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Absolutely but a surprise for Shock factor. Well

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this is going to be a brilliant episode

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of Extra Catch because we're talking about something

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which on I we've had a lot

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of people ask about and is something that's

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been a. Massive part of your life

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of the last ten years. The topic

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for today is alcohol alcohol baby. And.

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You know? I think probably straight off the

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bat is probably worth saying that this podcast

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isn't to. Dissuade. Or

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try and influence people to stop

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drinking. The main point of today's

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conversation is to share some of

1:00

our own person experiences with alcohol,

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but also to. Highlight.

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Some of the biological physiological issues that alcohol

1:06

can cause in the body and then you

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know the end of the day. everybody's a

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big boy and a big go and they

1:13

can. They can make their own minds up.

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I. Think that's very interesting and important and

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I think anybody who drinks alcohol should

1:19

understand the effects that it has on

1:22

your mind and body. It kind of

1:24

sounds silly, but with our information being

1:26

so much more readily available nowadays, I

1:28

do believe that people are making better

1:30

decisions around. I'll call anyway. I mean,

1:33

my personal experience with alcohol is: I

1:35

was a problem drinker for for pretty

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much all of my late teens, all

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of my twenties, all the way up

1:41

to you know, meeting Vogue, and for

1:43

the first couple years of. Of. Being

1:46

with Vogue, I try to live

1:48

life without regret. And. Without

1:50

you know, pondering things

1:52

that can't be changed

1:54

and wasting energy you

1:57

know, focusing on things

1:59

the. Have already happens. But I

2:01

can't say that I have no regrets

2:03

in my life because I I do

2:05

regret ah having the relationship that I

2:07

had with alcohol for the amount of

2:10

time that I had it I think

2:12

the had I known. Ah, How

2:14

to control it better. Had I had

2:16

I had a a better purpose, more

2:18

drive, more discipline in my life at

2:20

a younger age? Ah, I'm I think

2:22

I I could be. Further,

2:25

Along. Not. That it's a race

2:27

or that yeah he to achieve these

2:29

things is alive. But to somebody like

2:31

me who is ambitious? ah. Alcohol

2:34

certainly.in the way. All.

2:37

My productivity, my creativity and

2:39

I'm on my my dreams

2:41

and on my on my

2:44

goals. In I think that

2:46

it's important to to touch

2:48

on it but also stress

2:50

how. Much. Your life

2:52

can change. When. You.

2:55

Address. These points so think even close to

2:57

my mind back nearly a decade when I

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first met your mom, we were training for

3:01

that for the Men's Health Celebrity Six Pack

3:03

challenge. I didn't know you at the time.

3:05

It was kind of like it was at

3:07

the very sort of start of our relationship.

3:09

I remember rocking upper at your door and

3:12

dragging you out of bed, severely hung over

3:14

to go and train. and it was just

3:16

one of those, And that was one. Of

3:18

the a decade ago now as so

3:20

funny that is that long ago this

3:22

is Esther I mean and about to

3:25

put into perspective lights The difference in

3:27

the human you are today versus the

3:29

little oil to I was dealing with

3:31

all those years ago is is huge

3:33

And I'm not saying that it's all

3:35

down to your relationship with alcohol and

3:37

how that's evolved over the last ten

3:39

years to overseas on a lot of

3:41

growing up and and maturing and evolving

3:43

and other i was your last Us.

3:45

I do think that your relationship and

3:47

house evolved and Sundays. The. Your.

3:50

Control and Management of your uncle

3:52

Intake has had a massive increase

3:55

on. Your. Quality of life. I've.

3:57

Often described. My.

4:00

Relationship with alcohol. As.

4:03

Like driving a really fast car with the

4:05

handbrake on the that you know we've all

4:07

made that mistake where you forget said the

4:09

handbrake of the car and you kind of

4:11

like the moving there is no moving very

4:14

well and like the opposite doesn't this knowledge

4:16

among the last long have a mistake right?

4:18

I got I got smell of the.and rather

4:20

go kind of a few meters before realizing

4:22

oh shit the hum brakes on the you

4:24

know and it's kind of like that was

4:27

my life. like wanting to be like a

4:29

wild horse. you know just like breaking free

4:31

but not be able. To my being

4:33

restrained by something living life with blink

4:35

is on was essentially my experience of

4:38

life on. I was stuck in a

4:40

really vicious cycle of it like and

4:42

will get into science like what I'll

4:45

call actually does to your to your

4:47

brain and body because the thing. If.

4:49

You haven't heard. It's. It's.

4:52

Pretty interesting. like is drinking alcohol seems

4:54

so innocent and I everyone does it

4:56

feel. glass of wine here, Narrow is

4:58

front and I am gonna blow my

5:01

brains out in and and go on

5:03

up and again. You know we're not,

5:05

we're not mom and dad Herber it's

5:08

it's really really bad feet and I

5:10

think I think I think one of

5:12

the really interesting things is socially is

5:14

the alcohol was probably one of the

5:17

only addictive drugs. That. If

5:19

you say you're not going to

5:21

partake in it, That.

5:23

People find that socially unacceptable. I.

5:25

Do think that that stigma is shifting.

5:27

I don't make any conscious effort to

5:29

hang out with people that don't drink

5:32

but I do find that are on

5:34

of the people I gravitate towards. don't

5:36

drink much. Yep, you know we spend

5:38

more time together and you don't drink?

5:40

Really? You know I very rarely drink.

5:42

A lot of the people I look

5:44

up to on admire. Don't. Drink.

5:47

I. Saw I began to notice that when I was a

5:49

bad. Drinker: That. Like a

5:51

lot of the people I want to be like. Don't

5:54

touch alcohol as.

5:57

It. seems an obvious thing right there of

5:59

is your most switched on, you're more productive,

6:01

you can achieve more with hours in

6:03

your day because you're not recovering. It

6:06

seems obvious but it's just worth highlighting. Will

6:08

you take us through what

6:11

happens when you put

6:13

alcohol in your system? Yeah,

6:15

so there's obviously several

6:17

different types of alcohol but we're looking at

6:20

ethanol. Ethanol is the one that the only

6:22

one that humans can really process. There's

6:25

something called NAD that's

6:27

readily available in your body and

6:29

this breaks ethanol into something called

6:31

acetyl aldehyde which, there's

6:33

no other way of saying it, is a

6:36

poison. But it's a neurotoxin as well, right?

6:38

Absolutely, so it's one of those things where

6:40

because alcohol is both water and fat soluble,

6:42

it is really, really easy and it's one

6:44

of those things that when it's in the

6:46

body can cross the blood-brain barrier

6:49

really easily and it can cross cell membranes

6:51

really easily because of its solubility in both

6:53

water and fat. So just to be clear

6:55

on that, that means that essentially

6:58

alcohol spreads

7:00

everywhere. Yeah, yeah. It goes in your

7:02

skin, it goes in your hair, it

7:04

goes in your lungs, it goes in

7:07

your brain. There's a further breakdown that

7:09

happens in the liver where this acetyl

7:11

aldehyde becomes something called acetate which again,

7:13

is a highly toxic, semi-poisonous

7:17

sort of compound. And that can

7:19

cause a lot of damage locally in

7:22

the liver which is why a lot

7:24

of people that have chronic alcohol consumption

7:26

have sort of some level of liver

7:28

degeneration over time and have liver issues

7:30

and liver disease. From a

7:32

personal perspective, what's your relationship like with

7:34

alcohol? I used to probably be like

7:36

most other people. Because of

7:39

my focus on sport and health and

7:41

performance, I've always been at the

7:43

lower end of alcohol consumption so I might

7:45

go out on a Friday or Saturday and

7:48

have a couple of beers with

7:50

mates watching the rugby, that sort of stuff, watching the football.

7:53

But more recently, I've really cut

7:55

back on the amount of alcohol I

7:57

consume to the point where I would

7:59

probably be able to count on my

8:01

hands the number of times I would drink

8:03

alcohol in a year. And I usually have

8:05

a birthday, a glass

8:08

of champagne, a wedding anniversary, my wife's

8:10

birthday, Christmas, New Year, that sort of

8:13

occasion. I'd probably have a glass of champagne or

8:16

something similar. Isn't it

8:18

funny how it feels like a celebration?

8:20

Yeah. When you do work on

8:22

it and you dig into it and you

8:24

understand it, you know, arguably a bit better

8:26

than most people have probably, you

8:28

know, given the time to it. Yeah. It's

8:30

quite a, it's a strange thing that you

8:33

drink when you're sad, you drink when

8:35

you're happy, you drink when it's your birthday,

8:37

you drink at a funeral. You know, it's

8:39

kind of like there's always a reason to be

8:41

drinking, you know, short of it being Tuesday, you

8:44

know, kind of like there's always some reason to

8:46

drink. It's such a strange thing, you know, part

8:48

of the reason that we are

8:50

doing this show, you know, all about how

8:52

you can improve your

8:55

physical wellbeing and therefore enhance your

8:58

mental wellbeing, in my opinion, is

9:00

largely due to the

9:02

fact that I'm discovering so

9:04

much interesting stuff at this

9:06

age. And I also just feel

9:10

like so much time has been wasted, largely

9:12

due to alcohol. So I've become this like

9:14

crazy obsessive person

9:17

with how to

9:19

be ideal. Optimised. Optimised,

9:21

for better word. Yeah. For better word. Yeah.

9:24

So I think since I made that shift

9:26

of, you know, consciously not drinking, so, and

9:28

when I say not drinking, not drinking alcohol,

9:30

so I'd still go into the, I'd still

9:32

enter the same social events, etc, etc. But

9:34

I would always take a non-alcoholic option. But

9:38

since I've made that conscious decision to

9:40

put my health and my wellbeing first,

9:42

the uptick in my quality of life

9:44

has really, really been noticeable to me.

9:46

I don't wake up feeling groggy. I

9:49

bounce out of bed. I sleep better.

9:51

I eat better. I

9:53

train better. So all the things that to me

9:55

are more important than drinking alcohol,

9:58

Which I don't even particularly like the taste of alcohol. I

10:00

like the taste of beer but the the

10:02

amount of non alcoholic beer is out there

10:04

that now taste in my opinion exactly the

10:06

same. So. You get all the

10:09

upside of going out and socializing the friends,

10:11

but with none of the downside. And for

10:13

me it was just one of those things

10:15

which is genuinely a no brainer yeah I

10:17

think is it's that looking ask yourself thing

10:19

as well though yet on of like you're

10:21

doing, you're taking steps to ensure that you're

10:23

living a better life. If cussing out of

10:25

color, moving it temporarily is one of those

10:27

steps you're taking, you are more likely to

10:29

eat better, You are more likely to go

10:32

to the gym that you're more likely to

10:34

get fresher, you're less likely to sue at

10:36

home, you're less likely than your own self.

10:38

Dancing, reading, guns and ammo and

10:40

will a peanut butter. It's a

10:42

really interesting thing for me. Doctor

10:44

on a Lamp K Who's who's

10:46

in your about as just Arts

10:48

I'm Stamps Had also a trained

10:50

specialists in ah Addiction says that

10:52

in order to kind of refrain

10:55

your relationship with anything toxic or

10:57

anything the you know ideally wins

10:59

be in your life. You need

11:01

a good stints of total abstinence

11:03

right? Like and in I did.

11:05

I did my three and a

11:07

half years. Of not us in

11:10

a single drop their. In that

11:12

time I was able to live

11:14

a completely different life, learn and

11:16

understand who I can be without

11:18

alcohol. A now I lit thirty

11:21

don't see alcohol. As any

11:23

kind of issue, I can have an

11:25

alcoholic drink. I can take it or

11:27

leave it. Ninety. Nine

11:29

cents the time, the idea of

11:31

having a drinks. Kind. Of revolts

11:33

me like I don't feel like drinking if

11:36

I go to watch the rugby or the

11:38

football in a pub. Yeah, you wouldn't catch

11:40

me having a pint like I don't. I

11:42

don't. I don't. I prefer my life sober.

11:45

However, In

11:47

I'm gonna St Bart's on Sunday. Cheeky Boleros

11:49

I I'll probably have a couple of drinks.

11:51

yeah whatever. On on on A I don't

11:53

see it and put yourself in a box

11:55

or I see it as as lingering issue

11:57

or a I see it as a problem

11:59

and it by the way is that glass

12:01

arose. I started being every day and you

12:03

know on the plane home and I came

12:05

home and I started to think god like

12:07

I could use a drink I would go

12:09

to Total again for a period. You know

12:11

like I'd a needs controlling. If

12:25

we're looking at from a biochemical point

12:27

of view as and when a lot

12:29

of the the issues that arise from

12:31

sort of prolonged exposure to alcohol a

12:33

often talks about excessively drinking and I

12:36

think it's really interesting to dig into

12:38

what actual from a from a chemical

12:40

point of view from a physiological point

12:42

of use what is excessive And I

12:44

know a lot of people look at

12:47

different resources different studies, but the overwhelming

12:49

body of work says that if consuming

12:51

between twelve to twenty. Four units a

12:53

week and this can be every day

12:55

or as you said occasionally going blown

12:57

the doors off a weekly thing as

12:59

a weekly things that he toss up

13:01

your hundred and sixty thousand a week

13:04

and and nine hundred and sixty hours

13:06

he can seems between twelve and twenty

13:08

four units of alcohol and then when

13:10

you actually break down y U s

13:12

i think a pint of lower alcohol

13:14

bear is to unit something upon of

13:16

stronger are called a three and as

13:18

and same similar with one think if

13:20

you're for a large glasses chablis of

13:22

something. A a two hundred and sixty i

13:24

think again you looking at three units though

13:26

she suddenly break down what that twelve to

13:28

twenty four units though he looks like list

13:30

as to a to had a lot was

13:32

i just quit say. The. Nhs

13:34

in this country recommends eating no more

13:36

than fourteen eunice a week, just essentially

13:38

to pot two pints of strong beer

13:40

and to loss loss of one and

13:43

a week. Yeah, You as will not

13:45

be drinking. Well. But that's the thing

13:47

I think so that the recession study suggests

13:49

that if you're looking at. Consuming.

13:51

Between twelve to twenty four units away

13:54

over a significant period of times that

13:56

will lead to long term near a

13:58

degeneration and sinning of you near cortex

14:00

which is we were older, all the

14:02

information and decision making happens and your

14:05

brain a case. Just to put this

14:07

into perspective, yes I would smash through.

14:09

More. Than Forty Nunez

14:12

every single day. For.

14:15

Well. Over ten years. So.

14:18

You're near corner very very light and

14:20

thirty second one. Ah yes on a

14:22

very on a very the so. When

14:24

I first started working, I doubt. I

14:27

would have roughly ten pints of Guinness

14:29

every day. Wow. So.

14:32

We had to go out. Early when the

14:34

pubs opened. Eleven or mobile whenever that was.

14:36

ah you have three four points and he

14:38

got for lunch it have three four points

14:41

and then after work you'd have you know

14:43

to three pints of have a much manager

14:45

at that stage. A

14:47

lot your sides of work by the way as

14:49

well but this is like in if he would

14:52

take you out and and mean are you a

14:54

new and that was exciting and interesting and law

14:56

as you can drink your gonna be a ship

14:58

Roka we are you know very common seem ah

15:01

you have gotten sang clients and you're boring in

15:03

i thought. That the culture there in

15:05

the city of London one in finance

15:07

broking is quite alarming. Unlike the i

15:09

don't say it say it lightly as

15:11

like if you are not a masterpiece

15:13

said you don't really have a place

15:16

of the some fans are thought like

15:18

I lost serious other on big reserves

15:20

the do thing anyway and we we

15:22

touched on added to think that is

15:24

changing do you think there is a

15:26

shift? I have no idea. Waltz

15:29

Brokerages look like today in, but

15:31

as it may, maybe not brokerages,

15:33

maybe not pigeonholing in our city

15:35

of London finance. Let's look at

15:37

broader society likes. I get the

15:39

impression from the people I meet,

15:41

the people I talk to that

15:43

there is the drink culture that

15:45

was probably quite prevalent when we

15:48

were growing up when we were

15:50

eighteen. Nineteen twenty is a lot

15:52

less prevalent now than it was

15:54

maybe twenty years ago. Absolutely, it's

15:56

it's it's It's very widely accessible.

15:58

The. Data thirds. The that

16:00

jen the and particular regions that are

16:02

in this country ah drinking but about

16:05

half as much as well as as

16:07

we strength like fifty percent of people

16:09

you leaving universities and read in south

16:12

and studies don't drink alcohol at all.

16:15

It's very difficult to substantiates whether or

16:17

not that's true, but As But does

16:20

does all kinds of reasons for that

16:22

that we don't necessarily need to go

16:24

into people loss. but you know, an

16:26

obvious one is that people live online.

16:29

far more prevalent the you know are

16:31

putting their best foot forward. doesn't often

16:33

include being hammered Seth, I'm you know.dot

16:35

table culture of worshipping a big bottle

16:38

of vodka is is clear, not as

16:40

cool as it used to be. Our

16:42

experiences are more valuable now. so you

16:44

know being out the house. Hiking,

16:48

climbing, holidays, fresh air, travel,

16:50

food, coffee In a it's

16:52

all. It's all. It's all

16:54

bomb. A more attractive way of

16:56

presenting yourself right than than showing

16:58

the world that. You're drunk all the

17:01

time. He touched on it earlier, a lot of

17:03

the time the some level of anxiety. Around

17:05

drinking and of reti look into

17:08

the what happens when you drink

17:10

alcohol rights is one of those

17:12

things where that acetone out a

17:14

hot that's running through your body

17:16

that that low level poison. Because.

17:19

It's waters on or because it's fashionable,

17:21

it transfers through that blood brain barrier

17:23

which means it is thought that impact

17:25

and they are cortex which is the

17:27

part of your brain that makes good

17:29

decisions. Are. Right? And I think

17:31

it's almost anecdotal that you know we've all

17:33

got our on a night. I had a

17:35

bit too much to drink, made some bad

17:37

decisions, and sometimes those bad decisions can have

17:40

real life ramifications, right? You can. People can

17:42

get fired, you can use a job, you

17:44

can drink and drive, and worst case scenario,

17:46

really hurt yourself For the people bus, get

17:48

caught, go to prison, lose I lose a

17:50

driving licence or that's what stuff. That's one

17:52

of those ones where. That.

17:54

Low level poison impacting your ability

17:57

to make good decisions. I

17:59

think that. Give people a lot of

18:01

anxiety around drinking coming from someone

18:03

the as abused alcohol so many

18:06

is he suddenly take his sources.

18:08

The gas is is such a

18:10

wonderful feeling to gonna be free

18:12

of that destructive psycho you know

18:14

of. A C goes without saying

18:16

I'll call is is addictive and

18:18

can create dependence furlongs alcohol consumption

18:20

to lead to physical and psychological

18:22

dependence Also isn't my find to

18:24

be a very dirty word and

18:26

I shall I think is it

18:28

gets in the way. All.

18:30

Of. People. Seeking the health of they might

18:33

need is all because the thing that people are very

18:35

worried about being labeled an alcoholic and we spoke in

18:37

a business. Quite. A

18:39

bit as in it's that it is that

18:41

label on that stigma that comes with it

18:43

that often. But. Not a barrier into

18:45

people seeking help and or on often making

18:48

that. Transition away from that.

18:50

Sort. Of routine and habit when it

18:53

comes to sort of mental health

18:55

issues that can can come from.

18:58

Excessive use of alcohol. The see

19:00

alcohol is a chemical compound as

19:02

a sedative and a depressants. When

19:05

you drinking. Did. Your from feel

19:07

great. Or. Did you feel depressed

19:09

because there's that A lot of people say

19:11

oh if I have a drink on the

19:13

last console the parties. but when we look

19:15

at it from a biochemical point of view,

19:18

the fighter outposts, a sedative and a depressants

19:20

means of the shouldn't be the case. I

19:22

was. your experience with alcohol and how it

19:24

made you feel in the moment says no,

19:26

There's no doubts right? the that first stirrings

19:28

yeah is in inverted commas fun. That's.

19:31

Probably as far as it goes to

19:33

me get my it like one or

19:35

two drinks. Every so often

19:37

I think no problem. It's.

19:39

When the two drinks becomes four five six

19:41

strings when your eyes troops there and he

19:43

starts in a longer makes sense and you

19:46

kind of just out for the sake of

19:48

being out like if you as go into

19:50

a nightclub sober. Yeah. At two in

19:52

the morning? Yet? Nobody.

19:54

In there is making any sense

19:57

you know. talking properly how does

19:59

not sucks. It is for

20:01

me the the act of

20:03

kind of. All.

20:05

That dough for mean Ross on the

20:07

on that psychological thrill of kind of

20:10

you having the occasional drink item can

20:12

be concealed find in a Vogue and

20:14

I touring. Spencer Vogue

20:16

the moment I'm i don't

20:18

drink right during the show's.

20:21

But. Like. And Vogue does

20:23

vote. has a cop provokers before every

20:25

performance and it loosens are often and

20:28

he feelings of stress you might have

20:30

before going out with sold out crowd.

20:32

you disobey abyss aura have that issue

20:34

Auto auto feel that allowed anything to

20:37

your game. Aren't feel nervous when I

20:39

go on stage to address a crowd

20:41

of people either. I don't see a

20:44

lot at all. Bots would drink loose

20:46

me off and make me do a

20:48

better job. maybe with a cooler social

20:51

lubricant done by the way that people

20:53

that are often uncomfortable in certain social

20:55

situations a drink unit comes us now

20:57

at it. lubricate some socially so that

21:00

they are more affable. They are in

21:02

their heads, less ice I think from

21:04

a. Social. Setting it can

21:07

make people more social to a point. I

21:09

think that if you are able like if

21:11

you are able to do it perfectly Yeah

21:13

right it would be to have a drink.

21:15

In the middle of the afternoon.

21:17

Thrive when you're socializing. Death. Ah.

21:20

Ah and leave it at that because

21:22

you would get the don't mean rush

21:24

you would get the added confidence that

21:27

you might be after you get always

21:29

sings it's it's when your brain starts

21:31

to tell you the things that sitting

21:33

in the opposite direction of the pleasure

21:35

pain balance right that you need more

21:37

pleasurable things. yeah more drinking to it's

21:40

had to bring you back to were

21:42

level that than feels normal then you're

21:44

constantly chasing it's right out your drinking

21:46

to then signs feel with that ross

21:48

that you got from the first. Drink.

21:51

And that's when things can

21:53

become problematic, right? Being drunk.

21:55

Nobody. Likes being drunk. It's

21:58

the getting drunk that. En

22:00

route a single person has ever woken up

22:02

after massive nights and gone. I wish

22:04

I drank more booze. Lost. My son said

22:06

those words of a never come on

22:08

anyone's mouth ever right And then you're You're

22:11

kind of just chasing a high. That.

22:13

You probably have, naturally. Yeah,

22:16

but you know he even made a

22:18

artificial. Was. Disgusting.

22:21

Poisonous. Toxin. In a

22:23

auto racing? Were telling people anything they don't already

22:25

know. The or I like. I

22:27

think I think everybody is aware that you know

22:29

excessive alcohol consumption a if you are so don't

22:31

see on the first doesn't say it But I

22:33

think the value of this conversation i'm from what

22:36

I'm picking out so far is that. What?

22:39

Is cloth medically as excessive drinking and

22:41

what? these sort of and I just

22:43

guidelines to be around drinking is probably

22:45

a lot less than people are west.

22:47

Even even before I started do my

22:49

research for the subsides I saw upon

22:51

a there was one unit where it

22:53

turns out to drinking stronger bear Assassins

22:55

three same with one eye for drinking

22:57

a glass of wine is one units

22:59

Saturday closer to three so you know

23:01

when you looking at that. Twelve to

23:03

twenty four units a week and the

23:05

physiological impact that it can have on

23:07

health well being, performance. It's that

23:09

it's that level that people have got

23:12

to sort of reassess their their life

23:14

around isn't isn't Salaries are crazy as

23:16

well. Yes, I think I think that's something

23:18

that we should. Delve. Into his. If you're

23:20

looking at white management as part of it, you know

23:22

you're trying to lose way and and and trying to

23:25

look after your health from up. Keeping. Your

23:27

be I might lower. Amount

23:29

of calories that are anarcho is

23:31

is massive but also the negative

23:33

bi directional relationship that you have

23:35

with alcohol and food to when

23:37

you drink. You. Eat rubbish

23:40

and also when you're a rubber suit and to drink

23:42

so is one those things where they they impact each

23:44

other on the spectrum. Well. This.

23:47

Has been a fun at that age.

23:49

Ah vous the positive impacts of alcohol

23:51

can have on your physical and mental

23:53

health. Ah they're just joking but I

23:56

do think it's important to butter and

23:58

you know it it it is biased

24:00

very nature like a boring thing to

24:02

damn right? So many people enjoy a

24:05

good drink and for some people is

24:07

a really effective way of blowing off

24:09

of it steam and you know ah

24:11

and see unsealing less stressed unfortunately from

24:14

a neuro ah, scientific perspective or our

24:16

are know positives rules and calico and

24:18

we wish we could tell you differently

24:21

and this you ago word of advice

24:23

for me I suppose is se feel

24:25

that you might have a problem with

24:27

alcohol or the eating too much. Then

24:30

you definitely do right? People who

24:32

don't have problems with alcohol don't

24:34

question whether or not they have problems

24:36

with alcohol. And by the i love

24:39

people he dm me asking for advice

24:41

of alcohol or happens on a daily

24:43

basis. Ah, I see your masters and

24:46

I care about them. I think it's

24:48

I think it's really important soon to

24:50

address it, it can completely change your

24:53

life and transform the way you are.

24:55

And also just remember having a really

24:57

negative relationship with alcohol is probably a

25:00

burden. To to to other people as

25:02

well in you and your family and people

25:04

who are close to so consider that when.

25:07

Ah, looking to may change. Is

25:09

this has been interesting? See you

25:11

are just like to highlight the

25:14

I recently interviewed Bryony Gordon and

25:16

we go into all kinds of

25:18

deep detailed stories about ah experience

25:21

with alcohol as well which I

25:23

personally sounds very fascinating com so

25:25

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