs . For someone
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who believes they've seen or encountered
21:55
the dogman , no amount of skepticism
21:58
can easily shake their conviction
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. Skepticism , on the
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other hand , often stems from a
22:04
need for empirical evidence . The
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scientific method , which relies
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on reproducibility and
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tangible evidence , doesn't lend
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itself easily to cryptic claims
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, which are often based on singular
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, non-reproducible events
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. For skeptics , anecdotal
22:22
evidence isn't sufficient enough
22:24
to substantiate the existence
22:26
of such creatures . Dogman
22:28
tales and similar cryptids
22:30
are often amplified by media
22:33
movies , documentaries , tv
22:35
shows and books . These platforms
22:38
, while entertaining , can blur the lines
22:40
between fiction and reality for
22:42
some viewers . In a world where
22:44
sensational stories grab attention
22:47
, accounts of dogman encounters
22:49
can become deeply ingrained
22:51
in public consciousness . Conversely
22:54
, the commercialization of cryptids
22:56
can further entrench skepticism
22:59
. Seeing the dogman story told
23:01
in various media forms , often
23:03
with added dramatic flair , can
23:06
make the entire concept seem fabricated
23:08
for entertainment rather than based
23:11
on genuine encounters . Communities
23:14
, especially areas with frequent
23:16
dogman sightings or folklore , can
23:19
foster collective belief systems
23:21
. When multiple individuals
23:23
share stories of encounters or
23:25
pass down tales through generations
23:28
, it lends credence to the idea
23:30
. Being part of a group that believes
23:32
in the dogman can validate
23:34
individual beliefs and create a
23:36
sense of belonging . In
23:38
contrast , communities rooted
23:41
in scientific or academic settings
23:43
tend to be skeptical of cryptid
23:45
claims . Within these circles
23:47
, empirical evidence is paramount
23:50
, and without it the dogman
23:52
remains a myth .
23:53
I'm not sure traditional science even wants
23:55
to acknowledge the topic of dogman
23:57
. I think maybe
24:00
traditional history could acknowledge
24:02
the topic of dogman and you can look at the
24:04
historical context of these
24:06
creatures being in what you would call folklore
24:08
not real true stories
24:11
. But as far as science goes
24:13
, I don't think science wants to even touch it . I don't even
24:15
think science wants to acknowledge
24:18
the fact that dogman is a possibility
24:20
. I think dogman is a far
24:23
more extreme topic to consider
24:25
for science than even Bigfoot is , and we know
24:27
that Bigfoot is something that they don't want to
24:29
touch . But there have been scientists
24:31
that do go into the
24:34
topic of Bigfoot . I don't know
24:36
, off the top of my head , very
24:38
many scientists that have dabbled seriously
24:40
in the dogman community looking at the
24:42
facts of dogman .
24:45
To many , the dogman is a product
24:48
of folklore , a legend without
24:50
any real substance . But for the
24:52
sake of exploration , let's consider
24:55
the biological possibility of
24:57
such a creature existing . All
25:01
species on earth as we understand
25:03
them have evolved over millennia
25:05
to adapt and survive in their respective
25:07
environments . The concept
25:09
of bipedalism , or the ability to
25:11
walk on two legs , is not exclusive
25:14
to humans . Birds , some
25:16
dinosaurs and even certain primates
25:19
exhibit bipedal locomotion . If
25:21
we consider the possibility of a
25:23
canine species taking an evolutionary
25:26
detour towards bipedalism
25:28
, it would require a significant
25:31
set of environmental pressures
25:33
that would make walking on two legs
25:35
more advantageous than on four
25:38
. For a canine
25:40
to evolve into a bipedal creature
25:42
, profound skeletal changes
25:44
would be necessary as well . The
25:47
spine's curvature would need to alter
25:49
to support an upright posture . The
25:51
pelvis would require restructuring
25:54
to attach to two powerful legs
25:56
capable of supporting their entire
25:58
body weight . Such a transition would
26:00
likely take millions of years , assuming
26:03
there was an evolutionary advantage to do
26:05
so . Along
26:08
with skeletal modifications , there
26:10
would need to be substantial muscular
26:13
and cardiovascular adaptations
26:15
. Two legs would mean larger
26:17
muscles in the legs for support
26:19
and propulsion . The cardiovascular
26:22
system would have to adjust to
26:24
pump blood efficiently to a vertically
26:26
oriented body , maintaining
26:28
oxygen supply and removing
26:31
waste products efficiently . Transitioning
26:36
from a quadruped to a biped stance
26:38
would not just be a matter of bones
26:40
and muscle . It would affect the creature's
26:42
entire perception of its environment
26:45
. The eyes , which , on a dog
26:47
, are situated on the sides of its
26:49
head , might shift forward , similar
26:52
to primates , to provide better depth
26:54
perception . This change would be
26:56
crucial for a predator that now
26:58
has to navigate , hunt and protect
27:01
itself in an upright position . The
27:03
brain would also need to adapt , both
27:05
in terms of structure and capacity
27:08
to process information differently . With
27:11
a shift in body structure and hunting
27:14
dynamics , dietary needs
27:16
might also change . While a quadrupedal
27:18
wolf or dog can rely on its
27:20
speed and pack tactics , a bipedal
27:23
dogman might need to develop different
27:25
hunting strategies , possibly even
27:27
tools . This could mean changes
27:30
in its digestive system and
27:32
its metabolic rate . The
27:34
reproductive organs and
27:36
processes might also need
27:38
to adapt . How would a bipedal
27:40
canine carry its young ? Would
27:43
it still bear litters , or would there
27:45
be a move toward single birds
27:47
like humans ? Evolutionary
27:49
theories suggest that creatures that
27:51
invest more in individual offspring
27:53
tend to have longer lifespans , so
27:56
the dogman might have a different lifespan
27:58
than its quadrupedal counterparts
28:00
. The
28:03
environment plays a crucial role
28:05
in the evolutionary pathway for
28:07
any species . For a canine
28:09
to turn bipedal , its environment
28:11
would need to present challenges that favor
28:14
bipedalism , perhaps a landscape
28:16
where a standing tall provides
28:18
visibility advantages , or
28:20
where two-legged mobility offers
28:23
access to resources or shelter
28:25
. For
28:27
all these changes to happen , there would
28:29
need to be genetic mutations that
28:31
support each one . Evolution
28:34
as we understand it relies on
28:36
beneficial mutations being
28:38
passed down and amplified over generations
28:40
. The odds of all the necessary
28:43
mutations occurring in sequence or
28:45
simultaneously are astronomically
28:48
low . Assuming
28:51
the dogman did evolve , it would
28:53
need to establish its place in the food chain
28:55
. As a new species , it might
28:58
face threats from other established predators
29:00
. It would have to compete for food
29:02
, territory and mates , adding
29:05
another layer of complexity to
29:07
its survival .
29:08
There's also . You know the scientific
29:11
community doesn't really discount the
29:13
possibility of a creature
29:15
like this existing , but
29:17
they believe it would be more of a prehistoric
29:20
type animal
29:22
, somewhere between what
29:26
we think of as a modern-day
29:28
wolf and a dire
29:30
wolf , maybe
29:33
you know that's larger
29:35
than normal that people get confused
29:37
by , but they don't speak to how it's
29:40
. You know , virtually every encounter
29:42
the dogman's on his hind legs , walking
29:44
as a human would . Scientific
29:48
community doesn't offer an explanation for that
29:50
.
29:52
While the idea of a flesh-and-blood dogman is
29:55
captivating from a biological
29:57
standpoint , the odds seem heavily
30:00
stacked against its existence . Now
30:03
, all of that does not take into account
30:05
that the dogman may not be a flesh-and-blood
30:08
being , but , in fact , supernatural
30:10
. In many cultures
30:12
there are myths and legends of beings that
30:14
can transform between human and animal
30:17
forms , such as the werewolf and European
30:19
lore , or the skinwalker in Native
30:22
American tales . The dogman
30:24
might be such a being , not
30:26
bound by the limitations of the physical
30:29
realm , but instead a supernatural
30:32
shapeshifter . The
30:34
dogman can be seen as a modern
30:36
iteration of age-old tales
30:38
of beings that blur the lines between
30:41
humans and animals . For some
30:43
, these stories aren't just myths
30:45
but historical accounts providing
30:48
a cultural basis for belief . The
30:50
wide range of habitats and regions
30:53
where dogman has been reported is
30:55
puzzling . A single undiscovered
30:58
species being present in such
31:00
diverse conditions without concrete
31:02
evidence seems implausible . However
31:05
, a supernatural entity wouldn't
31:08
be bound by typical ecological
31:10
or geographical limitations . The
31:13
lack of concrete evidence , combined
31:15
with the eerie nature of the encounters
31:17
and the creatures placed in cultural lore
31:19
, suggests that the dogman may
31:21
be more spirit than species
31:23
.
31:25
Step aside from any kind of paranormal
31:27
topic of conversation when it comes to dogman
31:30
, because as soon as you start talking about
31:32
dogman being a paranormal interdimensional
31:34
type creature , really
31:36
the idea of needing to survive off
31:39
physical things kind of goes out the window in my
31:41
mind . But I
31:43
did interview a guy on my show . It
31:45
was episode 335 , dog versus dogman
31:48
. I had Kyle on the show and he
31:50
told me a story from when he
31:52
was 15 years old . He is from
31:54
Kentucky and him and his grandfather
31:56
used to hunt the Daniel Boone National Forest for raccoons
31:58
and they went out and
32:01
his grandfather could
32:03
not go out in the woods with him because he just
32:06
physically couldn't do it anymore . So they would
32:08
drive the truck into the woods , his
32:10
grandfather would park the truck , they get on a two way radio
32:12
and his grandfather would stay in the truck . So
32:15
Kyle lets the dogs loose , they
32:17
get on a sense and they take off and
32:20
they wind up treading a raccoon Kyle
32:23
as he's trying to keep up with his dogs . Now they're gone
32:25
. You're just listening to the barks and
32:27
you're kind of following the barks to keep up with your dogs
32:29
. He hears a
32:32
pack of coyotes coming in as well when they treat
32:34
this raccoon . And so his grandfather
32:36
gets on the two way radio and says do you hear the coyotes
32:39
? Get to the dogs before the coyotes do ? Because
32:41
if you don't there's going to be a fight . And
32:43
so Kyle said okay , and he's booking it through the
32:45
woods , he's trying to get there in time . He doesn't
32:47
get there in time and a fight breaks out . Now
32:49
what you need to know about the dogs that Kyle had , he had
32:51
two dogs . One's name was Bo , the other
32:53
name was Jake . Bo was the
32:55
younger dog learning how to hunt from Jake
32:58
, the older dog , and I guess that's how they train
33:00
their hunting dogs . Their hunting dogs are trained
33:02
by the older dogs . Jake was a
33:04
legendary dog in the area . Everybody
33:06
knew Jake because Jake was known to be the best hunting
33:08
dog . He was the biggest dog , the strongest dog
33:10
, the best dog for hunting . He was the best
33:13
. And so Jake's out there treating
33:15
the raccoon , kind of showing Bo how
33:17
to do this as well . When these
33:20
coyotes come in , bo
33:22
takes off and and
33:24
Kyle heard Bo take off , he
33:26
could tell Bo left and left Jake to fight
33:28
the coyotes alone . But Kyle
33:30
said that in this first round the
33:32
coyotes came in one by one and
33:35
Jake fought them off . It wasn't
33:37
very hard . You could hear the coyotes
33:39
go away and then they came back in as a group
33:41
. And when they came back in as
33:43
a group , kyle
33:45
said that you could tell and hear that Jake
33:48
was getting his butt handed to him . The fight turned
33:50
, jake was losing and he's
33:52
trying to get there as fast as he can . But
33:54
then he hears another dog come in and
33:56
join the fight and all of a sudden the
33:59
coyotes are , you know , running away
34:01
, crying and screaming and stuff , and Jake
34:03
goes back to treating the raccoon
34:05
and Kyle
34:08
arrives in the scene . He sees Jake treating
34:10
the raccoon , he comes over , pats
34:12
him on the head and he hears what he thought
34:14
was his other dog , bo , that came in
34:16
for the fight on the other side
34:18
of the tree chomping down on a coyote
34:21
. So he walks around this tree
34:23
to see and greet his dog and
34:25
what he sees is not his dog Bo
34:27
at all . What was there was a
34:29
huge dog . He said this dog
34:32
was so big that it was holding a
34:34
coyote by the rib cage in its mouth
34:36
, like the whole rib cage was in
34:38
the dog man's mouth . He's
34:41
terrified and
34:44
when he lays eyes on this thing , this thing locks
34:46
eyes with him and it stands
34:48
up on hind legs
34:50
and takes off after Kyle
34:52
. Kyle runs and as
34:55
he's running , his dog Jake comes in
34:57
after this dog man and this dog
34:59
man kind of just pushes it
35:01
away , just pushes it off the side Like it's nothing
35:03
. And there's Kyle still
35:05
running , the dog man is still coming . His
35:07
dog Jake comes back in a second time and
35:10
the dog man takes Jake and
35:12
just throws him through the woods and he said
35:14
you could hear Jake crashing through the trees
35:17
and he believed Jake
35:19
was probably dead at that moment . And
35:21
so he , I think . He said that he fell
35:23
and he winds up on his backside and
35:25
this dog man is coming in on
35:27
him and it's right there on top
35:30
of him . He said that it was so
35:32
close to him that he could see down the back of its
35:34
throat . He in that moment , in that those
35:36
split seconds , is thinking I'm dead , this
35:38
monster is going to kill me . It's over
35:40
. And for the third time
35:42
his dog Jake comes running in broad
35:45
sides this dog man and they get
35:47
in a fight . He gets up and starts running
35:49
away calling for his dog and
35:51
all he hears is this dog man
35:54
shredding his dog to pieces
35:56
like literally destroying his dog . And
35:58
so he's filled with tears , crying , running for his
36:00
life . Out of the woods he's fired . I
36:03
believe he fired off around and into the sky
36:05
when he hit like an opening , calling for his date for
36:08
his dog , jake . Jake doesn't come and
36:11
he gets back in the truck , tells his grandfather to take
36:14
off , and so they take off
36:16
and he tells his grandfather what happened is grandfather
36:18
told him that if you're going to spend time in these
36:20
woods you need to understand there are things
36:22
out here that you're not going to understand . His grandfather
36:25
knew these creatures were out there and
36:27
the next day they come back looking
36:29
for Jake . They can't find him but his grandfather leaves
36:31
a coat out there for
36:33
the scent in case Jake survived or Bo comes
36:36
back . They go back out that evening
36:38
and they see a dog
36:40
alongside the road and they get out thinking it was
36:42
Bo . And it turns out it was Jake . Jake actually survived
36:45
the attack . His ears
36:47
were shredded like noodles . He said I mean , his
36:49
dog was in really bad shape but his
36:51
grandfather , his grandmother , actually nursed the dog
36:53
back to health and Jake actually lived to be an old dog
36:56
and went out hunting again . He
36:58
said Jake was never the same hunting dog
37:00
again , but he did go out hunting and
37:02
doing what he loved to do . I say that story
37:05
to kind of draw this picture of a very
37:07
natural , real environments . And
37:10
in that environment of hunting , where a
37:12
dog is treeing a raccoon , wanting
37:14
to kill the raccoon , the raccoon is
37:16
food . Then there's coyotes coming
37:18
in on the dog , because the coyotes view
37:20
the dog as food and they think that they can all gang
37:23
up on the dog and kill it
37:25
. Why would they kill a dog to eat it ? But
37:27
that doesn't happen , because this dog man
37:29
came in during that fight and
37:32
wound up going after the coyotes and
37:34
killing one and eating it right . There's
37:36
something about the
37:39
coyotes that brought in that dogman
37:41
. Maybe it was the howling , we're
37:44
not sure . But one thing's for sure
37:46
is it wasn't coming in to
37:48
save Jake , it was coming
37:50
in because it heard food . And
37:53
so I think there's
37:55
a very real natural survival
37:57
tactic here where it's just hunt
37:59
, eat , survive .
38:03
As the reported dogman sightings , there
38:05
have been tracks , photos
38:08
and even audio recordings offered
38:10
as proof of its existence . However
38:13
, analyzing these pieces of
38:15
evidence critically and scientifically
38:18
is essential to separating
38:20
myth from reality . So
38:23
let's delve into a review of the primary
38:25
types of physical evidence related
38:27
to dogman claims . Physical
38:31
dogman tracks resemble oversized
38:34
canine footprints , often
38:36
larger than any known wild
38:38
canine species . These prints
38:40
may occasionally exhibit bipedal
38:43
patterns , suggesting an upright
38:45
walking creature . Track
38:47
evidence is one of the most commonly
38:49
presented proofs for many cryptids
38:52
. While with the dogman
38:54
, a major challenge in validating
38:56
tracks is differentiation . The
38:59
tracks can often be confused with other
39:01
known animals such as bears
39:03
, wolves or large dogs
39:05
. Environmental factors such
39:08
as rain or snow can alter footprints
39:10
, making them appear larger or
39:12
different than they originally were . Another
39:15
consideration is hoaxing , creating
39:17
fake footprints as pranks or
39:20
to generate interest in a location
39:22
. Thus tracks , while intriguing
39:25
, are not conclusive evidence
39:27
without associated genetic
39:30
material or concurrent
39:32
video evidence . Photos
39:35
purported to be of the dogman generally
39:37
depict a large humanoid creature
39:40
covered in fur . Some images
39:42
suggest a creature with a dog-like
39:45
head , muscular torso and
39:47
a bipedal stance . History
39:49
and the digital age is both
39:51
a boon and a bane for cryptid
39:53
research , while capturing
39:55
images has become easier and more
39:58
ubiquitous . So too has the
40:00
ability to alter and fabricate
40:02
those images . Many alleged
40:04
dogman photos suffer from
40:06
issues like low resolution
40:09
. Many images are grainy
40:11
, out of focus or taken from a
40:13
distance , making detailed
40:15
analysis challenging . Then
40:17
the creature could be another animal , a
40:20
play of shadows or manipulated
40:22
imagery . Without a clear frame
40:24
of reference it's hard to determine
40:26
the size , posture or even
40:29
the clear shape of the alleged creature
40:31
. While photos can be compelling
40:33
and often form the cornerstone
40:35
of cryptid claims , they require
40:37
thorough vetting , ideally
40:40
with the original , unaltered digital
40:42
file for analysis . Some
40:45
enthusiasts have presented audio recordings
40:48
of eerie howls and growls as
40:50
evidence of the dogman . These
40:52
recordings are characterized by
40:54
their unfamiliarity . They
40:56
don't match typical wildlife
40:58
sounds known to those areas . Audio
41:01
evidence is among the most challenging
41:03
to validate . Without visual
41:05
confirmation , attributing a sound
41:08
to a particular source is speculative
41:10
at best . All environments are
41:12
filled with a concoffiny of sounds
41:15
, many of which can be surprising
41:17
to the untrained ear . Known
41:19
animals can produce unfamiliar noises
41:21
when distressed , in mating
41:23
calls or even casual
41:26
communication . Technological
41:28
manipulation also plays a role . With
41:30
audio editing software , sounds
41:33
can be altered and pitched speed
41:35
and tone , making the origin
41:37
harder to pinpoint . Without
41:39
a clear chain of custody and context
41:41
. Audio recordings remain
41:44
intriguing but inconclusive
41:46
.
41:46
I do know that one
41:48
of the most compelling pieces
41:51
of evidence I've seen is known as the OnStar
41:53
recording . It's
41:55
where a man and woman
41:57
are driving down a road at night
42:00
and they use
42:02
the OnStar service , which was one of those
42:04
emergency in-car buttons
42:06
that would dial authorities for you
42:08
. They reported that they drove
42:10
off the road because they large
42:12
. Something ran
42:14
into the middle of the road and
42:17
the husband swerved to miss it and they ended up
42:19
in a ditch . They weren't
42:21
hurt and they tried to describe
42:23
to authorities what it was . Was
42:25
it a deer ? Was it a bear ? He
42:28
said . Well , honestly , it looked like a
42:30
really , really big wolf walking
42:33
on its hind legs . In
42:35
the course of reporting this and giving
42:38
this description , you
42:40
hear a very strange noise
42:42
. The husband and wife scream a
42:45
giant crashing sound or smashing
42:47
sound , and
42:49
then nothing . It goes blank . From
42:52
that point on , it's the OnStar representative which
42:54
is basically saying sir , sir , are you there
42:57
? That one's very unusual and
43:01
it's hard to explain away .
43:05
One of the strongest arguments against the
43:07
existence of dogman is the
43:09
lack of any physical specimens
43:11
. With many sightings over the
43:13
years across various regions
43:15
, it's surprising that no bodies
43:17
or remains have been found In
43:22
the age of DNA analysis . Even
43:24
hair or saliva samples
43:26
linked conclusively to an
43:28
unknown canine species would
43:30
significantly bolster claims . While
43:35
not physical evidence , eyewitness
43:37
accounts form a significant portion
43:40
of dogman lore .
43:41
The best evidence for me to receive
43:44
. If I'm looking for reasons
43:46
to believe in dogman for
43:48
me on a personal level , I am looking for
43:50
people who have seen it and are
43:52
able to describe it to me . I
43:56
like the idea of people coming forward
43:58
and sharing their stories as to what
44:00
they saw in detail , what they went through
44:02
. I think those are probably the best
44:04
evidences in the sense that you
44:06
get a sense of what that person went
44:09
through at that moment . Whether
44:11
you want to believe that they saw what they
44:13
think they saw is irrelevant
44:16
to the fact that you talk to some of
44:18
these people and you're like they definitely went
44:20
through something . I may not believe
44:22
what they think they saw is
44:24
reality and real , but they
44:28
definitely feel like they went through something
44:30
.
44:30
These testimonies , often detailed
44:32
and emotionally charged , can be compelling
44:35
. However , human memory
44:37
and perception are fallible . Without
44:39
physical evidence to back up these claims
44:42
, they remain anecdotal . The
44:44
legend of dogman , like many cryptids
44:47
, is rich with tales , sightings
44:49
and purported evidence . While
44:52
tracks , photos and recordings provide
44:54
tantalizing hints of the creature's existence
44:57
, none have been rigorously validated
44:59
by the wider scientific community
45:01
. This lack of conclusive evidence
45:04
doesn't necessarily disprove the
45:06
dogman's existence , but it does
45:08
call for caution and a healthy
45:10
dose of skepticism . In
45:12
the pursuit of understanding our world's
45:15
mysteries , it's essential to approach
45:17
such phenomenon with both curiosity
45:20
and critical thinking . The
45:22
dogman , whether real or folklore
45:25
, serves as a reminder of the vast
45:27
unknowns that still exist and
45:29
the human drive to explore and
45:31
understand them .
45:34
So there's definitely something here that
45:36
stems back to a very long
45:38
time ago . I think
45:41
there's a lot of people out there throughout history
45:43
who have had experiences
45:45
with this creature if you want
45:47
to just call it a creature but
45:49
they have not talked about it . I
45:51
think , as the century
45:53
turned , the last 20 years , with the advancement of technology
45:56
, I think humanity has gotten
45:58
to a point where people are more open
46:01
to discuss these kind of topics because
46:03
they read other people's experiences
46:05
on the internet far more than they could have
46:07
before , and so the scope , the
46:10
perspective , has grown a lot because
46:12
of the access to information , which
46:14
has allowed people to feel
46:17
more comfortable coming forward and talking about this stuff
46:19
, and I think that's why we're having a lot more reports
46:22
today than we would have maybe 20 , 30 years
46:24
ago .
46:26
The unknown has always fascinated humanity
46:28
, from the depths of the oceans
46:31
to the vastness of space . The
46:33
unexplored beacons For
46:35
many . Cryptids like the dogman
46:37
represent the terrestrial , unknown
46:40
creatures that exist just
46:42
beyond the fringes of our understanding
46:44
, evoking wonder and curiosity
46:47
. This might
46:49
argue that the dogman , like other
46:51
cryptids , is a cultural evolution
46:54
of ancient myths adapted for
46:56
modern sensibilities . Instead
46:58
of viewing these tales as historical truths
47:01
, they see them as allegories
47:03
or cautionary tales . A
47:07
distrust in mainstream institutions
47:10
can bolster belief in cryptids . If
47:12
one believes that authorities are hiding
47:15
or dismissing evidence of the dogman
47:17
, it reinforces the idea
47:19
that there is a truth being suppressed
47:21
. On the other hand , those
47:23
with strong trust in scientific
47:25
institutions are more likely to
47:27
await peer-reviewed evidence before
47:30
accepting the existence of entities
47:32
like the dogman . For them
47:34
, if such a creature existed
47:36
, it would have been documented or
47:38
studied extensively by now . Belief
47:41
in the dogman , or lack thereof
47:43
, isn't merely a matter of credibility
47:46
or skepticism . It's a complex
47:48
mosaic shaped by individual
47:51
experiences , community narratives
47:53
, cultural history and personal psychology
47:56
. While it's easy to
47:58
dismiss believers as naive
48:00
or skeptics as closed-minded , understanding
48:03
the nuanced reasons behind
48:05
those convictions fosters empathy
48:07
and dialogue . Cryptids
48:09
like the dogman serve a broader
48:12
purpose . Beyond their potential existence
48:14
, they challenge our understanding
48:16
of the world , push the boundaries
48:19
of accepted knowledge and , most
48:21
importantly , remind us of
48:23
the ways humans perceive and
48:25
interpret their surroundings . Whether
48:28
or not the dogman roams the woods or
48:30
is merely a product of our collective
48:32
imagination , its legend
48:34
encourages introspection
48:37
, curiosity and respect
48:39
for the diverse tapestry of human
48:41
belief . It's clear that this creature
48:43
, whether real or born of folklore
48:46
, holds a captivating grip on
48:48
our collective imagination . From
48:51
eyewitness accounts to cultural
48:53
narratives , the dogman's presence
48:55
in our stories speaks volumes
48:58
about our innate human fascination
49:00
with the unknown . The realm of cryptids
49:02
has always danced along
49:05
the fine line between skepticism
49:07
and belief , and the dogman is no
49:09
exception . While concrete evidence
49:11
of this bipedal canine's existence
49:14
remains elusive , the multitude
49:16
of testimonies and tales ensures
49:19
that it won't fade into obscurity
49:21
anytime soon . It's essential
49:23
to approach the topic with both
49:25
curiosity and critical thinking
49:28
. Every story , photograph
49:30
or piece of alleged evidence
49:32
should be analyzed with an open
49:34
mind , but also with
49:37
a discerning eye . The legends
49:39
of cryptids , including the dogman
49:42
, are as much about the creatures themselves
49:44
as they are about us , our
49:46
perceptions and our relationships
49:49
with the mysteries of the natural world
49:51
. Whether you leave this documentary
49:53
a skeptic , a believer or
49:55
somewhere in between , one thing
49:57
is certain the legend of the
49:59
dogman , like all enduring
50:01
myths , serves as a reflection
50:04
of our deep-seated need to
50:06
explore , to question and
50:08
to marvel at the vast unknowns
50:10
of our world . Until
50:12
the next mystery unfolds , keep
50:15
your eyes open , your camera's
50:17
ready and your senses of
50:19
wonder alive .
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