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here or there, but. We're
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okay that's okay knows me really
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really do our best year as
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an hour and there's and trade
3:25
off to me being as the
3:27
finale one of which is I
3:29
might occasionally not be. As
3:33
business as. A
3:35
warrior to talk about. Thought about
3:37
and we're always. We're
3:40
here to argue about my dominant
3:42
draft when. Both. Files
3:44
to ah and on my team.
3:48
And the yeah I got America saver
3:50
can is there a player which I
3:52
feel. like i get fairly often
3:54
listen that's that's the easiest thing
3:56
in the world's to present everyone
3:59
our I still got it. Give me
4:01
credit. While
4:06
you're hearing her with us to
4:08
talk about this wild finale
4:10
is Melissa. How
4:13
are you doing Melissa? I'm doing great. That
4:15
really was a wild finale. I honestly thought
4:18
going into it, like we already know what's
4:20
going to happen here. Like this
4:22
finale is just kind of, we're
4:24
just going to go through it and that's all. But
4:27
when Anthony picked
4:29
Bailey to go to the final two, I
4:32
literally just sat there going, what, what,
4:36
what? Like out loud to the point
4:38
where Dennis was like, what's going on?
4:40
Like what's happening? It was like so
4:42
shocking. So, um, very exciting finale. Um,
4:45
yeah, what a wild ride. A
4:48
wild ride indeed. Also joining us.
4:52
It's Iman. Hey guys.
4:54
Happy to be back. Um,
4:56
yeah, was a very wild
4:58
ride tonight. Um, I'm
5:01
still sort of grappling with
5:03
it. I don't necessarily know how I
5:06
feel about it quite yet. Um, this
5:09
is a, yeah,
5:12
I feel like there's a lot to dissect. So I'm
5:15
happy to be on such a
5:17
tumultuous finale episode. Everybody can't do
5:19
that. So happy to be back.
5:21
Thank you guys for those that are staying up on
5:23
the East coast to watch us talk
5:25
about everything tonight. So this will be a good
5:27
one. I'm excited. Yes. I totally agree
5:29
with the one though. Like I, I don't know
5:32
how I feel really about it. Like, I feel
5:34
like it was really exciting, but like, I
5:36
feel like I wanted both of them
5:39
to win. And so I was kind
5:41
of just like, like, and I
5:43
don't know, I feel like Bailey
5:45
deserved the win. She had amazing
5:47
answers, amazing speech, everything. Like
5:49
it was leading towards the wind.
5:52
She was the underdog. It was
5:54
very exciting, but at the same
5:56
time Anthony played such a dominant
5:58
game the entire time. And,
6:00
you know, he had a great speech as well.
6:02
And just to like, see it kind of all
6:05
fall apart at the end was just like, it
6:07
was devastating. You could see in his face that
6:09
he was like, I made the wrong choice. Like,
6:12
oh my God, like, as it started to kind
6:14
of come together. And I just, I just felt
6:16
for him. I really, I really do love Anthony.
6:18
And so it was really, it was
6:20
tough. I don't know, like,
6:23
I'm very happy, but I also am
6:25
also feeling for Anthony and feeling sad.
6:27
So I'm like, I don't know. I'm
6:29
both. Yeah. I
6:32
mean, I think for me, one of the
6:35
biggest questions of the night is how would
6:37
Anthony have actually fared against
6:39
Lexus? I think
6:41
undeniably, it's, he has a
6:43
much better shot, but
6:46
I'm not convinced that he
6:48
doesn't still lose. And
6:52
and I think, you know, it's we're gonna have to find
6:54
out from from the jury. But yes, I
6:56
mean, huge moments. The HOH
6:58
was extremely dramatic,
7:00
the final part three. And
7:03
then the big shot, I mean, the
7:06
room erupted when he took Bailey. There
7:08
were a lot of Bailey fans, a
7:10
lot of lot of people in the
7:13
audience. That level of screaming
7:15
was almost like it reminded me so
7:18
much of the double eviction
7:20
in BB can five when I
7:22
was like laying into
7:24
Netta and the entire audience
7:27
just like screamed I instantly was brought back
7:29
to that moment with that level of screaming. I was like, oh,
7:31
my God, like this is about to be
7:33
some shit. It
7:37
reminded me of Paris versus Kayla, where it
7:40
was like when Paris was talking about everybody
7:42
was just like, yeah, that's right. And when
7:44
Kayla was talking, it was like, no, we're
7:46
not we're not into this. Like the second
7:48
you hear that, you're like, oh, OK, I
7:51
know where this is going. And
7:53
I'm surprised that Anthony didn't like pick up on
7:55
some of that, because I feel like there was
7:57
some Noise like prior.
8:00
The to him making that decision like I
8:02
when they were giving the answers and Bailey
8:04
would get an answer right like isolate the
8:06
crowd would like so while and I don't
8:08
know how much of that they can hear
8:10
but if you can hear any of that
8:12
I feel like he probably should be thinking
8:14
to himself like. Weird
8:16
that every time she is an answer re
8:19
the crowd is like loving estimate them when
8:21
weeds I ever have has like I'm. So.
8:24
I don't know he will that. It was
8:26
very interesting. In the crowd I think definitely
8:28
plays a part in Big Brother Combat I'm
8:30
not and the really in the Us by
8:32
it's Awfully Big Brother Canada. Yeah.
8:35
For sure. For. Her since know
8:37
the honestly I feel like it
8:39
was such a like. I was
8:41
very pleasantly surprised with the finale
8:43
because I really did go into
8:45
it thinking it was a done
8:47
deal and Anthony I'd I'd be.
8:49
I honestly thought like okay Anthony
8:51
thirty one night What. Are we doing
8:53
here? And it's. To see a play
8:56
out this way it was just so surprising
8:58
and to see the fact that village the
9:00
boats were. And. Is I think everyone
9:02
felt betrayed by Anthony. I don't know
9:04
exactly where it all fell apart icily.
9:06
Everyone in the jury was a ceiling.
9:09
Some. Sort away about the way
9:11
that they went out. And
9:13
I don't know exactly like.
9:16
Is one move or like multiple moves was
9:18
the problem but I really as if you
9:20
may know where it fell apart like please
9:22
let me know because. I really don't now.
9:25
He. Has a was a I've I've
9:27
swapped over to my my phone
9:29
mobile hotspot to see if this
9:32
is any better than the food.
9:34
so I buy hopefully emitter the
9:36
and better. Will. Say listen
9:38
that snow the sorry state of affairs with a
9:41
social. Call
9:44
them out com. And
9:47
will hear his ears are also Devise
9:49
is obviously like I I I experienced
9:51
as a little bit differently than the
9:53
most people I was in the audience
9:55
I was actually. Like
9:57
right up in front, right next
9:59
to. The jury. May
10:01
and let me tell you I was
10:03
just watching them they'll hold a hand.
10:06
I was very curious to try to
10:08
to see allow like not only what
10:10
they were thinking but like how they
10:13
were thinking it and my perspective very
10:15
much was our first one was are
10:17
surprised. That. They did not
10:19
seem surprised. At Lexus being
10:22
evicted I thought they were going to
10:24
be like, really saw I thought, maybe
10:26
even elaborate. But.
10:29
They seem very dislike of that.
10:31
Ah, and that was either vibe
10:34
the whole time. I'm. Dead.
10:37
I'm. Very much got the
10:39
vibe that this was not. This.
10:42
Would not a change in plan by
10:44
and I don't think that surprising, But
10:46
like they very much knew what they
10:48
were doing, they rarely even like talks
10:50
to each other. There was a there
10:52
were a couple of exchanges between Tola
10:54
and Kale Ayatollah Avery, which were mostly
10:56
like. Me: yeah.
10:59
Like fist bumping like we're We're still.
11:01
I've been. Yes, we're So I've been.
11:05
The only person that I think might
11:07
have actually change their vote was Goose
11:10
who did seem to have like a
11:12
quizzical conversation briefly with Kayla. Ah and
11:14
then when boost cast his vote for
11:17
Anthony I saw toll a give like
11:19
a new like a confused face as
11:21
though he weren't He was innocent and
11:23
wasn't expecting Anthony both from Gustaf. ah
11:26
I'm not sure will have the As
11:28
Goose but or but the overall vibe
11:30
I would say is that they very
11:33
much came into this planning to vote
11:35
for. Not. Anthony met
11:37
and and every
11:40
time Bailey mentioned
11:42
loyalty, honesty, Avery
11:44
was like. Yes, Yes,
11:47
Yes, Yes yes. Don't
11:49
see their. i kind of like
11:51
a hastily where every time i imagine i
11:53
loved her thieves ice anytime soon as i
11:55
blaze of most loyalists game i played the
11:58
that like it was like Oh, I don't
12:00
know. For me, I'm like, I was the
12:02
most honest game. I
12:04
don't value that in a player, to be
12:06
honest. So I was kind of like, oh,
12:08
OK, like this is what we're going
12:10
with. But I think with
12:12
this jury, it certainly helped because
12:15
you could tell they were all
12:17
really upset that Anthony betrayed them.
12:19
So the idea that like, oh,
12:21
well, this other person who is
12:23
in the final two didn't betray
12:25
anyone and was true to her
12:27
word. Like, I love that. So
12:29
I think she was like really
12:31
playing it up for the crowd.
12:33
But yeah, it to me, it's
12:35
kind of like, OK, I don't
12:37
that doesn't really win any points with me like
12:40
I don't care about that. But the rest
12:42
of it, I love the king and the
12:44
queen, the chess analogy. I thought that was
12:46
excellent. I thought
12:48
her speech was delivered really well. It's
12:50
like really passionate. I thought like it
12:53
was so hard for Anthony to follow
12:55
that up. I think he did do a good
12:57
job with this speech, but it did feel maybe
12:59
less passionate than hers. It felt like he was
13:01
kind of just saying the words,
13:03
but hers felt like she really, truly wanted it
13:06
and believed it. And maybe at that point he
13:08
was kind of like he could see the writing
13:10
on the wall and was kind of I
13:13
mean, it's got to be hard to give like a
13:15
passionate speech after that, but yeah, yeah, I
13:17
don't know. I
13:20
think the jury just valued loyalty
13:22
above all, I guess. I
13:25
mean, I think I mean, all of the
13:27
people that are shouting out the parallels between this and
13:29
B.B. B.B. 19. I mean, I
13:31
think that there are definitely a lot of things that
13:33
we can compare it to. I think, you know, obviously
13:35
someone making it to the final two twice and losing
13:37
twice. There's that. I think it
13:39
being a vet versus a
13:42
newbie again, there's that. I think
13:44
with someone sort of already having known
13:46
to be sort of like more of
13:48
a dominant ish player. I don't know
13:51
if B.B. 18 Paul is
13:53
in the same vein as B.B. Ken
13:55
7 Anthony, but there's Still, like
13:57
a level of OK, there's some prestige here.
14:00
I'm coming into your second season whereas
14:02
like okay, Even if
14:04
he makes it, does anybody beat him
14:06
so that that conversation with definitely omnipresent
14:08
off the path like. Five.
14:10
Weeks doesn't It was deathly. A lot of
14:12
parallels there, but I do think that there's
14:15
Blake. I think
14:17
that. When it
14:19
comes to Anthony, I
14:22
don't know. His sleigh. He turned
14:24
up the juice. Quicken.
14:26
Us. In his second go
14:28
round in the same way that. Hall
14:31
did M B B Ninety Now of course
14:33
we can debate Paul be nineteen game in
14:35
all of it's monstrosity. A nastiness to
14:37
pick out. Both one.
14:39
Thing that all didn't believe nineteen
14:42
was see with balls the war.
14:44
He made sure that. All it
14:46
is ducks were in a row. He made sure that
14:48
this person was one of the this person was one
14:50
of the this person. was it like he created so
14:52
much to pay off in that in in his in
14:54
my house that he was always went from in on
14:57
top and I don't necessarily know if that is how
14:59
I would describe. Bb. Can swells
15:01
Anthony I feel like. Yes,
15:03
A lot of a lot of like the
15:05
lead worth that happened with this game in
15:07
the direction that was being scared when was
15:09
icy. And getting rid of her Yes,
15:11
like bird. the lions house on the wall.
15:14
But. At the same time. Is.
15:16
The rest of your game? interesting
15:18
enough or powerful enough to really.
15:21
Sway. This particular Juri. Because like
15:23
I said, Look.
15:26
Away with it at best and be been. I've
15:28
and another zola going like that but like I
15:30
think she was right you would like look there
15:33
is a thing of the bitter juror and I'm
15:35
a bit or juror and I don't think that
15:37
Anthony put that into account. The people were mad.
15:40
Or Mary Berry Mass the I had a bit
15:42
of a pop and with spicy I do because
15:44
I do feel a user but you won't have
15:46
any bearing. Still voted better. Sanlitun.
15:50
I don't know if I'm really asking would you
15:52
vote like that? Like I feel like I feel
15:54
like. The. Fact that Alija with
15:56
the only person to vote for him over you
15:58
that to me still for the live the other
16:01
way to me but. I think in
16:03
terms of everyone else like yeah I don't know
16:05
if you had the simulation ship with these jurors
16:07
that spicy did and so when you're a victim
16:09
spicy him and she goes into the house in
16:12
is ready to like Rials. I'm of the be
16:14
like oh yeah he betrayed you He betrayed me
16:16
to like yeah screw Anthony like. That.
16:18
Was that with a really really really.
16:22
I. Guess at this point insurmountable likes being
16:24
said to get over a so. It's
16:27
it's. A pizza Me as
16:30
like as as I was. I.
16:32
Was reminded so much of like why he
16:34
deserves to be in that final two and
16:36
why he did deserves to win the game
16:38
when he added final speech when he talked
16:40
about hobbies game isn't necessarily about just making
16:42
like winning com um it's about like your
16:45
social influences about not that in the block,
16:47
it's about being you know, Everywhere
16:49
at once. In try your best to just
16:51
remain as powerful as influence was possible to
16:53
get the right. You. Didn't do
16:56
that, but. He's you. Missed the
16:58
relationships along the way and I do since
17:00
it's usage so. Now. But significant been
17:02
home to roost and. You.
17:05
Lost again. So it's like it's.
17:08
Like part of it. But. I think
17:10
it's healthy way any part of
17:12
his allies he's meeting made those
17:14
relationships that then it's trade bad
17:16
without any sort of like. Like.
17:20
Making them feel better about it like that. especially with they
17:22
say see the like. I think
17:24
the we played that was totally wrong
17:27
because he kept telling her like I've
17:29
heard some things and now my opinion.
17:31
If you can have changed since I
17:33
know that's not what's going on here.
17:36
You. guys you you need to
17:38
tell her that you are budding her out because
17:40
she's a big threats here dame and i see
17:42
such a good player and that you don't think
17:45
you can win against or and now you have
17:47
to take the shot or whatever you have to
17:49
say that kind of seven i think that would
17:51
have landed so much better with her and this
17:53
whole like actually these outside influences are really getting
17:56
to me like i just don't think the now
17:58
with saying well if they're and even
18:00
after she evicted, the goodbye message to
18:02
her said the same thing. It was
18:05
still like, I just had people in
18:07
my ear. It's like that makes it
18:09
look like you were easily manipulated and
18:11
easily influenced versus I knew
18:14
that I couldn't beat you in the end. I
18:16
had to take the shot when I had the
18:18
chance. You would do the same thing with me.
18:20
Like I'm so sorry. You know, you're, I really
18:22
wanted to get to the end with you, but
18:24
I knew I couldn't beat you, so I had
18:26
to take the shot. Like that's what you got
18:28
to say. And I think that that would have
18:30
landed. Maybe she would have still been better about
18:32
it. I don't know. Maybe she would have been
18:34
like, well, I'm still mad. Fine. But I do
18:36
think that that would have at least been better
18:38
for her because I think that that's like the
18:40
ego boost that people need when they're getting evicted
18:42
is like, they want to hear that you're evicting
18:44
them because they're a good player, not because
18:46
you like heard some rumor, like it just
18:48
wouldn't, I don't know, I think it would
18:50
made an influence. I'll push
18:52
back on that a little bit because I think
18:55
that from what we saw
18:57
from spicy in the jury on
19:00
the finale. Um, I
19:03
don't, I don't think there's any shot she's ever
19:05
voting for Anthony. And it cause like a big
19:07
part of it too was like, she was like,
19:10
well, listen, she was like, I'm not bitter. I'll
19:12
vote for him as long as he owns his
19:14
game. And he very much did in, uh,
19:16
in his speech, right? Like he very much did say all
19:18
of those things. You were the biggest
19:21
threat. And I think he did fall into the trap
19:23
because I think he started the conversation
19:26
with spicy about why she
19:28
needed to leave with, with that message. Uh,
19:30
he talked a lot about how the only reason
19:32
he's made it this far is because of her,
19:34
she's a powerful player in the game. He talked
19:36
about a lot of those things, but
19:39
she kept coming at him with the angle
19:41
of how could you do this though? I
19:43
was so loyal. And I think he fell
19:45
into the trap of like arguing that point
19:47
because it wasn't true. Um,
19:49
and, uh, and he felt like, how
19:51
could you, you don't actually think
19:53
that I know all of the things that you've
19:56
been doing and he was naming correct things. It's
19:58
not like he was hearing incorrect. of
20:00
information and believing them. And
20:03
so, you know, I really, and
20:06
let me tell you, like, after
20:09
the game was over, like, she was still
20:11
had nothing to do with them. Like, like,
20:15
this is not a beast that has been
20:17
has been unbeast quite yet. And
20:20
I don't think you get that level of
20:22
vitriol, because of an explanation
20:25
that is that what
20:27
that was there that is accurate, like,
20:29
it to my mind, like, in my
20:32
eyes, the way I've really seen this,
20:34
since it's been clear that I think
20:36
Anthony probably loses. Like,
20:41
I think Anthony needed to
20:43
cut space spicy V
20:45
much sooner, I think she needed to go
20:48
pre jury, I think that's the only way
20:50
he ever wins the game. I don't think
20:52
he was ever going to win
20:54
with spicy on the jury. I think that there
20:56
was just no chance of that happening. Do
20:59
you think if spicy got to the end,
21:01
do you think she would win? Or do
21:04
you think it was like she had too much drama?
21:07
Well, that like, so here's the thing.
21:09
And I say that, but there's also a couple
21:11
of other things we could probably talk about. One
21:13
of which is the executive veto, which saves Todd,
21:16
and if it's VVIC, who definitely would have
21:18
been a vote for Anthony, I
21:20
don't know if this was in the finale,
21:23
but like, VVIC, very
21:25
much was like in support of Anthony, like,
21:27
you know, you played a great game. And
21:30
then Matt, who
21:32
leaves right after, who probably can't be evicted,
21:34
while they're still dealing with VVIC, at
21:37
least one of them, if not both of them making
21:39
the jury, makes probably all the difference, because I
21:41
think that Tola went
21:44
on to the jury as a pro Anthony
21:46
person. And over time, they really kind
21:49
of like massaged the
21:51
little bit of like, well, but he
21:53
didn't vote for me into like the
21:55
full blossom hatred where he's then fist
21:57
pumping Avery about how they're gonna. not
22:00
vote Anthony.
22:03
But if instead Matt and
22:06
Vivek are on the jury and he's
22:08
got people to be like, yeah, obviously
22:11
Anthony so on and so forth. I
22:14
think it's, again, potentially an entirely
22:16
different story, but Spicy
22:19
getting those extra people on the
22:22
jury really, I
22:24
think, made a huge difference. She definitely had
22:26
a lot of sway
22:29
over them. And
22:32
who knows, maybe without Spicy there,
22:36
they still would have been upset with Anthony. But
22:39
it doesn't take a
22:42
mathematician to connect the one
22:45
plus one was probably two. I
22:48
mean, if there was ever, I agree. Sorry,
22:50
Melissa, go ahead. No, no, you go ahead because
22:53
I'm going to bring up something else. So go
22:55
ahead. I was going to say,
22:57
no, I agree to a certain extent. I think that
23:00
Spicy was, like I said before, if there
23:02
was any shot of somebody like a Kayla
23:04
that did sort of get burned by some
23:06
of the lies that he put out there
23:08
about her, if there was ever any chance
23:12
of her sort of getting over it, I think
23:14
it was probably eviscerated by Spicy coming into the
23:16
jury. Because I think that
23:18
his answer to Kayla was like, yeah,
23:21
like I was afraid of going
23:23
to the end with all of you women, especially
23:25
all of you black women, because I don't
23:29
think I would have probably would not have won. And
23:31
he's probably correct in that. But I also think that
23:33
it's like such a double edged short when it comes
23:35
to hot chocolate. Because I think
23:37
that I'm not sure I think that I think
23:39
that all of them sort of I'm
23:43
sort of wrestling with how I feel about
23:45
how many of them handled
23:47
hot chocolate. Because, and again,
23:50
we didn't get feeds this
23:52
year. So it's really hard sometimes to
23:54
to really fill in all the blanks.
23:57
But To me, from what the things that we did get when it came out, I'm not sure
23:59
if it is a good thing. The hot chocolates. Sometimes I
24:01
felt like you was just out of
24:03
convenience, right? Like hot chocolate in the
24:06
cookout are not equal. Alliances not in
24:08
the mud. F and Flight Assist know.
24:11
Sometimes. I'm sitting there like. How.
24:13
Much of this actually does mean something to you
24:15
all on that level and how much of it
24:17
is this is something that I am using to
24:19
get myself. Further, In the game? Yes, I
24:21
can actually believe in it on some level. I don't
24:23
think that any of them. You. Know or
24:26
like. I don't think that it was
24:28
like states, but I don't know if it was.
24:31
A priority in the same way that
24:33
we saw with Bb Twenty Three, right?
24:35
And are no, I think that that.
24:38
Really? I
24:40
think that I think once on some
24:43
level I think because like hearing I'm.
24:46
Like this say to him you know you know that
24:48
loyalty over money or whenever I towards the end and
24:50
we heard her in her in for package for
24:52
the beginning of his emphasis on my her she wanted
24:54
to be the first black woman to win with
24:56
the wind big brother. I.
25:00
I don't think that out with us untruth but that's
25:02
not something that I guess is the only have like
25:04
in her narrative in my it. right?
25:06
And so when she was like. When. She felt
25:08
that burned at the end by getting caught
25:10
by him, which I totally understand. I
25:13
felt like that have more to do is hurt
25:15
his having the special relationship with Anthony because to
25:17
sort of turn on the wrath of hot chocolate.
25:19
For. Him. And. So. Now.
25:23
You're bringing back up as a reason
25:25
as to why Anthony Certain when some
25:27
like this does it feel it's not,
25:29
it's not to grew it to me.
25:31
So that's why my Billie Russell wrestling
25:33
with like. and
25:35
some of these both i get a put some symbolics.
25:38
I don't know about that's a simple
25:40
know city but. You. Know yet?
25:42
you're in your field that you've just gotta business. Unless
25:44
you have it. it's just. It's very it's
25:46
very hard to deal with right? I'm like, really really.
25:48
I can't wait to like, listen to the rest of
25:50
them. like really like have a moment to decompress and
25:53
then come back and talk to them, talk to us
25:55
about like their thought processes. For the right now I'm
25:57
a little a little confused. Yeah
25:59
I mean. I think obviously the
26:01
the decision. I think the most
26:03
shocking part of the finale was
26:06
the decision to take Bailey and
26:08
then the jury's response afterwards. But
26:10
ah but I think that like.
26:14
We. Need to talk about. How
26:16
the hell pay we manage security tax
26:19
rate hikes? Ah, because business really at
26:21
clearly. I think by the end of
26:23
the season. I know a
26:25
lot of a lot of people will remember this
26:28
as like. A deep
26:30
the season that Anthony lost a
26:32
second time. I know a lot
26:34
of people see this as the
26:36
season that like spicy had such
26:38
a strong influence over but to
26:40
me I don't. The true story
26:42
of this season was Bailey. Ah
26:45
met and how see? More.
26:47
Than anybody else, the
26:49
season managed to navigate
26:51
the waters between. Anthony.
26:54
Douglas and Spicy. The.
26:57
Ah, met, and how
26:59
treacherous those fuckers worth?
27:01
I bally's the person
27:04
who managed to. Stay
27:06
good with both of them. Nobody else
27:09
did that. I said there was
27:11
anthony side. there was spicy side.
27:14
And despite hot chocolate. There.
27:16
Was a divide within hot chocolate that
27:18
was not an alliance that truly cross
27:20
that bridge. The director is was not
27:23
an alliance The cross that bridge because
27:25
those alliances were destroyed and demolished. I
27:27
the only thing that truly cross the
27:29
bridge from one side to the other
27:32
and back again was Bailey and the
27:34
way that she was able to. I.
27:37
Say manipulate. I talked
27:39
to her about this. I've done some
27:41
interviews I I don't think it was
27:43
a malicious form of manipulation, but the
27:46
way the Bailey was able to push
27:48
her own agenda. On. too
27:50
spicy throughout most of the seasons
27:52
to put to back spicy into
27:54
a corner ah amid to play
27:57
her against anthony well spice He
27:59
takes all the heat. And
28:02
then also simultaneously able
28:04
to create this relationship with Anthony,
28:07
where she's openly challenging him and
28:09
yet he still comes around and
28:11
trusts her and by the end
28:14
of the game, chooses her over
28:17
everyone else and
28:19
gets the win because of it.
28:22
I think she has played an
28:24
extraordinary game, especially in the context
28:26
of a season
28:28
with returners, returnees. I
28:31
think that if you look at
28:34
most new player winners who have
28:36
won against returning players, you
28:38
usually do look at it in
28:41
a large way as like,
28:43
well, Paul screwed
28:45
up or well, the coaches
28:47
twist or well, Kudeta.
28:51
But in this case, I think Bayley
28:54
more than deserved this win. And
28:57
I think that the jury certainly was bitter,
28:59
but I think at the
29:01
same time, Bayley deserved the win. And
29:04
I think both can be true. And
29:06
I think that, you know,
29:08
I just think I'm very impressed with
29:10
the way that she managed to navigate
29:13
this game, because I do think it's even
29:15
more complex than most people would even right
29:17
now still give it credit for. Yeah,
29:20
I definitely don't think this was a
29:22
vote like against Anthony, like they
29:24
would vote for anyone as long as it
29:27
wasn't Anthony. Like I think they might have voted
29:29
for anyone, but at the same time, right. In
29:32
this particular situation, I do think they were voting
29:34
for Bayley. And I think that she
29:36
totally deserved it. I think that the way that she
29:39
played was so it was so well
29:41
done, but also it was so entertaining. I feel
29:43
like she was a really entertaining player. I wanted
29:45
her to stay around, like even when we didn't
29:47
know the players all that well near the beginning,
29:49
I felt like she was so fun to watch
29:51
that I was like, let's keep her around. I
29:53
don't want her to go yet. It
29:55
became more and more apparent that she
29:57
was actually playing a Really good game. Was
30:00
very impressed. I'm I think that you know.
30:02
I do think that it is very interesting
30:04
that the whole juri is like. I
30:07
you know free team loyalty and like oh
30:09
sticking with your allies and was like cheering
30:11
her on when she was saying that she
30:13
played the most loyal dame and they were
30:15
like we got a reward the muslim name
30:17
when like every single person on a jury
30:19
was betrayed their closest allies that like every
30:21
corner it was like literally any time they
30:23
said that he and the the opportunities to
30:25
betray their votes his allies that was like
30:27
this team of the season is like I'm
30:29
a Chili's and with my closest ally on
30:31
the block and get them out for one
30:33
reason or another and then like you know
30:35
you see aiming at the. End: Like to
30:38
name Lisa with Anthony is kicking out.
30:40
Alexis is like. I. Own a
30:42
white lie about the theme of the
30:44
season, but it really was on anything.
30:46
Bailey did such a good job navigating
30:49
the weirdness of bad because he says
30:51
really honestly, usually do that sort of
30:53
like sad sad move like ones in
30:55
a season but this is like every
30:57
single H O h it was like.
30:59
Okay, If your best ally when
31:02
they show a h you're probably
31:04
going home stadium and isn't enough.
31:06
Oh also the Psu like thinking
31:08
about it. Really
31:11
was up against Spicy in the final
31:13
two. I. Think see
31:15
as the very least as a very good chance
31:17
to still when. I
31:20
think I think that will probably
31:22
comes down to Anthony. Or
31:25
something like that and you know,
31:27
who knows. I think that. do
31:29
I feel like. I've
31:31
you a goose. Still might have
31:33
been inclined depending on what the
31:35
speeches were. I think Tola would
31:37
have been available. I think Kayla
31:40
would have been a be removed.
31:42
I'm not sure. But. I did
31:44
get a little bit of lakes and this
31:46
is busy me very much reading into things
31:48
but like I did get a little bit
31:51
of Caleb reacting a little weird lead to
31:53
some of was by suicide when they were
31:55
being questioned. like
31:58
there was maybe a little bit of agree really Spicy,
32:00
you're really gonna say this? But who
32:02
knows? So she might've been a
32:04
Bailey vote, taught obviously a Bailey vote, and all
32:06
of a sudden you're looking at three, maybe four
32:08
votes, and Bailey might've been able to be Spicy
32:10
as well. I do think she was probably one
32:13
of the biggest jury threats in the
32:15
jury, period, which
32:20
makes it all the more wild that Anthony, unfortunately,
32:23
mistook her for the person
32:26
he's here to be. And
32:28
I immediately drew this comparison because
32:33
Anthony inspired Kevin
32:35
Jacobs to play the game. He
32:37
took a lot from Anthony when
32:40
he played his game, and I
32:42
could not help but think about
32:45
Josh and the decision he made to
32:47
take Kevin, thinking that Kevin was the easier beat, and
32:50
how wild it is that Kevin,
32:52
inspired by Anthony, goes on to
32:54
convince somebody to take the wrong
32:57
person, him, to the final two,
32:59
and then Anthony comes on and
33:02
basically reverse Kevin Jacobs' himself. But
33:06
again, it's hard to say that because, well granted,
33:08
I think Josh probably also loses to Betty, so
33:10
maybe it was very similar in that
33:12
sense as well, where it's like, it was the worst of the
33:14
two decisions, but he still might've lost anyway. But
33:18
man, the poetic irony
33:20
there, I guess, is a lot. I
33:23
mean, look, Baylee, her perception of her game and
33:30
the way that she was able to explain it was, I
33:32
mean, just damn near flawless. I mean,
33:35
Anthony literally talked about being the most influential
33:37
person in the game, the most powerful, the
33:39
most dominant, the number one target in the
33:42
game, and Baylee said,
33:44
you're right, and I
33:46
manipulated you. So it's just like,
33:48
how do you trump that? You
33:51
trumped the trump card, you know what I mean? So I
33:53
feel like the whole, Obviously
33:56
the king and the queen chess
33:58
analogy was great. More than matches
34:01
for explaining we will. The best thing that
34:03
I could have done in this game is
34:05
adjustable friend Dnc. Because. I knew that
34:07
no matter what happens in this house, Key.
34:10
Is to have some kind of like hand
34:12
in his own some some level even if
34:14
is by proxy through five. Seats,
34:16
While also had a relationship with. I
34:19
had to do something and I think. That
34:22
would like such a major blinds, What's?
34:25
I also think that people aren't necessarily.
34:28
Late. Ah wrong when they talk
34:30
about like the slight flirtatious this that was
34:32
going on between the two of them and
34:34
I would not be surprised if that has
34:36
anything to do with emptiness. Would have like.
34:39
You. Know. The. Whole feminine
34:41
wiles him at all and I would
34:43
not be surprised if that really you
34:45
know swayed his his perception on because
34:47
I think that when you watch somebody
34:49
like Bill on a surface level where
34:51
she is touting Miss Arm is narrative
34:53
of being know back up against the
34:55
wall the entire time. Dislike being of
34:57
being a hot mess. right? I
34:59
got a beautiful masks Were you see that
35:02
when you hear that of France you think
35:04
that some said something that someone I can't
35:06
win The mother had to drag. But.
35:08
Now. She. Knew
35:10
she was a hot mess. She says you with
35:12
a mess. As you like, you're still going
35:14
to take me even if I am hot mess. Because.
35:18
I'm a mess, but I can still win because.
35:20
All about other people that I was a hot mess with.
35:23
Where. I thought messes. Sources: I
35:25
think the seat is bitter. Really good job of
35:27
explaining that in just stab. Selling.
35:30
Their narratives to the jury and damn. I
35:32
I feel for anthony because I mean lots
35:34
of I was in our say like ah
35:36
I was limited the draft I was I
35:38
keep our that. Out of the out another
35:41
he was in a win. But. I thought
35:43
that he was of in a when because other
35:45
people want to be on his ass the
35:47
entire time and I was completely wrong. He did
35:49
the same thing that he did the first time.
35:51
He was able to stay under the radar for
35:54
the most part. and the reason why
35:56
he ended up losing was because of the fact
35:58
that like i just redid the relationship that he
36:00
thought that he did and it just
36:03
didn't work out in that way. And so like, I
36:06
didn't think he was going to win, but towards like the
36:08
middle part of the season, towards the end game, I was
36:10
like, I don't see how he doesn't
36:12
now. Like, how do you let Anthony Douglas get to
36:14
the final two again and then not let him win
36:17
this game? And now I'm just like, Oh,
36:19
damn, what a blunder. And I feel for him because I
36:21
know this is like in a very, an emotional, an
36:24
emotional time for him. He's been
36:26
through the wringer and
36:30
it's unfortunate, but I think it's also just
36:32
a reminder that sometimes
36:35
that doesn't necessarily mean that you
36:37
should win, you know what I mean? Like it's not
36:40
that you're not that he's undeserving, but
36:42
sometimes like we all have, like we all have shit
36:44
that we're going through in our lives and that doesn't
36:47
necessarily mean that that's
36:49
something that should affect someone
36:51
else's vote for you to win. And so I
36:54
feel for him because I, you know, I knew
36:56
that this victory would have meant so much to
36:58
him, but at the same time, bitch, like you
37:01
made it to final two again, again. So
37:04
like that is a victory within itself.
37:06
And I just hope that he is able to
37:08
walk away from this and still like
37:10
feel that, You are still one of the
37:12
best big brother Canada players
37:14
out there, like bar
37:16
none. Like, so it's
37:18
just, uh, it's what a wild
37:21
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thing. I
40:00
think that was felt in
40:03
there in the audience. And
40:06
I don't know how much of it translated. And
40:08
I also don't want to like. Overstep,
40:11
but like. Anthony
40:14
was devastated, like
40:18
very devastated and
40:21
like it was it was brutal to
40:24
watch because he was like
40:26
trying to have his own moment and they
40:28
were like, no, no, come back up. You
40:30
got to take the photos like come on.
40:34
And he was like doing his best. But
40:37
like this is a guy who like
40:40
lost his best friend shortly before going
40:42
in, lost his job to come on
40:44
this show to do this again, like.
40:48
And like he has lost
40:50
a lot. And I think
40:52
that he really was
40:54
like, you know, healthy or not.
40:57
Really riding everything on this.
41:00
Like this is this was the one thing he
41:02
had. And I
41:05
think he was really, you know,
41:07
and I think you felt that, you know, not
41:10
only in the way that he played the game,
41:12
but also like in the way that he would
41:14
occasionally be on the on the drops that
41:17
like, you know, this was this was a lot a
41:19
lot to be going
41:21
through while
41:23
going through a lot of other things. And
41:25
to lose in this way in particular was
41:28
I think really brutal. And
41:32
and, you know, like I said, he
41:35
didn't have as many people there either like
41:37
like there were a lot of, you know,
41:39
cheers and a lot of people who were
41:41
there for other people. And
41:43
it didn't seem like there were that many
41:45
people who were there for Anthony. And like,
41:48
you know, I was talking to some people in the audience.
41:51
We were like, man, we hope this guy is all right.
41:53
Like, you know, this
41:55
this really it was it was
41:57
bad. I talked to him in the backyard. And
42:00
he's definitely like just still in a
42:02
haze like you know, and I
42:04
hope I hope he you know I hope he's able to
42:06
do well after this. It is just a
42:09
game. It's just a show but like it definitely
42:11
meant a lot to him and And
42:15
I think you know There were
42:17
definitely a lot of people that were feeling for him in that
42:20
moment because you know
42:22
it it's and I think
42:24
for him to it's like it's hard to open
42:27
up about stuff like that and so You
42:30
know, I even said before the finale I
42:32
was like I really think if he wants
42:34
any shot of winning He needs to get
42:36
vulnerable with the jury and I felt during
42:38
the questions He wasn't right like it was
42:40
it felt rehearsed. It felt not emotional not
42:43
passionate Yeah, but
42:45
you heard it in his opening to
42:47
the episode talking about what what I
42:49
just said And he brought
42:51
it into his final speech a little bit and
42:53
he tried to be tried to like pull in
42:55
on that vulnerability and You
42:58
know and let me tell you and
43:01
I don't know if he noticed but like the
43:03
jury was barely paying attention Like
43:06
they were looking at the audience for their family members. Like
43:08
it was not They didn't
43:10
care. So it was definitely it was brutal.
43:12
It was it was a brutal experience to
43:15
watch in person for sure But
43:17
that's like that That's like the point that I want
43:20
to continue to drive home and I don't know if
43:22
Anthony will ever watch anything like this Or if it'll
43:24
ever reach in the areas but like honestly again like
43:27
for you to have been going through all of
43:29
this stuff that you have been going through and
43:31
you Still did as well
43:33
as you did that is Amazing
43:37
like I Like
43:40
it life is hard, okay life is
43:43
hard let alone a dumbass game like
43:45
Big Brother So for you to compound
43:47
both of those experiences into such a short
43:49
amount of time and still do as well
43:51
I think that that is like Truly
43:54
commendable and yes, like we're gonna have like
43:57
these things in our lives that we put
43:59
so much emotional weight and stock
44:01
into that it's going to feel
44:03
like such a lot if it doesn't go the way that
44:05
we want to. But like, I
44:08
just I am I am I'm
44:11
truly keeping him in my prayers that
44:13
he is able to see the light
44:15
and what he has accomplished again, because
44:18
there are very few people. He
44:20
is in an elite class of people that
44:22
have been able to get to the final
44:24
two twice. Like, and that's
44:27
I just I just I just want to make
44:29
sure that that is like, it's always like
44:31
top of mind for everyone and for him
44:33
because that's that's it's that's amazing. That's
44:36
amazing. No, like how many people can say that they've
44:38
done that? Three off the top of my
44:40
head. And
44:42
personally, I definitely feel like
44:44
he played better than than
44:47
Paul for a couple
44:50
of reasons. First
44:52
of all, Paul's first game. Not
44:55
much to write home about Paul's
44:58
second game played from ahead the whole time. Anthony
45:00
was forced to play from behind a lot of
45:03
the time in this season. He has to pull
45:05
off some big things. Also like
45:07
in terms of bitter juries, even though
45:09
Paul came closer, like Paul definitely deserved
45:15
quote unquote, the bitter jury, a significant
45:18
amount more in terms of
45:20
their behavior that
45:22
season compared
45:24
to like Anthony being kind of a douche
45:27
at times, you know what I mean? And being
45:29
cut throat. So, yeah, I
45:31
mean, in terms of I think the
45:34
big brother, two
45:36
time jury loss person, I think
45:38
Anthony is kind of the new
45:40
gold standard for it. And
45:44
and his in his record
45:46
of not being nominated is
45:48
certainly hasn't nobody's come
45:51
close. So he
45:53
definitely has all that going for him. But
45:55
but yes, unable to Clench
45:57
the wind here. Very
46:00
little bit about Lexus he
46:02
goes in the radically see
46:04
was very close to also
46:06
winning sympathy. And
46:10
ah, I. Think
46:12
very understandably. I think probably
46:14
more than than anybody on
46:17
that jury. the most like
46:19
understandable like his career is
46:22
Anthony Fire me I believe
46:24
like or as cause. You
46:27
just don't have a she had no idea of a he was gonna
46:29
do that either. What she was like oh. Really?
46:32
Oh. Okay I prefer. I
46:34
mean for illicit Each or you tell
46:36
me what you as your feelings. Because.
46:40
Be as I I've I've been saying for a
46:42
while. I think. Don't. Sleep on the
46:44
chance that Anthony takes. Bailey. To
46:46
the final two. And
46:48
the crowd. It certainly was
46:51
like Anthony One. Lexus.
46:53
Is in the final two with
46:55
Anthony for sure and I was
46:57
like. I'd.
47:00
Really like we haven't. We
47:03
haven't seen anything from the jobs in
47:05
almost a week. I'm Anthony
47:07
I think A I've seen him promise
47:09
left his file to once in like
47:11
seventy days I've been in Promise: Bailey
47:14
Final Do. Probably. About twenty
47:16
times I like. There's.
47:18
Definitely a chance. And then. He'd
47:21
I've I've switched up at the last
47:23
I cannot. he said. I.
47:25
Have to choose the person. I. Once had
47:27
that I think I can do. I want our
47:29
in our way of our He really is using
47:31
Lexis. Failure. But
47:34
it's first sir oh my god
47:36
when daily life that finally to
47:39
h L sec ah service for
47:41
her that's so sad. And then
47:43
it was like, wait, what is this?
47:45
Is auto to area really
47:47
like ah damn machine gun
47:49
or airways said that she
47:51
was I am like until
47:53
evening and then he have
47:55
acknowledged are you like good
47:58
great reasoning sister Elizabeth. I
48:00
could not believe that that happened. I honestly
48:02
just sat there in shock. I
48:05
mean, that is not what I expected to
48:07
happen at all. It
48:09
was wild. Yeah, I, again,
48:12
I think I'm
48:14
really not, I really think that there
48:16
is something to be said about like
48:18
the flirtatiousness between him and Bailey. And
48:21
I also think that there is something to be
48:23
said again about how Anthony probably
48:26
was very weary about going to
48:28
final two with a black
48:30
girl when there are so many black
48:32
women on that jury. And he just,
48:34
I'm sure the Monte
48:37
Taylor parallels were just spinning in his
48:39
head. And I don't
48:44
think that that's an, I don't think that's
48:46
necessarily an incorrect read either. Cause like now that
48:48
we know how this jury was feeling, that might
48:50
have been the case. So I'm starting
48:54
to see, I'm starting to see what you were saying
48:56
earlier, Taryn, that
48:59
maybe this was just an unwinnable finale.
49:01
Like I don't know if
49:03
Anthony really had the juice this
49:05
time to really take it home. And
49:09
that's sort of a tough
49:11
pill to swallow because for
49:13
you to play such a game that you
49:16
did for you to be
49:18
in a situation where no matter what you
49:20
do, there's a big chance that you still
49:22
lose. Maybe
49:24
the vote is four three with Lexus and
49:27
you still lose. But that's better than six one.
49:31
You know what I mean? Yeah, well,
49:33
I mean, let's try to briefly
49:35
think it through. If he cuts
49:37
Bailey takes Lexus, I
49:39
think we can assume, let's
49:42
assume Spicy is still against him. It's
49:45
Todd, or actually I don't know where
49:47
Todd goes, but it's Spicy,
49:50
probably Kayla, Avery,
49:54
like he potentially fears. And
49:57
then like if Tola's with them, which it seems like
49:59
he was. then that's it already.
50:01
Like he still loses,
50:03
even if he gets everybody else, which
50:07
means he basically still needs, like
50:09
he just always needs spicy.
50:13
And it's just, I don't know
50:15
that that was ever gonna happen.
50:20
And yeah, go ahead. I
50:22
think that, yeah, I think like what we've just
50:24
been saying the entire, the whole story of this
50:27
season, it's just about like how spicy
50:29
has really just been, you know, running
50:32
around circles around him, getting rid of his allies,
50:34
really just chopping him off at the knees. And
50:37
then when it comes down to it, like all
50:39
of spicy's allies are on that damn jury. And
50:41
it's just like, will
50:44
you have left to really be in your corner to
50:46
really be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
50:48
look, come on now, this is Anthony Douglas we're talking
50:51
about, like let's not, like
50:53
I'm still kind of, I'm still shocked about Tola, to
50:55
be honest. That to me
50:57
just feels so. Yeah.
51:01
And in talking about Tola as
51:03
well, like I again
51:06
want to point out that I think
51:08
we have to make sure we are
51:10
crediting Bayley because Bayley
51:12
developed a relationship with Tola similar
51:15
to the one she developed with Anthony. Whereas like, like
51:18
they went at it, at each
51:20
other. Bayley has this
51:22
really great quality and it's
51:24
maybe because she's like, just
51:27
she does this in real life and she's very
51:29
used to speaking her mind.
51:33
But like she's really good at
51:35
speaking her mind, getting into conflict
51:37
with people and then resolving
51:40
it. And I think that's
51:42
a large part of why she was able
51:44
to build so much trust because it's a
51:47
unique skillset that doesn't usually come into big
51:49
brother. I mean, you know, it's almost
51:51
like the very opposite. In
51:53
fact, it probably is the very opposite of Dan Because
51:56
Dan's thing was always avoid, avoid,
51:59
avoid conflict. Any but
52:01
like not not in nepal sense but in the
52:03
like. You. Are blaming me?
52:05
You're right. The Blame Me. And
52:08
regional conflicts because you just accepting
52:10
it always. Rate. Of
52:13
but we're Bailey does is she
52:15
fights back to like oh screw.
52:19
To do this I have every right to
52:21
feel this way and they get into a
52:23
back and forth. Her and Anthony, Her and
52:25
Zola. But what? She's
52:27
really good as. Is. Finding
52:30
the tipping point. And instead
52:32
of going. Like down
52:34
she finds that tipping point
52:36
and says okay, now let's.
52:39
Go. Back. Let's return. right?
52:42
Like, let's let's pull a back Now
52:44
that we've expressed our feelings, we've been
52:46
honest with each other and bomb. Isn't
52:49
that Mr. So better? Like. We
52:51
were close. As you have gone to the
52:53
bottom of this ah let's because we've gotten
52:56
through it. We can really move on re
52:58
like we can root now we can trust
53:00
each other more so then somebody who's not
53:02
going to be up with you about a
53:04
feel about. And
53:07
she did that well with Zola. I think
53:09
that. I.
53:12
Were about to. I think. talk about. Though
53:14
is. Weird. Bitterness. But I
53:16
think without that groundwork from Bailey, that
53:18
bitterness I don't think translates to an
53:21
anti Anthony both I you know, and
53:23
I think he could have been Alexis.
53:25
Oh, but that's because he also added
53:27
rarely Ship of Lexus. I think that
53:29
like. You know, for
53:32
instance, Spicy. Vs Anthony i
53:34
think tall as and Anthony both. But.
53:37
Because Bailey put a network you
53:39
know issue she was able to
53:41
pick up that that key votes
53:43
will. Key and the
53:45
Census is one of the
53:47
Anthony's cornerstones of. But. Yeah.
53:51
Toler, What?
53:53
Is going on. It. Sound.
53:56
now he's like upset about
53:58
this vote theoretically. And I
54:03
like I've he like again,
54:05
he did not seem to have much time for
54:08
Anthony at that point. Like he was he was
54:10
fist bumping Avery. He was
54:13
like, you know, I caught
54:15
him shaking his head once or twice at what
54:17
Anthony was saying. And I
54:20
know and I was just like, like, where did
54:22
this come from? Like, is it is
54:24
it really just the vote? Right?
54:27
Like, that's all I can think of. But
54:29
then but then I remembered in the jury
54:31
round table, when Todd showed up, and Avery
54:33
was like, Todd, you're
54:36
just a Bailey puppet. And
54:39
he's like, what do you mean? I'm
54:42
her ally. He's like, no,
54:44
you're her puppet. And
54:47
it made me wonder if that's
54:49
what they've been saying to Tola the
54:51
whole time as well. Like you thought
54:54
you were friends with Anthony Douglas? Like,
54:57
he chewed you up and you
54:59
out bro. He never cared about
55:01
you. You were his puppet. Meanwhile,
55:03
the dude's crying for him. Yeah, I
55:06
was gonna say, meanwhile, he's crying. Like,
55:08
I feel like he did care about him. But
55:10
okay. But yeah, I mean,
55:12
I mean, that speaks, I think, to the strength
55:14
of the the
55:17
tenor of that jury house and the
55:19
sort of like, feeling
55:22
that they were having about the situation.
55:25
And I think there's always, I think that
55:28
there's like a combination of what you were
55:30
talking about before, with like his contention with
55:32
Bailey and this like little
55:34
frenemy thing that they had going on. I think
55:37
that there is like, an
55:39
affinity for obviously wanting to vote
55:42
for the winner, right? Like, not not
55:44
everybody is okay with not
55:47
voting with the majority of the jury
55:49
and going with who they believe is
55:51
going to win the season. So I
55:53
do think that there is some of
55:55
that in there as well with him.
55:58
It's unfortunate because again, And
56:00
I do think, I think
56:02
that Anthony made the wrong decision, obviously, but I do
56:04
think that I think that there probably could have been
56:06
maybe one or two more votes in there that could
56:09
have been for him that I think it's a shame
56:11
that he was not able to get. And again, that
56:13
just goes to show just like how, you know,
56:16
again, the relationships
56:18
just weren't there. And like you
56:21
said, Taryn, this, you know, Bailey
56:23
just really being able to be
56:26
a little bit more in your face with everybody. I
56:29
mean, with both her allies and her enemies,
56:31
like in just being able to just be
56:34
out in the open about it all. I don't even
56:36
necessarily know if like honesty and loyalty are like the
56:38
phrases that she should be going with. I think that
56:41
she really should just be talking about like, well, look,
56:43
like we got into a bitch and
56:47
I'm still here. You know what I mean? It's
56:50
interesting. It's kind of like a parallel with like
56:52
Josh versus Paul. Like Josh got into
56:54
it with everybody. And one of the things that
56:56
Cody said when going, I mean, he was obviously
56:58
bitter with Paul, but one of the things that
57:00
he did say in in in like reference and
57:02
in support of Josh was like, at
57:05
least Josh was like in your face.
57:07
At least Josh came up to you and,
57:10
you know, he would get in, he would get into
57:12
it. He would cry afterwards and I was annoying, but
57:15
at least he didn't like hide. And
57:17
I think that Bailey similarly, obviously not as messy
57:19
as Josh, because who can ever be as messy
57:21
as Josh Martinez? But similarly, like, you
57:23
know, she was in your face. And
57:25
that was it. So I think
57:28
that I think there's a little bit of that with Tolle. It's
57:30
like, oh, yeah, we got into a little bit. I kind of
57:32
want to vote for the person that I was I was I
57:34
was fighting with. You know what I mean? So. Yeah.
57:38
And I think like, I mean, not only that, but
57:40
I think Bailey was just like, I think
57:43
she was really smart about the conversations
57:45
that she had. I mean, like, obviously
57:47
we don't get to see all the
57:49
conversations, but like, for example,
57:51
when Anthony was like revealing
57:53
to her about hot chocolate
57:55
and then she like
57:58
totally clocked that he. mentioned
58:00
Lexus as being part
58:03
of it. And she's like, oh, is Lexus part
58:05
of it? And then he's all like, oh, no,
58:07
no, no. And I feel like so
58:09
many players, we would sit there and be like,
58:11
oh, he just said Lexus. He just said Lexus.
58:14
Notice that. But I feel like a lot of
58:16
people might not notice that. And they might just
58:18
kind of be like, oh, he's just talking generally.
58:21
OK, whatever. And not really put two and two
58:23
together. And so I do think that I was
58:25
very impressed with her in that moment. And I
58:27
feel like there were many other moments like that
58:29
where it was like, I mean, for example, when
58:33
she was going to go on the block, and then she's
58:35
like, I don't want to go. She was
58:37
very much like, I'm going to speak my mind and I'm going
58:39
to say that I don't want to go on the block. And
58:41
I feel like having
58:43
somebody be not
58:45
afraid, but more like, I
58:48
don't want her to be mad
58:50
at me for putting her on the block. Or I
58:52
feel like that would be worse for me to put her on
58:54
the block because she will express that she doesn't
58:56
want to go on the block and that she's upset
58:58
that she goes on the block or whatever. I
59:01
feel like there is power in that, whereas a
59:03
lot of people are like, oh, the safer move
59:06
is to just be OK with it
59:08
and show that I'm a good team player,
59:10
which is always the worst to me. So I did really
59:12
appreciate that she was like, no, I'm going to say I
59:14
don't want to go on the block. Of course I don't
59:16
want to go on the block. And then she wouldn't go
59:19
on the block. So I really
59:21
do appreciate Bailey's game a
59:23
lot. I honestly just wish we could have
59:25
seen it on the live feed. I
59:29
really wish I could have seen her play because
59:31
I feel like not only is she a
59:33
really good player, but also really fun and exciting.
59:36
And we don't get to see any of
59:38
it. So I also feel like it
59:41
is hard for me to sit
59:43
there and compare her game to other players
59:45
that we have seen on the live feeds
59:47
because I really don't know what her game
59:50
was truly. So I only
59:52
see what was given to me. And
59:54
so I feel like as much
59:56
as I do really appreciate her win, I wish
59:58
I could have. gotten the full picture
1:00:01
of it so we could be like, oh, this
1:00:03
is how she would rank versus other bank brother
1:00:05
winners or whatever. And I feel like I don't
1:00:07
truly know. Yeah.
1:00:09
And, you know, I guess I don't want
1:00:11
it to go unsaid because I think
1:00:14
I've talked about Bailey's game throughout
1:00:16
the season. But
1:00:18
I know that there are probably people
1:00:21
tuning into the finale podcast who didn't
1:00:23
check out all the coverage throughout the
1:00:25
season. And fairly
1:00:28
so. There's
1:00:32
no live feeds. So
1:00:35
I guess it's worth reiterating
1:00:37
some of the highlights of
1:00:39
Bailey's game. We talked a lot about how she operates
1:00:42
in terms of being upfront with
1:00:45
people. But I talked
1:00:47
about how she, quote, unquote,
1:00:49
manipulates Spicy throughout the game.
1:00:51
And I think, and
1:00:53
I talked to her about this a little bit
1:00:55
that, like, she
1:00:58
does this despite not knowing
1:01:01
any of what's actually happening, right?
1:01:03
Like, she doesn't know about hot
1:01:06
chocolate. She doesn't know about hotter
1:01:08
chocolate. She doesn't know about the
1:01:10
directors. She
1:01:12
doesn't know about a lot
1:01:15
of these allies. She doesn't know
1:01:17
about Spicy's various final fours with
1:01:19
Matt and Lexus final threes with
1:01:21
Anthony and Tola. Like she doesn't
1:01:23
know about any of this. And
1:01:26
she, she only knows her own sliver
1:01:29
of the game. And there are
1:01:31
other players like Avery and Kayla and
1:01:34
Tola and Matt and
1:01:37
all of these other players who knew
1:01:40
a lot more than Bailey most of
1:01:42
the time. And yet
1:01:46
allowed others to like, take
1:01:49
control of their game at various
1:01:52
points in the season. But Bailey,
1:01:54
with her sliver of the game was
1:01:57
like, no, this
1:01:59
is what we've got, this is the way
1:02:01
to go. And even though
1:02:04
it it rarely made sense for
1:02:06
Spicy's game, Spicy
1:02:09
backs herself into a corner trying
1:02:11
to keep Todd safe.
1:02:14
Todd, who is not a
1:02:17
Spicy puppet, but
1:02:19
a Bailey one, if that's the word you want
1:02:21
to use. Spicy
1:02:23
went so far out of her way to
1:02:25
protect Bailey's person, Todd,
1:02:27
that she ended up losing both
1:02:30
of her own people, Kayla and
1:02:32
Avery. And
1:02:35
that's a testament to just
1:02:37
how forceful, without being
1:02:39
overbearing, Bailey was able to be throughout
1:02:41
the game where she
1:02:44
was advocating
1:02:46
for, this is what is
1:02:48
best for us. And
1:02:51
she was being completely honest about it. It
1:02:54
just, it was only not the truth because she
1:02:56
didn't know. She didn't
1:02:59
know there were other options. She didn't know
1:03:01
there were other paths that were much better
1:03:03
for Spicy. But she was
1:03:05
so convincing that Spicy believed her anyway
1:03:07
and went on that path with her.
1:03:10
And then she did the same thing to Anthony
1:03:13
Douglas, right? Like,
1:03:16
that was her strength in the
1:03:18
game. She was always willing to
1:03:21
just go for it. And I
1:03:23
think the double eviction is the
1:03:25
perfect example of it, the most
1:03:28
exemplary piece of her work that
1:03:30
can represent the rest of it.
1:03:32
Because Bailey is the person who
1:03:35
was there immediately after Spicy won,
1:03:37
telling her what she needed to
1:03:39
do. Without it being
1:03:41
like, this is what I'm manipulating you
1:03:44
into doing. It was like, this is
1:03:46
what we need for us. And
1:03:49
she was telling the truth, but it was
1:03:51
also way better for her. And that
1:03:53
was, that's Bailey's game in a nutshell. And that's
1:03:56
what got her to this place. And I think
1:03:58
it needed
1:04:00
in this environment where there were these two
1:04:03
major pillars of the game firing
1:04:05
back and forth at each other.
1:04:08
And she just needed to get in with
1:04:11
both of them and convince both of them
1:04:13
that what was good for her was also
1:04:15
good for them. I
1:04:17
think it's great when you have...
1:04:22
Because I feel like
1:04:25
we see the underdog stories a lot of
1:04:27
the time in shows and games like these
1:04:29
and I feel like
1:04:31
so many of the underdog stories fall by
1:04:34
the wayside because it's like this overarching narrative
1:04:36
of, I have my back
1:04:38
against the wall, therefore I need to
1:04:41
make sure that I just
1:04:45
play the game the best way that I
1:04:47
know and to try to play around all
1:04:49
these people that are against me instead of
1:04:51
actively taking a bit
1:04:54
of your power back. And
1:04:57
I think that we saw Baylee take
1:04:59
a bit of her power back each and
1:05:01
each week and I think that that's definitely
1:05:04
a more dynamic underdog story as
1:05:06
opposed to just letting the
1:05:09
game trample all over you and be like,
1:05:11
whoa, it's me. I'm an underdog. I'm on
1:05:13
the bottom. There's nothing that I can do.
1:05:15
Oh, I made it to the end somehow.
1:05:17
I should win. It's like, no, she didn't
1:05:19
make it to the end somehow. She, week
1:05:21
by week, day by day, she did what she had to do, what
1:05:23
she thought was best, did
1:05:26
it for herself, bought a little bit, got
1:05:28
a little scrappy, made it happen. So
1:05:32
yeah, I think
1:05:34
it's definitely something that I'm
1:05:36
interested in. This
1:05:38
is in Bippo the Canada 12 and all of
1:05:40
its non glory with no feed. I
1:05:43
would not mind rewatching this season just to
1:05:45
like really pinpoint episodes where
1:05:47
you can see her doing
1:05:50
a little bit of work, maybe even looking at some of
1:05:52
these dailies again, just to like see her do a
1:05:55
little bit more work just to get all
1:05:57
the little nuggets. So yeah, I think it's
1:05:59
absolutely. I think it's definitely a commendable game.
1:06:01
It's a deserving game to win and she
1:06:05
won. So. She
1:06:07
did it. But for her,
1:06:09
honestly, it's very exciting. Yeah,
1:06:12
and I think that like, you
1:06:15
know, don't underestimate
1:06:17
Bailey's ability to lie
1:06:19
either. Because even
1:06:21
though a lot of what I just talked about was like
1:06:23
her being honest, and that was a large part of how
1:06:26
she was able to sell things, she
1:06:28
was also then able
1:06:30
to use that perception of
1:06:33
her being straightforward and honest and upfront
1:06:35
and blunt to trick
1:06:38
people into believing her when
1:06:40
she was actually lying. And
1:06:43
that was another huge key part of her
1:06:45
game. And one that
1:06:47
I personally wish she had been
1:06:51
able to, I guess, talk about more in
1:06:53
her speeches. I think she makes the right
1:06:55
call. Like normally I would be like, do
1:06:58
not preach honesty and loyalty. Yeah,
1:07:00
let's stop that. Do not preach that and you're
1:07:02
probably just, that's what this jury wanted. This jury
1:07:04
was weird. They loved it, they ate it up.
1:07:07
But to again, kind of
1:07:10
preview, I think a little bit of my
1:07:12
interviews that will
1:07:14
hopefully be coming out in a little bit. She's
1:07:18
also very much aware of the fact that
1:07:20
like, yeah, I was always still a smart.
1:07:22
Like I was also tricking Anthony. Like
1:07:25
I was definitely good at it. You know what
1:07:27
I mean? So, you know, it's
1:07:30
this great combination of the two. And
1:07:32
I think that I'm
1:07:34
with you, Melissa, that like, man,
1:07:37
would it have been cool to have live feeds for
1:07:39
this? Because I think
1:07:41
that this is probably
1:07:44
the best game to study
1:07:46
now if
1:07:48
you are playing with returning
1:07:50
players. Or maybe
1:07:53
even like a surrey, like a
1:07:56
celebrity-esque guest
1:07:58
player, right? Like these kinds
1:08:01
of things because you know, we
1:08:03
know everybody knows now You
1:08:06
do have to like for as much as people love
1:08:08
to like Rag on the season
1:08:10
and rag on the house guys. You do
1:08:12
have to work with them Like it never
1:08:14
works. You can't just immediately be like I'm
1:08:16
gonna target them That's just asking to be
1:08:18
voted out right away. Yeah, unless America
1:08:22
unless America gives you a coup
1:08:24
d'etat you are not allowed outright
1:08:27
target They're
1:08:30
returning players but
1:08:32
what you can do is Get
1:08:35
in with them and and
1:08:38
ideally there's two of them that you can play off of each other Like
1:08:43
to go against each other right Which
1:08:47
is what Bailey did I think most of it was
1:08:49
inadvertent But but it is what
1:08:51
she did So
1:08:55
Want some newbies to come up there and just
1:08:57
chop these bed heads off I want to see
1:08:59
it happen just one good time. But at one
1:09:01
time, I'm sorry. I do I
1:09:03
just I need it for my soul just
1:09:05
one Immediately That's
1:09:16
it though I'm on like There's
1:09:23
gonna be like you are like if you this
1:09:25
is this is the problem if you think you
1:09:27
are going to do that You're
1:09:29
gonna find that you're the Cody of
1:09:31
the season and they're gonna stand up
1:09:33
and they're gonna whip something out of their pocket Target
1:09:41
me week one you
1:09:43
Idiot I'm
1:09:45
not saying I'm not saying I would do it
1:09:48
if I ever ended up in one of these
1:09:50
shows But I dance room will not
1:09:52
I'm definitely gonna have someone one of these other
1:09:54
newbies. I'm people like do it. Please
1:09:58
Put the asses up I
1:10:01
mean, honestly, like, yeah, it's one of those things where
1:10:04
I feel like every time we're always like, why
1:10:06
don't they just immediately target that? Like, I don't
1:10:08
understand why, like, you wouldn't just want to like,
1:10:11
see them as a threat and be like, we
1:10:13
need to get this person out right away. But
1:10:15
you just know that there's always going to be
1:10:17
some way that production is gonna, you know, make
1:10:20
it to whatever. Even if
1:10:22
it's not production, it's always a fanboy or a fangirl
1:10:24
up in there that throws the wrench in the plan.
1:10:26
And like, there's always going to be someone that's like,
1:10:28
oh, no, no, no, no, no, I've, I've
1:10:31
watched this show. I've been such a fan for so long. And he says,
1:10:33
I want to play with this. And then
1:10:35
once that one person is
1:10:37
in there, it's, it's done. So
1:10:39
total, I don't know, maybe one of
1:10:41
these blue moons will get one of
1:10:44
these vets out immediately. And
1:10:46
I'll be like, okay, yeah. I
1:10:49
also think like, I also think in
1:10:51
terms of like, fan,
1:10:53
like the fan base, I also think it's
1:10:57
better for you to not immediately target the
1:10:59
best. And
1:11:01
like, I mean, imagine like, you know, well, we
1:11:04
don't even need to imagine that we've seen
1:11:06
it, but like, Janelle is playing or whatever.
1:11:08
And if people like immediately are trying to
1:11:10
target Janelle, the fans are not going
1:11:12
to like that. They want you to work with Janelle.
1:11:14
So I think like, and I said this before when
1:11:16
Janelle was playing, like, it was like, you
1:11:18
need to be like, I'm working with you. I
1:11:21
like you, blah, blah, blah. Like you're with them.
1:11:23
And then you find a way to
1:11:25
turn on them, whether you have someone
1:11:27
else turn on them, or whether eventually
1:11:29
you're just like, look, like, I can't beat
1:11:32
you. I have to do this at
1:11:34
the right moment, whatever that right moment
1:11:36
is. Like, that's when the fans would
1:11:38
be like, yes, you know, she's right
1:11:40
that she couldn't beat Janelle. So
1:11:42
it makes sense that Melissa would
1:11:44
turn on Janelle or whatever. But
1:11:46
like, if you do it too early, then it's like,
1:11:48
oh, you just don't like Janelle and you're anti
1:11:50
and we don't like that. Janelle,
1:11:53
yeah, exactly. So we've got
1:11:55
a lot of like timing thing. Yeah,
1:11:58
we talk a lot about like fan perception. Returning
1:12:00
players and will like star players like Siri.
1:12:03
By it but actually they like a
1:12:05
would interesting to talk to like I
1:12:08
like a Bb Uk are like international
1:12:10
version. Player: Because.
1:12:12
That's their bread and butter like I
1:12:14
think they would actually like. I like
1:12:16
as somebody who's like really went into
1:12:18
those games with the intent to play
1:12:20
I think would probably have a strategy
1:12:22
or you have like. This.
1:12:25
Is how you for trade
1:12:27
or sell to the audience
1:12:30
while still covertly trying new
1:12:32
things. It's for an. End
1:12:35
end and recognizing that like
1:12:37
these people might be popular
1:12:40
and these people ah as
1:12:42
though yeah maybe maybe maybe
1:12:44
maybe we'll find out from
1:12:46
on the experts on that
1:12:48
yeah rock but strategically yeah
1:12:50
I think I'm. I
1:12:53
think probably. Couple.
1:12:55
Weeks in. To.
1:12:57
To mid game. that's that's your
1:12:59
window. if you miss your
1:13:01
window. added your own early. It's
1:13:04
done. If you're too late, it's
1:13:06
done. Unless. You're. Able to
1:13:08
like really. Get. In
1:13:11
there and either get lucky or like.
1:13:13
You. Know overcome some other
1:13:15
stuff race. So. Me
1:13:18
again as about the time because that's when you
1:13:20
he now sees establish that you liked them. You're
1:13:22
a fan of them. You want to work with
1:13:24
them. On Sam. Mid
1:13:29
game it's like less. I can't let
1:13:32
you get the jury authorize the whatever.
1:13:35
Film. There he is now and then I
1:13:37
was in the house and he had to the
1:13:39
and. You. Just take the did
1:13:41
Jordan strategy from the zur on or
1:13:43
that he was the circle recently but
1:13:45
others a player when it was just
1:13:47
like i hate this guy. And.
1:13:50
I'm just going to dedicate my existence to taking them.
1:13:53
And muslims. as
1:13:57
soon as he distances usually do
1:13:59
and. Sorry. Your go into.
1:14:04
Korea but without working with every. A
1:14:07
I believe I'm not a while at that. Spot.
1:14:09
Is our who? No no no
1:14:12
I definitely wouldn't I was joke
1:14:14
that metaphysically I sorrow and know
1:14:16
you're going to summer and be
1:14:18
like ah like all right Taylor's
1:14:21
in Aus Well. There and
1:14:23
said oh my god Now.
1:14:25
Yes, it as a thing you do. You
1:14:27
have to start. And the diseases you can
1:14:30
start as like oh I'm just as the
1:14:32
offender August so dedicated and do whatever and
1:14:34
you're loyal soldier like you can't do that.
1:14:37
But. Being like hey I respect your game I
1:14:39
want to work with you. That's a very
1:14:41
different vibe so I believe that I respect
1:14:43
for him on work with us and they
1:14:45
had like yeah yeah that makes sense if
1:14:47
I was now they feel the same way
1:14:49
or whatever but if your life I believe
1:14:51
a really immediately like fell off a lot
1:14:53
of people played favorite thing Radar because she
1:14:55
was just like I love spicy be and
1:14:57
I'm obsessed and I'll do anything she says
1:14:59
like I'm just like anything you say is
1:15:01
like okay that kind of and too much.
1:15:04
Will that suppose? In that's the thing I think that
1:15:06
is a very. Played. Her
1:15:08
own game. She. Would have
1:15:10
fun. Like. Since I
1:15:12
I think the. I
1:15:15
think the. Of
1:15:18
Drew any any moment where she was
1:15:20
too late was doing her own thing
1:15:22
was not just grew led. By.
1:15:25
Would spicy wanted her to do a oh
1:15:27
yeah I think that's the key to and
1:15:29
I I think that's the key to a
1:15:31
like having the Sands appreciate you. Because.
1:15:34
Even if people hey what you're doing
1:15:36
is you have your own vision for
1:15:38
what you're doing. And
1:15:41
and you're perceived as having your and be reduced.
1:15:43
Most. People will at least. Like.
1:15:46
Zero Green eyes You as.
1:15:49
Your. Own. Purse: And.
1:15:54
And you will have fans through
1:15:56
that by itself. but I it's
1:15:58
also good for the game. I
1:16:00
think most of the time there
1:16:02
are there are. Places
1:16:04
I think where you can be
1:16:06
like. Like. First the A
1:16:08
Steve Moses for example being like
1:16:10
this or what happened to Jackie
1:16:12
Ah man I have a month
1:16:14
since the Nasa. Like
1:16:17
that works for him because that
1:16:19
was like a very intentional game.
1:16:23
But like adding most of the time. You.
1:16:26
Want people to recognize that? Like
1:16:28
you are your own person. You are, You're
1:16:30
on fire and and you can win respect
1:16:33
that way. And and
1:16:35
I think that yeah for time
1:16:37
row fan perception, when there's when
1:16:39
there's Alumni in the house, I
1:16:41
think there's a reason why. Bailey,
1:16:43
who very much was playing with
1:16:45
and for Spicy for a long
1:16:47
time, was a lot more appreciated.
1:16:49
And somebody like every because Bailey.
1:16:52
And we saw it. Was. Eventually
1:16:54
able to and you always knew this
1:16:56
was the case. Like. Be
1:16:58
like oh, Screw you thus
1:17:01
I see on away whereas and
1:17:03
give one to get Anthony Apple
1:17:05
damn time to my yeah read
1:17:07
measure in her and again like
1:17:09
had her own vision like even
1:17:11
though she was a much loyal
1:17:13
to spicy she would fight Stacey
1:17:15
on the direction they should be
1:17:17
going which again is why like.
1:17:20
I can't stress enough how key this
1:17:22
was because the difference between a player
1:17:25
like Avery and a player like Bailey
1:17:27
is that every was look they were
1:17:29
both little the spicy but when spicy
1:17:31
told Avery to jump. Avery jumped
1:17:34
and when Spicy told Bailey a
1:17:36
job, Bailey said. No. It's
1:17:39
better. We walk. And spy he
1:17:41
went. Okay I guess a
1:17:43
walk them. As any see
1:17:45
a jump. She's in
1:17:47
the same spot as a bridge. She does not win this game.
1:17:50
For. She bought for her own vision
1:17:52
of the game. Made a.
1:17:55
Cameo out about whole. Feel of oh
1:17:57
my Yeah mean I ultimately keyless ended up going home.
1:17:59
Believe this. The Avery was just so quick to
1:18:01
discover up our i well as get her out
1:18:03
and Bailey was I will hold on. Do
1:18:06
are we sure that she'll as you said
1:18:09
this stuff like since the as this varies
1:18:11
just did. Very exemplary of just the you
1:18:13
know. Always. Having her own. Head
1:18:16
of her shoulders so. Long
1:18:19
as they still soft that top their
1:18:21
heads off Guys Tom I'm off by
1:18:24
this is. The
1:18:26
i to play the game the system but.
1:18:29
Move all right? Well, anything else
1:18:31
we should talk about. This
1:18:35
month and it was engraved. Finale: Honestly
1:18:37
isolate their offense some a let down
1:18:39
an alley is recently it's ah and
1:18:42
I feel like it this was as
1:18:44
flat on it was well done and
1:18:46
the people you know I thought the
1:18:49
both the final seal had gray answer
1:18:51
is great speeches and I fill it
1:18:53
with unlocking that lately south it was
1:18:55
very fun to watch them fight it
1:18:58
out till the and and I think
1:19:00
we ended up with a good results
1:19:02
as just is. Yeah, it was
1:19:04
a great great episode. John
1:19:08
I think if is anything else
1:19:10
from the finale. Or from like
1:19:13
the the live show that I that I
1:19:15
should talk racism and as these I guess
1:19:17
again maybe you guys come in and maybe
1:19:19
the audience can ask some questions as well
1:19:21
to like jog my memory book. Things that
1:19:23
might be worth pointing out but. I
1:19:27
the part three of the final
1:19:29
for each wage. Back. And
1:19:31
we thought it mattered. Really
1:19:34
mattered more. I was
1:19:37
incredibly tense. It
1:19:39
was yeah, I know through. I believe
1:19:42
it was cut down pretty significantly for
1:19:44
the episodes I like. They.
1:19:46
Were like each question they were
1:19:48
like. Two
1:19:51
minutes almost felt like of like
1:19:53
and was thinking tensions and from
1:19:56
where we were sitting we could
1:19:58
see the and. There's a on
1:20:01
like the prompter. And
1:20:03
I was like that watching
1:20:05
The Bailey. In Mcgrew
1:20:08
two minutes. ah they'll hold on your
1:20:10
we talk about one away one oh
1:20:12
a girl mueller okay let me. Also
1:20:14
needed their eyes so under my i'm
1:20:16
watching Bailey and I know the answer
1:20:18
like I know it's be or a
1:20:20
mess and Bailey had a towel that
1:20:23
she would always lean toward the button
1:20:25
she thought it was to be like
1:20:27
oh I think they were going to
1:20:29
get this one right now and it
1:20:31
was so is so like tense going
1:20:33
around. They went through like three or
1:20:35
four sudden death questions and. They just
1:20:38
kept answering the same thing
1:20:40
over and over guys. And
1:20:42
then finally get good sue the
1:20:45
tie breaker. And
1:20:47
there is one moment also I
1:20:49
don't know this made the episode
1:20:51
by it's is is that they
1:20:53
asked to repeat the question like.
1:20:56
A bunch. It was
1:20:58
like nursery. The question they think a
1:21:00
better like sixty seconds ago your be
1:21:02
the question Stupid question The you ever
1:21:04
know? Sixty seconds. And
1:21:07
a one point. Of failure
1:21:10
buzzed in. And and the
1:21:12
you like. Can. You repeat the question. Is
1:21:15
like ah, sorry I can.
1:21:18
Barely. Audible and. As
1:21:20
all we're we're like this is the one he gets wrong
1:21:22
but then he he gotta read as well. So
1:21:26
then we as he entered his. Tie
1:21:28
breaker: Ah, Are
1:21:31
again I don't know how much was
1:21:33
seen but. They
1:21:36
were both scribbling away doing math, and
1:21:38
the question was something like, how many
1:21:40
can how many days combined to the
1:21:42
jurors spend on the block. Bally's.
1:21:45
Do knows mass. Three
1:21:47
fourths of the time through she
1:21:49
goes. Oh shit
1:21:51
and scribbles everything out. Oh
1:21:54
no, It's a seemingly starts over.
1:21:57
Met and and interested or.
1:22:00
Given like hey guys like where are. You.
1:22:02
Have this Show me an answer. And
1:22:04
oh. I. Forgot to ask
1:22:07
her But like I my
1:22:09
assumption was that see. The
1:22:11
obviously like messed up in wasn't
1:22:14
thinking of the correct question and
1:22:16
had to like. Try
1:22:18
to do the math of the last second
1:22:20
on the flies. My guess was that she
1:22:22
was accidently. Counting. Everyone.
1:22:25
And. Not just jury members. and
1:22:27
then. Was. Like panicking subtracting numbers
1:22:29
from her answer and as didn't go
1:22:31
far enough. That was my best guess
1:22:33
for how she got there, but she
1:22:35
definitely like seems to have been going
1:22:37
up the wrong tree for a while
1:22:39
before realizing she needed to do something
1:22:42
else. Yet I was
1:22:44
a wide summer we have and. I
1:22:46
can't the way what I would not be able
1:22:48
to do as any of this like math class
1:22:50
at my is like the second he goes to.
1:22:52
Tie breakers with a little chat boards.
1:22:54
I do like an owl and and
1:22:57
I'm not gotten us one. I saw
1:22:59
Anthony writing is three and as legs
1:23:01
Surely he's writing is a guy we
1:23:03
we knew seventy five. Like
1:23:06
Shirley's writing like sixty three or
1:23:08
something. And then when
1:23:10
he's in Hebrew, it's allergies. Three hours,
1:23:12
like Bailey one. And then
1:23:14
Gm one and I was like. Oh
1:23:16
nevermind. A below the. Yeah.
1:23:19
Like isolating think he is. This is like
1:23:21
if you don't know the answer like ray
1:23:23
a low number because blade and it's without
1:23:25
going over said I'd that like are better
1:23:28
for if you really don't know it like
1:23:30
better for you to put that thing lol.
1:23:32
Then. of possibly settling few high see my
1:23:35
is not a select number of like five or
1:23:37
something and then hope everyone else. Has over
1:23:39
at around. Leave ah device as
1:23:41
he is. I would not know the answer. Very.
1:23:44
Well in math. Still missing people up to this.
1:23:46
this. Is. Michelle
1:23:48
the Lcs to the editors are introduced into the
1:23:50
pre Juri did did you not see the Breeder
1:23:52
interview. Now. He saw
1:23:55
way we'd see a name, a
1:23:57
few questions, She. Is one
1:23:59
like one question? Yeah yeah.
1:24:02
Why didn't lay meeting in in the game it
1:24:04
like i think showing some. I don't remember
1:24:06
I think Seattle madam I work at a
1:24:08
on things you see our. Citizens.
1:24:11
Install one points for the my.
1:24:15
Utility to introduce as a as as
1:24:17
as far as I remember Malik, I
1:24:19
don't remember them like actually I think.
1:24:22
You're having anything interesting from the
1:24:24
some huge is no say to
1:24:26
them. You. Know is it wasn't
1:24:29
like super important and I apologize if
1:24:31
they do some as of I am
1:24:33
I was. I was editing the the
1:24:35
interviews during the opposite since I've already
1:24:37
seen it so there are so do
1:24:39
when you're when you're at the film
1:24:41
as are you watching be edited cuts
1:24:43
alongside like the audience as well like
1:24:45
a yummy basically his big screen. Zelig
1:24:48
Bad. First twenty minutes, we just watched
1:24:50
it. And. Then gotta risk comes up
1:24:53
in she does her thing. And
1:24:55
then they'd the alleys do segment
1:24:57
and they you know do commercial
1:24:59
breaks which reduced rates and then
1:25:01
is that's pretty the pretty much
1:25:03
as and and we like see
1:25:05
the we see Anthony and Failure
1:25:08
on the screen as well just
1:25:10
like the same school teachers. At
1:25:13
it. Let's.
1:25:17
See any other questions from
1:25:19
the audience. Will make a
1:25:21
mouse the summer does the
1:25:24
backyard. Ah yeah, I
1:25:26
walked in a little this. To
1:25:30
suzanne one of the chairs since
1:25:32
since enough emphasis on food as
1:25:35
leg there is no tears mustache
1:25:37
such. As
1:25:39
well, rise in there. It's It's
1:25:41
not like it's like it's definitely
1:25:43
bright. Lights. A
1:25:46
know is it was night time and I
1:25:48
was tired of be annoying but it was
1:25:50
also it's not like blinding blaze. Yeah right.
1:25:53
Now has his lips and celebrate
1:25:56
laid out his image. They hear
1:25:58
them. The I.
1:26:02
Didn't feel bad bad earliest didn't in
1:26:04
in that. Sir. The i is
1:26:06
a weird thing is that like
1:26:08
the kitchen I think is feels
1:26:10
more separate then use. Than
1:26:12
you think when you're watching on a screen in the
1:26:14
kitchen very much as feel like it's right next to
1:26:16
the table for like, because and for got his own
1:26:19
little nook essentially. Raised
1:26:21
as I don't think it's it's all
1:26:23
open to theory. they open the is
1:26:25
a very different feel in the kitchen.
1:26:29
So. Ear of this is
1:26:32
reminded me about controversy that
1:26:34
Big Meat started Greenlight Zola,
1:26:36
Uriah May Business. Success. On
1:26:38
a. Cell is
1:26:40
still plenty of other allies in
1:26:42
the rain quickly. last. Time.
1:26:46
I was in med be all for a long time
1:26:48
over. Is telling the truth or not, I can't sell.
1:26:52
Ladies' inclusion that link at least.
1:26:54
He. Was a so that our love the
1:26:56
last nine years today as to was bullshit
1:26:58
a as hell. I'd
1:27:01
give you a dry and are you all the
1:27:03
jury members know? I only spoke to the final
1:27:06
three in the backyard and those injuries should hopefully
1:27:08
be up in like. If you're watching
1:27:10
this live may be it is actually a
1:27:12
who knows and right now as I'm subject
1:27:14
a hotel wife I'd to upload these to
1:27:17
get the money to eyes. So. Ideally
1:27:20
their up sometimes in. I hope we by tomorrow
1:27:22
morning you can watch them his size. You're not
1:27:24
staying up. But it. Isn't
1:27:27
great. Daily would have taken.
1:27:30
Lexus there. or Anthony if she
1:27:32
learned. I. Am I mean I'm. Reasonably
1:27:34
certain it would have been Anthony. I
1:27:36
think ours are as because that you
1:27:38
would call Anthony. I'm
1:27:41
pretty sure she mentioned that and
1:27:43
my i didn't specifically ask her
1:27:45
business himself up to me. See
1:27:47
does However, now. I
1:27:50
did ask Lexus was you'd have
1:27:52
done but I'm not. So he
1:27:54
was out. Yeah, okay, I am
1:27:56
sensitive. And will find out later. I got this.
1:28:01
Our. A point. Where.
1:28:03
The confetti and explosions Really close. Yes,
1:28:06
the very specific subset of her. Listen,
1:28:08
if you're close to the confetti, you
1:28:10
need to stay back because there's gonna
1:28:12
be sparks fly pretty loud. That and
1:28:14
that he can be left. Or
1:28:17
right as sounds like it. Oh My. God. Yeah
1:28:20
I was a really like a Rose
1:28:22
access earlier and his new ago that.
1:28:26
All. right? Well, That's.
1:28:28
What we have for you here then for
1:28:31
big Brother Canada. Twelve. Ah,
1:28:33
Zach Wuerttemberg or into says
1:28:35
spends the whole thing. Anyone
1:28:38
objects. And for ever. I
1:28:42
agree. I think you know. Why?
1:28:46
See decide. Which
1:28:48
in some ways makes this worse.
1:28:50
But Lycee decide this was i
1:28:52
think a very good season. And.
1:28:57
Oh he's actually his. Know that. The
1:29:00
Challenge: Producer Guy. He
1:29:04
he talks at these these things.
1:29:08
He. Specifically called on and or as as talk to
1:29:10
others as well as she actually call it out as
1:29:12
well. Ah, At the live show. They.
1:29:14
Love how many different people one
1:29:16
competitions. they said that's the sign
1:29:19
of a good good. Well.
1:29:21
Run season that like there was
1:29:23
a lot of variety in In
1:29:25
in the Winners and to me
1:29:27
that sounds like a very like.
1:29:30
They. Were not saying my last year
1:29:32
because it wasn't true. Ah man, so
1:29:34
isn't very. I'm very happy to not
1:29:36
only get a season where that was
1:29:38
true. Buy it
1:29:41
for them to be calling out specifically
1:29:43
as a goal that they had. I
1:29:45
I I cannot express enough how much
1:29:47
I think that. Was. A
1:29:49
hotel He component of making the
1:29:52
season work. Even with return he
1:29:54
is coming in basically dominating the
1:29:56
game. That the competition
1:29:59
variety is. What made this
1:30:01
so much more interesting?
1:30:03
Man. Rape. The. You
1:30:05
know I think it Will was a great.
1:30:09
Great. Season. Of a
1:30:11
show that is not quite big brother
1:30:13
but. You. Know felt a lot closer
1:30:15
than as the here. Is
1:30:18
calm as down at. Seven.
1:30:20
Deadly Something the I feel that
1:30:22
I just it is it as
1:30:24
still different pressure and mean I
1:30:26
sell. So much less. Invested
1:30:28
in all of it. It just feels.
1:30:31
Like watching says like a tv show
1:30:33
or something. Which it is a tv
1:30:35
show. I guess that's all like it
1:30:37
doesn't feel like. I'm
1:30:39
not as wrapped up in it I
1:30:42
guess as I am with normal big
1:30:44
brother I'd where I'm just I feel
1:30:46
like I know these people and I
1:30:48
feel like I'm really I'm invested in
1:30:50
who wins and who gets owl and
1:30:52
like he just feel that can accents
1:30:54
on. Whereas this it was handling I
1:30:56
really didn't care who got out each
1:30:58
week I was this kind of watching
1:31:00
it as like an outsider just like
1:31:02
this is television and I'm just watching
1:31:04
at night or believed air And so
1:31:06
while. And. The as a
1:31:08
barrier like I asked. His kitten since
1:31:10
I saw a double seems good com
1:31:12
degree burns. that is how I rewards
1:31:14
are mostly prefer suits me. I've heard
1:31:16
on the on of ways it's you
1:31:19
know I mean I've always sort of
1:31:21
so as a little bad about late
1:31:23
and obviously whatever that means the wilderness,
1:31:25
getting a chance to be on tv
1:31:27
and when my him you know her
1:31:29
weight the great experience of a lifetime
1:31:31
but always with a solid. A little
1:31:33
bad that. Canadian. Big
1:31:35
brother players don't get as much as and
1:31:37
soon as the you as the but of
1:31:40
players and now with the marketing of live
1:31:42
feed is even less media for them to
1:31:44
really you know show us who they are.
1:31:46
I'm so always as though to play ah.
1:31:49
Stole many. yeah I know, I
1:31:52
know. We get so many good
1:31:54
players in big where the Canada
1:31:56
that deserves so much more fan
1:31:58
recognition and as. Now unfortunately
1:32:00
they did marijuana get a because it's.
1:32:03
Because. Of the duration of the show is going
1:32:05
and by. Regardless, it was still a really good
1:32:07
season and death definitely. I think I enjoyed this
1:32:09
a lot more than I enjoyed last. Even so,
1:32:12
Yeah. Yeah, I mean there's a whole conversation
1:32:14
this this. Podcast. Could have
1:32:16
been largely about like. Okay,
1:32:19
How. Do we rank Anthony in the in
1:32:21
the hall of grades? given that we don't
1:32:23
have it? In like can
1:32:25
he be than greens of all time I are
1:32:27
no. I feel like
1:32:29
that without out with honors nation that
1:32:32
conversation the what would have been in
1:32:34
this and and now it's or. At
1:32:36
least or Anthony we've seen him play before with
1:32:39
I've seen so we now live find a way
1:32:41
he doesn't like what he's done, deal and yell
1:32:43
so we can use that as that. Like it
1:32:45
stays. But with family it's like we really don't
1:32:48
know. I mean aside from what we've seen as
1:32:50
far as well he seen. And what
1:32:52
we've been given. Three. Players they're very
1:32:54
fine. Yeah, I know, I have cetera et
1:32:57
cetera, but we don't know the intricacies of
1:32:59
her game and I still a we would
1:33:01
all appreciate it a lot more if we
1:33:03
did sell. It is disappointing, you know, and
1:33:05
I'm sure that there are things that we
1:33:08
mess and share things we didn't see. And
1:33:10
so yeah, obviously this season has that coffee
1:33:12
at. Ah
1:33:14
well, I think there is one thing we
1:33:16
can all agree on. It's.
1:33:19
Always been pretty indisputable, but.
1:33:22
I am the greatest referral time. Now
1:33:25
says, and I do As a way
1:33:28
things are. You know, My.
1:33:30
The second season in like a
1:33:32
few years where I had both
1:33:34
of the final to. The.
1:33:36
Second see. You
1:33:39
know, hard as being this
1:33:41
perfect as a drafter My
1:33:43
thighs O K Anthony. My
1:33:48
go for a while to. Master
1:33:52
Bruce. Was
1:33:54
going to have. An. Sd
1:33:58
oh. Okay, Maybe.
1:34:01
In on the area like I have. I
1:34:03
would have sounds like are I won because
1:34:05
I took a risk on the on the
1:34:07
bed spill legs you know. But. I
1:34:10
want on Bailey. That's. Even more
1:34:12
impressive in my like that was that will
1:34:14
new player in I mean let a while
1:34:16
Yet to those Lucy. Drafted for you
1:34:18
were seen. As
1:34:21
human activity was Anthony and then
1:34:23
her And whole and and spicy.
1:34:25
last. Side.
1:34:28
C L u issue is thirty three or
1:34:30
whatever. She. Were earlier
1:34:32
anthony Atala Bailey and Spicy
1:34:35
The. Big Brother
1:34:37
you as will be back
1:34:39
in about two months. And.
1:34:41
We I would be. If
1:34:43
this were smokers he knew I was
1:34:45
the first thing I thought maybe with
1:34:47
thank you for winning me but since
1:34:50
this call my god and will be
1:34:52
among others have old when he landed
1:34:54
on Thursday is. Ah
1:34:57
are I will thank you all so
1:34:59
much for joining us all season long.
1:35:01
I know it's been a weird one
1:35:03
with the jobs the way they are
1:35:05
and then that's is gonna how things
1:35:07
are for Big Brother cannabis. Hopefully you're
1:35:09
able to have fun with us because
1:35:11
I think that it's was in comparison
1:35:13
to last year where I really feel
1:35:15
a guy with the combination of both
1:35:18
have no live feeds. plus. The.
1:35:20
Competitions not being played their
1:35:22
i really really sunk a
1:35:24
bizarre but a I did
1:35:26
enjoy this year. Hopefully you
1:35:28
guys had fun with it
1:35:30
as well because the Us
1:35:32
will be starting I believe
1:35:34
they announce now in July
1:35:36
July seventeen. And
1:35:39
thing. So.
1:35:41
You know where were common? Come right back
1:35:43
up with live seeds. will be back and
1:35:45
for as much fun as I had with
1:35:47
this disease. And like. The.
1:35:50
Man another Maglev. even even in this
1:35:52
arena. And. Kinda
1:35:54
there. Exists a like.
1:35:57
The A could be the worst. Oh and the world's it could
1:35:59
be the worst. In the world when his
1:36:01
life he had, there's just something I
1:36:03
own eyes. I'm excited for us for
1:36:05
that. Makes you stay tuned. I'll be
1:36:07
streaming on switch to is a Tv
1:36:09
Flash and tear in Armstrong watching Survivor
1:36:11
which is still going men in a
1:36:13
Thought in all kinds of stuff. The.
1:36:17
Backyard Interviews again will hopefully be up soon as
1:36:19
well if you wanna check those out, The
1:36:23
I stay tuned I'm on where you would have
1:36:25
gone on. Ah,
1:36:28
I'm a big earner big brother
1:36:30
on drag race. All Stars Nine
1:36:32
The yes You heard that right
1:36:34
off or nine is starting up
1:36:37
on May seventeenth, Amelie on and
1:36:39
best will be back! Covering the
1:36:41
nine authors season of drivers, I
1:36:43
cannot believe I believe we just
1:36:45
crown season six teams winner and
1:36:47
yet here we are again so
1:36:50
we'll be back for that. The
1:36:52
mess of looks. Ah
1:36:55
Melissa year you and upon.
1:36:59
Ah, I'm just waiting serving rather
1:37:01
than start again assistance and things
1:37:03
like. This. Are I
1:37:05
always worth? Minds are at It's
1:37:08
Melissa. Sir
1:37:10
His. Room. Thank.
1:37:13
You again for joining us
1:37:15
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