0:09

Andrew. Tape. Andrew.

0:11

Tate. If you haven't heard of him,

0:13

the big question today is simply is entertain

0:15

a good Bible teacher. I'm.

0:18

No. Vita, But it's

0:21

kind of important because Entertain is And

0:23

by the way, I gotta try to

0:25

parent warning or this. This part is

0:27

not for kids. not remotely please. If

0:29

you've got young kids watching this, they

0:31

shouldn't. Not this video, at least not

0:33

as part of this video. If they

0:35

want to watch later on, click to

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a question to or something like that.

0:39

But not not this part on the

0:41

bench retain is incredibly popular. The guys

0:44

get almost nine million followers on X

0:46

formerly known as Twitter and has a

0:48

very, very large. Reach a

0:50

reportedly. He's got more google

0:52

searches than almost anybody on the planet and

0:54

I don't know if that's true or if

0:56

that's part of the scheme. He he's dynamic

0:59

because he is a scammer and schemer and

1:01

that is his main thing as his number

1:03

one character quality is is manipulator but is

1:05

is he a good bible teacher. We look

1:08

at some specific clips from Agitate and we're

1:10

going to ask the question did he represents

1:12

ripped her accurately And let me show you

1:14

though why a lot of people really like

1:17

entertain? Here's a short clip of sort of

1:19

Moral Tate, the moral face of Andrew. Take

1:21

so you can understand why some people go hey

1:23

I I I liked this guy. He's helped me,

1:25

he's encouraged me, He's saved me in some ways

1:28

in my life because he says things like this:

1:30

My. Content existed because I tried by very hardest to

1:33

be an absolute not a realist, especially with uncomfortable truths.

1:35

I was pointing out that very on Com is the

1:37

truth is an uncomfortable truth in many parts of the

1:39

world is not. First the I'm happy about. I don't

1:41

want to be seen if a negative influence And are

1:43

all I know that there's a whole bunch of man.

1:46

I get thousands of emails a week for men whose

1:48

lives I've saved. I get thousands of emails a week

1:50

from men who were on the verge of suicide. not

1:52

the lives. I believe

1:54

in protecting providing I've been misunderstood. I don't want

1:56

anybody to be offended by anything I say. I

1:58

want to be a positive. In the world. I.

2:01

Don't want anybody to hear what I say to

2:03

make him feel bad about themselves. I want all

2:05

people to live righteous a good. whether they're male

2:07

or female. I think righteous of living true to

2:10

your heart and knowing that you're doing good by

2:12

people, not snaking anybody, not lying to anybody I

2:14

know I'll have a very righteous like should young

2:16

man aspire to work very hard, have no criminal

2:18

record, become multimillionaires. Protect to provide for the women

2:20

close to them. are these sovereign so they can

2:22

stand up a hopper on points of view and

2:24

face of cancellation. be able to not be mentally

2:27

intimidated when they go on national Tv and there's

2:29

trap set up with of yeah I believe that.

2:31

Confident, strong man who stand up and protect and provide

2:33

for women are good thing for the world, the good

2:35

force for the world And I don't think that I

2:37

thought magic spell on anybody. I think there's a whole

2:39

bunch of men in the world who understands my value

2:41

in if if men grow up to be like me

2:44

you're going up. A whole bunch of people would know

2:46

from a record. dedicated athletes who protect to provide to

2:48

the people close to them. So.

2:52

A lot of it sounds good. A lot of

2:54

that sounds pretty good. Solid. You like Miley Alex?

2:56

He also encourages a lot of guys would say

2:59

or injured. He is the guy that got me

3:01

out of my right. Arm that

3:03

scores of men who rightly feel

3:05

marginalized and erased by modern society.

3:08

Is in. Some ways, rightly. in some ways, wrongly.

3:10

Some way they're just being. Lazy.

3:12

Or whatever fits. But even in some ways

3:14

if they feel like be been erased by

3:16

modern society are they look to him as

3:18

a guide. And he teaches

3:20

responsibility. He teaches manliness. Ambition I'm which can

3:23

be is a do is a two edged

3:25

sword. But. Com. No ambition of any

3:27

kind at all is bad. He's going to have. Colonel.

3:30

Selfish. Ambitions: You and have ambitions to

3:32

seek first God's kingdom to be. Remember society,

3:35

those types of things I'm He's also teaches

3:37

realism and he's totally unashamed of his views,

3:39

which most honestly a lot of people find

3:42

that attractive, even if they find annoying people

3:44

who are just on ashamed of their views.

3:48

He tells people to do hard things. Take.

3:50

You should be doing hard things. Do hard

3:52

stuff. Go work out, Go to go get

3:54

really good at something. that kind of thing,

3:56

which is just generally good advice to people.

3:58

Don't waste your life. Then complain about it

4:01

like a passive victims. That's actually good

4:03

advice. I think a large part of

4:05

it's but he also really forgive my

4:07

language year. He also really sucks. Hesitate

4:09

really sucks and I are actually ran

4:11

a poll I know on x and

4:13

I asked the question he christians who

4:15

happen to follow me or see the

4:17

sports is it permissible for us to

4:19

be taught by and to take out

4:21

Some people don't know and or they

4:23

just they're not a christian I'm about

4:25

will elicit say a vast majority. The

4:28

vast majority of christians right now is.

4:30

Not okay. I would wager a lot of

4:32

the the twelve percent their that voted that

4:34

it was okay Hot. A lot of them

4:36

probably thought taught means can I learn something

4:38

from that guy like when you watch a

4:40

video of somebody who gets hurt doing something

4:42

dumb and you I can learn from that

4:45

twist is really mean anyone? The But But

4:47

why do they feel this way? Well here's

4:49

a quote of him explaining how the Bible

4:51

supports his view that women are the property

4:53

of their husbands and we're going to ask:

4:55

is Angie Tate a good Bible teacher. Do.

4:58

You. Think. That. Women

5:00

are property sure. So I think my

5:02

sister is my her husband's property. Yes,

5:05

when a. Bride. Is

5:07

walking down the aisle to marry the groom. The.

5:09

Father: what's next to her. And.

5:11

Gives her away true or false. That is

5:13

something that happens. Yes is you're giving her

5:16

away. Correct. The does not the Santa sound

5:18

at least in some ways semi related to

5:20

to property as under groom form of ownership.

5:22

Yes, farm ownership does the Bible say the

5:24

woman owns.the husband owns the woman. I believe

5:26

it off. As the Koran say

5:29

that.the. man on the woman in this. To.

5:33

Get three arguments there for the idea that

5:35

a woman is the property of of her

5:37

husband. And. Is something that I

5:39

think most. Pursuits would rightly be

5:42

like oh that's not right but he offers very missed.

5:44

The first one is the giving away of the bride.

5:46

Or the giving away of the bribes I've performed.

5:49

Weddings I've I've been in my own wedding, but

5:51

have been in many other weddings. I've done weddings

5:53

or number of them. The. Giving away

5:55

of the bride is usually we we typically least

5:57

in the weddings I've done it use of the

5:59

father says I asked them as a pastor or

6:01

would have asked. You

6:03

know, Who gives away this

6:05

bride and in the the the dad who

6:07

sitting there with his daughter says. Her.

6:10

Mother and I do. And that was

6:12

the line because he had to get the data, Remember the

6:14

one line and he's forget it all. So it's all the

6:16

way leading up to what he every time I saw the

6:18

data be like. Which. You line from other

6:20

an idea what's your life your mother an

6:22

idea because it otherwise is is begin nervous

6:24

but i but guys actually both of them

6:27

so then you have to the think that

6:29

see also the property of the mother. And.

6:32

Would be and t with that that's typically are

6:34

we would you the when it's on. Any rate

6:36

it's a family endorsement. This is where the bible

6:39

says that the those wife leaves her at them

6:41

at the husband rather leaves his his mother and

6:43

father has joined to is. To

6:46

he's leaving them and join to her. You're leaving

6:48

one family and starting a new family though. so

6:51

that the family you come from is endorsing that

6:53

by the doing the giving away of the bride.

6:55

And it's not a property thing. There's no ownership,

6:57

that's that's being and still there and people don't

7:00

generally think of it that way. To say that

7:02

is is just playing games with words. I would

7:04

give a lot more times less about the Bible

7:06

the bible question he got sent. The Bible say

7:08

that the wife is the. Property.

7:10

Of the husband and in the the interviewers

7:13

like yeah yes sir, that sounds guess tests

7:15

because he doesn't know the bible. He didn't

7:17

really know christianity. it's he just like sir,

7:19

Why not? Why not say that? That's exactly

7:21

what it says here with increase my Life

7:24

and I'm wearing the bible. Does it say

7:26

that Entertain You don't know, you don't read

7:28

the bible, You don't You don't have a

7:30

clue. the I mean I've watched enough vanity

7:32

to know this and I just speaking out

7:35

of turn your that demand really doesn't know

7:37

scripture if I asked him to locate the

7:39

Book of Hosea. He wouldn't know

7:41

whether to start me older new tests metals

7:43

is so he doesn't know this stuff on.

7:46

The. Bible does say a few things though that

7:48

I would see. Push. Back on this view

7:50

that a husband isn't it has the is the owner.

7:53

Of his wife's i'm or that she is his

7:55

property and in any real. Legitimate

7:58

sense. So there's. Not

8:00

on commentary and I do think that they're

8:02

sitting as male headship Scriptures says is very

8:04

clearly for screens. Eleven, Ephesians, Five We have

8:06

teaching about male headship husband's a that that

8:08

wise or to yield to their husbands. That

8:10

does this make them property? That does this

8:12

mean they have no authority in the relationship?

8:14

Know that? Absolutely Not true and I've got

8:16

lots of teaching on that. I won't go

8:18

over alternext and I'll see if he thinks

8:21

so. When. The. Man.

8:23

Or woman join together. They become one

8:25

flesh. That's that's Genesis. We're talking old

8:27

school bible stuff here. They become

8:30

one flesh that is not the language of

8:32

property, that the language of others have a

8:34

shared identity. But. It's not property

8:36

you don't become one flesh with. Your.

8:38

Cup of water he viewed. You know there's nothing you.

8:41

You. Are that your property that you become

8:43

one with? That's not the language in.

8:45

First for the and seven we have

8:47

this really interesting. Idea. For

8:52

spreading chapter seven verse for and bring to get

8:54

a lot more of a undertake to the owners

8:56

are I want to just honestly of because as

8:59

a lot of christians who follow me who actually

9:01

are aware of him and maybe or gleaning from

9:03

his videos and thing I can get a little

9:05

I can get some good stuff out of that.

9:07

I do want you to understand that he's a

9:10

dangerous false teacher I'm in regards to the bible

9:12

but more importantly are I should say more importantly

9:14

could a super important but more relevant to most

9:16

of what he says is he's just a total

9:18

scam artist whose playing you. Like. He's

9:20

playing you with all of his content. It's

9:22

all a game to. Get. Him

9:24

more money and and and attention. All that

9:27

stuff so I like to expose that are

9:29

for your sake school. I think it's. I

9:31

think people are realizing in some cases I'm. Suffers

9:34

within seven for the wife does not have

9:36

authority over her own body but the dies.

9:39

That's. That's diverse people, coffee, property,

9:42

Will if that means property, what is the next first part of a

9:44

verse mean. And. Likewise, the husband does not have

9:46

authority over his own body, but the wife does.

9:50

There's. A shared senses. Authority

9:53

that they have over each other's bodies. this is

9:55

in relation and you don't want expands to every

9:57

aspect of life can as now and pasok him

9:59

out. The when you with Jesus are

10:01

taking the by like contexts but in

10:03

his first the wife has. Sexual.

10:06

Claims like you know, the sexual fidelity claims

10:08

over her husband and he has the same

10:10

claims over his wife. Meaning of course that

10:12

he can't cheat on her. He can't go

10:14

be a polygamous that's not a biblical he

10:16

will talk about the second what entertains as

10:18

about polygamy The bible and I'm. And

10:22

yes this discourse my here so that he

10:24

doesn't just readers property. She has a very

10:26

high degree of authority in the life of

10:28

her husband. he just has a higher degree

10:30

which is where the bible comes in touch

10:32

with headship and a wife's to meet your

10:34

husband. But. She's not in authority

10:36

lists, sub submitter. she's almost very

10:39

high thirty Who yields? To

10:41

her husband who has a have a degree

10:43

higher authority based on Scotia. Is.

10:46

A. So it's not what the feminist movement

10:48

and is now a Danger Tate. once it

10:50

it's gonna be biblical. That's the view that

10:52

were looking for looking for here. Is there

10:54

headship? Ah yes. I'd like I said if

10:56

he does five for smithies. Eleven other other

10:58

passages is their leadership in the husband? Yes,

11:00

But the wife is A is a cold

11:02

leader under his leadership. She's not a non

11:05

leader as that's the difference ratios authority in

11:07

the home. She has authority over her children's

11:09

tears, authority in relation to sexual fidelity with

11:11

her husband. And. Those are important

11:13

things. She's a color. With Christ, she's deceased.

11:15

There's no male or female as regards to

11:17

her salvation. All those things. I

11:19

know. That weird thing here though is before we move

11:22

on, the host of firms this the host is like

11:24

yes sir, Yeah, the bible says that, why not. There's

11:27

a large scale ignorance about the bible. This is

11:29

why I went to equip you guys with

11:31

these answers and with the specific vs and talking

11:33

points you might say so that you can go

11:35

out, go up actually for his and show

11:37

people that the bible is. Better than

11:40

they think. And they should not, simply. Brushed

11:43

aside as outdated,

11:45

an abusive. Masochism.

11:48

right? That's that's that's not what we're

11:50

looking for there are I'm a. Massage.

11:53

And that's the term Deposits to know I'm

11:55

expose us on the third thing they said

11:57

which he entered he said with the current

11:59

under current support that's the husband owns the

12:01

wife and I just wanna say muslims you're

12:03

on your own I don't have with the

12:05

cracks Yes Teaches Alex I've seen that in

12:07

the garage and also don't know that it

12:09

doesn't teach that name. Is that it enough

12:11

to and I don't really. Have

12:14

any desire to defend. Islam. Islamic

12:16

religion. Myra Mohamad said he looked out.

12:18

it is a visionary, saw hell And

12:20

he looked and he saw it was

12:22

mostly populated by women. This

12:25

business and not christianity. Minute you do your

12:28

own thing, So

12:31

entertain. Treat.

12:33

The Bible, the way he treats everything else.

12:35

It's a tool he uses to manipulate other

12:37

people to give himself clout. And he. Influence

12:41

and ultimately control things. That's it

12:43

in that clip at. He claims

12:45

that men with God's approval can

12:47

sleep with as many what women

12:49

as they want, while women of

12:51

course cannot. So. Here's the

12:53

clip. Okay

12:56

so this this argument is one I've heard

12:58

so many trillion times they say will have

13:00

you can do that Why can't the woman

13:02

do that And I can answer is so

13:04

many different ways in your heart is like

13:07

ice hockey. My my harshest way that goes

13:09

against the will of God and nature. He

13:11

goes against the way of man. For the

13:13

longest period of human history, men had more

13:15

than one woman. Every tang a

13:17

result and read the bible, read the

13:19

Koran, and most of the world today

13:22

mental have more than one woman never

13:24

in history, in any book, ever and

13:26

any civilization to sit on a human

13:28

time have promiscuous women been celebrated. They

13:30

have been frowned upon every single society

13:32

ever. Sort of com wanna say woman

13:34

could do it too is disgusting. In.

13:37

The eyes of God In the eyes of nature.

13:39

you can come along with science and somehow then

13:41

try and fix it and prove it. So yes

13:43

oh my gosh it up.just wants the boys just

13:46

rather check on was the warriors are gods. Looking

13:48

down right now is like boys. I just want

13:50

you to run through checks. God is that God

13:52

wants us. That God wants the the man, the

13:54

master, the males earth to reproduce great his warriors.

13:57

God needs warriors. What parables that and it's it's

13:59

It's a. Take take fifty an assertion

14:01

that it look it up with the

14:03

would all these warriors New Testament. New

14:06

and old on a road amaral I'm around. The

14:09

streets read a book the i mean there some we'll see

14:11

and you know that sounds like tape. I wrote that one

14:13

that moves not I want to lose our take that one.

14:17

Oh boy. I'm not uncommon too

14:20

long about Cliff, but let's go through some

14:22

specifics of are the things that maybe you

14:24

you you wouldn't already know he'd obviously and

14:26

you take doesn't care what's in the bible,

14:28

he's using the bible for his own purposes.

14:31

He can. He goes off the cuff, makes

14:33

claims about it and then. And.

14:36

And then they try to push you might like what

14:38

would what would you give averse for that or something

14:40

he did like know I'm in the bible, I'm if

14:42

I'm all over the bible. In

14:44

heat heat what he does, instead of giving evidence,

14:46

he just makes an even bigger flame. This is.

14:48

this is an egomaniac. On loose

14:50

with itself of it's funny. But.

14:53

It's sad because he's really do is not

14:56

a skit on Saturday Night Live like is

14:58

actually actually doing this So. Every

15:00

instance of polygamy in the Bible that up

15:02

that you get any details about seems harmful,

15:05

even from the very first one. They all

15:07

seem like they're in a in a bad

15:09

light. Their negative: they're harmful. They they bring

15:11

all kinds of damage and trauma and issues.

15:13

Adam and Eve god me to and Eve.

15:15

One couple that is the standard Jesus When

15:17

he's asked about questions about divorce remarriage he

15:19

appealed to. Adam and Eve is the standard

15:21

I didn't notice. How did I make Adam

15:24

and Eve? And Jeanette and Tricia and Bambee.

15:27

A He made one man and one

15:29

woman. And that is that is the

15:32

Biblical model for marriage. That's what it means.

15:34

the first within seven passage that only works

15:36

if if polygamy is off limits. If a

15:38

wife has to sort of authority about sexual

15:40

relations in relation to her husband, Then

15:42

he obviously can't be going around sleeping with other

15:44

women now be a violation of that. They both

15:47

have that shared claim I to their and so

15:49

his whole principle of like it's unbalanced girls. Can.

15:51

See from the guys can now it's weird as

15:53

or modern culture. Went to say girls can and

15:55

guys can and it's like. I. Don't know

15:58

which one's worse. Entertainer: Our modern. This

16:00

way to people like the guy because at least is

16:02

pushing back on some of the proms their culture I'm.

16:05

They're both terrible monocultures, bad

16:07

entertainers. Not the solution. A

16:10

in indigenous in scripture guys forbade kings

16:12

you know he mentioned the kings of

16:14

Israel that the are they all had

16:17

had like multiple wives. like obviously this

16:19

becomes like their ideal men can detain.

16:21

If you're a ruler, you're more of

16:23

an ideal man because you're powerful. Because

16:26

power is something that is very much in

16:28

love with. At any rate, That's.

16:31

Not how the scripture deals these rulers.

16:33

Neither shall he multiply wives for himself.

16:36

This. Is something that God said about the kings

16:38

of Israel's that they should not do it.

16:40

A tendency of rulers they got actually says

16:42

don't do this. This is a bad thing.

16:44

So tate example backfires. That's Solomon. We know

16:46

when he had all these wives, he had

16:49

three hundred wise and damn. He.

16:51

Send because of it, is it his heart astray? He was

16:53

told not to marry all these women. He did marry them

16:55

and an. Inlet him into major sin.

16:59

Not. Only with the marriages themselves, but with

17:01

idolatry and all the stuff that it brought

17:03

with it. So entertaining thing

17:05

Solomon with like the chief example like you

17:08

guys rich the ice famous to get got

17:10

all these women and yet the women were

17:12

like a major thorn in his flesh. Survey

17:14

was a bit was a bad thing that

17:16

he married all these ladies Very that they

17:19

did. You know the in the New Testament

17:21

polygamy is even more clearly refuted in that

17:23

polygamous are said. It said a polygamous they

17:25

cannot be in ministry. Of.

17:28

A polygamous can't be a ministry. I bishops are

17:30

are an elder. When those types of people when

17:32

we go that he has me I think that

17:34

just be consistent. I'm. An overseer must

17:36

be above reproach the husband of one wife.

17:40

This, for or whatever else it means, he

17:42

clearly refutes polygamy. You can have twelve wives

17:44

and be an elder. It's meaning that you're

17:46

not the ideal man. When you have women,

17:49

you are disqualified for ministry and not just

17:51

elder ship you're disqualified for. like most ministry

17:53

in the church doesn't, you can get saved.

17:55

As a polygamous, you can still get saved.

17:58

But. you've got major issues for Like

18:00

many people do when they get saved but for sympathy 312

18:03

talks about deacons and it says let the deacons each

18:05

be the husband Of one wife now that a deacon

18:07

is the catch-all term for like everybody that's not an

18:10

elder But they're doing official ministry stuff. You

18:12

just can't do official ministry if you're a polygamist

18:15

Oh, I married these three women then I got saved. You

18:17

know what your marriage life is so out of whack You

18:20

cannot be doing ministry That's

18:23

huge. This is huge commentary on the nature of

18:25

these things The

18:27

first Corinthians 7 to also says this check it out.

18:29

Does this make sense if polygamy is okay the Bible

18:33

But because of temptation to sexual immorality each

18:35

man should have his own wife and

18:37

each woman her own Husband that

18:40

only makes sense if if she if that

18:42

guy's only got the one wife she gets

18:44

him to it's the same concept Jesus

18:47

was opposed to polygamy to when when he

18:49

talks in Matthew 9 9 He

18:52

says if you marry another If

18:54

a man divorces his wife and marries another he's committed adultery

18:56

with her That doesn't make sense

18:59

in a worldview that accepts polygamy as okay Right,

19:02

nothing 19 9 I wrote 9 and 9 in

19:04

my notes, but I know it's not And

19:07

I say to you whoever divorces his

19:09

wife except for sexual immorality and marries

19:11

another commits adultery That

19:15

is you can't like if you can marry if

19:17

you can be married and marry another and that's

19:19

okay What would be wrong with

19:21

divorcing and marrying another nothing? There'd

19:24

be nothing wrong with it. It only makes sense in

19:26

a worldview or polygamy is considered off-limits There's

19:28

other stuff I could say about this too, but we're gonna

19:30

look at the next one where Andrew Tate talks about his

19:33

PhD course Again,

19:35

there's like mild language warning here. I've bleeped out

19:38

a lot of stuff that he says but It's

19:42

the nature of I'm sorry for those who are bother I warned you This

19:45

is not for you. If this is something you're sensitive about

19:48

I'm doing this because there are People

19:50

out there especially men who need to

19:52

hear this as Christians and go Andrew

19:55

Tate is an enemy of Christianity just

19:58

because he's an enemy of feminism does not make him

20:01

my best friend or somebody I should learn from.

20:03

He's just scamming me. He's scamming everyone else. I'm

20:05

going to build my little case for that right

20:07

now. So here's his PhD

20:10

course. This is what he does. To do

20:13

his PhD test, he'll take a girl out, he'll sleep with her,

20:16

then he'll ignore her to

20:18

see if she's a weak woman so he can control

20:20

her. Check it out. On corporate paper, I call my

20:22

PhD program and that is a PhD is a Pimp

20:24

and Hose degree. That's what

20:26

I did. That was my, my M O was fine girls, make them

20:29

love me and make them work

20:41

for me. And that's how I got rich.

20:44

I knew some street pimps. I've known him for a

20:46

long time. Straight street pimps are completely.

20:48

In fact, no, it's not a complete different game. The

20:50

psychological aspect is the same of

20:52

what we're going to do. The skill

20:54

I'm going to teach you is exactly

20:56

the same. I can easily translate mine to

20:58

a street versus and you could easily speak

21:01

back with the things I'm going to teach you.

21:03

You can use it. So

21:05

the recruitment process is the same as

21:07

the PhD course. You message

21:09

them on Instagram. The PhD

21:11

course is my recruitment system. His

21:19

recruitment system, what the PhD

21:21

test is, right? He takes a woman

21:23

out. He sleeps with her. Then he

21:25

ignores her. He doesn't talk to her for a

21:28

bit of time. He sees how desperate she is

21:30

to reconnect with him after this sort of like

21:32

cold shoulder treatment. And if she's really desperate, then

21:34

she's showing that she's manipulative, manipulatable.

21:36

What is the word I'm looking for here?

21:38

She can easily be manipulated. And so then

21:40

you go, ah, I found myself a weak

21:43

woman, right? Who's attractive. Now

21:46

I can start the process of slowly working

21:48

her through to become a cam girl where

21:51

she's on the camera and I'm getting the money and,

21:54

um, or at least most of the money. And

21:57

yeah, so this is how he finds

21:59

weak women. women. Now listen to how he talks

22:01

about being like God to these women. This is,

22:03

this is, this is, okay, so in domestic violence counseling,

22:05

which I did for years, this is what

22:07

we call grooming. This is where domestically

22:10

violent and domestic violence is not just

22:12

physical violence, it's exactly the kind of

22:14

stuff Andrew Tate's doing. So

22:16

it's the type of manipulative abusive behavior that's meant

22:19

to control and get her under your thumb, so

22:21

to speak. This is the

22:23

grooming phase. This is the phase where he's

22:25

testing to find out if she can be

22:27

a good candidate for domestic

22:29

violence for this kind of control and manipulation. So

22:31

he finds that girl, look at how he talks

22:33

about what he wants to do to them. He's

22:36

not looking for a healthy relationship. This is, this

22:38

is what he wants. Again, this is offensive content.

22:41

Feel free to click off the video. I've got plenty of other stuff that

22:43

has none of this garbage in it. This

22:45

test was implemented and she passed it and years

22:47

have passed where I haven't taken her and

22:50

I've kept the position of authority and I've just

22:52

become her idol in life. It's like trying to

22:54

take God away from a Christian. They're

22:56

like, well, if God doesn't exist, they'll eventually say, what's the point in

22:58

being alive? What's the point in doing good? What's the point in doing

23:01

bad without God? That's how your woman has to

23:03

think of you. Well, about him, what's

23:05

the point in doing anything? When you get to

23:07

that point, you don't know who you want.

23:09

How could she even leave? She

23:12

didn't leave. She didn't even cry about it anymore.

23:14

So I know you're going to do what you do as long as

23:16

you only love me. Of course I'm going to love you. You're just

23:18

stupid hoes. I'm

23:21

sorry again for the content. I want to expose

23:23

him because he's so influential. As

23:26

long as you only love me, of course I only love

23:28

you. He says this is conversation with this woman. This

23:30

is the same conversation Tate has with all his women. No, you're

23:33

the special one. You're the special one. I just tell her that

23:35

to make her feel good. Like you're the special one. He's

23:37

found these weak women and now they may be

23:40

intelligent. They may be strong in some ways, but

23:42

they're certainly weakened this way. He's found them and

23:44

he's manipulated them and he's become like God to

23:46

them. Listen to how he

23:48

explains How he

23:50

pimps them online, how he takes them and turns

23:53

them into cam girls from this stage of, okay,

23:55

I did the PhD test on you. I found

23:57

out you're a weak woman. I've got the upper

23:59

hand. I knew Your control, your

24:01

manipulated. I'm I'm going to you. What's

24:04

next? This is what's next. Season.

24:07

Hhs the the subtleties all.

24:10

Oh yeah, you're always working on. you're always working.

24:12

What do you work for? me? See some more

24:14

songs that. Was. It a wants

24:16

a lot of much emphasis on Monday. that's

24:18

okay and go into that illicit. Com.

24:21

Of me Wishes talk about don't do

24:23

it under the fall of those who

24:25

was. You. Bought

24:27

a new girl glass. Dinner

24:30

to bomb just wasn't upset.

24:33

You got to the stuff. The girl

24:35

that you're from a girl or to

24:37

restore So good it easy for the

24:39

Commodores for this as a waitress inadvertently

24:41

so much money and the guys all

24:43

have been a dorm and on a

24:45

birthday present. Are you so much money

24:47

but lots of response to stay home

24:49

and those are the much he watching

24:52

these machines that three. Slot.

24:54

On both both to knows sister with

24:56

okay well I'll try for both. Girl

24:59

on camera to Deborah first day to

25:01

the new girl to sit there and

25:03

sixty of the get drunk dimmable Ivanka

25:05

Trump. Hundred

25:08

thousand per shot the guy says.

25:10

and loads of money to progress.

25:12

drunk because guys or girls school

25:14

civics. a great time decision or

25:16

whatever. The. World.

25:20

For girls another well most men with a

25:22

girl me once. I

25:25

will state with addiction. Besides.

25:27

James Bond and and. Would.

25:30

Last and people on the planet look

25:32

how beautiful woman think I have. Said.

25:35

That she tells me what I want. I

25:38

have to. sushi obese mean I

25:40

don't tip of a highly sensitive

25:43

when I come from existence. So.

25:45

I can get when I actually them,

25:47

which is not them. To.

25:49

Means to an end. Every school

25:52

bonder was exploited. That's

25:54

exactly what I do. Not

25:57

watch a bunch of my see him basically

25:59

pimp of. Comey that speaks

26:01

to my but I've been there. Done

26:04

that and it would fulfill all of know

26:06

that I suspect my book and those who

26:08

the web campuses I've met who did the

26:10

first now he or she will make me

26:13

money. I have this. One

26:15

of six runs me the money. I

26:17

am James Bond. Palm.

26:24

Does everything to hate about that on. There's.

26:27

Plenty people who still think you have managed

26:29

to economies help him. He's teaching me. But

26:31

listen disguised. Takes women he or

26:33

of of of. Week moral

26:35

character turns them into women. Have. Even.

26:38

Worse moral character manipulates control them their

26:40

partners in crime he of course is

26:42

the the one who is the head

26:44

in in in them in the worst

26:46

since and. Then. He

26:48

puts them on i you might be thinking

26:51

oh so he's games women he's games women

26:53

that's what he does his games when it's

26:55

an entertainer gives everybody everybody them the men

26:57

who look to him to the and think

26:59

oh I'm I'm going to become more of

27:01

a man, a better guy him and become

27:04

stronger and more independence he scamming you to.

27:07

Nothing. In Nothing since everybody is is

27:09

the skin, everybody's to be manipulated. He seekers

27:11

and week men the same way he seeks

27:13

a week women is he just looks for

27:15

different kinds of weaknesses and men and so

27:17

an example of this is that when he

27:19

puts these women on on on the camera

27:21

also taken a close off and on cameras

27:23

while people are donating money and stuff. He

27:27

unplugs their keyboards and then he's tripping in the comments

27:29

himself. At least he didn't initially than he hired other

27:31

people to do. If the room which I imaginary says

27:33

you do it anymore do believe him. And

27:36

abloom says he later say he makes millions

27:38

a week. That can see the he quit

27:40

his millions a week business I'd Nikita says

27:42

he didn't do any more he separate himself

27:44

from it at least on the surface level

27:46

and I think that seems that seems to

27:48

make the most sense I to allegedly this

27:50

is what I would I would say make

27:52

sense and from what I see. But.

27:56

He unplug the keyboards and then he's writing and

27:58

scamming these men and making them. The all

28:00

of these women are falling in love with them so

28:02

that don't get more money. This is. The.

28:05

Second to last clip or almost done with the second year in that

28:07

will go into much more. Enjoyable. Stuff.

28:10

And. Here Maybe this is a bit that here's what of a

28:12

moose would start to be good like I like Girls who

28:14

works me in the best is like Ukrainians that a Russia's.

28:16

Is amazing because it gets some guy fall

28:18

in love The law that arranged today to me

28:21

ah I need a visa. Okay

28:23

get these Any money for a visa? okay how much do

28:25

these us Nine hundred dollar I know that's not nine hundred

28:27

dollars to the went the embassy it's a comma our risk

28:29

and I need of a returns like there and back on

28:31

the a hotel on a that spending money my bag think

28:33

they will not become. Ah, machine eight

28:35

or ten grand books and she's. Totally

28:38

M C to because I am say bunker max they

28:40

rejected by these other said we have to wait two

28:43

weeks after to be so give it to me Okay

28:45

baby boom to more recent hits boom boom boom of

28:47

loudly the girls now spend more never two weeks to

28:49

me suis two weeks com some other problem. Eventually

28:52

the girl what was you do is say oh

28:54

I don't to M C to give a really

28:56

lame excuse to try and provoke them and to

28:58

angry. So she cites the embassy want me to

29:00

come back but I had a headache. Thousand.

29:02

One would use as a black Ipa said

29:04

your million dollars you promised you're going to

29:07

come to make him out on purpose without

29:09

annoy any man and then that's what we

29:11

needed. we need to look trigger we got.

29:13

Why are you being aggressive? I really like

29:15

you and a flight. He oversaw the world

29:17

by myself and Nairobi aggressive and I'm intimidated

29:19

and would flip on. I'm say when I

29:21

would be scary I feel sick in you

29:23

don't even care Female female month limit on

29:25

how I brought as if furious because we're

29:27

really good helping him Big Big Big Big

29:29

out into the garden. But here's. The.

29:32

Guy was pissed off right? and leafs doctor for

29:34

succumbed to. But. For these men, that's

29:36

the only chicken. the rob ya how to control the

29:39

talks to him. Maybe next week, Maybe next two weeks.

29:41

And six three weeks he's a bed at night alone.

29:43

sit in their guns. Maybe. she was

29:45

gonna come maybe i just got to mad

29:47

when she had a headache maybe maybe i

29:49

maybe i should have been a little bit

29:52

more patients as soon as the my girlfriends

29:54

and a hundred percent of the time in

29:56

less than three months they be back with

29:58

an apology Brand new pile of

30:01

money and the cycle would repeat we Killed

30:04

the game millions of dollars

30:06

a week Millions

30:10

of dollars a week This

30:12

is my point here is you need to see

30:14

the whole setup right? everybody's there to be manipulated

30:16

in a way that he looks at women as

30:19

Find the weak ones control them. He looks

30:21

at men the same way find the weak

30:24

ones control them They're all tools to build

30:26

his little empire to build his pride to

30:28

build all that kind of stuff Everybody is

30:30

a source to be scammed and there's another

30:32

scam. He's doing right now, which is to

30:34

say hey men go to my hustlers University

30:37

website thing and you can sign up and

30:39

then I'll teach you how to become as manly

30:41

as me and what's he doing? He's looking for desperate

30:43

men who will pay him money to try to learn

30:45

to be like him learn to make money in all

30:47

these different Ways and it's just another

30:49

layer of scamming in my opinion. It's just

30:51

another layer of scamming the stuff There's a

30:53

another youtuber named coffee Zilla who did a

30:55

whole report on this hustlers University says look

30:58

It's it's just low quality teaching content You

31:00

could find for free online with this sort

31:02

of empty promise that you're sort of getting

31:04

Andrew Tate But you don't even you don't

31:06

really get interaction with him for the most

31:08

part Anybody

31:10

should want that in the first place everybody

31:13

is his The

31:16

way he scammed the women is the way he's

31:18

scamming the men the way he scanned Scams the women

31:20

through the men through the women. That's

31:22

the way he's scamming everybody still every this

31:25

man is a master manipulator That's his whole

31:27

agenda. The Bible is just thrown in there

31:29

because people look up to it So it's

31:31

a useful source to increase his

31:33

clout and his sense of authority And

31:37

if you're gonna tell me but Mike He's

31:39

the only guy helping me be a man and

31:41

I'm gonna say that makes it worse that makes it worse

31:43

You're not gonna become a real man. You're gonna

31:45

become this like Soulless entity that

31:47

just looks around the world seeing how you

31:50

can use others to manipulate and Control

31:53

them so that you can get what you want from

31:55

them. You're not gonna become a real man You're gonna

31:57

you're gonna spend half your time telling yourself how great

31:59

you are And the other half, being a

32:01

horrible person. Like this is... Cam,

32:05

calm down. He's

32:08

playing all of you. He's playing all of you. He's

32:10

still texting behind a cam girl, except

32:13

now he's putting himself up as this macho man.

32:15

He's the cam girl, right? For the guys who are

32:17

interested in like becoming that kind of macho man. And then he's

32:20

telling him what he thinks they want to hear. And

32:23

others would say, but Mike, he's changed. I mean,

32:25

look again at that first clip I showed you.

32:27

This is the moral take. Look how he says

32:29

he wants to protect women. Look how he says

32:31

he wants to take care of and have no

32:33

criminal record, even though he just got arrested again,

32:35

right? For sex trafficking charges. All

32:38

these things are going on. And

32:41

he says, he says, protect women. I

32:43

just want to be a man who lives righteously

32:45

and protects women. This is a bold faced lie

32:48

that he says, because what? Because he's on Pierce

32:50

Morgan. It's a popular audience. He's going to reach

32:52

a bigger audience. He's going to tell them the

32:54

things they want to hear. He's going to tell

32:56

everybody everything. So finally they'll find a clip

32:58

that speaks to them and go, hey, he's not so bad. I

33:00

found that one clip. Read

33:03

Proverbs if you feel like you need to be a man. Read the

33:05

book of Proverbs. Take it seriously. I

33:09

didn't have a dad around growing up. And the book of Proverbs helped

33:11

fill in a lot of those gaps for me about what it means to be

33:13

a man. You need to be told not

33:15

to be lazy. Yeah, Proverbs has chapters on that.

33:17

To not be a fool, to not joke around

33:19

in ways that are dumb, that make

33:21

you less of a person in a sense. Like,

33:24

yeah, Proverbs talks about that too. It talks about being a man

33:26

of your word. It talks about not being a man who's overly

33:28

angry and who is easy to

33:30

get angered. All these things that men do need to

33:32

hear. That's

33:34

in the book of Proverbs. Go to church, get into

33:37

a small group. Go find an actual man, a real

33:39

man, not an influencer. I can't be your

33:41

model because you don't know me. Not

33:44

really, not in person. You know pieces of me that you

33:46

see online, but you don't really know the full me. You

33:48

need to see me in traffic to know me better. You

33:50

need to have conversations with me that aren't about any of

33:52

the stuff I talk about online. To

33:55

really get to find men to be a role model for you.

33:57

They need to be people you know in real life. me

34:00

my encouragement for you guys find real men get

34:02

involved in the church the church is the body

34:04

we're there to meet each other's needs right to

34:06

fill each other's gaps so go into the local

34:08

church and do some actual like

34:11

work finding some mint that you can look up to and

34:13

you can learn from they won't be perfect but you

34:15

can learn some things from them and it'll be way

34:18

better than Andrew Tate alright so I've got nine questions

34:20

we're gonna do today and here's

34:22

question number two this question

34:24

comes in from Maya cause

34:27

says oh my

34:29

cause pastor pastoral chaplain that's your YouTube

34:31

name there was Saul's hostility towards

34:33

the Jewish Christians based on his biblical beliefs or

34:35

was he really on a mission to achieve status

34:38

considering his age prior to conversion and extreme actions

34:40

I gotta read that question again to really get

34:42

my head around it but I'm gonna remind you

34:44

guys for those who are if your first time

34:46

watching my content my name is Mike winger I

34:49

was a pastor for 14 years been doing ministry

34:51

for 25 years

34:53

now approximately I have

34:56

a goal to help people learn to think biblically about everything

34:58

so I unpack scripture and try to answer

35:00

tough questions like I'm answering hard questions about

35:02

the Bible that's my agenda so

35:05

we'll do this question one more time here was

35:07

Saul's hostility towards the Jewish Christians this

35:09

is all from the New Testament Saul

35:11

Paul that guy based

35:13

on his biblical beliefs or was he

35:16

really on a mission to achieve status

35:18

considering his age prior to conversion and

35:20

extreme actions Saul

35:23

we have every reason to think that he was

35:25

sincere this isn't exactly your question but I'll start

35:28

here so we have every

35:30

reason to think that Saul was entirely sincere

35:32

and part of this is because when he

35:34

encountered Jesus he a hundred percent changed so

35:37

he really believed that Christianity was bad

35:39

that Jesus was false and that the

35:41

Christians had to be stopped he

35:43

then did measures that were that

35:45

were that were extreme he threw people in

35:47

prison he went into every house hauling families

35:49

away and trying to

35:52

basically scare people out of being Christians

35:54

and using intimidation so that

35:56

was one of the things he did

35:58

that Being said, Whether based

36:00

on his biblical beliefs, Well. Known

36:03

I have to see a wasn't based on his biblical

36:05

police could give me to oceans. Was.

36:07

A business difficult least now is biblical the least.

36:09

Like most Jesus said, if you believe Moses you

36:11

believe me. If you have really been local police

36:13

you encounter Jesus. You believe in him. If

36:16

he of and local beliefs even though you

36:18

believe the bible at least in principle I'm.

36:21

New. Account or Jesus New Reject. And

36:23

that was what was going on as saw was

36:25

a fair a seat. He was part of a

36:28

group of men who according to Jesus has added

36:30

a whole bunch on to the word of God.

36:32

They had their commentary of scripture held up. Like.

36:35

It was scripture and so Paul had

36:37

that whole group of things. the bible

36:39

plus the commentary, the traditions of man

36:41

that they kind of the commands of

36:43

God. So he felt confident

36:45

rejecting Jesus sweet energy that he changed but

36:47

now the other option with it wasn't Biblical

36:49

police. Was he really on a mission to

36:52

a T status? Considering. His

36:54

age prior to conversion and extreme actions. The

36:58

other options that he was trying to like

37:00

get status that souls agenda was to lift

37:02

himself up like get fame, get attention. I'm

37:04

the way Soul describes it. Saw Paul describes

37:07

it is that it was. It was zeal.

37:09

The. It was zeal. I'm. I'm

37:13

super can find the passage of i have built a

37:15

find it does quick. Am.

37:18

I looking like a second. Okay, so he

37:20

describes it as deal and and so pagans

37:22

his Own reason why he pursued the church

37:24

escalations. One he says, you've heard of my

37:26

former conduct in Judaism. How he

37:29

persecuted the church of God beyond measure

37:31

and try to destroy. Why? Why they

37:33

do this he says. And I advanced

37:36

in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries

37:38

in my own nation been more exceedingly

37:40

zealous for the traditions of my father's

37:42

He did advance might like he was.

37:45

Considered. Advancing in his in his

37:48

obedience to their that their judaism but

37:50

he didn't say that was his goal,

37:52

his his agenda, his motives, the source

37:54

of the reason for why did it

37:57

was he was zealous, exceedingly zealous. Are

37:59

excited, committed fully fully and

38:02

for the traditions of my

38:04

father's. For the wet.

38:06

Traditions. Of my

38:09

father's. That. Is not just

38:11

scripture? But. The traditions that were also

38:13

added to it. There are many

38:15

people today who are in the same

38:17

boat. I think they're extremely zealous. They

38:19

have tons of zeal for their their

38:22

views in some cases are certain Orthodox

38:24

views Eastern Orthodox christians. There are certain

38:26

a Roman Catholic views that they're very

38:28

zealous for and as zeal lead them

38:30

to. Interact. On line

38:33

to try to dismantle and

38:35

take apart those who aren't

38:37

sharing those extra biblical traditions.

38:40

And. I'm not saying they're doing

38:42

what saldate where he was taking people to

38:44

presented doing know, I'm just saying There's a

38:46

parallel here in that I think that I'm

38:48

a Eastern Orthodox ends Roman Catholic. Some.

38:51

Have these traditions that have come in over

38:53

the course of time. As you can see,

38:55

if you look at the history of it,

38:57

they really have a developed doctrine over time

39:00

that they consider to be core and irrefutable

39:02

and original. So they're zealous for what ultimately

39:04

is the traditions of their fathers. It

39:07

a mistake that that Paul made. I am I

39:09

think that that they would need. This is my

39:11

application. Server buses are bringing this verse need to

39:13

get back to Scripture idiot back to like hey.

39:16

What? Like in all reality, do

39:18

I really believe that all this other

39:20

stuff I'm saying is really first century.

39:23

They really believe that. That

39:26

like when Vatican One says that like everything

39:28

that were saying that Catholic church, the bleeding

39:30

but the sacraments and stuff the seven seconds

39:32

is it a unanimous views of the of

39:34

the Church Fathers and even more that was

39:36

it was taught by Jesus in the Apostle

39:38

so that was always under still like this

39:41

is demonstrably false. Claims about history.

39:43

I am get off track of our

39:45

rights but I think that idea is

39:47

deal for the traditions of his father's

39:49

he like okay evangelical christians can absolutely

39:52

make the same mistake. We can have

39:54

zeal for the traditions of our fathers

39:56

right? There are evangelical circles where say

39:58

drinking alcohol is consider. The and for. Even.

40:02

Though the bible shows it's permissible but dangerous but

40:04

you have a two sided coin. Their I Did

40:06

premise was of the you can do in moderation

40:08

and you can thank God for. But it's also

40:11

extremely dangerous. It can ruin your life. it it

40:13

in like if you're given a much wine you

40:15

can even be and leadership like it's a huge

40:17

deal. Huge huge issue. But.

40:19

It's not just simple, but there are some who

40:21

are very zealous for this so that like if

40:23

you even attend my church and use of are

40:26

going to go have ugh a glass of wine

40:28

or something that that's not allowed to get you.

40:31

That's. Where we don't realize we

40:33

have our own creations, our own

40:35

development of of doctrine as a

40:37

culture that isn't necessarily always biblical.

40:41

I find myself confronted with these things sometimes

40:43

and sometimes I was. I feel like I

40:45

used to be slower to come around ago.

40:47

I guess that was wrong. Ah I think

40:50

I've had to do a few times now

40:52

and I'm a little more ready to test

40:54

my own traditions with scripture ends and and

40:56

the number of things that that personally I've

40:59

i've shifted on i'm and not major theology

41:01

issues by like that the gospel, the doctrine

41:03

of of God or of of how are

41:06

saves a tree algiers of like op it

41:08

up but a number of these tradition things

41:10

right. Now I was really making. Too.

41:12

Big of a thing about that, and I haven't

41:15

generally me that issue online. I'll think I am

41:17

because I was a little bit older. Than.

41:19

That when I started teaching online I did

41:21

that before I got a line which should

41:24

be blessed Me You guys a like question

41:26

number three this is from a ah I

41:28

said who says is it possible. Is

41:31

it possible I lost a decks for

41:33

a Christian to become a reprobate? If

41:36

so, Can I say can still be

41:38

And I don't know why. guys seems

41:40

out of reach. Thanks. Ah, I said.

41:43

Okay, so would you say reprobate? Some

41:45

people use the term reprobate to mean.

41:49

I'm not not only to mean someone

41:51

is not saved, but to mean someone

41:53

who can not Ever be saved. By.

41:55

to take permanence of

41:57

and saved ness now

42:00

There's debate on this when you get to Hebrews chapter

42:02

six, because Hebrews six seems to

42:04

describe somebody who, it seems like to most of

42:06

us who read it, to describe someone who's a

42:08

Christian, someone who's saved, they've tasted

42:11

of the Holy Spirit, they've

42:13

partaken of the powers of the H- and

42:30

they can't be. Now

42:32

that Hebrews six I will get into one day, whether it's

42:34

in eight months or two years or whatever, I'm going to

42:36

teach through Hebrews verse by verse and I'll eventually get there.

42:39

So I'll tackle that later and I'll go through all the

42:41

options. But let's look, let's

42:44

hold that aside and go open

42:47

questions about that passage from

42:49

my perspective. Maybe you've got it figured out

42:51

and that's totally fair. I

42:53

sometimes put things on the shelf briefly while

42:55

I'm studying them and then I come back and go, okay, here

42:57

we go. But let's

42:59

look at other texts of Scripture. Do

43:02

we have any examples in Scripture of somebody who commits a

43:04

sin in the New Testament and they go,

43:07

you're out and you can never come back?

43:09

Right, like Gollum. Right,

43:12

like Smeagol said to Gollum, he says, go away and

43:14

never come back. I

43:17

can't do the voice, I want you to try. Go away and

43:20

never come back. Is that what we're

43:22

saying? Does that happen in the New Testament, in Acts?

43:24

Does that happen somewhere? Right,

43:29

not that I'm aware of. In

43:31

the Epistles, does that happen somewhere? No,

43:33

even a guy who like, he's sleeping

43:36

with his father's wife in 1 Corinthians

43:38

5, major sin.

43:40

Paul's like, kick him out of the

43:42

church. And

43:44

then he explains in 2 Corinthians, you're reading about

43:46

the reason for these types of church discipline moments

43:48

and it says, so that

43:51

he delivers such a one over to Satan, so

43:53

that his soul may be saved. That

43:55

Even a person who's in gross sin, who gets like kicked

43:57

out of the church, were still hopeful for their salvation. There's

44:00

no teaching like that. Could never happen.

44:02

You couldn't be saved. Were.

44:04

Hopeful that maybe they were never saved or maybe

44:06

the last. That's another debate elegant into because in

44:08

a fit at this moment where the person is

44:10

like. Horrible. Said you're kicked out

44:12

achievements were still hoping for your salvation.

44:16

By Paul last seemed Christ Paul the Apostle.

44:18

He blasted Christ. He denied the work of

44:20

the spirit in the church. He did all

44:22

those things he persecuted christians, still got saved.

44:26

I for one, will never.

44:29

Look. At somebody and say too late

44:31

for you don't even bother. I.

44:34

Think that that is a very very dangerous

44:36

things. On. There.

44:38

Are so many examples of people who have

44:40

who were in even horrible sin. I think

44:43

if Judas and not hung himself he might

44:45

have still been able to be redeemed. He

44:47

got up. There

44:49

so many examples of of people who are horribly

44:51

against God and then later they come to the

44:53

come To Christ. And. The I

44:56

could go on with more examples rather. book of

44:58

acts. Different people are even people who are doing

45:00

horrible things and then they're told her a pet.

45:02

They. Like going to by the power the spear from

45:04

you and in their told repent like why are these

45:07

hold this Because it is that there's a hopefulness that

45:09

they can be forgiven even for something so egregious is

45:11

that so. Always. Always Always room

45:13

for the repentance of people including

45:15

yourself. Root for the salvation of

45:17

people including yourself. And. Don't you

45:20

dare for it. Please please please don't give

45:22

into this mentality cause there's there's a certain

45:24

mentality. I said. There's

45:26

a certain modality mentality. I've seen him people

45:29

who get hopeless and they give up on

45:31

God and they stay in their sin. Any

45:35

any idea in your head that has

45:37

you saying. I'll pick sense that

45:39

if gun. Is always a

45:42

wrong idea. Always alive from the enemy is

45:44

always an attack. From. Your

45:46

flesh trying to justify continuing sending, right?

45:48

I should repent, but guy wouldn't want

45:50

me anyway. So why bother? now

45:53

i can feel little bit better less

45:55

guilty less bad about continuing in my

45:58

since these are all just complicated in

46:00

which we lie to ourselves to justify doing things we

46:02

shouldn't do. Please please

46:04

please don't do that. Read

46:07

the Old Testament where God says, all day

46:09

my hands are stretched out to an insolent

46:11

and disobedient people. All day his hands are

46:13

what? Stretched out like he's reaching for them

46:15

all day long. In

46:17

Isaiah he talks about how horrible and wicked they are

46:20

and then he's like, but come let

46:22

us reason together. Your sins are like scarlet they shall

46:24

be white as snow. The

46:26

message of Scripture is that

46:28

God is such a place of

46:30

desire in your salvation and your repentance and

46:32

willingness to receive you that to ask whether

46:34

he wants you or not is a moot

46:36

point. He wants you, turn

46:39

to him, trust in him. Throughout

46:42

Scripture Jesus on the cross being crucified

46:45

cries out what? Father forgive them. It's

46:48

too late for these ones. They're real punks. They're

46:50

real punks. You realize what they did to me? Most of the

46:52

other ones who didn't do it, but not these ones. The

46:55

centurion who's there at the cross

46:57

killing Jesus, he says,

46:59

wow, this really was the Son of God. The

47:02

implication is that salvation came to that man at that

47:04

very moment, a man who is just active in killing

47:06

Christ. The

47:09

redemption of Saul, this man is there

47:11

as a testimony that him, the worst

47:13

of sinners, the

47:15

chief of sinners he calls himself. Why? Because

47:18

he persecuted the church of God. He could be saved. All

47:20

of these things are telling me, whatever you think Hebrews 6

47:22

means, do not dare to

47:24

give up on the grace and the love and

47:26

the forgiveness that there is in God. Don't give

47:29

yourself excuses to turn from this free offer. You

47:31

turn now. Even Hebrews, what is it telling everybody who

47:33

reads it? Make sure you do not

47:36

spurn God's grace in Christ. Do not turn

47:38

from it. Do not reject it. Embrace it.

47:42

Let's go to question number four. Jay

47:44

Talos says, hey, Pastor Mike, why is

47:46

the unforgivable sin described as blaspheming the

47:49

Holy Spirit as opposed to blaspheming the

47:51

Son or the Father? That's

47:54

a good question. I guess,

47:56

and I do have a video on this, you guys. There's people who

47:58

ask questions. I've had many questions about the... Last

48:00

me, the spirit I did a video or death

48:02

a full teaching on it including the opening of

48:04

the video in the very beginning. it was short

48:06

Summary: Here's what it is. Here's what I think

48:08

it means. For all my study a league that

48:10

video down below and maybe mods you can link

48:13

my video on the blasphemy in the spirit. In.

48:15

The comments in this Nystrom comments as well to

48:17

so people can do it if they want to

48:20

bore the right now but about will ask why

48:22

is it specifically blaspheming the Holy Spirit as opposed

48:24

to the son of the phone? I'm.

48:28

So the Father has testified of

48:31

the sign that through scripture. At

48:33

least he else would Jesus in. In the

48:35

Gospel of John, he talks about how the

48:37

Father has has testified of the sun. There's

48:39

a couple ways. One of them as the

48:41

Old Testament right where is. like a few

48:43

believe most a suitably me. My father draws

48:46

those to me. and it's through the scripture

48:48

that the Jews had. that guy was testifying

48:50

of the sun. It's also through the Baptism

48:52

of Jesus. I'm impressed with miracles as well.

48:56

The Sun testifies because he does their

48:58

preaching. He's telling people like. And.

49:00

Here I am he's asked i am is

49:02

an interim in the school. The Prophet is

49:05

written of me you know and and he

49:07

reads I There is like a that's Me

49:09

So Jesus is verbally telling people who he

49:11

is. sophie blast themed by the since of

49:13

rejecting the work of this the father, the

49:15

son. right? I'll be like you ignore

49:17

the Old Testament are you ignored Jesus. That

49:19

would definitely be. If you kept

49:21

doing that forever you you are doing your son. Who's

49:24

boss me? blaspheming the spirit? Different in

49:27

those two things. the Holy spirit testified

49:29

in to specific ways in the New

49:31

Testament. One is extra lemons internal. At.

49:34

One is extra through the miracles. Jesus doing

49:37

these miraculous works right in front of them

49:39

was massive proof of who he was and

49:41

to deny those works in in the case

49:43

of the Fair seat. In that passage saying

49:46

that Jesus when he was doing was really

49:48

been done by the power of Satan. to

49:51

see these miracles that are clearly and fulfillment

49:53

of or doesn't prophecy it's this like sort

49:55

of final stamp of approval this is what

49:57

does the work of the spirits what hi

50:00

together the Old Testament prophecies, the

50:02

New Testament claims of Jesus, it's

50:05

the miracles themselves where

50:07

it's like, hey, who else has done these works?

50:09

He's literally fulfilling what God has said. You're

50:12

ignoring the final proof, the final proof, and that's

50:14

the final nail in your coffin, so to speak.

50:17

But also, the Holy Spirit testifies another way, not just

50:19

miracles. So it's a different level of evidentiary

50:22

proof. But also, internally,

50:24

the Holy Spirit is bringing conviction of sin,

50:26

bringing awareness of the truth of the gospel

50:28

to people. So you're ignoring that

50:30

as well. I think there's other stuff too, but

50:33

if I said the Father, it would imply Old

50:35

Testament. If I said the Son, it would imply

50:37

the teachings of Jesus and His claims on their

50:39

own. But remember, He says in

50:41

John, I don't bear witness of myself, meaning

50:44

not alone, but there's others. There's

50:46

more than just me bearing witness of me. And

50:49

so you take everything on the testimony of

50:51

two or three witnesses, so it would be

50:53

too small of a claim. But

50:56

to lay it on the Holy Spirit, you're tying all that

50:58

together as the final message. I hope that makes sense. That's

51:01

my opinion, okay? You guys are welcome to think this

51:03

through. I'm not claiming that that's the opinion every Christian

51:05

must hold on this view. I

51:08

think that's what I'm getting as I look through

51:10

John, as I look through the work of the

51:12

Spirit in John, the way the

51:14

Father's witnesses talked about in John. In

51:17

John in particular, because that's where I feel like a lot of this

51:19

stuff is fleshed out, even though

51:21

that's not necessarily where we're getting the blasphemy of the Spirit

51:25

passage. So yeah. I'll

51:27

put the video down below, some things for you to think about. All

51:29

right. I've got all my questions for

51:32

today. Here's question number five. Aisha

51:35

Kara says, or Kara says,

51:37

hi, Pastor Mike. Hi Aisha.

51:40

And I don't think I'm technically a pastor anymore. I don't

51:42

mind you calling me one. I just don't want people to

51:44

think I'm claiming that. Has

51:46

Zechariah 9, 1 through 8 already been fulfilled?

51:50

If not, is it possible that it is in

51:52

the process of being fulfilled today? Has

51:54

Zechariah 9 already been fulfilled?

51:56

If not, okay. So I'll read through the

51:59

passage and I might take. take a pass depending on how

52:01

fresh this is going to be in my mind. I

52:03

don't want to mishandle scripture, I'd rather just skip answering

52:06

something. But let's read through it because there's always benefit

52:08

in that. The

52:10

burden of the word of the Lord against

52:12

the land of Hadrak and Damascus its resting

52:14

place for the eyes of men and all

52:16

the tribes of Israel are on the Lord.

52:20

Verse 2, also against Hamath

52:22

which borders on it and against Tyre

52:24

and Sidon though they are very wise.

52:26

For Tyre built herself a tower, heaped

52:29

up silver like the dust and gold like the

52:31

mire of the streets. Behold the

52:33

Lord will cast her out, he will destroy her power

52:35

in the sea and she will be devoured by

52:37

fire. Ashkelon shall see it

52:39

and fear Gaza shall also be very

52:42

sorrowful and echron for he dried up

52:44

her expectation. The king shall perish from

52:46

Gaza and Ashkelon shall not be inhabited.

52:50

A mixed race shall settle in Ashdod and

52:52

I will cut off the pride of the

52:54

Philistines. I will take away the

52:56

blood from his mouth and the abominations from between

52:58

his teeth. So these are speaking

53:01

of, it sounds weird to you guys but these

53:03

are speaking of specific things they're doing that the

53:05

original readers would have known about. They would have

53:07

understood these issues, these cities, their dynamics, what was

53:09

going on between them. But

53:12

he who remains, even he shall be for

53:14

our God and shall be like a leader

53:16

in Judah and echron shall, echron like a

53:18

Jebusite. I will camp

53:20

around my house because of the army because of

53:22

him who passes by and him who returns. No

53:24

more shallon or person or pass through them for

53:26

now I have seen with my eyes. It's

53:29

been a while since I've looked through Zachariah to be

53:31

honest and straight with you about it. The

53:34

language about Tyre and Sidon reminds me

53:36

of the Ezekiel passage and

53:40

I think it's probably referring to the

53:42

destruction of Tyre which happened way

53:44

in the past. Alexander the Great, right? He

53:46

goes into Tyre and he

53:48

seizes the city, he destroys the city

53:51

and he actually literally scrapes

53:53

the city and pushes it into the ocean

53:55

as a way of shocking all of the

53:57

nations around. After Alexander the Great did

53:59

this It's so scared

54:01

everybody else in like the 300s BC

54:03

is scared everybody else so much that

54:06

they said Great

54:08

is Alexander. We yield, you know, like we're not

54:10

gonna fight you. We're gonna welcome you in like

54:12

with a parade So Alexander

54:15

the Great made an example of Tyre When

54:17

it says here the Lord will cast her out. He

54:19

will destroy her power in the sea and she'll be

54:22

devoured by fire Tyre was

54:24

also a Phoenician Ocean

54:26

power like they had military might in the

54:28

ocean they controlled trade that sort of thing

54:30

as well and they were like a Trade

54:33

point like if you I'll try to do this reverse

54:35

for you guys. So Is

54:38

it right? I think it's reverse. Yeah. So if you're looking at

54:40

a map and here's the Mediterranean Sea here's here's Israel You

54:42

know right around here is Tyre Right

54:45

and then Tyre was like an entry

54:47

point for all these all these ocean going vessels to

54:49

come from like North Africa Or

54:51

other places like in Europe and then they would

54:53

come in and they would go inland from there into Like

54:56

Syria and the different countries over there So he's

54:58

destroying her power in the sea I hurt her

55:00

ocean power and she will be devoured by fire

55:04

One of the times that the biggest time that

55:06

happened was Alexander the Great this makes me think

55:08

that Zechariah 9 Again, sorry.

55:10

I don't remember enough off the top of my

55:12

head He's probably referring

55:14

to that that event Also,

55:17

Ashkelon shall see it in fear that

55:20

others would look upon it and then they would respond

55:22

with specific fear that did happen With Alexander as well,

55:25

but I say all that with a grain of salt just

55:27

because it's not fresh on my mind I

55:31

wish I wish I did think Clearly

55:34

enough to know everything about every passage description, but I

55:36

hope that gives you some help Often

55:39

a simple study Bible will help you navigate

55:41

that kind of stuff. It's just a

55:43

simple study I will have footnotes. They'll kind of guide you

55:45

through those things which are very helpful, especially in Deeply

55:48

historical content contents in Scripture when

55:50

you read like Daniel 11 the

55:52

most historical packed Survey,

55:55

it's prophetic, but it's a prophetic survey of

55:57

what will happen and you know, it has

55:59

happened But it's very

56:01

complicated and you just won't get it without some

56:03

help to be honest because You're

56:06

not from that time anyway

56:09

Question number six Benji

56:11

Ahuja says is it right to call Jesus

56:13

king since he has not yet set up

56:15

his millennial kingdom on earth Revelation

56:17

20 verses 4 through 6 Interesting

56:19

question. Let's check this out Revelation 20

56:23

Verses 4 through 6. We'll consider this part first

56:30

Verse 4 and then I saw thrones and seated

56:32

on them were with those to whom the authority

56:34

to judge was committed and I Saw

56:36

the souls of those who have been beheaded for

56:38

the testimony of Jesus and for the Word of

56:40

God This is the revelation here is

56:43

speaking about the future. This is a future time

56:45

in my view has not yet happened We're talking

56:47

about the reign of Christ that's gonna come And

56:50

those who had not worshipped the beast or its image

56:52

and had not received its mark on their foreheads of

56:54

their hands They came to life and

56:56

reigned with Christ for a thousand years The

56:59

rest of the dead did not come to life

57:01

until the thousand years were ended This is the

57:03

first resurrection blessed and holy is the one who

57:05

shares in the first resurrection over such the second

57:07

death has no power But they will be priests

57:09

of God and of Christ and they will reign

57:11

with him for a thousand years Is

57:14

Jesus reigning now or not? That's the big

57:17

question There's a

57:19

future time where Jesus reigns Does

57:21

that mean he's not reigning now? Psalm

57:24

110 is the most commonly quoted Psalm in

57:27

the New Testament It's

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the verse the scripture of the

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Old Testament that occurs more times in the New

57:33

Testament than any other Really amazing song

57:35

look at what it says the Lord said to my Lord sit

57:37

at my right hand Until I make

57:39

your enemies your footstool This

57:42

is the verse right here the Lord

57:44

said to my Lord because Jesus is God,

57:46

right? Jesus himself used that argument He's like

57:48

if David calls him Lord right here my Lord

57:51

How Was he

57:53

his son or you might say how is

57:55

he just his son? At any rate the deity

57:57

of Christ is hinted at in this verse, but sit

57:59

at my right hand This is what Jesus does after

58:01

his resurrection according to the New Testament Until

58:04

I make your enemies your footstool implying that

58:06

there's some future time where you're gonna be

58:08

reigning But sitting at my right hand isn't that

58:10

a position of rulership and reigning any

58:13

answer is yes, it's both There

58:16

they this gets into debates

58:18

between pre-millennial

58:21

and post-millennial as well, but

58:25

Where the language of is Jesus ruling right now

58:28

and they want you to say yes or no And

58:30

I want to say yes, but okay, so the postmill says

58:32

yes or no if Jesus is reigning then we're in the

58:34

we're in His kingdom right now. He's reigning right now. He's

58:36

the king of the world right now and The

58:40

alternative they would think is you say no then Jesus is

58:42

not reigning and you're denying scripture that says Jesus is king

58:45

My answer is no it's yes and okay

58:48

Jesus is reigning and He

58:51

will be reigning in a greater way in the future

58:53

when his enemies are made his footstool like Psalm 110

58:55

says How is Jesus

58:57

reigning he's reigning his

58:59

kingdom persists of being in the hearts

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of those who call him king See

59:04

this is where this is where you get into the nitty-gritty

59:07

and people are gonna think I'm playing games I'm not dude

59:09

if you if I'm playing games Jesus is playing games first

59:11

because he says things like my kingdoms not of this world

59:14

Right, then he also says the kingdom of

59:16

God has arrived then

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he says that

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that You're gonna enter into the

59:23

kingdom when you believe in him, but then he goes on he

59:25

says to to Saul to

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solve to Pilate that That

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if his kingdom was of this world his servants would fight

59:36

That then we read in the

59:38

New Testament that Satan is the God of this age And

59:41

he and he's the one who's ruling over the kingdom

59:43

of men. So it's got to be

59:45

yes, and it's got to be both It's gotta be yes Jesus is

59:48

king, but What

59:50

does that mean now and what does that

59:52

mean later? Jesus is king in that in

59:54

this world that Satan is the God of the world

59:56

not a real God But he's the God of the

59:58

world In this world

1:00:00

where he's got control, Jesus pulls people out

1:00:02

of that control and he makes them lights

1:00:04

in the world. In

1:00:07

them consists his kingdom. It's not a

1:00:09

political kingdom. It's not an army kingdom.

1:00:11

It's a kingdom of people who live

1:00:13

for the coming king. This

1:00:16

kingdom exists in the hearts of men. When you

1:00:18

look at Jesus' language about kings or

1:00:20

kingdoms and the kingdom of God and the kingdom

1:00:22

of heaven, I think you

1:00:24

have to determine that it refers to the

1:00:27

internal relationship you have where you call Jesus

1:00:29

king. Then

1:00:31

when Jesus comes back and he makes his

1:00:33

enemies his footstool and he takes

1:00:35

over all things and he's reigning, we will

1:00:37

reign with him now in that more active

1:00:39

sense in that coming kingdom. So

1:00:41

Jesus is a king. He's

1:00:44

also the coming king. You might think of it like

1:00:46

the old stories about King Richard. We

1:00:48

get this like in ... You watch like these old, I

1:00:50

don't know, Disney movie or something. I probably wasn't Disney

1:00:52

with somebody else, but of like

1:00:54

King Arthur. You

1:00:57

get these movies where King Arthur's on a quest. He

1:00:59

went off, probably do the Crusades. I'm not trying to

1:01:01

comment on all that here, but just get my analogy.

1:01:03

It's pretty narrow. King Arthur's off

1:01:05

and then there's like little John or whatever. Oh yeah,

1:01:08

it's Robin's his own thing. Little John,

1:01:10

he's abusing his authority and they're waiting on the king

1:01:12

to come back. There are people who

1:01:14

while they're under the authority of little John,

1:01:16

they're still loyal to the king waiting for

1:01:18

him to come back, trying to serve him

1:01:20

the best they can. Then when he comes

1:01:22

back, they're rejoicing. We're in that moment. The

1:01:25

king is going to come back and when he

1:01:27

does, he'll reward those who have faithfully served

1:01:29

him and saw that his authority was the

1:01:31

real authority. We yielded in this

1:01:33

world to certain things while we

1:01:35

waited on that. I

1:01:37

hope that helps. I like that analogy. I use

1:01:39

pretty good analogy. Question

1:01:42

number seven. Parent warning again.

1:01:44

Question ... Oh, that's number

1:01:46

eight. Parent warning for number

1:01:48

eight. But number seven, miss the beard king.

1:01:50

How's the question? Hey, Mike. I've got

1:01:52

a pagan friend. He believes

1:01:54

that all the different gods exist,

1:01:56

including the Abrahamic God and that

1:01:58

the Norse pantheon is most worthy

1:02:01

of worship. Any advice on reaching him? That's

1:02:05

tough. I haven't interacted with pagans too much, like

1:02:08

real pagans. Pagans like that. I have interacted some

1:02:11

and I remember an interaction I had. It's

1:02:13

on video somewhere on the internet. It's not on my channel.

1:02:16

It got recorded somewhere. I honestly don't remember. It was

1:02:18

many years ago but

1:02:20

I looked into the gods that they believe in

1:02:22

and I

1:02:25

tried an angle that ended up not... it kind of

1:02:27

bothered him but it didn't really work in the sense

1:02:29

of showing them that they had a problem. And

1:02:33

I was showing them that their views that they

1:02:35

ascribed to their God and I

1:02:37

don't remember the God now. It was years ago

1:02:39

but I looked into the actual original text like

1:02:41

I went in a red source material on that

1:02:43

God and what the ancient people believed about that

1:02:45

false God and I quoted it back

1:02:47

to them to show them that the views that they were

1:02:49

espousing, we have great principles and beliefs

1:02:52

and da da da. I go those aren't the

1:02:54

beliefs from your actual God. Those are new beliefs.

1:02:56

You probably got those from Christianity when your religion

1:02:58

started imitating Christianity and

1:03:00

their response was interesting. They simply said, well

1:03:03

we don't have sacred text like you do

1:03:05

and I thought well that's funny. They thought I was

1:03:07

challenging them to say they're not being the equivalent of

1:03:09

biblical. No, I wasn't challenging

1:03:12

on that. I'm saying your fake

1:03:14

God isn't even the source of your beliefs. It's

1:03:17

not. It's probably Christianity. That's the source of your

1:03:19

beliefs. You're assigning to this false God which is

1:03:21

kind of what paganism does in all cases. They

1:03:23

assign things that belong to God to others but

1:03:27

it wasn't super effective and I wish we had been able

1:03:29

to talk more about it or something that

1:03:32

they didn't really understand. The point was that

1:03:35

the things they were lauding themselves for in their

1:03:37

religious beliefs weren't even from where they thought

1:03:39

they were from but what

1:03:42

would you do? What would you do for a pagan? Like just

1:03:44

let me brainstorm with you for a second. I guess

1:03:48

what I always want to do with everybody is find

1:03:50

out what parts of their beliefs are truly valuable. What

1:03:53

are the things that they care about they're not going

1:03:55

to ditch? They're not just going to toss away or

1:03:57

reinterpret all of a sudden. Then

1:04:00

I want to talk about those issues. So

1:04:04

that would require some questions. You just start

1:04:06

asking questions like, what do you believe about this and

1:04:08

why do you think that and what's the most important

1:04:10

part of your belief to you about these gods? You

1:04:14

start to poke and you start to prod. And

1:04:17

that just gives you the data. Now you understand what matters. Other

1:04:20

angles you could take that are maybe biblical. When

1:04:23

Paul in the book of Acts is interacting with pagans, you've

1:04:26

got to think of this as very similar to what you're

1:04:28

interacting with because pagans back then would have acknowledged the God

1:04:30

of Israel was real. They just wouldn't have acknowledged what the

1:04:32

Bible says about him is true because that would make him

1:04:34

the only god. So

1:04:36

when Paul's interacting with pagans, he goes to Athens and he's

1:04:38

like, hey, I'm going to tell you about the gods. You

1:04:40

don't know. You know, God made us, you know, we, in

1:04:43

fact, look at the logic of Paul's argument that's there and

1:04:45

see if you can borrow some of that and use that

1:04:47

in your logic of reasoning with others. What

1:04:50

this then can come to about

1:04:52

how like we shouldn't suppose that those, you

1:04:55

know, somebody with hands made

1:04:58

those with hands. That doesn't make sense. It doesn't

1:05:00

really logically terminate at those. So

1:05:03

that what you're getting at, there's a subtle way of

1:05:05

saying that the arguments for the existence of God don't

1:05:08

apply to pagan gods because they're fundamentally a different kind

1:05:10

of being. The the the

1:05:12

statement will be ontologically. That

1:05:14

is the nature of existence that they have is

1:05:16

so different from God. They're not just here's God.

1:05:18

Here's a pagan God. No, it's more

1:05:21

like here's an eternal omniscient being

1:05:24

immeasurable, which

1:05:27

is self-existent. Look up divine

1:05:29

aseity, right? That's an amazing

1:05:31

idea in Christianity. And

1:05:34

then you have like a finite, simply

1:05:37

powerful being, which

1:05:39

is there's an infinite metaphysical

1:05:41

difference between these two different things. So

1:05:46

when you then trace back arguments like the

1:05:48

uncaused cause or the first mover or something

1:05:50

like that, or the argument

1:05:52

from design, or you look at like, say,

1:05:54

the cosmological argument, the

1:05:56

Kalam cosmological argument, none of those would

1:05:58

apply to these. The to store. Or.

1:06:01

Zeus or Misra or something like that. None

1:06:03

of them would apply to them. cause know

1:06:05

those beings have the tracer the qualities that

1:06:08

could be an explanation for the things we're

1:06:10

talking about. So philosophical arguments for God's they

1:06:12

don't give you. Pagan. Guys they give

1:06:14

you. An A God like the God

1:06:16

of the Bible, The sort of eternal got. Another

1:06:18

way to push back and other third angle you could

1:06:20

take night. So what does your digging to find out

1:06:23

what they really believe in? What a valuable to them

1:06:25

to that gives you what you you'll know it's not

1:06:27

about Next, the next thing is you're you're giving evidence

1:06:29

for God and Dip demonstrating that that's not the same

1:06:31

as Evans for they're gonna they're gonna think oh yeah

1:06:33

that was my God tooth but not if you walk

1:06:35

him through it. That doesn't prove your got in fact

1:06:37

mister like gotta constantly. The

1:06:40

next thing you to do is ask them for evidence for

1:06:42

their beliefs and this is when all of a sudden he

1:06:44

the covers come off as you go. Wait a minute. So.

1:06:47

I I've got. Say. Evidence

1:06:49

for got I got say scripture that

1:06:52

has prophetic proofs and it's historical evidence

1:06:54

to support it. What? Evidence

1:06:56

do you have? And.

1:06:58

They go. Well.

1:07:01

You know? and he finds that they

1:07:04

don't have any evidence. The Christian Apologetics

1:07:06

is the only apologetics that has anything

1:07:08

going for it. A other religious

1:07:10

groups when they try to present a case

1:07:12

for for their release it pales in comparison

1:07:15

and that's good to like. Draw that out

1:07:17

to bring the your and always always ask

1:07:19

you this with Premier Best. Evidence.

1:07:22

So when you bring them avenue to bring him

1:07:24

a good a really good example, fulfill prophecy in

1:07:26

a really good one in you ask them bring

1:07:28

the your best evidence, then you're gonna go research

1:07:30

in a little you know come back and talk

1:07:33

to them but another angle you can take that

1:07:35

all intellectual stuff. and other angle

1:07:37

you could take his hey. Since. You believe that

1:07:39

My God is real? But. You can be

1:07:41

trusted. One. It wasn't

1:07:43

we read the bible. In my opinion about the good

1:07:45

that you don't know. And

1:07:48

you can just sort of organically really silly try to reach

1:07:50

in that way. these are bunch of and ideas I pray

1:07:52

I guess you wisdom. Anna.

1:07:55

Yeah I be it's did hear the

1:07:57

pharmacists right now. okay this is apparent

1:07:59

morning. Parent warning on this question. You know

1:08:01

that mean that means that that I'm Sarah who

1:08:03

put the question for to have already? It's. She.

1:08:06

Got your peers snow before even read the question

1:08:08

that did you want to skip it for your

1:08:11

tits of it. Is

1:08:13

it a sin to have marital

1:08:15

relations during a minstrel cycle? In

1:08:18

Leviticus eighteen nineteen. Twenty. Four

1:08:20

And Twenty Five or system for it's

1:08:22

either it indicates that this is an

1:08:24

abomination, But Leviticus Fifteen Twenty Four put

1:08:26

in the category of ritual unclean. This?

1:08:28

Okay, let me let me share with

1:08:30

you guys why this is actually a

1:08:32

legitimate question that people can struggle with.

1:08:35

So this Leviticus passes live. In Leviticus

1:08:37

eighteen is is one of those passages

1:08:39

that shows that homosexual relations are sinful.

1:08:43

But. When you track through it people go what?

1:08:45

But that's just ritual. He was a problem. Some

1:08:47

people says it was just ritual. It was. It

1:08:49

was just for Israel. May be a when setting

1:08:51

a got put on the world that was just

1:08:54

for Israel. It's hard to hold that. When

1:08:56

you read the whole the whole section. I'm

1:08:59

which I'm an eerie right now. So me what? Here's

1:09:01

a quick primer on this passage and you'll see why

1:09:03

the minstrel. Relations

1:09:06

during this recycled is is it

1:09:08

legitimate question? Okay,

1:09:11

and the Lord spoke to Moses thing. Speak to the people

1:09:13

of Israel and say to them I am the Lord Your

1:09:15

God You shall not do. As they

1:09:17

do in the land of Egypt, where you lived

1:09:19

and you shall I do is they do in

1:09:21

the Land of Canaan to which I'm Bree Newsome

1:09:23

that walk in their suits, you should follow my

1:09:25

rules and he massachusetts and walk and them. I

1:09:27

am the Lord your God. You so therefore keep

1:09:29

my statute in my rules. If a person does

1:09:31

not does them, he shall live by them. I

1:09:33

am the lord. None of you sell approach. Any.

1:09:36

One of his close relatives to uncover nakedness.

1:09:38

I am the Lord. Okay, so no kind

1:09:40

of like. Inappropriate. Sexual

1:09:42

things with a close relative. Next.

1:09:46

Rock you Summer uncover the nakedness of your

1:09:48

father. which is the nakedness of your

1:09:50

mother she is your mother you summer uncover

1:09:52

her nakedness okay so fathers and mothers off

1:09:54

limits because because incest was a common thing

1:09:56

before during the summer uncover the nakedness efficiently

1:09:58

father's wife, it is your father's nakedness. That's

1:10:01

right, even if he's married and someone is

1:10:03

not your mother, that still can't

1:10:05

do it. You shall not uncover the

1:10:07

nakedness of your sister, your father's daughter or your

1:10:09

mother's daughter. It could be half sister,

1:10:11

it doesn't matter. Whether brought up in the family or in

1:10:13

another home. It's the genetic relation that matters, not just the

1:10:15

home. You

1:10:17

shall not uncover the nakedness of your son's daughter

1:10:20

or if your daughter's daughter for their nakedness is

1:10:22

your own nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness

1:10:24

of your father's wife brought up in your father's

1:10:26

family since she is your sister. You shall not

1:10:28

uncover the nakedness of your father's sister, she is

1:10:30

your father's relative. You shall not uncover the nakedness

1:10:33

of your mother's sister for she is your mother's

1:10:35

relative. You shall not uncover the nakedness, which means

1:10:37

ultimately in this case, relations with

1:10:40

of your father's brother. That is, you shall not

1:10:42

approach his wife, she is your aunt. You

1:10:44

shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law. It

1:10:48

shows that the property of the culture that these things had to

1:10:50

be said, but it's the

1:10:53

spread of Christianity that has made this stuff so

1:10:55

off limits. In our

1:10:57

culture, modern culture today, you naturally go,

1:10:59

of course I wouldn't do that, but you say

1:11:01

that partly because of the influence of Christianity on

1:11:04

culture, which we need to preserve. You

1:11:06

shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law. She is

1:11:08

your son's wife. You shall not uncover her nakedness. You

1:11:11

shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother's wife. It

1:11:13

is your brother's nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness

1:11:16

of a woman and her daughter and you shall not

1:11:18

take her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter to uncover

1:11:20

their nakedness, their relatives. It's depravity. You

1:11:23

shall not take a woman as a rival

1:11:25

wife to her sister uncovering her nakedness while

1:11:27

her sister is still alive. All

1:11:29

these things you just can't do. Are

1:11:32

those ritual? Well, I mean, that's not ritual. This

1:11:35

is just like stuff you just can't do, period. This

1:11:37

isn't about temple stuff. This is just, don't do it.

1:11:39

You shall not approach a woman to uncover her

1:11:41

nakedness while she's in her menstrual uncleanness. There

1:11:46

it is. How

1:11:49

do I say that one's ritual when the

1:11:51

ones above it are clearly not? They're

1:11:54

clearly just, just

1:11:57

sinful and depraved. Then

1:12:03

we're, you might say, well, the word uncleanness is

1:12:05

there. So it's implying that it's simply an issue

1:12:08

of cleanliness. But if we say that,

1:12:10

look at verse 20, and you shall not lie sexually

1:12:12

with your neighbor's wife, so make yourself unclean with her.

1:12:15

Oh, well then, cheating with your

1:12:17

neighbor's wife is just a matter of cleanliness too. Okay,

1:12:19

so unclean doesn't necessarily mean

1:12:21

only ceremonial unclean. All

1:12:25

right, well, we could keep reading. It gets, it gets even stronger

1:12:27

things. It ramps up to like

1:12:29

stronger and stronger stuff as it goes in Leviticus 18.

1:12:32

You shall not give any of your

1:12:34

children to offer them to Molech, to

1:12:36

profane the name of the Lord your

1:12:39

God. That's where they would burn their

1:12:41

kids with ceremonial postnatal abortion. And

1:12:43

so profane the name of your God, I am

1:12:45

the Lord. You shall not lie with

1:12:47

a male as with a woman, it is an abomination. I

1:12:50

mean, that's not ceremonial. This is where the progate

1:12:52

theologians are like, oh, that's just ceremonial. Well,

1:12:54

if we'll read on, we'll see why it's not. Oh

1:12:57

my God is definitely not just making ceremonial statements in

1:12:59

this passage. You shall not lie with

1:13:01

any animal and so make yourself unclean with it. Neither

1:13:03

shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie

1:13:05

with it. It is perversion. That's not

1:13:07

ceremonial, dude. That's bestiality. Do not make

1:13:09

yourselves unclean by any of these things.

1:13:11

And then here is a key part

1:13:14

for by all these, the nations I

1:13:16

am driving out before you have become

1:13:18

unclean and the land became unclean so

1:13:20

that I punished its iniquity and

1:13:22

the land vomited out its inhabitants. By

1:13:25

all of these things, and he seems to mean everything in

1:13:27

Leviticus 18, the un-Jewish, people

1:13:33

who did not have the law of Moses, I

1:13:35

judge them for that. The

1:13:37

implication seems to be that as a

1:13:39

large category, everything in Leviticus 18 is

1:13:41

stuff God judges

1:13:43

people for, even if it has nothing to do

1:13:45

with the law of Moses. That

1:13:49

is the implication from what I read.

1:13:51

So I read that and I go, I legitimately

1:13:54

am not sure how

1:13:57

to take the verse, the one verse, verse was

1:13:59

it 19? and

1:14:04

pull that out and

1:14:07

just say ah we're not

1:14:09

gonna we're not gonna do that now there are some

1:14:11

legitimate debates I've heard about

1:14:13

verse 19 about

1:14:15

what is what is approaching while

1:14:17

she's in her menstrual uncleanness what

1:14:19

does that mean specifically and

1:14:22

it may be more of a narrow meaning than what it

1:14:24

appears to be and I haven't vetted all that so I

1:14:26

don't know okay but what I'm saying is whatever verse 19

1:14:28

is talking about it seems like it's the kind of thing

1:14:30

that no one's allowed to do at all period I

1:14:34

don't like that like I want

1:14:36

to say no I think

1:14:38

that's okay and

1:14:41

it's just ceremonial because and here's

1:14:43

the reason it's not just because of my modern

1:14:45

impulses it's also because issues

1:14:48

of blood issues of cleanliness that kind

1:14:50

of category of uncleanness does feel very

1:14:52

different in scripture from the uncleanness of

1:14:54

sleeping with another man's wife these feel

1:14:56

like different kinds of things and

1:15:00

for instance a man who's

1:15:03

bald and and and

1:15:05

has like spots on his head he

1:15:09

could be unclean because

1:15:11

of ceremonial purposes but the scripture will

1:15:13

specifically say he's not he's not in

1:15:15

sin effectively he's just bald he's

1:15:19

okay he's just bald and so

1:15:21

there can be these like ceremonial things that don't

1:15:23

reflect in a sinful way on a person that

1:15:25

have to do with maybe symbolism and that kind

1:15:27

of thing but again how could God judge them

1:15:29

for those things the unbelieving nations is

1:15:31

it one that just sits in there that he

1:15:33

wasn't really judging them for but it just related

1:15:35

to it doesn't mean is minstrel uncleanness

1:15:37

means something different than what I'm thinking of and I just

1:15:39

haven't figured that out and haven't vetted that myself yet possibly

1:15:43

but your other verse he wrote in was Leviticus 15 24 and if any man

1:15:47

lies with her and her minstrel impurity comes

1:15:49

upon him he shall be unclean seven days

1:15:51

and every bed on which he lies shall

1:15:54

be unclean so

1:15:58

this is this seems to be an

1:16:01

accidental situation, but there's no punishment, right?

1:16:03

There's just uncleanness. Oh, you're unclean, you're

1:16:06

ceremonial unclean. This would preserve them from

1:16:08

spreading disease and things like that, this

1:16:10

kind of ceremonial rules. And

1:16:13

it would preserve God's point about ritual

1:16:15

purity implying the kind of moral purity

1:16:17

that God requires of us and that

1:16:19

Jesus fulfills. Okay, so yeah, create separation

1:16:22

with them and God on purpose to show that sin has

1:16:25

separated us from God. This

1:16:27

looks very much like just ritual

1:16:29

uncleanness, that we're the unclean

1:16:31

for seven days. Okay,

1:16:34

because of this issue of blood. How

1:16:40

do you deal with these things? I mean, you could say verse

1:16:42

20. I don't know for sure my answer on this. I've

1:16:45

wrestled with this before and I still am not

1:16:47

sure. And so

1:16:49

I don't put it on anybody. I just go, I don't know. I

1:16:52

can't fully justify my impulse to say that

1:16:54

it's just ritual, but I

1:16:56

also am open still because I

1:16:59

haven't fully vetted like the meaning of

1:17:01

minstrel in Leviticus in that

1:17:03

text and heard other opinions about it.

1:17:05

So I'm kind of like a little bit on the fence, but

1:17:10

the verse 24 part Leviticus 1524 seems to be implying, see

1:17:13

what you guys think about this, seems to be implying

1:17:15

an accidental thing. A guy does this and

1:17:18

her minstrel impurity comes upon him. This

1:17:20

could be something that wasn't intentional. Oh,

1:17:23

guess what? Now it's happened. Okay,

1:17:26

you're unclean for seven days, but there's

1:17:28

also a statement of you can't deliberately

1:17:30

do it during that time. That

1:17:35

seems to be the case. I'll admit that to

1:17:37

modern sensibilities, this feels kind of archaic, like why?

1:17:39

What's the problem with that? And

1:17:43

that may be because

1:17:45

modern sensibilities were missing something or maybe

1:17:47

because scripture's just telling

1:17:49

us something true that we're ignoring.

1:17:53

Or maybe that I just haven't fully understood Leviticus 18 verse. What

1:17:56

I can't do is dismiss verse 24 of

1:17:58

Leviticus 18, which seems to indicate. God

1:18:00

judges pagans for these things too. So I

1:18:04

want to look more into verse 19. I

1:18:06

think it was. I understand it better. But

1:18:09

at least I can unpack for you guys. This is why

1:18:11

this is a legitimate question. Those who

1:18:13

off the cuff go, there's nothing wrong with that and just

1:18:15

walk away, you can do that. I

1:18:17

can't treat scripture that way. I

1:18:19

need to chase it down more. And

1:18:24

I should do more work on that myself. Okay,

1:18:26

let's look at question number nine.

1:18:29

No parent warning on this one. Okay, Eric

1:18:31

says, thanks Mike for what you're doing. I'm curious and

1:18:33

you're very welcome, Eric. I'm very, very grateful to get

1:18:36

to do this. I'm curious about how

1:18:38

to handle 2 Samuel 21. This

1:18:40

sounds very close to a form of human sacrifice

1:18:42

to honor God. Second

1:18:44

Samuel 21. This

1:18:49

one comes up a lot, this passage. So

1:18:52

let's read through 2 Samuel 21.

1:18:55

I'm going to read a significant portion of scripture here. And

1:18:57

then we're going to ask just the one question. There's a

1:18:59

lot of questions you can ask about this passage and I

1:19:01

have other videos on it and I'll link some in the

1:19:04

description below after the stream. Other videos

1:19:06

where I talk about this

1:19:08

section, if I'm remembering right, this, this, I have some other

1:19:10

content. If I do, I'll link them down below. But

1:19:13

we'll ask the one

1:19:15

question, is this human sacrifice to honor

1:19:17

God? Is it like that? Why

1:19:19

would we think that? Why shouldn't we think that? Okay,

1:19:22

now there was a famine in the days of David for

1:19:24

three years, year after year and David

1:19:26

sought the face of the Lord and the

1:19:28

Lord said, there's blood guilt on Saul and

1:19:30

on his house because he put the Gibeonites

1:19:32

to death. So

1:19:34

the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. Now

1:19:37

the Gibeonites were not of the people

1:19:39

of Israel, but of the remnant of the Amorites.

1:19:42

Although the people of Israel had sworn to

1:19:44

spare them, Saul had sought to strike them

1:19:46

down in his zeal for the people of

1:19:48

Israel and for Judah. So the context so

1:19:51

far is they had made a

1:19:53

covenant with the people, like they made a covenant

1:19:55

as Israel, as God's nation. We will not harm

1:19:57

you. Remember, there's a whole story about them coming.

1:20:00

With this old bread and like

1:20:02

we traveled from far away and they anyway they could

1:20:04

get kind of tricked But they make a covenant we

1:20:06

will not harm you guys So

1:20:08

they had made a covenant and salt had

1:20:11

sought to strike them down in zeal for

1:20:13

the people of Israel and for Judah Again

1:20:15

another verse that shows that zeal is not

1:20:17

always a great guide Okay, zeal

1:20:19

with knowledge, but not just zeal and

1:20:22

David said to the Gibeonites What shall I do

1:20:24

for you and how shall I make atonement that

1:20:26

you may bless the heritage of the Lord? What's

1:20:29

this atonement happening for? He's

1:20:32

there's blood guilt because they've

1:20:34

killed the Gibeonites they swore they would not

1:20:37

kill the Gibeonites said to him It

1:20:39

is not a matter of silver or gold between us

1:20:41

and Saul or his house Neither is it for us

1:20:43

to put any man to death in Israel and

1:20:46

he said what do you say that I shall do for you? They

1:20:48

said as a king The

1:20:50

man who consumed us and planned to destroy us

1:20:52

so that we should have no place in all

1:20:54

the territory of Israel Let

1:20:57

seven of his sons be given to us so

1:20:59

that we may hang them before the Lord at

1:21:01

Gibeah of Saul The chosen of the Lord and

1:21:04

the king said I will give them But

1:21:06

the king spared Mephibosheth The son of Saul's

1:21:08

son Jonathan because of the oath of the

1:21:10

Lord that was between them between David and

1:21:13

Jonathan the son of Saul the king Took

1:21:16

the two sons of Rispe the daughter of Aya

1:21:18

who whom she brought us all Armani

1:21:20

and Mephibosheth and the five sons of Mirab

1:21:22

the daughters of Saul whom she bore to

1:21:24

Adriel the son of Barzilai The

1:21:27

Maholathite were right there Let me

1:21:29

scroll down And he gave them

1:21:31

into the hands of the Gibeonites and they hanged them

1:21:33

on the mountain before the Lord and the

1:21:35

seven of them Perished together they were put to

1:21:37

death in the first days of harvest at the

1:21:39

beginning of barley harvest Then

1:21:41

Rispe the daughter of Aya took

1:21:43

sackcloth and spread it to for herself on the rock

1:21:46

from the beginning of the harvest until the Rain fell

1:21:48

upon them from the heavens and she did

1:21:50

not allow the birds of the air to come upon them by

1:21:52

day Or the beast of the field by night

1:21:55

and find that she's she's honoring them.

1:21:57

She's even though they've gone through that

1:22:00

When David was told what Rizpah, the daughter of Aya, the

1:22:02

concubine of Saul, had done, David went and took the

1:22:04

bones of Saul and the bones of his son Jonathan

1:22:06

from the men of Jebesh Gilead, who had stolen from

1:22:08

them in the public square of Bethchan,

1:22:10

where the Philistines hanged them on the day

1:22:12

the Philistines killed Saul and Geboah, and he

1:22:14

brought up the bones of Saul and the

1:22:16

bones of his son Jonathan. They gathered the

1:22:19

bones of those who were hanged, and they

1:22:21

buried them, all of them together." And

1:22:24

then at the universe of 14 it says, and

1:22:28

after that God responded to the plea for the land. Okay,

1:22:32

this is a complex passage because you

1:22:34

have on the bookends, you have, it

1:22:36

seems as though God is

1:22:38

dealing with Israel because of the

1:22:41

betrayal of Gibeonites, because

1:22:43

they don't, they're having famine because of it.

1:22:46

Then David's like, David

1:22:48

goes, not God, David goes and he's like, hey,

1:22:50

what will make it right? And then

1:22:52

the Gibeonites, are they godly? No,

1:22:55

but they ask for the death of these

1:22:57

seven guys. Then after

1:22:59

it happens, God blesses

1:23:01

Israel. Right? Then

1:23:03

God responded to the plea

1:23:06

for the land. It's

1:23:09

interesting that one thing happened in addition to all

1:23:11

that, which is that Saul goes and he gets

1:23:14

Jonathan and David's bones and he gets the bones

1:23:16

of these men and he offers them this like

1:23:18

honorable burial. And then

1:23:20

God responds. So

1:23:23

what are we to make of this? I

1:23:27

think that we have a few, like you might

1:23:29

survey our options. This is going to sound like

1:23:33

I'm dissecting things in like a impersonal way and

1:23:35

I'm not trying to do that, but you can

1:23:37

like sort of survey our options for

1:23:40

the biblically faithful Christian, right? Because the

1:23:43

nonbeliever is that easy. They're like, oh, it was bad. The

1:23:45

whole thing was messed up. All of it. God, David, all

1:23:47

of them. It was all messed up. So

1:23:51

you could survey the options. One of

1:23:53

them is, oh, God simply received that

1:23:56

these men were paying for

1:23:58

the sins ultimately. father. Is

1:24:03

that really allowed? Doesn't he specifically tell

1:24:06

Israel like you won't kill the son

1:24:08

for the things that the father did?

1:24:11

Like, ah, yeah, it definitely says that. So that

1:24:14

feels like it's not really a great option. But

1:24:17

it's hard to take it completely off the table

1:24:19

initially because God is punishing Israel with

1:24:21

this famine and then he blesses them after it's all

1:24:23

done. The

1:24:28

next thing that you

1:24:30

might say is let's examine the passage more

1:24:32

carefully and let's ask what does the scripture

1:24:34

say that God is actually affirming here? He's

1:24:38

affirming, it seems,

1:24:41

by the famine

1:24:44

that what Israel has done to the

1:24:46

giving act was wrong. They broke this

1:24:48

vow and they're misrepresenting truth and their

1:24:50

integrity and all these types of

1:24:52

things and obviously they need to make

1:24:54

it right. Then there's this open space where a

1:24:56

bunch of stuff happens between people. Does God affirm

1:24:58

it? Does God ask for it? Does God say,

1:25:01

go and kill the seven sons of

1:25:03

Saul? Does God, no, God doesn't say

1:25:05

that. That's what the giving acts ask for. Are they being

1:25:07

lifted up as like the wise ones who know the will

1:25:09

of God? No, they're an angry offended

1:25:11

party. They ask for something extreme. David

1:25:13

does it. Now it's considered,

1:25:16

hey, we've made peace with the giving

1:25:18

nights, even if it wasn't in an

1:25:20

ideal fashion, even if it wasn't in

1:25:22

a way that pleases God, we've made

1:25:24

peace with them and then that

1:25:26

issue has come and gone. Keep

1:25:29

in mind, this is 1 Samuel who

1:25:33

also we're looking at leads into the book of Judges.

1:25:38

These books are filled with these kinds

1:25:40

of complicated issues where you

1:25:42

have God doing something

1:25:44

amidst the messiness of humankind. It's

1:25:47

very common to see this sort of thing I think in these

1:25:49

texts, especially the book of Judges when you get there. God

1:25:53

active in the midst of the

1:25:55

wickedness of man. It

1:25:58

doesn't affirm all the actions of God. Men when he

1:26:00

is doing these things you can say in

1:26:03

a more broad sense like you reconcile with

1:26:05

those for whom you'd you'd broken a vow

1:26:07

and committed murder. But. Does

1:26:09

that mean that he sacrifices human sacrifice to appease?

1:26:12

Could I don't? I don't think so. I think

1:26:14

we're trying way too much. Or the texts and

1:26:16

more. Importantly, Are more clearly that

1:26:18

would clearly contradict with specific statements. Were guys like:

1:26:20

you will not offer me human sacrifices All the

1:26:23

is all the pig and do it. The Israelites

1:26:25

want to do it. I will not allow it.

1:26:27

I will judge you if you try to offer

1:26:29

me human sacrifices. don't you dare And God to

1:26:32

healthy with Abraham. Here's your son at start. Know

1:26:34

you won't be doing things that way on knock

1:26:36

it actually have you do it. You know when

1:26:38

the time comes off or your son's would you

1:26:41

do? You're in, You're in an offer. A lame

1:26:43

Instead you're you're you're You're not gonna offer your

1:26:45

kids to me. On

1:26:47

that's actually very clear. T teaching guy says

1:26:49

he will judge the Israelites for those things

1:26:52

the strength of. I

1:26:54

think really cut when you bring

1:26:56

that context of the abomination of

1:26:58

human sacrifice to God. And

1:27:01

Jesus as is the chief one who

1:27:03

is good himself offering himself freely for

1:27:05

our sakes becoming the new Adam for

1:27:07

us. This is. I'm. Not

1:27:09

applicable to this to this rules because

1:27:12

he's a whole different category of being.

1:27:14

but. And them. But.

1:27:16

This this context of the abomination of of

1:27:18

offering gotta human sacrifices when you read that

1:27:20

into the tax which you should because it's

1:27:22

the context of the Old Testament. Inigo?

1:27:25

Okay, You. Guys the trade

1:27:27

give us give you that as to sing that one is

1:27:29

actually right. Then. You guys did it, but

1:27:31

you give an honorable burial to discourage. If.

1:27:33

The messiest of human life. Was it ideal?

1:27:36

Was even the right move? Know. It

1:27:38

was what happened and it did bring reconciliation

1:27:40

between the two communities. And God Bless Israel!

1:27:43

Or the real. Question

1:27:45

him or ten. Kiwi. Witten

1:27:47

says you sit egalitarian, need

1:27:50

to repent. I. Agree.

1:27:52

That. Fucker Daily Beast. But do we

1:27:54

apply the same response to other secondary

1:27:56

issues such as Calvin Isn't That's higher

1:27:59

on the list. of secondary issues

1:28:01

compared to egalitarianism versus complementarianism. Good

1:28:03

question. So I've had tons of flack online

1:28:05

because I said that I thought egalitarian should repent. I'd

1:28:08

encourage you guys to look at the whole video in context.

1:28:10

Actually qualified it. So egalitarian

1:28:13

who have been openly teaching in ways that

1:28:15

are harmful to marriage and how the church

1:28:17

is supposed to function in its leadership, who

1:28:20

have been publicly going out and saying

1:28:22

that the biblical view of marriage, that husband is

1:28:25

the head of his wife, that he has a

1:28:27

higher degree of authority. They both have authority but

1:28:29

she has a role to yield

1:28:31

to his. That

1:28:34

that is evil, that that is abusive,

1:28:36

that that is wicked. They

1:28:39

need to repent because so

1:28:41

Caylee when they, in

1:28:43

my view here, totally think about it. You

1:28:45

make a pure old mind. I wouldn't be offended at all if you disagreed,

1:28:47

not in one bit. So my understanding of it is this. When

1:28:50

a Calvinist goes out there and

1:28:52

I disagree with Calvinists and they

1:28:54

describe regeneration preceding faith. My

1:28:58

marriage is not affected. My

1:29:00

church leadership is not now

1:29:03

set into a structure that

1:29:05

God has specifically said do it this way, not that

1:29:07

way. I

1:29:10

think that this is the stakes

1:29:13

on practical application. Calvinism

1:29:15

is far lower stakes than egalitarianism.

1:29:18

When it comes to how it impacts people's lives, some

1:29:21

people think, well, Calvinists don't evangelize. I'm like, that's

1:29:23

not true. There's plenty of Calvinists do tons of

1:29:25

evangelism. I don't believe that. So

1:29:27

I don't, if I thought Calvinism

1:29:29

killed evangelism and killed gospel

1:29:32

outreach, then I would raise the stakes on how big of

1:29:34

an issue it has a secondary issue, but I would raise

1:29:36

the stakes on how much of like, I'm going to be

1:29:38

like, whoa, you can't even be in that category, man. That's

1:29:40

really, that's really going to hurt people. It's going to hurt

1:29:42

the church. But

1:29:45

I don't, I don't think it has that effect. Now

1:29:48

are there Calvinists that do, like

1:29:51

that hyper Calvinists that do have issues?

1:29:54

Yeah, but I don't think that that's the natural

1:29:56

result of Calvinism. I think that that's maybe

1:29:59

there's, there's Maybe it has a weakness there.

1:30:01

There's a bit more vulnerability in Calvinism towards that

1:30:03

type of thing But that doesn't mean that that

1:30:05

just is a natural result So if a cow

1:30:07

like I could say this that to be fair

1:30:10

if a Calvinist is Preaching that

1:30:12

we don't need to evangelize because God knows

1:30:15

his elect then I'll say you need to

1:30:17

repent But I don't think that's

1:30:19

what Calvinism actually naturally teaches Does

1:30:22

that make sense? egalitarian who

1:30:24

go out there and preach that Husbands

1:30:27

aren't really the biblical head of their wives. Oh, they'll use the

1:30:30

word head, but they don't mean head They mean source and

1:30:32

they don't even and even not as really fishy as to what it

1:30:34

means When so they're saying

1:30:36

effectively Paul's like hey husbands ahead of their

1:30:38

wives a gal is just no, they're not And

1:30:42

I'm teaching that to people The

1:30:44

structure of your marriage is super valuable so

1:30:46

important so important Yeah, you

1:30:48

should actually repent meaning turn from that change your

1:30:50

mind and openly tell people I was wrong and

1:30:52

here's the right Here's the right view. I'm sorry

1:30:54

that I went into your marriage and told told

1:30:56

you that you didn't have headship when the Bible

1:30:58

says you Do that you didn't have the

1:31:00

authority the Bible says you do I'm sorry

1:31:02

that I went into your church and I I Convinced

1:31:05

you to raise people into certain positions of leadership.

1:31:07

The Bible specifically says aren't for them. I affected

1:31:11

so many things when I did that That's

1:31:14

something I should I should actually deal with Now

1:31:17

I also just for those who don't know I called patriarchalists

1:31:20

and and complementarians to repent I

1:31:23

use the word repent of saying that women are in general

1:31:25

just more easily deceived than men and that's why they're not

1:31:28

supposed to Be in certain roles, and I think that's wrong,

1:31:30

and I gave a whole number of evidence

1:31:32

cases for that I haven't heard a good response

1:31:34

or people scoffingly remark, but he just made up

1:31:36

a bunch of stuff But that's no no I

1:31:38

gave a number of specific reasons like a line

1:31:40

item after line item why I

1:31:42

believe that that is a is a harmful view

1:31:45

and Is an unbiblical view

1:31:47

and because of the harm that it causes in

1:31:49

relationships when you teach all women are just more

1:31:51

easily deceived I think that's something

1:31:53

to repent over so I think I'm just trying to be consistent

1:31:55

here an egalitarian who privately

1:31:57

holds their beliefs and isn't going out there

1:32:00

and influencing a church and influencing a marriage.

1:32:03

It's not as big of an issue, right? But the ones who are, it's

1:32:06

that impact that has to be repented of because

1:32:10

marriage is really

1:32:12

important. So in that

1:32:14

sense, I would say it has,

1:32:17

it's higher on my list of

1:32:19

secondary issues than Calvinism, egalitarianism

1:32:22

is because of the impact it has. Plenty

1:32:25

will disagree. Mike, you don't understand, it came from

1:32:27

this really oppressive sort of Calvinist church and this

1:32:29

and this and

1:32:32

this. That church should repent then. But

1:32:34

that doesn't mean that Calvinists

1:32:37

are always like that and that

1:32:39

all the Calvinist churches are like that. I don't think that's the case.

1:32:41

And if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. That's my opinion.

1:32:44

And that's my reasoning. And you guys can make

1:32:46

up your own minds. See what you think. I've offended a

1:32:49

lot of people by saying that egalitarian should repent. I

1:32:52

qualified it. I didn't say that I've ever egalitarian. I

1:32:54

said that of specific kinds who do certain things to

1:32:56

marriages and churches and their leadership.

1:32:59

I do believe they should repent. That

1:33:02

doesn't mean that they're unsaved. But

1:33:04

I think Christians, I think repent just is a

1:33:06

word that we're afraid to use in our culture. Like,

1:33:08

if we think it's a special word only used for like mass

1:33:11

murderers and

1:33:14

unsaved people. And I'm like, oh

1:33:16

no, I think it's a healthy word for Christians to be able to

1:33:18

talk about. And maybe I should

1:33:20

use the word, you should openly apologize.

1:33:23

But would they be less offended really? I doubt it. The

1:33:26

ones that are offended, there's plenty of egalitarianism. Like, no, he's right.

1:33:29

We really should be repenting of it. But there's those who are like

1:33:31

all super hurt and offended. Like they were going to be offended no

1:33:33

matter what, I think most of them. So I'm not going to worry

1:33:35

about it. And they were

1:33:37

all, you know, they were happy when I said it. They were

1:33:39

like, now we can clip this and show it to people where

1:33:41

Mike's finally being a bully. He's

1:33:44

beautiful. See, we told you, complementarians

1:33:46

are bullies. That's a

1:33:48

minority group among egalitarian, but they're very vocal and

1:33:50

they look for anything they can use to say

1:33:54

the other side are oppressors and bullies

1:33:56

and meanie heads. So,

1:33:58

you know, now they've got what they want. Anyway,

1:34:02

they're not the serious ones who

1:34:04

are open. But there are

1:34:06

plenty and probably the majority who are more open and more

1:34:08

like, hey, no, I just think it's biblical. I think they're

1:34:11

wrong and I'll build my case. And then after building my

1:34:13

case, I'll be like, yeah, you got it. You got like,

1:34:15

I actually repent if you've been teaching people these things. Yeah,

1:34:19

that's about it. You guys, please don't follow Andrew

1:34:22

Tate. Follow somebody else. Follow anybody else. You

1:34:24

need a macho man. Do you need that

1:34:26

for some reason? I don't know why you need that. That's

1:34:28

kind of like you just, I need like a guy who's

1:34:30

like, no, that ain't right. He

1:34:33

just like talks like, fine, you need that. That's

1:34:36

fine. You know, I like that. I don't bother me, but I don't know

1:34:38

why anybody would need it. If you need it, there's

1:34:40

Christians who do that, right? Go watch

1:34:42

some Bodhi Bakum. He's Calvinist, right? But

1:34:45

go go. There's a manly guy who

1:34:47

isn't going to exploit women, right? Who's

1:34:50

who's the standup guy, as far as I know, better.

1:34:52

You're better off with him than you are with Andrew Tate. All

1:34:55

right. So God bless you guys. Really

1:34:58

appreciate you guys. I hope

1:35:00

that you've considered

1:35:02

the things I've said and I'm not just your source for

1:35:04

everything Mike says I agree with. I mean, if you find

1:35:06

yourself agreeing with me because we just think alike, that's fine.

1:35:09

As long as you're thinking, as long as you're working through

1:35:11

it, as long as you're processing it, you're realizing that I

1:35:13

am oftentimes in a quick way, I'm

1:35:15

trying to build a case, a biblical case like point

1:35:17

A, point B, point C, point three, put these things

1:35:19

together. That's how points work. But then

1:35:22

you put these, these, these four points together, A, B,

1:35:24

C and three and stick them together and you've got

1:35:26

an actual case that would have to be weighed

1:35:29

and measured. Find

1:35:31

a way to defeat it if you can. I'm doing that all

1:35:33

day long with these types of videos. I

1:35:36

hope that you find it helpful and fruitful. I

1:35:39

move quickly so that I can get

1:35:41

as much content out as I can here and answer

1:35:43

questions, but the agenda is again

1:35:45

to help you to think biblically about everything. That

1:35:48

means you're processing your thoughts by going, I

1:35:50

thought of this. Well, what scripture says about that? What

1:35:52

are there other verses that refer to this? There are

1:35:54

other stories in the Bible that relate to the thing

1:35:56

I'm talking about, thinking about going through and

1:35:59

applying it that way. Alright,

1:36:02

let's pray. Lord, we thank You

1:36:04

for Your holy, holy Word. We thank You that

1:36:06

You have designed men and women in ways that

1:36:09

are beautiful and complementary and wonderful,

1:36:11

that You've given us dominion over the earth

1:36:13

to both genders. You've given us authority in

1:36:15

the home and even some authority towards each

1:36:17

other. But we

1:36:19

also thank You that You've structured the home so

1:36:21

we have men as the head and women who

1:36:23

are supporting, who are yielding

1:36:26

to that leadership while still being leaders in their

1:36:28

own right. And we pray

1:36:30

that we could break

1:36:32

the mold as Christians and be

1:36:34

those who simultaneously honor male

1:36:36

headship as well as honoring women's integrity

1:36:39

and value and their status as children

1:36:41

of God and their role in authority

1:36:43

as well. We pray that You'd help

1:36:45

us to be the people who demonstrate

1:36:48

that it can be done. It

1:36:50

is a real thing. We

1:36:53

pray for those who've been following Andrew Tate. He's

1:36:59

a deviant and he's developing more

1:37:01

deviance. He's spreading deviancy in the

1:37:03

name of battling another

1:37:05

version of deviancy we see in our culture today. We

1:37:08

pray that those people would find good

1:37:10

people, that Your Holy Spirit would convict them of truth,

1:37:12

that they would see through His manipulations and they would

1:37:15

run to Christian good teaching.

1:37:17

In Jesus' name, Amen. Amen.