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It's been another busy news week and we like

0:03

to review the major stories of the week here on the Black

0:05

Information Network. Today we are

0:07

joined by Black Information Network news anchors

0:09

Vanessa Tyler and Mike Stevens to discuss

0:11

this week's major stories. This

0:14

is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast

0:16

and now I'm your host, ramses Jah.

0:19

All right, Vanessa Tyler, welcome back to

0:21

the show. How have you been very good?

0:23

Thank you, thank you for having us back past ticking.

0:26

My man, Mike Stevens, welcome back. May tell

0:28

me a little bit about what's going on.

0:30

All that's good, Man's always our pleasure

0:32

to be here with you.

0:33

All right, all right, So we got some very

0:36

important news to cover, a

0:39

lot of it, if I'm honest, So let's

0:41

get to it.

0:42

First.

0:42

Up, the tragedy

0:44

that we are all now very familiar with was

0:48

making headlines all this week after the horrific

0:50

collapse of Baltimore's Francis

0:52

Scott key Bridge. Vanessa, why don't

0:54

you give us a quick summary of the story along

0:57

with any recent updates,

0:59

and then Mike will come to you for your thoughts.

1:01

Well, the recovery operation continues and

1:03

it has not been easy. In fact, it's

1:06

dangerous, the water is cold

1:08

and full of debris. At last

1:10

check, they were able to recover two bodies.

1:13

Those numbers, of course, are changing by

1:15

the day hour. Workers

1:18

that were submerged in a red

1:20

pickup truck. Maybe they

1:22

were trying to get away and

1:25

then it just they couldn't we

1:27

know that a fully loaded nine

1:30

hundred and eighty four foot long carrier

1:32

ship lost power and propulsion

1:34

and ran smack dab into support

1:37

pullers now reports at the

1:39

time the bridge was built, of course,

1:41

named after Francis Scott Key. Our

1:43

history books tell us he wrote the star

1:45

Spangled Banner. But when that bridge

1:47

was built a night between like nineteen

1:50

seventy two and nineteen seventy seven, it

1:52

was not constructed to withstand such

1:55

a hit. And of course there's

1:57

a black governor there, the only one in America,

2:00

Governor Moore and then black Mayor Baltimore

2:02

Brandon Scott both there in charge,

2:05

and there is a promise from the president

2:07

to build back because the economy

2:09

depends on it down.

2:10

There, Mike,

2:14

let's get your thoughts here.

2:16

Well, two quick things, piggybacking

2:18

off of what Vanessa mentioned.

2:21

You know they have a black governor and

2:23

black mayor there, and it

2:25

was great to see them standing up and being

2:27

able to answer the questions and handle

2:29

whatever it is that they need to do. That

2:32

has been one of the knocks against black

2:34

politicians by some who

2:37

say they, you know, they're not ready for that, or they are

2:39

to this or to that. But here we see two

2:41

black men standing up

2:43

and handling their responsibilities.

2:45

And nobody can imagine something like this would happen

2:47

when you're sworn into office. I mean,

2:50

who knew. It was great

2:52

to see them doing what they

2:54

need to do. And the other part of it too,

2:56

I've thought about is the infrastructure.

2:58

You know, people have kind of criticis sized

3:00

President Biden for the infrastructure bill,

3:03

you know, not really giving it its props, I think,

3:05

but this is a reminder. This is not the

3:08

first bridge collapse there has been. This is not

3:10

the first rogue collapse. You know,

3:12

there's a lot of things that need

3:14

to be updated in the country, and I think his

3:17

infrastructure plans have been helpful.

3:19

Yeah, yeah, I think to your point,

3:22

I was reading about the bridge and there

3:25

is something like six hundred and fifteen

3:27

thousand bridges and

3:30

they're about maybe seventeen thousand

3:33

that don't have a certain redundancy.

3:37

I think that's the word that is

3:40

helpful in situations like

3:42

this one, and the Francis Scott Key Bridge

3:44

is one of those seventeen thousand bridges

3:47

that needs to be modernized

3:50

and brought up to that

3:53

standard so that things

3:56

like this don't happen, because any

4:00

loss of life is tragic. But when I found out

4:02

that some

4:04

of the all of the individuals

4:07

that they are now attempting to recover,

4:09

not rescue, were

4:12

either migrants or from Mexico

4:15

or Guatemala or wherever they were from,

4:17

and they were road workers, and then indeed

4:20

it'll be Latinos that will

4:23

rebuild that bridge, my

4:26

heart broke even more because you

4:28

know, for those that know, you know, I'm based in Arizona,

4:31

so a lot of the people that I

4:33

protest with, a lot of the people that I

4:36

you know, are fellow activists out

4:38

here, are people that have

4:41

to deal with the brunt of the

4:45

modern day racism in this country,

4:47

particularly racism to our brothers

4:49

and sisters that lived

4:51

here before this was the United States

4:53

of America. As you know, Arizona was

4:56

Mexico for but initially

4:58

it was not America. But

5:00

the people who are from Mexico

5:05

or Mexican people who are Americans

5:07

because the land had transferred,

5:10

still deal with a lot of the racism

5:13

that comes with the immigration debate and

5:15

and all that sort of stuff. And to know how

5:18

hard working these people are, you

5:20

know, my heart goes out to that community, knowing that

5:23

these men who were fathers, who were husbands,

5:25

who were hard workers, they were good people,

5:29

and they lost their lives and you

5:32

know, I would call that in service to this country

5:34

too. You know, the President himself said that the

5:37

bridge was important to the economy,

5:39

and so they're doing their job for this country

5:42

the same as any of us. That

5:45

was very, very hard to hear from me.

5:47

And uh.

5:52

Yeah, I uh, that's that's

5:54

the part where I have the toughest part with it. So indeed,

5:56

we do need to update our infrastructure. We do

5:58

need to give you

6:00

know, the president props where you know, credit where

6:03

is due. I don't give them all all the credit he

6:05

once, but I'll give them credit whords do absolutely And

6:09

you know, we just need to

6:11

round that last corner and hopefully avoid

6:13

tragedies like this in the future. So moving

6:16

on in Minnesota, a university

6:18

scholarship created in honor of George Floyd

6:20

for black students has spurred a federal

6:23

civil rights lawsuit. So mich time,

6:25

let's start with you, share some details

6:27

about this case, and then Vanessa will follow with you.

6:30

You know, this surprised me, but then again it didn't.

6:34

I don't know if we I'm pretty sure we talked

6:36

about it when it happened previously, when the President

6:38

passed executive actions to help

6:41

black farmers who had

6:43

been discriminated against for years.

6:45

And this was a summer Yeah, that's what we did.

6:47

Yeah, and then the white

6:49

farmers who felt this was racist

6:52

or wanted money, they sued

6:54

and so the black farmers didn't get the help. So

6:57

this is another example, you know, a

6:59

legal scholarship taking place at

7:02

Minnesota's North Central University.

7:05

It was named after George Floyd, and

7:08

those who are assuing say this violates the

7:10

Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four

7:12

because it's only open to black students.

7:15

So they're calling this discrimination

7:18

or maybe reverse discrimination. But

7:20

no, it seems like whenever there are

7:23

opportunities or plans in place to

7:26

help right the wrongs of the past,

7:28

to make the playing feel equal, something

7:31

will happen like this where

7:33

there's pushback and oh, no, you

7:35

know, we're that's not fair

7:37

because you know, they're getting help and we're

7:39

not. I don't know where,

7:42

I don't know exactly how you fight that. Obviously

7:45

it's going to end up in some sort of legal

7:48

decision. But there are all kinds

7:50

of scholarships

7:52

and grants that are being offered

7:54

specifically, say to black women

7:57

or African Americans. Many companies

8:00

offered, although they didn't all keep their promises,

8:03

but you know, to help black

8:05

folks out in different ways, and it just

8:07

seems like there's so much pushback against

8:09

that kind of a thing.

8:12

The nessa let's hear from you.

8:14

I totally agree with Mike. There is something

8:16

insidious happening right now, and it's

8:18

like a runaway train. They

8:21

won't stop. There are

8:23

those who feel so strongly in their bones that

8:25

black people, despite the poverty of many,

8:28

are getting an unfair advantage.

8:30

Anything and everything must

8:33

be eliminated. And yet this

8:35

is another example. It

8:37

started with, of course, what happened in

8:39

the college admissions, and it will

8:41

trickle down to every aspect

8:44

of American life. So everything

8:46

will have a fight, whether it's you

8:48

know, getting black kids uniform

8:51

on a youth Baseball

8:53

league. You know, everything

8:55

is going to be fought back at this point that

8:59

it's out of the bag and they're going

9:01

for it. And unfortunately they

9:04

are winning in many, many instances

9:07

and getting these things eliminated.

9:09

Sure, you know, the the

9:12

entity behind a lot of those

9:14

attacks you're talking about is called the

9:17

Equal Protection Project of

9:19

the Legal Insurrection

9:22

Foundation, headed

9:24

by Cornell University clinical

9:26

law professor William Jacobson. And

9:30

you know what they do is they go after minority

9:32

benefiting scholarships, they go

9:34

after DEI programs.

9:35

Things like this.

9:37

These are the reverse

9:39

racism folks, right, So

9:42

obviously this the head of this, this William

9:44

Jacobson is a white man.

9:47

And their primary question, and

9:50

Mike, I think that you were making this point. Their primary

9:52

question is does it exclude

9:55

white people? Their

9:57

primary question is not does

10:00

it provide equitable access

10:03

to all people? Because those are two

10:05

different questions, right, And

10:07

I think that you know, when you ask the question what

10:10

do we do about this? Where do we go from here? I

10:13

think it's important for us to

10:15

consider that once upon a time

10:19

we fought for equal rights, We wanted

10:21

equality in this country, because that was a

10:24

very important, critical first step. We

10:27

needed equal rights. But the

10:29

goal of equal rights is equitable

10:33

access. And so now

10:35

that all things are equal, indeed

10:37

we have white conservative law professors

10:41

fighting for equal rights. Sure,

10:43

you know, if we want to go back fifty years ago,

10:46

which indeed is not two hundred

10:48

and fifty years ago, right, but

10:52

now we need to shift our focus to equity.

10:55

And that's probably why there's such these

10:59

pronounced attacks on diversity,

11:01

equity and inclusion,

11:03

because equity is a different word. And

11:08

you know, Vanessa, I think you were making this point. You

11:10

know, we

11:12

ended up here really

11:15

as a result of twenty

11:17

sixteen for

11:20

everyone that did not

11:22

vote could not make it and

11:25

the people that we all know that did not vote

11:27

and could not make it. You

11:31

know, Donald

11:33

Trump famously won that election, and

11:38

he got in there with his decidedly

11:42

conservative agenda,

11:45

deeply conservative agenda to take

11:47

back the country from Obama

11:49

and this new progressive direction

11:52

that the country was heading in. And

11:55

he wanted to be the hero of all of these

11:57

reverse racism folks that crowd.

12:00

You know, that's not the only hill they stand

12:02

on, but you know that's one of their big

12:04

ones.

12:04

Right.

12:05

So Donald Trump was in there being

12:09

Donald Trump. He obviously

12:14

elected way too many

12:16

Supreme Court justices.

12:18

All that feel the way that he feel.

12:20

They were vetted, you know, so

12:22

that they could affect

12:25

these types of things for.

12:30

Decades.

12:31

And when people look back on the

12:34

importance of elections and how elections

12:36

don't affect them and you

12:38

know, my life is the same every

12:41

day who regardless of who sits in what office.

12:44

I think that this shows

12:47

just how important elections are now. I will

12:49

say that for people that they

12:52

cannot find a moral ground to

12:55

vote for one candidate or another candidate,

12:57

vote for the candidates that you can vote

13:00

for, at least show up right and

13:02

shape this reality and let your

13:04

voices be heard. But you know, my

13:08

voice, my vote is it only counts

13:10

for one. So with a microphone and an

13:12

audience, that's the best that I can do. It's

13:14

a It's another thing also to point

13:17

out that, and I say, you made this point

13:19

that these people are I think the

13:21

way they frame the problem is they look at

13:23

themselves like, well,

13:26

if I don't have access to it, then

13:29

it's not it's not equal, right,

13:31

So they look at themselves and they look at individuals,

13:33

and they don't look at communities.

13:36

They don't look at how systems

13:38

affect people, right, And when you

13:40

look at the numbers, the numbers

13:42

say, well, this community does

13:45

have access and is taking advantage of you

13:47

know, this economy and

13:50

this capitalistic model, and this

13:52

other community is not. And

13:55

for people on our side,

13:57

we look at that and say, well, there are barriers. And

13:59

for people on that side, they say, well,

14:02

you're just lazy, you're not working hard enough, you're

14:04

not smart enough, you're whatever, and whatever

14:07

it is that they can do to dismiss that. Any

14:09

any excuse is good enough except white

14:12

supremacist systems, which

14:15

you know, is something that they are

14:18

intentionally turning a blind eye to. So

14:20

they got all their ducks in a row to make these

14:22

arguments. And if they have, you

14:25

know, the the the courts

14:28

ultimately in position

14:30

to rule in their favor, then yeah, they can undo

14:33

a lot of this stuff. They can do more than just take

14:35

away abortion rights. They can take away quite

14:37

a bit. But again, what

14:39

we're looking at now is the progress of the that

14:42

was made by our ancestors

14:45

and some of the folks who are still with us,

14:47

you know, in the sixties. So equal

14:49

is not that's not Jim Crow.

14:52

So you know, that's not nothing. So I don't

14:54

want. I don't want it to be all bleak, but I do want

14:56

to compel people to continue to vote and engage in

14:58

our democracy. Black

15:02

Information Network news anchors Vanessa Tyler

15:04

and Mike Stevens are here with us discussing.

15:06

This week's major stories. All

15:09

right.

15:09

Next up from Atlanta, Black District Attorney

15:11

Fannie Willis survived an inquiry that

15:14

would have seen her removed from her highly

15:16

publicized election or inference case against

15:19

former President Donald Trump. After

15:21

a judge ruled that she can stay on the case.

15:23

DA Willis had some choice words for Donald Trump

15:25

as she discussed what's coming next

15:27

in her case during a recent CNN interview. Vanessa,

15:30

you're covering the story of the bi in, so tell us

15:32

more about Fannie Willis's interview, and then Mike will hear

15:34

from you next.

15:36

Fulton County DA. Fannie Willis is

15:38

a tough lady. Oh yeah, he gets

15:40

it, honestly. If her father is a soldier,

15:43

you saw that when he testified during the hearing

15:45

on if she should be kicked off the case. But

15:47

I do want to add something else. As we speak,

15:49

there's a hearing going on. Trump

15:52

teams trying to get the case thrown out.

15:55

Will hear from the judge maybe later

15:57

today or soon. But you

15:59

know, of course they always tried to get the case

16:01

thrown out, initially before case goes

16:04

to trial, but that's happening now. But

16:07

you know, the Trump team thought

16:09

they were really stopping her by

16:11

exposing her affair, and

16:13

it appears and only toughened her resolve.

16:16

Yeah, she was distracted, but

16:19

she didn't make clear to CNN as you mentioned

16:21

that her team was still working and

16:23

they are.

16:24

Ready to go.

16:25

So you know she's gearing

16:28

up. You know, he had the President

16:30

on tape saying if you can just find me in

16:33

this number of votes so to

16:35

the Georgia Secretary of State. So

16:38

you know, we'll see, we'll see what the judge rules

16:40

in this instance. But you

16:43

know they're trying right now to get

16:45

this case thrown out and they will

16:47

continue to try to get her kicked

16:50

off.

16:51

Fantastic, Mike. Let's get your thoughts.

16:54

You know, Fannie Willis spits fire every

16:56

time she talks publicly. I

16:58

mean, there's no playing with her, and a

17:00

lot of people are not comfortable with a strong

17:02

black woman who is in a position of authority,

17:05

who speaks well, who has her credentials

17:08

and so forth. There are still some who say

17:10

she probably should have made some

17:12

different decisions in

17:14

her life and how she's handled some of this.

17:17

But regardless of that, the black

17:19

prosecutor, the lead prosecutor

17:22

that was on the case, has

17:24

now resigned.

17:27

She's still on the case. And as Vanessa

17:29

said, she mentioned while all this stuff

17:32

was going on publicly waiting

17:34

for the decisions, the hearings

17:36

and so forth, that they've been continuing to work

17:38

behind the scenes and are

17:40

progressing. So, you know, from

17:43

right now it looks like this trinal is going to happen. When

17:45

is not clear, but she says

17:47

they're still getting their ducks in the row and they'll be ready.

17:50

Yeah, yeah, she said famously, the

17:52

train is coming. So and

17:55

she said that they were, you know, as you mentioned, they've

17:57

been working all through it, so that didn't it

18:00

was a distraction, but it didn't slow them down.

18:02

And and you know, I.

18:06

Like her kind of being at the helm of this despite

18:09

this, all this nonsense

18:11

and noise surrounding her personal life.

18:13

I kind of like her.

18:15

She's

18:17

tough. I think that's that's how you put it.

18:19

She is, you

18:22

know, she's not intimidated by him. And

18:25

you know, I remember us talking about

18:27

this before that black

18:29

women often come to the rescue of this country

18:32

time and again, and you know,

18:34

at present I I'm

18:36

kind of proud of her. So so yeah, we'll

18:38

keep watching and keep you informed

18:40

as as the story continues to develop. But

18:43

now for our final story,

18:45

and this story provides us with the

18:48

following play on words, did he do

18:50

it? Or is he innocent? Actually,

18:52

there's a couple of plays on words. Now

18:54

there's a whole new phrase. You

18:58

know that people are rushing to trademark

19:01

surrounding this whole thing. But I won't

19:03

even get into that anyway. Rap mogul

19:05

Sean Diddy Combs is back in the news this

19:07

week, and this time it's Homeland Security

19:10

that has him in their crosshairs. Mike, bring

19:12

us up to speed with the latest on this story, and then Vanessa will

19:14

come to you to close us out.

19:16

Yeah, did he do it? Or did he not? There's

19:21

a lot of layers to this, sure, So

19:23

first of all, we want to say it clearly off the

19:25

top that did he and his lawyers have

19:28

denied all the allegations against him,

19:31

which include five lawsuits. In

19:34

the most recent case, many

19:37

of us have seen the video now of these

19:41

not FBI agents, but federal

19:43

agents who were you know, of

19:45

course in fatigues and so forth, at

19:48

two of his home simultaneously

19:51

in Miami and Los Angeles.

19:53

Feeling not clear what

19:55

they were looking for, but we did see

19:57

them bringing some people out,

20:01

you know, arresting or

20:03

at least taking them out

20:05

in that sort of atmosphere.

20:07

They're wearing a full tactical gear. Guns

20:09

are drawn, and it

20:12

seems like that's when infuriated

20:14

did He the most that they

20:16

called gross overuse of military

20:18

level force in serving

20:22

search warrants. But that's the way they

20:24

do it, even when it's white collar crime

20:26

or Republican or democratic,

20:29

whoever it is. You know, they come out, they

20:31

don't play. They come out fully armed and

20:34

ready to go. And as Chris

20:36

Thompson, our producer, mentioned to me earlier,

20:38

when the Feds you

20:40

know, come out for that kind of a thing, they

20:42

have their things, they're ready to go. They've

20:45

already done the background, they know what they're

20:47

looking for and so forth. But

20:51

of course we'll see what happens with all of this. There

20:53

are all kinds of allegations that

20:57

did He sex trafficked they're

21:00

alleged sex with minors. And

21:02

this one is so significant

21:05

because he has been involved in some of the biggest music

21:07

stars over the years. Usher who

21:10

has said some wild things since all this happened,

21:13

Biggie, Mariah Carey, Mary J. Blige.

21:15

I mean, there's so many people that he's

21:17

been involved with over the years, and there's so many rumors.

21:20

The truth will come out, more details

21:22

will come out during this process,

21:26

but again that he says

21:28

they've done nothing wrong. It

21:31

should also be mentioned that the same

21:33

prosecutor who is

21:35

working on this case is the same one who came after

21:38

R. Kelly and Secure convictions.

21:41

That's the US attorney Damian Williams,

21:43

who is black, by the way. So

21:45

we're going to see what happens how this plays out

21:47

down the road. I think there's a lot of stuff

21:49

that people are speculated

21:51

about that's going to be uncovered.

21:55

Vanessa, let's get.

21:56

You the way in.

21:58

All I can say is people are coming out

22:00

of the woodwork every day.

22:02

There are stories from people who claim to either

22:05

saw the wild parties or

22:07

say they've been approached by the mogul

22:10

himself. I even read something where Uncle

22:12

Luke of Two Live Crew said

22:14

it was too wild for him to stick around

22:17

because the later it got, the wilder

22:19

things allegedly became. So

22:23

you know, of course there have been rumors for years,

22:25

and you know, if Wendy Williams

22:28

could tell it. Of course, she's got her own medical

22:31

health issues, severe health issues,

22:33

by the way, and of course we constantly

22:35

pray for her. But you know, she's

22:38

been talking about it for decades, the

22:41

situations with Puffy or Diddy.

22:44

So you know, when

22:47

you say that the prosecutor who involved

22:49

in R Kelly is on this case,

22:52

that doesn't sound very good because

22:54

right now R Kelly's under the jail.

22:57

So I don't know, you

22:59

know, we just have to wait and see. It's a shame.

23:02

You know, Puffy was extreme.

23:05

You know, he's from New York. I'm from Harlem, so

23:07

I mean he's you know, he was somebody

23:10

we were all proud of. But you

23:12

know, these allegations are just

23:14

just too much.

23:18

You know, I'm not gonna say too much

23:20

here. I

23:23

obviously, if there's any any

23:27

victims, then you know that's they

23:29

need to be centered and prioritized. But you

23:32

know, I'm Dave Chappelle

23:34

said it best. What is a black man without his paranoia

23:37

intact. Right, So

23:40

again I may see patterns where

23:43

they don't really exist. I might be

23:45

imagining things. But I just think it's interesting

23:47

that these

23:51

black men in recent years

23:53

have lived long careers,

23:57

and at the end of

23:59

the long rears they

24:02

end up the story

24:05

ends up getting chronicled about how they were

24:08

somehow sexual devians. And

24:10

that's not to say it's not true.

24:12

It's just.

24:14

Exactly yeah, but it's it's interesting

24:16

that it's it's just a long career and then

24:19

at the end of it then they you

24:21

know, it's that's that.

24:22

You know.

24:22

Again, I'm not trying to say it's not true. It's just you

24:25

know, I'm a pattern that

24:27

black man paranoia is starting.

24:28

To kick in. I'm like, eh, so it's

24:30

something else going on here that I'm missing, you know.

24:32

So anyway, they'll Cosby Simpson

24:34

Simmons in the ear they all have

24:37

issues right now.

24:38

Yeah, yeah, And then you know you mentioned

24:40

r.

24:40

Kelly and and again, like I'm saying,

24:42

I'm not trying to say that's not true. I'm just

24:44

trying to say, it's just interesting how it

24:47

almost seems like the same story playing

24:49

out over and over again. So that that part

24:51

feels a little unusual,

24:54

but sure. So

24:57

before we go, lastly, I

24:59

want to make sure that we take a moment to congratulate

25:01

you, Vanessa on the launch of your new podcast.

25:05

So you know I've listened

25:07

to a bit of it and I'm in love with it,

25:09

and I want you to take a few seconds

25:11

and share a quick overview

25:13

about your black Land podcast with our

25:15

listeners.

25:16

Oh, thank you very much. Ram says Blackland

25:19

is a big bouquet of black

25:22

life, the roses and the

25:24

thorns. I let people tell their stories

25:27

and we were talking about sex trafficking.

25:30

Tune in right now where I have a

25:32

compelling piece about

25:34

a black woman who has been trafficked, abused

25:37

and used in drugs, very

25:39

similar to what authorities are looking

25:41

at in the Combs case. You

25:44

have to really hear her story

25:46

up right now on black Land, and we have

25:48

a new episode up every week. Black

25:51

Life and the place where we occupy,

25:54

the land on which we stand,

25:57

Blackland.

25:59

It's fantastic and that is

26:01

a personal endorsement from

26:03

me. I, like

26:06

I said, I spent some time this week just

26:08

it's a newer show and I just it was

26:10

timely that I tapped in.

26:13

But once

26:15

I started listening, I'm like, Okay, I get it,

26:17

I get it. So so yeah, I wanted to make sure

26:19

that our listeners knew about that as well. So thank

26:21

you very much for sharing that, and thank you both as always

26:23

for your insight. Once again, today's guest our Black

26:25

Information Network news anchors Vanessa Tyler

26:28

and Mike Stevens. This

26:31

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26:33

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