Babe Fourteen is Patience Hodgson of the Aussie band The Grates. Patience's episode is split into two parts as we have over 2 hours of A+ content.In part one, we chat about her and her family’s mindful self isolation during the COVID-19 pandemic, her and her husband John’s lives post babies; how, for Patience, breastfeeding was a wonderful antidote to anxiety and the birth of her first daughter Soda.

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