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It's been another busy news week and we like
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to review the major stories of the week here on the Black
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Information Network. Today we are
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joined by Black Information Network news anchors
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Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens to discuss
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this week's major stories. This
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is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast
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and now I'm your host, ramses Jah.
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All right, Vanessa Tyler, welcome back to
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the show. How have you been very good?
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Thank you, thank you for having us back past ticking.
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My man, Mike Stevens, welcome back. May tell
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me a little bit about what's going on.
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All that's good, Man's always our pleasure
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to be here with you.
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All right, all right, So we got some very
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important news to cover, a
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lot of it, if I'm honest, So let's
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get to it.
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First.
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Up, the tragedy
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that we are all now very familiar with was
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making headlines all this week after the horrific
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collapse of Baltimore's Francis
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Scott key Bridge. Vanessa, why don't
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you give us a quick summary of the story along
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with any recent updates,
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and then Mike will come to you for your thoughts.
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Well, the recovery operation continues and
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it has not been easy. In fact, it's
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dangerous, the water is cold
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and full of debris. At last
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check, they were able to recover two bodies.
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Those numbers, of course, are changing by
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the day hour. Workers
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that were submerged in a red
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pickup truck. Maybe they
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were trying to get away and
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then it just they couldn't we
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know that a fully loaded nine
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hundred and eighty four foot long carrier
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ship lost power and propulsion
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and ran smack dab into support
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pullers now reports at the
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time the bridge was built, of course,
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named after Francis Scott Key. Our
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history books tell us he wrote the star
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Spangled Banner. But when that bridge
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was built a night between like nineteen
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seventy two and nineteen seventy seven, it
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was not constructed to withstand such
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a hit. And of course there's
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a black governor there, the only one in America,
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Governor Moore and then black Mayor Baltimore
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Brandon Scott both there in charge,
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and there is a promise from the president
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to build back because the economy
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depends on it down.
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There, Mike,
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let's get your thoughts here.
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Well, two quick things, piggybacking
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off of what Vanessa mentioned.
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You know they have a black governor and
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black mayor there, and it
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was great to see them standing up and being
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able to answer the questions and handle
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whatever it is that they need to do. That
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has been one of the knocks against black
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politicians by some who
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say they, you know, they're not ready for that, or they are
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to this or to that. But here we see two
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black men standing up
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and handling their responsibilities.
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And nobody can imagine something like this would happen
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when you're sworn into office. I mean,
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who knew. It was great
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to see them doing what they
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need to do. And the other part of it too,
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I've thought about is the infrastructure.
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You know, people have kind of criticis sized
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President Biden for the infrastructure bill,
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you know, not really giving it its props, I think,
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but this is a reminder. This is not the
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first bridge collapse there has been. This is not
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the first rogue collapse. You know,
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there's a lot of things that need
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to be updated in the country, and I think his
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infrastructure plans have been helpful.
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Yeah, yeah, I think to your point,
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I was reading about the bridge and there
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is something like six hundred and fifteen
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thousand bridges and
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they're about maybe seventeen thousand
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that don't have a certain redundancy.
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I think that's the word that is
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helpful in situations like
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this one, and the Francis Scott Key Bridge
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is one of those seventeen thousand bridges
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that needs to be modernized
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and brought up to that
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standard so that things
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like this don't happen, because any
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loss of life is tragic. But when I found out
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that some
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of the all of the individuals
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that they are now attempting to recover,
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not rescue, were
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either migrants or from Mexico
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or Guatemala or wherever they were from,
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and they were road workers, and then indeed
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it'll be Latinos that will
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rebuild that bridge, my
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heart broke even more because you
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know, for those that know, you know, I'm based in Arizona,
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so a lot of the people that I
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protest with, a lot of the people that I
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you know, are fellow activists out
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here, are people that have
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to deal with the brunt of the
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modern day racism in this country,
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particularly racism to our brothers
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and sisters that lived
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here before this was the United States
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of America. As you know, Arizona was
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Mexico for but initially
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it was not America. But
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the people who are from Mexico
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or Mexican people who are Americans
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because the land had transferred,
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still deal with a lot of the racism
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that comes with the immigration debate and
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and all that sort of stuff. And to know how
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hard working these people are, you
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know, my heart goes out to that community, knowing that
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these men who were fathers, who were husbands,
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who were hard workers, they were good people,
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and they lost their lives and you
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know, I would call that in service to this country
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too. You know, the President himself said that the
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bridge was important to the economy,
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and so they're doing their job for this country
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the same as any of us. That
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was very, very hard to hear from me.
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And uh.
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Yeah, I uh, that's that's
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the part where I have the toughest part with it. So indeed,
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we do need to update our infrastructure. We do
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need to give you
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know, the president props where you know, credit where
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is due. I don't give them all all the credit he
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once, but I'll give them credit whords do absolutely And
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you know, we just need to
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round that last corner and hopefully avoid
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tragedies like this in the future. So moving
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on in Minnesota, a university
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scholarship created in honor of George Floyd
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for black students has spurred a federal
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civil rights lawsuit. So mich time,
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let's start with you, share some details
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about this case, and then Vanessa will follow with you.
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You know, this surprised me, but then again it didn't.
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I don't know if we I'm pretty sure we talked
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about it when it happened previously, when the President
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passed executive actions to help
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black farmers who had
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been discriminated against for years.
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And this was a summer Yeah, that's what we did.
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Yeah, and then the white
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farmers who felt this was racist
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or wanted money, they sued
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and so the black farmers didn't get the help. So
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this is another example, you know, a
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legal scholarship taking place at
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Minnesota's North Central University.
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It was named after George Floyd, and
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those who are assuing say this violates the
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Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four
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because it's only open to black students.
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So they're calling this discrimination
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or maybe reverse discrimination. But
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no, it seems like whenever there are
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opportunities or plans in place to
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help right the wrongs of the past,
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to make the playing feel equal, something
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will happen like this where
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there's pushback and oh, no, you
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know, we're that's not fair
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because you know, they're getting help and we're
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not. I don't know where,
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I don't know exactly how you fight that. Obviously
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it's going to end up in some sort of legal
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decision. But there are all kinds
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of scholarships
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and grants that are being offered
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specifically, say to black women
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or African Americans. Many companies
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offered, although they didn't all keep their promises,
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but you know, to help black
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folks out in different ways, and it just
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seems like there's so much pushback against
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that kind of a thing.
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The nessa let's hear from you.
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I totally agree with Mike. There is something
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insidious happening right now, and it's
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like a runaway train. They
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won't stop. There are
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those who feel so strongly in their bones that
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black people, despite the poverty of many,
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are getting an unfair advantage.
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Anything and everything must
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be eliminated. And yet this
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is another example. It
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started with, of course, what happened in
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the college admissions, and it will
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trickle down to every aspect
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of American life. So everything
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will have a fight, whether it's you
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know, getting black kids uniform
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on a youth Baseball
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league. You know, everything
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is going to be fought back at this point that
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it's out of the bag and they're going
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for it. And unfortunately they
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are winning in many, many instances
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and getting these things eliminated.
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Sure, you know, the the
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entity behind a lot of those
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attacks you're talking about is called the
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Equal Protection Project of
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the Legal Insurrection
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Foundation, headed
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by Cornell University clinical
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law professor William Jacobson. And
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you know what they do is they go after minority
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benefiting scholarships, they go
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after DEI programs.
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Things like this.
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These are the reverse
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racism folks, right, So
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obviously this the head of this, this William
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Jacobson is a white man.
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And their primary question, and
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Mike, I think that you were making this point. Their primary
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question is does it exclude
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white people? Their
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primary question is not does
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it provide equitable access
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to all people? Because those are two
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different questions, right, And
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I think that you know, when you ask the question what
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do we do about this? Where do we go from here? I
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think it's important for us to
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consider that once upon a time
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we fought for equal rights, We wanted
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equality in this country, because that was a
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very important, critical first step. We
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needed equal rights. But the
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goal of equal rights is equitable
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access. And so now
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that all things are equal, indeed
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we have white conservative law professors
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fighting for equal rights. Sure,
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you know, if we want to go back fifty years ago,
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which indeed is not two hundred
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and fifty years ago, right, but
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now we need to shift our focus to equity.
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And that's probably why there's such these
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pronounced attacks on diversity,
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equity and inclusion,
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because equity is a different word. And
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you know, Vanessa, I think you were making this point. You
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know, we
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ended up here really
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as a result of twenty
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sixteen for
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everyone that did not
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vote could not make it and
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the people that we all know that did not vote
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and could not make it. You
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know, Donald
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Trump famously won that election, and
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he got in there with his decidedly
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conservative agenda,
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deeply conservative agenda to take
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back the country from Obama
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and this new progressive direction
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that the country was heading in. And
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he wanted to be the hero of all of these
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reverse racism folks that crowd.
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You know, that's not the only hill they stand
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on, but you know that's one of their big
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ones.
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Right.
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So Donald Trump was in there being
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Donald Trump. He obviously
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elected way too many
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Supreme Court justices.
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All that feel the way that he feel.
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They were vetted, you know, so
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that they could affect
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these types of things for.
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Decades.
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And when people look back on the
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importance of elections and how elections
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don't affect them and you
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know, my life is the same every
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day who regardless of who sits in what office.
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I think that this shows
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just how important elections are now. I will
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say that for people that they
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cannot find a moral ground to
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vote for one candidate or another candidate,
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vote for the candidates that you can vote
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for, at least show up right and
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shape this reality and let your
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voices be heard. But you know, my
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voice, my vote is it only counts
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for one. So with a microphone and an
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audience, that's the best that I can do. It's
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a It's another thing also to point
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out that, and I say, you made this point
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that these people are I think the
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way they frame the problem is they look at
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themselves like, well,
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if I don't have access to it, then
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it's not it's not equal, right,
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So they look at themselves and they look at individuals,
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and they don't look at communities.
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They don't look at how systems
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affect people, right, And when you
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look at the numbers, the numbers
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say, well, this community does
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have access and is taking advantage of you
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know, this economy and
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this capitalistic model, and this
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other community is not. And
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for people on our side,
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we look at that and say, well, there are barriers. And
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for people on that side, they say, well,
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you're just lazy, you're not working hard enough, you're
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not smart enough, you're whatever, and whatever
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it is that they can do to dismiss that. Any
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any excuse is good enough except white
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supremacist systems, which
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you know, is something that they are
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intentionally turning a blind eye to. So
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they got all their ducks in a row to make these
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arguments. And if they have, you
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know, the the the courts
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ultimately in position
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to rule in their favor, then yeah, they can undo
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a lot of this stuff. They can do more than just take
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away abortion rights. They can take away quite
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a bit. But again, what
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we're looking at now is the progress of the that
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was made by our ancestors
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and some of the folks who are still with us,
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you know, in the sixties. So equal
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is not that's not Jim Crow.
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So you know, that's not nothing. So I don't
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want. I don't want it to be all bleak, but I do want
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to compel people to continue to vote and engage in
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our democracy. Black
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Information Network news anchors Vanessa Tyler
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and Mike Stevens are here with us discussing.
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This week's major stories. All
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right.
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Next up from Atlanta, Black District Attorney
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Fannie Willis survived an inquiry that
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would have seen her removed from her highly
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publicized election or inference case against
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former President Donald Trump. After
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a judge ruled that she can stay on the case.
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DA Willis had some choice words for Donald Trump
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as she discussed what's coming next
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in her case during a recent CNN interview. Vanessa,
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you're covering the story of the bi in, so tell us
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more about Fannie Willis's interview, and then Mike will hear
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from you next.
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Fulton County DA. Fannie Willis is
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a tough lady. Oh yeah, he gets
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it, honestly. If her father is a soldier,
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you saw that when he testified during the hearing
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on if she should be kicked off the case. But
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I do want to add something else. As we speak,
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there's a hearing going on. Trump
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teams trying to get the case thrown out.
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Will hear from the judge maybe later
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today or soon. But you
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know, of course they always tried to get the case
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thrown out, initially before case goes
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to trial, but that's happening now. But
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you know, the Trump team thought
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they were really stopping her by
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exposing her affair, and
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it appears and only toughened her resolve.
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Yeah, she was distracted, but
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she didn't make clear to CNN as you mentioned
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that her team was still working and
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they are.
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Ready to go.
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So you know she's gearing
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up. You know, he had the President
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on tape saying if you can just find me in
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this number of votes so to
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the Georgia Secretary of State. So
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you know, we'll see, we'll see what the judge rules
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in this instance. But you
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know they're trying right now to get
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this case thrown out and they will
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continue to try to get her kicked
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off.
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Fantastic, Mike. Let's get your thoughts.
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You know, Fannie Willis spits fire every
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time she talks publicly. I
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mean, there's no playing with her, and a
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lot of people are not comfortable with a strong
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black woman who is in a position of authority,
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who speaks well, who has her credentials
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and so forth. There are still some who say
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she probably should have made some
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different decisions in
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her life and how she's handled some of this.
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But regardless of that, the black
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prosecutor, the lead prosecutor
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that was on the case, has
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now resigned.
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She's still on the case. And as Vanessa
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said, she mentioned while all this stuff
17:32
was going on publicly waiting
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for the decisions, the hearings
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and so forth, that they've been continuing to work
17:38
behind the scenes and are
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progressing. So, you know, from
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right now it looks like this trinal is going to happen. When
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is not clear, but she says
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they're still getting their ducks in the row and they'll be ready.
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Yeah, yeah, she said famously, the
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train is coming. So and
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she said that they were, you know, as you mentioned, they've
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been working all through it, so that didn't it
18:00
was a distraction, but it didn't slow them down.
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And and you know, I.
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Like her kind of being at the helm of this despite
18:09
this, all this nonsense
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and noise surrounding her personal life.
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I kind of like her.
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She's
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tough. I think that's that's how you put it.
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She is, you
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know, she's not intimidated by him. And
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you know, I remember us talking about
18:27
this before that black
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women often come to the rescue of this country
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time and again, and you know,
18:34
at present I I'm
18:36
kind of proud of her. So so yeah, we'll
18:38
keep watching and keep you informed
18:40
as as the story continues to develop. But
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now for our final story,
18:45
and this story provides us with the
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following play on words, did he do
18:50
it? Or is he innocent? Actually,
18:52
there's a couple of plays on words. Now
18:54
there's a whole new phrase. You
18:58
know that people are rushing to trademark
19:01
surrounding this whole thing. But I won't
19:03
even get into that anyway. Rap mogul
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Sean Diddy Combs is back in the news this
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week, and this time it's Homeland Security
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that has him in their crosshairs. Mike, bring
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us up to speed with the latest on this story, and then Vanessa will
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come to you to close us out.
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Yeah, did he do it? Or did he not? There's
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a lot of layers to this, sure, So
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first of all, we want to say it clearly off the
19:25
top that did he and his lawyers have
19:28
denied all the allegations against him,
19:31
which include five lawsuits. In
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the most recent case, many
19:37
of us have seen the video now of these
19:41
not FBI agents, but federal
19:43
agents who were you know, of
19:45
course in fatigues and so forth, at
19:48
two of his home simultaneously
19:51
in Miami and Los Angeles.
19:53
Feeling not clear what
19:55
they were looking for, but we did see
19:57
them bringing some people out,
20:01
you know, arresting or
20:03
at least taking them out
20:05
in that sort of atmosphere.
20:07
They're wearing a full tactical gear. Guns
20:09
are drawn, and it
20:12
seems like that's when infuriated
20:14
did He the most that they
20:16
called gross overuse of military
20:18
level force in serving
20:22
search warrants. But that's the way they
20:24
do it, even when it's white collar crime
20:26
or Republican or democratic,
20:29
whoever it is. You know, they come out, they
20:31
don't play. They come out fully armed and
20:34
ready to go. And as Chris
20:36
Thompson, our producer, mentioned to me earlier,
20:38
when the Feds you
20:40
know, come out for that kind of a thing, they
20:42
have their things, they're ready to go. They've
20:45
already done the background, they know what they're
20:47
looking for and so forth. But
20:51
of course we'll see what happens with all of this. There
20:53
are all kinds of allegations that
20:57
did He sex trafficked they're
21:00
alleged sex with minors. And
21:02
this one is so significant
21:05
because he has been involved in some of the biggest music
21:07
stars over the years. Usher who
21:10
has said some wild things since all this happened,
21:13
Biggie, Mariah Carey, Mary J. Blige.
21:15
I mean, there's so many people that he's
21:17
been involved with over the years, and there's so many rumors.
21:20
The truth will come out, more details
21:22
will come out during this process,
21:26
but again that he says
21:28
they've done nothing wrong. It
21:31
should also be mentioned that the same
21:33
prosecutor who is
21:35
working on this case is the same one who came after
21:38
R. Kelly and Secure convictions.
21:41
That's the US attorney Damian Williams,
21:43
who is black, by the way. So
21:45
we're going to see what happens how this plays out
21:47
down the road. I think there's a lot of stuff
21:49
that people are speculated
21:51
about that's going to be uncovered.
21:55
Vanessa, let's get.
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You the way in.
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All I can say is people are coming out
22:00
of the woodwork every day.
22:02
There are stories from people who claim to either
22:05
saw the wild parties or
22:07
say they've been approached by the mogul
22:10
himself. I even read something where Uncle
22:12
Luke of Two Live Crew said
22:14
it was too wild for him to stick around
22:17
because the later it got, the wilder
22:19
things allegedly became. So
22:23
you know, of course there have been rumors for years,
22:25
and you know, if Wendy Williams
22:28
could tell it. Of course, she's got her own medical
22:31
health issues, severe health issues,
22:33
by the way, and of course we constantly
22:35
pray for her. But you know, she's
22:38
been talking about it for decades, the
22:41
situations with Puffy or Diddy.
22:44
So you know, when
22:47
you say that the prosecutor who involved
22:49
in R Kelly is on this case,
22:52
that doesn't sound very good because
22:54
right now R Kelly's under the jail.
22:57
So I don't know, you
22:59
know, we just have to wait and see. It's a shame.
23:02
You know, Puffy was extreme.
23:05
You know, he's from New York. I'm from Harlem, so
23:07
I mean he's you know, he was somebody
23:10
we were all proud of. But you
23:12
know, these allegations are just
23:14
just too much.
23:18
You know, I'm not gonna say too much
23:20
here. I
23:23
obviously, if there's any any
23:27
victims, then you know that's they
23:29
need to be centered and prioritized. But you
23:32
know, I'm Dave Chappelle
23:34
said it best. What is a black man without his paranoia
23:37
intact. Right, So
23:40
again I may see patterns where
23:43
they don't really exist. I might be
23:45
imagining things. But I just think it's interesting
23:47
that these
23:51
black men in recent years
23:53
have lived long careers,
23:57
and at the end of
23:59
the long rears they
24:02
end up the story
24:05
ends up getting chronicled about how they were
24:08
somehow sexual devians. And
24:10
that's not to say it's not true.
24:12
It's just.
24:14
Exactly yeah, but it's it's interesting
24:16
that it's it's just a long career and then
24:19
at the end of it then they you
24:21
know, it's that's that.
24:22
You know.
24:22
Again, I'm not trying to say it's not true. It's just you
24:25
know, I'm a pattern that
24:27
black man paranoia is starting.
24:28
To kick in. I'm like, eh, so it's
24:30
something else going on here that I'm missing, you know.
24:32
So anyway, they'll Cosby Simpson
24:34
Simmons in the ear they all have
24:37
issues right now.
24:38
Yeah, yeah, And then you know you mentioned
24:40
r.
24:40
Kelly and and again, like I'm saying,
24:42
I'm not trying to say that's not true. I'm just
24:44
trying to say, it's just interesting how it
24:47
almost seems like the same story playing
24:49
out over and over again. So that that part
24:51
feels a little unusual,
24:54
but sure. So
24:57
before we go, lastly, I
24:59
want to make sure that we take a moment to congratulate
25:01
you, Vanessa on the launch of your new podcast.
25:05
So you know I've listened
25:07
to a bit of it and I'm in love with it,
25:09
and I want you to take a few seconds
25:11
and share a quick overview
25:13
about your black Land podcast with our
25:15
listeners.
25:16
Oh, thank you very much. Ram says Blackland
25:19
is a big bouquet of black
25:22
life, the roses and the
25:24
thorns. I let people tell their stories
25:27
and we were talking about sex trafficking.
25:30
Tune in right now where I have a
25:32
compelling piece about
25:34
a black woman who has been trafficked, abused
25:37
and used in drugs, very
25:39
similar to what authorities are looking
25:41
at in the Combs case. You
25:44
have to really hear her story
25:46
up right now on black Land, and we have
25:48
a new episode up every week. Black
25:51
Life and the place where we occupy,
25:54
the land on which we stand,
25:57
Blackland.
25:59
It's fantastic and that is
26:01
a personal endorsement from
26:03
me. I, like
26:06
I said, I spent some time this week just
26:08
it's a newer show and I just it was
26:10
timely that I tapped in.
26:13
But once
26:15
I started listening, I'm like, Okay, I get it,
26:17
I get it. So so yeah, I wanted to make sure
26:19
that our listeners knew about that as well. So thank
26:21
you very much for sharing that, and thank you both as always
26:23
for your insight. Once again, today's guest our Black
26:25
Information Network news anchors Vanessa Tyler
26:28
and Mike Stevens. This
26:31
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26:33
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