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It's been another busy news week and we like

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to review the major stories of the week here on the

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Black Information Network. Today,

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we are joined by Black Information Network news anchors

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Mike Island and Nicole Deal to discuss

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this week's major stories.

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This is the Black.

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Information Network Daily Podcast and

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I am your host Ramses jaw All

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right, mister Mike Island, welcome back to the show.

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How have you been, sir?

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Ben fine, it's good to be back, all

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right, good to be back on the Ramses Jaw thing.

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All right, I'll take it man and Nicole Deal,

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okay, it wouldn't be the same without you.

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How have you been?

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I am doing wonderful, sir, and

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thank you. It's good to be bet.

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All right, way all right.

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So let's get to the news.

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First up, protests on college

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campuses around the country over the war between

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Israel and Palestine have thrown a prominent

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congresswoman woman and her college

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age daughter into the political spotlight.

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Nicole, let's start today's program with you. Tell us

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more about the folks involved in these protests than

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Mike will come to you to hear your thoughts.

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Next.

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Absolutely, Rams, So, war

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is raging right now between Israel

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and Gaza. We all know that, and these

1:07

pro Palestinian protests are breaking

1:09

out all over the country. They're

1:12

getting bigger, They're getting more riotous

1:14

every day, particularly on

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college campuses. So protests are

1:19

happening at some of the top Ivy League colleges

1:21

and universities around the country. That

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includes Harvard, Yale, Columbia,

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lots of others. Police right

1:28

now are trying to break up a tent protest

1:30

at the University of Southern California, Texas

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State troopers on horseback at

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the University of Texas at Austin, recent

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protests at the University of Minnesota where

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over one hundred students were arrested, and the list

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just goes on and on. The

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protests are creating lots of safety

1:45

concerns, resulting

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in things like canceled

1:50

classes and students being arrested,

1:52

things of that nature. So, just

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so our listeners understand, I want to talk a

1:57

little bit about why these people are protesting.

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I mean, it's probably a given and a lot of people

2:01

already know, but Israel has military

2:03

operations in Gaza, so lots

2:05

of people are condemning and accusing

2:09

the Israeli government of violating international

2:11

law committing war crimes, etc.

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And just to put the situation in

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perspective, from

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October of last year up until

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now, there have been over thirty four

2:24

thousand Palestinians that have died

2:26

in this war. So the

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people that are protesting are pushing for

2:31

a ceasefire in Gaza or

2:33

just an end to this war altogether. So

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during a recent protest at the University of Minnesota,

2:40

Representative Ilhan Omar shows

2:43

up and speaks at one of

2:45

the rallies, and

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the timing of her doing that was just

2:49

a few days after her daughter was arrested

2:51

during an on campus protest at Columbia

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University in New York, and then

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later, according to her daughter, she was

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basically, quote unquote basically evicted

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after she was suspended. So

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for me, this all

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just boils down to an issue of

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free speech. Free

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speech is not always pretty,

3:15

and it's not always convenient. Sometimes

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the words are harsh, I mean, but

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in my opinion, we just have to stop censoring.

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And just because I

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don't agree with your ideology

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is if it's a peaceful protest,

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then why not. I think

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about all of the protests that happened during

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the Civil Rights movement those

3:39

days and those moments made

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us who we are today, and

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we had lots of people in the black community

3:46

standing up for things that they believed

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in. There's certainly still work

3:51

to be done, So I just I

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just think that if you have a right to your free

3:55

speech, if there's something that you feel

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so passionate about that

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you are willing to

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lose sleep over, be inconvenienced

4:04

over, miss meals over

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for back in the day, sit at a counter over,

4:11

sit out in the heat or the cold, in the rain

4:13

for hours and days. If you're willing

4:15

to do that, then it might just

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be something worth defending.

4:20

So why not?

4:21

Yeah, Mike, let's get your thoughts here too.

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This takes me back to nineteen seventy.

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I'm a mature individual, so I was around in

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nineteen seventy, but not old enough

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to be in high school or college, but as a kid

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becoming aware of college protests,

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and the wake up call for me

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was when they closed the Ohio State

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University, my old school. They

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closed it for two weeks due to protests

4:45

of the Vietnam War was

4:47

going on at that time, and the

4:50

protests and riots got up to a fever

4:53

pitch where it had to call in the Ohio National

4:55

Guard and eventually closed the school, which means

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they closed the university owned

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radio and television station as well. That's

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where I became aware because there was

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two weeks of no Sesame Street, so

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I knew something was up. So that's

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as a small kid, I investigated

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to find out why that was happening, and I

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became keenly aware of

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the Vietnam War, the protests

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on college campuses. I became

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a keenly aware of President Nixon's

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announcement on April thirtieth that they would

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bomb military targets at Cambodia,

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which would take out, of course, innocent

5:32

civilians. And fast

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forward to twenty twenty four, during

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the same week, this is the same week that

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that happened, the closing of the House State

5:42

University. We have protests

5:44

there right now and it's come to a

5:46

fever pitch. The High National Guard has

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not been called in. Local police and forces

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and other law enforcement are on the campus right

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now and it's start

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off very peaceful, but like

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Nicole said, that passion is

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overriding everything and they're

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willing to take some risks to

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express their views. And this freedom of expression.

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You know, it's it's interesting. I'm glad you shared that story.

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I went to college obviously, and I remember

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having a there was a speaker. I was

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in the auditorium. I was the president

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of the Black student Union, and

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so we had a lot of speakers come

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out to my college

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campus. I remember one of them suggested

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to us that we were the warrior class

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of our people. It was us at that

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in that age range, you know, the late

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teens, early twenties,

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we were the ones who could be the most visible

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out on the streets and

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could bring attention to issues.

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And so that kind of stayed with me. And I'm

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glad you shared your story. I think it reflects

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the sentiment of a tweet that I

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came across, and I want to share that.

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This is from a person named at

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Underscore Floodlight, and

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he says, a good law

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of history is that if you ever find

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yourself opposing a student movement

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while siding with the ruling class, you

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are wrong every single time,

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in every era, no matter

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the issue. Wow, and

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yeah, it's it's really powerful, right. And

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the truth is, when you look at it that way, it

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kind of makes sense, not only as

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our country had a tendency toward you

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know, a more progressive

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society. But really the barometer

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is really set by students on college

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campuses. You mentioned, you know, the Vietnam

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War. Ultimately, you know, we pulled

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out of that after losing, to

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be frank, and

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you know, that's not the only one. You know, we're talking about

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civil rights, We're talking about, you know, pretty

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much everything. And the one the one area

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where we can't really suggest

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that it was college campus based is

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with the George Floyd protests. But you know, we

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were all in the middle of COVID, but it

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was still colleged aged

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leaders that were organizing a

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lot of that that warrior class esque

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movement. And so I

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feel like people should really pay attention to what's happening

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on the college campuses, which are overwhelmingly

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in favor of the

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Palestinian plight. I

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think that you know, what we've seen

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is that Israel, the State of Israel,

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has gone after colleges

8:38

preemptively, but they've gone after the leadership,

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you know, and we've discussed a lot of you

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know, black leaders who have lost

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their positions at colleges as

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a result of pro

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Israeli intervention.

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But Palestine is in the hearts

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of the students, and indeed

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the masses global support has largely

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shifted away from Israel and largely and

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now in favor of the Palestinian plight

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globally because

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no one wants to see

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this many people die as a result

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of what they believe

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to be Israel's

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doing. You know, Israel packs all of these people

9:21

into what many consider to be an open air

9:23

prison and then is

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now able to bomb them without considering

9:28

the logistics of the predicament

9:30

that they put the people in. And

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so there are a lot of folks that look at this is like indiscriminate

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bombing. There are a lot of people who have you

9:38

know, paid with their lives, and you

9:40

know, the arguments that these

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people voted Hamas in doesn't

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hold up because most of the people who

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have lost their lives were not even old enough to

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vote in the last election. Last election took

9:52

place in two thousand and six, right,

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so there's lots of people who

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weren't able to vote. And then of those people

9:59

that voted, not all of them voted

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for Hamas in the first place, right, And

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so you know, you have to be obviously

10:05

a certain age to vote. So you're talking about people

10:07

born let's what's eighteen years prior to two

10:09

thousand and six. You know, there's

10:12

a good majority of the people who did not vote

10:14

for AMAS, and so these claims

10:17

that the State of Israel is making is it's

10:19

becoming very thin. And you

10:22

know, to be fair, I think you both mentioned

10:24

that there's two passionate sides.

10:27

You know, obviously Israel wants to get back

10:29

their hostages, and you know that place

10:31

to the heartstrings of a lot of pro Israel,

10:33

pro Israeli people. But I want

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to share something from the Hill that I think reflects

10:39

kind of a strange reality or strange

10:41

dichotomy that we're up against. This says the

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Biden administration denounced the protests

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as blatantly anti Semitic

10:50

Sunday and claim that they are encouraging

10:52

calls for violence, and

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the next paragraph says, a

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significant portion of the protesting students

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are Jewish, and protest

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groups have fought back against characterizations

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of their demonstrations as anti Semitic.

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And I think that that's critical here because

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one of the biggest things that pro Israeli

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folks have been able to say is that anybody

11:15

who stands to ask

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for a ceasefire or you know,

11:20

a free Palestine or a two state solution

11:23

or whatever. Somehow, on some

11:25

level they are anti Semitic. And

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for folks that are not familiar, anti

11:30

Semitism means you don't

11:32

like Jewish people, and

11:36

pro Palestine means you want

11:39

Palestine and Israel to live

11:42

in two separate you know,

11:44

under two separate governments, you

11:46

know, completely. And so

11:48

one of them were talking about a government, a very

11:51

specific government, and

11:53

one of them were talking about a faith that

11:55

extends to people in every corner of the globe.

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And those two things are not the same. So having

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a significant amount of Jewish protesters,

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and this is true on every campus, right, a significant

12:05

amount of people. I've met Jewish people who are like, man,

12:07

Israel is tripping, you know. But

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I think that taking all of these things together,

12:13

you start to understand what the students are

12:15

are talking about. And again, if history is any

12:17

indication, the students typically

12:19

are kind of on the cutting edge of the

12:22

next progressive turn

12:25

that we take as a society,

12:27

at least in this country, and i'd imagine globally

12:30

as well. So moving on next

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up in South Carolina, many people expected a guilty

12:35

verdict following a sentence that should have included

12:37

the electric chair, but that wasn't

12:39

the case when a white South Carolina DJ got

12:41

a reduced criminal sentence after pleading guilty

12:43

to sex trafficking seven hundred underage

12:46

black girls. Mike, this is definitely an

12:48

uncomfortable story. But let's get some details

12:50

on the case from you and then Nicole, we're going to get your thoughts

12:52

next.

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Yeah, definitely for me. I have a wife and

12:55

four daughters, so these types of

12:57

stories really hit a nerve.

12:59

With the story is if you haven't heard it, and

13:01

it's fairly new to me too. Jason

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Roger Pope is the guy's name. He's

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a DJ known as DJ Kidd, and

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he pleaded guilty of pleaded guilty

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to five counts of sex draffing, trafficking

13:13

of a minor and a

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bunch of other stuff, five counts

13:18

of criminal sexual conduct, three counts

13:20

of criminal sexual conduct last summer

13:22

and then you know,

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he pleads guilty

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and he also told

13:29

the court that he intentionally infected

13:32

one of the victims with HIV and

13:34

it's

13:36

a very uncomfortable story. He was sentenced to thirty

13:38

years in prison. Like you said, people

13:41

were expecting the electric chair, but

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he got thirty years in prison and

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it was suspended to nineteen years.

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Following his release from prison, he's

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going to be on sex offender probation

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for five years as a special

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sex offender. As a special

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sex offender, agents monitoring, they're going to

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watching, so he's going to

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be listed on the sex offender registry and

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all that. But most people

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think that he shouldn't even got that far. Seven hundred

14:09

underage black girls, and you

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know, the disparity is

14:13

too obvious when you think of other similar

14:16

stories and there have been involving

14:20

black people and the

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penalties have been harsh,

14:26

and this seems almost like even

14:28

though there are consequences, he is paying

14:30

that he pretty much left off the hook off

14:33

the hook on this. That's the overall

14:35

feeling, if you don't go into

14:37

the graphic details

14:40

of everything that took place, but

14:42

several of the victims, they

14:44

had statements presented by the court on how

14:46

this Defendi's actions affected

14:49

them and it was horrifying

14:51

for them. But despite that, they

14:53

are still going to have

14:56

this guy, you know, pretty

14:58

much alive and well and walking around and

15:00

what seems like is going to be in

15:02

little time. So yeah,

15:05

I talked about this with my with

15:07

my wife and four daughters. Once I

15:09

realized I was going to get this story, and

15:12

they said, well, I'm sure you're going to be real brief about

15:14

it. I say, yeah, but it's

15:17

it's it's crazy. It's the

15:20

disparity is what I'm looking

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at. If this were a black person

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who have who would have done this against

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seven hundred white girls

15:30

underage.

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Nicole, let's let's hear from you tube. Absolutely,

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But first of all, this man pleaded

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guilty. All right, let's

15:41

just start right there, so reduced

15:43

to nineteen years and

15:45

let's just be honest. With good behavior, he

15:48

will probably be out in

15:50

half that time. Okay, this

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is disturbing to me

15:56

on so many levels. So this

15:58

white man, who was at one

16:00

point believed to be a white supremacist

16:03

and who is HIV positive

16:07

decides to leave his side

16:09

of the tracks, and I'm saying

16:11

that as a euphemism and come into our

16:13

community and victimize,

16:16

and I'm using that word intentionally, hundreds,

16:20

not dozens, hundreds, victimize

16:22

hundreds of our young, black,

16:25

beautiful women. This man

16:28

demonstrated reckless, irresponsible,

16:31

demeaning, demoralizing, just

16:33

despicable moral

16:35

and ethical conduct for many, many,

16:37

years years and then he just

16:40

gets a slap on the wrist for it.

16:42

I just I couldn't believe it.

16:44

It is so heartbreaking, but it's also

16:47

insightful. I

16:49

think race is definitely a factor.

16:53

If this were a black man with the

16:55

same inclined hundreds

16:57

of little white girls, I

17:01

shudder to think about what

17:03

his fate would be. This

17:06

man is clearly a predator. He's

17:08

a pedophile. He intentionally

17:11

targeted black matter of fact,

17:13

in one of his own social media

17:15

posts, he wrote this. He writes, I'm

17:18

thirty six with six hundred

17:20

and ninety three bodies, all

17:22

black females. WBU,

17:25

what about you? I mean,

17:27

this is just This is an affront on

17:30

the black community. This is a despicable

17:33

travesty of justice. It is an absolute

17:35

disgrace that the punishment does not fit the

17:37

crime in this case. I also have

17:39

a daughter, like Mike said, I have a twenty

17:42

year old daughter, and if he had done this to my

17:44

daughter, I would have wanted

17:46

him to get nineteen years just

17:49

for her alone, just for

17:51

her or more. But

17:53

the fact that he victimized hundreds

17:55

of women and he gets

17:58

this slap on the wrist, in my opinion,

18:00

is just it's a disgrace to me.

18:03

Yeah, thank you, Nicole, what a

18:05

perspective, and thanks for going where I

18:08

didn't want to go, So thank you for bringing all.

18:10

That in sure.

18:11

And you know, the thing is, so

18:15

I saw his Instagram last night and I pulled

18:17

it up just now, and

18:22

you know, he has the sort of like a handwritten

18:25

letter, like most recent posts,

18:27

a handwritten letter where he's trying to plete

18:29

his case. And then prior

18:32

to that, he's got tons

18:34

of pictures with black women.

18:36

Most of them are celebrities, because I'm

18:40

assuming that he had some affiliation

18:43

with Atlantic or

18:46

somehow he was affiliated with some label

18:48

right and

18:52

had access to these artists. But if

18:54

you look through his social media,

18:57

you can see lots

18:59

of black women there, and it

19:01

makes it very real and

19:04

very vivid. And this

19:07

is a sad story. But I think that your point

19:09

is well made, Nicole, when you say

19:11

that if you turn the tables, make

19:14

this a black man and make the victims all white

19:16

women, he gets

19:18

the electric chair, or he's never seen

19:21

the light a day again, there's no you

19:23

know, you're out in nineteen years

19:25

or less with good behavior, and then you

19:27

have to register as a sex offender. I think

19:29

the term for his sex offender registry

19:31

was like five years or something like that, and after

19:34

that he doesn't have to register anymore, if

19:36

I remember correctly. I don't have my notes. Oh

19:38

that is correct, Yeah, that is okay, But

19:41

I remember seeing that, and so that it

19:43

just felt like, don't we have

19:45

more value than that? On

19:47

our women have more value than that. And when you look

19:49

at his social media, you know,

19:51

frame through the lens of the conversation, admittedly,

19:54

but when you look at a social media you.

19:56

Start to see.

19:59

How a person and can use black

20:02

culture, black women, whatever

20:04

to further whatever agenda was

20:06

that he had. And then hearing about the post that

20:08

you mentioned, Nicole, how he has hundreds

20:11

of bodies, what about you,

20:16

I'm assuming he's flaunting these

20:18

black women as sexual conquests. It

20:22

feels particularly gross.

20:25

So I'm sure there's

20:27

gonna be people waiting on him to get out there. So, oh

20:30

yeah, enough for that. Black

20:33

Information Network news anchors Mike Island

20:35

and Nicole Deal are here with us discussing this

20:37

week's major stories. All

20:40

right, next up, there's a lot

20:42

of battling happening. Be

20:44

honest, I'm not a big fan of that, but you know, what. While

20:47

Chris Brown is busy battle

20:49

rapping Quavo and Drake is using

20:51

AI to create dis tracks about

20:54

his former friend in rap star Rick Ross.

20:56

A new video for the rap song entitled

20:59

Black Maga was just released, and

21:01

it tout's rising support in the black community for

21:03

former President Donald Trump. Nicole, let's

21:05

come back to you on this story. Give us some context of this Black

21:07

Maga song and video, and

21:09

then Mike, we want.

21:10

You to wear next.

21:12

Okay. So I had never heard

21:14

of this particular rapper until until

21:17

I got to researching for

21:19

this story. So I'm gonna give you I did

21:21

have a chance to watch the video.

21:24

I submicked it through it, So

21:26

I'm gonna give you my real reaction to the song.

21:28

All Right, all right, y'all ready for it?

21:30

Are you already?

21:31

Three?

21:31

Let's get it?

21:37

Oh my gosh, I

21:39

gotta be honest. Okay,

21:41

the hook in this song is kind of catchy.

21:44

I'll give him that. So here's my

21:46

attempt at that. Donald

21:48

Trump. Yeah, that's my president, Donald

21:51

Trump. Yeah, that's my president.

21:53

So creative.

21:55

I wish you could see me kind of bouncing in my chair

21:57

and pumping my fists too while I'm doing it.

22:01

So it is a little bit catchy, but this

22:03

song actually just made me laugh.

22:05

Uh.

22:06

The song is by a rapper who refers to himself

22:08

as the black Donald Trump. The

22:11

video features images of lots

22:13

of past presidents who are also white,

22:16

and just like any other rap video,

22:18

there are plenty of girls that are dressed in very

22:20

little. They're bent over shaking their

22:23

rumps, and you know there's there's a Donald Trump

22:25

look alike in the video as well. One

22:29

of the lyrics in the song, though the lyrics

22:31

are you know, a little more directed

22:35

than that hook that I just talked about.

22:37

But one of the lyrics in the song even refers to Donald

22:40

Trump as the first black president,

22:44

which I find offensive,

22:48

and it goes on to say that former President Obama

22:50

did nothing for blacks while in office and

22:53

things of that nature. But just

22:55

as a whole, I can't

22:58

take it seriously. I think that

23:00

the maker of this song is

23:03

intelligent and creative enough to have

23:05

created a song that he knew what garnered

23:08

lots of attention in an election year

23:11

and therefore make some money. So

23:14

that's just really all it is for me.

23:17

I think it's an attention getter. I

23:20

think there's probably

23:22

more of a pronouncement that this person

23:25

is seeking dollars versus

23:27

really looking to gain any following

23:31

or votes or anything like that. I

23:34

don't think Donald Trump was featured

23:38

in the collaboration of this

23:40

whatsoever or anything like that, So

23:42

I think it was just done in justin and

23:44

fun, and I just found it to be hilarious. I'm

23:47

not taking it seriously.

23:48

Yeah, all right, Mike, let's get you away in

23:50

here.

23:51

Neither am I. All I can do is say,

23:53

I'm Casey Casem on American Top forty

23:55

and here's our new number one song, the

23:57

Black Bag of Song by the Blacknald

24:00

Trump on American.

24:03

Thank You.

24:04

You know the the

24:07

cole did the hook, right, Donald Trump, Yeah,

24:09

that's my president. Then it follows with Donald

24:11

Trump, the first black president, And

24:14

I'm thinking, without them even

24:16

explaining it, the first black president

24:19

is probably in reference to the

24:21

trial he's under. He's seen as a victim,

24:23

uh, going under the same type of prejudice

24:26

that black people experience

24:29

in the court system, and they think

24:31

that he's being victimized like a black

24:33

person in there. And I think that's part of what

24:36

the first black president means. But that hook

24:38

comes up a little too

24:40

often which means they don't have much

24:43

lyrical content, and beyond that, they

24:45

don't have much lyrical contact. That's why that

24:47

hook comes up too many times in the songs.

24:49

After a couple listens, you feel

24:52

you feel you've heard it a thousand times because

24:54

it's repeated so much and too often

24:56

there's nothing in between the refrain

24:59

that that of any substance.

25:02

They do throw the inWORD in there a couple of times to

25:04

blacken it up a little bit, you know, may

25:06

make it seem like a you know, a real

25:08

black video, but it's hilarious

25:10

and it's hard to take seriously.

25:13

I think it's it's not going to get much traction.

25:15

I think it's going to blow away here after

25:18

fifteen minutes will be good.

25:20

Yeah, it's Uh.

25:21

Can I say one more thing. I just

25:24

forgot to mention that there is a mention

25:26

in there about illegal immigration, and

25:29

so the lyric is basically

25:31

saying something about, you know, like people

25:34

in my country have to get in line behind

25:37

the illegal immigrants that are being brought

25:39

into the country. So I know illegal

25:41

immigration is a hot topic all over the country

25:43

right now, and so I just wanted to make sure that I mentioned.

25:46

That Okay, I'm

25:48

glad you did, because you know, there's

25:51

not a lot of substance, but there's enough to

25:53

get books like us talking about it. So it's

25:56

important that that is stated personally.

25:59

On the awful, it's terrible, it's not

26:01

worth listening. Don't give this person

26:03

the views. That's my personal opinion. I'm

26:07

not a fan of anybody who sells out as people, and

26:10

this is corny

26:13

on that front alone.

26:16

You know, the way the articles are written about

26:18

it is like, uh, you know, the video has

26:20

a bunch of African Americans and blacks

26:22

for Trump shirts

26:26

and it just is is again, it's

26:28

just selling out your people. There's nothing,

26:30

there's no polish,

26:34

there's no like you. You wouldn't expect

26:36

this to be on a on a on an album

26:38

like a like a real sincere work

26:41

from an artist. It's a cash

26:43

grab and it's

26:45

meant to get

26:48

people talking, and it paints us in a

26:50

in a you know, there's something to be said

26:52

about hip hop culture. You

26:55

know, women in the videos dancing and so forth,

26:57

you can you can see that type of

27:00

expressed you know in Africa,

27:02

you can see.

27:03

You know, there's there.

27:04

You can make that argument, certainly after

27:07

as long as hip hop has been around for fifty

27:09

years. You can make that argument when

27:12

you have something like this and you have the

27:15

dancing girls and the and you

27:18

know, all the the

27:21

the hip hop elements in there, just kind of as

27:23

ancillary elements so that you can get this

27:26

off. It really does look like selling

27:28

your people out. And you know, I don't have any

27:30

respect for anybody that does that. The

27:35

things that he did kind of bring up in the

27:37

song. You know, there there're you know,

27:39

arguments that are often made on Fox

27:41

News just to scare conservative

27:44

for white people. And

27:48

I'm not knocking conservatives, but there's a

27:50

certain like you know, the dog whistles

27:52

that come out. And

27:55

it's not to say that there's nothing to be said about illegal

27:57

immigration. It's not to say that there's nothing to be said

27:59

about you know, all these things. But you know, to pick

28:01

a line from the song, you know, he's talking

28:04

about the how

28:06

PPP fed the whole hood, right,

28:09

and he's somehow connecting that with Donald Trump,

28:12

like Donald Trump put that play together,

28:15

and that wasn't the Donald Trump play. Indeed,

28:17

Donald Trump slowed it down. I

28:20

remember it took us

28:22

an extra week or two to even get

28:24

the twelve hundred dollars checks because

28:26

Donald Trump wanted to make sure that his

28:28

name was on the checks

28:30

to bolster his chances of getting reelected.

28:33

That's not a person that puts the people first. That's

28:35

the person that puts himself first. I

28:38

just can't see anyone else doing that

28:41

right. And people ignore that

28:43

because their

28:45

whole stick is being contrarian.

28:49

Their whole stick is being super

28:51

duper woke and a free thinker, and

28:54

as a result, they ignore what's

28:56

right in front of us because they don't want to subscribe

28:59

to group think. When the truth is we can walk

29:01

outside and all of us say it's daylight,

29:03

They're the one person's going to say, well, maybe it's a nighttime,

29:06

just so that they can get the attention. And

29:08

that part feels like, Yo, you're selling the rest

29:10

of us out, which you found. I

29:13

want to add one last thing before we move on, just because

29:15

this is so frustrating for me when

29:19

we talk about the pandemic. You

29:22

know, I worked with the CDC for many years. I

29:26

supported their health initiatives in Maricopa County.

29:29

Doctor Taylor was a good friend of mine. She was a representative

29:32

of the CDC when I was working with the Americopa

29:34

County Department of Public Health as

29:37

a radio personality. They put me on the billboards

29:39

and whatever to help people go out and take

29:41

care of themselves.

29:42

Right. I

29:47

was very aware.

29:48

When Obama

29:51

was putting together, you know, or at the time

29:53

when Obama was office, there was a pandemic response

29:56

team within the CDC. And

29:58

I was very aware when Donald Trump

30:01

was going on his deregulation, you

30:04

know phase, when he was cutting

30:06

funds to this, that, and the other and deregulating

30:08

industries so that businesses quote unquote could

30:11

thrive. And

30:14

as a result of Donald Trump's deregulation, the

30:17

CDC pandemic Response team was

30:19

dismantled. And I remember reading that article.

30:22

And then years later, funnily enough,

30:24

a pandemic hits the world and guess

30:26

who's underprepared for it? United

30:29

States of America right now.

30:31

That deregulation also led to all

30:33

those trains getting derailed

30:36

and all those environmental disasters, which,

30:38

by the way, disproportionately affect

30:41

This deregulation that Donald Trump was on disproportionately

30:44

affects black and brown communities

30:46

around the country. For those that don't know,

30:48

look up a thing called environmental racism. You'll

30:50

see what I'm talking about. But it's these people,

30:53

these people, these black maga folks,

30:56

Donald Trump, that's my president type folks

30:59

that I ignore all of

31:01

the connective.

31:02

Tissue that puts us

31:05

in these

31:07

people's crosshirs.

31:08

They've been selling us out for decades and

31:11

they will ignore that and

31:14

be contrarian and make silly

31:17

songs like this.

31:17

So I'll leave it there.

31:19

So for our final story this week, as

31:21

most of America is getting ready to reflect on the four year

31:23

anniversary of the death of George Floyd, one woman directly

31:25

connected to the case is still fighting for a

31:27

different type of closure. Mike, why don't you share

31:29

with our listeners more about this story and then Nicole will get

31:32

your thoughts before we close out.

31:34

Well, she's still saying she wants

31:37

her property back. There's a lot

31:39

to it. Let's get into what happened

31:41

almost four years ago. We're

31:44

about a month away from that, the four year anniversary

31:46

of the death of George Floyd. A

31:51

lot of the things that happen back

31:53

then happened for fifteen minutes

31:56

the response to the death of George

31:58

Floyd Floyd. I remember the pledges

32:01

that happened from the big companies. I

32:03

also remember the

32:06

the protests that were going on in small

32:08

white towns in Ohio.

32:13

They were going on and we

32:15

got a lot of posts Facebook posts with nothing

32:18

but black on it. You

32:20

remember those, but the totally blacked

32:22

out Facebook posts, no message

32:25

on Yeah, you know all

32:27

of that, and all that quickly

32:30

expired. You know. None

32:33

of the pledges that the

32:35

companies made came to fruition.

32:39

None of that happened. It seemed like it all blew away

32:42

to the point where it's done. A three sixty five,

32:44

three sixty and it's

32:46

done. I'm waiting

32:49

for signs to come

32:51

up in May that wish George

32:53

Floyd a happy four years of sobriety

32:56

has gotten that bad but

32:59

in the but I just wanted to make sure I

33:01

got that in because I would probably not.

33:03

Talking about Sylvia Jacksons, she says

33:06

she has recurring nightmares after the

33:09

death of her friend George Floyd. He'd

33:12

come to me and say I'm okay. And she

33:14

was a real good friend, you know, And

33:16

she's still affected by this. The trials

33:19

went on and moved forward, and she says

33:21

it's hard to watch. She remained

33:23

a silent party. She didn't say anything

33:26

about anything during the judicial

33:29

process, and Floyd borrowed Jackson's

33:31

car on May twenty fifth, that's the day

33:34

of the incident, and she was

33:36

sitting in her blue two thousand and one Mercedes I think

33:38

it was, and when the

33:41

officers approached him on

33:43

Chicago Avenue. And four years

33:45

after that, she's still waiting for investigators

33:48

to return her vehicle. She just wants her property

33:50

back, was what she said. And she

33:52

said right now, all she can do is

33:54

hold on. So she is

33:57

traumatized by what happened four years ago,

33:59

yet from the

34:02

authorities, she wants her property

34:04

back.

34:06

She just wants it back. Yeah, Nicole's

34:08

good to your thoughts here.

34:10

Yeah, this poor woman. I

34:12

mean, the measure of patience

34:15

that she's displayed in this circumstance

34:17

is just remarkable. I

34:20

think that she could have gotten her car back long

34:23

before now, could have and should have, but

34:25

someone probably just dropped

34:27

the ball, perhaps an

34:29

entire department dropped the ball.

34:33

I also think it would have taken her even

34:35

longer to get it back if she hadn't stepped

34:37

up and started talking when she did

34:39

and involved some of the local news

34:42

outlets to kind of do a little investigation

34:44

and do some back leg work to bring

34:46

the issue to the forefront.

34:51

My question is it's really simple,

34:53

where is her lawyer now

34:55

and how is she going to be compensated?

34:58

I mean, she's been inconvenienced,

35:01

She's been without a vehicle for four years.

35:05

The vehicle that belongs to

35:07

her is now depreciated

35:09

in market value. She has not

35:11

had the use and the benefit of

35:13

the use of the vehicle for several years.

35:16

So my guess is that some

35:18

local attorney is going to hear

35:21

this story and they're going to eat this

35:23

up and they're going to get her some lawful

35:26

compensation or at least you know,

35:28

that's that's my hope. I feel really

35:30

bad for her, and like Mike

35:33

mentioned, I think the trauma associated

35:36

with all of this, and she sounded I

35:38

watched the video the news clips of her, and she

35:40

sounded like she really

35:42

considered George Floyd to be

35:44

a friend. And so I think

35:47

that's what kept her from going

35:49

public and saying anything and making an

35:51

issue out of anything, because she didn't

35:53

want to minimize their friendship into

35:56

something that was legalistic or making

35:58

it look like she was trying to cash in

36:01

on it. In some manner, But I

36:03

just feel really sorry for her. I'm

36:06

glad that she's finally getting some justice.

36:08

As a matter of fact, the last word

36:10

I heard on this story was that the age

36:12

in that state had had

36:15

sent out were approved

36:17

basically for her to get the vehicle back.

36:20

So I don't know if she's actually physically

36:22

in possession of the vehicle at this moment,

36:26

but I do know that the attorney general of

36:28

that state did issue the approval

36:30

saying give this woman back her vehicle,

36:32

but he also sent it over with a caveat,

36:35

like, well, no, this is not standard

36:37

protocol, but you know it's we

36:40

recognize it's been an incubu. Okay, yeah,

36:42

you can have it. So anyway, I just hope

36:44

I hope she gets a little more justice.

36:47

Sometimes in these human interest stories

36:49

and things of this nature, a local dealership

36:51

or somebody, you know, a GoFundMe or somebody

36:53

in the community might step up and say, hey,

36:56

you know what, let's let her trade this in on a

36:58

brand new one and pay the difference or something

37:00

like that. So hopefully it's just going to have a happy

37:02

ending.

37:03

Yeah, I think you.

37:04

Just gave them a good idea of somebody listening right now

37:06

is going to do that, So thank you.

37:07

Nim I hope so that would be

37:09

great.

37:10

And I think that this shows that, you know, really the police

37:12

are optimized to

37:17

harm rather than help,

37:21

and it would be really nice if

37:23

they were optimized to help us.

37:25

So especially victims.

37:27

So anyway, with that in mind, I'd like

37:29

to thank you about very much for your time and

37:31

your insight. As always, once again, Today's guest or

37:33

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