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0:14Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast.

0:23Another photograph that I'm doing a little voiceover of this image was shot on film, in heart mountain. Now heart mountain is a Yeah, an antelope refuge. That's also a huge mountain in a desolate, arid section of the high desert in Eastern Oregon, southeastern Oregon. And you know, thinking about this a little more, it's interesting about that Eastern Oregon landscape. Because now that we have states and borders, we have this conception that that's where the borders are, right, or that's where the lines of discernment are between one area and the other. And what's interesting to think about it in this section, it stretches out from Eastern Oregon into Idaho, takes up a lot of that North Eastern section of California, east of the Cascades, and then on into Nevada through that northern area. And if you think about it in the past, this used to be the territory, of the Northern Paiute, the Indian tribe that I think occupied a section of this area for a long time. It's very interesting, I'm not sure if it across cross-references to the same tribe, but there are petroglyphs up on Hart mountain near the location where this photograph was taken, which is from the Native American tribes that lived there hundreds of years ago now. So this image was taken right after sunset during blue hour, having one of the bright magenta clouds that passed up and stretched up above the desert landscape above me, I thought it was a cool photograph. And I appreciate these types of passing phenomena. So that's why I put it up

1:49you can see more of my work at Billy Newman photo comm you can check out some of my photo books on Amazon. And then you can look at Billy Newman under the author's section there and see some of the photo books on film on the desert, on surrealism, camping, and cool stuff over there. And I think I just been going through editing a handful of photographs and I want to talk about a few of the ideas that I had around that it was cool I was going through through an archive on a hard drive that I have for a bunch of the images from a lot of the camping that we did during September while we were out this this past year and it was cool working with with the newer Sony cameras like like I've talked about a handful of times on this podcast so far and and working by like traveling around and camping and stuff working on the track and all that so it was really cool but with a lot of these photos a handful of or you know in a waterways they really haven't been processed to to a final outcome yet so one thing that I was working on was trying to go through some of the photographs from imnaha Oregon and Emma How are I going to talk about on here a bit was that area that's east of of Joseph and enterprise Oregon as you get up toward Hell's Canyon, or Yeah, I guess up there like right on the Snake River and the Idaho border. And it's a cool spot it's a really interesting little town and the geography out there changes quite dramatically like right there out next to the Snake River and that next to all those hills and mountains that are over in that area, but it looks like it used to be way more full of water out there just the amount of erosion that he can you can see that seemed like it ran through there to create this giant gorgeous that we see now that's a lot of Earth movement that had happened out there. So it's a cool area out there. But once you get out to him now there are no services, there's no gas, there's no store I think there might be some type of thing if you could call ahead and knew what to call in the head for. But there's a road that cuts out up the m&r River Canyon where the river flows through. And then there's a road that cuts up and it would go out toward Hell's Canyon or a viewpoint at least have at the top of Hell's Canyon as you look down into the Snake River and the Oregon Idaho divide the cool area up there and worth the drive if you can get out there but at a certain point, there's a viewpoint that you're able to kind of walk out to the shows all of the imnaha Canyon and really interesting way just the angle of it. I think everything starts to line up nicely in that way and that's something I've tried to kind of look for us. I'll try to put together some photographs. So that area was cool. You know, it's designed to look beautiful, but I tried to get real low and bring in some of the contexts and texture the grass in this, this dry grassy field that the cats dressed off on a steep slope down the hillside is it went down to the bottom of the ravine or at the bottom of the canyon. You know the M the High River Canyon that's out there but the contours of the land And the distance that kind of all flowed into the same vanishing point as in how river you know sort of worked its way up back toward the horizon but really beautiful area up there and it was cool just sort of focusing the camera and trying to try to frame that up to sort of capture that immense pneus of edge to edge what it was light is sort of feel that the way that just the amount of angle there is to that and so one thing that I was working on with this photograph was an A handful of others from them Nairobi, Kenya was trying to try to work on some more advanced black and white conversions of these photographs. And I know there are different high-contrast filters and stuff for good, black-and-white images. And in a lot of ways, I help a ton of images, especially if they're shot right, or you know, cleanly with good light. Now you know, the files are clean, there's a huge amount you can do with that with things like that. But Gosh, yeah, just trying to like go through and add black and white conversions that are a little bit more specific, a little bit more adjusted to some of these photographs, especially ones that have like structural context to them or a compositional element, that's just defining the landscape by the structure of the land and by the angle of the land, I kind of like to try to mess with that a little bit. So it was a school working on it now like the way that it turned out it kind of pulls some of the yellow colors out of it, which is just almost sometimes distracting. And then the strips adapt to the kind of sharp angles that come in from the top of the frame to the bottom of the frame. These other sharp diagonals are kind of mashed up in parallel with the two so I kind of like that part of the composition elements that come about with when you're you start working on stuff when you kind of work

6:47or just when you kind of start getting a little bit more trained and stuff and when you're able to sort of things a little bit more easily that starts to come around a bit better. But yeah, what's cool is working tonight on a handful of photographs from them and how ruber came in and try and make some black-and-white conversions of them.

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7:47Yesterday I took off on a drive I went up the Mackenzie River and I'm trying to go up to a few spots and then develop more photographs just from that location. Or you know, try and try and work on some stuff there. And it was good though it was cool to get a couple of minutes to try and work on some longer photographs nothing stellar from that location. But part of what I'm noticing is you need more times in your life when you're up to bat or when you're there when you're at the place when you've added a day of work all that kind of to say the same thing, but when you're participating when you're out and doing it and I'm trying to develop that more where we're it's just oh, I was out taking photos four times today instead of one time, you know, this week or something. So I think it's just your personal ability to cultivate those situations where you get to take photographs, that's almost really what it seems to be to work as a photographer is to cultivate the next time you're going to be able to take photographs and to try and cultivate that in rapid succession so that you compound that and it makes efficiency or efficient use of your time. But I think about that a lot It was cool going up yesterday I was working with the Sony seminar stuff as much as I could and I was trying to work on some long exposure stuff sort of mapping or matching the, like the river and the rocks of the shore or some of the stuff on the far end of the lake that was kind of cool to sort of work with a little bit but I try I'm trying to work on a few of those a little slower tripod shots, let's say but some photographs where you're kind of getting into a situation that's a landscape and you're trying to be just a little bit more patient and try out a couple of different options and then you know to wait for the light to come in a little better. And that's a few more of the techniques in the fine art photography side that I like but I don't get to express or get into as much especially in the product photo side or the event photo side that I end up working in most of the time so it's cool that I've been pretty happy trying to get out and do some photo stuff and it was nice getting out and trying to put some stuff together for myself, but Let's get kind of working some of those ideas out I'm trying to take more photos of myself too, I noticed that as I go back through my library I just completed trying to cut down a lot of the photos over the last like 10 or 15 years or so into a collection and maybe some of the best and some of the best versions of the file itself to it seems almost like a silly idea. But what ends up happening is you end up losing over time the best RAW file that you have that image if you're not careful, right like if you edit the image or you resize the image for you know, that's the version that ends up going on social media a lot of the times this is an image that's smaller than three megabytes. And a lot of the time three megabytes is going to be a downsized compressed JPEG image that I put together. And over time what I've noticed is that a few of these pieces are maybe some of my favorite photographs the variation available that I can find right now that's this JPEG version. So I'm trying to go through and clean that stuff up and it seems like I've done a good bit of the start of that but the next part is produced it's getting out and trying and be in places to make photographs that are new for the year of 2018 I need to be producing the files and then getting that work product out I need to be able to you know, finish it, edit it and publish it in a way that's effective you know, if I'm going to bother to say that I'm a media creator or I'm a photographer or any of that stuff so so it's been good kind of getting out there's the McKenzie river drive there's been a couple of other deals like out to the Deschutes river I'll get into that on a podcast some stuff out on the coast that was cool some stuff that near the tulip farm in Woodburn, all that stuff starts to come together and I have a few ideas for the rest of April two that might involve that. But on the other news, I think I'm dropping Hootsuite, I've been working with Hootsuite for a couple of years. And I don't feel like I'm getting the value out of it that I need. It's costly is a big part of it, it. It's like a monthly bill, it's probably more than Netflix is a month but what I need to do is kind of transition over to what other ideas are out there for scheduling posts on some of these platforms. And I think that's what I'll be able to do in a pretty effective way is try and put a little bit more time into these platforms specifically to schedule out these posts for a business page or for whatever it is, but I think I can do that within Facebook uniquely. And I think I can do that from a few of these other platforms too. And I just don't use enough of the other features associated with Hootsuite to interact with my social demographic that much. I use the platform most of the time to do that. But Hootsuite is

12:39a mechanism I used to try and publish to multiple places at once and maybe now a couple of years later there are some alternatives or some competitors that offer some of the features that I was looking for when I first got into the Hootsuite pattern and stuff so it was cool to try for a while but really what I noticed overarching Lee is that if they haven't regenerated a lot of their interface. And so a lot of the things that were glitchy and buggy problems years ago when I started using it, they're still the same kind of glitchy buggy problems and really it's you know it's it's the location of the problem is always in the upload module which is really the only thing I use for the service so I just got smart and I decided to quit that and jump ship and go to some other service there's a few there's a free option Hootsuite maybe I'll continue to use that that that services three social media accounts is what it shows there's probably some other limitation to it and I know there's another service called buffer that I've used in the past and I think I might check them out again and see if there's an opportunity to to use that interface to do some buffer stuff here on out but but yeah, if anybody is super curious, that's how I sneak in some of the photo stuff that I try and put up on on social media across the board trying to make it a little easier on myself out of all these photos and I'm trying to organize them and then write captions for him in bulk and then put them up online if I can. But yeah, so it's going okay you know, it's always kind of a process trying to get some of the media stuff together. And really like I was talking about outside of media and YouTube channels and other things like that what I'm trying to focus on in 2018 is photographs, am I making photographs Am I getting to places to make photographs and my wrapped out in these other side responsibilities that aren't going to compound and benefit me when it comes back to my main goal here so I don't want to dilute myself in places where you know, I just can't be my back. There's an amount of diminishing return this seems to happen. So I've kind of thought about that a little bit but, but the need to make content and to make stuff and to produce I mean that's you know, that's what media creation is. So thanks a lot for checking out this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. Hope you guys check out some stuff on Billy Newman's photo comm a few new things up there some stuff on the homepage and some good links to other apps. sources, some links to books, and links to some podcasts like this blog posts are pretty cool. Yeah, check it out at Billy numina photo.com. Thanks for listening to this episode and the back end. Thank you next time