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All right, Amber Peyton, welcome

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back. How have you been.

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I've been good. How have you been.

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I've been fantastic. I'm very excited

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to cover the news over the weekend

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with you. So let's not keep the people waiting.

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Let's get right to it. All right, This from the bi In. A

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Democratic lawmaker in Maryland, says

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he misspoke when he used a racial slur

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during a House budget committee hearing. Maryland

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Representative David Trone, who is running for Senate,

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uttered the slur while discussing tax policy

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with Shlanda Young, the first black

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woman to serve as the director of the Office of

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Budget and Management. All Right, get

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ready, so I'm gonna say it.

1:01

Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm gonna say it. Quote.

1:03

So this Republican jigaboo. That

1:06

you know, it's the tax rate that's

1:08

stopping business investments. It's

1:10

just completely faulty by people who've never

1:12

run a business, unquote, Trone

1:14

said, per The Daily Beast, Trone

1:18

issued an apology for his comment on Thursday,

1:21

saying he quote misspoke in

1:23

a statement to The Washington Post quote

1:27

today, while attempting to use the word

1:29

bugaboo in a hearing,

1:32

I misspoke and mistakenly used a phrase

1:34

that is offensive. He goes

1:36

on to say, upon learning the meaning of the word,

1:38

I was deeply disappointed to have accidentally

1:40

used it, and I apologize. He

1:43

finishes by saying I should

1:45

never sorry. It should never be used

1:47

at any time, anywhere in any conversation.

1:50

I recognized it. As a white man, I have privilege,

1:53

and as an elected official, I have a responsibility

1:55

for the words I use, especially in the heat of the

1:57

moment, regardless of what I mean to

1:59

say, I shouldn't have used that language.

2:02

So first

2:06

off, let's get your take on.

2:07

This bugaboo

2:11

jigaboo.

2:12

I'm just trying to figure

2:14

out how we how we how

2:17

we misspoke? Right, and

2:20

then the word that you just so happened to use

2:22

is an offensive term towards life.

2:24

Yeah, oh yeah, very much.

2:25

So like that word is in the vocabulary.

2:28

That's not the first time that you've used that word

2:30

before. The other part

2:33

that he in his apology,

2:36

he says he recognized it as a white man

2:39

that he has privilege. Do you recognize

2:41

that that's it? That's not

2:43

a good thing, that shouldn't

2:45

be. That's

2:49

not when we say, you know, white privilege,

2:52

we're not saying that's not a compliment. But

2:54

he in his apology used

2:57

it as I know that I have this

3:00

wrong suit and I should have better represented myself.

3:02

That's not a strong suit.

3:04

You shouldn't have privilege as a white

3:06

man, or as a man, or

3:09

as a black man or no, we should all

3:11

just have

3:14

have privilege. You shouldn't whatever privilege

3:16

that you deserve, that you've earned.

3:18

So I think that.

3:21

I don't think it was I don't think it was a mistake.

3:24

I think he just didn't think people would catch it.

3:26

I don't think the apology was sincere because

3:28

I didn't see any sincerity in it. I

3:32

just I don't believe in coincidences. So

3:34

I don't think calling her a jigaboo

3:38

was an accident. I think you meant

3:40

it the first time.

3:41

Okay. Now, I'm really

3:44

glad that you said this, because

3:46

I think those things needed to be said.

3:50

I am going to mount a defense

3:53

for this man, Okay, And

3:55

it's going to sound like I'm disagreeing,

3:59

but I think

4:01

that this

4:04

is the right way to cover this story

4:07

journalistically speaking. And the reason

4:09

I say that is because I

4:12

have, and you know this, on

4:14

this show, I have tiptoed

4:18

around arguing

4:21

for the benefit of the doubt for a lot of black

4:23

people, a lot of black men who

4:26

have come under fire for this reason or that reason

4:28

or whatever. And I don't

4:30

love the judge, jury executioner

4:34

style of condemnation that happens

4:36

with the masses at large. You know what I mean,

4:39

Oh, you did this thing, maybe,

4:41

so you're canceled, right.

4:44

That is a very dangerous approach

4:46

to have because things are nuanced

4:48

and they require, you know whatever.

4:51

And this person right here, this

4:53

example, I think

4:55

it illustrates the fact that there might

4:57

be some nuance and some context in my

5:00

important So again, while

5:02

I'm inclined to agree with you, I'm

5:05

just doing this to practice

5:08

my getting my strength

5:10

and get my chops so that I can

5:13

mount these defenses dispassionately

5:17

and have them be fact

5:19

based and present

5:21

an alternative reality. So I want you to view

5:24

what I'm saying through that lens. Okay,

5:26

So first thing, jigaboo,

5:30

bugaboo. I

5:33

look this guy up. So

5:35

he's a Democrat and

5:39

the woman, the black woman

5:41

who was the person responsible

5:43

for the budget, is

5:45

a Republican. So

5:48

if there is any

5:53

satisfaction with the other person,

5:55

it could be. And based

5:58

on data that I've read in the past, asked,

6:01

we're more likely to have social

6:03

divisions along political lines

6:06

than even racial lines in this country,

6:08

right, So it's not unlikely that he's

6:11

upset with this woman simply because she's

6:13

a Republican and has a different set of values and she's

6:15

controlling the perspects. Right. So

6:17

that's line one of the defense. Obviously,

6:20

line to bugaboo, jigaboo, they

6:22

sound very similar, right. And

6:27

then I looked up his age. He's

6:29

sixty eight years old.

6:32

I looked up where he grew up. He grew up

6:35

in Pennsylvania, which isn't the South,

6:37

but he did grow up on a farm. Okay,

6:40

so you know rural America. So

6:42

you're right, that's exactly what I was

6:44

saying. When I was agreeing with you. That's not

6:46

the first time he's heard the word jigaboo.

6:50

Not the first time he's used the word jigaboo,

6:53

probably you know what I mean. But it's definitely not the first

6:55

time he's heard it. You know, I would have to guess

6:57

that he heard it at some point. Yes,

7:00

But sixty eight years old,

7:03

that means you've lived. Why

7:06

sometime may as well be seventy years old, which

7:08

is you know, sixty five is the cutoff for

7:10

people who we reckon senior

7:12

citizens. I think, or fifty five one one of

7:14

those ages. I'm not there yet, so couldn't

7:16

tell you exactly. But the fact is is

7:18

that this man is a senior citizen, has

7:21

been for years.

7:26

I know. I've heard

7:29

people misspeak all

7:31

the time my whole life. I heard people misspeak

7:33

when the word they're trying to use

7:35

is very different from

7:37

the word that they end up saying. You

7:40

know, my birth mother used to call me

7:43

Ramses because my brother's name is Emmanuel, and

7:46

she used to call him raht Emanuel. Right,

7:48

So she would misspeak all the time. Right, So

7:53

human beings have the capacity to misspeak. The

7:55

words sound very similar, and it

7:58

might be easy to confuse the two, right, But

8:02

the word bugaboo came out in

8:06

nineteen ninety nine with the Destiny's

8:08

Child song. Yes, And in

8:11

nineteen ninety nine, this guy was forty three

8:13

years old, so I'm about

8:16

I'm forty one. I'll be forty two in August,

8:18

so I'm right at that age. Now. I'm sure

8:20

I'm a lot cooler than this guy was. I'm a DJ,

8:23

I'm tapped into music. But bugaboo was a big song.

8:25

I remember that song, right, And

8:29

the purpose of the song was to say, you know you're bugging

8:32

me, you're bugging me all the time, you're bothering me or

8:34

whatever. Right, So if he mentions your going,

8:37

yeah, it fits in the context to

8:39

a person who is a little bit removed

8:41

from the culture at age forty three, and

8:44

that person's understanding of it. Right. And

8:47

then while I was doing

8:49

this research, I found out that this guy is

8:51

the guy behind Total Wine and more

8:55

right so that the company he started, the

8:57

company, he spent millions

8:59

of dollars on camp painting on democrat

9:01

principles, which are in alignment

9:03

with how black people vote

9:05

politically in this country. Right, So it's

9:08

hard to imagine

9:11

a judge, jury executioner

9:13

style of approach to this man

9:18

when what

9:20

he's pushing up against is conceivably

9:23

a Republican agenda, not a black woman

9:26

right. Final thing I'll say

9:29

is that you

9:31

might be right. He might very well

9:33

be flaunting the idea of I

9:35

have privilege, like it's a good

9:37

thing and I should use my privilege to

9:40

save everybody, right like the white savior

9:42

complex very well may be doing that. He

9:45

also, very well may not even know what

9:48

white savior complex is. He

9:50

might be the sort of person who is committed

9:52

to learning from his mistakes, acknowledging

9:55

them and asking for

9:57

forgiveness and trying to move forward. And

10:00

if we are choosing to

10:03

break down his explanation of what happened

10:06

and find those tenants,

10:09

I think that they might be here again. It

10:11

should never be used at any time, anywhere

10:14

in any conversation. I recognize

10:17

that as a white man, I have privilege, and

10:19

as an elected official, I have a responsibility

10:22

for the words I use, especially in the heat

10:24

of the moment. That's accepting responsibility regardless

10:27

of what I meant to say. I shouldn't have

10:29

used that language. That's an acknowledgment of what I should

10:31

not have done. Yes, he says

10:33

he was disappointed. Now back to

10:35

what you said. I don't disagree,

10:38

but how was my defense?

10:40

But and so your defense is good and you

10:43

make a good point. So you know, we do live in a world

10:45

of cancel culture. And if we keep canceling

10:47

people, we're not going to have anybody. I

10:49

mean, and I mean that in any in

10:52

any world, whether it's you know, with lawmakers,

10:54

whether it's with artists.

10:56

In the music industry, We're going to have no music. We're

10:58

going to have also

11:00

we.

11:00

Don't necessarily agree with because we have canceled

11:02

the people who have made mistakes and misspoke.

11:07

Let's say, he's.

11:08

Hard to say that it is, Yeah,

11:10

I get.

11:11

It, So I

11:13

and that that's a great point. Cancel

11:16

culture is uh not

11:19

a great thing in twenty twenty four. And it's it's very

11:22

it's it's it seems easy

11:25

to cancel people now,

11:28

like that's the first resolution, instead

11:30

of trying to understand them and doing your research

11:33

like you did, right.

11:34

And see, so this thing happens with a

11:37

lot of potential like

11:40

allies and potential allies,

11:43

and what happens is if we cancel

11:45

our allies, you know, because

11:47

they misspoke or something like that. Their

11:50

tendency to seek out a community

11:54

is very strong. It's it's innate in all human beings.

11:56

We want to belong to a community, right, So

11:58

they can't belong over here because

12:01

we've canceled them, and it's

12:03

not unreasonable to assume that eventually

12:05

they'll end up finding a place to belong over

12:07

there in the opposition. And

12:09

so not only do we lose allies, we fortify

12:12

the opposition. And so the benefit

12:14

of the doubt might be something worth

12:16

considering, not just when it comes to allies,

12:18

but when it comes to our own black people, when it comes

12:21

to canceling them out.

12:23

So all right, moving

12:25

on, speaking of the opposition, this

12:28

comes from beet dot com. Controversial

12:30

talking head Candice Owens joined

12:32

Charlemagne the God, DJ Nby and Jess Hilarious

12:34

one oh five point ones the Breakfast Club. Their

12:37

questions range from the political to the personal,

12:39

and when they asked Owens about her marriage to

12:41

a white man, she had a few interesting thoughts

12:44

to share. Owen said, quote, I think

12:46

it's the greatest thing ever when people come together

12:48

on the basis of who they love and get

12:50

married. I never thought of my husband as

12:52

a race I married the person it made the most

12:54

sense for me to marry. Unquote. Owens

12:57

talks about how brilliant her her

13:00

mind is and she needed a

13:02

partner who can handle that. Quote,

13:04

I have a mind that is just if

13:06

you even knew half the things I'm thinking about the

13:08

stuff I'm reading, just go, go

13:10

go all the time. It was difficult for me to find

13:13

a partner. There was a challenge to me, the challenge

13:15

that I needed, whether you want to say, an

13:17

academic challenge or whatever it is, with my same

13:19

interests. It just was, she

13:23

continued, quote people tend to marry their IQ.

13:25

I fell in love with my husband just because I think

13:28

he's one of the most brilliant people ever. Unquote.

13:30

Owen said there was no other person she could

13:33

have married because her husband can effortlessly

13:35

dive into any subject. Owen's

13:37

determined quote, I want every person to never

13:39

allow race to be a barrier to you finding

13:42

love. Unquote.

13:45

Contrary to popular beliefs, she's dated black men

13:47

before, she shared, quote, the media tries

13:49

to portray me as somebody who only liked white

13:51

guys. Actually, if you want to be honest,

13:54

I started off with a really strong Asian

13:56

kink in my life. I thought

13:58

I was going to marry an Asian man. My first boyfriend

14:01

was Japanese and my second was Korean. I

14:03

just really loved Asian man, all

14:05

right, So let's

14:08

get both barrels from you and pull

14:10

the trigger all the way back that.

14:12

Well, here's the thing.

14:14

And there's a lot about Cannus that we don't always agree

14:16

with, right, Okay, this is

14:18

not one of them,

14:21

not for me, I

14:24

now, and I will say this, and I watched that

14:26

whole interview. There is a lot about

14:28

Canvas that I do not agree

14:30

with. However, and I think I've

14:32

said this before, when it comes to who you love,

14:36

I do not judge if that

14:38

man is respecting her, if he is loving

14:40

her the way that she wants and needs to be loved,

14:42

if she feels like he is someone that

14:45

challenges her and makes her feel

14:47

heard, and that's what she wants in a

14:49

person. I don't care if this man is

14:51

white, purple green.

14:53

Sure, race doesn't

14:56

really come in. It doesn't.

14:58

That doesn't matter to me. You're your

15:02

I think that you just love who you love.

15:04

Sure, that's it. No, Now watch

15:06

this now, I

15:10

am the person that went up against

15:12

Candace Owns and Kanye West

15:14

right against. Yeah.

15:17

I remember Candace Owns and Kanye

15:19

West were wearing those white Lives Matter shirts.

15:22

You did, Yeah, they

15:24

were wearing those shirts, and we got the trademark

15:27

in that way. They couldn't couldn't sell those shirts.

15:29

Right. But I

15:32

had a very critical view of her then

15:34

and I have a very critical view of

15:36

her now. But I think there's something to be said

15:38

about you know, you're You're not wrong. You know, love

15:40

who you love, Love the person

15:43

that it makes the most sense to love.

15:45

Right, I'm not a believer in marriage

15:48

for me personally, I never will be. Don't try

15:50

to change my mind. But in terms of loving

15:52

not you don't try to chant I'm talking about now. You

15:55

can try all you what. I would

15:57

enjoy that actually, but you know, I

15:59

just anyway. So

16:04

when it comes to what she said

16:06

though about the IQ thing, it kind

16:08

of has a whiff of this

16:11

white man has the

16:14

type of IQ that I

16:16

cannot find among black

16:18

men. And I don't know that that's

16:20

what she meant, but the way it

16:22

reads was kind of like, I

16:24

have this brilliant mind and

16:27

I need a person with a strong IQ,

16:30

and this white man had that strong

16:32

IQ and I hadn't found that before,

16:35

And that part feels a little like, and

16:38

I know I'm quoting, and I'm indeed misquoting

16:40

her, but I

16:44

felt like that's what I took from it.

16:47

And that part again, even if

16:49

she didn't mean it, that feels a little like you

16:52

might want to restate that part or provide

16:54

some clarification there. But outside

16:56

of that, you know, really, you

16:59

know, no notes that I see

17:01

how outside of that, this

17:05

guy could make perfect sense for Candace

17:07

Owens. As we mentioned, people typically

17:10

politically will be

17:12

around someone that they're in alignment with.

17:14

You know, I agree with this person on a

17:17

lot of things, and as a result, we

17:19

have peace in our home. We're not arguing

17:21

about whether or not Black

17:23

Lives Matter was a good thing or a bad thing. Certainly

17:26

not in my house. Nobody argues that, you know what I'm saying.

17:29

Otherwise they're not in my house.

17:30

Right, I can see

17:32

that.

17:33

So anyway, it's

17:36

the thing is, I just don't think that beyond

17:38

this, Candice Owens deserves

17:41

really any praise. She's like kind of that broken

17:43

clock thing. You know, It's like, you know, everybody.

17:46

Yeah, agreed to make that

17:49

we don't. There's very this.

17:52

I can count on one hand how many times

17:54

she has said something where I

17:57

could say okay, but

18:00

it's it's really it's not

18:02

often. And I

18:05

told you the rest of this interview was it

18:07

was a no for me.

18:08

Yeah, it was a hard no for

18:10

me, And I feel like that's appropriate.

18:15

Yes, so.

18:20

Bin News anchor Amber Payton is

18:22

here with us discussing the weekends major stories.

18:28

All right, Next up from The Atlanta Black Star, the

18:31

white president of a historically black university

18:33

in Missouri, placed on leave amid claims

18:35

of harassment, will keep his job after an independent

18:38

investigation found no evidence he

18:40

bullied a black administrator who made the allegations

18:42

against him before she committed suicide

18:45

in January. Lincoln University president

18:47

John Moseley returned to work March fifteenth,

18:50

after he had been on paid leave since January

18:52

twelfth, following the death of Antoinette

18:54

Bonnie Kendya Bailey, who had

18:56

served under Moseley as the vice president

18:59

of student Affairs. Following the decision

19:01

to reinstate Moseley, Victor Paisley, the

19:03

president of the university's Board of curators, expressed

19:05

full support for him, but acknowledged the school's shortcomings

19:08

in handling employee relations, especially when

19:10

it comes to mental health. Quote. For

19:12

us, this report is not the end of a process,

19:14

but rather the beginning of one, Paisley wrote, affirming

19:17

conclusions in the report, goes

19:20

on to say, quote, none of its findings have led to

19:22

led the board to doubt President Moseley's ability

19:24

to lead the university, but this tragedy has

19:27

forced us to grapple more fully with issues facing

19:29

Lincoln and our individual students and employees,

19:31

ranging for mental health support to employee

19:34

work and relationships the

19:36

unquote. The forty nine year old Candia

19:39

Bailey took her own life on January eighth, just

19:41

days after she sent an email to the university's board

19:43

of curators and others accusing

19:45

Moseley of intimidation and mental

19:47

damage after she was on the job for

19:49

less than a year. Previously, the deceased

19:51

woman's mother, Veronica Candia, and

19:54

husband Anthony Bailey revealed that Moseley

19:56

terminated her employment. In the days leading up to

19:58

her death, Bailey

20:00

reportedly shared with friends and family

20:02

that her professional relationship with Mosley had deteriorated

20:05

and that she dreaded going to work. She

20:07

also told family members that she felt she was being

20:10

targeted because of her race, citing Moseley's

20:12

complete lack of support. Following

20:15

its closed door meeting on January twelfth, however,

20:17

the Board of Curators placed Moseley on

20:19

paid leave and hired an outside investigator to look

20:21

in Candya Baisley's claims and

20:23

to review the school's handling of personnel

20:25

issues. Quote Doctor Candia

20:28

Bailey's claims that she was bullied

20:30

by President Mosley were unsubstantiated,

20:32

specifically when directly asked. In the course

20:34

of this investigation, no witnesses

20:36

reported that they had ever witnessed President Moseley engaged

20:39

engaged in bullying, and all denied

20:41

ever having personally felt bullied by President

20:43

Moseley. The board said in its statement,

20:46

which was widely circulated on social

20:48

media, I'm almost done. Investigators

20:51

found that the university did not violate

20:53

the Americans with Disabilities Act by

20:55

not accommodating Candia Bailey's mental health

20:57

needs, noting that she was not eligible

21:00

for medically because she had not been at the

21:02

university for a full year. University

21:04

did respond appropriately to her

21:06

requests by allowing remote

21:08

work and the use of a crude leave. According

21:11

to the board's statements. The board's

21:13

decision didn't sit well with some

21:15

HBCU alumni, all right,

21:18

So that was a lot, but I wanted to make sure we told as much

21:20

of the story as we could. Obviously there's a lot more there,

21:22

and again you can read that at the

21:24

Atlanta Black Star. But that's

21:27

I needed to say that just so that everyone has all

21:29

the context necessary. So give

21:32

us your thoughts on this. I know you're familiar with the story too,

21:34

I am, but.

21:35

I'm so disturbed and disappointed

21:37

with the Board of Curators response. One

21:40

part particularly, they said that none

21:44

of the findings led to the board doubting

21:46

President Moseley's ability to leave the university.

21:48

This Candia

21:51

Bailey, this black woman, did not come

21:54

up with this email

21:57

of accusations. And they

22:00

weren't these feelings he's active. They didn't

22:02

come out of thin air.

22:04

Yeah.

22:04

Uh.

22:05

And I'm a little confused because in

22:07

a part of the Board of Curators response,

22:09

they are really taking all responsibility

22:12

off of the president,

22:15

right, but they're also saying we have to

22:17

do better at addressing

22:19

and protecting mental health, which one is it?

22:22

That's an interesting take. Yeah, because they did

22:24

talking out of both sides of her mouth now that.

22:26

You miss Yeah, So which one is it?

22:28

Which one are you? Are you believing her? Are you? Are

22:30

you believing the the people.

22:32

That are still here with us that can say, hey, no,

22:35

I didn't think that wasn't my experience with him.

22:37

I want to know who those people are, because

22:40

she can't, she said all she could say, because

22:42

now she's not here anymore.

22:44

Her last words.

22:45

She sent emails to her friends and her family,

22:47

She sent emails to her her

22:49

coworker. She she told you all what

22:51

she was experienced. She told you what she was experiencing

22:53

while she was still alive. So it's not like

22:55

you didn't have an opportunity to address

22:58

it. You just dis And

23:02

now I was easy to dismiss it because she's not here anymore.

23:05

I don't

23:07

have much else to add to

23:09

that, because I think that you

23:12

hit the nail on the head. But I

23:14

will add something that I'm sure that you'll appreciate.

23:18

It's a popular phrase these days.

23:21

Listen to black women, all

23:25

right. Our last story of the day, This

23:27

comes from The New York Post. A Detroit charter

23:30

school teacher, once named Teacher of the Month, claimed

23:32

she was fired because a parent complained over

23:34

her rap career, later filming

23:36

a music video with her students to announce

23:39

her forced departure. Dominique Brown,

23:41

who performs under the pseudonym Drippin'

23:43

Honey, was a US history teacher at

23:45

Taylor Preparatory High School in Metro

23:47

Detroit before she was fired earlier this month,

23:49

She revealed on social media, quote,

23:52

recently, I was forced to leave my position due to

23:54

me being a rapper. A

23:56

single parent's disapproval led

23:58

to my dismissal. This is

24:00

according to a post on Instagram. She also

24:02

revealed that the parent's complaint was submitted

24:05

anonymously in October after she released

24:07

her song Dripping one oh one, resulting

24:09

in several months of meetings with school administrators.

24:12

The first meeting, oh sorry. Quote. The first

24:15

meeting was with my dean and my principal

24:17

and they were just telling me, Hey, a parent

24:19

said they've seen your social media

24:22

and that you're a bad influence because you're a rapper.

24:24

This is what she told to w JBK.

24:26

She continued to meet with the officials amid

24:29

the parents' complaints, and Brown had to choose

24:31

between her day job or her rap career. Quote.

24:33

Five months later, meetings. After meetings defending

24:36

my involvement in the music industry, I was asked to erase

24:38

all my content. That's what I do. I

24:40

have to bet on myself because nobody will

24:42

if I don't. Brown and over a dozen

24:45

of her students filmed the music video as she remained

24:47

undeterred over the firing or the parent's

24:49

complaints. She said she filmed the video

24:51

on her last day in February. According to WDBJ

24:55

seven quote, my outside

24:57

life should not be grounds for termination

24:59

when it is not interfere with my ability to

25:01

fulfill my responsibilities as a teacher.

25:03

My dedication, professionalism, and passion

25:05

for education have always been on wavering,

25:08

regardless of any personal pursuits I

25:10

may have, she stated,

25:13

unquote. She stated sorry.

25:15

She started work at the charter school last August and was

25:17

named the school's teacher of the month

25:19

in December. The outlet reported a

25:21

quote, It's worth noting that when I was hired

25:23

as a teacher, my involvement in the music industry

25:25

and as a rapper did not hinder my candidacy.

25:28

I was judged based on my qualifications,

25:30

experience, and potential to positively

25:33

impact the lives of my students unquote.

25:36

She also claimed that if she were a bad teacher

25:38

that the school would have fired her immediately, stating

25:41

that the administrators weren't transparent enough

25:43

throughout the ordeal. So I

25:47

kind of liked this story, and I checked

25:49

out her music videos.

25:50

But it's the same.

25:52

Yeah, So so give us, give us

25:54

your thoughts. It's about you.

25:56

So I'll tell you my initial thought

25:58

and then my thought after the music video.

26:00

Okay, my initial thought was.

26:04

My initial thought was and I'm not a

26:06

parent, so my thought can only

26:08

go with so far. Right, But I

26:10

hear I have friends that are parents who

26:13

want the teachers to be more

26:15

engaged with the students.

26:17

That's how you're gonna be able to report with these students, because

26:20

their attention span is not always

26:22

there. Right. You cannot stand at

26:24

the front of a classroom for an hour and

26:26

read verbatim out of the textbook.

26:28

They're not going to listen to you.

26:30

Sometimes you have to get creative, and

26:32

sometimes the way to get creative, Yes, it is through

26:34

music.

26:35

That's how that's what they relate to. But

26:38

then I went to go look at the video and

26:42

audio.

26:43

Off, my first thought was, Oh, she's fully

26:45

closed and she's covered and I loved

26:47

that because she's around kids.

26:49

And then I listened to the words and

26:53

couldn't be my kid's teacher. That's

26:57

it. It was.

26:59

I can't because it's they

27:01

get enough of that as it is. I

27:04

think now I don't

27:06

necessarily know that she needed

27:10

to remove her platform

27:12

who she identifies as outside of

27:14

a teacher.

27:15

I don't think she should have had to remove that from social media.

27:18

I just don't think that her

27:20

outside life had a place

27:23

in the classroom with her students.

27:25

Okay, I'd go with that. Yeah, she shouldn't

27:27

have involved her her students.

27:30

Okay, And it feels a little more cleaner.

27:33

Yeah, it would have been. And

27:35

here's here's what I'll add to this before

27:37

we're done. I

27:40

understand and respect

27:42

that there is a certain archetype,

27:47

there's a platonic ideal, there is a framework,

27:49

there is a an example of

27:52

a teacher that we all have in our mind. You

27:55

know, a teacher is someone who has

27:58

morals, is composed,

28:01

is mild mannered, and

28:04

they live for the benefit of children.

28:07

And anything that they do that

28:09

exists outside of the scope of that is

28:13

shocking. We all clutch our pearls

28:15

that these are actual human beings.

28:18

Right. I remember seeing

28:21

a movie. It might have been this

28:25

was a nineties movie, if I had to guess,

28:27

But it was a football movie. So on

28:30

Friday Night Lights or whatever.

28:32

I don't know the name of the movie. It's a sports movie. I'm

28:34

not a sports guy, but it was a movie. And it had

28:37

the guy from Dawson's Creek. For fo folks

28:39

and old enough to remember that TV show. He was in the

28:41

movie and it was playing football. And

28:44

I know it wasn't any given Sunday, So don't if you're looking,

28:46

don't look up that one, because any given Sunday was a

28:49

black anyway.

28:53

So in the movie, the

28:56

teacher from the classroom was

28:59

an exotic dance sir, right, And

29:01

that's how she supplemented her income, you know,

29:03

because teachers salaries, they don't, you know whatever.

29:05

But had they not discovered that

29:07

she's fine? Right? So fast

29:10

forward all these years later, we

29:12

have conversations about teachers

29:14

who supplement their income using OnlyFans,

29:18

and then they lose their teaching job because

29:21

we want our teachers to

29:24

look a certain way, right, And I think that's a

29:27

very American, very Western

29:29

idea, and

29:32

that's not the that's not the worst thing in the world to want

29:34

that for your teachers, of your of

29:36

your students. But I don't. I think

29:38

we also ignore the reality that teaching, by

29:41

itself, it basically

29:43

condemns mostly

29:45

women, to lives that are very narrow

29:48

fiscally, and you

29:50

know, it's it's a life unless you

29:53

plan to live and die as a teacher.

29:55

It's devoid of really a lot of mobility,

29:58

you know what I mean, Like you can't really do too

30:00

much else with your life because of these constraints.

30:05

That's just where we are right now. So I'd

30:07

like to leave it right there. Thank you as always for your insight.

30:09

You're brilliant and this is always super

30:13

entertaining. I love having these conversations

30:15

with you once

30:17

again. Today's guest is BIN News

30:19

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