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1:33

I've got Mark on the phone. He's

1:35

going to tell us about what he has experienced

1:37

out in his neck of the woods. How's

1:39

it going, Mark? Back

1:42

to Ben. Well, as

1:45

usual, lots of kids in the house and bugs flying

1:47

around, but well, is that the work?

1:52

But I mean, anyways, that's her

1:56

stuff I've experienced. I

1:59

don't know. I'm going to

2:01

believe I had a system in the

2:03

70s when people were still talking about Patty

2:05

at the drop of a hat. When

2:10

I was running through some buddies in the woods back in the...

2:13

I was trying to see if she had missed it. I

2:15

thought, for sure, I saw these good-sized prints,

2:17

but everybody blew them off a bear. I

2:20

didn't think they looked like bear tracks, but I was

2:23

probably 11. So whether

2:25

I know back then or once, years and

2:27

years later, when

2:29

I came, I'd been in the family

2:32

down here in East Tennessee. Everybody has this misconception

2:34

that they still see it all the time, that

2:37

you have

2:39

interactions. I was in uniform

2:41

for a very long time. I've been

2:43

in some interesting places.

2:46

I know when people are watching

2:49

me or when I'm being observed. So

2:53

I'm all on the front yard in this house. I was under...

2:56

...where I was wearing. I'd been empty for a couple

2:58

years. When

3:00

my grandkids were out ripping a

3:02

carrot into the front yard, they

3:04

were on top of my

3:06

wife and daughter sitting on the porch. On

3:08

the front porch, I just caught

3:11

something out of my eye. I

3:14

turned to look at the wood line, which is, hey,

3:17

125 meters away. It

3:21

was a strange black shape.

3:25

I was too far to see his face running. After

3:28

going out there later, I figured he was probably 8 or

3:30

9 feet tall anyway. Shoulders

3:33

were probably 4.5, 5

3:35

foot wide, knowing this guy was big. I

3:38

hope you don't mind the language, but of course,

3:41

I go... The white

3:43

guys know what I'm looking at. I turn

3:45

to look at him and I say, what the F is

3:47

that? And he must

3:49

have here in the desert since he must have known that I

3:51

had seen him. As

3:54

he turned to his left, my right,

3:58

and... I was going to spread

4:00

off into the thicker underbrush. I

4:03

could see he had long hair on

4:05

his back because I could actually see it all

4:09

behind him. Of

4:11

course, I'm like, what the? Was

4:14

the lights on? I always thought I'm a

4:16

little nuts from my old young.

4:19

She didn't quite know what the ability

4:21

of me was at, but I

4:24

went out there the next day. I

4:26

didn't want to go out there quite right afterwards.

4:30

I went out

4:34

there the next day and you could see on the

4:37

outside of the arch of this today, this is

4:39

where our horse pasture. There's

4:44

something that beat a

4:47

heavily used trail down to

4:49

that spot. I

4:53

could see brute when he took

4:55

off. I could see broken branches and stuff. Early

5:01

he plowed

5:04

through on his way away from there. That

5:06

let me know that we're

5:11

not alone around here. I talked

5:13

to a couple of the neighbors and one guy, his family has

5:15

been here for generations. According to

5:17

what he said, I can't share a key.

5:21

He knows a lot of the stories around here. Just

5:23

like some places, everybody thinks of your stories. While

5:26

some people around here,

5:28

they just treat him as the folks

5:31

that live out in the woods. I've

5:33

always done research this time. These

5:37

guys are quite a bit kicking up hot air

5:39

after that, especially for the

5:41

locals and whatnot. I want

5:44

to know what I'm seeing around here. That

5:47

was the first time we got

5:49

in a above ground pool that we're putting up all that.

5:52

This was some months later. I

5:56

get that itch again. I'm looking out through the woods. This

6:00

guy, he was right here, so it wasn't the same

6:03

one. And it looked like he was smaller,

6:06

but they were doing that peaking from behind the

6:08

tree thing. I didn't get ants here in this

6:10

town. I just saw a tree in my house. My neighbor, hey, how you doing?

6:12

I'll see you back there. They're

6:17

like, I'm not sure what they're doing. They're like, I'm not sure what they're doing. They're like,

6:19

I'm not sure what they're doing. They're like, I'm not sure what they're

6:21

doing. They're like, I'm not sure what they're doing.

6:27

I have a special needs. She

6:36

said to a G-tube. And so I'm sitting

6:39

up her name feeding. And

6:42

this time I'm just looking out the back

6:44

window. Back

6:46

in same area.

6:48

And at first I

6:50

thought, because we just had a big storm come through

6:53

here not too long before

6:57

that. I'm thinking, okay, that's just a tree stump, right? And

7:01

what everybody says, I'll put it like on

7:03

thumb squashes. But

7:06

at first I'm looking, yeah, it's just a big old tree stump.

7:09

I get hit by lightning because it

7:11

was cut off. And

7:14

then it starts swaying back and forth. I'm

7:17

like, look at that foster kid. So I take the two boys,

7:20

bring them in there. The boys

7:23

are 16 or 13 then. And I said,

7:26

look right out there. And what do you see? He

7:29

says, what? I said, look,

7:31

that looks like a tree stand in there. And

7:34

then they go, look at them. They're

7:37

like, holy crap, it's moving. And yep, they're

7:40

walking us again. So there was

7:42

three. Just recently, just a couple

7:44

months ago, we shouldn't

7:47

call it as a sighting, but the horses

7:49

were fine. I've got a bunch of

7:51

big dogs and they were going just crazy out back.

7:56

So around here, this

7:59

Area has a... Rodgers.

8:01

For years and I was. Like.

8:03

A lot of other areas. Summer.

8:06

These. Mobile. Phones are

8:08

those are there. were made pharmaceuticals. Phone.

8:12

I'm sure there is no other. Games.

8:15

Or remodeled his horse boy. Swallowed.

8:21

Another. Forty Five. Minutes.

8:25

Or to take a look. For.

8:28

Your budget in the. Ocean. Your

8:30

find! The

8:33

over budget was is closer to choose. Road.

8:36

Or it's. Because

8:38

there's this. Huge. Shadow

8:40

said no. One.

8:43

I know I'm. Not

8:46

scared is rather than much anymore. I'd

8:50

like I'm just one conversation. They.

8:52

Are you know under your. Just.

8:56

Opposition things are okay. That's it. Was

8:58

February. The.

9:01

Memory notice. That. Associated I

9:03

charge or know he's everyone's. Manager

9:06

Tissue serving a life. I

9:10

wish you something. To.

9:13

The Movement or Rights. Issue more

9:15

sorts of are showing a tutor for her. it's. Okay,

9:20

Maybe. Have a true to or less than

9:23

some organ share our size. Seventy.

9:25

Five Meter Jonah Hill. And

9:27

between he says as. Separate. Use

9:29

it for had some I were pressured and. I

9:32

know sure the trees are my. There. Was a

9:35

grand. Jury the house. Or

9:38

you could see where the. There's. No laden down

9:40

spots where the base the true that I. Can.

9:42

Only come up with him. That

9:44

triggered. For. His race draws. Reforms

9:47

are way up the mountain. And

9:50

I certainly wouldn't on both sides. So.

9:52

Of of know and over for. Worked on a regular

9:54

been same. Color.

9:59

treasures right around us already. I hear

10:02

something down in the creek. The rocks

10:04

go getting knocked on us. The

10:07

body says, you hear that? And he says, well,

10:10

he's looking pretty scared. So I

10:14

turn around and I look back

10:16

towards him and he says, man, that's what I call you,

10:19

the big guy. So tell you what, I'm

10:23

going to go back in the house. You guys have a good night. We've

10:27

heard other people say this stuff, but it seems

10:30

like you keep keeping the black bears and the coyotes

10:32

and stuff out of my pasture. I'll

10:35

bring you some tomorrow. I

10:39

drove a crystal in my washroom

10:41

and raised

10:44

my arm up with a wave of foam and

10:47

he did it back. It

10:50

made me feel pretty good that I've, you know,

10:52

that this guy actually, and I

10:55

can be wrong, I can go out in the

10:57

woods behind the house again next time he could appear and

10:59

snap me in half. Obviously he can do that being that

11:01

big. But

11:06

he acknowledged my

11:08

presence and I

11:11

thought that was a good sign. So

11:14

the next day I braided the, this

11:16

was before Halloween last year. I rated

11:20

the kids on the levels, stepped

11:22

through them by the way. I should

11:25

climb up into a tree a little bit. Back

11:29

where I'd seen him, I shoved him

11:31

down in some branches. So

11:33

you could, you had to pick him up and

11:35

move him to take him. This

11:39

is the move I feel when I place him. I just

11:42

hooked her on and said, there you go, dude. Hope

11:45

you enjoy. Back

11:48

to the house, down in my own

11:51

business and the following

11:53

day, I went back out there, both

11:55

those apples were gone. No sticks, no

11:58

tree on cores. They were just gone. I

12:01

think I might have spoiled him though. But

12:03

I've tried to give him regular apples after that. He

12:06

hasn't touched them. I

12:09

laid a candy bar out there in the

12:12

same tree. That was all I did. Snickers.

12:17

I took it out of the bag and laid it up in the tree and

12:19

shoved it on the branches again so

12:21

you had to work to get at it. And I was going too.

12:24

But so far, I think I almost made him

12:27

upset. Last

12:30

year, because

12:32

he went around and turned

12:34

the brush around the horse fence and

12:37

got the electric fence working again. I

12:43

think I might have shocked him a little bit once I got

12:45

it going again. Because

12:49

a couple days afterwards, at

12:51

first he was a new boy and nobody had seen the stories

12:54

about the trees shoved upside

12:56

down on the ground all by where I

12:59

made my first sighting of

13:01

him. It was about a

13:03

15, 20 foot tall log. No,

13:07

it was a part

13:10

of a tree that had broken off in the land. But

13:12

it was shoved eight inches

13:15

in rocky, mountainous, and

13:18

then the water

13:21

part was balanced up in the crook

13:23

or some branches way up high. I had some

13:29

little buddies come over and we took it down. I was

13:33

afraid it was going to fall on the fence and knock it

13:35

down the next wind that comes through. Of

13:39

course, he was blowing it off. It just didn't

13:41

work for a lot of life. I

13:43

could see where it snapped off. I

13:46

was trying to explain to him what to do. So

13:51

that branch snapped off, flew

13:54

25, 30 feet through the air, and

13:58

landed perfectly in the ground. and managed

14:00

to shove itself from this ground

14:03

and balance up there. I

14:05

just said, whatever you say, man. So

14:09

we pulled down, left it laying there. We

14:11

do know one thing I really felt strange about all

14:13

out there. So cause I figured

14:16

I'd take him off and surprise

14:19

him. So when I

14:22

got 6,000 volts,

14:25

seven weeks later, something

14:27

picked up the wall and it

14:29

was outside the fence. Why

14:32

he cleaned that up. I don't know. I

14:35

have to say, I don't know how to, these guys think of us. He's

14:38

going to see, I'm

14:40

assuming you know who Scott Carpenter is. I

14:43

watch all his stuff. I just try to stay

14:46

on good terms with the folks

14:48

in the woods. So I walked

14:51

the wood line and just

14:53

try to talk to, stand good terms of them and say, look out

14:56

there is your area. I can even hear my area. As

15:00

long as we keep it there, we are good to go.

15:03

So I was attracted to my pastor. I've

15:05

got, I'm assuming it was him, but

15:08

I've got a picture of a, one

15:10

clear out of a trail, the damn thing is

15:14

a left foot, a perfectly clear toes,

15:18

20 inches long. And it's got

15:20

to be eight inches wide. And

15:24

the side was on before, I'm not a

15:26

very big guy, but I had to jump

15:29

from track to track. There's lots of

15:31

stories of, one

15:35

show and signs of aggression. I

15:37

talked to one guy that's not too far from me. Apparently

15:42

up there in the mountains, she's had the classic rots and

15:44

stuff like that. So I had him. We're

15:48

in their yard, their living room. Apparently

15:56

he didn't like you being there. I'm

16:00

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16:02

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16:04

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17:46

size prints all the time. I'm

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going to pass you everything from- I

17:51

said, this is almost 20 inches. About

17:57

one. A smaller set.

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I was all the way

18:04

back to the pasture and that

18:07

one looked like it had broken a

18:09

toe one time because the big toe on the left foot was

18:12

pointing in like drastically. I

18:16

don't like to have anybody out there that can set their

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broken bones. But they've

18:21

been as close

18:23

as before I started talking

18:25

to them on a regular basis. I

18:27

found a trail that came all the way to the side of the house. But

18:33

I haven't seen any like that in a long time. So

18:37

I figured maybe my getting on good

18:39

terms for those folks was a

18:41

good thing. I

18:44

do have one vocalization. Them scaring

18:47

some coyotes away. I'll

18:49

have some security cameras outside. You

18:51

can hear the coyotes. And

18:54

this guy who all at him. You

18:56

don't have your coyotes anymore. I'm

18:59

trying to figure out anything I can argue overkill. My

19:01

stuff down here in the left shoulder. So I

19:03

go out on a regular

19:06

basis to see if anybody's been

19:08

stepping over the friends that are coming in. I

19:10

know they're like wild raspberries because

19:12

I was following that trail

19:15

from outside back in the pasture.

19:19

And you can see where it stopped. And you see the raspberries

19:22

up behind outside

19:26

of the fence. I

19:32

told other people I don't care about proof anymore because

19:35

I'm not worried about proving it when I know they're

19:37

there. Because people have asked me when

19:39

I, you know, just this guy stepped back

19:42

over the fence. And

19:46

apparently he took me to those raspberries. And

19:49

I said, I'm going to get my raspberries. If you get my meaning, you let them all

19:51

drop in my pasture. It

19:53

was quite the large pile. I got a few. Why

19:56

didn't you scoop some of them? I

20:00

don't want people around here out there going. So,

20:06

I'm a firm believer that certain agencies

20:08

know that they haven't been doing things to me for years. I

20:12

can see it in my neighbor. Why the hell would I want a bunch

20:15

of idiots running around the woods out here that

20:17

have been following you for life? Just go

20:19

through YouTube one day and I'll follow your channel. I

20:22

think I'll follow all the... I

20:25

consider these things in

20:27

some people that don't like

20:29

me or realize and can

20:32

be cheesy and all that. People say they

20:34

have a bad reputation. All they

20:36

do is put out there what people post as far as I know. For you,

20:38

Steve

20:41

is the all, not

20:43

a hunt. Some of

20:45

these guys, I

20:48

was reading and following Dave Pilates a lot.

20:51

I was 20 years infantry and 12 years

20:53

of military cop. He was a

20:56

wild-caught cop on the outside. So,

20:59

listening to you speak, it seems like we think

21:02

all in the same way once. It

21:04

sounds like you're not really scared

21:06

of having these creatures around your house at

21:08

all. Well,

21:14

I know people destroy

21:16

it even if they see one of them. They

21:20

get fishing. They get fishing. The deep-seated

21:22

fear. Some folks consider me a little different

21:24

than a lot of folks. I've

21:26

been in a lot of bad places myself. I've

21:30

been in some bad scribes. Every

21:32

once in a while I had to pull myself out. Germany, I had

21:34

to... Later on I had to have wild

21:36

boars in Germany. I had about 300 pounds. I

21:39

faced one down the road. I had

21:41

to go to Germany. I

21:43

had to go to Germany. I had to go

21:45

to Germany. I had barely experienced

21:47

it. I had about 300 pounds.

21:49

I faced one down with a pickaxe one night,

21:52

and years and years and years. And

21:57

then when we least been Ya know, all we had was blanks or other things. through

22:00

our gear and garbage. I

22:02

pick up the closest thing I could and get them

22:05

out of there. And that was that ask. Am

22:07

I, all the way that I

22:09

walk out there and see something

22:11

stupid. Didn't one of these guys, well, I'll

22:14

fix my attitude. Oh

22:17

no, because this is

22:19

just my way of thinking. I

22:22

figure they're like, they are people. A

22:25

lot larger, stronger, and do things a lot

22:28

different than we do. I

22:32

just say people, some are good

22:35

guys and some are raging

22:37

e-holes. What

22:40

is me more about what we're into out there is somebody

22:42

who found me a father

22:45

upon Blackbird sighting that day long ago. They

22:50

are no different. Take

22:52

people out. Game Grunter, I don't know

22:54

how to head north of me. Last year, Earl

22:56

was in a hammock and a Blackbird pulled out of a

22:59

vermic. But

23:06

there's been, seems to be more dogma and sightings

23:09

in the same stately in recent

23:11

months in your area. So,

23:15

um, carpenters got two videos. They

23:17

eat. Oh, sure. Yeah. Usually when I'm in the

23:19

house, I'm, I've got this feeling I'm being

23:21

lost. So we were out there just checking the

23:23

fence line just the other day. And

23:28

it wasn't the same feeling. It

23:31

was, I could

23:35

tell something was out there that didn't want

23:37

to do for them. And

23:40

for change of pace, usually I don't go by

23:42

the woods without some bullet

23:44

based backup, shall we say. I

23:47

didn't take any of that day. So I threw

23:51

the boys with me. I'm like, let's get back to the house.

23:53

Now, obviously

23:55

we know that those are known

23:58

to be violent. I

24:00

took the land between the legs that everybody in my brother

24:02

is investigating. That guy took out an entire family. We're

24:05

going to move down here. There's

24:08

cows, uh, it

24:10

goes and creatures. And these

24:13

mounds are full of just unexplained stuff.

24:19

I'm trying to come to find out there was a family killed

24:22

back here in 96, about

24:24

10 miles away from my house. And

24:28

supposedly it was a organic deal there.

24:34

Really? There's areas going for weird

24:37

stuff. It's a lot of, a lot

24:39

of things going on in your area. It sounds like for sure.

24:43

It sounds like you haven't seen the

24:45

last of the Bigfoot around

24:47

your property. I would guess from

24:49

what you've said so far, you probably

24:51

will have more encounters for sure. I

24:54

have no problem in the world with that. So

24:57

I, I try

24:59

to show him respect. He shows me

25:02

respect and we're good. If

25:05

he wants, let's

25:08

go to have the entity show up. There

25:10

are some advantages to being broken

25:12

up later because I

25:14

do have some tools that might open that. We'll

25:17

leave that to the imagination. Yeah.

25:20

Mark has been quite the conversation.

25:22

I'm glad that we were able to connect

25:25

and that you were able to share what

25:27

you've encountered so far. All right.

25:29

Bigfoot society. You've got the privilege of talking to

25:31

Mr. Hernando from

25:33

Florida today. We had talked back

25:36

and forth a little bit on

25:39

TikTok, I believe it was. And he's

25:41

got some interesting stories to share about

25:43

Bigfoot. So Hernando, how are you doing

25:45

today? I'm

25:47

pretty good and beautiful. It's on me here in Florida.

25:50

Very good. So let's get right

25:52

down to it. Yeah.

25:56

I'd like to start from just

25:58

before my father's passing. just

26:00

a couple years ago. I was this

26:02

caretaker in the last year or so of his

26:04

life. He'd come down

26:06

with pancreatic cancer and

26:09

he was letting go of a lot of things

26:11

that he'd experienced in a lifetime. And

26:14

at the time he was aware of my

26:16

interest and my activities here in Myakka

26:19

in Florida and he wanted

26:21

to make sure I didn't give up

26:24

as easily as I was wanting to

26:26

out here looking for the skunk tape in

26:29

the Myakka State Park and the

26:31

adjacent area. And

26:33

as the story goes, one day, about

26:35

two months before he passed away, I

26:37

almost had my lips in. I'd

26:40

been out there for almost two years

26:43

off and on looking around. I hadn't

26:45

really seen anything, hadn't heard anything. I've

26:48

seen some footage from associates of

26:50

mine that are pretty well known

26:52

footage on the internet. And

26:55

I told them, I just feel like I'm wasting my

26:57

time out there. It's a beautiful setting to

26:59

be in, but it's

27:01

just a lot of time to be spent out

27:04

looking for something that you're just not sure exists.

27:08

And he told me, he said, son, whatever

27:11

you don't give up, these things are out

27:13

there. He said, I

27:15

have no intention on telling anybody about

27:19

what actually happened to me in the Pokemon

27:21

forest. I

27:24

said, well, what are you referring

27:26

to today? He said you were calling 96. You

27:29

were at work that week. You

27:31

had the opportunity to come out hunting with me

27:33

that week. It was a Wednesday in 96, the

27:36

winter of 96. And

27:39

he was coming into the same spot. Him

27:41

and I had both hunted for over

27:44

10 years. I was in

27:46

my early teens when he first started taking me out there.

27:49

And off and on, for many years,

27:52

both he and I would have a conversation after coming

27:54

out of the woods. Did you hear someone

27:56

walking through the woods? I

28:00

said, yeah, oftentimes I would hear

28:02

someone walking. It was

28:04

clearly something on two feet, so

28:06

we'd never seen anything. Well,

28:09

Wednesday that I was unable to

28:11

accompany him hunting, he was hunting

28:13

in the same spot and we had hunted for roughly

28:16

12 years. And

28:19

he said,

28:22

the day I came and saw you

28:24

that afternoon, and I

28:26

told you I refuse

28:28

to hunt there anymore, and

28:31

I wouldn't tell you why. He

28:33

said, I even left my pre-climber

28:35

back there because of what happened.

28:39

And I said, what do you mean by that, Dan? He

28:44

said, Ron,

28:46

these things exist. And

28:50

there are a lot

28:52

more places than people even think. The

28:54

Eastern Shore is an isolated peninsula.

28:57

I'd never heard of anybody even mentioning the

28:59

word Bigfoot on the Eastern Shore of Maryland.

29:03

And he continued to tell me, he said, I

29:06

was in my tree stand that morning.

29:08

I'd been up there around 4.35 o'clock. And

29:13

he said, around 7.30, I

29:16

heard something coming from behind me. And

29:19

he had his tree stand facing two

29:22

west on a very

29:24

large pine tree that was up on

29:26

a sand hill. And you

29:29

could see, as far as the eye could

29:31

see, without obstruction from some other thing like

29:33

you would on the ground. He was quite high. I'd

29:35

say probably about 14 or 15 feet up the tree.

29:39

And he said, I heard

29:41

it again. He said, I

29:43

heard footsteps. And

29:46

what sounded like a very large person. And

29:50

he said, as the footsteps got

29:52

closer, we should see my very left

29:55

about 25 or 30 yards. It

29:58

wasn't very far. So

30:02

on my left eye, I saw what

30:04

I thought was another hunter, which aggravated

30:06

me. What it did, it was pretty

30:09

far removed into the forest. But

30:11

he rarely saw any other hunters there at all,

30:14

at least in that section of the forest. And

30:19

he said, I was watching

30:21

out of the corner of my eye, and I

30:24

was about to say something, because

30:27

I thought it was another hunter. He said,

30:30

I turned my head slightly to the left. And

30:35

he said, it looked like a man

30:37

in a gill, which was very

30:39

tall. He said, it was probably about

30:41

seven foot tall. And he

30:44

said, as I turned my head further

30:46

to observe it, he

30:50

said, my tree stand shifted

30:53

due to the wind, but these

30:55

things can shift and the tree

30:57

moves around. He said, it squeaks.

31:00

He said, when it squeaks, it

31:02

turns and looks directly

31:04

in the eye. And

31:08

he said, whenever it looked in the

31:10

eye, he realized that

31:12

it was not a human. And

31:15

he said, the overwhelming fear of

31:17

what I was looking at completely

31:21

locked me up. He

31:25

said, son, I've been through two

31:27

tours in Vietnam, and I've never been so

31:29

frightened. He said, when

31:31

it looked him in the eye, he said,

31:33

this thing had red eyes, and

31:37

it was completely covered in hair. And

31:41

this is when I said, dad, you

31:44

had a gun in your hand. He

31:46

said, this thing, if

31:49

I'd shot it, would have definitely climbed

31:51

the tree and beat me to death with it. He

31:55

said, it was so massive and

31:57

so scary looking. He said, it was quite much. That's

32:00

like something of a horror film. And

32:03

he said, whenever, it gave him

32:05

a gaze, and

32:08

it stared at him for a few moments. And

32:12

it, just as quickly as it had

32:15

turned its head to look at him, it shifted

32:17

back the way it was going and

32:20

ran directly through a briar

32:22

patch that was frankly impenetrable

32:24

by a human being anyhow. And

32:28

he said, whenever I heard no more

32:30

tree snapping, no debris

32:32

being stepped on, I immediately climbed down

32:36

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32:38

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32:40

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32:43

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details. I think a lot

34:20

of people have this impression. Well, if

34:23

I got a gun and I'm out there and I see one,

34:25

I'm going to shoot it. And

34:27

I think there's something primordial

34:31

in a person's brain that stops you

34:33

from reacting in a logical manner. And

34:36

that's what he definitely experienced that day.

34:38

And it's frightening him

34:40

so much. He never returned to

34:42

get his big climber and

34:45

refused to ever hunt there again. It's

34:48

just an absolutely fascinating story. First,

34:51

thank you so much for sharing. Did

34:53

he say anything about if he heard

34:56

it make any noise at all? Yes,

34:59

yes, yes, he did. He said when

35:02

it shifted his gaze and

35:04

looked at him and when it shifted

35:07

his head back away from him and

35:09

it started running, he said it sounded like

35:11

a lion and an elephant at the same

35:14

time as it was running through

35:16

that thicket. He

35:18

said it ain't strange probably as

35:20

long as he could hear it breaking branches. I

35:23

don't know how many yards that would be, but it's

35:26

quite a distance before you stop hearing

35:28

something in the woods. Anyhow, when

35:31

you're a forest, things tend to

35:33

amplify and sound. And

35:36

so I'm assuming he was probably a

35:38

couple hundred yards away before my father

35:40

even reacted to get out of the tree

35:42

stand. And he said

35:45

that sound was,

35:48

it was absolutely frightening

35:51

to the bone. The

35:54

tree stand he was in, he had just

35:56

bought the previous season and tree climbers at

35:58

the time were quite good. quite expensive

36:01

and for him to have left it,

36:03

not to ever retrieve it. It

36:05

was surprising to me. He

36:08

didn't tell me this story until just

36:10

a couple of months before he died. I

36:12

recall the day because he

36:15

told me, he said, we're never hunting there again. We

36:18

will never hunt there again. And I asked him,

36:20

why not? And he said,

36:22

son, we're just not hunting there anymore. And

36:25

I left it at that. And I

36:27

really put no thought into it until

36:29

he told me the story prior to

36:31

his death. After he told

36:33

me this story, I took the time

36:36

to look around because like I said,

36:38

I've never heard of anything humanoid being

36:40

sighted on the Eastern shore. But

36:44

as I told you previously, that

36:46

particular swamp was

36:50

widely discussed as being haunted, but

36:52

no one ever said haunted by

36:55

who or what. And

36:58

after hearing this story, I have no

37:00

doubt that is what

37:02

people probably hear or

37:04

see in that area.

37:06

And that's why it was quote unquote, I wanted.

37:10

How far back did those accounts

37:13

that you found through your research

37:15

go back roughly? At

37:17

least several decades. Now,

37:20

I know I didn't research any further than that. But

37:23

when he told me this story, when I started doing

37:25

research, I know there were other

37:28

accounts pretty

37:30

much starting from the Northern part of

37:32

Delaware, which is on the peninsula with

37:34

Delaware, Maryland, and then Virginia. A

37:40

lot of people aren't even know what

37:42

the Eastern shore is or even where it's at. But it's a

37:44

peninsula that hangs off the East coast there. When

37:48

you think of DC or Baltimore, you got the

37:50

Bay and then you have the Eastern

37:52

shore, which is Delaware, Maryland, and a portion of

37:54

Virginia. And

38:00

the few sightings that I'd come

38:02

across, this cursory

38:04

search on the internet, there

38:07

were sightings in Delaware, Maryland,

38:10

and Virginia the same year. You're

38:13

in Florida now, but this

38:15

has influenced you down there. You say

38:18

you are looking for the skunk tape

38:20

down in Mayaka State Park, correct? Correct.

38:24

So much that I've actually, in

38:26

the last six months, moved adjacent

38:29

to the State Park. Because

38:32

where I was living here in Florida, which

38:35

was Bradenton, Bradenton, Sarasota

38:37

area, that's west of

38:39

this Mayaka area, and

38:42

it would take me about an hour to

38:44

get where I needed to be just before

38:46

I even got out of my car. Now I'm

38:49

65 minutes, and it gives

38:51

me time to really

38:53

focus on what I'm trying to do out

38:55

there. Personally, I

38:57

haven't experienced anything. I've

39:00

come across some partial prints that

39:02

are questionable, but I

39:05

have yet to come across any full

39:07

prints that I could cast or say,

39:09

yes, that's definitely not human.

39:12

But after my father told

39:14

me that, and he was emphatic that I

39:16

continued to search, because you

39:19

hear stories from people that live

39:22

here and have lived here for many

39:24

generations. And

39:27

these stories, I believe, are

39:29

100% accurate and true. Are

39:33

you able to share any of those

39:35

stories that have been passed around for

39:37

generations, or is that a thing where

39:39

we can't really talk about? So what

39:41

I've seen are glimpses at

39:43

this thing. Not so much long

39:46

periods of time to observe them, but there's

39:49

been people telling me they've

39:51

had one run across the road really

39:54

late at night on some of these back

39:56

roads. And some people are

39:58

not familiar with how to do that. how remote

40:00

this area is, as far as, there's

40:03

some of these roads back here, there's

40:05

literally nothing but

40:07

trees and swamp and more water. As

40:12

far as you can see, people think of

40:14

Florida as pretty well built up, but the

40:16

center of the state is still

40:19

primordial. It really is, it's

40:21

a beautiful site. And

40:24

I encourage everybody to

40:26

come and check out

40:28

our state parks, because there are magnificent

40:31

creatures out here to be seen by

40:33

all. And the

40:35

Skunk Cape is an

40:38

extremely rare creature, and

40:40

people do see it. I have no doubt

40:42

of that. What

40:45

do you feel that the Skunk Cape

40:47

is, what is it that you're looking

40:49

for when you go out exactly? Personally,

40:52

I feel connection with all

40:55

creatures. It's

40:58

not just the Skunk Cape aspect of

41:01

it. When I'm out, I'm

41:03

not just looking for Skunk Cape, I'm looking

41:06

for other rare animals also. But

41:09

I feel a connection deep in

41:12

my soul when I look through these things,

41:14

because to me it feels like

41:16

maybe a

41:19

cousin or some kinship to it,

41:21

to humans. And

41:23

it's hard to put in words,

41:25

but I feel a spiritual

41:28

connection there. And

41:31

I hope one day to

41:34

be able to see one or at least

41:36

get some really good evidence through

41:38

footprints or other means.

41:41

The state is restrictive about what

41:44

you can and can't do in there, as

41:46

far as putting cameras up and things like that. You

41:48

have to get permission and they have

41:50

to be put on a map and the

41:52

rangers keep eye on things like

41:54

that. It makes it a little

41:56

more difficult because of that. You're out there, you're

41:59

gonna have to share. it yourself or

42:01

witness something that is

42:04

enough for you to say, wow,

42:06

this is it, this is real. And

42:10

I think there's certain things that some

42:12

people require and others

42:15

are willing to take a

42:19

feeling and a

42:21

need to try and

42:23

find these things. I

42:28

agree. Once you've started to look for

42:30

the creature, whatever that is, and wherever

42:32

that is, it's a thing that it's

42:35

pretty hard to give up once you

42:37

start looking for it. You

42:39

also mentioned that there are acquaintances you

42:41

had that had gotten video of

42:44

the Skunk Ape. Is there anything more you

42:46

can go into? I'll say

42:48

this. The guy I'm referring

42:50

to, his video has made

42:53

the rounds on various supernatural

42:55

shows and things. The funny

42:57

thing is, and this amazes me

42:59

a little, they always

43:01

show just his video, never any of

43:03

his snapshots that he managed to take.

43:05

He got really close

43:08

to this thing. And

43:10

for whatever reason,

43:12

they never used his snapshot

43:14

photos he had. But keep

43:17

in mind the video he

43:19

had, there was probably two

43:21

dozen people standing there witnessing this.

43:24

And if you go back and look at

43:26

the video and anybody's familiar with big pudding

43:30

or Skunk Ape, probably knows the

43:32

video I'm referring to. I don't want to say his name

43:34

because I haven't spoken to him about this. But

43:36

if you go back and look at the video, as

43:40

the video begins, just

43:43

to his right, there's a young lady

43:46

standing there with a

43:48

massive camera. Now

43:51

what I'd like to know is

43:53

what happened to her snapshots. Things

43:56

like that, I don't know, will I

43:58

go unnoticed or ignored? But

44:01

I guarantee there are more photos

44:04

or videos of this thing from

44:06

that same event. That's

44:12

very interesting because I'm

44:14

99% that I know

44:16

what video you're talking about. But

44:18

it's interesting to know that extra

44:20

information where there are other people

44:23

there. And you bring up a

44:25

good point what happened to what

44:27

they captured. If they're

44:29

listening, then contact me at

44:32

bigfootsocietygml.com. I'd love to hear

44:34

that information or see what

44:37

you had captured as well. That's

44:40

very interesting. Get those

44:42

videos and photographs into this guy

44:45

because it's important that we document these things.

44:48

If they are as rare as I believe they are,

44:50

they should be put on an endangered

44:52

or a rare species list. So

44:55

people don't go out there and deliberately shoot

44:58

these things. Something

45:00

so rare and beautiful could

45:02

be observed, not hunted. Hernando,

45:05

we'll end with this. What

45:08

will it take for you to feel

45:10

like you've reached your goal of searching

45:12

for this creature down in Florida? What

45:14

would be the thing

45:16

that would have to happen in order for

45:18

you to feel like you've reached your goal?

45:22

For me personally, it would have

45:25

to be a sighting similar to my

45:27

father's or the gentleman that took the video

45:29

on what can I do. His

45:32

feelings, I was. What he was

45:35

saying was 100% real. It wasn't a bear. It

45:38

was on two feet. It was human-like. And

45:41

it did not want to be harassed. I

45:44

appreciate you reaching out. And

45:47

this has been an extremely

45:49

enlightening conversation.

45:52

I'm sure that in the future, once

45:54

you're able to find what you're looking for, I

45:56

would definitely say don't be afraid to

45:59

do it. to reach back out to me, I'd love

46:01

to talk to you again. But are

46:03

there any closing words before we

46:06

wrap up this phone call? Yes.

46:11

Never give up. Anybody

46:15

out there that, that Bigfoot don't

46:18

give up. They are out there.

46:23

You could spend an entire lifetime and only

46:25

see one or none, but they

46:27

are out there. All right, Bigfoot Society,

46:29

we've got the privilege of talking to

46:31

new friend, Heath Collinan from Vancouver Island.

46:34

How's it going today, Keith? Really

46:37

good. We got some half

46:39

decent weather here for winter. That's

46:44

been nice. Still

46:46

got snow up there. We don't,

46:49

we don't get much in Gold River where I am

46:52

on the west side, middle of the island.

46:55

It's really a lot of rain. 90%

46:57

rain in the winter up here. So

47:02

the mountains get more snow, but in the valley

47:04

where we are, it's really

47:06

nice and wet. I

47:08

just came back from a weekend across

47:10

the island on the east side. I

47:14

met up with four other researchers

47:17

over there and we

47:19

just spent the night, set up some

47:21

sound equipment, just some heights. And checked

47:24

out some video cameras that were in the bush

47:27

and came some cards.

47:29

And it was really interesting

47:31

that trip. So up in the

47:33

car froze. It

47:35

was really windy and cold over where we

47:37

were on the east coast. Things

47:43

have been going good in Sasquatch, as I'm asking,

47:45

rather than. You've been looking

47:47

into Sasquatch for a long time out there.

47:49

How did you get started with that, Keith?

47:53

Oh, the Gimlin film first off. And

47:57

then they went out here in movements from. Manitoba

48:01

to Vancouver Island and

48:05

living with the native community basically.

48:07

My parents bought a taxi company

48:10

in northwest middle of Vancouver Island

48:12

in the village of Gold River and

48:16

we ran that for 13 years.

48:20

Just talking to natives that we traveled

48:22

with back and forth, just

48:25

their old stories about Sasquatch's

48:28

turning to

48:30

the villages back in the 1800s. The Sasquatch

48:32

would reach in the kids sleep in the

48:34

middle of the floor, not

48:36

in the edges, cause Sasquatch would reach into

48:38

the bungalows and try to grab the kids.

48:41

Yeah, it was quite history back back

48:44

to the 1800s on

48:47

Vancouver Island. If

48:49

you look up the story of a

48:51

much-led hairy and old native trapper back

48:54

from Malachia Bend,

48:58

which is up in Gold River here. That's

49:00

the oldest account that I know of and

49:03

that dates back to the 1800s of

49:06

Sasquatch's being on Vancouver Island

49:08

and which is really cool

49:11

because from

49:13

the mainland on each

49:15

side you can see it

49:17

from the island so it's a few

49:19

mile swim. So Sasquatch

49:21

is actually commute from

49:24

Alert Bay over to the

49:26

islands and the island hop. They

49:28

come to Alert Bay and

49:31

they do a lot of howling up the

49:33

native reserve up there. I've

49:36

got friends up there that send

49:38

me a phone recording

49:42

of howls, grunts,

49:44

sounds. That's pretty cool

49:46

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a lot of activity. We

50:52

just missed out on a bunch of howls and

50:55

whoops, a Saturday night.

50:58

We went up by Woss area,

51:01

Cordell Burnie Woss, and

51:03

the former Neil Woss area. And

51:05

we were up there on the east side, and

51:08

some of the four researchers that we met

51:10

up there got some really

51:12

good howls and barks and tree knocks,

51:15

and we just set up

51:17

a sound recorder in the bush up

51:19

on the ridge below where they were camping. And

51:22

they said we caught some good people. It's

51:25

interesting. The Sasquatch we

51:27

flourish here. It's such

51:29

a cool habitat. We

51:32

got Sasquatches that live basically on

51:34

the ocean. Even

51:36

clams, seals, anything

51:39

on the ocean. It's

51:41

so abundant. And

51:43

then we got ones that chase elk in

51:46

the forest. I really believe

51:48

that some of the Sasquatch has heard

51:50

them up into a valley in

51:52

the wintertime, and we'll feed off

51:54

of them during the winters

51:56

over here. Such

51:58

a good food. for

52:01

sunscroaches. It's a

52:03

beautiful habitat. Vancouver Island is about

52:06

a thousand miles long and maybe

52:09

75 miles wide at

52:12

the widest points. And

52:14

the west side of it is

52:17

open ocean in China. It's

52:19

just rugged oceans, lots

52:21

of beautiful big beaches on

52:24

the west side, you

52:26

have the flying helicopter, seaplane or

52:29

boat. And that's

52:31

the only accessible way in the west coast. A

52:34

few really good out there, Alert

52:36

Bay. They're really nice.

52:38

Alert Bay is a Sasquatch haven. The

52:41

Sasquatch just flew over from Maine. I know we're

52:44

there for some reason and spend

52:46

a long time on the beaches picking

52:49

clamshells. Alert Bay

52:52

is a real hot spot for them. It's

52:55

just annoying me to tell us there's

52:57

so many, how do you get your dogs barking

52:59

up to the rest? Yeah,

53:03

we got hot spots on the island where they

53:05

do come to shore and we

53:08

don't know why yet. They come from the

53:10

mainland over the island and they'll go back

53:12

and different seasons and

53:15

we lose them. We lose them

53:17

in that area and they'll be gone. I have

53:20

about four areas out

53:22

here that I really spend time in, in the

53:24

last 40 years and

53:27

there's activity up there. But

53:29

we go out for a week, spend

53:31

a week in the bush. They

53:34

will come into camp, throw

53:36

rocks. My girlfriend's sister was

53:38

a major non-believer until

53:41

two summers ago where she has

53:43

a baseball-sized boulder who was thrown

53:45

out of a tree five feet

53:48

away from her at a

53:50

campsite ten minutes out

53:53

of Gold River. So

53:55

we don't have to travel that far to

53:57

get Sasquatch. We've had them

53:59

in towns. We

54:01

had one at the water tower, one at

54:03

the reserve out

54:05

here, and within two miles of town

54:08

reserve. The water

54:10

tower was half a mile up

54:12

the road. A

54:14

gentleman walked his dog up

54:17

by the water tower, and the

54:19

Sasquatch walked right in front of him, and

54:22

the guy didn't believe in him. Until

54:24

then, he was one of the normal people.

54:27

So that was pretty cool, huh? In

54:29

town, that's pretty nice for Gold River,

54:31

but we are settled in the bush.

54:35

We do have bears, a

54:37

lot of black bears in Gold River, in

54:40

the island, cougars, wolves, and

54:43

there's probably about 40 grizzly bears up

54:46

at the north end of the

54:49

island now. Elk, deer, yeah,

54:52

we got quite a variety of animals, lots

54:55

of food. There's no shortage of

54:57

Sasquatch food on the island. If

54:59

you're on the west coast, it's

55:02

not hard for them to be on all fours, run

55:04

out, grab a seal, and there's

55:07

a meal for them. So

55:09

it's pretty cool. I got

55:11

a good friend of mine that's putting

55:14

a boating outing together. We're going to

55:16

go cruise some beaches, hit

55:18

an old army base that's

55:21

deserted, spend the night there

55:23

doing a little bit of

55:25

research, set some sound equipment

55:27

up, a few

55:30

trailcams, and

55:33

see if they can get Sasquatch on the

55:35

beach eating clamshells. So

55:37

that's their goal. You mentioned you

55:40

have grizzly bears around the area,

55:42

and I've talked to a gentleman

55:44

in Montana, and he said there's

55:46

times when the Sasquatch will almost

55:50

fight the grizzlies. They found

55:52

grizzlies that have their necks broken. Have

55:54

you ever heard any experiences

55:57

where the Sasquatch are going? going

56:00

up against the larger predators

56:02

in the area of the

56:04

river or anything? For any reason, I don't know.

56:06

But the bears won't. The bears

56:08

will not. They won't mess

56:10

with them. The black bears? Yeah, the black bears,

56:13

yeah, they won't mess with them. Like you

56:15

imagine a baseball-sized rock being thrown

56:18

at an elk leg to

56:20

slow it down in the bush. And

56:23

they'll grab that elk and break

56:25

his neck like nothing. But

56:28

their hunting skills are they

56:30

do use weapons. A

56:32

rock's a weapon. And

56:34

they'll bring down elk to your leg and slow

56:37

it down and we don't maim it. Follow

56:40

it, maim it, take

56:42

it down. I've come across

56:44

about three elk

56:46

in the past 15

56:48

years. Unexplained dead. Just

56:51

in the bush laying there. Beautiful

56:53

elk. Within, you know, you're

56:55

in dead for maybe half an hour. No

56:58

bullet wound. It's not hunting season. Good

57:00

luck to anybody up there, even. There's

57:03

such a vast wilderness

57:05

out here. Lots of

57:07

logging roads. There's lots of access. 90%

57:10

of anchor islands logged. Well,

57:12

that's the sad part. Yeah,

57:15

accessibility is really nice. We

57:18

do have a lot of old shimmers still in a

57:21

lot of the parts of the island. First

57:23

growth timber and

57:26

second growth is really nice. And Impchish

57:28

Valley has really grown overview in

57:32

the last 20 years. We

57:34

got caves running up and down in

57:36

Impchish Valley. Just what every

57:39

mountain will have a cave here that's somewhere.

57:41

Some walkers, I know, found

57:44

a giant cave up

57:47

your boat, to the

57:49

boat up in the

57:51

big cave up there. One guy went

57:53

in 300 feet by

57:56

himself and he said, you can

57:58

stand up to hold all the way. But

58:01

he came back after about 300 feet up,

58:04

but he said he goes in waiting.

58:06

So we're going to go to the summer, set

58:09

up a few trail cameras, sound

58:12

equipment, over by that

58:14

area and then camp

58:17

for about eight days and see what happens

58:19

over in that area. But

58:21

what I've learned over the years is four

58:24

days in the bush

58:27

out here, a Sasquatch will come to

58:29

camp. They're really curious. They

58:31

know about us. They've watched friends who are out in Grove. We got residential

58:33

Sasquatch vision. We got island hoppers. It's how

58:35

do you describe it? You're in awe. My

58:37

friends and I were up

58:39

in a mountain lake, 22 kilometers out of town

58:41

here. Somebody

58:51

had made a homemade picnic table out of

58:53

an old piece of wood. There

58:57

was a giant picnic table there. And

58:59

where we camped from the picnic table,

59:01

it must have been about 80 yards

59:04

away from the table towards

59:06

the lake. And

59:08

there's a trail that walks towards the lake. And

59:10

then you come across the picnic table and make

59:12

a left and down three

59:14

steps and you're on the lake. And this

59:17

is a giant picnic table. Somebody made out

59:19

of old wood that was falling

59:21

over in a wind blow. We're

59:24

out there one night, 10 o'clock at night, day

59:26

four, day five. We're

59:28

out there 10 o'clock at night and we

59:31

hear this knock on

59:33

the picnic table. Three wraps. Bang.

59:36

We hear a heart right away. You

59:38

can't control that. And then the

59:41

adrenaline starts to flow. And

59:43

my buddy and I, we looked at each other and

59:46

neither of us moved. We

59:48

knew what to do. It was

59:50

so clear, so loud. And it was

59:52

like boom on that picnic table 80 feet

59:55

away. 10 o'clock

59:57

at night. It is pitch black. The

1:00:00

only thing we got going was a fire. No

1:00:02

lanterns, no flashlights handy to grab and

1:00:05

run to the table. But

1:00:07

we did not investigate it. And

1:00:10

then I just sat there and we

1:00:12

never heard a thing after that. But

1:00:15

we never heard it come in the

1:00:17

camp. It was so

1:00:19

quiet. I think I walked

1:00:21

along the lake edge and

1:00:24

snuck into the camp up to the vision

1:00:27

table and then we wrapped the

1:00:29

three wraps up there. But that

1:00:32

was exciting. Another

1:00:34

time the same guy was out with,

1:00:38

we spent 10 days up in the river and

1:00:41

we had a mountain and

1:00:43

we got nine whoops. We

1:00:46

didn't catch it, but we tried tracking it

1:00:48

as we could up

1:00:50

this mountain and we came to a rock and

1:00:52

passed it over for us. Which is

1:00:55

no way we can get up that rock. Once

1:00:57

we got to the shimmers, it turned into

1:00:59

a rock face. And

1:01:01

you can see where it climbed up through the

1:01:03

moss. Was ripped off to rock in certain areas.

1:01:06

That's when they got a chimpanzee climbing

1:01:09

up there, but an 1800 pound one. All

1:01:12

fours. There was nothing for it to

1:01:14

get up there. So we turned around,

1:01:16

came back down the camp. I

1:01:18

had my video camera going and I

1:01:20

was telling people that we were up this

1:01:23

ridge, up this mountain.

1:01:25

And they said, that's what I kept there that

1:01:28

we saw earlier or heard

1:01:30

earlier. So

1:01:35

I got nine whoops and some video tape and

1:01:38

you can hear them, but I made the mistake

1:01:40

and walked towards the river and

1:01:43

the river drowned the sound

1:01:45

of the last four whoops out.

1:01:48

So you got more river than whoops. So

1:01:53

I got nine whoops on my video camera

1:01:56

anyways. That was pretty cool

1:01:58

and older. I have

1:02:00

never ever had my snout assessed

1:02:03

question about you

1:02:05

know how they talk about that cuteness rotten

1:02:08

meat Snell I've

1:02:10

never had that never come across a dead

1:02:12

deer or something the bush And

1:02:15

I've never a snout a Sasquatch

1:02:18

area and

1:02:20

Tree structures. I've never come anything

1:02:22

like Giant

1:02:25

trees being placed it

1:02:28

up in the air and stacked together That's

1:02:31

something else. I've never come across here

1:02:33

on the mainland. They I've heard stories

1:02:36

Four foot round tree will be wedged

1:02:38

up against another one and then four

1:02:40

or five other smaller longer

1:02:44

Pulls and be jammed up against him

1:02:46

make some kind of cheapy effect Out

1:02:49

here. I've never found no and

1:02:52

it's really hard. They make beds You

1:02:54

don't make houses. They're laying a nest

1:02:56

like a gorilla out here on the island

1:02:59

They don't make houses You won't

1:03:02

find any tree structures where you climb

1:03:04

into it and branches Make

1:03:06

a little forked that maybe won't do it over

1:03:08

here Have you found

1:03:10

nest sites then it's hard to

1:03:12

say because the ground out here

1:03:14

is like you get a bunch

1:03:16

of ferns And

1:03:19

you don't know if the elk are laying in

1:03:21

them or Sasquatch So

1:03:23

that's the thing the elk will lay in the ferns too

1:03:25

and the Sasquatch But

1:03:28

you find indents Where

1:03:30

you think they were sitting over the years? One

1:03:33

tree of y'all the bark

1:03:35

might be picked off parts of the tree and

1:03:37

you might find an indent where he'll sit This

1:03:41

is Aaron Yeah,

1:03:45

they're very sneaky I Did

1:03:48

check a picture about two weeks ago of

1:03:50

one following us. I did

1:03:52

here in the background. So I turned around Took

1:03:55

a picture and we just

1:03:57

kept walking. I

1:03:59

got home I posted that picture and a

1:04:03

lady on my group site says, oh,

1:04:06

you caught a Sasquatch in the background

1:04:08

by those three olive trees. And

1:04:11

so she zoomed it in and

1:04:14

reposted those pictures and

1:04:17

turned up to the face of

1:04:19

a young juvenile. Young

1:04:22

Sasquatch, it's not

1:04:24

an old one, it's a young black one. So

1:04:27

we just took a face of a Sasquatch going

1:04:30

up along the road. So I

1:04:32

went and set a trail camera up there, the

1:04:35

elk were up there a while ago. There's

1:04:37

lots of fresh cats, a few

1:04:39

deer. So I said,

1:04:41

oh, we'll show the elk, or the

1:04:43

trail camera up. People can

1:04:45

elk or the

1:04:48

deer, maybe even a Sasquatch. So

1:04:51

I've got a trail camera in the area where I've got

1:04:54

a picture of a Sasquatch. So

1:04:56

that's pretty interesting. It was like, what's your

1:04:58

cause? Something was following us.

1:05:02

But you don't hear a lot. Our

1:05:05

bush is really quiet. We

1:05:07

heard maybe four birds today when

1:05:10

we were out for three hours, hiking

1:05:13

around today at one place, meeting

1:05:16

two buddies. The bush is really quiet.

1:05:19

We're talking about deer and elk, while

1:05:22

we're hiking. Like this,

1:05:24

you don't see them. We

1:05:26

make so much noise in

1:05:28

the forest. Even walking is a big trail

1:05:31

that are up behind one of our lakes. Group

1:05:35

Community Lake, also trails

1:05:37

back there for people to walk. Middle

1:05:39

safer. I was up

1:05:42

there today just hiking around. We're talking about

1:05:44

just like, they run, deer,

1:05:47

our valleys echo. If

1:05:49

you start off the highway and start driving down

1:05:51

the valley, that car will

1:05:54

echo four miles down

1:05:56

the valley. Everything hears

1:05:58

you coming. Sasquatch

1:06:00

is here. So, I

1:06:04

found the best way to find the Sasquatch is to let

1:06:06

him come to you. And

1:06:08

that's where we spend days

1:06:11

at the campsite. The

1:06:13

long-sled camping with

1:06:16

activities, 20 days, me

1:06:18

and a guy. Brought

1:06:20

a guy in from Hope. And

1:06:23

him and I spent 20 days in the bush. And

1:06:26

that was really interesting. But

1:06:29

we had no equipment. I

1:06:31

don't work. Retired.

1:06:34

Health reasons. But I

1:06:37

don't, so I don't have any equipment. I

1:06:39

don't sound equipment. I want no big mites

1:06:42

with a dish. That'd be really cool

1:06:44

to have. And night

1:06:46

vision. Now, wow, there

1:06:48

we go. I've

1:06:50

had a friend of mine that had $3,000. $3,000

1:06:55

for night vision. Oh,

1:06:57

it's like looking at daytime. Those

1:06:59

are beautiful night vision roads. But,

1:07:02

what's your grand? I don't

1:07:04

have that kind of money. But, whoever the guy's got money,

1:07:07

I'm not one of them. I

1:07:09

go out there and boots the boat with

1:07:12

what I got on and be

1:07:15

giver. Yeah, such

1:07:17

a good lot. But you spend time anywhere in

1:07:19

this forest. A week. And

1:07:22

they will come. Going back to

1:07:24

how you mentioned that you grew up around

1:07:27

the Indian culture, do

1:07:30

you happen to remember any other stories

1:07:32

of Sasquatch that you would have heard

1:07:34

growing up that you can share? I

1:07:37

just remember the kids, the older guy

1:07:39

would say, they

1:07:41

would not sleep one

1:07:44

wall. They would sleep

1:07:46

in the middle of the floor, four or five kids.

1:07:48

That's what they were trying to get through. But,

1:07:51

when Morris McLean, there's no native

1:07:53

guy. He passed away many years

1:07:55

ago. He was a really good

1:07:58

friend of mine. When he was five. years

1:08:00

old. They used to boat

1:08:04

the kayak from Trondeco, Natchez,

1:08:06

and up to the

1:08:08

Old River. And they

1:08:10

would hike two days

1:08:12

in the Campbell River, which

1:08:15

is on the east side. It's an hour out

1:08:17

of the Old River if you drive. Now,

1:08:20

but they would hike it. It would

1:08:22

take them two days along the river trails, but

1:08:25

Morris would cry because

1:08:27

he would be so scared, because

1:08:29

they'd be camping in the Sasquatch area. And

1:08:32

the Sasquatchers knew it. And they

1:08:34

would leave gifts, bread, and

1:08:37

they would leave fish for them when

1:08:40

they would leave camp to the Sasquatchers.

1:08:42

And since we're not bugging them, this is what it

1:08:44

was. Don't come into camp and steal

1:08:46

our food. But Morris would cry

1:08:49

every time they'd spend the night in the

1:08:51

forest hiking on the way in

1:08:53

the Campbell River. They've been back here since

1:08:55

my 1900s, as much

1:08:58

as Harry's story. Yeah, there's

1:09:01

not many occurrences that happen

1:09:03

lately. I don't know what to say

1:09:05

anymore. I'm going to run you through.

1:09:08

Keith, I appreciate you chatting. I've got

1:09:10

a curveball question for you. The thing

1:09:12

I love about Canada is that up

1:09:15

there, there's plenty of these

1:09:17

stories about dinosaurs and things

1:09:19

seen prehistoric creatures. You've got

1:09:22

the Partridge Creek monster.

1:09:24

You've got the Nahanni

1:09:26

Valley, where supposedly

1:09:29

there's an undiscovered valley

1:09:32

of prehistoric creatures. You

1:09:35

hear stuff like that. Does that jog

1:09:37

your mind to any stories at all

1:09:39

that you've heard over the years? And

1:09:41

if not, don't worry about it. No,

1:09:45

not for prehistoric creatures.

1:09:47

But I've

1:09:49

been in some forest where you'd

1:09:52

expect to see some

1:09:54

kind of plant-eating creature. You

1:09:56

just expect this is a

1:09:58

dinosaur forest. I've been to

1:10:01

a few of them but no,

1:10:03

no dinosaurs are... We

1:10:06

did get one years ago, somebody did find

1:10:08

a big skeleton on one of the rivers

1:10:10

down the island. Oh

1:10:12

really? There was a real, yeah, some kind

1:10:14

of fish creature. Like the

1:10:17

walk-in monster, long neck, big

1:10:19

fins, big hump body,

1:10:22

look like Dino from Fred Flintstone.

1:10:25

Oh sure. With fin. Yep.

1:10:27

So it's up to creatures like that will sound on one

1:10:29

of the rivers on the island, you know,

1:10:32

120 feet long. But

1:10:35

that skeleton is on the island somewhere.

1:10:38

That's the only one I know of over here,

1:10:40

but yeah,

1:10:42

our bush is thick in areas that

1:10:46

are so full of cool plants. Keith,

1:10:48

one last question before I let

1:10:50

you go. Has there ever

1:10:52

been a time that you can think of

1:10:54

over the years of researching in the bush,

1:10:57

being out there for days at a time where

1:10:59

it was so

1:11:02

weird, something was

1:11:04

so off that you're like, I'd rather not be here

1:11:06

right now. You

1:11:09

just got the chills, anything like that. I

1:11:13

broke down, I was trying to head

1:11:15

to McCurry Creek, which is up

1:11:18

the inlet from Gold River, which

1:11:21

is a logging road that takes you right to the

1:11:23

ocean. And it's only

1:11:25

about three miles up from our

1:11:27

government war. But

1:11:29

you got to drive the logging road all the way

1:11:32

around, which takes about three hours to

1:11:34

get to the exact same place. I

1:11:36

broke down the cross ditch. I

1:11:39

hit it too hard, bust my Jeep, set

1:11:41

up a tent. My buddy went

1:11:44

and crashed in there. I spent

1:11:46

the night on a fire, sitting by a

1:11:48

fire. All night

1:11:50

behind me, I could hear

1:11:52

something throwing rocks at pebbles. Not

1:11:54

big ones, just little, you hear it on, hit the logging

1:11:57

road. But then you hear a snap.

1:12:00

I would sit down and break a branch after a week. Not

1:12:02

a big twig, but just some

1:12:04

like a side of a toothpick in

1:12:06

New York. And I turned

1:12:09

around and couldn't see anything. This

1:12:11

holy cow. That freaked me out.

1:12:14

That was a weird night. But

1:12:16

all night until dusk,

1:12:18

when I could see the silhouettes and

1:12:20

the trees and the mountains, it got

1:12:22

quiet. It left, whatever it

1:12:25

was. But it stayed there for about five hours,

1:12:27

dropping rocks on the road and

1:12:30

just breaking the branches. But

1:12:32

it never moved. It

1:12:34

stayed in that one place behind me. And

1:12:37

I never got the nerve to stand up.

1:12:39

I didn't have a flashlight because I

1:12:41

didn't have one. And wasn't expecting to

1:12:43

break down at 12 o'clock

1:12:46

at night. Yeah, that's the

1:12:48

only freaky thing I ever had where

1:12:50

I knew I shouldn't have been here. It

1:12:52

was like, I'm on my own, buddy's sleeping

1:12:54

in a tent. I'm sitting

1:12:56

out here. And that

1:12:58

was the only thing that got me was all

1:13:01

night. It would break a little branch and I'd turn my

1:13:03

head, but I couldn't see it. And

1:13:05

I'm sure you could see my silhouette and it

1:13:07

was just sitting there laughing at me. Oh man,

1:13:10

yeah. For about five hours, it just teased

1:13:12

me. That's funny. But for a while, it started

1:13:14

to freak me out because I wouldn't stop. Yeah.

1:13:17

That was the thing. And I would turn

1:13:20

around. I couldn't see any of the black,

1:13:22

pitch black in that forest on that

1:13:25

logging road. Very cool.

1:13:27

That's a cool story, Keith. I shouldn't be

1:13:29

here. Okay. I appreciate you

1:13:31

chatting with me tonight. Keep

1:13:34

me in mind if anything else weird happens in

1:13:36

the future, hit me up on Facebook, let me

1:13:38

know. Maybe we can get a new chat with

1:13:40

you in the future. Thanks so much for talking

1:13:42

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