Ellen Bradley is a Lingít scientist and professional skier whose work brings Indigenous perspective to both climate science and the outdoor industry. We had the opportunity to sit down with Ellen to discuss her work, how skiing helps her connect with land and identity, the arc of western science, extractive tourism; what it is, the consequences, and what perpetuates it, how the skiing industry's approach to wild places is rooted in colonialism, the impacts of tourism, and how we have to have critical conversations about societal systems if we hope to make change.