Join us as we chat about how super cool we both are. Sandy’s life right now consists of doing puzzles and making jam. Henny’s greatest excitement in life currently is the book she’s reading about roads, animal crossing, and roadkill. We also discuss some interesting ideas about anti-fat bias and how challenging it is to disrupt deep-rooted thoughts and perspectives.

**Show Notes**

Podcast we mentioned:

We Can Do Hard Things (Episode #262)

Book we mentioned:

Crossings: How Road Ecology is Shaping the Future of Our Planet by Ben Goldfarb