It’s a challenging time for nursing homes as staff try to keep themselves and patients safe during the pandemic. But the pandemic is doing something else — it’s also revealing the challenges these care facilities faced before, such as low staffing and not enough money.

Do you work in a nursing home or long-term care facility? Are you or a loved one a patient? What has changed since the novel coronavirus pandemic started? What’s going well, or what’s causing challenges?

Guest host Chris Farrell had a thoughtful conversation about those questions and the future of caregiving in our country with a researcher and a gerontologist.

Guests:

• Sheria Robinson-Lane is an assistant professor nursing and a gerontologist at the University of Michigan with expertise in palliative care, long-term care and nursing administration.

• Robyn Stone is co-director of the LeadingAge LTSS Center at the University of Massachusetts Boston and senior vice president of research at LeadingAge, a research and advocacy nonprofit.