In this episode of Black Arm of the Law Podcast, Dr. Rachelle Brackney interviews Carmen Best, the former chief of police in Seattle, Washington. They discuss Best's background, career, and the challenges she faced as a black woman in policing. Best shares her experiences in the military and how it shaped her leadership style. She also talks about her transition from the military to policing and the testing and training experiences she went through. The episode concludes with Best's emotional response to not being selected as the chief of police. Carmen discusses her experiences and leadership lessons during the COVID-19 pandemic and the George Floyd protests. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing misalignment of values and leaving when necessary. Best also highlights the need for nimble thinking and collaboration with unconventional partners during crises. She shares her strategies for coordinating the COVID-19 response and handling the occupation of the precinct. Best concludes by emphasizing the significance of being one's own mentor, ally, and sponsor.