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1:00

Tonight's

1:02

guest was featured on episode two

1:04

ninety eight. That show was titled

1:06

Living With SaaS Watch. And on that show,

1:09

Robin talked about what it's like living on

1:11

a property that has an almost continuous

1:13

SaaS watch presence. Well, on

1:15

tonight's show, she's come back to talk about

1:17

what to do if things actually go wrong.

1:20

Robin, thanks so much for coming back.

1:23

Thanks,

1:23

Vic. It's always good to be on your show.

1:25

I always enjoy it. It was

1:26

always great having you on. Thanks

1:29

as always for your time.

1:30

Robin, before I ask you to

1:32

start giving us advice for what to do when

1:34

things go sideways with them,

1:36

please tell us about some of the instances you've

1:38

experienced where things went sideways

1:41

and didn't go the way you'd want them to go with

1:43

the sasquatch around your property. You

1:46

know, mine, I've been very fortunate I

1:48

haven't had as many problems as

1:50

per se a lot of people have. The

1:53

biggest issues that I've encountered

1:56

isn't so much of them

1:58

being aggressive. I have not hit aggressive

2:00

ones at my house. I've gone to

2:02

other areas where people have called me to come

2:05

and help with aggressive ones, but the

2:07

ones that my house have always been

2:09

very well behaved except the

2:11

kids. The kids do get

2:13

into trouble just like our kids do.

2:15

It's not a whole lot different. We

2:17

had a situation where the

2:19

way my house is laid out, it's

2:21

a two story, but

2:24

on the one end, it's actually only a

2:26

one story, and that's where my bedroom's at. And

2:28

we had the adolescents who were

2:30

forever getting up on the roof. and jumping

2:32

around and playing around and having a good

2:34

time up there. And it sounded like an earthquake

2:36

on my roof. And I went out

2:38

there, I don't know how many times and

2:41

howard Adam to get off the roof, and

2:43

they did. And I went to the parents

2:45

and, you know, I mean, as far as

2:47

walking out, and I knew the parents we're outside because

2:50

I could see everything moving around in the bushes.

2:52

And I said, you've gotta get the kids down.

2:54

And that would work temporarily. and

2:57

it finally ended up where I

3:00

went outside and as ridiculous as

3:02

the sounds I don't think it would ever work

3:05

most of the time. did the whole mom

3:07

voice because I have a lot of my own children,

3:10

did the mom voice, and you will get it off this

3:12

rock, but you will get your hairy butt off right

3:14

now. And they finally, it let

3:16

up. But the only other

3:18

time that I've had a lot of issues,

3:21

I have a couple of mini

3:23

pigs and I have kennels

3:25

in my garage. And they wanted in

3:27

with the animals. That's all they wanted to do.

3:30

And they would push the bottom

3:32

of my garage door and

3:34

they would push it in. And

3:36

they literally busted the bottom

3:39

panels on my

3:40

garage door. And I have a two car garage door.

3:42

It's one big piece. they

3:46

bent it right and off the tracks,

3:49

you know. And that was a lot of going

3:51

out and standing out there and, you know,

3:53

you have to stop this. You're only gonna hurt the

3:56

They're gonna get and try to reason with

3:59

something that

4:01

While they are much more

4:03

intelligent than we are in many,

4:05

many ways, they

4:07

also have a child

4:09

like tenancy to

4:11

them. So when you're talking to the kids, which

4:13

this is what was doing it, you

4:15

have to talk to them like you would a child.

4:17

you know, and I had that

4:20

issue when I was in Michigan because

4:22

they kept tearing open. I had a

4:24

manufactured home, and they would tear the screen

4:26

out from the bottom of

4:28

it, and then go under the house.

4:30

And then they would go under my bedroom

4:33

or my kitchen depending where I was at, and they

4:35

would lay on their back and they would knock

4:38

on my floor. And then I could

4:40

knock back and I could go anywhere in the house and knock

4:42

and they would wiggle their way down there and knock back

4:44

at me. it was difficult. I

4:46

mean, finally getting through to them that,

4:48

you know, this was not acceptable

4:50

behavior. Like, I don't go to their home and

4:52

I don't tear apart their structure pictures, and I

4:54

don't tear apart their bags. And, you

4:56

know, so therefore, I

4:58

did not want that happening at my house.

5:00

Yeah. I

5:00

don't think anyone want that to their house.

5:03

Just for clarity, were

5:05

the ones you told us about who pushed in the

5:07

bottom section of your garage door?

5:09

Did you say those were juveniles or

5:11

actually adults?

5:13

Those were the juveniles. You

5:14

know, the adults are much more I

5:17

find the adults much more reasonable.

5:19

But the juveniles, again, they're kids.

5:22

these beings are a type of people.

5:25

They're not our people. They're not exactly

5:27

like us, but they are a type of people. And

5:30

whether you

5:31

transcribe to the fact that they are a

5:33

people or whether you're trying

5:36

to believe that there's something else.

5:38

There's still juveniles. There's still children.

5:41

and children of anything

5:44

can get excited and get goofy

5:46

and, you know, get all wound up,

5:48

and that's what they would do. And they would

5:50

know the animals were in there. And

5:52

if I left, I would come back in the

5:54

bottom panel of my garriage

5:56

door would be pushed in. And

5:58

there were they've just

5:59

that what they've

6:00

done to that door, it's gotta be replaced

6:02

now. I mean, we've been at back so many

6:04

times. It's pathetic.

6:06

but

6:07

they also I knew they weren't trying

6:09

to be destructive. They just wanted to see

6:11

the animals that was their whole intent

6:13

purposes and they would push these

6:15

panels in so that they could get on their bellies

6:17

and wiggle in there. You know,

6:19

we'd find muddy handprints and muddy footprints

6:22

in there. And there is occasionally where

6:24

we would get up in the morning and all the

6:26

animals would be loose. I mean,

6:28

somebody was unlocking the kennels and,

6:31

you know, we would have a

6:33

chain on the one with the mini pigs, so the

6:35

pigs couldn't pop out the bottom, and that would

6:37

be unsnapped. And the kennels

6:39

for the dogs were released. And and

6:41

we have cages for

6:43

a couple of the cats that at

6:45

nighttime because they're troublemakers when left unattended,

6:47

they go out and they have a pen that they go

6:49

in. And they would be let loose

6:51

as well. It's

6:54

just they were being kids. They

6:56

were just literally being kids. The

6:59

adults, I've been very fortunate where

7:01

I'm not having problems with the adults at

7:03

my house. I know people that

7:05

have and I've gone to their house and tried to help.

7:07

And I've talked to a multitude

7:09

of people that have had problems with adults A

7:12

lot of it is there's a lot

7:14

of miscommunication. What

7:16

we believe to be perceived one way is

7:18

not how they perceive it to be. Their words don't

7:20

mean the same as ours all the time. Their

7:23

body language gets misread

7:26

a lot, and they misread ours a lot as

7:28

well.

7:29

So that has a lot to do with it

7:31

as

7:31

far as bridging that gap to get things

7:33

rectified. Howard Bauchner: Yes,

7:35

one thing when the kids are misbehaving but

7:37

the adults holy cow, that's totally

7:39

different. And talking about the garage

7:41

door and the juveniles pushing in that

7:43

bottom section, As you know, that's

7:45

not easy to do. If the juveniles

7:48

can do that, it just makes you wonder what the adults

7:50

can and even can't do.

7:53

Yeah. The strength is immense.

7:55

I know people that have literally

7:58

been out in the woods and heard

8:00

like, you know, sometimes you'll see where people have abandoned

8:03

cars and they dump them in the woods or whatever.

8:05

And I had a friend of mine that

8:07

talked one time years ago about he

8:09

saw this car

8:10

that had been abandoned out in the woods he

8:12

walked past it,

8:14

and then he heard ripping metal.

8:16

And

8:16

next thing, he knew a bumper from this power

8:18

had been

8:19

ripped off and thrown over a tree

8:21

and landed didn't land on him.

8:23

It was past him where it landed. But, I

8:25

mean, the strength is just incredible.

8:27

It is. We had a dog

8:30

kennel in our front yard

8:32

because I had

8:32

an animal rescue, and now it was kinda like the

8:35

holding pens when they would the

8:37

animals would first come in so that I can

8:39

make sure that they got vetted and that nobody was

8:41

sick to can, you know, get anybody else

8:43

ill. And we

8:45

had a feral dog that we

8:47

had caught, and she was in there, and she got

8:49

loose.

8:49

And she was awful to catch.

8:51

I couldn't we try it months couldn't

8:53

catch her again, and it was finally

8:57

the SaaS watch that got her

8:59

back

8:59

in there. We had seen that

9:01

pick her up before. I had got it on video

9:04

camera off my security footage, and

9:06

I didn't see one that had picked

9:08

her up. and then he put

9:10

her back down and she was running around. And I

9:12

said one day, I said, you guys, she's gonna

9:14

hurt somebody. She's mean. You know,

9:16

I need her back in this pen. And

9:19

I

9:19

left to go into town and I came back

9:21

and

9:21

she was in there and they had shut the door.

9:24

But when they shut the door, you

9:26

have that horseshoe latch. that

9:29

goes up and then comes down on the post to shut

9:31

a cannot door.

9:32

And they had taken that

9:34

horseshoe piece and pinched it

9:36

together. That

9:37

is solid steel and it's thick.

9:40

I don't

9:40

know any way

9:43

you could take a slug camera to that, and you never

9:45

be able to pinch it the way this thing was. It

9:46

looked like it had literally been pinched together.

9:49

I I've

9:49

never seen anything to it. To this day, we've never been

9:52

able to heat it unbend it or anything.

9:54

We have to buy a whole new latch for it.

9:56

Wow. Yeah. And

9:57

here's story is about them doing things

9:59

like that. It really does make you wonder,

10:01

like I said, what they can't do.

10:03

If you've had a big foot

10:05

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10:07

Please go to bigfoot eyewitness dot com

10:09

and submit a report. I'd love to hear

10:11

from you. Is there any one

10:13

thing you can point to you, Robin, as being the

10:16

single most common miss stake people make

10:18

that creates the most risk of problems

10:20

arising around their properties. Yeah.

10:22

There's

10:22

a couple of things. I think

10:25

people

10:27

want the interaction. And

10:30

then when they get it,

10:32

either it's too much for them and it

10:35

scares them or they misinterpret it. And

10:38

so that's problematic. You

10:40

know, they do a lot of things where, like,

10:42

especially in my house. They're always looking in the

10:44

windows. Just, you know, it's like a Peep

10:46

Show. and we don't mind it

10:48

because we're used to it, but

10:49

it frightens people. And

10:51

then they automatically assume that it's a sign

10:53

of a rush when it's not, it's

10:55

not any different than we walk out in

10:57

the woods all the time to try to see them.

10:59

We're out there looking for them while they're looking

11:02

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11:04

ways. And so then we think people get frightened

11:06

by that, and it gets

11:08

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then

12:26

the other thing I notice with people

12:30

is

12:30

if

12:31

they even see them, they

12:33

automatically assume

12:35

aggression. You

12:37

know?

12:37

I mean, my neighbor and I talked about this

12:39

on one of your other shows, she

12:42

was planning a party in her backyard for

12:44

her son that had gotten married.

12:46

And we were invited, and they were cleaning out

12:48

the backyard. and her

12:50

son he was in his thirties, her

12:52

other

12:52

son was out there clearing some brush,

12:54

and he

12:54

went to go toss it into the

12:57

tree line. and there was a

12:59

very large male standing there. All

13:01

he was doing was standing there,

13:03

and her son had never seen one

13:05

before. and he looked at it and, you

13:07

know, they have a very guttural

13:09

sound. Number one,

13:10

their vocal ranges are

13:12

much broader than ours. They can go much

13:14

deeper and much higher. And

13:17

so all it did was made like a

13:19

gurgling noise, you know,

13:21

which I think he interpreted as

13:23

a growl whether it was.

13:25

Sometimes even when they say, hi, because it's so

13:27

guttural. It sounds like

13:29

a growl even when it's not.

13:31

But as soon as he saw it, he

13:33

panicked. And he ran to the house and

13:35

he told his mom, I need a gun. I need a gun.

13:37

I need a gun. That is the

13:39

biggest mistake.

13:41

ever. I

13:42

mean, I will be the first one to

13:45

say that if you need to protect yourself

13:47

and your family from harm, and

13:50

that's the route you need to go. That's okay. I

13:52

can understand it because you're gonna protect your

13:54

family, but not everything is

13:56

trying to kill you. And

13:58

our people

13:59

tend to want to kill what they don't understand.

14:02

And the biggest problem is

14:04

not understanding this

14:07

type of people. And so when

14:09

he did that,

14:10

fortunately, I'd already talked to his mom.

14:12

And we'd had several

14:14

conversations on the SaaS watch, and I told her I

14:16

said,

14:16

you know, when you see them, everybody

14:19

that are unaware of them, the first thing they

14:21

do is they want to shoot at them. and

14:24

you don't wanna fight with

14:25

these beans, you're

14:26

not gonna win. You might still forget about it

14:29

because on a conscious

14:31

level, they're all connected. And if

14:33

there's one, there's a ton more.

14:35

And

14:35

you just

14:36

you can't win that way. you

14:38

just can't. And I told her, I said,

14:40

you don't want that kind of war. So she was

14:43

very smart about it. And she said,

14:45

you

14:45

know, Robin said that they were back.

14:46

They're no guns. unless

14:49

we absolutely have to protect ourselves

14:51

because, you know, we're in danger of

14:53

physically being killed. No guns.

14:56

And so he didn't take the gun out.

14:58

And they have a very good relationship with

15:00

them now. They've walked across the yard and they've,

15:02

you know, they've wander around their yard every now

15:04

and that not on daily basis as

15:06

much as I get it at my house, but

15:08

they have that peace just

15:10

because you see them does not

15:12

mean you're in danger.

15:14

There are some that are aggressive. I will be the

15:17

first to say they're not all kind.

15:19

But unless you are

15:21

actually being physically threatened,

15:22

don't cross that line. you

15:24

live with a mutual respect. They don't understand

15:27

property lines. So, you know, you're

15:29

standing out there saying, these are my property

15:31

lines, I pay taxes, I get off of it. you

15:33

know where because they don't understand that.

15:35

But you

15:36

have to find a common ground to

15:38

share the land. truth

15:40

is it was theirs before it was ours. It's

15:43

all about your approach. It's how you

15:45

handle it. And I'm talking about the

15:47

ones that are decent. I'm not talking about the

15:49

the really aggressive ones. That's a little bit

15:51

different. But for the most

15:53

part, if they're

15:54

coming into your yard, they're where you're there.

15:56

It's not like you showed up and scared them.

16:00

that's

16:00

different than if you went out in the woods and you

16:02

went

16:02

to their home, then they might

16:05

be more aggressive. But you

16:07

know, if you're at your home and they know your

16:09

house is there and it's been there and they're coming

16:11

to you,

16:12

try to make it a workable situation.

16:15

It's a mutual respect. And you

16:17

can tell them if they get

16:18

two in your face. I've had multiple

16:21

people contact me and

16:23

say, these things are slap in the

16:25

house and they're knocking

16:27

on the side of the house or they're looking

16:29

in the windows and they're

16:31

all individuals Nobody

16:32

can predict what each individual will do

16:35

anymore than we can predict

16:35

what we do, but you

16:37

can talk to them. they

16:39

can speak our language. They can they

16:41

have their own language as well. And,

16:44

you know, you try to be reasonable with

16:46

them. Don't be putting out a ton of food.

16:48

You know, I did that for years. I

16:50

was an idiot. I was fortunate

16:52

that the group that I was working

16:55

with, which was a large, large group, were

16:57

not aggressive at all in nature, and I had no

16:59

problems with it. But I can tell you just as

17:01

many people that it put out food

17:03

for them that if they stopped, then

17:05

they were pounding on the house and screaming to

17:08

hell, and they wanted food. First

17:09

of all, you're never gonna put enough out that's

17:12

gonna feed them. It's just impossible.

17:14

All it is is a snack. If you wanna

17:16

gift them, give feathers, give jewelry,

17:18

you know, like beads or or what, you

17:20

know, we used to put toys out for the

17:23

little kids, you want stuff that isn't going to be

17:25

so small they're going to choke just like you would for

17:27

a toddler? Do those things.

17:29

Occasionally, it's okay to put food out.

17:31

Just don't do it on a regular basis because you're

17:33

inviting trouble. Yeah.

17:34

Like they say, it's best not to start trouble

17:36

if you. Can't handle one that

17:39

rises. So sounds like good

17:41

advice. Touching on what you just

17:43

said about the aggressive ones, what

17:45

are your thoughts about type threes?

17:48

myself, I

17:48

don't do them in the type categories. I

17:50

know a lot of people doing. There's nothing wrong

17:52

with that. But as far

17:54

as the aggressive ones go,

17:57

The less you

17:58

have to

17:59

deal with in the better. I mean,

18:02

I always tell people to try

18:04

first, and I know everybody laughs

18:06

at this. just like you would with

18:08

a crappy neighbor. Try to talk

18:10

it out. You don't have to be in their face to

18:12

talk about it. Go out in the yard. you know,

18:14

if they're out there, stand back there,

18:16

and and don't yell the

18:18

talk. You're only welcome here if you have

18:20

peace in love with your heart. I

18:21

will share land with you, but I don't want

18:24

you here. You know, if you're intending to

18:26

harm or if you're trying to be aggressive, that

18:28

is not welcome here. Set

18:30

your boundaries.

18:31

you're welcome to share this lamb, but I

18:33

do not want you

18:34

pounding on my house or that type

18:36

of thing. And I always really is

18:39

silly

18:39

as it sounds and people laugh at it.

18:41

I always tell people to make that your

18:43

starting point because when you

18:45

you skip these steps,

18:48

it

18:48

could have been an easy fix. And I wanna say eight out

18:50

of ten times, putting

18:53

those healthy boundaries up,

18:56

works.

18:56

work when

18:58

it

18:58

came to them on

19:00

my roof, you know, they climb up

19:03

on the pine trees, and they get on the roof, and

19:05

then they go to the second floor, it

19:07

can damage it. I mean, these things

19:09

weigh a ton.

19:10

And I've been fortunate they have not

19:13

damaged the roof. I think one slid

19:15

down the rip one time and a shingle came off,

19:17

but that was

19:17

it. And

19:19

it checked a

19:20

repetition of going back

19:22

and going outside and telling the parents,

19:24

you know, I these are

19:26

your children. I would never discipline your children,

19:29

but you have to make them stop. I

19:31

don't let my and put it in terms they

19:33

understand. I don't let my children go

19:35

to your home and

19:38

destroy things. I do not children come to my home and

19:40

destroy things. And people will

19:41

laugh at something as simple as that,

19:43

but there has been more cases than

19:46

NASA that has worked.

19:48

where it's all about a

19:51

mutual respect. Okay? They're

19:53

never gonna submit to us. We're not gonna

19:55

submit to them and that you shouldn't. It's all

19:57

free will. but can be a mutual

19:59

respect and

19:59

that really tends to be the

20:02

key. When

20:02

people were telling me years ago

20:05

about how their animals

20:07

being

20:07

attacked by the SaaS watch. And

20:09

I thought, oh, that's terrible. You know? And

20:11

but I went outside. I hit a coyote. I think it

20:13

was a coyote that got hold of

20:16

cat one time I had. And

20:18

I

20:18

didn't know if it was them or if

20:20

it was the coyote. I felt it was

20:22

a coyote, but I wanted to make sure and I just

20:24

simply went out sit in front of the woods and

20:26

said, listen. I don't hurt your children. You

20:29

don't hurt mine. I don't hurt your pets.

20:31

You don't hurt mine. and

20:34

that actually worked. They

20:36

will play with my dogs. They will play with

20:38

my cats. I have three

20:40

large pens that are like ten

20:42

by ten or

20:42

ten by twelve, something like that. In my

20:45

front yard, that

20:47

are feral cats that I didn't want

20:49

coyotes, and we've got a

20:51

cougar around here and stuff. And they've

20:54

been

20:54

tamed down

20:55

down and they've got these

20:58

pens with apps on them so they can't climb out with dog houses in it in

21:00

their bed and water and everything. But

21:02

nothing can get in these

21:03

pens as far as to,

21:05

like, go through the

21:07

wiring. and they'll go in there all the

21:09

time and they'll take all the cat food out and then they'll fill

21:11

their bowls of pine cones. And

21:13

every ounce of cat food will be gone, but

21:15

there'll be pine cones that can't fit through

21:17

the wiring

21:18

will be in there and only in the

21:21

bowl. And

21:21

the bowls are inside the cat houses, so

21:24

there's no way that would happen it

21:25

wasn't for the sasquatch.

21:27

But they've never hurt the animals.

21:29

I

21:29

have a parnies that they well, they like

21:32

all my dogs, but they love the parnies because

21:34

she's white. And I walk out in

21:36

the backyard that's fenced in every

21:38

day, and I check to make sure there's nothing in the

21:40

yard that any of the dogs can get

21:42

her done. And I went

21:44

out one day and everything was fine other than

21:46

their toys. And I looked out fifteen minutes

21:48

after I went in the house and here's the parannies with

21:50

a two by four. They

21:52

gave her a two by four. I go out

21:54

by the fence line and Courser's gigantic

21:56

footprint, and

21:57

she has a two by four. very

21:59

proudly trotting

21:59

along the yard with it. That wasn't

22:02

there even fifteen minutes

22:04

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22:05

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have a very sympathetic relationship

23:45

with them. but it has to be

23:47

based on respect. That

23:49

being said, and I I always

23:51

bring this up not to sound

23:53

repetitive, but there are bad ones out there. There

23:55

really are. And the bad

23:57

ones can be very difficult. But,

23:59

you know, the best you can do is try to

24:01

set boundaries You wanna use

24:03

going for weapons as a very, very

24:05

last resort. You really

24:06

and truly

24:07

do. I mean, it's not

24:09

beneficial to you. it's

24:11

not beneficial to them. There

24:13

has been countless

24:16

countless

24:16

how experiences

24:18

that have had

24:20

weapons miss

24:21

fire when they're around. They

24:24

don't work right.

24:25

I have a friend that had

24:27

a kyle

24:28

out in her field

24:30

but it was going after their cattle. Her husband

24:31

went out to shoot it and it went using

24:34

a gun that he'd had for

24:35

years, never had a problem

24:36

with And every time you go to shoot at

24:38

the smile, it would miss

24:40

fire. Come to find

24:42

out, there was a dispatch out there as

24:44

well. and the coyote was probably nobody knows for sure. It

24:47

was probably one of theirs. I mean,

24:49

they use the animals in the woods for

24:51

pets. They just

24:52

have little do. just like we would,

24:54

you know, have a dog or a cat so do

24:57

they? So it's just that, you know, if you could

24:59

avoid going to that route,

25:02

all the better. And trying to

25:04

do things to

25:06

two

25:07

in a

25:08

harmful manner to them, to

25:11

dissuade them only makes them matter. I know people

25:13

that have tried to put poison

25:14

food out thinking that, you know, that

25:17

would kill them off or whatever they

25:19

know. And you I mean, that you're wasting

25:21

your time and not only is that

25:23

worth

25:23

me to even contemplate

25:25

anybody doing that, but

25:27

they know it. And now you've made

25:29

an enemy. So when you're

25:29

trying to work with these ones

25:32

that, you know, are

25:33

coming around,

25:36

try to work it out in a peaceful manner because this

25:38

is not something

25:40

that you wanna

25:42

make mad. I

25:44

mean, you want your privacy and you certainly don't wanna bow

25:46

down to them. I mean, you don't want them

25:48

to be

25:48

running a mock up over

25:49

your property. But at the same time, you

25:51

to have some type of mutual respect

25:53

respect if you want them

25:54

to respect you. They're

25:56

not going to

25:57

be respectful to you. If you're not respectful of

25:59

them, it just

25:59

doesn't work. And these things are, like,

26:02

dealing with the Flintstones bam bam

26:03

ruble. You know what

26:05

I mean? The mentality of a

26:08

child, but the strength

26:10

of

26:10

King Kong. It sounds to

26:12

me like the golden rule goes a long way when

26:14

it comes to dealing with them.

26:16

I

26:17

really believe that and it's a lot of it. Again,

26:19

we have to go back to

26:22

understanding what they mean

26:23

when they

26:24

do things. you know, people contact me

26:26

and say, I just have had the

26:28

most horrifying experience. I'm

26:31

traumatized. And I'm like, okay.

26:33

What happened? Well, there was a

26:35

SaaS watch, and I'm just

26:37

traumatized. And I always say the same

26:39

things. Did it touch you?

26:41

No. what didn't

26:43

do that was so traumatizing, other than

26:46

existing. And for the

26:47

record, we look as scary to them as they

26:49

do to us. And they'll be

26:52

like, well, you know, wave it to arms at

26:54

me. Well, to

26:55

begin with, that can mean a lot of things. If you're

26:58

it was our people, waving the

27:00

arms as a surrender.

27:03

But

27:03

yet, when people see them

27:05

doing that, they automatically

27:08

assume aggression. which I really can't figure that out

27:09

because for us, it means surrender. What

27:12

they do

27:13

is one they may

27:14

be trying to draw attention to themselves to keep

27:16

you from seeing your children. There

27:18

has

27:19

been multiple times that they've

27:21

done that for various people trying to draw

27:23

their attention from something that could harm

27:26

one of our people. and they're trying to help us, hurt

27:29

us. And then

27:30

the other thing is, that

27:32

is a warning for you not to go there.

27:34

They don't want to be violent.

27:37

that all of

27:37

them, they're trying to get

27:39

you to move

27:40

away. So you have to understand that.

27:42

I have another person that I worked

27:44

with that had one that every time she went out in her

27:47

yard, it would show up.

27:49

And it it was

27:49

frightening for her, and I can under that

27:51

you're looking at something that's ten, twelve feet tall

27:54

and just massive,

27:56

and that is frightening. And

27:58

I always

27:59

tell

27:59

people if you

28:01

are out with them, make sure you're

28:03

in a position where you're not cut off.

28:06

from getting into your home because unless you know the intent

28:08

of that particular individual,

28:11

you don't want to be where they

28:13

can cut you off from getting back into

28:15

your house. In

28:16

her case, she had

28:18

health issues, and he

28:20

was there in protective. That's

28:23

all he

28:23

was doing. It was making sure she was okay when she

28:26

was out in the yard. And as soon as she went in the

28:28

house, he just simply left. I

28:30

mean,

28:30

I've had multiple times

28:32

that they've shown up here to help.

28:34

We had

28:35

a huge trait in our yard

28:37

that was just mental, like a form

28:39

of potash pine tree. extremely

28:42

large base to it. And we

28:43

are getting ready to have a hurricane in here in

28:45

South Carolina, and the thing was

28:48

already tippy and I was concerned it was

28:50

gonna come down on

28:52

my house over on my it would have hit the top

28:54

of the garage where the bonus room is.

28:56

We had just moved here. We

28:58

had no way to get that trade down. We had no

29:00

tools here. When we found out

29:02

the hurricane was gonna hit, there was nobody around

29:04

a hire to come in and remove this

29:07

tree. And I jokingly

29:08

said, I was standing on the porch, and

29:10

I was like, hey, guys, I could really use some

29:12

assistance, you know, just jokey room.

29:14

I never thought anything would happen. And

29:17

we had gone into the garage, and we heard

29:19

this big swishy noise, and it was, like,

29:21

this huge wind where it sucked all the air

29:24

out of garage. And I looked at my husband and I

29:26

said, my gosh, is hurricane's not supposed to be

29:28

here till tomorrow? Like, what was

29:30

that? Went out in the backyard

29:31

and not only had they

29:33

not they had tree down, and

29:35

they were the only thing that could have done

29:37

it because it was not only down,

29:39

it had been pulled back from the

29:41

stump of good ten feet. and it had

29:44

been where it would have fallen. Normally, it

29:46

would have been on top of the garage. It had been pushed

29:48

over about another five to

29:50

six feet past the house. but

29:52

the stump of it I got

29:53

the stump, but where the brake was at,

29:56

the tree itself was

29:57

broken off the stump and pulled back

29:59

ten

29:59

feet behind it so that it clearly missed the

30:02

house. That could

30:03

not have happened that. That's all. It's not

30:06

possible.

30:06

Wow. and then

30:08

all the grass and the foliage that was

30:10

around it, you could see where they were standing

30:12

because it was all flat and down.

30:16

and

30:16

then we had visuals of them in the backyard within a

30:18

matter of minutes afterwards. They

30:20

can

30:20

be very helpful. They can be your worst

30:23

nightmare. They can be your best

30:25

friend. It's how you approach them. And

30:28

we have

30:28

no control on how they're gonna approach us, but

30:30

we have the ultimate control on how we

30:33

approach them. and

30:35

that's really what it comes down

30:37

to. If you

30:37

have any chance of working with them as

30:39

far as to live

30:41

and share space, without

30:45

any issues. It has to be

30:47

done respectfully. I mean, it's

30:49

okay to talk to them. Even if you

30:51

don't see them. You may know they're in the bushes. You

30:53

may know they're out there.

30:55

Say something to them.

30:57

These are my

30:59

boundaries. but explain it. You have to understand it. You

31:01

cannot leave any wiggle room. You have to

31:03

be one hundred percent specific.

31:06

If there's any wiggle room, they misinterpret because

31:08

our words don't mean the same. So

31:11

if I

31:11

was going to say to one, which

31:14

I never would because I they don't bother me at all, but I didn't

31:16

want them on my porch. I wouldn't say, I don't

31:18

want you coming up to the house because they wouldn't

31:21

understand what that means. I

31:23

would say, you

31:24

are not allowed to walk onto

31:27

my porch by where you enter my home.

31:29

I mean,

31:30

be specific you cannot leave

31:32

wiggle room. They just do not understand

31:35

it.

31:35

And there are gonna be ones that

31:37

will listen and there

31:38

will be some that don't. I mean, if you get

31:40

to some that are so aggressive

31:43

that they're not willing to listen. That's when you

31:45

need to reach out. There's a

31:47

multitude of people besides me

31:49

that can help with that kind of

31:51

thing. and reach out to somebody so that you can

31:53

have that private conversation with them and

31:55

and see because there are it's everyone

31:57

is different. Every individual is

31:59

different. cannot deal with every single

32:01

one the same way. There's

32:03

individual as we are. But don't

32:05

be leaving things out that's gonna entice

32:08

them. They love the bonfires and

32:10

they love to come up while you're having your

32:12

bonfire and cooking your food or whatever, and

32:15

that's great. They'll stand in the tree lines. They'll be

32:17

in the woods watch and you'll see a lot of eye

32:19

shine clean up

32:19

after it. Don't leave all that

32:22

food out. Don't leave a bunch of trash

32:24

out. No. They're not an animal, but they are

32:26

not opposed to going through a trash apparel.

32:29

If they're hungry, we have

32:31

homeless people that do the same thing.

32:33

So keep things

32:35

taken care of on your property, don't

32:38

put situations that they

32:40

can either misread, misinterpret,

32:43

or situations that they

32:45

can take advantage of that can cause

32:47

that type of a situation. Touching

32:49

on what

32:49

you just said about leaving the

32:52

trash out. Are there any special precautions you'd

32:54

recommend for people to avoid

32:56

problems that might arise from putting their

32:58

trash out?

33:00

Not

33:00

really. I haven't had a lot of problems

33:02

with it. I've had the kids get into them a couple

33:04

of times, but I have more problems

33:06

with the wildlife. getting into my trash. So then I do anything

33:09

else? I mean, when I say leave the trash out,

33:11

like, if you're gonna put it out at night before the

33:13

trash man comes, that's not a big deal because you're gonna

33:15

put it out by your road. So

33:17

if

33:17

they're gonna get into it, it's out by

33:19

the road. But don't be setting it up by

33:21

your house and then get mad if they come and they look

33:24

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33:26

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33:27

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You're

34:48

you're gonna get gonna get like here,

34:49

especially in South Carolina, we have the

34:52

coyotes, we have a few

34:54

wolves, we don't have a lot, but

34:56

mostly your feral dogs, feral cats, they get into

34:58

the trash all the time. I mean, it's really

35:00

is bad here. Yeah. And

35:02

I think of the entire five years I've

35:04

been here, I've only seen one of them get in the

35:06

trash, and I think it was one of the kids. and

35:09

it was over a toy that I had thrown away that was one

35:11

of the

35:11

grandkids. That's all

35:13

I wanted. But if

35:15

you're

35:15

gonna put food out, And

35:17

occasionally, I do. I don't do

35:19

it

35:19

a lot. Some groups will take it.

35:22

Some groups won't. The one group

35:24

that I worked with in Michigan, there was nothing I

35:26

couldn't give that they wouldn't take.

35:28

The ones here

35:28

are iffy at best. You know, it

35:31

depends on the day. but

35:34

just don't do

35:35

it every single day. Don't make

35:37

it a pattern that they think they

35:39

expect. And certainly, don't put

35:41

it on porch or don't put it on your deck. Go and

35:43

put it back back of the property so they're

35:46

not right up on

35:47

top of you. Now,

35:49

in my particular case, because I

35:51

have so many feral cats here, I

35:53

have a large bowl of cat food

35:55

that is on my porch because I'll fear

35:57

of cats, the ones that I haven't already captured and try to find

35:59

hopes

35:59

for. I have a

36:01

few that we know

36:04

now well enough where they'll come up on the

36:06

porch. And so for

36:08

them, I have big

36:09

bowl of food that

36:10

sits on the porch because the possums come and get it the raccoons and

36:13

everything else. So I put it on

36:15

the porch and we've had Turkey,

36:18

he's one of the younger, one of the

36:20

SaaS quats that are here. He's probably

36:23

he's got he's got to

36:25

be now, I wanna

36:26

say, six or seven. And he was

36:28

just

36:28

a baby baby when we moved in, and

36:30

he'll come up on the porch. She's comfortable

36:32

enough with us where my

36:35

front door has a glass panel on

36:37

either side. And every now and then if we're

36:39

sitting inside, we'll look over and we'll see his big

36:41

black head leaned over the cat food ball and

36:44

he'll take the cat food.

36:45

But if you don't wanna worry about

36:47

anything like that, go put it out away from

36:49

the house. It doesn't have to be right up next

36:52

to it. The other thing I tell people is when they're slapping the side of the

36:54

house, they want you to know

36:56

they're there. And I did speak to a woman

36:58

years ago that

37:00

it absolutely terrified her because they kept hitting the

37:02

house. And she's like, I just get this feeling they

37:04

want me out there with them.

37:07

just because you get the feeling that they want you out there

37:09

with them doesn't mean you have

37:11

to go. And I

37:13

don't recommend that you do. Now

37:15

when I did it, Again,

37:17

this was years ago. I didn't have

37:20

anybody for guidance. I didn't know

37:22

anybody in the big

37:24

foot field. you know, I've been around him since I was a toddler. This was just my

37:26

normal. And I

37:28

went out

37:29

there. Okay?

37:31

I was group I was with was very

37:33

peaceful, very

37:33

kind. I'd sit out in the woods with him and

37:35

walk around me. Everything

37:38

was fine. they're

37:40

not

37:40

all like that. And it's not a

37:41

safe thing to do. I was

37:44

lucky. I didn't get hurt.

37:45

So when they're pounding on the house,

37:47

a lot of times, It's

37:50

just

37:50

for a few different reasons. They

37:52

want you to know they're there. That is the main primary

37:54

goal. They are there. It doesn't

37:56

mean you have to do anything.

37:59

It doesn't

37:59

mean you have to reciprocate.

38:02

They're just letting you know they're

38:04

there. You know,

38:04

you don't have to go out like I

38:06

did in the middle of the night. and my victim

38:09

was at two o'clock in the morning and set out in the woods with him.

38:11

I was stupid.

38:12

I was blessed

38:13

that they group I

38:15

was interacting with was as kind and wonderful as

38:18

they were. But it could have

38:19

just as easily gone the

38:21

other way. So when you

38:23

have

38:23

them slapping the house like that. That doesn't mean

38:25

they're trying to tear the house down around

38:28

you. You know, it doesn't mean any of those things.

38:30

It just means they're letting you know

38:32

they're there. Pat

38:32

and I were laying in bed one morning, and it was actually of his days off.

38:35

And we weren't as tired. We hadn't had

38:37

a storm the night before. and

38:40

it was sunny that morning. And we were laying there watching a movie thinking about

38:43

going back to sleep, and they just started

38:45

pounding on the wall behind our bed.

38:47

I mean, just pounding And

38:50

I thought, what in the world was going on? Mhmm. And it just didn't stop.

38:53

So finally, I said to Paris, we gotta go

38:55

find out what's going on. So

38:57

we went outside. and think

39:00

heavens they did what they did because what

39:02

we found when we got outside was a tree

39:04

limb, had

39:04

come down off our big trained the

39:06

front yard and then landed on the electrical pole, which was

39:09

putting sparks out onto the

39:11

ground and starting fires. I

39:14

mean, had

39:14

we not responded and and checked what

39:17

they were doing? We could have all

39:19

been burned. I mean, I'm in the

39:21

middle of the woods. It could

39:23

have set the whole woods on fire. So they do

39:25

things to help. Their culture, they're

39:26

not supposed to

39:27

interfere with our world,

39:29

and we're not most interfere with

39:31

theirs. But a lot really kind hearted ones will,

39:34

and they will try to help. So

39:35

I guess,

39:38

my advice would be to people that when you do have contact or

39:40

there is something going on, don't always

39:43

assume it's negatively. because

39:45

it's not always meant that

39:48

way. Kinda look at the bigger

39:50

picture and and see outside of the

39:52

little box. And say, okay,

39:54

what's going on around me that might cause

39:56

this? Because a lot of times, they are trying to

39:58

help. They don't get nearly enough

39:59

credit for all the good things

40:02

they do.

40:03

Absolutely. There's been

40:05

countless times that they

40:07

have

40:08

well, they say my life six times.

40:10

And

40:10

I'm a lot of work for them. And

40:12

they've

40:12

saved pets twice. They

40:15

have

40:15

countless people on record

40:18

that somebody's

40:20

gotten lost.

40:20

got lost and

40:22

they've been let out

40:23

of the woods or they've

40:25

been

40:25

found. There was a woman not too long ago, and

40:28

I don't even remember what state it

40:30

was in. This was a few

40:32

months ago where it was the missing

40:34

hiker she had gotten lost and

40:36

turned around, and she still claims to this day

40:38

that a SaaS watch is what let her out of

40:40

the woods. I mean, I've been out in the woods

40:42

before and they have

40:44

warned me of something

40:46

out there that could

40:47

be potentially dangerous

40:48

to me.

40:50

they

40:50

wanted me to go back. So I did. And the one time I was out in

40:52

my yard, I was walking towards the end of my driveway.

40:55

I looked on a private drive out in

40:57

the middle of the woods. and

40:59

I was walking out towards the

41:02

drive. And they said, go back in the house.

41:04

And I said, why? And I was told, you

41:06

know, they were

41:08

very adamant It's not safe. What is out

41:10

here now will hurt you. And I

41:12

went back in the house and they were out there and

41:14

you could see them. I don't I never

41:16

did find out what it was that they were

41:18

so concerned with, but they were throwing

41:20

rocks at it from the tree line. They were all

41:22

standing. I could see them. They're all on the

41:24

tree drawing rocks across the yard at whatever was on the other

41:26

side of that tradeline.

41:28

I mean, there's more

41:29

good ones than bad

41:32

ones. And I think ninety percent of the issues

41:34

come down to misinterpretation,

41:36

you know, when they

41:38

throw

41:38

these rocks at people. People

41:41

are like, oh, no. They attack me

41:43

with rocks.

41:43

First thing I always say is what size is the

41:46

rock. If you're talking about little acorn

41:48

sized rocks, that's just to let you know

41:50

they're there. but to keep them at a safe distance, so you're not gonna turn around,

41:52

try to harm them. But they want you

41:54

to know either

41:54

there. It's a way of making contact. You know,

41:56

then you get the

41:57

medium sized rocks

42:00

where

42:00

that's simply a warning saying, you know what, you shouldn't

42:02

be here, you need to turn away, go

42:04

back the way you

42:05

came, quit going forward because this is not

42:07

where you need to

42:10

be. That

42:10

could be because you're too close to their children. They're hunting.

42:12

They're gathering together for something,

42:14

or it could be that there's something there

42:16

that could physically hurt you. And

42:20

then you get the bigger ones

42:22

where now you've crossed that line and you've

42:24

ignored all the other warnings and they're

42:26

angry and they want you out of there and you're going to

42:28

go out of there. So, you know,

42:30

depending on the size of the rack is really

42:32

the intent behind it. Yeah.

42:34

When they

42:34

wanna get a point across, it sure does seem

42:37

like they're awfully good at doing that.

42:39

Here's a question I wanted to ask

42:41

you for a long time now, Robin. Do

42:43

they seem to see it as an

42:45

invasion of their privacy? you go into the

42:47

woods around your property at night if they're around? It depends on

42:50

how far

42:50

back you go. I don't think

42:53

they mine people people in the woods,

42:55

but if you get close to where their actual living space is. And by that,

42:57

I don't mean these temporary little

42:59

tipies that everybody sees around.

43:01

That is not where they live. That's a

43:04

temporary thing. Just like when we go out in

43:06

the woods and you put a tent up. That's not your

43:08

permanent home. That's just a tent. if not any

43:10

different with them, they read your

43:11

intent. And if your

43:13

intent is pure and you're kind

43:16

hearted,

43:16

for the most part, they

43:18

really don't have an issue with you walking around in the woods. But if you're

43:20

out there trying to hunt them down, it's

43:22

not that they care that you look

43:24

for them. It's your intent in your

43:28

heart. it's how far are you gonna go and push it? I mean,

43:30

if you're gonna go back and and you're going

43:32

so far back where now

43:35

now you're a

43:36

danger to their family, then

43:38

it's a problem

43:38

for them. It really is, they've never bothered

43:41

me, like, where I live right

43:43

now, the The venomous snakes are just unbelievable. So

43:45

I don't go too far back. I

43:48

don't have to. They come to the house.

43:50

I mean, when I was in

43:52

Michigan and when I went back in

43:54

June, I was

43:54

told me that documentary and I was visiting

43:56

family, and I was in

43:58

Michigan for about three weeks. And I

43:59

was walking around in the woods all day.

44:02

I

44:02

love it. You know, it feeds my soul.

44:06

but I also knew how far to push it. You

44:08

wanna enjoy the woods, you wanna share that

44:10

space with them, but you don't wanna

44:14

be intrusive. if they're walking around in your yard like they do

44:16

hear, Pat and I don't care. They're not

44:18

hurting anything. They're living

44:20

their lives. But

44:22

if they were to kick my and in living room,

44:24

while my family's there, my children,

44:26

or my grandchildren, that's a whole different ballgame.

44:29

Now I'm mad.

44:30

i'm mad and

44:32

that's kind of the same level that they are.

44:34

If you wanna go out in those woods and

44:36

you wanna spend time out there and experience

44:38

nature and have love in your heart,

44:41

and be peaceful and non

44:44

intrusive, you're

44:44

welcome. But

44:46

at the same time,

44:48

if

44:48

you get to that point where you're pushing it

44:50

and they are in an area where

44:53

their children are, they're gonna give you subtle

44:55

signs. The first thing you're gonna

44:58

feel is where

44:58

they can project that

44:59

emotion onto you so that you

45:02

are gonna feel fearful. That doesn't mean they're

45:04

gonna attack you. That's a a tactic

45:06

that they

45:08

use to try to get you to say, okay, this is an area

45:10

I really shouldn't be in in leave. And they

45:12

normally will try to do it in the

45:15

comments manner possible and give

45:17

you subtle signs.

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46:51

fine with sharing space. But again, like

46:53

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46:54

space fine. But here

46:57

at

46:57

my property, but that

46:59

doesn't mean I want anybody kicking all

47:01

my door. I mean, we've

47:04

had them get in the house before they have not

47:06

damaged my home. In any way, we just found

47:08

the money prints and, you know, they got in the pantry and had some

47:10

stuff pulled out of the pantry.

47:12

But we were

47:13

not home. you know, I

47:15

mean,

47:15

it's just an assumption that that's what it was, but I

47:18

don't know what else would leave the money footprints and the giant

47:20

money handprints all over

47:22

the voice. But if we were

47:23

sitting at home with our children or our grandchildren, and

47:25

that happened, that changes

47:27

everything. Now you're an

47:29

intruder. Now you're intrusive. and

47:32

you've gotten too close. So it just comes down to

47:35

being respectful. Don't push

47:37

it too far. Go

47:38

out there, enjoy yourself.

47:40

have peace

47:41

and love in your heart because they can read your intent. And as long as

47:43

that's what you're doing, then they're

47:45

okay with it. You

47:48

know, I don't necessarily know that I would

47:51

be as terrified as

47:52

per se I mean,

47:53

not that these things don't scare me at times.

47:55

I'm not stupid.

47:58

I've been right before. I don't like it when I'm out in the woods in

47:59

the middle of the night, and I can't see what's coming up

48:02

behind me. And I've had them

48:04

literally come up and put their hand on

48:06

my shoulder. in the

48:08

dark.

48:08

And they never did anything to me.

48:10

They never hurt me in any way, shape or form.

48:12

Never even tried to. It wouldn't have

48:14

mattered if it was my And if it's in the dark and I can't

48:16

see it, I'm automatically frightened. I don't mind

48:19

being out in the dark, but just don't I

48:21

don't like things coming up on top of me

48:23

in the dark. But I've

48:25

been out in the woods with

48:27

before, and I've

48:29

been fine. When I used to go out and sit

48:31

in the woods at night and they would walk around

48:33

me where I could see them

48:35

in the moonlight didn't bother me. But I mean, when

48:37

I can get frank just like everybody

48:38

else, if I was sitting in my

48:40

living room and then all of a sudden,

48:44

one of these things came pulled into the door. Of course,

48:46

you're gonna be frightened.

48:48

Absolutely. You

48:49

know, you're human, you're

48:51

you have emotions.

48:54

just, like, if you

48:54

were to go out in the woods in the middle of the night and you walked up on

48:56

my exam and they had their children there, are you

48:59

walked into their area that was

49:01

a private parking area? You're

49:03

gonna

49:03

scare them. You're gonna starve them, and that's why they would

49:05

get aggressive. Yeah. There is something

49:07

awfully creepy about having something come up

49:10

behind you in the dark. No. I

49:12

get it. If you

49:14

think SaaS watch are hanging around, do you

49:16

think it's a good idea to do things to

49:18

encourage interactions with them? Or do

49:20

you think it's best not to

49:22

encourage interaction with SASKWAD, you don't

49:24

know? I think that if

49:25

you want to encourage interactions,

49:28

it's not that you shouldn't.

49:31

It's

49:32

just go slow.

49:34

We encourage

49:34

your interactions all the time,

49:37

but

49:37

what I would recommend

49:39

for people wanting to do that is

49:41

just because you can doesn't mean you

49:42

should. And

49:44

be careful how you go

49:46

about it because you don't

49:49

want to encourage something that you're gonna

49:52

later regret. Like

49:54

here at our home, we're so used

49:56

to it. And there's thousands and thousands of

49:58

people that have it like we do here.

49:59

We're not the only ones by any means. We're not

50:02

special. It's just this is our

50:04

lives. And we

50:06

encourage it but

50:07

there's a limit. You know, you have

50:09

to make sure you know your

50:12

boundaries. If

50:12

you don't want them at your home, don't

50:14

start trying to do things with them at

50:16

your home. find an area that

50:18

you are comfortable with and go to that

50:20

area. And they will follow you home. I'm not

50:22

gonna say they're not. I

50:23

mean, some of them will, some of them

50:26

won't. But my point is if

50:28

you're gonna gift them, whether your feathers or toys or

50:30

white rocks, they love the white rocks, that's an active

50:34

friendship. If you

50:35

don't want them at your home, don't start it

50:37

there.

50:37

If they wander over and they followed your

50:39

home, that's a little bit different because now

50:41

they followed you

50:44

home. But

50:44

think it through before you start these exchanges.

50:48

Because if they

50:49

like you or even

50:51

if they don't like you,

50:54

sometimes you can have a casual with them. But more

50:57

than not, they become attached

50:59

and you become

51:01

a friend. But

51:03

And the same thing

51:06

is if you're out there trying to hurt

51:08

them and they pick up that you're trying

51:10

to hurt them, there is no place on heaven earth

51:12

so you can hide. They

51:14

believe an

51:14

eye for an eye, and their

51:16

form

51:16

of justice is a lot different

51:18

than ours. You don't wanna you

51:20

don't want to go there you

51:22

just don't wanna do it. And, I mean, they're

51:24

protecting your culture, their way of life, their

51:26

people just like we are, we have the

51:28

military. in

51:30

their

51:30

world where they don't have the military, they have warriors

51:32

that are gonna protect the client as well. And

51:34

really, it's not fair for us

51:37

to expect anything less.

51:39

So

51:40

my point being is they're

51:42

going to

51:43

protect themselves. If it comes

51:45

down

51:45

to them or us, they will protect their people

51:47

just like will protect our people. It's

51:50

just the way it is. You know, you're

51:52

gonna preserve yourself before you're gonna preserve

51:55

anybody else. So an

51:57

answer to your question as far as inviting

51:59

contact, inviting contact is

51:59

okay, but think it through

52:02

before you do because once you

52:04

get that contact, it

52:06

changes your life. It's not the same

52:08

as it was before. You don't

52:10

get this, you know, oh, it happened one day and

52:12

it was fun and all

52:14

stopped now. because

52:14

it just doesn't work that way. Now you've had contacts with them. That's

52:16

something that you can't change. You can't

52:20

undo. and

52:21

it does follow you. You know, I'm not gonna

52:23

say that people don't have a one time

52:25

encounter accidentally or see something in the

52:28

woods and then that it goes with

52:30

the rest of their life. If there's a difference in an

52:32

accidental encounter and seeking

52:34

one out. And if

52:35

you're seeking out

52:38

that encounter, then to them,

52:38

that means you want contact. So

52:40

you have to just

52:42

be very careful. Think it through before

52:44

you do it. My introduction that I have,

52:47

I've been very, very blessed. I

52:49

really

52:49

even the good

52:50

and the bad, I wouldn't trade one

52:53

single second or day

52:55

of it. But my life

52:56

is not

52:57

like a lot of people's lives, you know,

52:59

and sometimes you can't go

53:02

back. So,

53:04

I mean, Yeah. I don't know any difference. So this is my normal,

53:06

but, you know, a lot of people I have

53:07

a very dear friend.

53:09

And she had no

53:10

idea she had them at her house. None.

53:13

to her house

53:14

one day, and she has a Benson backyard,

53:16

and the dogs were playing the backyard.

53:18

And I saw these gigantic footprints.

53:21

And I said to her, I said, Geraldine, my goodness. You know,

53:23

look at these footprints here, and she said, you

53:26

know, I see those now and then. So I can't

53:28

imagine who's been out in

53:30

my backyard. she said, that just really bothers me. And I said, have you looked at

53:32

the size of those people? Like, it's not one of

53:34

our people. And, you know, I we

53:36

talked

53:36

about it and everything, and she became more aware

53:40

of it. And

53:40

now she's got great interaction going on,

53:42

and she loves it, but there are times

53:44

it can frighten her. her

53:47

husband passed away four years ago. She

53:49

lives alone. And

53:51

so there are times that it can

53:53

be frightening, but there's also of times that

53:55

it's been joyous where she's looked out the window and had the little kids putting

53:57

their faces up against the window, you

53:59

know, and she's seen

54:02

them. And she

54:03

was viciously

54:03

attacked

54:05

by two

54:06

dogs

54:07

one day, and they

54:10

actually are the reason she's so

54:12

alive. They saved her when she

54:14

was grateful for that, but it changes your life.

54:16

So it's like be careful what you asked for.

54:18

Be careful

54:18

what you start because, yeah, like you said, it might not be all

54:21

that easy to stop. Bouncing back

54:23

to what you said about conducting

54:26

yourself in and around the woods. Even

54:28

if you have a good mindset, do you

54:30

recommend asking permission to enter the woods

54:32

before doing so when you know

54:36

they're around? I know a lot of

54:36

people that do that and it does very

54:39

well for them. Again, every

54:41

one of them

54:42

and every clan is They're individualized.

54:44

No. Two are alike. You

54:46

know, it's always respectful, and that's what

54:49

it comes down to. when

54:51

I go in the woods, the first thing I do

54:53

is I announce that I'm there and I tell them,

54:55

you know, I'm here with love and kindness. I'm

54:57

not here to hurt anybody. I

54:59

asked that you show nothing

55:01

but kindness to me. I wish

55:03

you no

55:03

harm. I wish none of

55:05

your people harm. I

55:07

make my intentions clear. And while they can read

55:09

your intention, what's really nice is when

55:11

they read your intention

55:15

and

55:15

then you verbalize your

55:18

intention,

55:18

that really is helpful because

55:21

people

55:21

try to fake it,

55:23

lie about it, whatever. and they don't

55:25

realize they can read your intent. So if you're going in there

55:27

with a nil intention, but you're saying, oh, no,

55:29

I'm here to be

55:32

your buddy. You know, I wanna shake your hand, whatever, but your intention is to

55:34

harm them. They know.

55:36

And all that does

55:37

is it's saying you're saying one thing,

55:39

but your intent is showing another,

55:42

and it's a conflicting

55:42

feeling that they're getting,

55:44

and it's automatic distrust.

55:46

And once they just trust you, there's

55:47

no getting it

55:50

back. it

55:50

it just doesn't work. So it's really beneficial.

55:52

Go in there and say, you know, I asked that,

55:54

you know, you allow me to just walk through

55:58

your home I'm not here to hurt you talk to them.

55:59

I recommend that a

56:01

lot to people. I do that even when

56:03

I go in my

56:04

backyard. Like, if I went to go back by the

56:06

woods, I'll

56:08

say, hey, guys. I'm just out here doing this. I

56:10

don't ask permission to go on my backyard,

56:12

but I walk out. And I'll say, hey,

56:14

guys. You know, if anybody's out here, I'm

56:17

just came out here to do this. I've got

56:19

here to bother anybody. And not that

56:21

it won't ever happen, but I've

56:23

never gotten zapped. And I

56:25

always tell everybody, knock on wood my

56:27

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57:50

like

57:50

I was sharing with you, when I've

57:53

done some shows that

57:54

are at night, I've gone outside just because

57:58

it's quieter. And I'll come

57:59

out and while I'm

58:02

outside, I'll be like, okay, guys. I

58:04

just can't out here to talk

58:06

about you, to share with people about you, and

58:08

your people, and your culture, and to let them

58:10

know how wonderful you are.

58:12

And I tell them I tell them all

58:14

the time. They like

58:15

predictability. They like

58:18

consistency. If you

58:19

have a regular routine that

58:21

you do, that's all the

58:23

better for them. because

58:24

then they know what to expect. And if what

58:26

your intent is matches what

58:29

you're telling them, it speaks

58:31

volumes. It really

58:32

it really does does. I can

58:34

only imagine what it must be like having them around all

58:36

the time and interacting with them the

58:38

way you do. That's gotta be incredible.

58:41

Yeah.

58:42

The cats, I don't think, are always happy

58:44

about it. They've never hurt one of

58:46

the cats, but they'll lay on the window so

58:49

the cats will, while the windows are open, the screens

58:51

are down, and they lay on the

58:53

window cell, and they think

58:55

it's funny. They'll go and they'll sit the

58:57

SaaS box set under the windowsill, and then they'll take their

58:59

hand, and they'll put it up and they'll

59:01

snap the screen. And every

59:03

single time they

59:05

do it, it scares the tarnation out of the cans. And then you can hear

59:07

the SaaS box laughing. And it's like

59:09

they don't

59:10

hurt them. They know what they're

59:12

doing.

59:13

Well, a lot of people like to

59:15

scare cats. I guess why should they be

59:18

different?

59:18

They're pranksters. They are big

59:21

pranksters. They have a wicked sense of humor. It's like when they

59:23

do the belly

59:23

crawl. They'll do that belly

59:26

crawl

59:26

and it looks like Scooby

59:28

Doo you know,

59:29

when he's up on his fingers and his toes and he

59:31

hear that dink dink dink noise,

59:33

and they'll do that

59:35

through the grass. and they can sneak up on whether they're trying to

59:37

hunt or whether they're trying to watch us, watch them, or

59:40

whatever. They'll go on the accurate legs

59:42

right out from interview and then laugh because I think

59:44

it's funny.

59:46

Yeah.

59:46

It's funny unless you're the one who has their legs knocked out.

59:49

Yeah. Exactly.

59:50

Yeah. All these amazing things

59:51

they do

59:53

It really makes you wonder how to do half of these

59:56

things, but they're remarkable.

59:58

You stress the

59:59

importance

59:59

of setting boundaries

1:00:02

earlier, but Isn't there a risk

1:00:04

in angering them by trying to do

1:00:06

that? I think

1:00:06

there is, but at the same

1:00:09

time, I think the benefits outweigh the

1:00:11

risk can't too harsh in it and you can't

1:00:13

put unreasonable expectations, and

1:00:16

I think that's the key to it.

1:00:18

they don't understand property lines. They don't

1:00:21

understand

1:00:21

that we pay taxes on our property or

1:00:23

we purchase our property. It doesn't work that way

1:00:25

in their world.

1:00:27

So if you say, you can go in the

1:00:29

woods around, but you can't come on my land,

1:00:32

that's gonna make a mad because in

1:00:34

their eyes,

1:00:36

granted,

1:00:36

they have territories or whatever, but the earth

1:00:39

is

1:00:39

to be shared. And so they don't

1:00:41

understand that.

1:00:41

They really

1:00:44

don't. I think when you put down

1:00:47

your expectations, it's the

1:00:49

way you say it. It's

1:00:51

your intent. Again, it's how

1:00:54

things go that really is

1:00:55

gonna pull any weight with

1:00:58

them. I would never go

1:00:59

up to them and say,

1:01:01

I don't care to do outside, but the first one that comes through my door,

1:01:04

I'm gonna just flip out

1:01:06

on. That's not

1:01:07

kind. That's not loving. when

1:01:09

I've said it in quite honestly, I

1:01:11

don't care if they come in or out as long as

1:01:13

they're not hurt anybody. But, you know, the only

1:01:15

thing I've said is, when

1:01:17

my children or my grandchildren are here, that would frighten them.

1:01:19

So put it

1:01:19

so that they can see the

1:01:22

compassion there. that would frighten them.

1:01:24

If you come in the house when we're home, that

1:01:26

will frighten us. So we please ask

1:01:28

that you respect that this is our

1:01:30

space, and then turn it around on them

1:01:32

and say, we would never go home your

1:01:34

space. That's yours. We won't go there,

1:01:36

but we don't want

1:01:36

you to go there. So you wanted them to

1:01:39

understand. It's like when you

1:01:42

explain something to a child. And it's not that they're not intelligent

1:01:44

because they're more intelligent than we

1:01:46

are. It comes down

1:01:48

to them understanding

1:01:50

our culture and our ways in

1:01:52

what we mean. And so that's

1:01:54

why you wanna talk like that to them

1:01:56

so that there's no wiggle room

1:01:59

for misinterpretation

1:01:59

because we don't understand other

1:02:02

ways. We just don't. We

1:02:03

try we learn

1:02:05

from it. Hopefully, But at the

1:02:08

same time, we're never gonna understand

1:02:10

everything they do or why they do

1:02:12

it. And they're not going

1:02:14

to I don't wanna wake up in the morning and see one walk

1:02:16

into my living room. That's not gonna be the

1:02:18

highlight of my day because you don't know which

1:02:20

one is

1:02:20

it gonna be a nice one, isn't that? And you don't

1:02:23

want anybody into your space. I don't care who it is. I don't wanna see my next

1:02:25

door neighbor, my living room, when I wake

1:02:27

up either. So you

1:02:28

just wanna put it

1:02:31

in a manner that

1:02:32

is calm and loving, but that

1:02:34

I would not do this

1:02:36

to you. Therefore, I don't want you to do this

1:02:39

to me. so

1:02:40

they can see that it's a mutual benefit. It's not just all

1:02:43

about you. It's not just all about them.

1:02:45

So it's in your wording. It's in how

1:02:47

you put it to them.

1:02:50

you

1:02:50

know, like, when I got mad about the ones on the roof, I

1:02:52

finally went out there and just I mean,

1:02:54

I did. I used them. I was a ridiculous

1:02:57

Like, I never thought it would've worked, and I don't think it would ever work

1:02:59

again if I tried. I went out there

1:03:02

stomping my feet looking like a

1:03:04

village idiot. and said, you're

1:03:06

gonna get off my roofer. I'm gonna snappier,

1:03:08

Harry, but I'm a

1:03:10

driver. He used the mom voice and I could hear some of

1:03:12

the adults

1:03:14

laughing, you

1:03:14

know. But we had gone several

1:03:16

times. So

1:03:17

I went outside and I said, I know you

1:03:19

the parents are out here,

1:03:22

you know, like, you need to keep them off the roof. And most of them did

1:03:24

quit, but then we had a couple that kept

1:03:26

pushing it, and I think they finally get in trouble.

1:03:28

because, you know, the parents try to keep a

1:03:30

tight rein

1:03:32

on them. they actually do. That's

1:03:33

like the ones with the garage. I

1:03:34

know as bad as it's now

1:03:36

gonna be super expensive to fix

1:03:38

the store because it's a mess but

1:03:41

they didn't do it to hurt anything. They wanted

1:03:43

to see the animals, and I know that's what

1:03:46

they wanted because once they got

1:03:48

in, there was this big mud light. Like, they were their

1:03:50

belly coming through the bottom panel, and then

1:03:52

there was muddy footprints all over the garage. And

1:03:54

the animals are running around,

1:03:58

and they

1:03:58

had a good time,

1:03:59

and I had an actual security camera in the garage

1:04:02

because it wasn't like this was the

1:04:04

first offense. and

1:04:06

the security camera, of course, was not

1:04:08

working at all. So

1:04:10

that didn't help me,

1:04:11

you know, to prove what

1:04:13

it was. But

1:04:15

again, it's dealing with bam bam rubble. These kids don't

1:04:18

understand the strength that they

1:04:20

possess. And the night that I did

1:04:22

that show

1:04:24

for Dave Scott. I was sitting down the porch, and it was so funny because

1:04:26

they kept doing this rhythmic.

1:04:28

One nap, wait five

1:04:30

seconds. One nap, wait five seconds.

1:04:34

And Dave had taken he takes a break every thirty

1:04:36

minutes so that you can use the restroom, get

1:04:38

a drink, or whatever. And he had taken a

1:04:40

break. So he wasn't even on air, and I was

1:04:43

just sitting there And I kept hearing this. It sounded like

1:04:45

them hitting the bottom of a metal

1:04:48

pan. And I thought, where in the world did

1:04:50

they get a metal pan? Like, there's nothing in

1:04:52

that brush

1:04:54

that has any metal in it, but it was very consistent

1:04:56

and it was to the letter. It

1:04:58

was one knock on it,

1:05:01

and then five second wait, one night, and it

1:05:03

did, like, eight times. So I reached over to

1:05:05

the wooden bannister on my porch, and I

1:05:07

knocked three times very quickly. And as

1:05:09

soon as I did, they repeated that tree

1:05:11

knocked back. And I thought, well, that tells

1:05:13

me that it's actually something with the

1:05:15

thought process because it

1:05:18

was

1:05:18

doing that one pattern for so long. And as soon

1:05:20

as I did that, it did it back. And then it went back

1:05:22

to the pattern of one not wait five seconds.

1:05:24

One not wait five seconds. So

1:05:26

then I did it again only with ForNax

1:05:28

and I answered back with ForNax, which

1:05:30

really

1:05:30

shows intelligence.

1:05:32

A

1:05:33

lot of intelligence That's the

1:05:35

thing with him. Seems like we have so much more intelligence than they

1:05:37

ever get credit for. Yeah. They don't.

1:05:39

They are a

1:05:40

higher level of intelligence than we are, but

1:05:43

it's a different kind of intelligence. I mean,

1:05:45

it's a different culture. And I think we're

1:05:48

programmed for

1:05:50

for our

1:05:51

culture and our intelligence

1:05:54

is based on that and what works in our

1:05:56

world where

1:05:58

there's is a

1:05:59

different

1:05:59

culture. But, you know, we're we're

1:06:02

more into electronics. The thing is

1:06:04

that these guys with

1:06:06

electronics, they're unbelievable. if they wanna mess with

1:06:08

an electronic, it it's game

1:06:10

on. But they are. They're

1:06:12

problem solving and they're figuring

1:06:14

things out it's astronomical. And they don't get the credit

1:06:16

for the good stuff that they do, and they don't

1:06:18

get the credit for

1:06:20

the intelligence

1:06:21

that they have,

1:06:23

the only thing you ever hear about is the aggression. But I

1:06:26

do wanna point out that with our

1:06:28

people,

1:06:29

realistically, We have

1:06:31

murders, rapists, pedophiles,

1:06:34

psychopaths, drug addicts.

1:06:36

We have, I think,

1:06:38

more aggressive people in our society

1:06:40

than they do. I would be more comfortable

1:06:42

out in the woods with a

1:06:43

hundred SaaS bucks than I would a hundred people of ours that

1:06:45

I don't

1:06:48

know. I

1:06:48

mean, our people where I

1:06:50

will say that I met some of the most wonderful

1:06:52

people in the field of research that

1:06:55

I could ever hope to me, like, just

1:06:57

wonderful wonderful people. You're one of them.

1:06:59

I absolutely adore you. But at the

1:07:02

same time, the hate that it's thrown

1:07:04

through here and cruelty

1:07:06

to each other, in it,

1:07:07

instead of a lot of people that are doing it. It's just

1:07:10

the ones that are are at a level

1:07:12

that I can't comprehend. Like, I

1:07:14

just don't get that. But then if you look

1:07:16

out in our world today,

1:07:18

at

1:07:18

the level of

1:07:19

hate, everybody's

1:07:21

out for themselves. calls. And

1:07:23

the one thing that the SaaS watch teaches is you work

1:07:25

as a collective, you're stronger together. I mean,

1:07:27

that is

1:07:28

their main message.

1:07:31

you

1:07:31

know, you work as a collective under the law

1:07:33

of one, and we just

1:07:35

don't get that. And look, what's

1:07:37

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1:09:17

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1:09:19

that have puzzles? Oh,

1:09:22

you know what?

1:09:24

And I could be entirely wrong on

1:09:26

this because genetically, I've never had the genetics

1:09:28

on it tested. to me, I have the

1:09:30

1II had experience, so she was a sweetheart. Her name was Trudi. I called her Trudi.

1:09:33

Very,

1:09:34

very sweet girl.

1:09:36

and she actually lived with

1:09:38

one of the clans that I was working with. And she was

1:09:42

wonderful. But to me,

1:09:45

the me they look

1:09:46

like and this is just my own

1:09:48

opinion. I have nothing to base this on, guys.

1:09:50

They look to

1:09:51

me like a big dog

1:09:53

been cross. And I've

1:09:54

seen the dog man that

1:09:56

run with

1:09:57

the bigfoots. And, genetically, it's possible

1:09:59

for

1:09:59

that to

1:09:59

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1:10:03

that's

1:10:03

what my take on that was.

1:10:05

But then you also have the

1:10:08

Gugwe. And the

1:10:10

Gugwe look

1:10:11

and these things I'm being honest, these

1:10:13

things are killers. That's all they

1:10:15

are. There's not one

1:10:16

of them that's kind that I have ever

1:10:18

heard of, you know, and the ones that are

1:10:20

I think the other ones

1:10:22

probably kill them. But they have what looks like a baboon face. And

1:10:28

they literally they wanna kill

1:10:30

the SaaS watch, they wanna kill that's all they do is kill. But the ones

1:10:32

that I think you're referring

1:10:33

to, they they I'd

1:10:36

say they'll like

1:10:38

a Teddy bear face.

1:10:40

And when I

1:10:42

met her, she was

1:10:45

with the clan that had the dogmen and the

1:10:47

SaaS watch in it. Now there's a lot of areas that you can go they won't mingle

1:10:52

together, but I

1:10:54

know

1:10:54

a ton of people who have dogmen and sasquatch sharing land together sharing space

1:10:56

together and not have a problem. They

1:10:58

hear it here

1:10:59

at my house I

1:11:03

don't think that

1:11:03

I ever see them out there holding hands, like, throughout on date night,

1:11:05

but, I mean, they're walking around the yard

1:11:08

at the same time

1:11:10

or sharing the same woods

1:11:12

or one might be in the backyard and

1:11:14

another one might be in the front yard. There's no fighting

1:11:15

between them. But the one that I

1:11:17

saw, in

1:11:18

fact, I had a photo of

1:11:20

her. she looks like she

1:11:22

has a muzzle in smaller ears, not

1:11:23

like a dog man ears, but almost like a bear would have. And

1:11:25

then he had

1:11:28

a

1:11:28

tail. Now

1:11:31

I know that there's others that people have seen that

1:11:33

don't have the tail. The Guggies

1:11:35

have, like, literally, it

1:11:37

looks just like a dead bone. phase, and

1:11:39

they don't

1:11:39

have a tail, and they're very dangerous. And I

1:11:41

think possibly that, you know, that

1:11:43

could be what a lot

1:11:45

of people are thinking are

1:11:47

are that with the to the snow

1:11:50

down him.

1:11:50

That's exactly what I was talking

1:11:52

about. I hope you haven't

1:11:54

had many experiences with him.

1:11:57

I have

1:11:57

not had them here at my home. I've had a few

1:11:59

experiences with them because other

1:12:00

people have had them there, and

1:12:02

I've kinda helped out that way. But

1:12:07

Anybody sees one of these things, do not even try to

1:12:09

have contact with it, and you

1:12:10

need to get out as fast

1:12:13

as you can. they're

1:12:14

so highly dangerous, Guggies will

1:12:16

kill anything moving, and

1:12:18

they have no remorse. And

1:12:20

they definitely try to kill the SaaS

1:12:22

watch as much as they can. He wouldn't

1:12:24

have

1:12:24

to tell me twice. But having said that,

1:12:26

I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing all

1:12:28

this great advice with us,

1:12:30

Robin. I really appreciate it. Oh,

1:12:34

you're

1:12:34

so welcome, Deck. And I for always we

1:12:37

appreciate

1:12:39

you coming back.

1:12:41

You're always welcome. And like I said, thanks again so much for your

1:12:43

time. Yeah. No problem. You take care. You too.

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great night.

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