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All right, well, it's been an eventful

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week over here. I'll tell you what. But

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today we're talking about Bible contradictions. That's

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the first question. This question actually stumped me. You

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guys asked me this during a live stream last

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Friday and I read the verse and I read

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it again and I read it in another translation

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and I was just kind of reaching for something

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to help me get clarity on it. And

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eventually I just said I give up. I don't know

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what the resolution is to this off the top of

0:28

my head at least. I've taught through this book before

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and I still just nothing came to mind. It was

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a while ago. So I guess I forgot or maybe

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I didn't have an answer and I just I don't

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remember. So I dug into

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it in detail and this is my

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answer. Three possible resolutions to the contradiction,

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supposed contradiction in 1 Corinthians 14. Let

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me read to you the question that came in about

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this supposed Bible contradiction that I could not

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answer last week. I've spent a number of

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hours on it now. I'm going to share with you

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three possible answers and you can

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try to work through what you think is the best

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and I'll give you two bad answers as

1:02

well. So you get five. You get five for

1:04

the price of none because you didn't pay nothing

1:06

for this. All right. So from

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the questions from 23AJRF and

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says, can you please explain 1 Corinthians 14,

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22 through 24. Verse

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22 states that tongues are a

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sign for unbelievers and prophecy is

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for believers. But verses

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23 and 24 then go on to

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seemingly describe the exact opposite. Thanks. Thanks.

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Okay. So that's the

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question. Let's go through this methodically,

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which is my favorite style.

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Okay. 1 Corinthians 14

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verse 22 here it says,

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let's understand the supposed contradiction. Thus

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tongues are a sign not for

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believers, but for unbelievers. That's tongues.

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While prophecy is a sign not for believers,

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but for not for

1:51

unbelievers, but for believers. So

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each of these has their special sort of

1:55

realm in which they are signs. Things for

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nonbelievers, prophecy for believers. Then

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verse 23 and 24 seems to give a

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contradictory explanation, at least at first glance and

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even maybe second and third glance, if you're

2:06

just glancing, not really carefully looking at it.

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If therefore the whole church comes together and all

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speak in tongues and an

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outsider or unbelievers inter,

2:15

outsiders are unbelievers inter, okay, so hey,

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this should be great, right? Tongues are a sign

2:19

for unbelievers, so this would be great. Will they not

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say that you are out of your minds? Wait a minute.

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What? So in other words, it would be bad.

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And this in context to 1 Corinthians 14 is

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why Paul's like, hey, don't do that. Don't have

2:31

everybody speaking in tongues all at once like that.

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That's chaos. So he's actually opposed to that.

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But if all prophesy and an unbeliever

2:38

or outsider enters, he

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is convicted by all, he's called to

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account by all, the secrets of his

2:44

heart are disclosed. And so falling on

2:47

his face, he will worship God and

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declare that God is really among you.

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In other words, prophesy seems

2:55

to be good for unbelievers and tongues, witnessing

2:57

tongues actually bad for unbelievers. They'll think

2:59

you're crazy. They'll think Christians are crazy

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if this is an important thing for

3:03

churches to recognize and many ignore this

3:05

sadly. If everyone's out there

3:07

trying to speak in tongues at the same time, people

3:10

will think you're crazy. That's

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a biblical teaching that is not just unspiritual

3:16

people throwing shade at you, okay?

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So it's good to know. Yeah, so

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is this actually legitimate contradiction? Now here's

3:23

three possible explanations for it, but

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let me just make sure I've unpacked the

3:27

problem properly. I want to do this methodically

3:30

so that we can understand it well. You guys are loading

3:32

your questions in the chat. I take nine from the chat.

3:34

I have one that I've prepared when I start. But

3:37

the other nine, many people ask me this, do I

3:39

know those questions ahead of time? You're literally loading them.

3:41

I can't even read the chat. My

3:43

assistant Sarah grabs them, sends them over to me. I

3:45

read them for the first time on the

3:47

air in front of you, which is why you need

3:49

to take my answers with that knowledge

3:52

of knowing I'm literally off the cuff trying

3:54

to give you the best answer, work through

3:56

these things with you live. I find

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that that Doesn't give the best. Possible

4:00

answer, but it does something else really

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beneficial. It teaches you to think biblically

4:04

about things because you're privy to their

4:06

behind the scenes kind of like thought

4:08

processes. That. We used to

4:10

think vividly about stuff and so then

4:13

you're. You're. Going with me on

4:15

that journey of working through it. even if

4:17

you come up with a different answer the

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Me: that's not actually the biggest issue, it's

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the process that's really valuable. Some Okay, Here

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we go. Let's start with a process Now

4:25

in more detail with the first question. So

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Tongues. according to first friend, he's fourteen earlier

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in the chapter, Tongues A. He talks about

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it throughout the whole chapter. haltemprice about times

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we want to lose that context. And

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Embers to. He. Says for one is who

4:38

speaks it. a tongue speaks not to men but to

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guide. For. No one understands

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him, but he or his mysteries in the

4:44

spirit like tons without interpretation is just between

4:47

you and government is not really for anybody.

4:49

In that sense, it's not really a sign

4:51

for unbelievers in that sense, is that communicating

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something to them? It. Based

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upon what he says here so the you're

4:58

wondering how easy it assigned for unbelievers later

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on in verse for you down little bit

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more is the one who speaks in a

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tongue builds up himself but the one who

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prophesies builds up the church. And

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later on he says prophecy dismay for not

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for. Unbelievers,

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the for believers the do it would seem to

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be consistent with his but the tongues part. Tongues.

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Build of himself. How that a sign for

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up the unbelievers? That wouldn't be consistent either.

5:22

In fact, a whole flow of the chapter

5:25

doesn't seem consistent with the idea that tones

5:27

are a sign for unbelievers. Tongues.

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That are in this case on interpreted.

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That's the context you'll see as we

5:33

read on. Some prophecy is different in

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tongues. Ah, because and he goes an

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inverse three and four. He talks about

5:39

this delay. Prophesies speak to people for

5:42

their up building and encouragement and consolation.

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An inverse for. He. Says

5:47

the when he promises builds up the

5:49

church. So. It's different in tongues. This

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is where Paul's making a big case in

5:53

for for these fourteen prophecies. Better than tongues.

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In the sense that it benefits people

5:58

more than tongues dies. Tend

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to be a to find yourself prophecy. Now you

6:02

may say I: tons of ceaseless. You still have

6:04

to do bible study. Even if you think that

6:07

there's no such thing as tons of the trusted

6:09

it, you still get a study that are sandwich

6:11

scripture is revealed This that doesn't change how we

6:13

interpret the passage in one iota and so did

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tongues. Here is. Helpful to the person,

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Without interpretation. Prophecies way better because it

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actually communicating something. they built up others

6:23

and blesses them. Pulse teaching that you

6:25

know for sprint is thirteen that left

6:27

after he's teaching her applied the love.

6:30

In the spiritual gifts realm. So

6:34

there is an exception. So ever

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I'm the one he prophesies inverse.

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I've. This is the one

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you prophesies is greater than the one

6:43

who speaks in tongues. On the last

6:45

one interprets. If

6:47

somebody interprets so that the church

6:49

may be built up now, they're

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kind of even par tongues

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with interpretation. Real interpretation. Holy Spirit

6:56

inspired miraculous. Tongues. With

6:58

miraculous interpretation. Then.

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Boom! Or I could you could say

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maybe that funds is like they're speaking in French

7:05

in some in their speaks French know like wow

7:08

I'm hearing a my own language that that

7:10

would be miraculous ties with natural interpretation but

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it was still reinterpreting some clear revelation from

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gods. Now it builds up the church know

7:16

it benefits the body of Christ. That's the

7:18

exception of the rule with an interpretation. no net

7:20

doesn't really help the body so they impose on

7:22

until than keep it yourself. This. Is

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why if if you know you're in a

7:26

speak in tongues and there's no interpretation to

7:28

stop. Stop. You know you have

7:31

control of your body. Stop And that is a biblical

7:33

policy. The of control of your body that God is

7:35

nice. Bow taking

7:37

over your body to force you speak in tongues

7:39

which is something I thought when I was younger.

7:41

When I was really really young like teenager just

7:43

first introduced to the whole idea of what's going

7:46

on. Here I am. I do a story. Tests

7:49

or business. We have a well known as

7:51

charismatic church that the time visiting. And

7:54

it was. I'm. sorry for other to. A.

7:58

To tease your time and move on. It'll

8:01

either to talk about today in want

8:03

to get your question self and so

8:05

he has also say this inverse five.

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That's. Earn the

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money practice as is greater than the when you

8:12

speak in tongues unless someone in service to the church

8:14

may be built up and the numbers nine followed

8:16

up with the following: So with

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yourselves if your tongue if with your tongue you

8:20

at her speech that is not intelligible that know

8:22

and understand how anyone know what is said for

8:25

you. We speaking in the air is no point.

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Does. No point. So. Then

8:29

we get to versus twenty one in Twenty two. We.

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Go well. case of tongues is actually

8:35

lower than prophecy. Tongues doesn't help

8:37

anybody unless there's interpretation. Through

8:39

we then explain this idea

8:42

of verse. Twenty. One And

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Twenty Two. I'm I'm sorry

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vs two to three twenty fourth

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but. It's. Gonna be in this context so

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I just I just messed up your as brains by saying

8:52

that I'm. Pause. Rewind. In.

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Versus twenty one and twenty two. He

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gives us context, understand what happens

9:01

in versus twenty three, twenty four

9:03

at Moving On. So this is

9:05

where we're going to start to.

9:10

Lay. Out our options. Okay, Our

9:13

options are number one, verse, twenty

9:15

one and twenty to give us

9:17

the scenario where the situation is

9:19

reversed were versus twenty one through

9:21

whatever the numbers are entity muslim

9:23

ups but where the situation is

9:25

reversed where it were no longer

9:27

speaking about tongues on interpreted. Which.

9:30

Isn't designed for anybody? Would. Speaking

9:32

about tongues that interpret it and so Paul

9:34

seem like is contradicting himself but earlier he's

9:36

like on interpreted tongues the I just blessing

9:38

yourself Now he saying interpreted tongues that's a

9:40

sign of the unbelievers, a walk and like

9:42

act. They hear the tongues. The here in

9:44

your language know like wow God As.is among

9:46

youth and now it's a sign for the

9:48

unbelievers. So let's unpack this when I don't

9:50

actually think this is accurate but it's one

9:52

option. In the

9:54

Light is written by people of strange tongues and by

9:56

the lips of foreigners. I will speak to this people

9:58

and even then they will. Listen to me

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says the Lord speaking of a prophetic

10:03

state mean the Old Testament that is

10:05

been applied to the concept of tongues

10:07

or of God speaking to to the

10:09

Jews in languages. And here's the

10:12

tricky part that they don't understand. It,

10:14

But it's disc being discussed here in languages

10:16

that are ultimately foreign to them. So.

10:21

Normally prove that. Did this interpretation ago.

10:24

Normally prophecy is better than tongues. But.

10:27

I'm and tons on interpreted his best on

10:29

alone but if it's interpreted than guess what?

10:32

Prophecy. Is now a sign for

10:34

the unbelievers. Or

10:36

she meets times by I tea miss

10:39

Nepalese words. I'm really that absurd teacher

10:41

to piss that tongues are and I

10:43

signed for the Unbelievers if they're interpret

10:45

it. Now

10:47

we the the to stay me Now in the

10:49

Book of Acts this is sort of played out

10:52

right. You could say hey look at acts Acts

10:54

looks like this in action after to tongues happens

10:56

and they're speaking and there's Barbarian City and all

10:58

these different. You. People from different the

11:00

lands are hearing in their own language. They're.

11:03

Hearing. The glorious works of gun

11:06

it from these New Orleans and staff who

11:08

don't who don't speak these other languages and

11:10

so a lot of people come to the

11:12

Lord that day. So tons was literally a

11:14

sign. a positive side converting the nonbelievers into

11:17

believers in the Book of Acts your to.

11:20

Now against this. Against this.

11:23

Is that in the next verse Paul seems

11:25

to contradict the idea that prophecy. Is.

11:27

Not a sign for unbelievers he didn't follow.

11:29

This is complicated stuff. That. Remembers not

11:31

to dwell tongues it's always has about

11:34

prophecy. Prophecy to sign up for believer

11:36

unbelievers, but for. Believers.

11:38

In the next verse even if he said that

11:40

explains the tongues Part six when the prophecy part

11:43

as ethics with fit with axe to has ever

11:45

with anything to say that. Prophecies.

11:47

A sign up for unbelievers, but for believers.

11:51

So he gives an example in the next

11:54

couple versus versus Twenty Four Twenty Five. Ultimately,

11:56

of of of a nonbeliever being the room.

11:59

People. Prefer Thy and In the nonbeliever.

12:01

ultimately looks like it gets saved. So.

12:04

Prophecy here is than a sign for.

12:07

And unbelievers. So.

12:10

Than to than the axe to connection Doesn't

12:12

really make sense because it seems like the

12:14

signs are functioning in a way that they

12:17

actually. Don't get people saved by

12:19

That's the verse that he uses here. Even

12:21

then, they will not listen to me. Out.

12:23

So maybe a whatever since it's a sign it

12:26

it seems like it's not bringing them salvation. Will

12:28

come back to that later. So I i i

12:30

sit this one a site I go as we

12:32

can make sense of the tongues being assigned unbelievers

12:34

when it's interpreted that the next Tuesday but it

12:37

always time for sprinting too. I don't think so

12:39

can be can't make sense of the whole prophecy

12:41

thing not being assigned unbelievers in that demonstrates in

12:43

the next verse that it is a sign and

12:46

lawyers. It it brings him service.

12:49

At it.that's confusing to me. I don't.

12:51

I don't quite follow that one. So

12:53

what's another option? There's a quotation reputation

12:55

view. Now. This is actually a

12:57

itself convenient. Maybe does.

12:59

It feels convenient if the ideas

13:02

basically that Paul in these these

13:04

verses seem to be the contradiction

13:06

I'm he's actually. He's actually

13:08

not saying this. He's

13:11

actually quoting them in verse twenty two and

13:13

he says hey, this is what you guys

13:15

have been saying and I'm going to show

13:17

you that you're wrong. So this is why

13:19

we call Quotation Reputation Pull does this in

13:21

for screens are for you Passageway does this

13:23

where he quotes something that they say and

13:25

he shows them were it's wrong. Usually he

13:27

didn't just go and Iran usually heat the

13:29

like nuances that he goes. I see your

13:31

point here, but here's the right understanding of

13:33

any kind of brings correction. So here is

13:35

a possible. He's like hey, current themes you

13:37

guys have been saying that tongues are a

13:39

sign. Not. For believers, but for unbelievers. So

13:41

you want to do while. Have ever heard speaking in

13:43

tongues so that when the nonbeliever shows up at your

13:46

meetings they hear you and they go. Wow! Look at

13:48

these people. There's a spirit filled. And.

13:50

He was yeah, but you're wrong. Even. Saying the

13:52

prophecies assigned not for unbelievers, the for believers that I'm

13:54

going to show you. How many show

13:56

you the That's not true Because guess what? Embrace Twenty Three. If

13:59

the just have given speaking i'm believe

14:01

com a think you're crazy that been

14:03

assigned a them anniversary for if everybody

14:05

prophesies and they hear intelligible statements didn't

14:08

guess what they get saved. Because.

14:11

Prophecy. Does work for unbelievers.

14:13

So this quotation, reputation thing. Feels.

14:16

Right? Like it feels pretty good. I think this

14:18

is what might my old answer would have been

14:20

years ago if I just honestly for Mr Saturday

14:22

it's am I think it's would have been old

14:24

answer. And.

14:27

I'm I've been thinking about more more. The

14:30

the quotation reputation thing. I'll give an example

14:32

of it in for sprint instructor seeks. Pretty

14:34

much everybody agrees it's happening in this verse

14:36

right here. In this is

14:38

where even translations will put it in clumps. Presenting.

14:41

Six Twelve says all things are lawful for me.

14:44

And then that in quotes. He's I quoting the

14:46

Corinthian. That's how most translator see it. It it

14:48

seems all things will offer for me. that's what

14:50

you Corinthian say. but I'm in of nuance that

14:52

unless you know. Sure. Yep, but all things are

14:55

not helpful. The

14:57

current the and say all things are lot

14:59

for me or yeah okay all things are

15:01

lawful. You're in crazy propelled lot of that

15:03

but I want years Paul's addition. I will

15:05

not be dominated by anything and I can

15:07

be controlled by something. Just because God God

15:09

approves of me doing this doesn't is going

15:11

to control me. Food. Is

15:13

meant for the stomach in the stomach for food.

15:15

He's calling the current events here and God Paul

15:17

says will destroy both one and the other. The

15:20

body's not meant for sexual immorality. But. For

15:22

the Lord in the Lord for the body and

15:24

any goes on. So poor quotes them and they're

15:26

They're taking D Corinthians to the Extreme Liberty route.

15:29

There's some people who are like. Some

15:31

people com legalist I say that term usually

15:33

for people who. Try. To say

15:35

works equal salvation. I think that the proper. Use

15:38

of the word legalist, but there's some people

15:40

who are extra strict. right?

15:42

There they have strong convictions but everything Like Just

15:44

people who not only. Do

15:47

they think that I gambling recklessly is

15:49

bad? But they think that gambling is

15:51

bad. Engine. all gambling is wrong

15:53

and they also think that because of that

15:55

even even playing cards like playing a game

15:57

a hearts or bridge without any gambling at

15:59

all even playing cards themselves are wrong.

16:02

Now that person should follow their conscience, but

16:05

sometimes they will put that conscience on others in

16:07

that area of just say touching a deck of

16:09

cards. That is too much, okay? That's too much.

16:11

Observe your conscience there, but don't put a burden

16:13

on others that's not just that you can't really

16:15

establish with Scripture. Then

16:19

you've got the other side

16:21

who's like... You know Christians like this,

16:23

because there's Christians in all

16:25

camps. There's Christians who are just like

16:28

super into the Liberty side of things

16:30

where they almost never feel convicted about

16:32

anything it seems. That's their answer. They're

16:34

like, I mean you say I shouldn't have

16:36

done that, but I don't feel convicted. I think I'm fine. The

16:40

Corinthians were more like that. They were

16:42

more like loose. They were more like Liberty. They would

16:44

be like, we're free in Christ, man. We're not even

16:47

really sinners anymore, because Christ has made us not sinners.

16:52

That kind of thing where sin is always minimized. You

16:54

guys know there's Christians like this. This is not news

16:56

to you. Maybe some of you are Christians like

16:58

this. There's just statistically it's got to be the case. For

17:01

those, for the two strict people, Scripture's like,

17:03

hey, recognize where your convictions are just for

17:05

you and don't put them on others. For

17:08

the too much Liberty people, you

17:10

have stuff like first Corinthians 6. All things

17:12

are lawful for me. Sure, you would say that. You'd agree with that. Yeah,

17:14

but not all things are helpful. I

17:16

guess there should be some limits, some self-imposed limits

17:19

about what's wise and helpful. All things

17:21

are lawful for me. I can do what

17:23

I want. Yeah, but I won't be dominated

17:25

by anything. Is this thing controlling your life?

17:27

That's a bad thing. Anyway, it goes on.

17:31

That's a quotation reputation example.

17:33

That's pretty solid. Maybe that's

17:35

what's happening in 1 Corinthians 14. One verse, verse 22,

17:37

he quotes them and the next

17:41

verses he shows how that's incorrect.

17:44

That actually makes a lot of sense. Potentially,

17:47

this is the right answer. But

17:51

against this, pushing back on

17:53

this particular option is a lot of people

17:56

do not agree with that option. As you

17:58

read commentaries, you don't generally see quotation, refutation,

18:00

even being brought up as an option in there.

18:02

And so I'm not really sure why, um, cause

18:05

they don't talk about it at all. So I

18:07

don't know exactly why commentaries don't follow

18:09

that one. Many of them don't talk about it. I

18:11

should say. And it

18:14

doesn't quite fit specifically

18:16

because of verse 22. So, uh,

18:18

let me take you there. First Corinthians 14,

18:20

22, verse

18:24

22 says, put it in

18:26

the middle of your screen there. Thus tongues

18:28

are assigned for not for believers, but for unbelievers.

18:30

This is the verse that he'd be refuting. Why

18:33

do they start it with us? That's

18:35

not how you start a quote. Right.

18:37

That's how you, how you carry on

18:39

an argument. Paul often builds these methodical

18:41

cases where he's saying this and this

18:43

and this, thus this therefore this therefore

18:45

that the way it's

18:48

written thus or like in New King

18:50

James says therefore tongues. Um,

18:53

that sounds like he's not quoting anybody that

18:55

he's actually just continuing his own case. Just

18:57

that one word does seem to imply that.

19:01

And then I'd also say, um, how does that tie in with

19:03

verse 21? The

19:05

verse 21 connection, right? Verse 21 and 22

19:07

are deeply connected to each other. And

19:10

the quotation, reputation statement doesn't

19:12

seem like it

19:14

works easily with that idea. So

19:16

verse 21, Paul says in the

19:18

law, it is written by people of strange tongues and

19:21

by the lips of foreigners, I will speak to this

19:23

people. And even then they will not listen to me,

19:25

says the Lord, the vise tongues

19:27

are assigned not for believers, but for

19:29

unbelievers. It doesn't sound like a quotation,

19:31

a reputation. It sounds like he's

19:33

saying that verse 22 is somehow a truth

19:36

that he's drawing from

19:38

the quotation of the old Testament in verse 21,

19:40

right? That's

19:43

from Isaiah, um, 28, 11,

19:45

the, the

19:48

idea there, it just makes

19:50

it hard. That, that that's a weakness in the quotation,

19:52

reputation view. So here's the third option. And

19:55

I'll share two bad ones at the end before I take your guys'

19:57

questions. The Third option is, is

19:59

this, um, Tongues are assigned

20:01

Paul is teaching. The tongues are in

20:03

fact assigned to. Unbelievers.

20:06

And. The receipt of judgment, Their. A

20:08

bad side there, and negative side there.

20:10

A sign of God's judgment upon them.

20:12

Steers have worn. where's the puts it

20:15

further. Tongues did have a message for

20:17

the last jews, in particular. And.

20:19

And this is in the context of passing a toast.

20:21

you're saying nothing to people and unbelievers comes in there

20:23

at the to crazy but there is a message there.

20:27

Was. Not really a message you want to

20:29

be sending as the terrorists, but it's anyway.

20:31

We're to put it this way, however, twins

20:33

did have a message for the last use.

20:35

In particular, they were a sign of God's

20:37

judgment. Paul quoted Isaiah, twenty eight, eleven and

20:39

Twelve a reference to the invading a Syrian

20:41

army has barbaric language the Jews would not

20:43

understand. The i say a quote is tongues

20:46

being used as a sign of judgment. To.

20:48

A people in rebellion against God. Tongues.

20:51

Meeting new the supernatural you stones ideas

20:53

on about actually I they is about

20:55

foreign languages. And speaking. Placing

20:59

foreign languages in front of his people as

21:02

a sign of their judgments. So

21:04

Paul Van wouldn't be contradicting up a diverse backup

21:06

for you. Look at. Paul

21:08

they would not be contradicting I anything

21:10

that is happening there. No contradiction in

21:12

the winter is just continued nuance and

21:15

information. Here's. How Paul

21:17

goes through his are you? He's like tongues

21:19

without interpretation. That.

21:21

Doesn't help anybody. And any

21:23

years on, it is and it's assigned to

21:25

unbelievers. Of. Their on believe it's sort of

21:27

showing them that they're on the outside, that they

21:29

do not know. Christ, It's it's it's it's just

21:32

confirming this sort of. You.

21:34

Guys are out. Perspective. And that's

21:36

not actually something we want a could

21:38

even cause others to reject the church

21:40

because it's puts up there blindness in

21:42

front of their own eyes, to the

21:44

walk away thinking you're crazy and now

21:46

the discount the church entirely pause on

21:49

encouraging using tongs the unbelievers he's discouraging

21:51

because at least towards their judgment and

21:53

not towards their salvation. Just

21:55

that. Elites. for their judgment not

21:57

to their salvation prophecy in regards to

22:00

signs of judgment in verse 22,

22:02

how is prophecy not for unbelievers?

22:05

Even though in verses 23 and 24 a believer, an

22:07

unbeliever can get saved through prophecy, it's

22:09

not a sign to them in regards to judgment.

22:12

It's not a sign

22:14

thusly, right? Tongues is a

22:16

sign of judgment. Prophecy is not

22:18

meant to be a sign of judgment in

22:21

that sense. It's meant to be an invitation into salvation.

22:24

In that sense, it all works. Everything

22:26

harmonizes really well. Now,

22:29

let's talk about possible options or reasons to

22:31

go against this view. So,

22:33

prophecy is still kind of like a weak link

22:36

here. If prophecy is not a sign of judgment

22:38

to unbelievers, that works with this interpretation, but how

22:40

does it work that it's assigned to believers in

22:43

that context? Verse 22, prophecies

22:46

for believers. Well, it's not a sign of

22:48

judgment for believers. So, that genuinely, I'm not

22:50

sure, okay? I throw my hands up. I

22:52

don't know. I'm trying to understand what Paul

22:54

wrote here. Peter says that Paul

22:56

wrote some things that are very hard to understand. Some

22:59

people think that the clarity, the perspicuity of Scripture,

23:01

the fact that Scripture is clear means every single

23:03

thing in Scripture is clear. No, Scripture even says

23:05

there's some things in Scripture that are hard to

23:07

understand. I'm fully okay with

23:09

that. So, I don't know. I'll point

23:11

that out because it's a weakness of that view. I'm

23:14

not really sure what

23:16

to say about that. I'm sure there's answers. I just don't know them.

23:20

So, that kind of breaks the consistency, right?

23:22

If the phrase sign means sign of

23:25

judgment, then how is prophecy treated as

23:27

a sign to believers in that context?

23:30

It's not the kind of sign this interpretation postulates

23:32

that tongues is. It breaks the consistency of the

23:34

use of the terms. If

23:36

it's a proper sign of judgment, why does Paul

23:39

warn against them doing it without interpretation? Here's one

23:41

question. I

23:44

think that the answer here is, if you

23:46

follow my question, is to say Paul says,

23:48

hey, don't use tongues. They're going to think

23:50

you're crazy. The fact that it's a proper sign

23:52

of judgment, it's not that it's wrong for unbelievers

23:54

to have their unbelief exposed and even to be

23:56

driven away by the darkness that's in them as

23:58

they see the light. But

24:01

the church's mission is evangelism. Our

24:04

message to the world is come get saved,

24:06

not just look

24:08

at us, let's make sure that we're as confusing and

24:10

offensive as possible. Like we're not trying to do that.

24:13

We want people to come to Christ and get saved.

24:15

That's the agenda. That's the goal. Jesus

24:17

wants them saved. So it

24:20

does seem a little confusing to me. Maybe

24:22

Paul is saying in effect, to summarize, tongues

24:25

without interpretation do nothing for the believer

24:27

and actually drive the unbeliever closer to

24:29

damnation because they walk into the

24:31

church and they think we're all crazy. Prophecy

24:33

doesn't have that impact. It edifies

24:35

the believer and ultimately evangelizes the

24:37

nonbelievers. So focus on that. Focus

24:39

on speaking intelligible things and not

24:41

looking like crazy people who

24:44

do things that you say are spiritual that

24:46

a nonbeliever would walk in and think looks

24:48

crazy to me. I think this

24:51

is a great word for churches today, as

24:53

you all know. Some of you who

24:55

had a life experiences like I've had, especially

24:57

when I was much younger, you know. So

25:01

verse 20 says in

25:04

summary, he starts, oh, I

25:06

should point this out. Verse 20, he kind of lets

25:09

you know, he's about to tell you something that's hard

25:11

to understand. Brothers do not be children in your thinking.

25:13

The infants in evil, but in your thinking be mature.

25:15

When you preface something you're saying with, hey, think

25:18

a little deeper, guys. I need you to

25:20

think deeply about things. Then you explain something

25:22

that obviously requires deep thought. Paul

25:24

knew this was challenging and he asked us

25:26

to carefully think about it. Verse

25:28

21 then says tongues without good interpretation

25:30

or sign of judgment. They're not something

25:32

good. Verse 22, thus are in this

25:34

way. Uninterpreted tongues are a sign, but

25:37

prophecy is a more positive thing. It helps. So

25:40

if our goal is to bring judgment, just

25:42

use tongues for unbelievers and prophecy for believers

25:44

will edify the church, but will reject the

25:46

world in that sense. But the church wants

25:48

to evangelize, not to speak rejection to those

25:50

who enter it. The

25:53

two bad interpretations I'll quickly mention are one, there's

25:56

commentaries who just go, well, Paul obviously didn't make sense here.

25:58

He's rigid. He's just doesn't make any sense. He's

26:00

contradicting himself. If

26:02

you study Paul carefully, you'll realize he's a

26:05

lot smarter than that. You should harmonize. You

26:07

should seek harmonization. That's how to

26:09

interpret people and get their nuance and understand

26:11

their full meaning on things. You should not

26:13

assume people contradict when there's a possible harmonization.

26:15

This is not just a Bible rule. This

26:17

is a rule about people in general, just

26:20

a rule about people in general. Mom,

26:24

you told me to be home by dinnertime, but

26:26

then you also told me that I could go

26:29

out and stay over at my friend's house.

26:32

Which is it, Mom? You contradict yourself. Well,

26:34

the nuance would be the general rule is

26:36

be home at dinnertime. Today's an exception. Go

26:38

sleep at your friend's house. That's

26:40

just how you interpret human beings to not

26:43

be annoying and accusing them

26:45

of contradiction wrongly. Another

26:47

one that doesn't work is the view that Paul

26:49

never really wrote that. That doesn't even belong in

26:51

the Bible. There's no credibility to that statement at

26:53

all if you're thinking maybe it doesn't belong. Do

26:55

some research on it. Don't just say that. You

26:58

need manuscript evidence to show that a verse wasn't

27:00

original and you don't have that in this case.

27:03

Nobody even presents it as an option to my

27:05

knowledge. We will go

27:07

to your guys' questions. That was a long one. Question

27:10

number two. This is

27:13

Angel WVM who says, how

27:16

should we understand John's rejection of being Elijah

27:18

and a prophet, John 1, 21, while Jesus

27:20

is affirming it? I think this is

27:22

another one of those examples of where we

27:25

find nuance instead of

27:27

assuming contradiction. Actually,

27:30

it's pretty cool to me, especially

27:32

as a pre-millennial. The

27:35

guy, you guys can look at my video on different

27:37

views of the end times. I'll link it down below since I

27:39

mentioned it. You can understand my view there.

27:41

Whether you agree with it or not, at least you can understand it. Verse

27:45

21 of John 1, it says here. I

27:49

asked him, are you Elijah? Speaking to John,

27:51

he said, I am not. Are

27:53

you the prophet? The

27:57

prophet prophesied in Deuteronomy.

28:00

There would be a prophet like Moses who would come and

28:02

you'll hear him. There'll be like sort of the second Moses.

28:05

Jesus is that. Jesus is that second Moses,

28:07

not John. Why does

28:10

he say he's not Elijah? Well,

28:12

he's not Elijah. He's John. He's not

28:14

Elijah. He's not a reincarnation of Elijah. He

28:16

isn't the person of Elijah come back. John

28:19

was born. We know his mom's

28:21

Elizabeth. We know he's a cousin of Jesus.

28:24

He's not Elijah. So, yeah, he

28:26

says he's not Elijah. But

28:29

when he says, who are you? He says, I'm

28:31

the voice of one crying out in the wilderness,

28:33

make straight the way of the Lord as the

28:35

prophet Isaiah said. So he is someone who was

28:37

prophesied to come to be a

28:40

forerunner for the Messiah ultimately to make straight

28:42

those paths to prepare the way for the

28:44

Messiah. Now what did Jesus say

28:46

about him? Let's look at this on Matthew 11

28:48

verse 14. Jesus

28:53

back up a little bit. He

28:55

says about John, the baptizer. Really

28:58

I say to you among those born of women,

29:00

there has arisen no one greater than John the

29:02

Baptist or the baptizer.

29:05

Baptist is the way we typically do it in English. He's

29:08

John, the one who baptizes is really what he's

29:10

saying because John was known for telling

29:13

even Jews they had to be baptized. This one

29:15

singular baptism where they repent and then he promised

29:17

them forgiveness. This is so, side notes, this is

29:19

the coolest thing ever. I think people miss it.

29:22

I missed it for years. John

29:25

offered people forgiveness through repentance, the washing of

29:28

their sins. This was at

29:30

the Jordan River, far from the temple. It's

29:33

not through the temple. It wasn't through a sacrifice. It

29:35

wasn't through anything. It leaves this big question like John,

29:37

who do you think you are offering forgiveness outside the

29:40

temple, outside the sacrifices, outside the

29:42

priests? Then

29:44

John answers this riddle when he sees Jesus

29:46

the first time and he says, Behold, the

29:49

Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. John

29:52

reveals that this whole thing. It's

29:54

not apart from the temple. It's in fulfillment of

29:57

the temple. There is the greater sacrifice coming. There

29:59

is the greater high priest. coming. There is the

30:01

one who will build the temple with his own

30:03

hands. He will die. He will rise. He will

30:06

create the body of Christ who is the temple

30:08

of the Holy Spirit. It's the fulfillment. It's the

30:10

bigger picture of all that. It's amazing stuff. So

30:13

Jesus says, yeah, John's like among

30:16

people. He's the best. Why? Because he's the very

30:18

forerunner of Christ. Yet the one

30:20

who is least in the kingdom of heaven is

30:22

greater than he. What's coming when

30:24

you become indwelt by the Spirit, when you

30:26

get saved after the preaching of the gospel

30:28

of Jesus Christ, after his death and resurrection,

30:31

the Holy Spirit seals you and indwells

30:33

you. This is you greater

30:35

than the greatest of

30:38

all the prophets of the Old Testament, not

30:40

because of your personal grit. It's because of

30:43

the Holy Spirit who is in you in a way that

30:46

was not possible before. And of

30:48

course, the eternal life you have and all that.

30:50

Then he goes on, from the days of John the

30:52

Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence

30:54

and the violent take it by force. There's a verse

30:56

we could debate for a long, long time. For

30:59

all the prophets and the law prophesied until

31:01

John. And if you are willing to accept it, he

31:04

is Elijah who is to come. John

31:09

is Elijah who is to come and

31:11

it's just if I'm willing to accept

31:13

it. And then he closes

31:15

it with this enigmatic, he who

31:18

has ears to hear, let

31:20

him hear. What is this? Okay,

31:23

so all the, let's unpack it. All

31:25

the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

31:28

John is the culmination, the pinnacle of the

31:30

law and the prophets. And what does John

31:33

do? He shows that Jesus

31:35

is the fulfillment of it all. He's the one,

31:37

he's the singular one who as you repent and

31:39

believe in him, you will be washed of your

31:41

sin because he is the Lamb of God. It's

31:43

just, it's so amazing that God did

31:45

this. This is, you know, hundreds

31:48

and hundreds and hundreds of years, well over

31:50

a thousand years of text being written, being

31:52

this story of Jesus woven through the text

31:54

of scripture and then culminating in John going

31:56

like being the funnel who's like, boop,

31:59

The final like. Finger. Pointing to

32:01

Jesus and if you are willing

32:03

to accept it, Jesus says. He

32:06

is allies who is to com. Let

32:10

me give you the short answer. I I

32:12

I would say I would give you here.

32:14

I'm John comes in the spirit of Allies

32:16

is not in Allies as actual spirit like

32:18

Allies as reincarnated Nemenhah He comes in the

32:20

spirit of Eliza. Meaning that John like shows

32:23

up. And does the kind of

32:25

thing allies you did and the kind of

32:27

thing Eliza will do in the future. Sort.

32:30

Of in the name of Eliza. But. He

32:32

isn't actually Eliza. That's what. That's what you

32:35

get when you combine these. John comes in

32:37

the same sort of. Ministry as

32:39

Alija according to the expectation that

32:41

allies you would be a foreigner

32:43

for the messiah. Yet allies you

32:46

will in the future still show

32:48

up. He still will com. And

32:50

in that time it will be. Probably

32:53

actually Alija. Not a

32:55

reincarnation, but a reappearance of like a

32:57

Resurrected Allies I'm I'm guessing that's my

32:59

interpretation of it was look at averse

33:01

to suggests it. Matthew

33:03

seventeen Ten to thirteen. And

33:06

a disciples asked him in why to describe

33:08

say that of first allies you must com

33:10

He answered allies it does com and he

33:12

will restore all things But I tell you

33:14

that allies it has already com and they

33:16

did not recognize him but did to him

33:19

whatever they please. So also the son of

33:21

Man will suffer certainly suffer their hands. Allies

33:23

is. Because. Jesus has to

33:25

cummings. His first coming to save us

33:27

and a second coming to take us to himself

33:29

and take over the world. Allies

33:32

it has to was. well. One.

33:35

In. The form of in in represented in

33:37

in John the Baptist as he proclaims Christ

33:40

and is that pinnacle that that that's final

33:42

funneling of the law and the profits pointed

33:44

Jesus Then there is this future time at

33:46

the second coming when allies or comes again

33:48

is literally lies years. As someone in the

33:51

speed of light or not I do I

33:53

don't officer and came on us. Dunno,

33:56

maybe you know I don't know the answer that

33:58

question, but you see how. If.

34:00

Nuanced and so Jesus preface is it

34:02

would like if you can accept it.

34:05

He. Is Alija. In. That

34:07

sense. Who. Was who is to

34:09

come to still if these are coming full

34:11

has a so it's all of the above that

34:13

to me. Is neat because it.

34:16

Lays out. The. Here's

34:18

what corpse when you look at the gospels and

34:20

you see that there are since. That.

34:23

Even in the first coming, Jesus talks about

34:25

his second coming. You realize that some of

34:27

this some of the critics are wrong suggesting

34:29

that Jesus failed to supposed to establish everything

34:32

in his first comings And it and it

34:34

didn't work in. Ah, Jesus himself talks about

34:36

things like they're going to happen. Over

34:38

a long course of time. Parables: Hope

34:41

that helps If question number three, Med

34:43

says hi Mike what do we do

34:45

with some of the earliest listed Bible

34:48

cannons and Church Fathers that exclude Esther

34:50

and include Ciroc and Wisdom of Solomon?

34:52

I did some work on this on

34:55

a long time ago. Med en and

34:57

I talked about the Jewish how we

34:59

got our Hebrew Old Testament. Are Jewish

35:01

Old Testament? I will link that video

35:04

below. I go into more detail on

35:06

that. This is a complicated and difficult.

35:08

Challenging subject and them. The.

35:13

The. Fact is that what makes us uncomfortable

35:15

i his interests History There are debates over

35:17

different looks to the bible like that the

35:19

even in the new testament they are people

35:21

who debated the Book of Revelation in particular

35:23

there were like is the scripture is it

35:25

not scripture and that are sort of settled

35:27

on. The. New Testament We

35:30

have an on the Old Testament that

35:32

com into Protestants. Catholics Orthodox

35:34

that Old Testament. That ultimately the

35:36

Protestant Old Testament is what com

35:39

And generally speaking to the Church.

35:42

It's also it's common to the do. Like.

35:44

That's the same as the Jewish Old

35:46

Testament, but it's not a site. I

35:48

make it sound simple is complicated so

35:50

you will see like what you're saying.

35:52

I'm. Church.

35:55

Fathers that exclude Esther and includes Iraq or

35:57

Wisdom of Solomon. So then it gets cold.

35:59

The kids like. Look at churchmen others

36:01

and you ask questions like do this

36:03

Church father. Have the

36:05

information to know where they end up. so

36:07

maybe they have for the exclude esther because

36:09

it doesn't. It doesn't include references to got

36:12

pissed off people were like. you can see

36:14

whether your heart's cannot and. There's

36:17

other things to of the reasons why Esther

36:19

would be like challenge license ah but is

36:21

part of the Jewish texts of of scripture

36:23

and. I'm Jesus of From

36:25

I'm saying to me things at once for

36:27

my own brain. Here Jesus affirmed the same

36:30

structure of the Old Testament as what the

36:32

Jews had to suffer Not he actually used

36:34

he referred to as scripture. He talked about

36:36

the the the profits in the writings. It's

36:39

uses these special term in terminology phrases that

36:41

refer to sections of the Old Testament. In

36:43

a we have the Pinta Tuk. right?

36:46

Wheaton. Now imagine Jesus says in the pinta

36:48

tooth God spoke with. That would mean Jesus

36:50

was affirming all of the first five books

36:52

for the Old Testament. I'm so when he

36:54

talks with the law and the profits and

36:57

the writings, he's affirming sections of scripture as

36:59

being from God. Esther is in there.

37:02

That the short answer but you get.

37:05

Atrix father who might say exclude Esther

37:08

and include say wisdom of Solomon what

37:10

we have of a few push back

37:12

against that A to the tricks Father

37:14

says from the perspective where we should

37:16

trust him on this issue. Who did

37:18

he know Hebrew? was a familiar with

37:20

the Hebrew Old Testament, was a familiar

37:22

with the Jewish canon. Years times were

37:25

like a terse father like travels to

37:27

Jerusalem to ask the jews what what

37:29

books do you. Say. Or scripture

37:31

because because it's not like they can just

37:33

google it. Know that it's okay, so

37:35

it's understandable for that and not all know everything. In

37:39

the church Fathers who seem to know

37:41

the best affirmed the same Old Testament

37:43

at we Have Wisdom of Solomon for

37:45

instance. A Guaranteed

37:47

not written by solomon. Written. Much

37:49

later than solomon. And. Not

37:51

included in the Jewish Bible. Now some would say

37:53

while that the Jews took it out so that

37:56

they could get rid of the Christian stuff. Read.

37:59

A with them solomon. Does. Not the case.

38:02

It's not the case. The.

38:05

That. Dot conspiratorial stuff, but Egypt

38:07

approve it. But all this to say,

38:09

my answers completely insufficient. I'm just helping

38:11

you dip your toes in it. This

38:14

is a very long and complicated study

38:16

because anytime you're looking at what did

38:18

hundreds and hundreds of different than ancient

38:20

pieces of documents and stuff I got

38:23

tell us about the nature of the

38:25

Old Testament? That's challenging. It's It's an

38:27

expansive study. It gets nuanced, is detailed.

38:30

those are some the thing that share

38:32

with you. I feel confident that. The.

38:35

Protestant Old Testament is accurate. I'm

38:38

in. Even the early council's people are

38:40

little deceptive about this. The

38:43

early Council's. Did

38:45

not all agree? On. The

38:48

exact. Books

38:50

that we should include and are Bible

38:52

Saving, The New Testament and so the

38:54

the only time we have in history.

38:57

The. Exact same Roman Catholic Old Testament. The

38:59

exact Old Chestnut where they have the

39:01

apocrypha included. The only time we have

39:03

that in history. Is. The

39:06

Council Of. Trent.

39:09

I think it was where the affirming. I.

39:12

Think it's Trent Now I'm just making own. Make

39:14

sure that company about that. I think it was

39:16

trip, but it was very, very late. I think

39:18

it was Trent. Nelson would say nah, nah, there

39:20

were other councils. Mike, you're ignoring other councils with

39:22

it. If you look at the books, not just

39:24

the names of the books, but what they meant

39:26

by those names, you realize it doesn't actually match.

39:28

Totally. Yesterday. Been

39:30

debate over these issues that not should be

39:32

a surprise people debated still today. I

39:35

think we can be settled and confident about it

39:37

personally. I'll link my video below where I talk

39:39

about how we got our Old Testament. That at

39:41

least my. Effort to do that. Others

39:43

I'm sure if done a better job at it, but it's

39:45

something I can give you for free. Number

39:48

for Irina says I struggled reading word

39:50

for word translations like the yes V.

39:52

I love the in Lt for it's

39:54

simple vocab and how easy to understand

39:57

is an unwise you lt to memorize

39:59

and stuff. The Ps. I senior vid

40:01

on translations. Yeah, I'm I do not

40:03

think it's unwise to the new living

40:05

translation. I am especially for you.

40:08

Who says this is Hop? Here's the thing

40:10

you want to go. Word for word, more

40:12

seal understand things better. But. If for

40:14

you, word for word makes you understand it the

40:17

less. Is. Backfiring like this planet

40:19

work. And let me given an example.

40:21

extreme example: The

40:23

best way to stay the Old Testament is just

40:25

read the Hebrew. But.

40:27

That's gonna backfire for me cause I can't

40:29

just read Hebrew sister, just open up. The

40:31

humans are read and understand. It's so the

40:33

best way would actually be for me, a

40:35

very bad way. If you

40:38

have a hard time understanding it's a given

40:40

translation, do with get a different went for

40:42

sure go with Lt. I'm here's my what

40:44

I would caution you. Know

40:48

translations one hundred percent perfect and

40:50

stuff the in else he does

40:52

offer more interpretation. In

40:54

a translation than some others will. I.

40:56

Kinda like it when I tend his i'm

40:59

reading ago I affirm that interpretation. I

41:01

think that was accurate, but you're still. Getting.

41:04

The into more interpretation a do with some

41:06

other translations all of them separate to degree

41:08

the have to that's part of translating but.

41:11

You want people to be transparent about ambiguities and went

41:13

when averse it. it is unclear what it means. they

41:15

know she's probably gonna make it clear he and if

41:17

it is a little unclear. To. Others. So

41:20

here's a couple of caveats. I'm if you come up

41:23

with something that you think whoa, that's an insight no

41:25

one's and always had or I haven't heard before and

41:27

I'll arnold sounds like a like asked, really cool, a

41:29

special and unique. Double check it

41:31

with other simulations. Anytime

41:33

you have you question I wonder if

41:35

this is this translation. Or. If

41:38

I'm understanding, you use others to

41:40

supplement you. Double check Check the

41:42

Se check the any T check

41:44

Other translations I'm. That's

41:46

a healthy thing to do that's gonna be

41:48

bring benefit to you so don't exclusively used

41:50

and Lt but from your situation I'd say

41:52

primarily using it probably sounds like a smart

41:55

option for real. number

41:57

five gigawatts says hi mike

42:01

thoughts on first Corinthians 6 19 I hear

42:03

people use the scripture to call anything they

42:05

don't like sin tattoos

42:08

drugs junk food etc but it seems

42:10

it's mostly about sexual immorality let's

42:13

dig into this first Corinthians chapter

42:15

6 19 I think it was yep 6

42:17

19 or

42:22

do you not know that your body is a temple

42:24

of the holy spirit within you who you have from God

42:26

you are not your own for you were bought with

42:28

a price so glorify God in your body yeah I've

42:31

heard this used a lot actually I think I've

42:34

never heard it quoted more than in reference to

42:36

tattoos I

42:41

think I've heard it in reference to tattoos you

42:43

know the great way to understand a verse like

42:45

this is to just back up and read a

42:48

bunch of this chapter let's

42:51

start with verse one I can read the whole chapter here

42:54

and those of you are like excited yeah let's read

42:57

the whole chapter that those are you're my people that's

42:59

right we see eye to eye all right first

43:01

Corinthians chapter six verse one um

43:05

this is just to get context when one

43:07

of you has a grievance against another does he dare

43:09

to go to law before the unrighteous instead of the

43:11

saints or do you not know that the saints will

43:13

judge the world and if the world is to be

43:15

judged by you are you incompetent to try trivial cases

43:18

do you not know that we are to judge angels

43:20

how much more than matters pertaining to this life so

43:22

if you have such cases why do you lay them before those

43:24

who have no standing in your church I

43:26

say this to your shame can it be that

43:29

there is no one among you wise enough to

43:31

settle a dispute between the brothers but brother goes

43:33

to law against brother and that before

43:35

unbelievers to have lawsuits at all with

43:37

one another is already a defeat for

43:39

you why not rather suffer wrong why

43:41

not rather be defrauded but you yourselves

43:43

wrong and defraud even your own brothers

43:46

do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit

43:48

the kingdom of God before I go there I'll mention

43:50

this makes me think about the whole Benihan situation I

43:53

got going on there's a chance that something will lead

43:55

to a lawsuit not not from me suing him but

43:57

from him trying to sue me I would

43:59

be One of the first things I do

44:01

is say, hey, let's see if we can find a believer

44:03

to arbitrate this dispute and discuss it. I

44:06

don't know if they would agree or if we'd

44:08

be able to find a legit solid believer or

44:11

if it would just be a binyan plant. I'm

44:13

just being honest with you guys. But

44:15

I would prefer that option if

44:17

it went to that point. We'll

44:20

see. So verse

44:23

9, or do you not know that the unrighteous

44:25

will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not

44:27

be deceived, neither the sexually immoral. Now

44:29

here's a list that we should pay attention to. Sexually

44:32

immoral, that's a broad statement of sexual immorality.

44:34

That's any kind of sex

44:36

thing that is not moral.

44:40

That's a huge category. Nor idolaters,

44:43

nor adulterers. Now

44:45

to prove that sexual immorality is a broad

44:47

ranging idea, he specifically

44:49

mentions adulterers separately. Nor

44:52

men who practice homosexuality separately.

44:54

So it's really a very broad idea there.

44:58

Sexual sin is a huge issue in human nature. Our

45:00

culture doesn't realize it. We don't realize that sex

45:02

is sacred. It's a wonderful, beautiful, sacred, special thing.

45:05

You don't do that with it. You don't do

45:07

this with it. You just do what God designed

45:09

it for and then it's wonderful and to be

45:11

celebrated and enjoyed and all that good

45:13

stuff. Sorry, I'm

45:15

getting a text from my

45:17

assistant which means something's probably wrong. She

45:21

said verse 19. Yes,

45:25

I'm getting there. I'm just getting there slowly. Nor

45:30

thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkers, nor revilers,

45:32

nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

45:36

All that stuff. Even

45:38

greedy. Such were

45:40

some of you, but you were washed, you were sanctified,

45:43

you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus

45:45

Christ by the Spirit of our God. So these are

45:47

sins that were on you, the ick of these sins

45:49

were on you and you were washed and you were

45:51

sanctified. Remember this because later we'll get

45:53

to like the verse in verse 19 that talks about

45:55

glorifying God with your body. I

45:57

think he's referring to these things. glorify

46:00

God with your body. You were washed, you were sanctified.

46:02

So some of these things are probably included in that

46:04

glorify God with your body. It's like you're not going

46:06

to do this stuff. That's like all

46:08

of the above. Tattoo is not on the list, by the way. Verse

46:12

12, all

46:16

things are lawful for me, you might say. It's funny that

46:18

this question comes up, and I just was talking about this

46:20

in question one. But not all things are helpful. Yeah,

46:24

you can do that stuff. Like drinking is

46:27

lawful for a Christian to do, but is it helpful?

46:29

Is your drinking habit helpful? Is it

46:31

bringing help to your life or harm to your life? Let's

46:33

ask those questions too, because it's not just

46:35

about what I'm technically allowed to do. It's

46:37

about honoring God with my body. All

46:40

things are lawful for me, sure, but I

46:42

won't be dominated by anything. The thing I'm

46:44

doing, becoming an addiction, there's people like, let's

46:46

take tattoos, who are like addicted

46:48

to tattoos, and they start, and it really

46:50

is an unhealthy habit. Whether I'm supposed to

46:52

say that or not by a culture standards,

46:54

I don't care. Our culture standards

46:56

are wrong. We should say the things that

46:59

bother the culture sometimes, for

47:02

their own sake, to help them realize it. So yeah, I don't want

47:04

to be dominated by those things.

47:06

It's not helpful. Kids asked

47:08

me about getting tattoos, teens, as a youth

47:11

pastor, and my recommendation was, you

47:14

know, if you do decide to get one, get

47:17

one where you can easily cover it up. Why

47:19

would I say that? Because it

47:21

may not be helpful. You're

47:23

like, well, I don't, you're 18, and you're thinking, I

47:25

don't care. I don't need the

47:27

kind of job that doesn't want me to have a tattoo that's

47:29

invisible. I don't care about that job. And I'm like, no, you're

47:31

just sort of short-sighted. Most

47:34

of us are doing things we didn't think we do when we were 18, right? You

47:36

know, at an older age. You're like, it's

47:39

probably not helpful to do that. Well,

47:42

my grandma hates tattoos. I'm going to get it anyway. She

47:44

said she'll never talk to me again. Well, that doesn't seem

47:46

very helpful to your

47:48

life. It's not very helpful. There's a good reason not

47:50

to. That has nothing to do with saying that they're inherently sinful.

47:53

And I have a video on tattoos. I'll link below. I don't

47:55

mean to talk too much about that. I'm just trying to find

47:57

examples to apply. I'll link my video below that talks about it

47:59

more detail. Food

48:01

is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food. That's

48:04

the quote. Paul is like, yeah, but God is going to destroy both

48:06

one and the other. So, yes,

48:09

you don't just look at it. I'm just going to be

48:11

sort of a glutton because food, this is what food is

48:13

for. It's meant to make me feel good and enjoy it.

48:15

Yes, but you have a responsibility to God that trumps all

48:17

those things. The body,

48:19

remember Honor God with your body? The

48:22

body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for

48:24

the Lord and the Lord for the body. And

48:27

God raised the Lord and will also raise

48:29

us up by his power. This is like

48:31

a deeply theological statement here about your body

48:33

has theological importance. It's not just the ...

48:35

Okay, the Bible uses the word the flesh.

48:38

It doesn't mean all your physical body is

48:40

evil. The flesh refers to like our sinful

48:42

desires that are associated with this world, with

48:44

our unsaved state. That's

48:47

what it means. It doesn't mean your

48:49

physical body is bad. It's

48:51

corrupted, but its corruption will be ...

48:53

It'll be remade. And so this is super neat because

48:55

the body is something that God has made that he

48:58

made to be good. It's corrupted and

49:00

he's going to raise it up, raise up

49:02

your body just like he raised up Jesus'

49:04

body. This body

49:06

will be remade, but it will

49:08

be this body and I will serve and live for

49:10

the Lord for eternity in this body. So I want

49:12

to live out all that I do in the things

49:14

I say, in the places I go, in the things

49:17

I touch, in the stuff I do with my body.

49:19

I want to honor God. I want to

49:21

honor God. So

49:23

it's bigger than tattoos.

49:27

And verse 14, do you not

49:30

know that your bodies are members of Christ? The

49:32

importance of the body of the human body

49:34

is big. In church history, they've often devalued the

49:37

human body. They've often thought it was pious

49:39

to think less of human

49:41

bodies. The Bible teaches us to

49:43

think more of the human body, not to think

49:45

that your body's inherently holy. Like I said, it

49:47

has corruption, but to think very highly of its

49:50

value and of its importance. Do

49:52

you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Well

49:54

I then take the members of Christ and make

49:57

them members of a prostitute when you sleep with

49:59

a prostitute. You're taking the

50:01

body that belongs to Jesus and you're doing that with

50:03

it. That's the context. Never.

50:05

Or do you not know that he who's joined

50:08

to a prostitute becomes one body with her, for

50:10

as it is written, the two will become one

50:12

flesh. This is the theology of the physical body.

50:14

It's actually really important stuff we missed today. But

50:17

he who's joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him.

50:20

Flea from sexual immorality. Every other sin a

50:22

person commits is outside the body, but the

50:24

sexual immoral person sins against his own body.

50:27

In verse 19, or do you not know

50:29

that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you

50:32

whom you have from God. You're not your

50:34

own. You were bought with a price. Imagine

50:36

the price Jesus paid for you. So glorify

50:38

God in your body. The primary application is

50:40

sexual immorality in this verse. All that being

50:42

said, sexual immorality is the

50:44

number one application of honoring God with your

50:46

body. There's other applications he

50:49

mentioned earlier, greed and drunkenness and all

50:51

that stuff. It's all those

50:53

things. That's the major application. Now back

50:55

to your question right here,

50:57

Gilwa. You said, I hear

50:59

people use the scripture to call anything they

51:01

don't like sin, tattoos, drugs, junk food, et

51:04

cetera. Junk food in

51:06

moderation is not sin, but

51:09

excess, gluttony, abuse

51:12

is not helpful for me. It's harmful to my health. It's

51:15

got me under its power because that's the gluttony thing. Nope,

51:19

not okay. Honor God with your

51:21

body could apply to junk food depending. Tattoos,

51:24

inherently you lose sobriety when you take

51:26

certain drugs. Drugs that

51:28

cause you to lose a sober

51:30

mind, even drinking to the

51:32

point of being intoxicated, those things

51:34

are a loss of sobriety. That's something the Bible is very

51:37

clear about. That's where you're

51:39

under its power and it's not healthy for you, as I said

51:41

earlier in First Corinthians, sex. So

51:43

it can apply to those things. Tattoos I think

51:45

are in the same category. They're not inherently bad,

51:47

just like alcohol is not inherently bad, just like drugs

51:49

are not inherently bad. Now you might be thinking, so

51:52

I can do some cocaine. No, no, no, I didn't

51:54

say cocaine. I said drugs. You

51:56

could take a headache medicine or you could even

51:59

go under anesthesia. These certain

52:01

circumstances anesthesia talk about not being sober

52:03

minded you're unconscious, but that's a healthy

52:05

understandable medical use Real

52:07

medical use not a my back hurts. I got a license

52:09

for this That's yeah, your fake

52:11

medical stuff is not fooling anybody real

52:14

medical stuff legitimate uses of drugs Nomidicinal

52:19

non legitimate uses of drugs

52:21

that then gets you intoxicated cause

52:24

you lose your sobriety Are physically unhealthy for

52:26

you or put you into bondage to that

52:28

thing that's all off the table for Christians

52:30

So it can apply to those things, but

52:32

it is number one about sexual immorality

52:36

Number six Liberty Lisa, can

52:39

you explain Genesis 5 1 through 3? Why is

52:41

it different with the birth of Seth? Are we

52:43

still God's image bearers? Thanks for all you do

52:46

binged on your four-hour video. Oh cool That was

52:48

probably the benny hand video given when your comments

52:51

coming in here Liberty Lisa, so I'm glad you

52:53

did Let's look at Genesis 5 1 through 3

53:01

This is the book of the generations of Adam

53:03

when God created man He made him in the

53:05

likeness of God male and female He created them

53:07

and he blessed them and named them man when

53:10

they were created when Adam had lived 130 years

53:13

He fathered a son in his own

53:15

likeness after his image and named him

53:17

Seth Why

53:20

is Seth said to be in the image of

53:22

Adam and not in the image of God I

53:25

think it's Let

53:28

me read it to you if it would if it said it the other way

53:30

around If it said that Seth

53:33

was in the image of God Let me read it to you that

53:35

way and tell me how you are at least think about how you

53:37

think This would land with you. What theology would

53:39

you be learning if the Bible had written it differently? I'll

53:42

just read it and I'll just see if I can make up

53:44

the verse in this alternate wrong

53:46

way just for a thought exercise So

53:49

when God created man, he made him in the likeness

53:51

of God male and female He created them he blessed

53:53

them and named the man when they were created when

53:55

Adam had lived 130 years He

53:57

fathered a son in the likeness of God after

54:01

God's image and named him Seth. It

54:04

would hit different, right? It would affirm

54:07

that Seth was in God's image, but it would

54:09

also affirm something maybe more than that. It

54:12

would almost affirm that Adam was actually God, that

54:15

God had made another God called man

54:18

and that man had then made something that was also

54:20

the same as God. And

54:22

so that we're just sort of like God's duplicating

54:24

himself. That would, it would be, we'd be open

54:26

to that interpretation. Now we

54:28

know that in Genesis, God

54:31

continues to affirm that even Seth and everyone who

54:33

comes after Adam is still in the image of

54:35

God. Let me see if I can find the

54:37

verse. Here, I'll, while

54:39

I'm scrolling fast, I don't want to make your eyes bleed.

54:43

In

54:45

Genesis

54:48

nine.

54:51

Yeah.

54:56

So from

55:00

verse five of Genesis nine, for your life blood, I

55:02

will require a reckoning from every beast.

55:04

I will require it. And from man, from his fellow

55:06

man, I will require a reckoning for the life of

55:08

a man. This is about the death penalty for people

55:10

who commit murder. Whoever sheds the

55:13

blood of man by man, his blood will

55:15

be shed for God made man in his

55:17

own image. So this man

55:19

can't just be in reference to Adam. It

55:22

has to be in reference to the, to the man whose

55:25

blood was shed. Otherwise the verse doesn't make any sense.

55:27

It uses the word man three times. It's the same

55:29

kind of being every three, every

55:32

all three times. Man is

55:34

still in the image of God. Even after the fall,

55:36

even after the flood, man is still in the image

55:38

of God and it's the basis for the death penalty

55:40

for people who commit murder. So

55:45

yeah, it's that is definitely in God's image

55:47

in the sense that Adam was, but when

55:49

Adam pre-produces Seth and Seth is in his

55:51

own image, it sort of affirms a separation

55:53

between Adam and God, right? Adam's not a

55:55

new God. He's, he's a man who's made

55:57

in God's image and he produces another man.

56:00

not a God being. I think

56:03

that's how I would explain it and

56:06

I hope that's right you guys can think about it. Obese

56:11

Koala has a question. Crazy

56:14

YouTube name. What are your thoughts on

56:17

deja vu and are there any

56:19

examples in the Bible? What are

56:21

your thoughts on deja vu and are there any

56:23

examples in the Bible? See what I

56:25

did there? I only

56:27

entertain myself when I've done. I've

56:30

definitely had times, Obese Koala

56:32

says, where I had the feeling

56:34

of being somewhere before when it

56:36

was the first time being there.

56:39

Yeah, I can only

56:41

speak to my own experience of deja vu in my

56:43

life, what we call deja vu and here's how it

56:45

is for me. I

56:48

used to get it all the time. It's

56:50

very rare now for whatever reason. I used

56:53

to have it all the time, especially when I was young. I

56:55

would get this really strong sense that everything that

56:57

was happening was something that happened in the past.

57:01

I was a superstitious young

57:03

guy and I wasn't really grounded

57:06

in scripture. Was I

57:08

saved? I don't remember how old I was. I was very

57:10

young. I remember I

57:12

did an experiment because this is just the way

57:14

my brain works. I did an experiment where I

57:16

thought when this happens, I want to

57:18

know if I'm remembering am I predicting the future? I know what's

57:20

going to happen before it happens or am I just like memories

57:23

that are happening in the moment are getting stuck in

57:25

the wrong part of my brain. They feel like not

57:29

new memories, but they feel like old memories. How

57:31

would I know? I did

57:33

my little experiment which was the next time it happens, I'm

57:35

going to try and predict what's about to happen. I'm

57:38

going to try and in the moment think, okay, I'm feeling

57:40

that sense of deja vu. What's about to happen next? Is

57:43

it a red car is going to drive by? Is it

57:45

someone's going to come out and tell me to come in

57:47

for dinner? What's going to happen? I

57:49

was never able to do that. I

57:51

couldn't predict what would happen next, but whatever

57:53

happened next, I felt like I already knew

57:55

it was going to happen even though I couldn't predict it. To

57:58

me, this was confirmation that deja vu at least in my mind. in

58:00

my case was just like

58:02

a memory getting stuck in the wrong spot, you know,

58:04

something feeling old when it was really new. And

58:07

that was enough for me. There's

58:10

people who I've heard say, no, I can predict stuff.

58:12

And I mean, I admit I'm skeptical that you really

58:14

can. I like to see

58:16

it happen. Maybe you could. It's possible. I'm

58:18

just saying I'm skeptical. And my own experience makes me kind

58:21

of skeptical about that because my experience of what you're describing

58:23

doesn't work that way. Deja

58:25

Vu is,

58:28

my guess is it's just a weird anomaly, something that

58:30

happens with how we process our memories

58:32

or something like that. It

58:36

could also be that you're remembering something

58:38

that happened that was similar to this event, something's happening

58:40

that's reminding you of something from your past. And it's

58:42

not the same, but it feels like a memory. That

58:44

could even be an explanation. I don't know. Is

58:47

it prophetic? Is it from God? I don't

58:49

think so. I don't believe so. I think

58:51

that when prophecy happens and when something God's

58:53

revealing something, it's not like this sort of

58:55

cutesy little like, I knew that that TV

58:58

was going to turn off. I mean, it's

59:00

not like that. You know what I mean? That

59:04

seems kind of petty and weak and no

59:07

reason to tie it to God. And people all around

59:09

the world talk about it, so I wouldn't

59:11

have a reason to think it was somehow connected to the work of the

59:13

Holy Spirit in regards to

59:15

some gifting or some work of God.

59:18

I think we should probably move away

59:20

from the superstitious understanding of

59:22

that. Okay, that's all my

59:24

opinion. That's my two cents. What does scripture say about

59:26

Deja Vu? It says specifically

59:29

that God is the one who can predict

59:31

the future and that that is a divine

59:33

attribute, a divine quality. It's

59:35

actually a really big deal. In the book of

59:38

Isaiah, when God talks about his ability to predict the

59:40

future, I declare a thing that has not

59:42

yet happened and then it comes to pass. And

59:44

then he's like, no one else can do this. Who

59:46

else can do this? Who among the gods, the false gods can

59:48

do this? Nobody. I

59:52

do this. True prophecy, true

59:54

prophecy, and by which I

59:56

mean supernatural foreknowledge, not causation

59:58

where I say... I will

1:00:00

stop the stream at 241 and

1:00:03

then I stopped the stream at 240. That's not prophecy I'm just

1:00:05

predicting what I'm gonna do, but real prophecy

1:00:07

divine supernatural prophecy This seems to be something

1:00:09

only God does like Satan doesn't do it.

1:00:12

He can try to orchestrate events He could say something's gonna

1:00:14

happen and make it happen and it would look like prophecy,

1:00:16

but it would be false I'm

1:00:18

talking about true prophecy Where where

1:00:21

God is not just able to force

1:00:23

an event to happen but in full

1:00:25

knowledge and control of all future

1:00:27

events I

1:00:30

feel like I said that in a clumsy way, but I think you get the main

1:00:32

point I probably reward it to be

1:00:34

more careful because I'm thinking of well actually

1:00:36

probably she said anyway That's

1:00:39

a special thing that God does so for people to

1:00:41

walk around thinking I just sort of know the future

1:00:43

randomly and it's not God

1:00:45

and it's it's a it's sort of

1:00:47

purposeless this does not seem consistent with

1:00:50

that biblical concept that Prophecy

1:00:53

is is in

1:00:55

the sense of future predicting Is

1:00:58

something that is divine? um So

1:01:01

I reject a job. Alright number eight. Hey

1:01:04

Mike, this is from CE. Hey Mike, could you

1:01:06

talk a little on what is not? gluttony

1:01:10

Is it just eating more than what

1:01:12

you need or is there more involved

1:01:14

eating challenges? Oh, that's an interesting question

1:01:16

because the internet's blowing up with these

1:01:18

eating challenges right now people eating Massive

1:01:21

quantities of food and then it gets complicated

1:01:23

because some of them I've seen these okay

1:01:25

some of them anyways Some

1:01:28

of these are these like they call mukbang

1:01:30

or mukbang. I can't do the the accent

1:01:32

well, but mukbang videos where somebody Stuffs

1:01:35

themselves and in many cases they're

1:01:37

eating excessively for no reason really bad food

1:01:39

many cases just spitting the food out It's

1:01:41

fake. They're not really eat. You know, you

1:01:43

don't actually see them Swallowing

1:01:46

and eating and these videos are gross to me But

1:01:49

then there's like this sort of more on the morning

1:01:51

the kind of I don't know girls like watching those

1:01:53

videos more I don't know why but seems to be

1:01:55

the case and then guys like watching the videos where

1:01:57

it's like Competitive eaters going into like restaurants. I have

1:01:59

to eat just 7,000 pound burger and

1:02:01

doing that kind of stuff and

1:02:03

these guys some of them are overweight and unhealthy and

1:02:05

you're like you're gonna die of a heart attack that

1:02:07

would obviously be a sinful practice for them What about

1:02:09

the guy who like fasts all the time and then

1:02:12

he just has one giant meal and you're like you

1:02:14

sort of ate the Same amount of food. You just

1:02:16

did it in one sitting made a video about it

1:02:18

put it online Were you able to

1:02:20

make a career out of that? But

1:02:23

you fasted and then and then feasted but

1:02:25

it balanced out so that you're actually healthy

1:02:29

Okay, I wouldn't come against that

1:02:31

personally that wouldn't seem like gluttony to me. I also

1:02:35

would say that Occasional

1:02:38

overeating is not sin and

1:02:40

I think I have a biblical warrant for this because in Scripture

1:02:43

God tells the Israelites to He gives them

1:02:45

feasts feasts

1:02:48

and I

1:02:50

take occasional overeating. I don't mean like

1:02:52

psycho binge eating where you

1:02:54

eat so much You're like something's wrong inside

1:02:56

my body But I mean you eat

1:02:59

more than you need and you enjoy it and you have a good

1:03:01

time You have like a Thanksgiving meal and you kind of get stuffed

1:03:03

and you're sort of laying there like a little zone it out But

1:03:06

if you do this on a regular basis, then it's

1:03:08

a habit of behavior that itself is unhealthy So

1:03:10

God gives the Israelites feasts It seems as

1:03:12

though they probably would eat pretty good portions

1:03:14

in those in those moments But

1:03:16

that if they did it all the time

1:03:19

that gluttony unlike drunken like drunkenness don't get

1:03:21

drunk period gluttony It seems to me. It's

1:03:23

not just don't overeat ever It

1:03:26

seems as though it's more like don't overeat frequently

1:03:29

and Let's say you eat

1:03:31

a whole lot one day then you eat less the next day

1:03:33

and you try to balance this out so that you're not Getting

1:03:35

obese. It's you know, it's very unhealthy

1:03:37

to be obese It

1:03:40

will shorten your life it will add to tons and tons of

1:03:42

medical problems in your life the Physical

1:03:46

shame a lot of people when they're overweight

1:03:48

that they're upset about the the appearance and

1:03:50

the shame that they feel from others I'm

1:03:52

not really interested in casting a bunch of

1:03:54

shame. It's it's kind of weird that being

1:03:56

overweight is so Like somebody

1:03:58

could be doing all kinds of stuff sins in

1:04:00

the closet that nobody would know about, but the

1:04:02

person who's overweight, everywhere they go, everybody knows. And

1:04:04

that's like this weird imbalance. And so a spotlight

1:04:06

seems to be on them in a way that's

1:04:08

unhealthy, that's hurtful, all that stuff. But

1:04:11

the practice itself of overeating and becoming

1:04:13

very unhealthy and physically like super

1:04:17

fat, to be honest, is

1:04:20

definitely something that is a sinful,

1:04:22

compromised thing. It's not the same

1:04:24

as someone who beats their child.

1:04:26

Okay, that's worse. But it is something

1:04:28

that is like, that's not godly, that's not healthy. And

1:04:31

gluttony is called out as a specific sin in the

1:04:33

Bible. Now I have not done a full study on

1:04:35

gluttony. Here's what I'd like to do. And I don't

1:04:37

know when on, please don't take this as an announcement.

1:04:39

It may not happen for years. I don't know. I

1:04:42

have so many things I want to do. If I told you everything, your head would spin.

1:04:45

All the things I'd like to do. I'd

1:04:48

love to do a study on gluttony where I go into the

1:04:50

first century documents and the old older stuff

1:04:52

than that even, and look at where they use the

1:04:54

word gluttony and how they describe it so that I

1:04:56

understand really in a robust fashion, what

1:04:58

did the Bible mean when it said gluttony? What

1:05:00

I've done here is I've just offered a few insights. The

1:05:03

first Corinthians six passage we referenced today, which by

1:05:05

God's grace has come up multiple times. I

1:05:07

can just refer to it now.

1:05:09

Is this eating healthy for me? Right? Not

1:05:12

all things are helpful. Is this healthy? Are

1:05:14

my eating habits healthy? That's important. Right? Because

1:05:17

the body does matter. Read all of first Corinthians six again. The

1:05:19

body really does matter. Okay. Is

1:05:21

it healthy? Number two, is it bringing me under

1:05:23

its power? Am I showing addictive food behaviors? Then

1:05:26

I need to back off and don't lose, don't get

1:05:28

discouraged. Don't you dare. That keeps you

1:05:30

trapped in this stuff. You need

1:05:32

to get encouraged in what the

1:05:35

proper use of food

1:05:37

is and know where proper enjoyment can

1:05:39

be and proper restraint can be and

1:05:41

work on that. So

1:05:44

the unhealthiness of it, the power that can bring

1:05:46

you under the fact that the Bible really explicitly

1:05:48

calls out gluttony as a specific sin, even in

1:05:50

first Corinthians six where it says your body belongs

1:05:52

to the Lord. That's

1:05:55

a big deal. So there

1:05:57

were things like Roman feasts where people would.

1:06:00

shove a bunch of food in their mouth and throw up,

1:06:02

binge and purge so they could eat more. That

1:06:05

would seem to obviously be

1:06:07

classed as gluttony. But someone

1:06:09

who goes to Thanksgiving and they eat more than usual that day

1:06:11

and then like the next day they're like, I'm gonna lay off

1:06:13

the calories today to try to balance things out. Like I don't

1:06:16

think that that is much of an issue. Unlike

1:06:18

drunkenness, where you can't be like, I'll just get totally

1:06:20

drunk Tuesday and Wednesday, I'll just be real sober all

1:06:23

day and that'll balance it out. Like that's not how

1:06:25

it works. So

1:06:28

yeah, more should be said on this.

1:06:30

I know gluttony is a massive problem

1:06:32

in the church, especially the Western world

1:06:34

where we have such free access to

1:06:36

such unhealthy food and low

1:06:39

nutrition, high calorie products. It's

1:06:43

a big issue, right? I'm just not

1:06:45

capable of tackling every issue in the world. It needs to

1:06:47

be addressed. One day I'd love to. I'm

1:06:50

not afraid to talk about it. I just don't want to misspeak,

1:06:52

so I don't want to say too much. I

1:06:55

hope that helps someone. All right. Bear oven says,

1:06:59

how do I know when my competitiveness is sinful?

1:07:01

I coach baseball and want to ensure. Oh, let

1:07:03

me back up. One more thing on gluttony. Scripture

1:07:06

says, this is in the back of my head

1:07:08

here. Scripture says multiple times, things about God giving

1:07:10

them like a land flowing with milk and honey.

1:07:13

These are, these are sweets, right? Honey. That's just

1:07:15

like, you don't need that nutritionally really. It is

1:07:17

like sugar. He's like, I'm giving you

1:07:19

a land with sugar. Okay. It's not bad

1:07:21

to enjoy sweets and good food. That's not what I'm

1:07:23

saying. Um, he gives them all,

1:07:27

there's all sorts of texts in scripture that talk about

1:07:29

like good food and enjoyable things

1:07:31

to eat. So food is meant to be

1:07:33

enjoyable. It's meant to be something good. It

1:07:35

just don't want it to turn into something sinful.

1:07:38

So I'm saying number nine, bear

1:07:40

oven. How do I know

1:07:42

when my competitiveness is sinful? I

1:07:44

coach baseball and want to ensure I'm providing

1:07:46

the right model of competition for the players

1:07:48

while also still being as competitive as possible.

1:07:50

That that's a big challenge. Bear oven. That's

1:07:53

a big challenge. So I don't know if I. have

1:08:00

the right answer for you. I'll give you some things

1:08:02

to think about and one of the things

1:08:04

that occurs to me is love is the

1:08:06

command for Christians to always be thinking of. And

1:08:10

if I lose the game, let's

1:08:13

say here's a scenario. Here's how I know

1:08:15

my competitiveness has gotten wrong. If I play

1:08:17

my best, I compete it at my highest

1:08:19

level. They competed and they beat

1:08:21

me and I'm bitter. Something

1:08:24

sinful has happened in my heart. I

1:08:28

understand feeling disappointed that my team will not

1:08:30

continue to go forward. But if that disappointment

1:08:33

is actually bitterness, anger, a sense

1:08:35

of entitlement that I deserve something I didn't get, that

1:08:37

kind of thing, wrath at

1:08:40

my other players, that kind of thing. That's

1:08:42

when competitiveness seems to have gone too far

1:08:44

because here's the thing. If I love the

1:08:46

other team, I can actually

1:08:48

celebrate their victory while I'm also bummed

1:08:50

out that I lost. And if I

1:08:52

can't celebrate their victory, if I can't

1:08:54

walk down and give them genuine handshake,

1:08:56

congratulations, good job, then

1:09:00

maybe that implies that my competitiveness has

1:09:02

become selfish. I'm not just trying to

1:09:04

do my best to perform because I

1:09:06

have high standards and I'm trying to

1:09:09

learn good character. There's something morally good

1:09:11

about working as hard as you can

1:09:13

to achieve something. It's

1:09:16

not just that. It's me wanting

1:09:19

more, more attention and more

1:09:22

like higher in the ranks for myself and it

1:09:24

becomes this sort of narcissistic thing. Instead of I

1:09:27

want to pull out of me all that I have to give,

1:09:29

I want to use my skills to

1:09:31

draw to me attention and glory and fame and

1:09:33

whatever else I want. That sense of

1:09:36

superiority over others. When

1:09:40

competitiveness ruins

1:09:43

my love for the people I'm competing with, that's

1:09:45

when it's become a sinful problem. I think it

1:09:47

would be my short answer

1:09:49

to that. Easier said than done.

1:09:52

I haven't coached. In youth ministry, we play

1:09:54

games and if I had a team and we're doing

1:09:56

games and my team would lose, I had another leader

1:09:58

who was always like, let's change. the teams up so

1:10:00

that they're even so that we can kind of have

1:10:02

like win last and that would work that wouldn't be

1:10:04

wrong. My tendency though if I

1:10:06

was on the losing team was like no no no

1:10:08

I want to teach him how to lose let's let's

1:10:10

have fun losing let's work and do as hard as

1:10:12

we can with you know whatever game we're playing zombie

1:10:15

tag or something let's do something and let's have

1:10:17

as much fun let's just work hard at it and

1:10:19

let's enjoy even if we lose and I thought that

1:10:21

that was a super valuable life lesson so it was

1:10:23

worth like like keeping

1:10:25

the losing team together anyway.

1:10:28

Alright question number 10 this is James

1:10:31

Burns who says I heard

1:10:33

that the word translated apostasy

1:10:35

in 2nd Corinthians 2

1:10:37

3 can also be translated as departed as

1:10:39

in the end will not come until the

1:10:41

departing or the rapture comes first do you

1:10:43

think this is true? Big question

1:10:48

for those of you who know that's like that's like a

1:10:50

big question a lot of stuff. Okay

1:10:55

I'm gonna give you a few thoughts on this I don't know

1:10:59

start off with a disappointing I don't

1:11:01

actually know the answer to this question not

1:11:03

for some some who watch me and you're maybe

1:11:05

a little more cynical you you're you're

1:11:07

perhaps thinking Mike says I don't know when he's

1:11:10

afraid to give his answer I never

1:11:12

do that ever if I

1:11:14

don't want to give an answer

1:11:16

because I don't like the impact it'll have I'll tell people

1:11:19

that I don't want to answer this question I don't think

1:11:21

it's gonna be helpful for people or something um when I

1:11:23

say I don't know I literally mean I don't know how

1:11:25

could I possibly give an answer when I don't know the

1:11:27

answer that would be rude

1:11:29

arrogant um hurtful to you I would

1:11:31

effectively be lying to you pretending I know things I don't

1:11:33

know. 2nd Thessalonians

1:11:36

2 3 let no one deceive

1:11:38

you in any way for the day will not come

1:11:40

that day will not come until

1:11:42

or unless the rebellion comes first and

1:11:44

the man of lawlessness is revealed the

1:11:46

son of destruction so that

1:11:49

word here is ESV has rebellion

1:11:51

look at it here in the new king James the

1:11:54

falling away comes first and

1:11:56

the man of sin is revealed here in the niv

1:11:58

that day will not come until The rebellion

1:12:00

it uses again. I'm

1:12:02

curious what the revised standard version does. The revised

1:12:04

standard is like, some people consider it really good.

1:12:06

It leans kind of liberal. That's

1:12:09

a really heavy term, but it kind of like

1:12:12

that in different ways in any way. Leans

1:12:15

kind of not modern wokeism, not like that, but

1:12:18

anyway. Unless

1:12:20

the rebellion comes first. So like maybe rebellion is

1:12:22

like a favorite term for a lot of these

1:12:25

translations. There

1:12:28

are some who would apply this to the rapture

1:12:31

and they would say it refers to something else.

1:12:33

I wonder, this is really hazardous. I'm going to

1:12:35

try it. If I could do a quick

1:12:40

look at the Greek. I usually take

1:12:42

a long time to look at this stuff. I have to, to be

1:12:44

careful with it. This

1:12:48

is a resource called VDAG. It's

1:12:51

basically considered a very reliable resource

1:12:54

on Greek and for

1:12:56

the New Testament in particular. So they study like these

1:12:58

terms used. So the word used in

1:13:00

the Greek is apostasia. Apostasia as

1:13:03

in apostate is our English

1:13:05

word that we kind of derived from this.

1:13:07

It doesn't mean that apostasia means apostate. That's

1:13:09

not what it means. But

1:13:11

the word here in the Greek is apostasia. The

1:13:14

one word in the New Testament I would affirm

1:13:16

is referring to an event where we're caught up

1:13:18

in the air to be with the Lord is

1:13:20

not, it's not the word rapturas or rapture. It's

1:13:22

the word harpazo in Greek. In

1:13:24

Latin it becomes rapturas and then that comes in

1:13:27

our English as rapture. Anyway,

1:13:29

apostasia here, a

1:13:31

form quotable since, and

1:13:33

it's, I

1:13:36

might have that book. Is

1:13:40

that Diodorus? Oh,

1:13:43

it doesn't matter. Okay, sorry. This is

1:13:45

what happens when I get distracted. Defiance

1:13:47

of established system or authority, rebellion, abandonment,

1:13:49

breach of faith. That

1:13:52

is the general definition given. Bdag

1:13:54

does not have a big entry here. It doesn't give

1:13:56

like, you know, use A, use B, use C, use

1:13:58

D. But it does

1:14:00

say this as the general

1:14:02

definition of the term and

1:14:05

let's see if it refers to

1:14:07

2 Thessalonians here, of the rebellion caused by the

1:14:09

lawless one in the last days, 2 Thessalonians

1:14:14

2.3, offering some context suggesting that basically

1:14:16

because 2 Thessalonians, we're back there now,

1:14:19

2 Thessalonians, that

1:14:21

they will not come unless the

1:14:24

rebellion comes first, the apostasy comes first, and

1:14:26

the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son

1:14:28

of destruction, that the

1:14:30

rebellion is associated with the man of

1:14:32

lawlessness, the man who is

1:14:34

lawless, the antichrist ultimately, he is

1:14:37

leading a rebellion and that's the

1:14:39

context of the verse. Okay, while

1:14:41

I don't know exactly what the

1:14:43

falling away is or the apostasia is, it

1:14:45

seems on a cursory examination, it's not likely

1:14:47

referring to a rapture, I would have to

1:14:49

have a really good case for this referring

1:14:51

to the rapture. I have to

1:14:53

admit this, the guy who's grown up with, I say

1:14:56

grown up, I didn't really get introduced

1:14:59

to the rapture theology until I was like

1:15:01

19, 20, but from that point on,

1:15:03

when I was really then

1:15:06

heavily involved in church, then

1:15:08

I was being taught that theology and I found, as

1:15:10

many of you have found, that some of the verses

1:15:13

that have been used to support the rapture, you look

1:15:15

at it closely and you go, that's not about the

1:15:17

rapture, it doesn't mean that the whole doctrine is wrong,

1:15:19

but that's not about the rapture, that's not about

1:15:21

the rapture, and that's happened to a number of those

1:15:23

verses and it unsettled me on that doctrine to the

1:15:25

point where I would say, I don't

1:15:28

know what I would

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say is going to be, I'm

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on the fence on the topic. One day, probably

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500 years from now, I'll do a video where I

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talk about it in detail and I have a whole little study project

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and I work on it and share everything. And

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the thing is, I know that that would go viral

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if I did a video on the rapture, I know it would. I

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don't care. I have

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a whole bunch of priorities in my mind that don't

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match everybody else's, forgive me if I

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don't produce the content that you're thinking I should. I

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have to juggle things to make decisions. Sometimes I spend a

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lot of time on a video. I know will not

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get that many views because I think it's important And

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then I don't do the rapture video, which I know would

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be viral instantly At

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any rate It's understandable why

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some people go some of these

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verses that we've heard used for this don't seem wrong

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Don't seem right at the same time at

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the same time that that idea that we're caught up

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in the air to meet the Lord That seems totally solid and

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that that's where I'm at on that the timing

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of when it happens completely on the

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fence on that Maybe

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leaning slightly Away

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from pre-trip to be honest. Okay. I said

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too much. Um, alright you guys. Thank

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you so much for being here I'd like to close this in

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prayer father. I pray for

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my brothers and sisters who care about eschatology and in

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times and the coming of Jesus and the timing of

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events like being Caught up in the air to be

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with the Lord I pray that

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you'd help us to have a gracious attitude towards one another That

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we would lovingly embrace each other in

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Christ when we disagree on secondary tertiary

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things that it's okay to talk about

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it Even even argue about it a little bit but in

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a gracious way. We pray that you'd help us to be

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one despite some of our

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different views about When

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the second coming is what the rapture

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is and when it happens Whether

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the tribulation is future or even sort of

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a past event. Um, we just pray that

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you'd help us to be loving and gracious

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To exhibit the unity that Jesus Christ has

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given us on those issues in Jesus name

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All right, y'all. Thank you for joining. See

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you next week where i'll be tackling. Oh check this out your

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preview I hope next

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week To for

1:17:32

the first question the q&a analyzed the question of

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what did Jesus mean when he said? To

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get swords. He told the disciples to buy swords. What

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did he mean by that? I've been studying this a

1:17:41

lot because i'm doing a little side project on pacifism

1:17:44

For something that's not going to go online any time

1:17:46

remotely soon. Um but

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uh But i'm studying that and the

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two sorts thing I devoted like a real study

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Season for this and I i'm going to share hopefully

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next week. I'll share some conclusions on that some different

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options on that And we'll

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talk about it. So Lord bless

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you. Have a good one