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thank you, that's society. We've got the privilege

2:14

of talking to Dee tonight. Dee's a listener

2:16

from the great state of Oregon and he

2:18

has a few encounters to share. But how's

2:20

it going tonight, Dee? It's

2:23

going real good, Jeremiah. Awesome.

2:25

I'm excited to hear, I've

2:28

heard a little bit about what you've experienced,

2:30

but I'm going to go ahead and give

2:33

it right over to you and feel free

2:35

to share what you'd like about what you

2:37

experienced. Sure.

2:39

Well, I'd like

2:42

to start out and give a little background. I

2:44

grew up in Eastern

2:46

Oregon and I was

2:48

out in the woods a lot. My grandpa

2:51

was a logger and he buy

2:53

a hundred and fished with him and he took

2:55

me everywhere. I was out in the woods. And

2:59

with the experiences I had there, you know,

3:02

at that time, very little

3:04

known about Bigfoot,

3:06

but never experienced anything. I've

3:11

been around bears, cougars, you

3:13

name it. I've had cougars within five feet of

3:16

me. I've heard them scream. Bears

3:18

have been even closer. So

3:22

going into the

3:24

story, I wanted to bring

3:27

the same thing to my kids. Since I had

3:30

my son and I took him everywhere with me.

3:32

We were out in the woods a lot getting

3:34

wood. We were hunting, fishing. And

3:38

this one time, him and

3:41

I were

3:43

going to head out hunting. My

3:46

brother, oldest brother was going to bring

3:48

his fifth wheel up in the woods. And

3:50

we were going to use it. Well, my

3:52

son and I decided to go early.

3:56

So we went a day early

3:58

and we were just going to wait for my brother. Now,

4:00

I've been out in the woods before.

4:02

I've camped, I've dry camped, I've had

4:04

tents, I've slept in pickups and everything

4:06

else. So it

4:10

was nothing unusual if

4:12

Brother didn't show up or just stay out in

4:14

the woods. Well,

4:16

we got up there, started getting

4:19

dark. We were up

4:21

above Vlala. And

4:24

I told him, you know, let's

4:26

stop, let's build us a fire and

4:29

get something to eat. And

4:32

at the time, my son was pretty

4:34

close to 10 years old. He hadn't

4:37

quite, he was nine years and a month

4:39

to go. And

4:44

so we sat down, we found

4:47

a spot, it was a wide road. And

4:50

we pulled up in this clearing and we just kind

4:52

of parked and lit

4:54

us a fire and got out some stuff

4:58

to eat. We were eaten and

5:00

the forest, now what was weird,

5:03

when we were there, we had our fire going,

5:05

but it was just completely quiet the minute the

5:07

sun went down. Not

5:10

a sound. And

5:12

to me, that was strange because

5:14

I hadn't encountered much of

5:17

anything like that. So you hear something,

5:20

crickets or something, you just hear something,

5:22

it's just not that

5:24

quiet. So

5:27

we ate and we were talking and you

5:29

know, the son kept asking me, his uncle David

5:32

is going to show up and I said, well,

5:34

he'll show up when he gets here. It's no

5:36

big deal. And

5:39

we talked for a couple hours just

5:41

by the fire, chatting. Well

5:44

about 9 30 at a distance. Now

5:47

if I had to guess, I'd hate

5:50

to guess because there's lots of draws

5:52

around there and canyons and something can

5:54

sound far away and it's

5:57

not far away or you hear it and it

5:59

sounds like it's close, but it's far away.

6:02

It's just the way that the sound echoes

6:04

through those draws. And

6:08

we heard something, a scream. And I'll tell

6:10

you, once I heard a big screen, you

6:12

know, I said, that was it. That

6:14

was it. Yes. Oh

6:18

my goodness. Loud, but far away.

6:21

My son looks up at me with his big

6:23

eyes. He says, dad, what is

6:26

that? Ah,

6:28

so don't worry about it. Just, I

6:30

don't know, animal holler. No big deal.

6:33

Now, if you kind of looked inside of me,

6:36

you would have seen me going, Oh man, what

6:38

is that? This is, this

6:40

is awesome and scary at the same time.

6:43

Cause you don't know what it is. I mean, it's

6:46

pure darkness around us. So

6:50

he kind of, he kind of says, Oh, I

6:53

said, this far away. Anyway, don't worry about it. No

6:56

big deal. So we

6:58

were, we were talking some more and

7:01

it was pretty close. And

7:04

the reason I know the times is I was waiting

7:06

for my brother. So I kept looking up my watch,

7:09

but about a half hour to an hour

7:11

later, somewhere in there, another

7:13

screen came and

7:16

it was just absolutely positive.

7:18

The same screen is the big foot

7:21

ones I've heard. And

7:23

I was just, and

7:26

he looked at me this time and he says,

7:28

dad, this is scaring me. I

7:31

said, don't worry about it. We're fine. I

7:33

mean, there's nothing out here going to get us. And

7:36

of course inside I was saying,

7:39

let's get closer. And

7:43

my first thought was, let's get

7:45

out of there. You know, I just,

7:47

something inside me just didn't want to stay.

7:50

And I thought now we got

7:53

to, gotta, we just gotta stay here

7:55

because I want to meet

7:58

my brother up there. And

8:01

it was 1130 because I looked

8:03

up my watch. It was 1130. And

8:08

that thing was right across

8:10

the road and it screamed.

8:14

And right now, even talking about it,

8:16

I get chills up my back. It

8:19

was horrendous. And

8:23

my son jumped out up and

8:25

he almost started crying. He

8:28

wanted to get in the truck. I says, well,

8:30

let's get in the truck and we'll drive down

8:32

to town. And you could hear

8:34

it rustling in the brush

8:36

a little bit, not real loud,

8:39

but rustling. But

8:41

that screen, I like

8:43

I said, I've been around cougar screens and

8:46

never ever have I had chills up

8:49

my spine like that. And

8:51

it was so loud. So

8:54

we got in the truck and

8:57

I started up the truck and

9:01

we made a loop

9:03

around to get turned around to go out

9:05

the road. Well,

9:09

the trees weren't that far away from the road. If I

9:11

had to say is about 50 yards,

9:14

but we turned around and

9:17

when our headlights came across that there was

9:19

hands and the top of a head. Looking

9:23

through a couple of the trees. It

9:27

was just, I

9:29

stopped for a second. Look, just cause I'm, I'm

9:32

not seeing this. Am I? And my son just

9:34

looked at me and says, dad, let's get out

9:36

of here. That thing's huge. He,

9:39

you saw the hands and

9:42

they had two trees split apart, two

9:44

smaller trees. They were pretty close to

9:49

when I stood under them. Cause we went up

9:51

the next day. But we, I stood under rivers

9:53

about, I was not even halfway.

9:55

So they were probably 10, 10 to 11.

10:00

feet tall, he had them spread apart, was

10:02

looking through them. And

10:04

then when we sat there for a few minutes,

10:07

the hands went back and the trees

10:09

were swaying and we got

10:11

out of there. And at

10:15

first I wanted to stay. I wanted to

10:17

see more, but then I thought for the

10:19

safety of my son, that's, you know, I

10:21

got to protect the kids more than anything.

10:24

And when it comes to wild animals, you don't really

10:26

know what they're going to do. Uh,

10:29

I don't trust

10:31

them. Don't trust wild animals whatsoever. Cause

10:34

they could be really good,

10:36

but then they can turn on you. So

10:39

anyway, we, he saw

10:41

that my son

10:43

had tears in his eyes cause he,

10:46

he was just, yeah,

10:48

I think he was going into shock myself.

10:52

And I, we got down to town and

10:55

down into the town and pulled off somewhere.

10:57

And you know, neither one

10:59

of us slept that night to wake up

11:01

the next morning to go hunt and then

11:05

my brother finally made it up and

11:07

we went back up in the woods

11:09

where we were camped and

11:12

like I said, I walked across the road and

11:15

stood by those trees that

11:18

were right next to the road

11:20

and I was a midget

11:22

to those trees. And

11:24

when I looked, I looked up to see how

11:26

high they were and the thing had to be

11:28

nine to 10 feet tall, if not a little

11:30

taller and

11:33

started scouring for tracks. And

11:37

there's, there

11:40

was the ground was real

11:42

hard, but the tall grass, the

11:45

only thing you could see was the pathway to

11:48

where it came in. And

11:50

I, I took

11:53

my son with me and

11:55

we tracked it. We

11:58

tracked the door. walking as far

12:00

as we could. And I'm no amateur tracking.

12:03

I'm not an expert, but I've tracked a

12:05

lot of game. And

12:08

we actually followed

12:10

it to where it went up over the hill

12:12

and then went down into this draw. And

12:17

we never found there was

12:19

never a good track. Like

12:22

I said, the ground was pretty hard, but

12:24

you can see the grass being laid over. And

12:28

the only reason I say I know

12:30

it was, it was a big foot

12:32

was because a grass

12:35

that was laid over was

12:37

huge compared to my foot.

12:42

I tried to show my son, I

12:44

said, see, you put your foot down.

12:46

And he says, well, yeah, but yours is

12:48

only half of what that one is. I

12:51

said, that's what I'm saying. I know what

12:53

we saw. And I know what we

12:55

were following. And

12:58

we tracked it down as far as I

13:00

wanted to go because it got real thick

13:04

and steep. And

13:06

you could, you could see through the

13:08

brush where the grass was, where it was laid

13:10

down, and you could see it where it went

13:12

down into the draw. Well,

13:15

the biggest thing about this was

13:18

number one, I wasn't looking for big foot.

13:20

And number two is it was the least

13:23

expected thing I would ever see.

13:26

There was

13:30

we weren't, we weren't, I

13:32

wasn't prepared to see it. As

13:35

far as like we're out hunting big foot,

13:37

we were out deer hunting are going to

13:39

be deer hunting the next day or two.

13:41

But and

13:44

I think that's what surprised me

13:46

the most. And in the

13:48

area that we saw it in, what was

13:50

it doing there? There's, there's

13:52

so many people out in the woods

13:54

at that time. And it was

13:58

just just a stranger. currents

14:02

and I know that he'll never forget it. And

14:04

that's, that's exactly never forget

14:07

it. That was the

14:09

hands. I saw

14:12

the fingers. I didn't see thumbs. I

14:14

just saw the fingers, hold the trees

14:16

back and looking through them. And

14:20

the hands were just huge were dark

14:22

colored, but had wrinkles

14:25

on the knuckles. Just like a

14:27

human and the top of the head

14:30

was covered with hair. It

14:32

was just hairy in it. Oh,

14:36

and the thing was just, I

14:39

can't imagine how tall it was because it, it

14:41

had to be 10, 11 feet tall. And

14:45

I was just, I was shook up, I think

14:47

just as much as my son, but I wasn't

14:49

showing him. I didn't want it.

14:52

I didn't want him scared of the woods is

14:54

the main thing. And that's

14:56

the last thing I wanted him to, to be scared

14:58

to go out in the woods. But,

15:02

uh, we, we followed it.

15:04

I looked for tracks, couldn't find anything,

15:06

uh, nothing tracked where you could

15:09

do any, any casts or anything.

15:12

But it had a big stride. Now this

15:14

is, like I said, with the grass laid

15:16

over, it

15:18

was just

15:21

almost three strides of bind, which

15:24

my stride is exactly three feet.

15:28

And so his stride was about

15:30

six foot, five foot, six foot

15:32

strides. And,

15:36

uh, that was,

15:38

that was always saw that whole time we

15:40

were up there. Cause I was hoping to

15:43

see it again, but never did. So

15:45

we're in Northeast Oregon

15:48

and did you say North

15:50

of Wallowa? Wallowa,

15:53

Wallowa, the city of Wallowa.

15:55

Yeah. Is this

15:57

like a wildlife area or a state? Parker?

16:02

No, there's a lot of federal force

16:04

service up there and it

16:06

used to be a lot of

16:08

it owned by Boise Cascade but

16:11

I think they sold it to

16:13

a land company Hancock or something but

16:16

it's it's mainly you know public

16:22

anybody in the public can get up in it yeah.

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I let people in the Later on. Retreat.

18:01

What You submitted an damn if the

18:04

out of a fair question as well

18:06

they can submit the question. Does chance

18:08

of my use it? So The Sky,

18:10

the patron ah he's got a question

18:12

and. It's it's a

18:14

good ones. What was your relation?

18:18

To the concept of Big Foot were

18:20

you a big for believer before this

18:22

event happens. I think I'd

18:24

put a curse word. I.

18:27

Was and was it. Parker,

18:30

I've got an open mind

18:32

or is dead. And

18:35

I first remember my grandpa how

18:37

they had any. Some

18:39

type of wildlife magazine where they

18:42

had there. Been

18:44

settled. From.

18:46

Mask cause I can't think of it now. Or.

18:49

They had a picture of for a

18:51

or Paris good ones film. About

18:54

beg for it. Why? Read the article

18:56

but it I look at program parsers I

18:58

grab a warrior. Growth rates are very low.

19:00

Pay for it. That's

19:02

all he said. But then. I.

19:04

Started learning more about it. As

19:07

I went along any the back then they didn't

19:09

have much on it was a few books out

19:11

there. And

19:14

of course it with a library. got a few

19:16

books. read about it. But.

19:18

Good through a way I looked at it was.

19:21

You. Know I got an open mind.

19:24

But. Until I see about gonna believe

19:27

it. For. Way. I

19:31

thought. I believe it.

19:33

So. I wasn't a fall believer,

19:35

but I was it. A tolls

19:37

get the either. And that

19:39

makes sense. Yeah, know that. it definitely

19:41

doesn't. This wasn't like you in your

19:43

son were like okay we're gone a

19:45

big so high, like you were just

19:47

trying to go out and enjoy nature

19:49

and just just happened to happen. And

19:53

that for all, think about it. And that's

19:55

why I think sometimes when. With.

19:57

Anybody, whether it be nearing that. He

19:59

also. I think when we go out

20:01

looking for Bigfoot, I

20:03

don't think you're gonna, I've not seen

20:05

one go out there looking for it. All

20:08

might have happened when I'm not

20:11

out there Bigfoot hunting. I'm just

20:14

out in the woods enjoying some

20:16

time. And

20:19

that's the thing that got me the

20:21

most because this wooded area I'm talking

20:23

about, I

20:26

started hunting and getting wood with my

20:28

grandpa when I was eight years old.

20:33

And I'd been through

20:35

all those woods with him. He logged them all.

20:37

So he took me everywhere up in there, all

20:40

over. There wasn't a bit

20:43

of that country I didn't see. And

20:47

I figured, well, it's too close to a town.

20:50

It's probably 30 miles

20:52

to the nearest town out of the

20:55

woods, but it's kind of close

20:57

to town. So you'd never see a Bigfoot out

20:59

here. That

21:01

was kind of my shot growing up. And

21:05

my visit started hunting at eight years old with

21:07

my grandpa and he put me out on walks

21:09

and said, walk down this hill and I'll meet

21:12

you down at the road, you know, type thing

21:14

where nowadays I

21:16

wouldn't let my kids do it because I'd be

21:18

too scared to get lost. But

21:23

it was not the perfect setting to

21:25

go find Bigfoot. We weren't 30 miles

21:27

or 40 miles back in the wilderness

21:30

where nobody goes. This

21:34

is where people are, which

21:37

really had me amazed at the

21:40

chance I had to see it. Oh,

21:47

absolutely. Man, I think

21:49

there's a chance your grandpa probably

21:51

saw something at one

21:53

time or another. I just have a feeling,

21:55

but I've got, you know, I'm just kind

21:58

of guessing. I'm

22:01

thinking he started logging out

22:03

in those woods in 1930 and got

22:05

his own logging company in

22:10

1941 and sold out in 1969. I

22:15

believe he was doing what I was doing to

22:18

myself. And I think he

22:21

was wanting to not make me

22:23

scared to go out in the woods. He

22:27

knew if I told him, yeah, you're a big foot

22:29

out there, they're big, you never

22:31

know what's going to happen, blah, blah, blah. You

22:34

know, eight years old or so, I would have been scared

22:36

to go out in the woods. I

22:39

was scared to death. Yeah.

22:43

He probably was doing something like

22:45

that. Yeah, I could

22:47

definitely see that. But what

22:49

year again was this that you and your

22:52

son had the experience? It

22:54

was 1997. Okay. Thinking

22:58

back to when you saw the

23:01

head and the fingers, did

23:04

you get a chance to

23:06

see like what kind of the shape

23:08

of the head was at all? Or do you

23:10

remember anything that you saw about the

23:12

head for details? The

23:15

head part I saw

23:17

was just covered with hair.

23:19

If I remember right, it had a little bit

23:21

of a cone shape, but it

23:23

wasn't prominent. You know, it wasn't like

23:25

a pyramid sitting on somebody's head, but

23:29

it was raised a little bit. But

23:33

like I said, with the hands, I

23:35

was concentrating on the hands because

23:38

I could see them just clear as day. I

23:41

mean, they were wrapped around the

23:43

tree pulling these two small trees apart.

23:45

I know it was looking over him,

23:48

but I just caught it when I came around

23:50

with the lights and stopped to where he had

23:52

enough time to put it up over his face.

23:56

But yeah, I didn't really, I

23:59

saw the hair. At what point maybe a

24:01

code say but I was looking at the hands because

24:03

they were just. Ride out

24:05

there the open. Wireless.

24:09

Screams the you said you've heard.

24:12

This. Is the her the screen Armed guards

24:14

are those Can you describe? You know

24:16

there's a few different you know we

24:18

hear the big foot sounds on the

24:20

different types of media. There's different types

24:22

is is there any way you can

24:24

kind of described maybe? what type of

24:26

screamers like? How of high oh how

24:28

older And he says that. Ah,

24:32

Ground turn recurring. It.

24:35

It kind of mehmet some

24:37

of those herbs. A couple

24:40

sounds on. I

24:42

like of finding Bigfoot that

24:44

they had can serve. That

24:47

we're. We're. Really

24:50

close aka. Dot.

24:52

Exact. but it was the

24:54

low tar earth. It

24:56

was. Higher than

24:58

lower than card a lower hi again

25:00

it was is kind of a. But.

25:04

It was good direction. That.

25:07

Good. Kill be cause usually Kyle,

25:10

you know Dell Dell how was

25:12

a few seconds. This.

25:15

Seemed like it was for about. Eight

25:17

to ten seconds And it was. It

25:19

was a loud scream. Loud.

25:22

And it didn't. And it wasn't like a cougar

25:24

screaming at her. And I've heard

25:27

them putting a times and was

25:29

nothing even close to the to

25:31

sort of a call of progress

25:33

too short of a call the

25:35

Mass this. All

25:39

I know is when it got across

25:41

the road next grade every hair on

25:43

my body stood up. It didn't say

25:45

to you but you are physically city

25:47

and. I'm just. Here

25:50

that screen.close. It

25:54

was awesome. It now I think it's awesome. Back

25:56

then I was scared to death but. Your

26:01

son is around thirty five right now.

26:03

I think if I do the math,

26:06

How did this affect him later in life

26:08

as an adult? If it did, You

26:12

know why it houses. Ah,

26:14

he does burst craft survival

26:17

things will go out. The

26:19

words. With is

26:21

nice and. And

26:24

of has it sometimes and just stay

26:26

for three or four days. Out the

26:28

words years Living off the landed? What's

26:30

there? To

26:33

the eight it didn't get sacked him. In

26:36

a way. In. Fact: I take

26:38

it made at the other way. Now

26:40

he's not afraid. And

26:43

he wants to fight it. Tight

26:45

brick. So.

26:48

It actually get good instead a

26:50

bad. That. Is

26:53

extremely interesting so add add that guess

26:55

he's probably out in Oregon doing his

26:57

thing. Bus crashed in out there. Yeah.

27:01

He he was a nurse southern Port

27:03

Organ. South

27:06

where he is he. he's actually I'd

27:08

actually you though thou it. I never

27:10

thought of it that way, but it's

27:12

kind of with the opposite way he's

27:14

He's not afraid of anything he just

27:16

he just wants to see it again.

27:18

He does files. I see it as

27:21

see it as Isis. Yeah, we all

27:23

will hopefully someday again. Both.

27:26

Sets: Really, really interesting.

27:30

If he ever does have any encounters, you

27:32

know a guy. keep me in mind for

27:34

sure. So.

27:42

Now. I. Will

27:44

I'll let you continue. with

27:47

what happened was next with solicitors or

27:50

pry like okay what happens next. How

27:53

nurses this was? This was awesome.

27:56

I mean is all that. It's

27:58

the seal occasions I've had. Burger.

28:02

It this is. This was incredible and

28:04

I was thrilled. About.

28:07

Now. Jump forward to two

28:10

thousand Seven. We

28:13

were. We the

28:15

size of a wife wanted to take

28:17

up some hadid slide tucker after, go

28:19

higher and. So

28:22

we get up their kids your

28:24

talents. As get all caps

28:26

said as and we have a.

28:29

We. Have a cab and ten. It's

28:32

ten by twelve as it's seven

28:34

and a half feet tall so

28:36

it is still that will stand

28:38

up at her chance. Everything. Sources

28:41

heard I had the dogs, so he

28:43

had. Think five dogs are

28:45

desperate for dogs at that time. And

28:48

they were for two hours. Believe it or

28:50

not, And. We

28:53

were. We got up there the

28:55

first night and. Eliza.

28:58

Said it it was again. Quiet.

29:02

Loses to force was too quiet

29:04

know coyotes don't doubt that. Kind

29:07

of strange, but oh well, we

29:09

just was. well underway. The

29:12

first night was since it's nothing.

29:16

Doesn't happen. Second, I

29:18

nothing happens. And.

29:20

Then the third guy. It. Was

29:22

quiet again. And.

29:26

We got then. Put. The

29:28

fire cut down with dinner. He

29:31

decided that well, stone go to bed.

29:35

And it was supposed to rain that

29:37

night. So we

29:39

took a tarp. And

29:42

waited over half the

29:44

tabs. On the

29:46

backside and. Half

29:48

way over the front so that we

29:50

can still get outta. The.

29:55

Front of the can't without Best went

29:57

to tarp. well

30:00

The wind blew the tarp off

30:03

the tent, of course, and this was later.

30:06

I was getting ready for bed, so I said,

30:08

oh well, if it rains, I guess we'll hope

30:10

the tent's waterproof, whatever. I'm tired.

30:14

But we were sitting there, and I was

30:16

getting ready for bed. And

30:20

on the tarp, you

30:23

heard a footstep, and

30:26

the tarp crinkled. And

30:29

then crinkled again, and

30:32

I'm going, I

30:34

looked at my visage, it would be real quiet. Something

30:38

out there. She

30:40

goes, oh, it's probably someone just messing around.

30:42

It's the cows, because there were some cows

30:45

around camp. And I said,

30:48

if a cow was stepping on that tarp, you'd

30:50

hear all four legs, you'd hear all

30:52

four feet. I've

30:54

been working on a cow ranch for a

30:56

while. You can

30:58

hear cows coming. I know their steps.

31:01

This is not a cow. So,

31:05

just sat real quiet, and

31:07

it kept coming around. It

31:10

kept coming around the side of the tent, real slow.

31:13

But you could hear it, and she, well, I said, this

31:15

is a bear, and I said, no, it's not a bear.

31:18

This is something else.

31:22

So, I just sat there. And as

31:26

I was listening, it

31:29

made its way around to the front of the

31:31

tent, which was kind of strange. And I thought,

31:33

well, my first thought was,

31:36

maybe someone's out there messing with us. And

31:40

I just stayed there and watched.

31:45

I did have a shotgun

31:48

in the tent with me, and I thought, well, I'll

31:51

just wait and see what's going on.

31:55

And it Kind of was

31:57

like those creep shows, like Baby's. What's

32:00

gonna happen? That's what's going on because you couldn't

32:02

walk all the way around on the front of

32:04

the tears. Said.

32:07

All the signs. Up

32:10

on. Care. Of the top of

32:12

the to.far from the shade or probably.

32:16

Maybe six to eight inches from the center.

32:19

You. Serious thing. Girl scratching

32:21

the cat. Like.

32:24

They're filled with it and you could see.

32:27

The. Singer of True. You know, not through

32:29

the chat but the way that out folds

32:31

You know what Chance does. nylon. And.

32:34

It was scratched the tears. Like

32:37

feel and subs are substance.

32:41

And I like supervisor since well

32:43

and also the ads or are

32:45

they go rak the shotgun and

32:48

I heard it run off. So.

32:52

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32:54

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34:33

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34:36

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34:38

saw was. No. Big deal,

34:41

has has no bothers. Bird flu season though.

34:43

was in a seizure. was because we've seen

34:45

above here before. Services.

34:48

That was a Allah says he owes

34:50

I'll pixel. So

34:52

the next morning. Though. We were

34:54

that are. We went out thought that

34:57

morning but came back early. And

35:00

of course how it works for

35:02

tracks as. I

35:04

did find salute. It was dusty

35:07

where we're at. I did see

35:09

some does Spurred attracted early days

35:11

out. Nothing. But baby a

35:13

heel track for being feel pretty part

35:15

of the heel. So.

35:17

That about okay. I've

35:20

I've gotta try this. I

35:22

went over to the tears. And.

35:26

Is that was somebody sager. They

35:28

had to be pretty tall. Cause

35:32

I both inside. nine. Fired.

35:35

Sand. And I couldn't

35:37

even hardly. Reach. Up over the

35:39

wow I could just reach over the heads of the

35:42

tent. Okay, that's far for the help

35:44

of the six ten foot. Cancelled

35:46

it like that. Cat is. And

35:49

it was reed halfway over six seven

35:51

for the high. Six.

35:53

Foot over. As.

35:57

I. say i grabbed stare to nice

36:00

now you get in the tent you look up so

36:02

I took a stick put it down

36:04

on there and moved it she goes that's not even close

36:06

to what it was and

36:08

so I tried different things to see you know if

36:11

I was to be at best with and

36:14

I couldn't I

36:18

couldn't do the same thing that that

36:20

we saw and

36:23

I told her I says you know this is

36:28

the same thing that

36:30

happened before the forest was quiet for

36:33

those three or four days the forest was just

36:35

dead quiet at night Bill

36:38

Kaios no nothing and

36:42

it's the same area and I

36:47

just come to the conclusion that that

36:51

it just happens when you least expect it because

36:55

that thinks what was the last

36:57

thing on my mind while we were up there but

37:00

what I heard it walk around that tent I

37:03

mean it's almost you you

37:07

could feel it but

37:09

you couldn't see it and you could hear it

37:11

and just the steps the

37:13

steps it was I like

37:15

it was sneaking up because

37:18

you could just hear it hit that thing

37:20

and to reach over across the top of

37:22

that tent there's no

37:24

way there's no way anybody could

37:26

have done that without falling

37:28

in on the tent even if they were standing

37:31

on something but

37:35

that was the that was the

37:37

second experience in the same

37:39

area just ten years later

37:41

D that is that is wild

37:44

good so after that

37:48

was that enough so you're like

37:50

I'm not going back there anymore

37:52

or is it a thing where

37:54

I might go back there again

37:56

someday no it came to the point

38:00

where it was, I'm going back there again. I

38:05

got excited that time. I got excited. I

38:07

just, I had the dogs and the wife

38:09

with me, but I was, I was

38:12

like, I'm not crazy. Okay. You

38:14

know, that was kind of my thing. It was like

38:17

in my own brain. It was, I'm not crazy. There

38:20

is actually something up here and it's

38:22

big foot. And

38:26

I want to see it again. Would

38:31

you go back there again for a third time?

38:34

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. To

38:37

have one more experience. I

38:41

think it would be worth it now. Do

38:43

I want to keep my distance? Yeah. I really,

38:45

I really don't want to come face to face

38:47

with her. You know, I mean, I

38:50

do and I don't. Like I

38:53

said, it's, it's an animal. You don't know what

38:55

might happen. I

38:59

like the distance, but I

39:02

am not afraid. I'm

39:05

more curious than afraid to see it again. I want

39:07

to see more of it. People

39:09

that have actually seen their faces,

39:12

that type of thing. I

39:15

I'd love to experience that part, but

39:20

it hasn't made me scared to go in, in the

39:22

woods at all. It's made

39:24

me more curious. Absolutely.

39:29

Would you be able to mark on a map,

39:31

the general area where this

39:33

happened? I feel like there's, there's gotta

39:35

be other people that have experienced stuff

39:37

in the same area. Oh

39:41

yeah. Yeah, I can't,

39:43

I mark it on the map and

39:45

send it to you. I

39:47

just, I have a feeling that would be, that

39:50

would be great. Scott's a

39:52

good guy. He's got a very similar way of

39:54

thinking as I do. So we're, we

39:56

both have the same question. Do you know if

39:58

there's been stories of. other

40:01

sightings or activity in that

40:03

area either prior to you

40:05

camping there afterwards? You

40:09

know I haven't heard of much activity

40:11

but I'll tell you people over there

40:13

really don't talk about it. If

40:23

they would people think they're crazy. It's the

40:25

old way of thinking. I think it's just

40:28

like my grandpa was. I mean

40:31

you know they just don't talk about those

40:33

things. You know you guys

40:35

are crazy blah blah blah. I

40:39

do know of a couple of

40:41

reports back then that happened

40:45

in the Minam Canyon which

40:47

is where those reports

40:50

took place that I could find

40:52

out or understand where they were

40:54

at was probably I don't

40:57

know maybe

41:01

50 to 20 miles away. So

41:06

I mean it's not

41:09

an outreach of them

41:11

moving that far. And

41:14

I'm kind of on the I don't know

41:16

my theory if I could say it is

41:20

that I think they move around.

41:22

I think they almost a small migration

41:24

not a I don't think they're going

41:26

from Alaska to California. I don't really

41:29

think you go that far but

41:31

I think they have their high ground and then

41:33

they have their low ground and

41:36

travel with the food. I

41:39

really believe and where

41:41

we camped at is kind

41:43

of the mid-range between high

41:46

and low. And

41:50

I kind of wondered if it wasn't

41:52

it was around in October early October

41:55

and I

41:59

almost I just wondered if they weren't starting to

42:02

move down from their high ranges. And

42:04

it was just kind of a migration

42:07

path. You know,

42:09

my theory. Were both

42:12

times in October? Yeah.

42:16

Yep. Because

42:19

I, I hunted in those woods, but also

42:21

by sudden I went up there and did

42:24

some hiking, we'd go up

42:26

there and just do some scouting around, just hike.

42:28

And never had,

42:31

never saw anything, never

42:33

had any interaction,

42:36

never felt anything. Cause sometimes if you get

42:38

out in the woods enough, you

42:42

kind of feel things. Uh,

42:44

you're all like, yeah, maybe we shouldn't go

42:46

down there. Or you just, you got a

42:48

gut feeling that maybe that's

42:51

not good place to go. Uh,

42:54

we hiked all over up there.

42:56

Never, I never got that feeling

42:58

of something's there or something, you

43:00

know, watching us or anything, but

43:05

that's what kind of amazed me. Cause I'd been

43:07

in the woods and been around those woods so

43:09

much and then have both

43:12

these things happened in

43:14

the same place. It

43:16

was, it was kind of, uh, shocking.

43:20

Cause the,

43:22

the, the

43:25

last thought in my mind, I'd

43:27

ever be able to have those

43:29

experiences that close

43:33

to where I was living. I was living in Legrand

43:36

at the time, but now

43:39

it's in my area. I don't have

43:41

to read books about it being in

43:43

Washington, California, and place else it's

43:46

right up there. And of course, as

43:49

my son got older, we'd go looking for

43:51

it, but we'd never, never

43:53

found anything. Oh,

43:56

so that, that is very interesting. So the

43:58

times that you weren't. looking,

44:02

but the times that you were,

44:05

that's very interesting. That's

44:09

why I've told some people that I've talked

44:11

to, they say, well, I want to find

44:13

Bigfoot, let's go Bigfoot. And I says, you'll

44:15

never find it. I

44:18

says, you need to go

44:20

into the places, not

44:22

expecting it, and not be

44:24

prepared for it. And I said, that's

44:26

when you see it. That's when it

44:29

all happens. And

44:33

that's what's happened every time. And

44:35

I saw now when I go out in the woods, I

44:39

hide the cameras and everything. So I'm not expected

44:41

to see Bigfoot, but I'm sure going to get

44:43

a picture of it this time. Yeah,

44:47

you see, you're good to go. You have

44:50

a camera with you and maybe even

44:52

audio recorder, who knows? Yeah.

44:55

Yeah, audio recorder. And

44:57

then what was it about? I

45:01

guess it's been 10 years, finally got night

45:03

vision. And so, and

45:06

that's been real handy. So

45:10

I'm not the richest feller.

45:12

I can't afford all

45:15

the fancy toys they have for Bigfoot

45:17

hunting. So yeah,

45:20

sub day, sub day I'll have them.

45:24

Well, it has been really,

45:26

really interesting chat about

45:29

an area I haven't really talked to

45:31

a lot of people about. So it'll

45:33

be interesting to see what comes of

45:35

this interview. And

45:39

you have, we talked a little bit earlier

45:41

today that you agreed

45:44

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45:46

And I'm going to talk about some

45:48

other subjects for the Patreon,

45:53

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45:55

it's kind of non Bigfoot related subjects,

45:57

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45:59

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46:01

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46:03

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