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3:03

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3:05

here or there, but. We're

3:09

here to targets listening to

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them to Twelve finale with

3:13

other sources of as. A

3:17

little bit about the service as

3:19

okay that's okay knows me really

3:21

really do our best year as

3:23

an hour and there's and trade

3:25

off to me being as the

3:27

finale one of which is I

3:29

might occasionally not be. As

3:33

business as. A

3:35

warrior to talk about. Thought about

3:37

and we're always. We're

3:40

here to argue about my dominant

3:42

draft when. Both. Files

3:44

to ah and on my team.

3:48

And the yeah I got America saver

3:50

can is there a player which I

3:52

feel. like i get fairly often

3:54

listen that's that's the easiest thing

3:56

in the world's to present everyone

3:59

our I still got it. Give me

4:01

credit. While

4:06

you're hearing her with us to

4:08

talk about this wild finale

4:10

is Melissa. How

4:13

are you doing Melissa? I'm doing great. That

4:15

really was a wild finale. I honestly thought

4:18

going into it, like we already know what's

4:20

going to happen here. Like this

4:22

finale is just kind of, we're

4:24

just going to go through it and that's all. But

4:27

when Anthony picked

4:29

Bailey to go to the final two, I

4:32

literally just sat there going, what, what,

4:36

what? Like out loud to the point

4:38

where Dennis was like, what's going on?

4:40

Like what's happening? It was like so

4:42

shocking. So, um, very exciting finale. Um,

4:45

yeah, what a wild ride. A

4:48

wild ride indeed. Also joining us.

4:52

It's Iman. Hey guys.

4:54

Happy to be back. Um,

4:56

yeah, was a very wild

4:58

ride tonight. Um, I'm

5:01

still sort of grappling with

5:03

it. I don't necessarily know how I

5:06

feel about it quite yet. Um, this

5:09

is a, yeah,

5:12

I feel like there's a lot to dissect. So I'm

5:15

happy to be on such a

5:17

tumultuous finale episode. Everybody can't do

5:19

that. So happy to be back.

5:21

Thank you guys for those that are staying up on

5:23

the East coast to watch us talk

5:25

about everything tonight. So this will be a good

5:27

one. I'm excited. Yes. I totally agree

5:29

with the one though. Like I, I don't know

5:32

how I feel really about it. Like, I feel

5:34

like it was really exciting, but like, I

5:36

feel like I wanted both of them

5:39

to win. And so I was kind

5:41

of just like, like, and I

5:43

don't know, I feel like Bailey

5:45

deserved the win. She had amazing

5:47

answers, amazing speech, everything. Like

5:49

it was leading towards the wind.

5:52

She was the underdog. It was

5:54

very exciting, but at the same

5:56

time Anthony played such a dominant

5:58

game the entire time. And,

6:00

you know, he had a great speech as well.

6:02

And just to like, see it kind of all

6:05

fall apart at the end was just like, it

6:07

was devastating. You could see in his face that

6:09

he was like, I made the wrong choice. Like,

6:12

oh my God, like, as it started to kind

6:14

of come together. And I just, I just felt

6:16

for him. I really, I really do love Anthony.

6:18

And so it was really, it was

6:20

tough. I don't know, like,

6:23

I'm very happy, but I also am

6:25

also feeling for Anthony and feeling sad.

6:27

So I'm like, I don't know. I'm

6:29

both. Yeah. I

6:32

mean, I think for me, one of the

6:35

biggest questions of the night is how would

6:37

Anthony have actually fared against

6:39

Lexus? I think

6:41

undeniably, it's, he has a

6:43

much better shot, but

6:46

I'm not convinced that he

6:48

doesn't still lose. And

6:52

and I think, you know, it's we're gonna have to find

6:54

out from from the jury. But yes, I

6:56

mean, huge moments. The HOH

6:58

was extremely dramatic,

7:00

the final part three. And

7:03

then the big shot, I mean, the

7:06

room erupted when he took Bailey. There

7:08

were a lot of Bailey fans, a

7:10

lot of lot of people in the

7:13

audience. That level of screaming

7:15

was almost like it reminded me so

7:18

much of the double eviction

7:20

in BB can five when I

7:22

was like laying into

7:24

Netta and the entire audience

7:27

just like screamed I instantly was brought back

7:29

to that moment with that level of screaming. I was like, oh,

7:31

my God, like this is about to be

7:33

some shit. It

7:37

reminded me of Paris versus Kayla, where it

7:40

was like when Paris was talking about everybody

7:42

was just like, yeah, that's right. And when

7:44

Kayla was talking, it was like, no, we're

7:46

not we're not into this. Like the second

7:48

you hear that, you're like, oh, OK, I

7:51

know where this is going. And

7:53

I'm surprised that Anthony didn't like pick up on

7:55

some of that, because I feel like there was

7:57

some Noise like prior.

8:00

The to him making that decision like I

8:02

when they were giving the answers and Bailey

8:04

would get an answer right like isolate the

8:06

crowd would like so while and I don't

8:08

know how much of that they can hear

8:10

but if you can hear any of that

8:12

I feel like he probably should be thinking

8:14

to himself like. Weird

8:16

that every time she is an answer re

8:19

the crowd is like loving estimate them when

8:21

weeds I ever have has like I'm. So.

8:24

I don't know he will that. It was

8:26

very interesting. In the crowd I think definitely

8:28

plays a part in Big Brother Combat I'm

8:30

not and the really in the Us by

8:32

it's Awfully Big Brother Canada. Yeah.

8:35

For sure. For. Her since know

8:37

the honestly I feel like it

8:39

was such a like. I was

8:41

very pleasantly surprised with the finale

8:43

because I really did go into

8:45

it thinking it was a done

8:47

deal and Anthony I'd I'd be.

8:49

I honestly thought like okay Anthony

8:51

thirty one night What. Are we doing

8:53

here? And it's. To see a play

8:56

out this way it was just so surprising

8:58

and to see the fact that village the

9:00

boats were. And. Is I think everyone

9:02

felt betrayed by Anthony. I don't know

9:04

exactly where it all fell apart icily.

9:06

Everyone in the jury was a ceiling.

9:09

Some. Sort away about the way

9:11

that they went out. And

9:13

I don't know exactly like.

9:16

Is one move or like multiple moves was

9:18

the problem but I really as if you

9:20

may know where it fell apart like please

9:22

let me know because. I really don't now.

9:25

He. Has a was a I've I've

9:27

swapped over to my my phone

9:29

mobile hotspot to see if this

9:32

is any better than the food.

9:34

so I buy hopefully emitter the

9:36

and better. Will. Say listen

9:38

that snow the sorry state of affairs with a

9:41

social. Call

9:44

them out com. And

9:47

will hear his ears are also Devise

9:49

is obviously like I I I experienced

9:51

as a little bit differently than the

9:53

most people I was in the audience

9:55

I was actually. Like

9:57

right up in front, right next

9:59

to. The jury. May

10:01

and let me tell you I was

10:03

just watching them they'll hold a hand.

10:06

I was very curious to try to

10:08

to see allow like not only what

10:10

they were thinking but like how they

10:13

were thinking it and my perspective very

10:15

much was our first one was are

10:17

surprised. That. They did not

10:19

seem surprised. At Lexus being

10:22

evicted I thought they were going to

10:24

be like, really saw I thought, maybe

10:26

even elaborate. But.

10:29

They seem very dislike of that.

10:31

Ah, and that was either vibe

10:34

the whole time. I'm. Dead.

10:37

I'm. Very much got the

10:39

vibe that this was not. This.

10:42

Would not a change in plan by

10:44

and I don't think that surprising, But

10:46

like they very much knew what they

10:48

were doing, they rarely even like talks

10:50

to each other. There was a there

10:52

were a couple of exchanges between Tola

10:54

and Kale Ayatollah Avery, which were mostly

10:56

like. Me: yeah.

10:59

Like fist bumping like we're We're still.

11:01

I've been. Yes, we're So I've been.

11:05

The only person that I think might

11:07

have actually change their vote was Goose

11:10

who did seem to have like a

11:12

quizzical conversation briefly with Kayla. Ah and

11:14

then when boost cast his vote for

11:17

Anthony I saw toll a give like

11:19

a new like a confused face as

11:21

though he weren't He was innocent and

11:23

wasn't expecting Anthony both from Gustaf. ah

11:26

I'm not sure will have the As

11:28

Goose but or but the overall vibe

11:30

I would say is that they very

11:33

much came into this planning to vote

11:35

for. Not. Anthony met

11:37

and and every

11:40

time Bailey mentioned

11:42

loyalty, honesty, Avery

11:44

was like. Yes, Yes,

11:47

Yes, Yes yes. Don't

11:49

see their. i kind of like

11:51

a hastily where every time i imagine i

11:53

loved her thieves ice anytime soon as i

11:55

blaze of most loyalists game i played the

11:58

that like it was like Oh, I don't

12:00

know. For me, I'm like, I was the

12:02

most honest game. I

12:04

don't value that in a player, to be

12:06

honest. So I was kind of like, oh,

12:08

OK, like this is what we're going

12:10

with. But I think with

12:12

this jury, it certainly helped because

12:15

you could tell they were all

12:17

really upset that Anthony betrayed them.

12:19

So the idea that like, oh,

12:21

well, this other person who is

12:23

in the final two didn't betray

12:25

anyone and was true to her

12:27

word. Like, I love that. So

12:29

I think she was like really

12:31

playing it up for the crowd.

12:33

But yeah, it to me, it's

12:35

kind of like, OK, I don't

12:37

that doesn't really win any points with me like

12:40

I don't care about that. But the rest

12:42

of it, I love the king and the

12:44

queen, the chess analogy. I thought that was

12:46

excellent. I thought

12:48

her speech was delivered really well. It's

12:50

like really passionate. I thought like it

12:53

was so hard for Anthony to follow

12:55

that up. I think he did do a good

12:57

job with this speech, but it did feel maybe

12:59

less passionate than hers. It felt like he was

13:01

kind of just saying the words,

13:03

but hers felt like she really, truly wanted it

13:06

and believed it. And maybe at that point he

13:08

was kind of like he could see the writing

13:10

on the wall and was kind of I

13:13

mean, it's got to be hard to give like a

13:15

passionate speech after that, but yeah, yeah, I

13:17

don't know. I

13:20

think the jury just valued loyalty

13:22

above all, I guess. I

13:25

mean, I think I mean, all of the

13:27

people that are shouting out the parallels between this and

13:29

B.B. B.B. 19. I mean, I

13:31

think that there are definitely a lot of things that

13:33

we can compare it to. I think, you know, obviously

13:35

someone making it to the final two twice and losing

13:37

twice. There's that. I think it

13:39

being a vet versus a

13:42

newbie again, there's that. I think

13:44

with someone sort of already having known

13:46

to be sort of like more of

13:48

a dominant ish player. I don't know

13:51

if B.B. 18 Paul is

13:53

in the same vein as B.B. Ken

13:55

7 Anthony, but there's Still, like

13:57

a level of OK, there's some prestige here.

14:00

I'm coming into your second season whereas

14:02

like okay, Even if

14:04

he makes it, does anybody beat him

14:06

so that that conversation with definitely omnipresent

14:08

off the path like. Five.

14:10

Weeks doesn't It was deathly. A lot of

14:12

parallels there, but I do think that there's

14:15

Blake. I think

14:17

that. When it

14:19

comes to Anthony, I

14:22

don't know. His sleigh. He turned

14:24

up the juice. Quicken.

14:26

Us. In his second go

14:28

round in the same way that. Hall

14:31

did M B B Ninety Now of course

14:33

we can debate Paul be nineteen game in

14:35

all of it's monstrosity. A nastiness to

14:37

pick out. Both one.

14:39

Thing that all didn't believe nineteen

14:42

was see with balls the war.

14:44

He made sure that. All it

14:46

is ducks were in a row. He made sure that

14:48

this person was one of the this person was one

14:50

of the this person. was it like he created so

14:52

much to pay off in that in in his in

14:54

my house that he was always went from in on

14:57

top and I don't necessarily know if that is how

14:59

I would describe. Bb. Can swells

15:01

Anthony I feel like. Yes,

15:03

A lot of a lot of like the

15:05

lead worth that happened with this game in

15:07

the direction that was being scared when was

15:09

icy. And getting rid of her Yes,

15:11

like bird. the lions house on the wall.

15:14

But. At the same time. Is.

15:16

The rest of your game? interesting

15:18

enough or powerful enough to really.

15:21

Sway. This particular Juri. Because like

15:23

I said, Look.

15:26

Away with it at best and be been. I've

15:28

and another zola going like that but like I

15:30

think she was right you would like look there

15:33

is a thing of the bitter juror and I'm

15:35

a bit or juror and I don't think that

15:37

Anthony put that into account. The people were mad.

15:40

Or Mary Berry Mass the I had a bit

15:42

of a pop and with spicy I do because

15:44

I do feel a user but you won't have

15:46

any bearing. Still voted better. Sanlitun.

15:50

I don't know if I'm really asking would you

15:52

vote like that? Like I feel like I feel

15:54

like. The. Fact that Alija with

15:56

the only person to vote for him over you

15:58

that to me still for the live the other

16:01

way to me but. I think in

16:03

terms of everyone else like yeah I don't know

16:05

if you had the simulation ship with these jurors

16:07

that spicy did and so when you're a victim

16:09

spicy him and she goes into the house in

16:12

is ready to like Rials. I'm of the be

16:14

like oh yeah he betrayed you He betrayed me

16:16

to like yeah screw Anthony like. That.

16:18

Was that with a really really really.

16:22

I. Guess at this point insurmountable likes being

16:24

said to get over a so. It's

16:27

it's. A pizza Me as

16:30

like as as I was. I.

16:32

Was reminded so much of like why he

16:34

deserves to be in that final two and

16:36

why he did deserves to win the game

16:38

when he added final speech when he talked

16:40

about hobbies game isn't necessarily about just making

16:42

like winning com um it's about like your

16:45

social influences about not that in the block,

16:47

it's about being you know, Everywhere

16:49

at once. In try your best to just

16:51

remain as powerful as influence was possible to

16:53

get the right. You. Didn't do

16:56

that, but. He's you. Missed the

16:58

relationships along the way and I do since

17:00

it's usage so. Now. But significant been

17:02

home to roost and. You.

17:05

Lost again. So it's like it's.

17:08

Like part of it. But. I think

17:10

it's healthy way any part of

17:12

his allies he's meeting made those

17:14

relationships that then it's trade bad

17:16

without any sort of like. Like.

17:20

Making them feel better about it like that. especially with they

17:22

say see the like. I think

17:24

the we played that was totally wrong

17:27

because he kept telling her like I've

17:29

heard some things and now my opinion.

17:31

If you can have changed since I

17:33

know that's not what's going on here.

17:36

You. guys you you need to

17:38

tell her that you are budding her out because

17:40

she's a big threats here dame and i see

17:42

such a good player and that you don't think

17:45

you can win against or and now you have

17:47

to take the shot or whatever you have to

17:49

say that kind of seven i think that would

17:51

have landed so much better with her and this

17:53

whole like actually these outside influences are really getting

17:56

to me like i just don't think the now

17:58

with saying well if they're and even

18:00

after she evicted, the goodbye message to

18:02

her said the same thing. It was

18:05

still like, I just had people in

18:07

my ear. It's like that makes it

18:09

look like you were easily manipulated and

18:11

easily influenced versus I knew

18:14

that I couldn't beat you in the end. I

18:16

had to take the shot when I had the

18:18

chance. You would do the same thing with me.

18:20

Like I'm so sorry. You know, you're, I really

18:22

wanted to get to the end with you, but

18:24

I knew I couldn't beat you, so I had

18:26

to take the shot. Like that's what you got

18:28

to say. And I think that that would have

18:30

landed. Maybe she would have still been better about

18:32

it. I don't know. Maybe she would have been

18:34

like, well, I'm still mad. Fine. But I do

18:36

think that that would have at least been better

18:38

for her because I think that that's like the

18:40

ego boost that people need when they're getting evicted

18:42

is like, they want to hear that you're evicting

18:44

them because they're a good player, not because

18:46

you like heard some rumor, like it just

18:48

wouldn't, I don't know, I think it would

18:50

made an influence. I'll push

18:52

back on that a little bit because I think

18:55

that from what we saw

18:57

from spicy in the jury on

19:00

the finale. Um, I

19:03

don't, I don't think there's any shot she's ever

19:05

voting for Anthony. And it cause like a big

19:07

part of it too was like, she was like,

19:10

well, listen, she was like, I'm not bitter. I'll

19:12

vote for him as long as he owns his

19:14

game. And he very much did in, uh,

19:16

in his speech, right? Like he very much did say all

19:18

of those things. You were the biggest

19:21

threat. And I think he did fall into the trap

19:23

because I think he started the conversation

19:26

with spicy about why she

19:28

needed to leave with, with that message. Uh,

19:30

he talked a lot about how the only reason

19:32

he's made it this far is because of her,

19:34

she's a powerful player in the game. He talked

19:36

about a lot of those things, but

19:39

she kept coming at him with the angle

19:41

of how could you do this though? I

19:43

was so loyal. And I think he fell

19:45

into the trap of like arguing that point

19:47

because it wasn't true. Um,

19:49

and, uh, and he felt like, how

19:51

could you, you don't actually think

19:53

that I know all of the things that you've

19:56

been doing and he was naming correct things. It's

19:58

not like he was hearing incorrect. of

20:00

information and believing them. And

20:03

so, you know, I really, and

20:06

let me tell you, like, after

20:09

the game was over, like, she was still

20:11

had nothing to do with them. Like, like,

20:15

this is not a beast that has been

20:17

has been unbeast quite yet. And

20:20

I don't think you get that level of

20:22

vitriol, because of an explanation

20:25

that is that what

20:27

that was there that is accurate, like,

20:29

it to my mind, like, in my

20:32

eyes, the way I've really seen this,

20:34

since it's been clear that I think

20:36

Anthony probably loses. Like,

20:41

I think Anthony needed to

20:43

cut space spicy V

20:45

much sooner, I think she needed to go

20:48

pre jury, I think that's the only way

20:50

he ever wins the game. I don't think

20:52

he was ever going to win

20:54

with spicy on the jury. I think that there

20:56

was just no chance of that happening. Do

20:59

you think if spicy got to the end,

21:01

do you think she would win? Or do

21:04

you think it was like she had too much drama?

21:07

Well, that like, so here's the thing.

21:09

And I say that, but there's also a couple

21:11

of other things we could probably talk about. One

21:13

of which is the executive veto, which saves Todd,

21:16

and if it's VVIC, who definitely would have

21:18

been a vote for Anthony, I

21:20

don't know if this was in the finale,

21:23

but like, VVIC, very

21:25

much was like in support of Anthony, like,

21:27

you know, you played a great game. And

21:30

then Matt, who

21:32

leaves right after, who probably can't be evicted,

21:34

while they're still dealing with VVIC, at

21:37

least one of them, if not both of them making

21:39

the jury, makes probably all the difference, because I

21:41

think that Tola went

21:44

on to the jury as a pro Anthony

21:46

person. And over time, they really kind

21:49

of like massaged the

21:51

little bit of like, well, but he

21:53

didn't vote for me into like the

21:55

full blossom hatred where he's then fist

21:57

pumping Avery about how they're gonna. not

22:00

vote Anthony.

22:03

But if instead Matt and

22:06

Vivek are on the jury and he's

22:08

got people to be like, yeah, obviously

22:11

Anthony so on and so forth. I

22:14

think it's, again, potentially an entirely

22:16

different story, but Spicy

22:19

getting those extra people on the

22:22

jury really, I

22:24

think, made a huge difference. She definitely had

22:26

a lot of sway

22:29

over them. And

22:32

who knows, maybe without Spicy there,

22:36

they still would have been upset with Anthony. But

22:39

it doesn't take a

22:42

mathematician to connect the one

22:45

plus one was probably two. I

22:48

mean, if there was ever, I agree. Sorry,

22:50

Melissa, go ahead. No, no, you go ahead because

22:53

I'm going to bring up something else. So go

22:55

ahead. I was going to say,

22:57

no, I agree to a certain extent. I think that

23:00

Spicy was, like I said before, if there

23:02

was any shot of somebody like a Kayla

23:04

that did sort of get burned by some

23:06

of the lies that he put out there

23:08

about her, if there was ever any chance

23:12

of her sort of getting over it, I think

23:14

it was probably eviscerated by Spicy coming into the

23:16

jury. Because I think that

23:18

his answer to Kayla was like, yeah,

23:21

like I was afraid of going

23:23

to the end with all of you women, especially

23:25

all of you black women, because I don't

23:29

think I would have probably would not have won. And

23:31

he's probably correct in that. But I also think that

23:33

it's like such a double edged short when it comes

23:35

to hot chocolate. Because I think

23:37

that I'm not sure I think that I think

23:39

that all of them sort of I'm

23:43

sort of wrestling with how I feel about

23:45

how many of them handled

23:47

hot chocolate. Because, and again,

23:50

we didn't get feeds this

23:52

year. So it's really hard sometimes to

23:54

to really fill in all the blanks.

23:57

But To me, from what the things that we did get when it came out, I'm not sure

23:59

if it is a good thing. The hot chocolates. Sometimes I

24:01

felt like you was just out of

24:03

convenience, right? Like hot chocolate in the

24:06

cookout are not equal. Alliances not in

24:08

the mud. F and Flight Assist know.

24:11

Sometimes. I'm sitting there like. How.

24:13

Much of this actually does mean something to you

24:15

all on that level and how much of it

24:17

is this is something that I am using to

24:19

get myself. Further, In the game? Yes, I

24:21

can actually believe in it on some level. I don't

24:23

think that any of them. You. Know or

24:26

like. I don't think that it was

24:28

like states, but I don't know if it was.

24:31

A priority in the same way that

24:33

we saw with Bb Twenty Three, right?

24:35

And are no, I think that that.

24:38

Really? I

24:40

think that I think once on some

24:43

level I think because like hearing I'm.

24:46

Like this say to him you know you know that

24:48

loyalty over money or whenever I towards the end and

24:50

we heard her in her in for package for

24:52

the beginning of his emphasis on my her she wanted

24:54

to be the first black woman to win with

24:56

the wind big brother. I.

25:00

I don't think that out with us untruth but that's

25:02

not something that I guess is the only have like

25:04

in her narrative in my it. right?

25:06

And so when she was like. When. She felt

25:08

that burned at the end by getting caught

25:10

by him, which I totally understand. I

25:13

felt like that have more to do is hurt

25:15

his having the special relationship with Anthony because to

25:17

sort of turn on the wrath of hot chocolate.

25:19

For. Him. And. So. Now.

25:23

You're bringing back up as a reason

25:25

as to why Anthony Certain when some

25:27

like this does it feel it's not,

25:29

it's not to grew it to me.

25:31

So that's why my Billie Russell wrestling

25:33

with like. and

25:35

some of these both i get a put some symbolics.

25:38

I don't know about that's a simple

25:40

know city but. You. Know yet?

25:42

you're in your field that you've just gotta business. Unless

25:44

you have it. it's just. It's very it's

25:46

very hard to deal with right? I'm like, really really.

25:48

I can't wait to like, listen to the rest of

25:50

them. like really like have a moment to decompress and

25:53

then come back and talk to them, talk to us

25:55

about like their thought processes. For the right now I'm

25:57

a little a little confused. Yeah

25:59

I mean. I think obviously the

26:01

the decision. I think the most

26:03

shocking part of the finale was

26:06

the decision to take Bailey and

26:08

then the jury's response afterwards. But

26:10

ah but I think that like.

26:14

We. Need to talk about. How

26:16

the hell pay we manage security tax

26:19

rate hikes? Ah, because business really at

26:21

clearly. I think by the end of

26:23

the season. I know a

26:25

lot of a lot of people will remember this

26:28

as like. A deep

26:30

the season that Anthony lost a

26:32

second time. I know a lot

26:34

of people see this as the

26:36

season that like spicy had such

26:38

a strong influence over but to

26:40

me I don't. The true story

26:42

of this season was Bailey. Ah

26:45

met and how see? More.

26:47

Than anybody else, the

26:49

season managed to navigate

26:51

the waters between. Anthony.

26:54

Douglas and Spicy. The.

26:57

Ah, met, and how

26:59

treacherous those fuckers worth?

27:01

I bally's the person

27:04

who managed to. Stay

27:06

good with both of them. Nobody else

27:09

did that. I said there was

27:11

anthony side. there was spicy side.

27:14

And despite hot chocolate. There.

27:16

Was a divide within hot chocolate that

27:18

was not an alliance that truly cross

27:20

that bridge. The director is was not

27:23

an alliance The cross that bridge because

27:25

those alliances were destroyed and demolished. I

27:27

the only thing that truly cross the

27:29

bridge from one side to the other

27:32

and back again was Bailey and the

27:34

way that she was able to. I.

27:37

Say manipulate. I talked

27:39

to her about this. I've done some

27:41

interviews I I don't think it was

27:43

a malicious form of manipulation, but the

27:46

way the Bailey was able to push

27:48

her own agenda. On. too

27:50

spicy throughout most of the seasons

27:52

to put to back spicy into

27:54

a corner ah amid to play

27:57

her against anthony well spice He

27:59

takes all the heat. And

28:02

then also simultaneously able

28:04

to create this relationship with Anthony,

28:07

where she's openly challenging him and

28:09

yet he still comes around and

28:11

trusts her and by the end

28:14

of the game, chooses her over

28:17

everyone else and

28:19

gets the win because of it.

28:22

I think she has played an

28:24

extraordinary game, especially in the context

28:26

of a season

28:28

with returners, returnees. I

28:31

think that if you look at

28:34

most new player winners who have

28:36

won against returning players, you

28:38

usually do look at it in

28:41

a large way as like,

28:43

well, Paul screwed

28:45

up or well, the coaches

28:47

twist or well, Kudeta.

28:51

But in this case, I think Bayley

28:54

more than deserved this win. And

28:57

I think that the jury certainly was bitter,

28:59

but I think at the

29:01

same time, Bayley deserved the win. And

29:04

I think both can be true. And

29:06

I think that, you know,

29:08

I just think I'm very impressed with

29:10

the way that she managed to navigate

29:13

this game, because I do think it's even

29:15

more complex than most people would even right

29:17

now still give it credit for. Yeah,

29:20

I definitely don't think this was a

29:22

vote like against Anthony, like they

29:24

would vote for anyone as long as it

29:27

wasn't Anthony. Like I think they might have voted

29:29

for anyone, but at the same time, right. In

29:32

this particular situation, I do think they were voting

29:34

for Bayley. And I think that she

29:36

totally deserved it. I think that the way that she

29:39

played was so it was so well

29:41

done, but also it was so entertaining. I feel

29:43

like she was a really entertaining player. I wanted

29:45

her to stay around, like even when we didn't

29:47

know the players all that well near the beginning,

29:49

I felt like she was so fun to watch

29:51

that I was like, let's keep her around. I

29:53

don't want her to go yet. It

29:55

became more and more apparent that she

29:57

was actually playing a Really good game. Was

30:00

very impressed. I'm I think that you know.

30:02

I do think that it is very interesting

30:04

that the whole juri is like. I

30:07

you know free team loyalty and like oh

30:09

sticking with your allies and was like cheering

30:11

her on when she was saying that she

30:13

played the most loyal dame and they were

30:15

like we got a reward the muslim name

30:17

when like every single person on a jury

30:19

was betrayed their closest allies that like every

30:21

corner it was like literally any time they

30:23

said that he and the the opportunities to

30:25

betray their votes his allies that was like

30:27

this team of the season is like I'm

30:29

a Chili's and with my closest ally on

30:31

the block and get them out for one

30:33

reason or another and then like you know

30:35

you see aiming at the. End: Like to

30:38

name Lisa with Anthony is kicking out.

30:40

Alexis is like. I. Own a

30:42

white lie about the theme of the

30:44

season, but it really was on anything.

30:46

Bailey did such a good job navigating

30:49

the weirdness of bad because he says

30:51

really honestly, usually do that sort of

30:53

like sad sad move like ones in

30:55

a season but this is like every

30:57

single H O h it was like.

30:59

Okay, If your best ally when

31:02

they show a h you're probably

31:04

going home stadium and isn't enough.

31:06

Oh also the Psu like thinking

31:08

about it. Really

31:11

was up against Spicy in the final

31:13

two. I. Think see

31:15

as the very least as a very good chance

31:17

to still when. I

31:20

think I think that will probably

31:22

comes down to Anthony. Or

31:25

something like that and you know,

31:27

who knows. I think that. do

31:29

I feel like. I've

31:31

you a goose. Still might have

31:33

been inclined depending on what the

31:35

speeches were. I think Tola would

31:37

have been available. I think Kayla

31:40

would have been a be removed.

31:42

I'm not sure. But. I did

31:44

get a little bit of lakes and this

31:46

is busy me very much reading into things

31:48

but like I did get a little bit

31:51

of Caleb reacting a little weird lead to

31:53

some of was by suicide when they were

31:55

being questioned. like

31:58

there was maybe a little bit of agree really Spicy,

32:00

you're really gonna say this? But who

32:02

knows? So she might've been a

32:04

Bailey vote, taught obviously a Bailey vote, and all

32:06

of a sudden you're looking at three, maybe four

32:08

votes, and Bailey might've been able to be Spicy

32:10

as well. I do think she was probably one

32:13

of the biggest jury threats in the

32:15

jury, period, which

32:20

makes it all the more wild that Anthony, unfortunately,

32:23

mistook her for the person

32:26

he's here to be. And

32:28

I immediately drew this comparison because

32:33

Anthony inspired Kevin

32:35

Jacobs to play the game. He

32:37

took a lot from Anthony when

32:40

he played his game, and I

32:42

could not help but think about

32:45

Josh and the decision he made to

32:47

take Kevin, thinking that Kevin was the easier beat, and

32:50

how wild it is that Kevin,

32:52

inspired by Anthony, goes on to

32:54

convince somebody to take the wrong

32:57

person, him, to the final two,

32:59

and then Anthony comes on and

33:02

basically reverse Kevin Jacobs' himself. But

33:06

again, it's hard to say that because, well granted,

33:08

I think Josh probably also loses to Betty, so

33:10

maybe it was very similar in that

33:12

sense as well, where it's like, it was the worst of the

33:14

two decisions, but he still might've lost anyway. But

33:18

man, the poetic irony

33:20

there, I guess, is a lot. I

33:23

mean, look, Baylee, her perception of her game and

33:30

the way that she was able to explain it was, I

33:32

mean, just damn near flawless. I mean,

33:35

Anthony literally talked about being the most influential

33:37

person in the game, the most powerful, the

33:39

most dominant, the number one target in the

33:42

game, and Baylee said,

33:44

you're right, and I

33:46

manipulated you. So it's just like,

33:48

how do you trump that? You

33:51

trumped the trump card, you know what I mean? So I

33:53

feel like the whole, Obviously

33:56

the king and the queen chess

33:58

analogy was great. More than matches

34:01

for explaining we will. The best thing that

34:03

I could have done in this game is

34:05

adjustable friend Dnc. Because. I knew that

34:07

no matter what happens in this house, Key.

34:10

Is to have some kind of like hand

34:12

in his own some some level even if

34:14

is by proxy through five. Seats,

34:16

While also had a relationship with. I

34:19

had to do something and I think. That

34:22

would like such a major blinds, What's?

34:25

I also think that people aren't necessarily.

34:28

Late. Ah wrong when they talk

34:30

about like the slight flirtatious this that was

34:32

going on between the two of them and

34:34

I would not be surprised if that has

34:36

anything to do with emptiness. Would have like.

34:39

You. Know. The. Whole feminine

34:41

wiles him at all and I would

34:43

not be surprised if that really you

34:45

know swayed his his perception on because

34:47

I think that when you watch somebody

34:49

like Bill on a surface level where

34:51

she is touting Miss Arm is narrative

34:53

of being know back up against the

34:55

wall the entire time. Dislike being of

34:57

being a hot mess. right? I

34:59

got a beautiful masks Were you see that

35:02

when you hear that of France you think

35:04

that some said something that someone I can't

35:06

win The mother had to drag. But.

35:08

Now. She. Knew

35:10

she was a hot mess. She says you with

35:12

a mess. As you like, you're still going

35:14

to take me even if I am hot mess. Because.

35:18

I'm a mess, but I can still win because.

35:20

All about other people that I was a hot mess with.

35:23

Where. I thought messes. Sources: I

35:25

think the seat is bitter. Really good job of

35:27

explaining that in just stab. Selling.

35:30

Their narratives to the jury and damn. I

35:32

I feel for anthony because I mean lots

35:34

of I was in our say like ah

35:36

I was limited the draft I was I

35:38

keep our that. Out of the out another

35:41

he was in a win. But. I thought

35:43

that he was of in a when because other

35:45

people want to be on his ass the

35:47

entire time and I was completely wrong. He did

35:49

the same thing that he did the first time.

35:51

He was able to stay under the radar for

35:54

the most part. and the reason why

35:56

he ended up losing was because of the fact

35:58

that like i just redid the relationship that he

36:00

thought that he did and it just

36:03

didn't work out in that way. And so like, I

36:06

didn't think he was going to win, but towards like the

36:08

middle part of the season, towards the end game, I was

36:10

like, I don't see how he doesn't

36:12

now. Like, how do you let Anthony Douglas get to

36:14

the final two again and then not let him win

36:17

this game? And now I'm just like, Oh,

36:19

damn, what a blunder. And I feel for him because I

36:21

know this is like in a very, an emotional, an

36:24

emotional time for him. He's been

36:26

through the wringer and

36:30

it's unfortunate, but I think it's also just

36:32

a reminder that sometimes

36:35

that doesn't necessarily mean that you

36:37

should win, you know what I mean? Like it's not

36:40

that you're not that he's undeserving, but

36:42

sometimes like we all have, like we all have shit

36:44

that we're going through in our lives and that doesn't

36:47

necessarily mean that that's

36:49

something that should affect someone

36:51

else's vote for you to win. And so I

36:54

feel for him because I, you know, I knew

36:56

that this victory would have meant so much to

36:58

him, but at the same time, bitch, like you

37:01

made it to final two again, again. So

37:04

like that is a victory within itself.

37:06

And I just hope that he is able to

37:08

walk away from this and still like

37:10

feel that, You are still one of the

37:12

best big brother Canada players

37:14

out there, like bar

37:16

none. Like, so it's

37:18

just, uh, it's what a wild

37:21

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thing. I

40:00

think that was felt in

40:03

there in the audience. And

40:06

I don't know how much of it translated. And

40:08

I also don't want to like. Overstep,

40:11

but like. Anthony

40:14

was devastated, like

40:18

very devastated and

40:21

like it was it was brutal to

40:24

watch because he was like

40:26

trying to have his own moment and they

40:28

were like, no, no, come back up. You

40:30

got to take the photos like come on.

40:34

And he was like doing his best. But

40:37

like this is a guy who like

40:40

lost his best friend shortly before going

40:42

in, lost his job to come on

40:44

this show to do this again, like.

40:48

And like he has lost

40:50

a lot. And I think

40:52

that he really was

40:54

like, you know, healthy or not.

40:57

Really riding everything on this.

41:00

Like this is this was the one thing he

41:02

had. And I

41:05

think he was really, you know,

41:07

and I think you felt that, you know, not

41:10

only in the way that he played the game,

41:12

but also like in the way that he would

41:14

occasionally be on the on the drops that

41:17

like, you know, this was this was a lot a

41:19

lot to be going

41:21

through while

41:23

going through a lot of other things. And

41:25

to lose in this way in particular was

41:28

I think really brutal. And

41:32

and, you know, like I said, he

41:35

didn't have as many people there either like

41:37

like there were a lot of, you know,

41:39

cheers and a lot of people who were

41:41

there for other people. And

41:43

it didn't seem like there were that many

41:45

people who were there for Anthony. And like,

41:48

you know, I was talking to some people in the audience.

41:51

We were like, man, we hope this guy is all right.

41:53

Like, you know, this

41:55

this really it was it was

41:57

bad. I talked to him in the backyard. And

42:00

he's definitely like just still in a

42:02

haze like you know, and I

42:04

hope I hope he you know I hope he's able to

42:06

do well after this. It is just a

42:09

game. It's just a show but like it definitely

42:11

meant a lot to him and And

42:15

I think you know There were

42:17

definitely a lot of people that were feeling for him in that

42:20

moment because you know

42:22

it it's and I think

42:24

for him to it's like it's hard to open

42:27

up about stuff like that and so You

42:30

know, I even said before the finale I

42:32

was like I really think if he wants

42:34

any shot of winning He needs to get

42:36

vulnerable with the jury and I felt during

42:38

the questions He wasn't right like it was

42:40

it felt rehearsed. It felt not emotional not

42:43

passionate Yeah, but

42:45

you heard it in his opening to

42:47

the episode talking about what what I

42:49

just said And he brought

42:51

it into his final speech a little bit and

42:53

he tried to be tried to like pull in

42:55

on that vulnerability and You

42:58

know and let me tell you and

43:01

I don't know if he noticed but like the

43:03

jury was barely paying attention Like

43:06

they were looking at the audience for their family members. Like

43:08

it was not They didn't

43:10

care. So it was definitely it was brutal.

43:12

It was it was a brutal experience to

43:15

watch in person for sure But

43:17

that's like that That's like the point that I want

43:20

to continue to drive home and I don't know if

43:22

Anthony will ever watch anything like this Or if it'll

43:24

ever reach in the areas but like honestly again like

43:27

for you to have been going through all of

43:29

this stuff that you have been going through and

43:31

you Still did as well

43:33

as you did that is Amazing

43:37

like I Like

43:40

it life is hard, okay life is

43:43

hard let alone a dumbass game like

43:45

Big Brother So for you to compound

43:47

both of those experiences into such a short

43:49

amount of time and still do as well

43:51

I think that that is like Truly

43:54

commendable and yes, like we're gonna have like

43:57

these things in our lives that we put

43:59

so much emotional weight and stock

44:01

into that it's going to feel

44:03

like such a lot if it doesn't go the way that

44:05

we want to. But like, I

44:08

just I am I am I'm

44:11

truly keeping him in my prayers that

44:13

he is able to see the light

44:15

and what he has accomplished again, because

44:18

there are very few people. He

44:20

is in an elite class of people that

44:22

have been able to get to the final

44:24

two twice. Like, and that's

44:27

I just I just I just want to make

44:29

sure that that is like, it's always like

44:31

top of mind for everyone and for him

44:33

because that's that's it's that's amazing. That's

44:36

amazing. No, like how many people can say that they've

44:38

done that? Three off the top of my

44:40

head. And

44:42

personally, I definitely feel like

44:44

he played better than than

44:47

Paul for a couple

44:50

of reasons. First

44:52

of all, Paul's first game. Not

44:55

much to write home about Paul's

44:58

second game played from ahead the whole time. Anthony

45:00

was forced to play from behind a lot of

45:03

the time in this season. He has to pull

45:05

off some big things. Also like

45:07

in terms of bitter juries, even though

45:09

Paul came closer, like Paul definitely deserved

45:15

quote unquote, the bitter jury, a significant

45:18

amount more in terms of

45:20

their behavior that

45:22

season compared

45:24

to like Anthony being kind of a douche

45:27

at times, you know what I mean? And being

45:29

cut throat. So, yeah, I

45:31

mean, in terms of I think the

45:34

big brother, two

45:36

time jury loss person, I think

45:38

Anthony is kind of the new

45:40

gold standard for it. And

45:44

and his in his record

45:46

of not being nominated is

45:48

certainly hasn't nobody's come

45:51

close. So he

45:53

definitely has all that going for him. But

45:55

but yes, unable to Clench

45:57

the wind here. Very

46:00

little bit about Lexus he

46:02

goes in the radically see

46:04

was very close to also

46:06

winning sympathy. And

46:10

ah, I. Think

46:12

very understandably. I think probably

46:14

more than than anybody on

46:17

that jury. the most like

46:19

understandable like his career is

46:22

Anthony Fire me I believe

46:24

like or as cause. You

46:27

just don't have a she had no idea of a he was gonna

46:29

do that either. What she was like oh. Really?

46:32

Oh. Okay I prefer. I

46:34

mean for illicit Each or you tell

46:36

me what you as your feelings. Because.

46:40

Be as I I've I've been saying for a

46:42

while. I think. Don't. Sleep on the

46:44

chance that Anthony takes. Bailey. To

46:46

the final two. And

46:48

the crowd. It certainly was

46:51

like Anthony One. Lexus.

46:53

Is in the final two with

46:55

Anthony for sure and I was

46:57

like. I'd.

47:00

Really like we haven't. We

47:03

haven't seen anything from the jobs in

47:05

almost a week. I'm Anthony

47:07

I think A I've seen him promise

47:09

left his file to once in like

47:11

seventy days I've been in Promise: Bailey

47:14

Final Do. Probably. About twenty

47:16

times I like. There's.

47:18

Definitely a chance. And then. He'd

47:21

I've I've switched up at the last

47:23

I cannot. he said. I.

47:25

Have to choose the person. I. Once had

47:27

that I think I can do. I want our

47:29

in our way of our He really is using

47:31

Lexis. Failure. But

47:34

it's first sir oh my god

47:36

when daily life that finally to

47:39

h L sec ah service for

47:41

her that's so sad. And then

47:43

it was like, wait, what is this?

47:45

Is auto to area really

47:47

like ah damn machine gun

47:49

or airways said that she

47:51

was I am like until

47:53

evening and then he have

47:55

acknowledged are you like good

47:58

great reasoning sister Elizabeth. I

48:00

could not believe that that happened. I honestly

48:02

just sat there in shock. I

48:05

mean, that is not what I expected to

48:07

happen at all. It

48:09

was wild. Yeah, I, again,

48:12

I think I'm

48:14

really not, I really think that there

48:16

is something to be said about like

48:18

the flirtatiousness between him and Bailey. And

48:21

I also think that there is something to be

48:23

said again about how Anthony probably

48:26

was very weary about going to

48:28

final two with a black

48:30

girl when there are so many black

48:32

women on that jury. And he just,

48:34

I'm sure the Monte

48:37

Taylor parallels were just spinning in his

48:39

head. And I don't

48:44

think that that's an, I don't think that's

48:46

necessarily an incorrect read either. Cause like now that

48:48

we know how this jury was feeling, that might

48:50

have been the case. So I'm starting

48:54

to see, I'm starting to see what you were saying

48:56

earlier, Taryn, that

48:59

maybe this was just an unwinnable finale.

49:01

Like I don't know if

49:03

Anthony really had the juice this

49:05

time to really take it home. And

49:09

that's sort of a tough

49:11

pill to swallow because for

49:13

you to play such a game that you

49:16

did for you to be

49:18

in a situation where no matter what you

49:20

do, there's a big chance that you still

49:22

lose. Maybe

49:24

the vote is four three with Lexus and

49:27

you still lose. But that's better than six one.

49:31

You know what I mean? Yeah, well,

49:33

I mean, let's try to briefly

49:35

think it through. If he cuts

49:37

Bailey takes Lexus, I

49:39

think we can assume, let's

49:42

assume Spicy is still against him. It's

49:45

Todd, or actually I don't know where

49:47

Todd goes, but it's Spicy,

49:50

probably Kayla, Avery,

49:54

like he potentially fears. And

49:57

then like if Tola's with them, which it seems like

49:59

he was. then that's it already.

50:01

Like he still loses,

50:03

even if he gets everybody else, which

50:07

means he basically still needs, like

50:09

he just always needs spicy.

50:13

And it's just, I don't know

50:15

that that was ever gonna happen.

50:20

And yeah, go ahead. I

50:22

think that, yeah, I think like what we've just

50:24

been saying the entire, the whole story of this

50:27

season, it's just about like how spicy

50:29

has really just been, you know, running

50:32

around circles around him, getting rid of his allies,

50:34

really just chopping him off at the knees. And

50:37

then when it comes down to it, like all

50:39

of spicy's allies are on that damn jury. And

50:41

it's just like, will

50:44

you have left to really be in your corner to

50:46

really be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

50:48

look, come on now, this is Anthony Douglas we're talking

50:51

about, like let's not, like

50:53

I'm still kind of, I'm still shocked about Tola, to

50:55

be honest. That to me

50:57

just feels so. Yeah.

51:01

And in talking about Tola as

51:03

well, like I again

51:06

want to point out that I think

51:08

we have to make sure we are

51:10

crediting Bayley because Bayley

51:12

developed a relationship with Tola similar

51:15

to the one she developed with Anthony. Whereas like, like

51:18

they went at it, at each

51:20

other. Bayley has this

51:22

really great quality and it's

51:24

maybe because she's like, just

51:27

she does this in real life and she's very

51:29

used to speaking her mind.

51:33

But like she's really good at

51:35

speaking her mind, getting into conflict

51:37

with people and then resolving

51:40

it. And I think that's

51:42

a large part of why she was able

51:44

to build so much trust because it's a

51:47

unique skillset that doesn't usually come into big

51:49

brother. I mean, you know, it's almost

51:51

like the very opposite. In

51:53

fact, it probably is the very opposite of Dan Because

51:56

Dan's thing was always avoid, avoid,

51:59

avoid conflict. Any but

52:01

like not not in nepal sense but in the

52:03

like. You. Are blaming me?

52:05

You're right. The Blame Me. And

52:08

regional conflicts because you just accepting

52:10

it always. Rate. Of

52:13

but we're Bailey does is she

52:15

fights back to like oh screw.

52:19

To do this I have every right to

52:21

feel this way and they get into a

52:23

back and forth. Her and Anthony, Her and

52:25

Zola. But what? She's

52:27

really good as. Is. Finding

52:30

the tipping point. And instead

52:32

of going. Like down

52:34

she finds that tipping point

52:36

and says okay, now let's.

52:39

Go. Back. Let's return. right?

52:42

Like, let's let's pull a back Now

52:44

that we've expressed our feelings, we've been

52:46

honest with each other and bomb. Isn't

52:49

that Mr. So better? Like. We

52:51

were close. As you have gone to the

52:53

bottom of this ah let's because we've gotten

52:56

through it. We can really move on re

52:58

like we can root now we can trust

53:00

each other more so then somebody who's not

53:02

going to be up with you about a

53:04

feel about. And

53:07

she did that well with Zola. I think

53:09

that. I.

53:12

Were about to. I think. talk about. Though

53:14

is. Weird. Bitterness. But I

53:16

think without that groundwork from Bailey, that

53:18

bitterness I don't think translates to an

53:21

anti Anthony both I you know, and

53:23

I think he could have been Alexis.

53:25

Oh, but that's because he also added

53:27

rarely Ship of Lexus. I think that

53:29

like. You know, for

53:32

instance, Spicy. Vs Anthony i

53:34

think tall as and Anthony both. But.

53:37

Because Bailey put a network you

53:39

know issue she was able to

53:41

pick up that that key votes

53:43

will. Key and the

53:45

Census is one of the

53:47

Anthony's cornerstones of. But. Yeah.

53:51

Toler, What?

53:53

Is going on. It. Sound.

53:56

now he's like upset about

53:58

this vote theoretically. And I

54:03

like I've he like again,

54:05

he did not seem to have much time for

54:08

Anthony at that point. Like he was he was

54:10

fist bumping Avery. He was

54:13

like, you know, I caught

54:15

him shaking his head once or twice at what

54:17

Anthony was saying. And I

54:20

know and I was just like, like, where did

54:22

this come from? Like, is it is

54:24

it really just the vote? Right?

54:27

Like, that's all I can think of. But

54:29

then but then I remembered in the jury

54:31

round table, when Todd showed up, and Avery

54:33

was like, Todd, you're

54:36

just a Bailey puppet. And

54:39

he's like, what do you mean? I'm

54:42

her ally. He's like, no,

54:44

you're her puppet. And

54:47

it made me wonder if that's

54:49

what they've been saying to Tola the

54:51

whole time as well. Like you thought

54:54

you were friends with Anthony Douglas? Like,

54:57

he chewed you up and you

54:59

out bro. He never cared about

55:01

you. You were his puppet. Meanwhile,

55:03

the dude's crying for him. Yeah, I

55:06

was gonna say, meanwhile, he's crying. Like,

55:08

I feel like he did care about him. But

55:10

okay. But yeah, I mean,

55:12

I mean, that speaks, I think, to the strength

55:14

of the the

55:17

tenor of that jury house and the

55:19

sort of like, feeling

55:22

that they were having about the situation.

55:25

And I think there's always, I think that

55:28

there's like a combination of what you were

55:30

talking about before, with like his contention with

55:32

Bailey and this like little

55:34

frenemy thing that they had going on. I think

55:37

that there is like, an

55:39

affinity for obviously wanting to vote

55:42

for the winner, right? Like, not not

55:44

everybody is okay with not

55:47

voting with the majority of the jury

55:49

and going with who they believe is

55:51

going to win the season. So I

55:53

do think that there is some of

55:55

that in there as well with him.

55:58

It's unfortunate because again, And

56:00

I do think, I think

56:02

that Anthony made the wrong decision, obviously, but I do

56:04

think that I think that there probably could have been

56:06

maybe one or two more votes in there that could

56:09

have been for him that I think it's a shame

56:11

that he was not able to get. And again, that

56:13

just goes to show just like how, you know,

56:16

again, the relationships

56:18

just weren't there. And like you

56:21

said, Taryn, this, you know, Bailey

56:23

just really being able to be

56:26

a little bit more in your face with everybody. I

56:29

mean, with both her allies and her enemies,

56:31

like in just being able to just be

56:34

out in the open about it all. I don't even

56:36

necessarily know if like honesty and loyalty are like the

56:38

phrases that she should be going with. I think that

56:41

she really should just be talking about like, well, look,

56:43

like we got into a bitch and

56:47

I'm still here. You know what I mean? It's

56:50

interesting. It's kind of like a parallel with like

56:52

Josh versus Paul. Like Josh got into

56:54

it with everybody. And one of the things that

56:56

Cody said when going, I mean, he was obviously

56:58

bitter with Paul, but one of the things that

57:00

he did say in in in like reference and

57:02

in support of Josh was like, at

57:05

least Josh was like in your face.

57:07

At least Josh came up to you and,

57:10

you know, he would get in, he would get into

57:12

it. He would cry afterwards and I was annoying, but

57:15

at least he didn't like hide. And

57:17

I think that Bailey similarly, obviously not as messy

57:19

as Josh, because who can ever be as messy

57:21

as Josh Martinez? But similarly, like, you

57:23

know, she was in your face. And

57:25

that was it. So I think

57:28

that I think there's a little bit of that with Tolle. It's

57:30

like, oh, yeah, we got into a little bit. I kind of

57:32

want to vote for the person that I was I was I

57:34

was fighting with. You know what I mean? So. Yeah.

57:38

And I think like, I mean, not only that, but

57:40

I think Bailey was just like, I think

57:43

she was really smart about the conversations

57:45

that she had. I mean, like, obviously

57:47

we don't get to see all the

57:49

conversations, but like, for example,

57:51

when Anthony was like revealing

57:53

to her about hot chocolate

57:55

and then she like

57:58

totally clocked that he. mentioned

58:00

Lexus as being part

58:03

of it. And she's like, oh, is Lexus part

58:05

of it? And then he's all like, oh, no,

58:07

no, no. And I feel like so

58:09

many players, we would sit there and be like,

58:11

oh, he just said Lexus. He just said Lexus.

58:14

Notice that. But I feel like a lot of

58:16

people might not notice that. And they might just

58:18

kind of be like, oh, he's just talking generally.

58:21

OK, whatever. And not really put two and two

58:23

together. And so I do think that I was

58:25

very impressed with her in that moment. And I

58:27

feel like there were many other moments like that

58:29

where it was like, I mean, for example, when

58:33

she was going to go on the block, and then she's

58:35

like, I don't want to go. She was

58:37

very much like, I'm going to speak my mind and I'm going

58:39

to say that I don't want to go on the block. And

58:41

I feel like having

58:43

somebody be not

58:45

afraid, but more like, I

58:48

don't want her to be mad

58:50

at me for putting her on the block. Or I

58:52

feel like that would be worse for me to put her on

58:54

the block because she will express that she doesn't

58:56

want to go on the block and that she's upset

58:58

that she goes on the block or whatever. I

59:01

feel like there is power in that, whereas a

59:03

lot of people are like, oh, the safer move

59:06

is to just be OK with it

59:08

and show that I'm a good team player,

59:10

which is always the worst to me. So I did really

59:12

appreciate that she was like, no, I'm going to say I

59:14

don't want to go on the block. Of course I don't

59:16

want to go on the block. And then she wouldn't go

59:19

on the block. So I really

59:21

do appreciate Bailey's game a

59:23

lot. I honestly just wish we could have

59:25

seen it on the live feed. I

59:29

really wish I could have seen her play because

59:31

I feel like not only is she a

59:33

really good player, but also really fun and exciting.

59:36

And we don't get to see any of

59:38

it. So I also feel like it

59:41

is hard for me to sit

59:43

there and compare her game to other players

59:45

that we have seen on the live feeds

59:47

because I really don't know what her game

59:50

was truly. So I only

59:52

see what was given to me. And

59:54

so I feel like as much

59:56

as I do really appreciate her win, I wish

59:58

I could have. gotten the full picture

1:00:01

of it so we could be like, oh, this

1:00:03

is how she would rank versus other bank brother

1:00:05

winners or whatever. And I feel like I don't

1:00:07

truly know. Yeah.

1:00:09

And, you know, I guess I don't want

1:00:11

it to go unsaid because I think

1:00:14

I've talked about Bailey's game throughout

1:00:16

the season. But

1:00:18

I know that there are probably people

1:00:21

tuning into the finale podcast who didn't

1:00:23

check out all the coverage throughout the

1:00:25

season. And fairly

1:00:28

so. There's

1:00:32

no live feeds. So

1:00:35

I guess it's worth reiterating

1:00:37

some of the highlights of

1:00:39

Bailey's game. We talked a lot about how she operates

1:00:42

in terms of being upfront with

1:00:45

people. But I talked

1:00:47

about how she, quote, unquote,

1:00:49

manipulates Spicy throughout the game.

1:00:51

And I think, and

1:00:53

I talked to her about this a little bit

1:00:55

that, like, she

1:00:58

does this despite not knowing

1:01:01

any of what's actually happening, right?

1:01:03

Like, she doesn't know about hot

1:01:06

chocolate. She doesn't know about hotter

1:01:08

chocolate. She doesn't know about the

1:01:10

directors. She

1:01:12

doesn't know about a lot

1:01:15

of these allies. She doesn't know

1:01:17

about Spicy's various final fours with

1:01:19

Matt and Lexus final threes with

1:01:21

Anthony and Tola. Like she doesn't

1:01:23

know about any of this. And

1:01:26

she, she only knows her own sliver

1:01:29

of the game. And there are

1:01:31

other players like Avery and Kayla and

1:01:34

Tola and Matt and

1:01:37

all of these other players who knew

1:01:40

a lot more than Bailey most of

1:01:42

the time. And yet

1:01:46

allowed others to like, take

1:01:49

control of their game at various

1:01:52

points in the season. But Bailey,

1:01:54

with her sliver of the game was

1:01:57

like, no, this

1:01:59

is what we've got, this is the way

1:02:01

to go. And even though

1:02:04

it it rarely made sense for

1:02:06

Spicy's game, Spicy

1:02:09

backs herself into a corner trying

1:02:11

to keep Todd safe.

1:02:14

Todd, who is not a

1:02:17

Spicy puppet, but

1:02:19

a Bailey one, if that's the word you want

1:02:21

to use. Spicy

1:02:23

went so far out of her way to

1:02:25

protect Bailey's person, Todd,

1:02:27

that she ended up losing both

1:02:30

of her own people, Kayla and

1:02:32

Avery. And

1:02:35

that's a testament to just

1:02:37

how forceful, without being

1:02:39

overbearing, Bailey was able to be throughout

1:02:41

the game where she

1:02:44

was advocating

1:02:46

for, this is what is

1:02:48

best for us. And

1:02:51

she was being completely honest about it. It

1:02:54

just, it was only not the truth because she

1:02:56

didn't know. She didn't

1:02:59

know there were other options. She didn't know

1:03:01

there were other paths that were much better

1:03:03

for Spicy. But she was

1:03:05

so convincing that Spicy believed her anyway

1:03:07

and went on that path with her.

1:03:10

And then she did the same thing to Anthony

1:03:13

Douglas, right? Like,

1:03:16

that was her strength in the

1:03:18

game. She was always willing to

1:03:21

just go for it. And I

1:03:23

think the double eviction is the

1:03:25

perfect example of it, the most

1:03:28

exemplary piece of her work that

1:03:30

can represent the rest of it.

1:03:32

Because Bailey is the person who

1:03:35

was there immediately after Spicy won,

1:03:37

telling her what she needed to

1:03:39

do. Without it being

1:03:41

like, this is what I'm manipulating you

1:03:44

into doing. It was like, this is

1:03:46

what we need for us. And

1:03:49

she was telling the truth, but it was

1:03:51

also way better for her. And that

1:03:53

was, that's Bailey's game in a nutshell. And that's

1:03:56

what got her to this place. And I think

1:03:58

it needed

1:04:00

in this environment where there were these two

1:04:03

major pillars of the game firing

1:04:05

back and forth at each other.

1:04:08

And she just needed to get in with

1:04:11

both of them and convince both of them

1:04:13

that what was good for her was also

1:04:15

good for them. I

1:04:17

think it's great when you have...

1:04:22

Because I feel like

1:04:25

we see the underdog stories a lot of

1:04:27

the time in shows and games like these

1:04:29

and I feel like

1:04:31

so many of the underdog stories fall by

1:04:34

the wayside because it's like this overarching narrative

1:04:36

of, I have my back

1:04:38

against the wall, therefore I need to

1:04:41

make sure that I just

1:04:45

play the game the best way that I

1:04:47

know and to try to play around all

1:04:49

these people that are against me instead of

1:04:51

actively taking a bit

1:04:54

of your power back. And

1:04:57

I think that we saw Baylee take

1:04:59

a bit of her power back each and

1:05:01

each week and I think that that's definitely

1:05:04

a more dynamic underdog story as

1:05:06

opposed to just letting the

1:05:09

game trample all over you and be like,

1:05:11

whoa, it's me. I'm an underdog. I'm on

1:05:13

the bottom. There's nothing that I can do.

1:05:15

Oh, I made it to the end somehow.

1:05:17

I should win. It's like, no, she didn't

1:05:19

make it to the end somehow. She, week

1:05:21

by week, day by day, she did what she had to do, what

1:05:23

she thought was best, did

1:05:26

it for herself, bought a little bit, got

1:05:28

a little scrappy, made it happen. So

1:05:32

yeah, I think

1:05:34

it's definitely something that I'm

1:05:36

interested in. This

1:05:38

is in Bippo the Canada 12 and all of

1:05:40

its non glory with no feed. I

1:05:43

would not mind rewatching this season just to

1:05:45

like really pinpoint episodes where

1:05:47

you can see her doing

1:05:50

a little bit of work, maybe even looking at some of

1:05:52

these dailies again, just to like see her do a

1:05:55

little bit more work just to get all

1:05:57

the little nuggets. So yeah, I think it's

1:05:59

absolutely. I think it's definitely a commendable game.

1:06:01

It's a deserving game to win and she

1:06:05

won. So. She

1:06:07

did it. But for her,

1:06:09

honestly, it's very exciting. Yeah,

1:06:12

and I think that like, you

1:06:15

know, don't underestimate

1:06:17

Bailey's ability to lie

1:06:19

either. Because even

1:06:21

though a lot of what I just talked about was like

1:06:23

her being honest, and that was a large part of how

1:06:26

she was able to sell things, she

1:06:28

was also then able

1:06:30

to use that perception of

1:06:33

her being straightforward and honest and upfront

1:06:35

and blunt to trick

1:06:38

people into believing her when

1:06:40

she was actually lying. And

1:06:43

that was another huge key part of her

1:06:45

game. And one that

1:06:47

I personally wish she had been

1:06:51

able to, I guess, talk about more in

1:06:53

her speeches. I think she makes the right

1:06:55

call. Like normally I would be like, do

1:06:58

not preach honesty and loyalty. Yeah,

1:07:00

let's stop that. Do not preach that and you're

1:07:02

probably just, that's what this jury wanted. This jury

1:07:04

was weird. They loved it, they ate it up.

1:07:07

But to again, kind of

1:07:10

preview, I think a little bit of my

1:07:12

interviews that will

1:07:14

hopefully be coming out in a little bit. She's

1:07:18

also very much aware of the fact that

1:07:20

like, yeah, I was always still a smart.

1:07:22

Like I was also tricking Anthony. Like

1:07:25

I was definitely good at it. You know what

1:07:27

I mean? So, you know, it's

1:07:30

this great combination of the two. And

1:07:32

I think that I'm

1:07:34

with you, Melissa, that like, man,

1:07:37

would it have been cool to have live feeds for

1:07:39

this? Because I think

1:07:41

that this is probably

1:07:44

the best game to study

1:07:46

now if

1:07:48

you are playing with returning

1:07:50

players. Or maybe

1:07:53

even like a surrey, like a

1:07:56

celebrity-esque guest

1:07:58

player, right? Like these kinds

1:08:01

of things because you know, we

1:08:03

know everybody knows now You

1:08:06

do have to like for as much as people love

1:08:08

to like Rag on the season

1:08:10

and rag on the house guys. You do

1:08:12

have to work with them Like it never

1:08:14

works. You can't just immediately be like I'm

1:08:16

gonna target them That's just asking to be

1:08:18

voted out right away. Yeah, unless America

1:08:22

unless America gives you a coup

1:08:24

d'etat you are not allowed outright

1:08:27

target They're

1:08:30

returning players but

1:08:32

what you can do is Get

1:08:35

in with them and and

1:08:38

ideally there's two of them that you can play off of each other Like

1:08:43

to go against each other right Which

1:08:47

is what Bailey did I think most of it was

1:08:49

inadvertent But but it is what

1:08:51

she did So

1:08:55

Want some newbies to come up there and just

1:08:57

chop these bed heads off I want to see

1:08:59

it happen just one good time. But at one

1:09:01

time, I'm sorry. I do I

1:09:03

just I need it for my soul just

1:09:05

one Immediately That's

1:09:16

it though I'm on like There's

1:09:23

gonna be like you are like if you this

1:09:25

is this is the problem if you think you

1:09:27

are going to do that You're

1:09:29

gonna find that you're the Cody of

1:09:31

the season and they're gonna stand up

1:09:33

and they're gonna whip something out of their pocket Target

1:09:41

me week one you

1:09:43

Idiot I'm

1:09:45

not saying I'm not saying I would do it

1:09:48

if I ever ended up in one of these

1:09:50

shows But I dance room will not

1:09:52

I'm definitely gonna have someone one of these other

1:09:54

newbies. I'm people like do it. Please

1:09:58

Put the asses up I

1:10:01

mean, honestly, like, yeah, it's one of those things where

1:10:04

I feel like every time we're always like, why

1:10:06

don't they just immediately target that? Like, I don't

1:10:08

understand why, like, you wouldn't just want to like,

1:10:11

see them as a threat and be like, we

1:10:13

need to get this person out right away. But

1:10:15

you just know that there's always going to be

1:10:17

some way that production is gonna, you know, make

1:10:20

it to whatever. Even if

1:10:22

it's not production, it's always a fanboy or a fangirl

1:10:24

up in there that throws the wrench in the plan.

1:10:26

And like, there's always going to be someone that's like,

1:10:28

oh, no, no, no, no, no, I've, I've

1:10:31

watched this show. I've been such a fan for so long. And he says,

1:10:33

I want to play with this. And then

1:10:35

once that one person is

1:10:37

in there, it's, it's done. So

1:10:39

total, I don't know, maybe one of

1:10:41

these blue moons will get one of

1:10:44

these vets out immediately. And

1:10:46

I'll be like, okay, yeah. I

1:10:49

also think like, I also think in

1:10:51

terms of like, fan,

1:10:53

like the fan base, I also think it's

1:10:57

better for you to not immediately target the

1:10:59

best. And

1:11:01

like, I mean, imagine like, you know, well, we

1:11:04

don't even need to imagine that we've seen

1:11:06

it, but like, Janelle is playing or whatever.

1:11:08

And if people like immediately are trying to

1:11:10

target Janelle, the fans are not going

1:11:12

to like that. They want you to work with Janelle.

1:11:14

So I think like, and I said this before when

1:11:16

Janelle was playing, like, it was like, you

1:11:18

need to be like, I'm working with you. I

1:11:21

like you, blah, blah, blah. Like you're with them.

1:11:23

And then you find a way to

1:11:25

turn on them, whether you have someone

1:11:27

else turn on them, or whether eventually

1:11:29

you're just like, look, like, I can't beat

1:11:32

you. I have to do this at

1:11:34

the right moment, whatever that right moment

1:11:36

is. Like, that's when the fans would

1:11:38

be like, yes, you know, she's right

1:11:40

that she couldn't beat Janelle. So

1:11:42

it makes sense that Melissa would

1:11:44

turn on Janelle or whatever. But

1:11:46

like, if you do it too early, then it's like,

1:11:48

oh, you just don't like Janelle and you're anti

1:11:50

and we don't like that. Janelle,

1:11:53

yeah, exactly. So we've got

1:11:55

a lot of like timing thing. Yeah,

1:11:58

we talk a lot about like fan perception. Returning

1:12:00

players and will like star players like Siri.

1:12:03

By it but actually they like a

1:12:05

would interesting to talk to like I

1:12:08

like a Bb Uk are like international

1:12:10

version. Player: Because.

1:12:12

That's their bread and butter like I

1:12:14

think they would actually like. I like

1:12:16

as somebody who's like really went into

1:12:18

those games with the intent to play

1:12:20

I think would probably have a strategy

1:12:22

or you have like. This.

1:12:25

Is how you for trade

1:12:27

or sell to the audience

1:12:30

while still covertly trying new

1:12:32

things. It's for an. End

1:12:35

end and recognizing that like

1:12:37

these people might be popular

1:12:40

and these people ah as

1:12:42

though yeah maybe maybe maybe

1:12:44

maybe we'll find out from

1:12:46

on the experts on that

1:12:48

yeah rock but strategically yeah

1:12:50

I think I'm. I

1:12:53

think probably. Couple.

1:12:55

Weeks in. To.

1:12:57

To mid game. that's that's your

1:12:59

window. if you miss your

1:13:01

window. added your own early. It's

1:13:04

done. If you're too late, it's

1:13:06

done. Unless. You're. Able to

1:13:08

like really. Get. In

1:13:11

there and either get lucky or like.

1:13:13

You. Know overcome some other

1:13:15

stuff race. So. Me

1:13:18

again as about the time because that's when you

1:13:20

he now sees establish that you liked them. You're

1:13:22

a fan of them. You want to work with

1:13:24

them. On Sam. Mid

1:13:29

game it's like less. I can't let

1:13:32

you get the jury authorize the whatever.

1:13:35

Film. There he is now and then I

1:13:37

was in the house and he had to the

1:13:39

and. You. Just take the did

1:13:41

Jordan strategy from the zur on or

1:13:43

that he was the circle recently but

1:13:45

others a player when it was just

1:13:47

like i hate this guy. And.

1:13:50

I'm just going to dedicate my existence to taking them.

1:13:53

And muslims. as

1:13:57

soon as he distances usually do

1:13:59

and. Sorry. Your go into.

1:14:04

Korea but without working with every. A

1:14:07

I believe I'm not a while at that. Spot.

1:14:09

Is our who? No no no

1:14:12

I definitely wouldn't I was joke

1:14:14

that metaphysically I sorrow and know

1:14:16

you're going to summer and be

1:14:18

like ah like all right Taylor's

1:14:21

in Aus Well. There and

1:14:23

said oh my god Now.

1:14:25

Yes, it as a thing you do. You

1:14:27

have to start. And the diseases you can

1:14:30

start as like oh I'm just as the

1:14:32

offender August so dedicated and do whatever and

1:14:34

you're loyal soldier like you can't do that.

1:14:37

But. Being like hey I respect your game I

1:14:39

want to work with you. That's a very

1:14:41

different vibe so I believe that I respect

1:14:43

for him on work with us and they

1:14:45

had like yeah yeah that makes sense if

1:14:47

I was now they feel the same way

1:14:49

or whatever but if your life I believe

1:14:51

a really immediately like fell off a lot

1:14:53

of people played favorite thing Radar because she

1:14:55

was just like I love spicy be and

1:14:57

I'm obsessed and I'll do anything she says

1:14:59

like I'm just like anything you say is

1:15:01

like okay that kind of and too much.

1:15:04

Will that suppose? In that's the thing I think that

1:15:06

is a very. Played. Her

1:15:08

own game. She. Would have

1:15:10

fun. Like. Since I

1:15:12

I think the. I

1:15:15

think the. Of

1:15:18

Drew any any moment where she was

1:15:20

too late was doing her own thing

1:15:22

was not just grew led. By.

1:15:25

Would spicy wanted her to do a oh

1:15:27

yeah I think that's the key to and

1:15:29

I I think that's the key to a

1:15:31

like having the Sands appreciate you. Because.

1:15:34

Even if people hey what you're doing

1:15:36

is you have your own vision for

1:15:38

what you're doing. And

1:15:41

and you're perceived as having your and be reduced.

1:15:43

Most. People will at least. Like.

1:15:46

Zero Green eyes You as.

1:15:49

Your. Own. Purse: And.

1:15:54

And you will have fans through

1:15:56

that by itself. but I it's

1:15:58

also good for the game. I

1:16:00

think most of the time there

1:16:02

are there are. Places

1:16:04

I think where you can be

1:16:06

like. Like. First the A

1:16:08

Steve Moses for example being like

1:16:10

this or what happened to Jackie

1:16:12

Ah man I have a month

1:16:14

since the Nasa. Like

1:16:17

that works for him because that

1:16:19

was like a very intentional game.

1:16:23

But like adding most of the time. You.

1:16:26

Want people to recognize that? Like

1:16:28

you are your own person. You are, You're

1:16:30

on fire and and you can win respect

1:16:33

that way. And and

1:16:35

I think that yeah for time

1:16:37

row fan perception, when there's when

1:16:39

there's Alumni in the house, I

1:16:41

think there's a reason why. Bailey,

1:16:43

who very much was playing with

1:16:45

and for Spicy for a long

1:16:47

time, was a lot more appreciated.

1:16:49

And somebody like every because Bailey.

1:16:52

And we saw it. Was. Eventually

1:16:54

able to and you always knew this

1:16:56

was the case. Like. Be

1:16:58

like oh, Screw you thus

1:17:01

I see on away whereas and

1:17:03

give one to get Anthony Apple

1:17:05

damn time to my yeah read

1:17:07

measure in her and again like

1:17:09

had her own vision like even

1:17:11

though she was a much loyal

1:17:13

to spicy she would fight Stacey

1:17:15

on the direction they should be

1:17:17

going which again is why like.

1:17:20

I can't stress enough how key this

1:17:22

was because the difference between a player

1:17:25

like Avery and a player like Bailey

1:17:27

is that every was look they were

1:17:29

both little the spicy but when spicy

1:17:31

told Avery to jump. Avery jumped

1:17:34

and when Spicy told Bailey a

1:17:36

job, Bailey said. No. It's

1:17:39

better. We walk. And spy he

1:17:41

went. Okay I guess a

1:17:43

walk them. As any see

1:17:45

a jump. She's in

1:17:47

the same spot as a bridge. She does not win this game.

1:17:50

For. She bought for her own vision

1:17:52

of the game. Made a.

1:17:55

Cameo out about whole. Feel of oh

1:17:57

my Yeah mean I ultimately keyless ended up going home.

1:17:59

Believe this. The Avery was just so quick to

1:18:01

discover up our i well as get her out

1:18:03

and Bailey was I will hold on. Do

1:18:06

are we sure that she'll as you said

1:18:09

this stuff like since the as this varies

1:18:11

just did. Very exemplary of just the you

1:18:13

know. Always. Having her own. Head

1:18:16

of her shoulders so. Long

1:18:19

as they still soft that top their

1:18:21

heads off Guys Tom I'm off by

1:18:24

this is. The

1:18:26

i to play the game the system but.

1:18:29

Move all right? Well, anything else

1:18:31

we should talk about. This

1:18:35

month and it was engraved. Finale: Honestly

1:18:37

isolate their offense some a let down

1:18:39

an alley is recently it's ah and

1:18:42

I feel like it this was as

1:18:44

flat on it was well done and

1:18:46

the people you know I thought the

1:18:49

both the final seal had gray answer

1:18:51

is great speeches and I fill it

1:18:53

with unlocking that lately south it was

1:18:55

very fun to watch them fight it

1:18:58

out till the and and I think

1:19:00

we ended up with a good results

1:19:02

as just is. Yeah, it was

1:19:04

a great great episode. John

1:19:08

I think if is anything else

1:19:10

from the finale. Or from like

1:19:13

the the live show that I that I

1:19:15

should talk racism and as these I guess

1:19:17

again maybe you guys come in and maybe

1:19:19

the audience can ask some questions as well

1:19:21

to like jog my memory book. Things that

1:19:23

might be worth pointing out but. I

1:19:27

the part three of the final

1:19:29

for each wage. Back. And

1:19:31

we thought it mattered. Really

1:19:34

mattered more. I was

1:19:37

incredibly tense. It

1:19:39

was yeah, I know through. I believe

1:19:42

it was cut down pretty significantly for

1:19:44

the episodes I like. They.

1:19:46

Were like each question they were

1:19:48

like. Two

1:19:51

minutes almost felt like of like

1:19:53

and was thinking tensions and from

1:19:56

where we were sitting we could

1:19:58

see the and. There's a on

1:20:01

like the prompter. And

1:20:03

I was like that watching

1:20:05

The Bailey. In Mcgrew

1:20:08

two minutes. ah they'll hold on your

1:20:10

we talk about one away one oh

1:20:12

a girl mueller okay let me. Also

1:20:14

needed their eyes so under my i'm

1:20:16

watching Bailey and I know the answer

1:20:18

like I know it's be or a

1:20:20

mess and Bailey had a towel that

1:20:23

she would always lean toward the button

1:20:25

she thought it was to be like

1:20:27

oh I think they were going to

1:20:29

get this one right now and it

1:20:31

was so is so like tense going

1:20:33

around. They went through like three or

1:20:35

four sudden death questions and. They just

1:20:38

kept answering the same thing

1:20:40

over and over guys. And

1:20:42

then finally get good sue the

1:20:45

tie breaker. And

1:20:47

there is one moment also I

1:20:49

don't know this made the episode

1:20:51

by it's is is that they

1:20:53

asked to repeat the question like.

1:20:56

A bunch. It was

1:20:58

like nursery. The question they think a

1:21:00

better like sixty seconds ago your be

1:21:02

the question Stupid question The you ever

1:21:04

know? Sixty seconds. And

1:21:07

a one point. Of failure

1:21:10

buzzed in. And and the

1:21:12

you like. Can. You repeat the question. Is

1:21:15

like ah, sorry I can.

1:21:18

Barely. Audible and. As

1:21:20

all we're we're like this is the one he gets wrong

1:21:22

but then he he gotta read as well. So

1:21:26

then we as he entered his. Tie

1:21:28

breaker: Ah, Are

1:21:31

again I don't know how much was

1:21:33

seen but. They

1:21:36

were both scribbling away doing math, and

1:21:38

the question was something like, how many

1:21:40

can how many days combined to the

1:21:42

jurors spend on the block. Bally's.

1:21:45

Do knows mass. Three

1:21:47

fourths of the time through she

1:21:49

goes. Oh shit

1:21:51

and scribbles everything out. Oh

1:21:54

no, It's a seemingly starts over.

1:21:57

Met and and interested or.

1:22:00

Given like hey guys like where are. You.

1:22:02

Have this Show me an answer. And

1:22:04

oh. I. Forgot to ask

1:22:07

her But like I my

1:22:09

assumption was that see. The

1:22:11

obviously like messed up in wasn't

1:22:14

thinking of the correct question and

1:22:16

had to like. Try

1:22:18

to do the math of the last second

1:22:20

on the flies. My guess was that she

1:22:22

was accidently. Counting. Everyone.

1:22:25

And. Not just jury members. and

1:22:27

then. Was. Like panicking subtracting numbers

1:22:29

from her answer and as didn't go

1:22:31

far enough. That was my best guess

1:22:33

for how she got there, but she

1:22:35

definitely like seems to have been going

1:22:37

up the wrong tree for a while

1:22:39

before realizing she needed to do something

1:22:42

else. Yet I was

1:22:44

a wide summer we have and. I

1:22:46

can't the way what I would not be able

1:22:48

to do as any of this like math class

1:22:50

at my is like the second he goes to.

1:22:52

Tie breakers with a little chat boards.

1:22:54

I do like an owl and and

1:22:57

I'm not gotten us one. I saw

1:22:59

Anthony writing is three and as legs

1:23:01

Surely he's writing is a guy we

1:23:03

we knew seventy five. Like

1:23:06

Shirley's writing like sixty three or

1:23:08

something. And then when

1:23:10

he's in Hebrew, it's allergies. Three hours,

1:23:12

like Bailey one. And then

1:23:14

Gm one and I was like. Oh

1:23:16

nevermind. A below the. Yeah.

1:23:19

Like isolating think he is. This is like

1:23:21

if you don't know the answer like ray

1:23:23

a low number because blade and it's without

1:23:25

going over said I'd that like are better

1:23:28

for if you really don't know it like

1:23:30

better for you to put that thing lol.

1:23:32

Then. of possibly settling few high see my

1:23:35

is not a select number of like five or

1:23:37

something and then hope everyone else. Has over

1:23:39

at around. Leave ah device as

1:23:41

he is. I would not know the answer. Very.

1:23:44

Well in math. Still missing people up to this.

1:23:46

this. Is. Michelle

1:23:48

the Lcs to the editors are introduced into the

1:23:50

pre Juri did did you not see the Breeder

1:23:52

interview. Now. He saw

1:23:55

way we'd see a name, a

1:23:57

few questions, She. Is one

1:23:59

like one question? Yeah yeah.

1:24:02

Why didn't lay meeting in in the game it

1:24:04

like i think showing some. I don't remember

1:24:06

I think Seattle madam I work at a

1:24:08

on things you see our. Citizens.

1:24:11

Install one points for the my.

1:24:15

Utility to introduce as a as as

1:24:17

as far as I remember Malik, I

1:24:19

don't remember them like actually I think.

1:24:22

You're having anything interesting from the

1:24:24

some huge is no say to

1:24:26

them. You. Know is it wasn't

1:24:29

like super important and I apologize if

1:24:31

they do some as of I am

1:24:33

I was. I was editing the the

1:24:35

interviews during the opposite since I've already

1:24:37

seen it so there are so do

1:24:39

when you're when you're at the film

1:24:41

as are you watching be edited cuts

1:24:43

alongside like the audience as well like

1:24:45

a yummy basically his big screen. Zelig

1:24:48

Bad. First twenty minutes, we just watched

1:24:50

it. And. Then gotta risk comes up

1:24:53

in she does her thing. And

1:24:55

then they'd the alleys do segment

1:24:57

and they you know do commercial

1:24:59

breaks which reduced rates and then

1:25:01

is that's pretty the pretty much

1:25:03

as and and we like see

1:25:05

the we see Anthony and Failure

1:25:08

on the screen as well just

1:25:10

like the same school teachers. At

1:25:13

it. Let's.

1:25:17

See any other questions from

1:25:19

the audience. Will make a

1:25:21

mouse the summer does the

1:25:24

backyard. Ah yeah, I

1:25:26

walked in a little this. To

1:25:30

suzanne one of the chairs since

1:25:32

since enough emphasis on food as

1:25:35

leg there is no tears mustache

1:25:37

such. As

1:25:39

well, rise in there. It's It's

1:25:41

not like it's like it's definitely

1:25:43

bright. Lights. A

1:25:46

know is it was night time and I

1:25:48

was tired of be annoying but it was

1:25:50

also it's not like blinding blaze. Yeah right.

1:25:53

Now has his lips and celebrate

1:25:56

laid out his image. They hear

1:25:58

them. The I.

1:26:02

Didn't feel bad bad earliest didn't in

1:26:04

in that. Sir. The i is

1:26:06

a weird thing is that like

1:26:08

the kitchen I think is feels

1:26:10

more separate then use. Than

1:26:12

you think when you're watching on a screen in the

1:26:14

kitchen very much as feel like it's right next to

1:26:16

the table for like, because and for got his own

1:26:19

little nook essentially. Raised

1:26:21

as I don't think it's it's all

1:26:23

open to theory. they open the is

1:26:25

a very different feel in the kitchen.

1:26:29

So. Ear of this is

1:26:32

reminded me about controversy that

1:26:34

Big Meat started Greenlight Zola,

1:26:36

Uriah May Business. Success. On

1:26:38

a. Cell is

1:26:40

still plenty of other allies in

1:26:42

the rain quickly. last. Time.

1:26:46

I was in med be all for a long time

1:26:48

over. Is telling the truth or not, I can't sell.

1:26:52

Ladies' inclusion that link at least.

1:26:54

He. Was a so that our love the

1:26:56

last nine years today as to was bullshit

1:26:58

a as hell. I'd

1:27:01

give you a dry and are you all the

1:27:03

jury members know? I only spoke to the final

1:27:06

three in the backyard and those injuries should hopefully

1:27:08

be up in like. If you're watching

1:27:10

this live may be it is actually a

1:27:12

who knows and right now as I'm subject

1:27:14

a hotel wife I'd to upload these to

1:27:17

get the money to eyes. So. Ideally

1:27:20

their up sometimes in. I hope we by tomorrow

1:27:22

morning you can watch them his size. You're not

1:27:24

staying up. But it. Isn't

1:27:27

great. Daily would have taken.

1:27:30

Lexus there. or Anthony if she

1:27:32

learned. I. Am I mean I'm. Reasonably

1:27:34

certain it would have been Anthony. I

1:27:36

think ours are as because that you

1:27:38

would call Anthony. I'm

1:27:41

pretty sure she mentioned that and

1:27:43

my i didn't specifically ask her

1:27:45

business himself up to me. See

1:27:47

does However, now. I

1:27:50

did ask Lexus was you'd have

1:27:52

done but I'm not. So he

1:27:54

was out. Yeah, okay, I am

1:27:56

sensitive. And will find out later. I got this.

1:28:01

Our. A point. Where.

1:28:03

The confetti and explosions Really close. Yes,

1:28:06

the very specific subset of her. Listen,

1:28:08

if you're close to the confetti, you

1:28:10

need to stay back because there's gonna

1:28:12

be sparks fly pretty loud. That and

1:28:14

that he can be left. Or

1:28:17

right as sounds like it. Oh My. God. Yeah

1:28:20

I was a really like a Rose

1:28:22

access earlier and his new ago that.

1:28:26

All. right? Well, That's.

1:28:28

What we have for you here then for

1:28:31

big Brother Canada. Twelve. Ah,

1:28:33

Zach Wuerttemberg or into says

1:28:35

spends the whole thing. Anyone

1:28:38

objects. And for ever. I

1:28:42

agree. I think you know. Why?

1:28:46

See decide. Which

1:28:48

in some ways makes this worse.

1:28:50

But Lycee decide this was i

1:28:52

think a very good season. And.

1:28:57

Oh he's actually his. Know that. The

1:29:00

Challenge: Producer Guy. He

1:29:04

he talks at these these things.

1:29:08

He. Specifically called on and or as as talk to

1:29:10

others as well as she actually call it out as

1:29:12

well. Ah, At the live show. They.

1:29:14

Love how many different people one

1:29:16

competitions. they said that's the sign

1:29:19

of a good good. Well.

1:29:21

Run season that like there was

1:29:23

a lot of variety in In

1:29:25

in the Winners and to me

1:29:27

that sounds like a very like.

1:29:30

They. Were not saying my last year

1:29:32

because it wasn't true. Ah man, so

1:29:34

isn't very. I'm very happy to not

1:29:36

only get a season where that was

1:29:38

true. Buy it

1:29:41

for them to be calling out specifically

1:29:43

as a goal that they had. I

1:29:45

I I cannot express enough how much

1:29:47

I think that. Was. A

1:29:49

hotel He component of making the

1:29:52

season work. Even with return he

1:29:54

is coming in basically dominating the

1:29:56

game. That the competition

1:29:59

variety is. What made this

1:30:01

so much more interesting?

1:30:03

Man. Rape. The. You

1:30:05

know I think it Will was a great.

1:30:09

Great. Season. Of a

1:30:11

show that is not quite big brother

1:30:13

but. You. Know felt a lot closer

1:30:15

than as the here. Is

1:30:18

calm as down at. Seven.

1:30:20

Deadly Something the I feel that

1:30:22

I just it is it as

1:30:24

still different pressure and mean I

1:30:26

sell. So much less. Invested

1:30:28

in all of it. It just feels.

1:30:31

Like watching says like a tv show

1:30:33

or something. Which it is a tv

1:30:35

show. I guess that's all like it

1:30:37

doesn't feel like. I'm

1:30:39

not as wrapped up in it I

1:30:42

guess as I am with normal big

1:30:44

brother I'd where I'm just I feel

1:30:46

like I know these people and I

1:30:48

feel like I'm really I'm invested in

1:30:50

who wins and who gets owl and

1:30:52

like he just feel that can accents

1:30:54

on. Whereas this it was handling I

1:30:56

really didn't care who got out each

1:30:58

week I was this kind of watching

1:31:00

it as like an outsider just like

1:31:02

this is television and I'm just watching

1:31:04

at night or believed air And so

1:31:06

while. And. The as a

1:31:08

barrier like I asked. His kitten since

1:31:10

I saw a double seems good com

1:31:12

degree burns. that is how I rewards

1:31:14

are mostly prefer suits me. I've heard

1:31:16

on the on of ways it's you

1:31:19

know I mean I've always sort of

1:31:21

so as a little bad about late

1:31:23

and obviously whatever that means the wilderness,

1:31:25

getting a chance to be on tv

1:31:27

and when my him you know her

1:31:29

weight the great experience of a lifetime

1:31:31

but always with a solid. A little

1:31:33

bad that. Canadian. Big

1:31:35

brother players don't get as much as and

1:31:37

soon as the you as the but of

1:31:40

players and now with the marketing of live

1:31:42

feed is even less media for them to

1:31:44

really you know show us who they are.

1:31:46

I'm so always as though to play ah.

1:31:49

Stole many. yeah I know, I

1:31:52

know. We get so many good

1:31:54

players in big where the Canada

1:31:56

that deserves so much more fan

1:31:58

recognition and as. Now unfortunately

1:32:00

they did marijuana get a because it's.

1:32:03

Because. Of the duration of the show is going

1:32:05

and by. Regardless, it was still a really good

1:32:07

season and death definitely. I think I enjoyed this

1:32:09

a lot more than I enjoyed last. Even so,

1:32:12

Yeah. Yeah, I mean there's a whole conversation

1:32:14

this this. Podcast. Could have

1:32:16

been largely about like. Okay,

1:32:19

How. Do we rank Anthony in the in

1:32:21

the hall of grades? given that we don't

1:32:23

have it? In like can

1:32:25

he be than greens of all time I are

1:32:27

no. I feel like

1:32:29

that without out with honors nation that

1:32:32

conversation the what would have been in

1:32:34

this and and now it's or. At

1:32:36

least or Anthony we've seen him play before with

1:32:39

I've seen so we now live find a way

1:32:41

he doesn't like what he's done, deal and yell

1:32:43

so we can use that as that. Like it

1:32:45

stays. But with family it's like we really don't

1:32:48

know. I mean aside from what we've seen as

1:32:50

far as well he seen. And what

1:32:52

we've been given. Three. Players they're very

1:32:54

fine. Yeah, I know, I have cetera et

1:32:57

cetera, but we don't know the intricacies of

1:32:59

her game and I still a we would

1:33:01

all appreciate it a lot more if we

1:33:03

did sell. It is disappointing, you know, and

1:33:05

I'm sure that there are things that we

1:33:08

mess and share things we didn't see. And

1:33:10

so yeah, obviously this season has that coffee

1:33:12

at. Ah

1:33:14

well, I think there is one thing we

1:33:16

can all agree on. It's.

1:33:19

Always been pretty indisputable, but.

1:33:22

I am the greatest referral time. Now

1:33:25

says, and I do As a way

1:33:28

things are. You know, My.

1:33:30

The second season in like a

1:33:32

few years where I had both

1:33:34

of the final to. The.

1:33:36

Second see. You

1:33:39

know, hard as being this

1:33:41

perfect as a drafter My

1:33:43

thighs O K Anthony. My

1:33:48

go for a while to. Master

1:33:52

Bruce. Was

1:33:54

going to have. An. Sd

1:33:58

oh. Okay, Maybe.

1:34:01

In on the area like I have. I

1:34:03

would have sounds like are I won because

1:34:05

I took a risk on the on the

1:34:07

bed spill legs you know. But. I

1:34:10

want on Bailey. That's. Even more

1:34:12

impressive in my like that was that will

1:34:14

new player in I mean let a while

1:34:16

Yet to those Lucy. Drafted for you

1:34:18

were seen. As

1:34:21

human activity was Anthony and then

1:34:23

her And whole and and spicy.

1:34:25

last. Side.

1:34:28

C L u issue is thirty three or

1:34:30

whatever. She. Were earlier

1:34:32

anthony Atala Bailey and Spicy

1:34:35

The. Big Brother

1:34:37

you as will be back

1:34:39

in about two months. And.

1:34:41

We I would be. If

1:34:43

this were smokers he knew I was

1:34:45

the first thing I thought maybe with

1:34:47

thank you for winning me but since

1:34:50

this call my god and will be

1:34:52

among others have old when he landed

1:34:54

on Thursday is. Ah

1:34:57

are I will thank you all so

1:34:59

much for joining us all season long.

1:35:01

I know it's been a weird one

1:35:03

with the jobs the way they are

1:35:05

and then that's is gonna how things

1:35:07

are for Big Brother cannabis. Hopefully you're

1:35:09

able to have fun with us because

1:35:11

I think that it's was in comparison

1:35:13

to last year where I really feel

1:35:15

a guy with the combination of both

1:35:18

have no live feeds. plus. The.

1:35:20

Competitions not being played their

1:35:22

i really really sunk a

1:35:24

bizarre but a I did

1:35:26

enjoy this year. Hopefully you

1:35:28

guys had fun with it

1:35:30

as well because the Us

1:35:32

will be starting I believe

1:35:34

they announce now in July

1:35:36

July seventeen. And

1:35:39

thing. So.

1:35:41

You know where were common? Come right back

1:35:43

up with live seeds. will be back and

1:35:45

for as much fun as I had with

1:35:47

this disease. And like. The.

1:35:50

Man another Maglev. even even in this

1:35:52

arena. And. Kinda

1:35:54

there. Exists a like.

1:35:57

The A could be the worst. Oh and the world's it could

1:35:59

be the worst. In the world when his

1:36:01

life he had, there's just something I

1:36:03

own eyes. I'm excited for us for

1:36:05

that. Makes you stay tuned. I'll be

1:36:07

streaming on switch to is a Tv

1:36:09

Flash and tear in Armstrong watching Survivor

1:36:11

which is still going men in a

1:36:13

Thought in all kinds of stuff. The.

1:36:17

Backyard Interviews again will hopefully be up soon as

1:36:19

well if you wanna check those out, The

1:36:23

I stay tuned I'm on where you would have

1:36:25

gone on. Ah,

1:36:28

I'm a big earner big brother

1:36:30

on drag race. All Stars Nine

1:36:32

The yes You heard that right

1:36:34

off or nine is starting up

1:36:37

on May seventeenth, Amelie on and

1:36:39

best will be back! Covering the

1:36:41

nine authors season of drivers, I

1:36:43

cannot believe I believe we just

1:36:45

crown season six teams winner and

1:36:47

yet here we are again so

1:36:50

we'll be back for that. The

1:36:52

mess of looks. Ah

1:36:55

Melissa year you and upon.

1:36:59

Ah, I'm just waiting serving rather

1:37:01

than start again assistance and things

1:37:03

like. This. Are I

1:37:05

always worth? Minds are at It's

1:37:08

Melissa. Sir

1:37:10

His. Room. Thank.

1:37:13

You again for joining us

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