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The name Sandra Douglas Morgan has
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long been a familiar one in the state of Nevada.
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In the past, she has served as chairwoman
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of the Nevada Gaming Control Board. As
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the chief regulator for Nevada's dominant billion
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dollar gaming industry, Sandra led
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the passage and implementation of
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cashlest wagering regulations, ensured
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that gaming licenses adopted policies
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prohibiting discrimination and harassment,
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and led a team of four hundred employees
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in five cities across the state of Nevada.
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Sandra also served as commissioner on
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the Nevada State Athletic Commission and
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was the first black city attorney in the state
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of Nevada when she was the chief legal
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officer for the City of North Las Vegas.
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As if this wasn't enough, Sandra was
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named president of the Las Vegas
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Raiders by owner Mark Davis in July
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of twenty twenty two, making her the first
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black female president in
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NFL history. And she is
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our guest today. This
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is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast
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and I'm your host, ramseys Jah
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and.
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I get to be the special guest host
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today and my name is q War.
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Indeed, thank you so much
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Q, by the way for setting this up. This is
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obviously very timely and very meaningful
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for Women's History Month, and
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obviously, Sandra Douglas
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Morgan, thank you so much for being on our show
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today. It is a
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joy to even hold this time and space
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with you.
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Thank you for having me rams this and Q, thanks
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for the invitation. Yeah, it's great to
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be here.
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Absolutely, I appreciate you saying that. So what
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we do around here is we start all of our stories
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at the beginning. So do
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us a bit of a favor. I know we touched on
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it a bit, but give us a bit about your background,
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the real background. You know, where
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you grew up, what influenced you. Just you
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know, whatever you're feel comfortable and goes as long and short as
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you want, but we want to know the
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story of what led you to this conversation
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today.
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Yeah, you know, I don't.
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It wasn't a something
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that I could say was planned or
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strategic or I had a goal of
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being an NFL president. That definitely wasn't the case.
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I'm definitely a child of Las Vegas. I grew up
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here, ended up my family ended
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up here because my father retired at Nellis Air Force
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Base, My mother worked in different kind of casinos,
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some on the strip, some off the strip when I was growing
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up, and a lot of people in the area that I grew up in,
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which is the East side of Las Vegas, so shout out to the
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east Side, you know, had a parent in
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the military and had you know, another parent in
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the gaming industry. It was not uncommon
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for that, especially when I was growing up in the in
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the early eighties, so you know, grew up there
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hard working parents definitely
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strussed the importance of education. My mom
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was my mom is Koreat American first
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generation and definitely said if you're not
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you know, don't focus on your education, you know,
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won't have the opportunities and
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experiences that you want to have. But they never made
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us feel like we were without and we weren't. You know, we were
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definitely working.
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Class, but definitely felt like the love and had
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everything we needed.
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So fast forward, I went to school and middle
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school, high school on the east Side. Knew
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I wanted didn't want to stay in town.
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I knew I wanted to go somewhere and
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ended up getting a scholarship the University of Nevada
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right now and just loans weren't
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even something that was part of.
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Our our vocabulary.
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I mean, I knew I was applying to different schools,
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but I just I definitely was impressed
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upon us to get a scholarship.
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My sistant went to Colorado State.
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I went to you and R and thought
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I was going to end up in California honestly for law school,
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because there wasn't an accredited law school here in
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Nevada when I was an undergrad. So I
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finished undergrad in nineteen ninety nine, and
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at that time there was actually
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a bill passed to get state
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funding for a law school. But I thought, I don't
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want to go to a new law school because if I go to a new
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law school and I graduate from there, I'll
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end up having to practice in the state of Nevada.
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Until the law school is accredited, you're limited
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to practicing law in that state. And
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lo and behold, unlv did
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actually worked wonders and became accredited within
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three years. So I was in the third graduating
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class of the law school. By the time I applied,
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they were provisionally accredited, and so I knew it was
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a little bit of a safety net that, Okay, even if I finished
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law school here, I could still go practice anywhere I
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wanted to go. And you
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know, I say in Nevada is home because I was educated
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on both sides of the state and I never
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left, you know. When I came back here, I went to law school
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at UNLV, ended up getting
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a job at a firm, went in house
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at MGM, which was an incredibly proud moment,
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I think, not just for myself just being kind of
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the first lawyer in my family, but for my mother.
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My mother worked you know, hourly
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different jobs at different casinos, and for
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now her daughter to actually be able to give
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legal advice to one of the largest gaming corporations
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was definitely a proud moment.
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And went to the public sector.
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After that, went to the City of North Las Vegas, went
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to AT and T, then was appointed
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to the Athletic Commission, which governs mixed
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martial arts and boxing. Was later appointed
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to the Gaming Commission and
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then became chair of the Gaming Control Board during
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you know, really critical time I think for the gaming
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industry.
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One we were.
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The only state for so long, or
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with a major state, that actually had sports betting. So when
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I was a commissioner, that's when the Supreme
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Court passed a repealed pass,
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but it's a law that basically limited
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professional sports and amateur
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sports kind of gambling to different only
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to Nevada and really Montana, small slice
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of it.
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And so once that.
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Law was repealed, states were allowed to pass
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their own sports betting statutes.
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And obviously you've seen the surge of that over the last
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goodness what four to five years. And so I was a commissioner
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during that time and then was the chair of the Game to Control
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Board. Unfortunately, during
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the pandemic, which was definitely a
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trying time, I know for many of us. With
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Nevada having an unemployment rate over thirty five
5:41
percent, it was definitely difficult for Nevadams as well.
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So I was lucky enough to come to
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Las Vegas last summer participated
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in a program called raiders Den where we
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worked with some high school kids at Allegiance
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Stadium, and the name that I heard
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the most was yours before we even had a chance
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to meet, because everyone wanted
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to press upon me how important that type
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of work was to you. So on,
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on the back of Black History Month and now
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Women's History Month, talk to us about
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the significance of being the first
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black female president of
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an NFL team.
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You know, I know it's important.
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I mean, I will tell you I have said this
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publicly and privately to my friends.
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You know, I knew that.
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I don't think I knew the gravity of it. I mean,
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and I say this in the most ways. I don't think the
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first is a success story.
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What success is not being a last? Right,
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So I knew I was the first. I figured it would
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get some attention, and I thought I'd go back to
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work and was admittedly
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very surprised
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and just a little bit shocked about the amount of attention.
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But it also made me realize that there are so many women,
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so many people right of different backgrounds
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that just want some visibility when it
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comes to sports because it is a small network, especially
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when you're talking about professional sports and then even the NFL,
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and you know, being from Las Vegas, this is my home.
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So I want, you know, to make sure that
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the Raiders are represented well, that we're doing the
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right things in the community. But being a black woman
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in this role, there's just been so
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many women, I mean, I'm at collegiate level, at amateur
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level and in professional levels and different leagues
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that have said, you know, we've been waiting for this moment,
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and I do think me being somewhat of an outsider
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obviously to the space because you know, Nevada
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has never really had professional sports before twenty seventeen,
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you know, really didn't understand the impact that
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this position and my appointment to this position would have.
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So I, you know, take this, you know, obviously,
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very seriously. I take leading a team
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regardless, you know, if it's the Raiders or anything else that I've
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done, very very seriously. But for this team
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and what it stands for, it's tremendous,
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rich history. And making sure that we're
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representing our team well, making sure that I'm representing
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the team well, and I'm representing you know, our community
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and.
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Our culture well is incredibly
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important.
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But it's you know, it hopefully
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shows, you know, people of all different
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backgrounds that anyone regardless
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that they look like, is able to lead if given the opportunity.
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You and I finally had the chance to connect
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super Bowl week, and I believe the
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first thing that I said to you was that I'm proud
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of you. I want to say that to
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you again now. Ramses and myself are
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very very proud of you. The work that
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you're doing the position that you're in because we understand
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that for you, that was not an easy path
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to tread and for you to get to where you are, you
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really had to excel and be
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better than your colleagues at almost every
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step. So you know, kudos from
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us. You know, you got a support system
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here if you ever need it. During
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the season this year, in an interim
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position, all of your leadership
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was black. I think your GM, your head coach,
8:39
and yourself and Antonio
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Pierce has since become the full time head
8:44
coach for the Raiders. Talk to us a little bit
8:46
about that moment and how that felt.
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It was incredible, and you know, when you're
8:50
going through that, especially having that change mid
8:52
season, so many
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plates are spending, you know, at the same time. And
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it was great when we were walking out
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to the game and we beat the Giants and it was
9:02
pre game and you know, there's so much stuff going on. We
9:04
have, you know, people on the field, we have different corporate
9:06
activations we have to make obviously, coaches getting
9:08
ready and focused on the team.
9:11
Champ Antonio Champ Kelly being
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there as well, and it was for I mean, you
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see the photos, but that was about not
9:17
even thirty seconds I want to say, fifteen seconds
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of photo. And we obviously
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we knew when you know, everything kind of
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happened around October thirty. October
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thirty first, I mean we've known each
9:28
other before then, you know, but for that moment,
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in that seconds, right on
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that field, it was like, oh, that's when it kind of I
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think hit you a little bit, but you
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know, an incredibly proud time. Both of those men
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are truly truly
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talented, experienced, smart capable
9:44
leaders, and I'm incredibly proud of
9:46
both of them, and to be even to be with them
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during that moment is something I definitely treasure
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and we'll never forget, and you
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know, definitely want to support ap on this journey. I think
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Entirerater Nation wants too as well. You've seen the
9:57
energy and the passion that he brings. There's definitely
9:59
an excitement you know in the building about
10:02
you know, actually going back to our I
10:04
shouldn't say going back to the roots, but just educating
10:07
people on what it means to be a Raider and for me
10:09
personally being again from Las Vegas, not and
10:11
having the Raiders move here.
10:13
Unfortunately during the pandemic, you know,
10:15
we're still newer to.
10:16
This market, so I'm
10:18
really excited for him and not only what he's going to do on
10:20
the field, but helping us off the field
10:22
on you know, understanding and growing
10:24
people's love and growing our fan base for
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the Raiders.
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We are here today with the President of
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the Las Vegas Raiders, Sandra
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Douglas Morgan. Okay,
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so I want to share
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a little bit with you about
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my experience. Q
10:49
invited me out to Allegiance
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Stadium in Vegas, and
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you know, I used to go to Vegas all the time. You know, I'm a DJ.
10:56
I'm an old DJ, So I used to go out there and DJ up
10:58
and down the Strip plan Hollywood and Rio
11:01
and all those places, right, And
11:06
then I went out to participate in
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the Raiders Den event
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that Q was putting on with Numia
11:12
Duncan Reed, who's also been on this show
11:15
as well, and I
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got a chance to like take Vegas in
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and asking, as someone
11:24
who grew up there, talk
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to us, well, just talk to us a bit about the city
11:28
of Las Vegas becoming a prime
11:31
destination for sports
11:34
as well as entertainment, because I've seen now
11:36
there's these stadiums everywhere and this
11:38
new energy that is in the city
11:41
and being someone that grew up there and
11:43
obviously being able to transition into
11:45
perhaps the most significant role out there. You
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know, talk to us a bit about what it's like seeing
11:51
the city evolve in that way.
11:54
Well, first of all, let me thank you both for participating in
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the raiders Den.
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I mean, that is what we are trying to do
11:59
in this commune, right, You're bringing the
12:01
community to the stadium, you
12:03
know, giving people access to the stadium who
12:05
may not have that access on a Saturday,
12:07
on a Sunday during a game, and giving
12:10
them the opportunity to pitch ideas and kind of bringing
12:12
out that entrepreneurial spirit which
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you know, our community traditionally just hasn't had access
12:16
to, right, being able to kind of create your
12:18
own, your own niche, your own wealth,
12:21
and not happening to be reliant on others. So kudos to
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both of you, and I really thank you guys for participating
12:25
in that.
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I'm just proud of the community.
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Again, and I grew up here, so obviously I'm biased,
12:30
but what you've seen is, you know, when I was
12:32
growing up here about four hundred thousand people and now we're
12:34
about two point three two point four million.
12:37
It's an incredible city.
12:38
I think of opportunity, right, you can come
12:40
here, you can come here, make a good living
12:43
and be able to ride for your family. We have
12:45
still relatively good cost of living obviously
12:47
that's increasing everywhere, a low tax
12:49
space.
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I sound like I'm pitching the statement.
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I'm not.
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Jo as to why people are coming
12:55
here, right, yea, you know they have access
12:57
they can have access to, you know, a good
13:00
stable education, a good job, and be able
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to revive for their family. Ten percent
13:04
of residents of Nevada,
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definitely Southern Nevada just moved
13:09
here.
13:09
Within the last couple of years. That's incredible,
13:12
right.
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And when you look at yes, gaming is
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a dominant, dominant factor in an industry
13:17
in the state, but there's so many leaders
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that have been here for decades that understand the
13:21
importance of diversifying that economy because
13:23
gaming is not just slot machines and table
13:25
games, although we have plenty of those here, and that's
13:28
want people to have a good time. The non
13:30
gaming revenue has exceeded gaming
13:32
revenue even within the casinos
13:35
for well over a decade. So things
13:37
like hospitality, dining, shows, entertainment,
13:40
different experiences, so Vegas
13:42
has grown, you know for that, and I think depth
13:44
there was a huge focus on that late nineties kind
13:47
of two thousands, and then in this last
13:49
you know, almost decade, maybe seven or so years,
13:51
so you've seen the you know, really
13:54
true explosion of sports with the Golden Nights
13:56
coming here and you know, them getting the Stanley
13:58
Cup within the.
13:58
First four years.
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You have the WNBA back
14:02
to back champions of the Las Vegas Aces, who
14:04
are kind of our neighbors down the street, and
14:06
you've just seen a growth in that. The thrill
14:09
though I haven't had a chance to go there yet, but it's the Volleyball
14:11
League obviously, Las Vegas Lights, Mine ear League
14:13
Soccer, Minor League baseball,
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and the Aviators that have been here for a while. And
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I think it shows that, you know, Las Vegas is
14:19
wanting to become a well rounded not just community,
14:22
but economy as well. And I think that's the excitement
14:24
of it all. You know, we have forty million
14:26
visitors. That's different from any other place.
14:29
But we have to be able to know that
14:31
this community of two million that is growing,
14:34
you know, can sustain you know, the growth that we're
14:36
having, and so far it's it's been
14:38
great.
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You know, you have impact in spaces
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where you don't even realize. Sandra, there's
14:44
a young lady who used to volunteer here in the city
14:47
with us for hashtag
14:49
lunch Bag. She helped us feed hundreds of thousands
14:51
of people over a ten
14:53
year span.
14:55
She is now the top.
14:58
High school female basketball player in
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the country, and you are one of her heroes.
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So I wanted to pass that on to you and
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follow that up with the question, if
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you had to pick a single piece of advice
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or just it doesn't have to be a single piece, but just
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some advice for young women like
15:16
her who look up to you. What
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would that advice be.
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That self you have to be confident.
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And I know that people say this a lot, but self
15:26
doubt can be your own worst enemy.
15:29
Are just
15:32
a state of the world.
15:33
Unfortunately, we have certain things stacked
15:35
against us, and we have certain challenges that we're going
15:37
to face that we could try to articulate
15:39
in words, and people will just never understand. You're
15:42
going to have enough of those challenges around you that you don't
15:44
have any control over. So what we can do is control
15:46
ourselves, our mind and have
15:48
confidence in ourselfs and we really
15:51
really need to focus on that. I think it's definitely more
15:53
of a struggle for women and
15:55
young girls, just because of the things that are constantly
15:57
being pushed at social and different things like that.
15:59
But I would say to be confident and just know that
16:01
self doubt can be a greater enemy
16:03
than any extra force or person
16:06
that we face.
16:08
You know what, I've
16:11
been listening to you talk, and this is even
16:15
more exciting than I thought it was going to be. You
16:17
know, we talked to exciting people quite
16:19
a bit. Very fortunate to be able to do that,
16:22
but rarely do we get
16:26
people who are as inspiring and
16:29
and as accomplished and in
16:32
such a meaningful way. I
16:35
say that to say that for
16:37
the entirety of this conversation, I think my
16:40
ears perked up when you said that you graduated
16:42
college in nineteen ninety nine, and I'm like, I don't
16:44
know how you pulled that off as
16:47
a twelve year old or whatever it
16:49
was. You know, I got.
16:52
Prodigy. I graduated college five years old.
16:54
It was incredible.
16:55
Well that's that, clearly, that's what happened. But
17:00
I don't imagine that you are
17:03
anywhere close to being done.
17:05
So for the people
17:07
that already know about you, and
17:10
for our listeners who are maybe just getting
17:12
familiar with everything that you've done and
17:14
everything that you're doing, the people that you are just now
17:16
inspiring. What
17:19
is it that we all can look forward to
17:22
that is next for you? Are you working on a
17:24
book? Are you wanting to grow
17:26
in this way, that way, elevate? You
17:29
know, tell us what's next for you.
17:30
You know, I'm focused on being a
17:32
Raid honestly right now, I'm going I'm entering into
17:34
my third season.
17:35
You know, I think we.
17:36
Always need to develop and grow
17:38
professionally and personally, and so
17:40
I'm focused on you know, I have a thirteen
17:43
year old and a seventeen year old teenagers,
17:47
love them exact, Hey that's going
17:49
on. I want to make sure that I'm supporting
17:51
them and that their cup is full, and that I'm
17:53
you know, trying to reinforce positivity and things
17:55
and making sure that you know that you
17:58
know, my husband and I are raising you know, good
18:01
kind you know individual So that's always
18:03
going to be my my goal personally and
18:05
professionally. You know, every year, even though I'm
18:07
going to say, hey, I'm the president, I want the team to be the best
18:09
we have to constantly look and adapt and see
18:12
how factors are things are changing. And
18:14
you know, I focus a lot internally on the first season,
18:16
making sure I got to know the people in this organization,
18:19
what it stood for, what we've meant, the history
18:21
in Oakland, the history in Los Angeles, and
18:23
so now it's about having and you know, motivating
18:26
obviously this our team here to go
18:28
out and hit every single space,
18:30
not just a Nevada but obviously internationally, and
18:33
making sure we're representing the Raiders in this in this very
18:35
strong international brand in the best way because
18:37
that will then you know, translate and help our football
18:39
team kind of get you know, obviously the best players
18:42
and being able to support them as well.
18:43
So that's what I'm focused on.
18:45
I really want to focus on the here and now,
18:47
and I do think when you do that and you give your best
18:49
effort, that things later will
18:52
will present themselves. And that's how I've
18:54
operated, you know, I mean, you definitely want to look ahead,
18:56
and there's definitely a lot of goals and things that I that I want
18:58
to strive to. But I think if you're do well and treat
19:00
people well in the position you're in now, that's what's
19:02
going to open doors for you in the future.
19:03
I think that is a
19:06
fantastic response. So
19:09
let's let's lean into that just a bit more before we
19:11
let you go. For folks that want
19:13
to, you know, tap in, maybe
19:16
watch your story unfold, are
19:18
their website, social media, anything like
19:20
that that we can provide for our
19:22
listeners so that they can bear witness
19:24
to this amazing journey that you're on.
19:26
You know, Ram, this is a thing that's a challenge
19:28
for me. I'm a pretty private person.
19:31
I have my Instagram is
19:33
private. I have a SDM raiders one that's
19:35
my that's my ex and my Instagram
19:38
handle. Okay, and
19:40
uh, you know, I guess
19:43
raiders dot com as well. But I'm
19:45
still transitioning into being If you
19:47
look at all the positions I've had before this, it was pretty
19:49
you know, more behind the scenes. But I
19:51
do try to keep what's private private, and
19:53
I know that, you know, some of that's going to be
19:56
out of my control, but you
19:58
know, talking to you and talking to you
20:00
know, different organizations and things like that, I'm
20:02
always going to want to give back. I do think it's important obviously
20:04
to be present and inspire people, not just in Las
20:06
Vegas, but anywhere that I can.
20:08
But I don't have like a I don't
20:11
post a lot.
20:12
That's okay, that's all right.
20:13
Look, so you're not going to get a woe
20:15
by whoa my day, but I try to give snipitary
20:18
doubt there.
20:18
Okay, that's that.
20:19
I'm sure that that's plenty. I know that there are a
20:21
lot of young women and girls
20:24
that have been really
20:27
invested in the conversations that we've been
20:29
having this month, and you
20:32
know, for the people that really are inspired
20:34
and really feel like their future looks
20:37
could now look like your
20:39
present. You know, people
20:41
like you tend to lead pretty big footprints and they're
20:44
not always left on Instagram dot com.
20:46
And so you don't have to worry about whether or not
20:48
you post a lot. I think the headlines speak
20:50
volumes, and if you keep doing
20:53
what you're doing, I think you are lifting us
20:55
all up and we couldn't be more proud of you.
20:57
I'd like to thank you for taking the time to
20:59
come on today's show and talk with me. Obviously,
21:02
you and Q know each other, but
21:04
this is a very special moment for me and
21:06
all of us here at the Black Information Network,
21:08
So again, thank you very much. For
21:10
that once again. Today's guest is
21:13
the president of the Las Vegas Raiders
21:15
NFL football team, Sandra Douglas
21:18
Morgan.
21:19
Thanks for having me.
21:22
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21:24
Network. Today's show was produced by
21:26
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