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Hello Kitty! I have a very British. Problem.

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Did you run on a T? What's going on? Worse.

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Even than that, which is where

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I live opposite Church of Court

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on Monday night because I'm extremely

0:22

religious. Hundred a night is is

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bell ringing night. I think right

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here. a few a few pills.

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Are trying to think than the Nine Taylor's that's

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that's the type of our and ah yes or

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and I apologize in advance is going to be

0:36

a bit weird but to have to buy with

0:38

it. Oh so bell ringing though? Is this a

0:41

religious ceremony? Years is transfer funds is why I

0:43

think a little bit. I think this is how.

0:45

You know, people in Britain meet people that

0:47

they might go into marathon and be unhappy

0:50

with her many decades. Three bell ringing? Yeah,

0:52

this isn't the equate equivalent of British tender.

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Ringer. Yeah of a of this

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to make it like intensity of they

1:00

were welcomed abiding reported I'm Katie Herzog

1:02

and joining me today while my usual

1:04

Blaze filler Jesse Singal is very politely

1:07

asking the pigeons person has a windowsill

1:09

to observe quiet hours you already know

1:11

we have fan favorite Helen Louis. Helen

1:14

Louis is not a bell ringer. She

1:16

is however a staff writer at The

1:18

Atlantic and the author of Difficult Women,

1:20

a History of Feminism and Eleven Fights

1:23

and according to the truly dog shit

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resource Transgender Mob. She is a

1:27

sex segregation is Helen. I didn't know that

1:29

about you. To make your husband peels I'd

1:32

in a manner of speaking. Yes, Which

1:35

which is no we got is really bizarre

1:37

house. It's I'm It's like a very small

1:39

house that's got the living room upstairs which

1:41

is lovely. but the bedrooms downstairs and bizarrely,

1:43

it's got three toilets at it. I don't

1:45

entirely understand why. Sit got one family boss

1:47

room, one on sweet bathroom and then under

1:50

the stairs. It has what I call Harry

1:52

Potter's Cupboard. Which is

1:54

where the washing machine is And it was as good a toilet in. It

1:56

so we do now observe sex. Aggregates toilets in

1:58

this household in have we sit in different

2:00

places This is the answer is James was

2:02

actually write about something for once I am

2:04

shocked by accident to a see some I

2:07

got it by everyone says the funny thing

2:09

is I'm applying for a visa to go

2:11

and. Hopefully come over to America but bit

2:13

more. the feature. On one of these you're joining

2:15

our yeah one of the things you have to. Prove that

2:17

you're like incessantly renamed A My

2:19

husband said you could send them

2:21

your glad page. Com.

2:26

Influence in America that is in her

2:28

Me: I guess me and Rush Limbaugh

2:30

together be the biggest he I just

2:32

hope of that the of that the

2:34

bureaucrats second your visa or and factors.

2:37

Which. You know it's not unlikely. Well, if

2:39

I hang on until the name and nothing

2:41

until November and it's trump a bureaucrat said

2:43

they'll take one like about and I'll be

2:45

straight through some. Are you A? Are you?

2:47

Do you know where you would be? Are

2:49

you just when to come hang out at our

2:51

country for no reason Reserves are you located of?

2:53

I can do Florida at it as a more

2:56

sorry to. Miss Florida.

2:58

So much snow. just I'm just. A that

3:00

can be over there more often really. And

3:03

not to come to come back. In the principal I

3:05

have the Warsaw Id T policies that one of my

3:07

home. I would like to

3:09

stress I'm terrible at the I why. The other

3:11

thing is no but my house apart from the

3:13

by to have three toilet is this. We moved

3:16

in and twenty fifteen and it was a new

3:18

build on. I bought the show furniture that. It

3:20

came with and with ssssss sus law you

3:22

can do. I know that that was a

3:24

possibility. I am. Such, I was slowest

3:26

disgusting. A just stinks a sister care

3:29

enough. I just don't care. Available

3:31

today. We have a lot on the docket.

3:33

First you are going to bring me the

3:36

most important news from Turf Island and then

3:38

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you are in fact of hey Trevor he

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are you enjoying these Jesse Less episodes?

3:58

I mean. The times we fire him

4:01

what he thinks. You know what? I.

4:03

I felt sad for Jesse today because I

4:05

read. Or Andrea Long twos very long

4:07

to Peter and I am how old

4:09

children should belied to transition and do

4:12

whatever they want. And there and of

4:14

the whole para. I only got a brief

4:16

glancing mentioned but says he got a

4:18

whole paragraph and and I think the

4:20

the fact that he's annoyed her sufficiently

4:22

to merit an entire paragraph in her

4:24

ninety thousand word peace. Just what entirely

4:26

to sizes inclusion on this post. Of

4:28

my take away from that article that I

4:31

have had, not read the entire ninety thousand

4:33

words, I did probably read half of them.

4:35

My take away from it though is that

4:38

Andrea Launch You would make a very cool

4:40

babysitter. Not for the not from the adult

4:42

for success but she would be that the

4:44

whole thing was about and I should. I

4:47

think she deserves some credit for. This was

4:49

about how a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. Is

4:52

sort of the. This place

4:54

requirements. For. Use Friends

4:56

isn't and kids should be ever be able

4:58

to transition because kids on their bodies and

5:01

freedom see his. the consummate Libertarian. I honestly

5:03

think that she should move to New Hampshire

5:05

and become friends with Car The Birth and

5:07

Go and join the Free Say project. It

5:10

was an incredibly Libertarians is yeah. I mean

5:12

I don't know why it's any more outrageous

5:14

to think that you would lead. Name

5:17

is twelve year old own and. Ak forty

5:19

seven on a officer and his his his

5:21

inner have lifesaver actually in America. we have

5:23

no problem with that. I mean, it's nice

5:25

she should move to Florida. Where

5:28

it was such things are encouraged. But

5:30

yeah I thought he was reaching some a British shows

5:32

me what I thought of it and I said it

5:34

reminded me a lot of the arguments for break them

5:36

so they were looks there was a be caucus it

5:39

breaks it is I who were Libertarians and what they

5:41

basically ones from breaks it was to turn us into

5:43

com The Singapore on Thames said that is a low

5:45

tax low regulation. States were basically a you can get

5:47

procaine and right broke aiding even get completely. Eating

5:50

at fired you know it will like a

5:52

kind of much more ah American approach to

5:54

employ. Mites, And European ones. but they correctly

5:56

intuitive that this would be wildly unpopular and

5:58

people like things like she didn't people sick,

6:01

pay holiday pay the ability to get fired.

6:03

They tend to really, really like it.

6:05

So instead the break the argument with. Multiple

6:07

Phones On Immigration and Controlling Borders on this

6:10

is a said a similar thing right? There

6:13

is a very logical Libertarian argument

6:15

for letting people transition is. This

6:17

is wildly unpopular and the reason. That

6:19

born this way and this is a in a

6:21

you have to do this or your kid will

6:23

kill themselves have gained so much traction is they

6:25

fundamentally appeal to way. More people than they do.

6:27

Like that the kids have a tattoo. Let

6:30

them stop. it's themselves off. all of this.

6:32

Is very cool, but he doesn't seem to

6:34

grapple with the fact that children are fundamentally

6:36

different than adults and children are stupid. Some

6:38

adults are stupid, but children are very stupid.

6:40

That's a new. Are you saying that because

6:43

you're tall? What it was is a trans?

6:45

Let us all the trans apathetic. Reactionary liberal

6:47

I think the Abbey know I remember it

6:49

cringing it was in people tried to make

6:51

far happen with feminist appropriating radical transcribe and

6:54

and was like wow that's a really bar

6:56

thing as insists aware that these yes. To

6:58

fit and that's really hard. These just to Oh

7:00

good. You're gonna regenerate. Because the good and you

7:02

can kind of forfeit, right? No. Pulitzer. Winning! And

7:05

your lungs you will have none. of this idea of what

7:07

grace and she's coming hot coming assess assess

7:09

with their with tall. And

7:11

you. The thing I do appreciate about

7:13

her is that. I'm

7:16

getting. I'm get like I'm blocked by. Transmitter.

7:19

So I don't know what the reaction it

7:21

has been on translator, but I'm guessing it's

7:23

hasn't been great because she has a tendency

7:25

to write about the reality of transition, which

7:27

that transition isn't necessarily going to make you

7:29

happy. She wrote that about her own. She

7:31

added she bought a vagina and some plants

7:33

and she what about it in the New

7:35

York Times and said you know, I don't

7:37

think my vagina is going to actually make

7:40

me happy And so I think her willingness

7:42

to write this thing that is almost guaranteed

7:44

to piss off everybody. it's a night she

7:46

might not have balls, Buses Gobbles, right? Idea?

7:48

No actually just sales. Me. While I so

7:50

the recipes had been as, I think it would be

7:53

massively ignored in the same way. If you remember when

7:55

New York Magazine have that trans man you'd have that's

7:57

freaky sea lodge and penis made. and I'm not saying

7:59

that. The author kept his vagina on another thing.

8:01

that's. Read like littering the Pc right? I wanted

8:03

the biggest what makes you keep it would give.

8:05

Read semi. the Magna yeah and it

8:08

was just the picture of him was

8:10

quite intense in terms of discovering. And

8:12

the kind of of chairman surgery and say that was

8:14

his son of and them lots of details and his

8:16

backstory by having been raped to win still living as

8:18

a woman and it was just not the kind of.

8:21

Lovely butterfly narratives and so everyone.

8:23

Just nothing. It was like it

8:25

never happened how it has. Like four

8:27

episodes on it. Was.

8:29

Just on the size of the package. All. Right?

8:32

But in the transact with community there wasn't this

8:34

kind of yes queen in a live your by

8:36

slice. It was just owner. This is embrace. Yeah,

8:38

it was just this is actually kind of embarrassing.

8:40

And of scripts. And therefore, it's

8:42

inconvenient. So let's pretend. That it didn't

8:45

happen. and I suspect. That be the case with

8:47

this hundred own to pieces. Well. Well thank

8:49

you to New York Magazine

8:51

for platforming the most unhinged,

8:53

sensible immigrants community. Appreciate that.

8:56

Are actually good. see learn new some

8:58

surveillance. Yeah. I got it. I got

9:00

three, but Sydney's and Tough Island for you and all didn't

9:02

really quickly The. First is Am Jk

9:04

Rowling Been fighting on the

9:06

internet again? Really? Yes, I'm.

9:09

Meza. Him to their votes the. Old

9:11

the original series of Chappelle Show and as

9:13

it once gets, which cari why they that

9:15

Chappelle. Says something about being really petty

9:17

and he goes to lucky for me

9:19

my family's petty to access and that's

9:21

how I think every time square feet.

9:24

Seiko for his tweets is just like

9:26

she's quite spectacularly petites and the name

9:28

is working as a lot of other

9:30

entities writing like another is at least

9:33

lay another blockbuster know and then to

9:35

think sites which really minor celebrity get

9:37

into trouble on twitter and say there

9:39

was a former tv presenter. Transom could

9:41

India willoughby? And takes common with

9:44

the argument so it's a bit. Essentially She said the

9:46

air and you will be spread to his he and

9:48

his a man and Willoughby said this is a hate.

9:50

Crime. I'm going to report it to

9:52

the police or her. Ah, an important

9:54

Votes: Even hundred slightly draconian hate speech

9:56

or so isn't really going to get

9:59

anywhere but this. Young kid from. A new

10:01

a puppet called Byline Times that you. Probably.

10:03

Haven't heard of. It's not very well known. It

10:05

was described by well as folks in his pocket

10:07

producer his weight trees in fi was which I

10:10

guess translated into American his like. Whole

10:12

Foods info will have you. Covered

10:15

from wars is actually. Whole Foods

10:18

for ethic and. Says but as

10:20

it is this kid call them kalan

10:22

robertson. Into the window will obese and. Then

10:24

said you know, know, cause I extend an invitation

10:26

to stake a rolling t But she didn't say

10:28

yes And so he really meant. Either.

10:30

Know who was Be guilty Mullally pointed out

10:33

that she's got one or two things on

10:35

at Slate Mom. With a phenomenally successful book

10:37

series and many that key to pretty a

10:39

credit such continues to hold. This,

10:41

and she wasn't about scared of him. Anyway, at

10:43

that point, the kid. I called her

10:46

a putrid c word at one am,

10:48

which is no. Practically why would

10:50

advise doing when you want to get people to be

10:52

interviewed by you but in a. Is that it

10:54

is that a hate crime in the Uk

10:56

know? because that's the Larry Stable. The aggravating

10:58

factors that home with a bit unfair be

11:00

whatever sexism misogyny isn't one of if they

11:03

on an avid happened when I just didn't

11:05

put that when and and success as a

11:07

good word they couldn't included yeah I'm I'm

11:09

anyway. the Footloose to Fitness is a strange.

11:11

The funny thing about. The stories this

11:13

guy used to be Tommy Robinson saving

11:16

se Lennon as his given name. they

11:18

kind of and far as teach in

11:20

the sort of Steve Bannon ask multi

11:22

speed cameraman and as archiving at ease.

11:24

Of him talking to learn southern and.

11:27

Other. Outright think is about how gay men

11:29

will have diseases and the sentences and fine

11:31

line to that it will gain an easy

11:33

game. And yes so he's speaking from experience

11:35

of i like an average of five hundred

11:37

sexual policy isn't he likes of chemical a

11:39

lot on and the violence say that they

11:41

d radicalized him and it was just the

11:43

my perfect example of that horseshoe theory. It's

11:45

like I like to say to people and

11:47

t realize what is the vexed if we're

11:49

doing this in my current environment. So yeah

11:51

I thought a catch up a bit. On

11:53

Jk great are you interested in

11:55

Kate Middleton? Extremely

11:57

Okay, so see.

12:00

If he went to hospital for Christmas and

12:02

the police and said. They said

12:04

have an operation she's going to disappear from. So

12:06

it's but this is just you Know, the people

12:08

making tic talks about the Amber Heard Johnny Depp

12:11

trial or her. Those people and I'm making Take

12:13

talks about well what some? The Kate Middleton Aha.

12:15

And they kind of tried to do a proof of life.

12:17

Photo at the weekend the mother's Day photo

12:19

and it tenants been quite badly photo shopped.

12:22

So everybody now he's got all

12:24

kinds of early theories. About what's

12:26

happened the. And and it's when this really

12:28

way. So who really of did like the Palace

12:30

released this slut Desoto the visit like as a

12:32

either hello this is a thing it was released

12:34

by Kensington Palace which is the household of the

12:36

Prince and Princess of Wales and it was supposed

12:38

to be taken by William Some and or the

12:40

fights Way to see the quite annoyed because this

12:42

kind of business of hand that faces this happened

12:44

really often It happened in America at if you

12:46

member Barack Obama had that guy. He took all

12:48

these photos and always kind of yes adorable

12:50

and of like the kid touching his hair

12:52

and you know he's laughing and the kings

12:55

the suave when we know that was all

12:57

taken by guide that basically was in him

12:59

of producing propaganda for him. Said

13:01

the news agencies are really pretty annoyed about

13:03

this sort of stuff. Sites: They withdrew

13:05

the photo late on Sunday night and said

13:08

it's been altered and which point the kind

13:10

of basically the skies valid and it

13:12

is now open season on kind of like

13:14

looks these that lineup. The checks on the

13:17

dress proves that it's she's been stuffed.

13:19

An extraordinary is that the whole country's. Lost

13:21

their minds it is. I think the have

13:23

Madame Tussaud's in a in the Uk. As

13:25

good as I think we invented Madame Tussauds

13:27

ssssss not sound like it's at American. named

13:30

as it spreads. Original was a seat I

13:32

think sick as have a really weird feeling

13:34

that she started off during the French Revolution

13:36

making Death Mask. The people been guillotine says

13:38

as she got a big break. but yes. We

13:40

did have that would make sense. That make sense.

13:43

Maybe that maybe that's what they used for the

13:45

Thera will? What's your what's your theory about where

13:47

kid is? I think she's genuinely got a medical

13:49

problem. And she doesn't fancy explaining it

13:51

to the rest of us, given that

13:54

it's not our intestines. And an

13:56

end to probably kind of recess is

13:58

sick enough to a threesome. It's

14:00

it's it's really bizarre situation which we we

14:03

just don't can't cope with with not knowing

14:05

you think that as. She's.

14:07

Not just the normal celebrity you know she is

14:09

an employee of the people. Write a mean don't

14:11

attack don't you guys pay your bills to think

14:14

she has some obligation to pop up and say

14:16

hey over here I'm so was here with that's

14:18

the thing is it now they have. They do

14:20

have public duties but I also think there's a

14:22

situation where the fact that we tell me things

14:24

into kind of massive online be no ammo or

14:26

a. Jays. And an i described

14:29

as to a colleague his. Q and

14:31

on for hums. Which had any translate summer and

14:33

but like I hung in Britain is like a

14:35

wine mom and America. And the okay,

14:37

basically like here and seeing, but my

14:39

gut the kind of benign side. Of

14:41

the karen ah really in the innocent

14:44

people, he might buy a dry, rabid

14:46

drink prosecco. And have like armed

14:48

you have like lives love last

14:50

the core and I don't know

14:52

exactly. In this has run some

14:55

prosecco, those kind of snacks and of

14:57

I am. I would guess that Mumsnet is probably

14:59

going wild with us with the speculation is it is

15:01

a I. I mean if they take in five minutes.

15:03

From. Of praising

15:06

Crazy Parker. Yeah, maybe they have a

15:08

good second Spear Essentially has become a

15:10

kind of you know I. Just I'm

15:12

I'm I was is. Something when the first when these

15:14

I can remember his and I think it was probably

15:16

that the third term. the hum for the Boston Bomber

15:18

and ready identified. Some pool and student of

15:20

Indian descent who attends it's at a

15:22

strain himself into a river but it

15:24

was. His sentence everybody told themselves what they

15:27

were doing with Vital National. Security. Work

15:29

on what they see during was playing a

15:31

cunning join a clue rice. And them in

15:33

true crime is so popular I think especially

15:35

among women in there is is. A

15:38

very dark side of it like

15:40

as an example. I. Am

15:42

faced with friends with a guy who's and

15:45

I. I don't actually know hi know but

15:47

I'm I'm faced with friends with a guy.

15:49

His daughter fourteen year old daughter was murdered

15:51

and super tragic. That no

15:54

suspects have that nobody's been arrested

15:56

and he is constantly he's posting

15:58

about these bad. That he has

16:00

with these internet flus most of whom are

16:02

women who have can be who are kept

16:05

have convinced himself that he is guilty and

16:07

are like actively trying to ruin this man's

16:09

life a night. So I have naturally I

16:11

joined a facebook group to see what was

16:13

going out and if people are. Deeply.

16:16

Deeply fucking and thus it and deeply of

16:18

the hands and don't see it seemed like

16:20

it, like it's a hobby, it's a game.

16:23

For. Them. I'm sure they think that they're doing

16:25

something very. Just. But what they're

16:27

doing is actually hurting someone who's already

16:29

been extremely hard. Anything to do with

16:31

children to try Set said it was

16:33

the case here of Madeline. Mccann who was

16:35

a kid he was probably murdered. certainly disappeared from

16:38

Portugal. and the inner there was a the Portuguese

16:40

parents slightly put the suspicion on the pet at

16:42

the Portuguese police Like you put the suspicion on

16:44

the parents who tend to have up see nothing

16:46

to do with it, but it was a similar

16:49

thing of people pouring through the evidence. Yeah, And

16:51

then I guess the case of them. Jon Benet

16:53

Ramsey. if you remember that as one

16:55

photos elder. Millennials Among of this that

16:57

had happened during the internet. Era right

16:59

it would just people would have

17:01

been making enormous be complicated diagrams

17:03

of have suffered. And I just think yeah,

17:05

you're right, But I guess this is a slightly. More

17:08

harmless version of fun in that she's

17:10

got a whole protect evaporate is random,

17:12

but nonetheless, I just mentioned that laughing

17:14

you need when you're laid out with

17:16

surgery it will, whatever it might be,

17:18

is kind of having to shut the

17:20

issue. A press release today saying it

17:22

was me who ineptly edited the photo

17:24

or sorry assess whether a while. That

17:26

as. Many amateur photographers

17:28

I enjoy edited my photos, but I'm not very

17:30

good at it. Basically says that

17:32

have included at least one sell the with

17:35

that yes one would prove of it says

17:37

like to think it's possible that see like

17:39

want a divorce or she's stepping back from

17:41

love from the royal family is that are

17:44

you allowed to get adwords I'm you are

17:46

like to get. As many of them have got. I've

17:48

got divorces, He definitely. I think they're it. That I

17:50

am. I mean I think of it went on and on for

17:52

a long time so I talked until in the piece about the

17:54

fact that there was a. Store. A dress

17:56

rehearsal for this with Princess Charlene of

17:59

Monaco. A strictly. Wire come on know

18:01

just of Sorenson see that this this this

18:03

if you read this or it's decision princess

18:05

only have one access for anyway see my

18:07

elbow Monaco two decades older than her he

18:09

got Legend of Children are the sweet prince.

18:11

Albert right? Yeah, that's where the name comes

18:13

from the i Don't Deliver the piercing that

18:15

was alleged. Crematoria husband but yes I am I

18:18

as he had a guy that may be would have

18:20

a Prince Albert. his mother was great until he

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To assess assess Helen's thank

21:50

you for this of day

21:52

from Turf Islands All of

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the most important news coming

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from. Your

21:58

Homeland Athletic I'm I'm. Storing a you

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will I can really sorry. Okay

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I'll add i it let's move on. A line

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segment takes place in the world of bread tube

22:07

helen he familiar with by to i'm really not

22:09

and i think that the sex very well on

22:11

me so I'm very that you gotta see to

22:13

tell me about it. I a sort

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a surprised you're not more familiar with a

22:18

huge you might be just don't know that

22:20

term for it. So it's the term commonly

22:22

used to describe left his you tube and

22:24

so the most famous bread hubris contra points.

22:27

Great front of the pod and like her.

22:29

Many. Bread to burst. Focus on

22:32

social justice, queer his shoes, alternative

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and someone wacky takes on history.

22:36

Things like that Disbarred poured they

22:38

may would absolutely love this. And

22:40

they leave. They make extremely long.

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Like killers of the Flower Moon

22:44

Long. Video. Essays about

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for instance, why capitalism outside

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lay capitalism is dreadful Back.

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Does that make sense? Know because I've never

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understood what like how the system I don't

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the anyone does very premature isn't It's like

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calling somebody like oh I'm said united. The

23:00

you're going to be my first wife and eating

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What kind of money would you know that annexing.

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I love about this term is that it was coined

23:06

and like the nineteen thirties. Even

23:09

later capitalism says yes. I saw

23:11

our main character today's a bread

23:13

super named James Summer Ten. He's

23:15

a gay Canadian video as a

23:17

as to focus on queer literature,

23:19

film, culture and history is corridor

23:21

was named Nick Her got and

23:23

his youtube channel before he neutered

23:25

and we'll get to why he

23:27

knew sit later. Had three hundred

23:29

and thirty thousand subscribers and he

23:31

posted videos with names like Disney's

23:33

were against. Gay kids and the

23:35

necessity of gay crime. And here's

23:37

an excerpt from his Twenty Twenty

23:39

One video and over emotional look

23:41

at why Jk Rowling is bad.

23:44

Actor: Oh it. I can't wrap my head

23:47

around how this happened. Honestly,

23:49

How this woman who wrote books

23:51

the defined my adolescence and adolescences

23:54

Queer people around the world became

23:56

so toxic. How did she so

23:59

quickly go? From being the author

24:01

held up by millions as an example

24:03

of woken us. To. This

24:05

will never know I'm did you see that Great

24:07

quote by a merry must see his this week

24:10

in which she said he like harry poses for

24:12

till for a second twenty five years some really

24:14

be to move on a think you need to

24:16

get a personality instead of a Hogwarts Hunt says

24:19

and I just presets that them it was up

24:21

there with the time the him at the same

24:23

said about Game of Thrones like why they would

24:25

see to gives you like it's experiences great tits

24:28

and dragons. And and says,

24:30

the heart of the adults who get invested

24:32

in Harry Potter or they're basically Disney adults

24:34

is not that not that different? Yeah, well

24:36

when I write my face my first piece

24:39

about to take your own. Pace the kind

24:41

of essay the point of binge a curling phones

24:43

Mcnair. It became very obvious to the basic. everyone

24:45

who ran the Harry Potter fan sites would basically

24:47

my age and I know I liked Harry Potter.

24:50

It's a great series of Reddit number of times

24:52

and watch the films they put the bay, repeat

24:54

them and I'd I'd like to marvel at church

24:56

children big bad acting power and influence them. But

24:58

and. You. Know it's it's a bit

25:00

night, let kids have stuff and do

25:02

you do adult things now? I'm also

25:04

very curious about how many people. Who

25:07

has the overlap between the The Potter

25:09

fans like and hardcore Potter fans who

25:11

grew up in were still hardcore Potter

25:13

fans and queers? That's a that's a

25:15

circle and how many of them have

25:17

Harry Potter tattoos at the Than? Had

25:19

to go go get Roman. Oh definitely.

25:21

I saw people having a Deathly Hallows

25:23

tattoos removed and you think the ah

25:25

yes but any and I knew somebody

25:27

who name that kid after Atticus Finch.

25:30

Which before that sequel came out. I.

25:33

See. It like a paragon of justice so

25:35

think and we will lenses a valuable lesson

25:37

that's a much in a millennial Children of

25:39

Millennials name of I. Also one thing that

25:41

I found interesting about this was that. Before

25:44

she came out as a tour of

25:46

he was held up as a paragon

25:48

of woke nest because the him that's

25:50

a virtue and uses I'd like so

25:52

rarely hear somebody use that term that

25:54

was literally sure but usually with derision

25:57

and I think that says something about

25:59

are different quarter. The the internet like I

26:01

have not heard anyone is that is anything

26:03

but pejorative in years. but for him it's

26:05

like she used to be work and now

26:07

she's not another bad eggs. And he also.

26:10

He. Makes it all about himself. Rate Classic

26:12

the Harry Potter fan narcissism and he

26:14

eat later in the video. He

26:17

goes into detail about what he sees

26:19

as Rawlings the sent into Bigotry what

26:22

was her part there, and he blames

26:24

Rupert Murdoch in the Uk press. He

26:26

blames Australian feminists Sheila Jeffreys and at

26:29

one point he says that both Abraxas

26:31

in Donald Trump's Twenty Sixteen. Election

26:34

victories, Were. Blamed on trans

26:36

people and I swear to God I was

26:38

around then and I don't recall anyone blaming

26:40

like trees Strangio a his transfer and friends

26:42

for the election of Donald Trump. I mean

26:44

did it did that happen? Know somebody

26:46

for me to argue with the impeccable fact

26:49

checking skills of this weepy going you tube.

26:51

but I'm brenda time it breaks it. The

26:53

Tory party and the Labour party in Britain

26:55

were both committed to so far down. The

26:59

inner that that lasted ah yes the twenty

27:01

fifteen was of women cause you select committee

27:03

hearing that was shared by Tory Mp that

27:06

is recommended self id and that was in

27:08

a detour is a curious about that label

27:10

fully on board for this so are you

27:12

know mean you could say kind of. Briggs.

27:15

It was a backlash. To progressivism, all identity,

27:17

politics or kind of whiteness generally that so

27:19

to support was to then the other thing

27:22

about Trump if you member twenty sixteen era

27:24

trump was I'd let. Caitlin Jenny's whatever

27:26

bathroom she wanted to at Trump Tower lay

27:28

on the Republican Party have you would sexually

27:30

assault her? He? That's how. Lucky

27:33

Lessons Son censuses the ultimate

27:35

endorsement of her femininity split.

27:38

Up with the issue, the in in the Republican

27:40

party hadn't really. Fully latched on to be

27:42

electoral potential of just going, we know what

27:44

woman is. Adam, This was way

27:46

before the backlash. yeah, I think this

27:48

than the front last. I'm also not

27:51

entirely clear. How I'm Rupert Murdoch. Reason.

27:53

This game that regularly fairly notoriously hate see

27:55

and journalism in the if what? The. Character

27:57

Rita Skeeter may be like a Murdoch.

28:00

Journalists to just sort of make things up.

28:02

I'm so do I know entirely clear how

28:04

he how he did that. but every game.

28:06

Will That will actually be answered for

28:08

a short late. but that's is vibe.

28:10

So school, the nasal homosexual who knows

28:13

more than you do. he's up. Some

28:15

minor scandals before the big we're not.

28:17

we're going to get to today. So

28:19

for instance, in December, Twenty Twenty two,

28:21

Nebula that's a popular streaming service and

28:23

Youtube competitor. They declined to take him

28:25

on, and he said that this was

28:28

because Nebula had quote know queer contents

28:30

and this upset Nebula content creators like

28:32

trans women Jesse Tender, such as He

28:34

isn't It, that's what he's been doing.

28:36

A book leaves anyway. So they got enough

28:38

fight about this Nebula thing and fans of

28:41

hers said that during this period James slotted

28:43

her. We can find any evidence to support

28:45

that allegations you see will saying an online

28:47

and for what it's worth, I don't I

28:50

doubt it. but. Anyway, some people

28:52

think that he shady two thousand and

28:54

twenty twenty two and then I'm Marsha

28:56

Twenty Twenty three he cause a bit

28:58

of it up said on twitter by

29:00

tweeting this there's a photo and are

29:02

notes Helen please describe so it's not

29:04

popular meme. have. Some so

29:06

cartoon character. again. I've been watching

29:09

films made for. Adults

29:11

don't. Look familiar with

29:13

all the swords point Scotland seen it which is as

29:16

a like what's an opinion or have you like this.

29:18

And then. Doctors.

29:20

Snow Perfect. She her has treated what's

29:22

the sex work opinion total happy like this

29:25

and james some to the great treaty with

29:27

it. Was. Not only should it be

29:29

legal, but it should be subsidized as

29:31

a mental health service. He's

29:34

very clearly not American. We did not

29:36

subsidized health. If

29:39

is the live in both for not enough

29:42

for him This Okay so he followed it

29:44

up with a second tweet url and please

29:46

read this. So. The majority of people

29:48

say express gets and human contact can be an

29:50

imperative to a healthy state of mind. A kind

29:53

in talented six was it can make someone feel

29:55

wanted for the first time in their life. I

29:57

know sex workers who have put people back from

29:59

so. I just by being that looked

30:01

so resident lot of for like six a

30:03

very or definition of easier for some of

30:06

the I like to be levied. Letting you

30:08

put your beat is a my vagina assess

30:10

what friends do. So

30:12

he took a lot of flak for this.

30:14

He was briefly the main character on Twitter.

30:16

The tweets have now been deleted, but a

30:18

couple weeks after that he can plan that

30:21

The twitter reactions to his is bizarre believes

30:23

about search word had led to a drop

30:25

in his p three on numbers. Frankly,

30:28

I can. I doubt that because I don't think

30:30

that his the audience that he told debated are

30:32

like hardcore terms. You think that sex work is

30:34

inherently damaging, their more like you know that sex

30:37

organs were a crowd. But this will come back

30:39

later to. So. There's been some

30:41

drama of and on rumors about various

30:43

wrong doings but he was doing pretty

30:45

well so he had a popular youtube

30:47

channel he was reportedly bringing and six

30:49

figures on Petri on near be private

30:52

discord and then recently things change for

30:54

some items. Before we get to that

30:56

though, we need to introduce a new

30:58

character. Harry Brewers A K H Bomber

31:00

Guy He's a very big name on

31:02

Bread Tube. He has over one point

31:04

five million subscribers that some of his

31:07

most popular videos focus on Things like

31:09

debunking the link between vaccines, And autism

31:11

or climate change denial? And

31:14

he's legitimately He's famous online and somewhat

31:16

of a hero and social justice spaces,

31:18

so you might remember this on So

31:20

and Twenty Nineteen and I, the controversial

31:22

British trans kid cod mermaid had from

31:25

public funding withheld, so Bruce responded to

31:27

this by plane donkey Kong on Twitch

31:29

for fifty seven hours, he raised two

31:31

hundred and sixty five thousand pounds, and

31:33

big names like A O Sea made

31:36

cameos on his stream. You

31:38

pop in for that right to know I just

31:40

a com do twitch and issues or same reason

31:42

I can't do you cheap and I think this

31:44

I didn't. If you think December this is just

31:46

a generational thing. Where people's

31:48

lives just watching this a large amount of

31:50

reduce coming through they can. These people not

31:53

skyn read are just so. Inefficient just to

31:55

anyone watching people play video games. Reminds me

31:57

of being a kid and he would go

31:59

over to someone. The house and like you would

32:01

have to sit around and watch their brother play

32:03

video games like this. I find this incredibly dogs

32:05

like the one of the best things. About begin

32:07

Adam is the I get to play my yeah

32:09

video games and I. Don't have to share my

32:12

consulate anyone because your sex segregation as you make

32:14

your husband have his own it's to at he

32:16

plays sit down, Says the like to blame

32:18

them Bioshock upstairs to saucy com. Essa

32:20

that's God made the two genders

32:22

like that and obsessing separates. So

32:25

in December, Twenty Twenty two Brewers, his

32:27

producer caught low. she started sniffing around

32:30

Summer Ten. She was one of the

32:32

people who'd spread the rumor that in

32:34

Florida as he gender and she also

32:36

tweeted around that same time that she'd

32:39

heard that Summer Ten had plagiarized some

32:41

of his videos. So she starts poking

32:43

around, asking questions. and then a full

32:45

year later. So December third, Twenty Twenty

32:48

Three: Harry Brewers H Bomber Guy. Trump

32:50

Says Bombshell video entitled Plagiarism and you

32:52

tube this three hours and sixty one

32:54

minutes long talent you want to take

32:56

a bathroom break of we Want says.

32:59

Oh No. No

33:02

against assists so if you

33:04

break it down, lids. Jessica,

33:06

the eighties baby heroically did.

33:09

The. Video consists of one hour and forty

33:11

nine minutes. Abreu is calling out Minority

33:13

to Birth for plagiarism, and the remaining

33:15

two hours and one minute or focus

33:17

entirely on James Somerton and the Summer

33:19

Sun. Content starts with a chapter untitled,

33:21

the twists you expected. Let's watch the

33:23

beginning of that here. The first video

33:26

of his I ever saw was about disease

33:28

relationship with the queer community and in it

33:30

he claims Disney set up an event called

33:32

Game Night and claims to give the profits

33:35

to charities, but actually kept the money during

33:37

the nineteen Nineties. Do these parts also try

33:39

profiting from their Lgbt fans by creating Game

33:41

Night a one night he or event of

33:43

parks were Lgbt folk would be the main

33:46

guess? It was a big hit. Initially, the

33:48

revenue was all to be donated to the

33:50

Aid for Aids Foundation, but by ninety ninety

33:52

five donations to the charity had dried up.

33:55

Disney was keeping all the profits for

33:58

themselves. He's miss remember Really well known

34:00

event. Again, I was not set up

34:02

by Disney. They didn't sanction it's a

34:04

travel agency. Rented the park out for

34:06

the night and they kept the money

34:09

they were supposed to have donated. This

34:11

is a bit sloppy, but then he

34:13

claims that more progressive Ceo Bob Iger

34:15

expanded game nights into full day day

34:18

events under his stewardship to me switched

34:20

from the once a year gay know

34:22

that Disney parks to the food Gay

34:24

Day's event, rebranding the occasion into a

34:26

more family friendly affair. Now obviously I

34:29

get couldn't rebrand. Something Disney wasn't

34:31

doing and have no control over

34:33

Days is actually a completely separate

34:35

event, which is also unofficial and

34:37

unsanctioned by Disney. Also, it started

34:39

before game night and fifteen years

34:41

before I get became Ceo is

34:44

kind of impressive how wrong this

34:46

was. He's giving fucking Disney credit

34:48

for the actions of independent queer

34:50

people. It really downplays the work

34:52

that people put into organizing stuff

34:54

like a Days. It's super disappointing.

34:57

honestly. So the video is is

34:59

full of examples of Summer Ten just

35:01

getting set wrong and as far as

35:03

points out, his whole thing is about

35:05

out elevating marginalized groups like Disney Gays.

35:08

and he gets it so wrong that

35:10

he continually a racism and just as

35:12

an example like he also claimed that

35:14

some Japanese ice skating enemy couldn't the

35:17

is virtually gay his hands wanted to

35:19

because Japan has a law restricting their

35:21

content to nighttime fairly. With all the

35:23

wrong about that Ambrose says basically summers

35:25

and read something on twitter. He

35:27

doesn't bother to fact check it, he puts

35:30

in his videos people repeat and he just

35:32

spread misinformation all over the place. And then

35:34

he gets to the plagiarism stuff normally. In

35:36

the situation, I would just know watch his

35:38

videos and live my life. But over the

35:40

last couple of years Summer Sun has been

35:42

repeatedly accused of plagiarism. In response, some Sun

35:44

is claimed he never ripped off any one

35:46

and the times he did weren't even that

35:48

bad. Anyway, if if I had been plagiarizing

35:50

videos. I. Wouldn't.

35:53

Have. A channel.

35:56

I would be called out all the time by people

35:58

saying he stole my shit. But. I

36:00

don't plagiarize the one time that

36:03

there actually was plagiarism. It.

36:05

Was by mistake. And I fixed

36:07

it immediately and it is no longer. In.

36:09

My video. And the

36:12

other to accusations one with silly that's

36:14

an. Interesting way of saying he

36:16

didn't do it. Ah, when three or

36:18

four separate videos have three or four

36:20

separate plagiarism controversies. a tad. There's

36:23

not three or four summers and is

36:25

telling the truth here. There. Are

36:27

not three or four accusations. Whenever these allegations

36:29

are brought up, however, a son of his

36:31

will normally pop up to accuse them of

36:33

harassing a gay man and claim this is

36:35

all part of a deliberate homophobic campaign against

36:38

a clear creator. By I don't mean to

36:40

be rape, I can practically hear this man's

36:42

fedora. You know when I

36:44

mean like I still a few months if. Is like I

36:46

don't see. He studied very fast game reviews

36:48

and talking can be quickly into his microphone

36:51

from that that bit. but. I think

36:53

the thing it's really we'd be as and

36:55

I would never have thought that there was

36:57

an audience for people so intensely passing people's

36:59

casual speech in a bit when he says

37:02

like. And that's right. You are

37:04

unclean. Plagiarism. Silly. that's a strange.

37:06

Way of denying it new like but it is a

37:08

with the web denying if something silly you think it's

37:11

true and but also. Why we having this argument?

37:13

Why Why why am I think I'm I'm

37:15

like that's what a couple of scholar. Poring

37:17

over the kind of texts. Isn't that what? Why

37:19

is is what needs it has become. see. Has

37:21

a massive audience for this sort of thought into

37:23

you might want to think about pivoting. And

37:26

see what? the other thing I just. Thought the reason I laughed when

37:28

I said listen to as i if he's he's giving old

37:30

is kind of my and I just felt a responsibility to

37:32

the community but you can do to tell really bad she

37:35

wouldn't with him is his massively successful in he thinks a

37:37

bit of a hack and then says it struck me this.

37:39

In some ways Summit in his his. kind of like he's. White

37:41

Whale. It's like his Michael Hope is lost.

37:43

I do What? Why do people like this

37:45

stuff would have? I don't when I think

37:47

it's bad. Was I completely understand? Okay,

37:49

so the summers and says he didn't

37:52

plagiarize, but Brewers has lots of receipts

37:54

so he says late in the video

37:56

he says summers and video transcripts are

37:58

frequently plagiarize Word for word. From articles

38:00

he found online or documentaries, he has

38:02

a club. At one point I'm somewhat

38:05

him just reading straight from Wikipedia for

38:07

several minutes, which unless you're going by

38:09

the Bill Ackman definition of plagiarism definitely

38:11

counts. and Bruce sounds mad a nightclub

38:14

that we just listen to, but he

38:16

also seems kind of conflicted about his

38:18

own role and airing Summer to The

38:20

Dirty Laundry. I don't know I'm supposed

38:22

to do about this. I

38:25

don't even know if I should be making

38:27

this video. I was just

38:29

trying to double check two or

38:31

three olds plagiarism accusations. And

38:34

I ended up finding a whole

38:36

bunch more. and I have functionally

38:38

made a drama video about some

38:40

guy. And. Worse

38:42

is this video goes up

38:44

and as monetized and and

38:47

guess views I have been

38:49

paid financially rewarded for making

38:51

this. I.

38:53

Don't find unacceptable. Especially

38:56

not when the story is really about

38:58

people who would never compensated for their

39:00

work being stolen. So to make sure

39:02

I have no financial incentives to make

39:04

a video like this again, I'm going

39:06

to be dividing any of the ad

39:08

revenue this video makes among the creators

39:10

James stole from. I'll be conducting a

39:12

thorough examination of every video games has

39:15

posted including the many he has deleted.

39:17

I can find all kinds of and

39:19

contact everyone I can. I think that will use

39:21

of here is some Ema. Think. About lot because I

39:23

think about it. my journalism which is you just

39:25

have so little control. Now if you drop a

39:27

grenade somewhere about what you're going to do to

39:30

someone's. Life. And new that kiwi

39:32

for phrase of not touching the pace. If

39:34

you have a thousand people in your audience

39:36

you know not point one percent of them

39:38

touch to pay. that's the pool is still

39:40

been touched. Randomly and I just think

39:42

that. I can understand that. Feeling of

39:44

reluctance about the i just don't know what the consequences

39:46

are. A full of what it is that you're you're

39:49

putting out there now and in you can't control and

39:51

you have to be okay with that even if you

39:53

don't. Know. I be. I think

39:55

about that all the time, and I come up

39:57

with these sort of almost arbitrary metrics about. What

40:00

is like what is a valid enough

40:02

story for me to cover on the

40:04

show and what it often comes down

40:06

to is yours Like? does somebody have

40:08

enough followers? Which is it in that's

40:10

kind of arbitrary to. it's not like

40:13

once you have. Fifty

40:15

thousand followers are hundred thousand followers Your

40:17

immune from the effects of social authorization?

40:19

You're not. I mean if I had

40:21

my way I would do this show

40:23

never ausubel for comment and they would

40:25

never ever find out that we did

40:27

a show about of unfortunately asked for

40:29

comment is also a necessary part of

40:31

their in journalism. I may have another

40:33

thing that really separates. The people I think

40:35

of is being those kind of you know

40:37

a me to think people who a podcast

40:39

isn't there since she chat show hosts from

40:41

people who journalists because there is nothing that

40:43

is haunted and going to somebody. And you know

40:45

I have done this where you have to go to some in say so.

40:48

I got pretty good evidence that your you

40:50

know a player is your sex pest, your

40:52

a racist would not comment on that and

40:54

most people would just would rather die than

40:56

do those things because they and people are

40:59

completely avoidance. but you have to do me

41:01

of to legally you have to ethically. And

41:03

it is the difference You can't his. Ring the doorbell

41:06

and and. Runaway, right? I mean, I'm in

41:08

the fortunate position that most people just ignore me.

41:11

Yeah I guess is even getting specific of the baby

41:14

daily Atlanta or at a different yes as and unfortunately

41:16

like that ema just as let people because he and

41:18

this is gonna cause I'm some problems as a sunset

41:20

it's on the other thing that people day when is

41:23

if they were really trying guilt trip you and that's

41:25

i had a dog rather some was. Incredibly rude

41:27

to me than the people trying and of

41:29

like make you feel bad about stuff and

41:31

I'm quite susceptible to that's I have had

41:34

to hard and hard my high them over

41:36

some time. I am to add

41:38

their stories that I've been working

41:40

on recently. that someone. Basically.

41:43

Begged me not to cover as it will ruin

41:45

their lives. And I will. Often

41:47

times I will. I will listen to them.

41:49

And then I mean my hope is always

41:51

that they will combat. They'll come back later

41:53

and say okay I'm ready to have the

41:55

story told you to fill a pretty brutal

41:57

prices. And I think of you know it.

42:00

I think most of the other thing is that

42:02

lots of people who are mentally unwell or unstable

42:04

seat attention. Yeah, that's very difficult because sometimes you

42:06

do have to do stories. About people who

42:08

want any really particularly great place, but they've

42:11

hurt other people and they shouldn't be allowed

42:13

to do them without consequence. And

42:15

then not the only person in the world

42:17

And that combat again you have to the

42:19

was that phrase the Grim Reapers I am

42:21

a sliver of ice in your hawks to

42:23

to come countless a browser Yes but but

42:26

you have to. You have to. Take

42:28

the view that is the story is important

42:30

to know send you have to be okay

42:32

with a bag to consequences to during it's

42:34

but it totally. Yeah, I mean I think

42:36

that isn't that is a part of being a you mentioned

42:38

Jk Rowling. Paid for unless I

42:41

don't. We get that and part of me as

42:43

or less as as you have to. Come.

42:45

To terms with the fact that people aren't necessarily and

42:47

a like you have, some people will but oftentimes unit

42:49

pissing people off and think journalists like to tell themselves

42:52

that were just like speaking truth to power and not

42:54

deluding myself. A that's true and like a Some of

42:56

the Scissors makes good stories of people. What an insane

42:58

and I'm here right worms? Well yeah but then he

43:00

was. The thing I mean to get by Kate Middleton

43:02

is all the people. I'm sure the same people. Who

43:05

said hi? Tablet was row privacy invasion. oh in

43:07

of it which the crown and they sell the

43:09

Beastie Press straight on into her desk bump lameness

43:11

of the same people making. Tix of it is

43:13

a bias Princess Charlotte sleeve is in Cook so. What

43:15

does this tell me about their marriage and like it's

43:18

just natural prune human clear as to but when people

43:20

have that pointed at them there and them to be

43:22

quite defensive about to but you that I. Can hear

43:24

why did you have a decent about. Good news

43:26

because you wouldn't read it the page

43:28

or I'm very sorry that we're in

43:30

a we now know exactly what it

43:32

is the people read and it is

43:34

a cruel and prairie and right and

43:36

intrusive and about sex and drugs and

43:38

death to. Their own when it's the when it's

43:41

the a public figure was the world, family or

43:43

even as same as you to where you can

43:45

tell yourself that you're punching up. People's.

43:47

It's not like it's not like having money shield

43:50

you from the reality Being human, were having followers

43:52

especially. Yeah, Unending. That's where punching up came. From

43:54

as a discuss it with a way for people

43:56

to trade in very simple moral certainty to to

43:59

be cruel and feel a gray about it basically

44:01

because it was essentially you deserve I. Like to

44:03

punch Dell and I mostly like to punch down as is

44:05

easier I don't have to look up. doesn't hurt my neck.

44:08

But now I mean that's a great

44:10

other for poker face puns nine and

44:12

you just have multiplies grapes the way

44:14

alumnus access a list of the this

44:16

this poor guy a identity as you

44:19

do anything that was worse than the

44:21

couple of instances of plagiarism and there

44:23

are other allegations against since. Okay, so

44:25

there are other allegations are in the

44:27

traps are entitled shouldn't need to do

44:29

this. Brewers calls out Summer Ten for

44:31

massage. Any so for example, And

44:33

his video Summer since video is called

44:35

the Troubling Thirst for Jeffrey Dahmer his

44:37

source material. It was an article by

44:39

a woman named sure Body doesn't The.

44:42

Featured. The Senate's quote now people, Earth

44:44

or thing for Dahmer by purchasing tickets and

44:46

tweeting about his suppose that attractiveness and then

44:48

in summer to video this because there is

44:50

a thirst for Dahmer made apparent on tic

44:53

toc and twitter with hordes of white women

44:55

droning over how attractive years. Since

44:58

his illnesses or exotics of the inserted the

45:00

words white women and this is proof of

45:02

his was other they have some essentially that

45:04

through his wife it's. Cool

45:06

that they start women like me and say

45:09

that if he says lackland Air B S.

45:12

Nine. And and but somebody pointed out there

45:14

was a for i'm emphasize about like the what

45:16

night and twenty nineteen to twenty twenty one where

45:18

you could submit to things he. Said. About women

45:20

if you like of mine and white women,

45:22

women are so annoying. White women are so

45:25

annoying see as he. Says it's true that

45:27

that the same thing the same thing exists with

45:29

men users whiteman say white man the was is

45:31

like that a swipe says why gay or oh

45:33

yeah it's it's true you can just insert these

45:36

was say again say but you're punching up on

45:38

it and in if you're a guy and you

45:40

so so that he what he's done here ironically

45:42

for game and is he the raise the many.

45:44

White Game any presumed Yosef and

45:47

Jeffrey Dahmer Quite attractive. Like his

45:49

is this don't see Initially I meant

45:51

that was true. Yes. So Bruce's find

45:53

a lot of plagiarism at least twenty

45:56

two of summer, since Sixty Six publish

45:58

videos on Youtube contains plagiarize. Hundred and

46:00

then after Bruce's video dropped, Redditors

46:02

sniffed out even more plagiarism and

46:04

the H Bomber Guy Discord now

46:06

features a channel devoted to finding

46:08

all of the sources that summer

46:11

and ripped off. Wonder that

46:13

are also put together. A good hub

46:15

of summer since transcript to encourage internet

46:17

sleuths is when the fun with have

46:19

a real track the true crime situation.

46:21

So the H Bomber Guy video created

46:23

major waves. There are hundreds thousands of

46:25

response videos across the internet and the

46:28

original video now has over eighteen million

46:30

views. As. Intense. Hatred

46:32

Semitic Spot. So he took down the

46:34

specific videos that brewers had called out

46:36

and he might have been able to

46:38

wriggle his way out of it. But

46:40

it turns out that Bruce's video was

46:42

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51:43

day Answer Brewers releases video, another big you

51:45

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51:47

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51:50

an old school he tumor and he's been

51:52

making content since twenty Ten. He's a musical

51:54

be are so literally all of his other

51:56

videos or music reviews but he felt compelled

51:59

to release his. Own addition to the

52:01

Summers and Take out of Rock and

52:03

his was entitled i Fact Check the

52:05

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52:07

a mere one hour and forty two

52:09

minutes long, so it's that practically tic

52:11

toc legs and comparison diversity of And

52:13

it doesn't touch on the plagiarism, instead

52:15

he just focuses on everything So it

52:17

and got incorrect in his career as

52:19

a video essayist. So if you watch

52:21

one overly long You Tube video about James

52:23

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52:25

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52:27

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52:30

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52:32

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52:34

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said the reason Hitler murdered Earth's Rom who

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was a leader of the Nazi Party is

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because he was sad to see. The

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52:49

with homosexuals. He said Nazis

52:51

invented our current body centered.

52:53

Standards. He. Said Disney

52:55

Princesses are marketed funerals, And.

52:58

The claim that really pissed off. Somerton.

53:01

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53:03

the nineties didn't care about employment

53:05

discrimination and only cared about bourgeois

53:07

values like marriage. To do that,

53:09

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53:11

speech by Doctor Evil in the first

53:14

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53:16

make outrageous claims like a convicted The

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53:20

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53:22

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53:24

or the Belgian Sheepdog city name's Chloe

53:27

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53:29

I'm pretty sure I'm willing to be

53:31

fact checked on this. That and Css

53:33

was teeming with a message to. The.

53:36

Cross Dresses and all of the Nazis

53:39

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53:41

and that's a good thing. I'm a

53:43

bit of an abundance of Nazi sick.

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it. They debuted at least, which is about

53:50

the way that these amphetamines and other things

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53:54

such things that we now gifted children who

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53:58

by the Nazis. I'm intrigued by gay porn

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inventing Skype. However, I guess it's a bit like one

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of the season as A B C Max. B M

54:05

B C L War supposedly was decided by

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54:09

right? so I might I believe that night

54:11

crop of that but I'm I'm glad that

54:13

someone is doing important fact checking him at

54:16

the number of homosexual. This is God's work.

54:18

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54:20

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54:22

shadows and his repeating a disclaimer. Submergence Gay

54:24

rights activists in the nineties Worth

54:26

fighting against employment discrimination, the battles

54:29

that rose out of the Aids

54:31

epidemic. For. Gay people.

54:34

Were. Access To Marriage and Military

54:36

Service When once the Queer community

54:38

was focused on creating the best

54:40

art and living lives worth telling

54:43

stories about. The. Nineteen

54:45

nineties brought on a new goal. How

54:49

best to fit in? So. Many

54:51

of the gays left alive once the

54:53

Clinton administration came into being. Work to

54:55

be frank, The. Boring

54:57

ones. The gays who knew nobody and

55:00

who nobody knew. And

55:02

they rose to the top of the community and

55:04

therefore, their priorities rose to the top of the

55:06

community as well. And

55:09

what are they want? Apparently.

55:12

They. Wanted to join the army and have big gay

55:14

weddings. General. Employment

55:16

nondiscrimination wasn't all that important to

55:18

them, making sexuality and gender identity

55:21

a protected class along with sex,

55:23

race, and religion wasn't that important

55:25

to them. They.

55:27

Want his marriage and military.

55:30

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55:33

The Naughty Gaze who are

55:35

sleeping around and dying of

55:37

Aids know the poor gays

55:39

who couldn't make political contributions.

55:42

They. Were the gays with families

55:44

and commitments, ceremonies and office jobs

55:46

and houses? Hoo

55:48

Boy! This was the first claim

55:50

that really got my attention as

55:53

the entire reason why I watch

55:55

the rest of his stuff disregarding.

55:58

Whatever. Else you want to say about a thousand. Yes,

56:01

Gay activists were absolutely fighting against

56:03

employment discrimination and for protected status

56:06

for sexuality. Those were the fights

56:08

of the nineties. I heard about

56:10

that shit all the time. There

56:12

was a big giant movie about

56:15

it. During the nineties alone, Lgbt

56:17

activists got employee protections pass in

56:19

seventeen states, as well as an

56:21

executive order from President Clinton name

56:24

nice, Ninety Eight protecting them on

56:26

a federal level due to pressure

56:28

from gay organizations. And I'm. This

56:31

is drifting from pure fact checking a tiny

56:33

bit. but it is not true that marriage

56:35

and military service was only a goal for

56:37

rich, conservative gays. Rich. People don't

56:39

join the military. Rich. People can

56:42

hire lawyers to write civil union contract

56:44

in lieu of mirrors protection or I I

56:46

can't move. Recent movie it was made

56:48

about game time for Texans. Philadelphia,

56:51

With oh that was yeah. Okay the thing that's

56:53

funny to me about the is well. America was

56:55

making very weighty films about m the Aids

56:57

crisis but we ask him Britain is Chris

56:59

Marks making an city? Have you seen the

57:01

kit from the day. To day where he does a

57:03

fake talk. Sites and it's people talking about that,

57:05

their experiences with with Aids and the guy talks

57:08

about it and then he reveals that he got

57:10

it from gay Sex of the Huskers know. You

57:12

got bad. Eight. Months

57:14

at a seat. On to us. It's

57:17

yeah. Anyway, So was it

57:19

was nowhere near as as where the content. that

57:22

all that felt like as the of. Them. Summit

57:24

and suffer a kind of like a personal attack

57:26

on Andrew Sullivan. Basically the. Same

57:29

sweet as his thirties. Yeah except

57:31

Andrew is find an Andrew has

57:33

Aids is didn't die of ads

57:35

that yes the fun Rc Rnc

57:37

days died of Aids and so

57:39

that's why we have gay marriages

57:41

that of day or these and

57:43

and Taught in the shadows. He

57:45

doesn't explain that. Someone's only source

57:47

for this rather significant claim that

57:49

he's making is a single quotes

57:52

from France Leave a Lads. Who

57:54

said, I'll paraphrase hear? The.

57:56

First people who died of Aids that late alive.

57:58

They were the great art. The ones

58:00

who are left with a boring ones but the

58:02

thing is is causing a shout shout as points

58:04

out. Shouldn't. I'm a policy or

58:07

even a fight for gay rights. She was

58:09

talking about the audience for cultural events, specifically

58:11

the New York belay. Plus, she's friendly village

58:13

she's She's like she talks a lot of

58:15

shit. She rambles, that's what she does. Yeah,

58:17

I just I think there was. It's underlying.

58:19

There was a good point know which was

58:21

about. The fact that the Gay rights movement find

58:23

a certain conservatism an Alliance building was a great

58:25

way to achieve that aims right round the know

58:27

if we want to smash the nuclear family in

58:29

her death and. It was

58:32

kind of like know when I would come later

58:34

when normal and just like. You I'm what we

58:36

want to do is I have normal relationships

58:38

and where we go will hotdogs together and

58:40

you know by cutlery. If it, it

58:42

was incredibly successful. it actually worked

58:44

right. Until after the second big

58:47

video attack on Summer Ten, the

58:49

floodgates opened. Everyone wanted a

58:51

slice of the action. Jesse Gender,

58:53

the creator that Somerton had a

58:55

beef with. about nebula that video

58:57

platform. She popped up again.

58:59

She said that she'd invited him to

59:01

join a discord with Nebula folks to

59:03

discuss whatever issues he had with them

59:05

and he never did. and he never

59:08

contacted them. And she said on quarter

59:10

twelve he just wanted to play the

59:12

victim and earlier. Remember when I said

59:14

that James complain on after he got

59:16

dog pile for that bad tweet about

59:18

trips the prostitutes princesses mental health He

59:20

said he lost money on p Three

59:22

On while a guy named Dan Olson

59:24

who runs a You Tube channel called

59:26

Folding Ideas. He did a long twitter

59:28

thread accusing. James of lying about his

59:30

patriarch figures to griff money from his

59:32

followers. that thread.fifteen thousand lakes so people

59:34

were just they were loving this. This

59:36

was like the party of the century

59:38

if I think boring. From a computer is

59:40

bad and I don't encourage him. The only. Thing is

59:43

actually kind of victimless crime, but it is.

59:45

There is a kind of com. Your results

59:47

of the whole point is to kind of

59:49

raise the bar of of human knowledge of

59:51

making better informed. Was there any actual individual

59:53

writers that got ripped off by him? Yes,

59:56

one of those was a former rocks

59:58

writer Caitlin Burns close. Personal friend

1:00:00

of Jesse's So she said on Twitter

1:00:02

that he lifted passages of a bad

1:00:04

article that she wrote on transmitted Jk

1:00:07

Rowling for his bad video on transmit

1:00:09

as she came rolling. And that does

1:00:11

seem to be true. That thing about

1:00:13

Rupert Murdoch is Sheila Jeffreys that I

1:00:15

mention and you're like what the fuck

1:00:17

was that she she tricks from Caitlin

1:00:19

Bird. she just hates Australian. Compare the

1:00:21

business, the Us and Uk brass probably

1:00:23

mostly. You got a writer named Get

1:00:26

A Jackson also published a blog post

1:00:28

titled please Stop Asking Me To Jitsu.

1:00:30

James Summer Ten he apparently read verbatim

1:00:32

from an article that she wrote for

1:00:34

Vice on Attack of the Day and

1:00:36

and that included quotes that she got

1:00:38

from academics and other sources He's he

1:00:40

did plagiarize like that is It is

1:00:42

very well documented. Some really good question

1:00:44

there because one of the problems I

1:00:46

have with Internet debate, napping and Internet

1:00:48

disgusting. So video. Based in order, based

1:00:50

is it's really taught to cite sources and

1:00:52

stop and. And people to sort of a things and

1:00:55

they seem. Very beginning plausible and this a

1:00:57

charismatic innocent on my Bbc series A

1:00:59

New Gurus was all about. With that,

1:01:01

we just like to listen to attractive,

1:01:03

interesting people chat shit. And they

1:01:05

don't. You know it just has to flow verse in

1:01:07

this kind of wave of discourse. It's not like reading

1:01:09

an academic. Article where everything is very careful and

1:01:11

fall a good academic a score of these Kaplan

1:01:13

so some reference. That general send it

1:01:15

is really hard to put. I can't imagine what you

1:01:17

tube. Video with footnotes would kind

1:01:20

of looks like. Exactly. I guess there are

1:01:22

some at the way. I mean even a podcast.

1:01:24

I mean we do a ton of research. We

1:01:26

do tons of research for these of as as

1:01:28

I know it doesn't sound like about we actually

1:01:30

do it on a research and we try to

1:01:32

be good about putting our sources in the show.

1:01:34

Notes: But. It there

1:01:36

isn't awkwardness a belt. Doing

1:01:39

citations on a podcast or video the

1:01:41

way that even footnote tax is just

1:01:43

much less awkward. That said, he, in

1:01:45

some cases he was reading verbatim from

1:01:48

people's. Articles that eminence beyond cheeky. I mean, that's

1:01:50

about point, right? I, you know, I think I

1:01:52

think there's a real promise, haven't caught. But we

1:01:54

get people are at the top end and they

1:01:56

produce such a huge volume of work and they

1:01:58

do it by chewing up. Paris sighting of

1:02:01

the work of if you're much less

1:02:03

well rewarded in well paid and that

1:02:05

rabid. Is. Unjust. The and.

1:02:07

I think that is the thing that really pisses people

1:02:09

off about this plus state. You know they threw in

1:02:11

that most of the people he was ripping. Content.

1:02:13

Off of work. Queer. Marginalized Leveller. Strange

1:02:15

that there were trans woman of color

1:02:18

in. There is also an issue with

1:02:20

money. So one of his alleged victims

1:02:22

was a duo that goes by the

1:02:24

name the a couple of this is

1:02:26

a married couple that doesn't fox. their

1:02:28

names are Courtney and Race And on

1:02:30

December thirteenth they publish a podcast called

1:02:32

We Were Personally Victimized by James Summers.

1:02:34

It's the personally. Victimized. the I think

1:02:36

makes it to deliberately sit to the level

1:02:39

of all right was that we would impose

1:02:41

the because of a class action suit says

1:02:43

no us. His family had

1:02:45

this as on the things I think

1:02:47

people twentieth time will it back on

1:02:50

it really be is like carbon dating

1:02:52

they'll be mentally or that came from

1:02:54

the twenty twenty three. So what happened

1:02:56

is at an early twenty twenty two

1:02:58

summers and launched an Indigo campaign of

1:03:00

still fundraising came campaign for telos eating

1:03:02

a laser that tillers pictures healers it's

1:03:04

ancient Greek katie. The

1:03:07

studio he was standing that would make a

1:03:09

Lgbt sobs. Is that how you say? Sagarin

1:03:11

Green Siblings I can't tell ya. the Jesus,

1:03:13

the City of. Knowledge. She said corporate,

1:03:16

I know if. It's

1:03:18

so this couple korea growth they

1:03:20

got excited about this because they

1:03:22

think a sexual don't get enough

1:03:24

representation. I guess what to do

1:03:26

they not what children says that's

1:03:28

all a sexual and apparently they

1:03:30

think I think I'd I mean

1:03:33

a here at so I go

1:03:35

past now I'm London Bridge station.

1:03:37

Clad it was college sides on his got one that

1:03:39

got the symbol pie on it which I genuinely thought

1:03:41

was pop up his take. The

1:03:43

ferry flag and like the ice and slices.

1:03:45

Of this effect. but I just I.

1:03:48

I just feel like be asexual pride

1:03:50

has been put on as to make

1:03:52

me turn into a reactionary blow. Aren't

1:03:54

know, I. Don't want to be somebody sitting

1:03:56

on twitter going you don't have sex know

1:03:58

but skull being married. Like

1:04:01

is that when northern Club comedian from the

1:04:03

nineteen seventies. but come on it's not a

1:04:05

struggle. If you don't want think that's fine.

1:04:07

but I don't need to hear about insights

1:04:09

hunt boring of hearing about people's effect size

1:04:11

that the new about my lack of I

1:04:13

although I absolutely hate Saxon in movies I

1:04:15

don't like the sound of the kissing it's

1:04:18

like to me it's like hearing somebody to

1:04:20

eliott he that paid it actually hit it

1:04:22

at so I actually do think there should

1:04:24

be more a sexual rep representation of movies

1:04:26

that were wouldn't have other watches. Sexy. Anyway,

1:04:29

I was poor things at the retailers

1:04:31

and I strongly recommend stay away from

1:04:33

that fell I I. I lasted ninety

1:04:35

seconds. I didn't even get to the

1:04:37

sex part, I just turned it off

1:04:39

because it was a black and white

1:04:41

and be rt right? Okay, I mean.

1:04:45

Yeah, it wasn't. Quite quite three animals have been sewn

1:04:47

together. You might have like that, but you wouldn't have like that.

1:04:49

I wish you guys I work in a brothel. That would have

1:04:51

been. Know you know my dad apparently

1:04:53

when he was courting my mother is. To see what

1:04:55

make them go whenever they must be some people kissing

1:04:57

on screen cinema which receive said on guess. At the

1:04:59

end of people kissing he would make this noisy. Suffered.

1:05:03

In a that it's. A

1:05:05

mysterious Have they been married for

1:05:07

like six years? I digress. Assist

1:05:10

six lay. So much about use.

1:05:13

Okay so they wanted to support this

1:05:16

because they think like for in their

1:05:18

mid their brains as a couple they

1:05:20

think that that counts as queer. They.

1:05:23

Talk to James and answers. He wrote

1:05:25

intended to represent a sexual from hire a

1:05:27

Sexual as part of this film production thing,

1:05:29

and he suggests Gore's a sexual or queer

1:05:32

or whatever. So they decided to join his

1:05:34

Indigo campaign at the highest level, which

1:05:36

would have gotten them. Executive producer credits: Advanced

1:05:38

Greetings Merge They could have a T shirt

1:05:41

that says i don't I thought it and

1:05:43

they were about to get him twelve

1:05:45

hundred dollars And this is what happens next.

1:05:47

You remember what I said to you. This

1:05:49

is what extra embarrassing do you remember what

1:05:52

I said to. You. Before I click the button,

1:05:54

In vague terms, but I have the feeling

1:05:56

that it's burned into your brain a lot

1:05:59

more clearly. I. Looked over to

1:06:01

you and I said are

1:06:03

we really about to give

1:06:05

vs much money to with

1:06:07

pets white guy that we

1:06:09

do not. Know personally. And.

1:06:11

We had a final little like if

1:06:14

it's for the a community is it

1:06:16

helps us if we can get several

1:06:18

bit the representation out there it'll have

1:06:21

been worth it but I there was

1:06:23

There is a voice in the back

1:06:25

of my head is that was shaming

1:06:28

me the boys in the back of

1:06:30

my head with they don't you dare

1:06:32

give this much money to a dude

1:06:35

that you don't even know He did

1:06:37

not even a thing itself like that

1:06:39

voices telling me that end I ignored.

1:06:42

Those alarm bells And that is why this. Is

1:06:44

so embarrassed I say no to

1:06:46

be by Do Now Really Be

1:06:49

super. Don't have sex. Athena

1:06:51

when I may may be days. They both.

1:06:53

They both looked like the sun and the

1:06:55

time. like working at the. Said.

1:06:57

The indeed ice on just a fancy some

1:06:59

I'm sorry this is terrible. I'm attacking my

1:07:01

my my ned. People here this is the run

1:07:04

game where. I am saying.

1:07:06

They. Decided need. To.

1:07:09

Help be a community by donating.

1:07:11

To know they did Mister Trump they did. I write

1:07:13

a case in which essentially the money to send that

1:07:15

we didn't even seen a kiss or this and I

1:07:17

could not having sex. I saved a lot of money.

1:07:19

I guess if he didn't have kids they say to

1:07:21

have. Sex costs a

1:07:24

lot of money. I. Know where he led to stay. Gonna

1:07:26

have you got about the swings you going to buy them?

1:07:28

For. A suffer through very hard

1:07:30

to keep a bug hydrated. Katie understand

1:07:32

him in. The good I like about

1:07:35

this is how how he makes and

1:07:37

sorry. That that that switch to my. Siri.

1:07:42

I swear I have an act activated when

1:07:44

I took about both us and. Set Piece

1:07:46

Carry on. There's the of their so concerned

1:07:48

about giving money to a white guy. Like.

1:07:51

Lewinsky screens that these a white guy live

1:07:53

race. Would you guess that these two people

1:07:55

are one of whom as a male? What

1:07:57

does? Guess. I can eighty. I mean that.

1:08:01

Thank you know he moink the Canadian. A lot

1:08:03

of people in this area been saying eat By

1:08:05

the way I just as for so little my

1:08:07

stereotypes by Canadians of enduring. Mess. Decide

1:08:10

where I put a photo in the

1:08:12

nodes. tell him freezes feather. Ah,

1:08:18

If he he he. Ah,

1:08:20

so I'm They are just

1:08:22

as vampires. Ah and. It

1:08:24

which is weird because vampires or the sexiest

1:08:26

of the goal vampires love. To bang.

1:08:28

I've seen tree bloody, the come out

1:08:31

them am unable to. The whole idea

1:08:33

of vampirism like exchanging fluids is a

1:08:35

metaphor for sex anyway. Let's. Not

1:08:38

take well with them but they have no

1:08:40

any vampires with a Victorian vampires say she's

1:08:42

in a kind them from a big poofy.

1:08:44

Hair and and a course in a

1:08:46

bustle. He's. Got the classic season I

1:08:48

t long hair waistcoat, top hat,

1:08:53

And they mustn't let my eyeliner on the

1:08:55

city. I probably go of within quite well.

1:08:58

Like I mentioned, Carlo said interesting com and

1:09:00

not sex as it had them since. Innocence

1:09:02

in comments. And out what race with you say

1:09:04

the sewer of the say. What I mean. Like

1:09:07

the wide open recall a size. Of they

1:09:10

are Dos Edu a proud of

1:09:12

themselves. Why? We go from. There

1:09:15

is there white people in white face. Is

1:09:18

sixty? That's disgusting. Anyway, so they

1:09:20

don't need donated twelve hundred dollars in

1:09:22

total. James raise about sixty five thousand

1:09:24

dollars for this company. He produced nothing

1:09:26

and according to the Indigo though page,

1:09:28

it took him eighteen months to even

1:09:30

incorporate the company. Maybe it's harder to

1:09:32

do in Canada on church and as

1:09:34

court he said he didn't update his

1:09:36

backers for fourteen months At this obviously

1:09:38

lead to a lot of questions from

1:09:40

his supporters. Like the top comment on

1:09:43

his Inigo Pages quote, stop hiding like

1:09:45

a coward, Say so you've done refund

1:09:47

all of us who supported you under

1:09:49

false. Pretenses including on p, three on.

1:09:51

There's. Also quote give us back our money

1:09:53

scammer That's in all caps and okay

1:09:55

it looks like the jig is up

1:09:57

time issue refunds and my personal favorites.

1:10:00

Do. You plan on featuring any transform characters in

1:10:02

your projects are not one, but many of

1:10:04

my close friends or than they often discuss are

1:10:06

underrepresented. They are agree spaces the media but

1:10:08

mostly see Love Him for reports. I mean as

1:10:11

demonstrated. By the poor quality, nice

1:10:13

baseless been both poems there was

1:10:15

getting eighty five as man's neck

1:10:17

cancer discuss his money. It's not

1:10:20

that high he really stick to. Could have just got

1:10:22

someone. On camera reading a terrible poem about being

1:10:24

a trans them and that would technically counted. I

1:10:26

knew I was expecting that he was gonna make

1:10:28

in. The new

1:10:30

Poor Things Or even though the new

1:10:33

Titanic Gay? Titanic? He could have had. Court

1:10:35

and recording race could have been on camera. not

1:10:38

fucking. Sick say you buy

1:10:40

it being Victorian. Go sexual. Porn

1:10:42

emphasis on that would have been fine. Like people were not

1:10:44

backing this because of the presumed call. This event put no

1:10:46

backing it because they thought it was part of a political.

1:10:48

Project by endorsed a knight. Frank be

1:10:50

is is laziness of him know to

1:10:52

take advantage but by phoning in the

1:10:54

absolute minimum that he could raise. His

1:10:56

at least a few updates and the other thing

1:10:59

is this is Canada where they actually fund artist

1:11:01

based on how marginalize they are and so I

1:11:03

feel like he didn't even need to do the

1:11:05

indigo though he said a guy this taxpayer funded

1:11:07

he really miss. A trip by not pretending that

1:11:09

he was it. Am a first nations person I've

1:11:11

been, so I mean empathic. Great piece of money.

1:11:13

You're from what I mean when you look into

1:11:15

it. The number for tendencies. Extreme to

1:11:17

until I've just had a sir. But

1:11:19

to Indian citizens whose mother claim that

1:11:21

they were Native American? just rinse money

1:11:23

and stuff. I think it's possible that there

1:11:25

are no actual Native Americans. Are there is

1:11:27

one academic or kim told by he

1:11:29

gets crazy and anything I think she

1:11:32

may be the only his own associations

1:11:34

person. In Canada is her and the woman who

1:11:36

is who is exposing the Britain the ants although maybe

1:11:38

she's a pretend the into that would be quite a

1:11:40

twist of with it but that is kind of classic.

1:11:42

Story Those those people. Are the

1:11:44

ones who most in a Jessica

1:11:46

a bumbling? Remember how necessary I

1:11:48

i minus her as a senate

1:11:50

to basically Kruger like to answer

1:11:52

yes or we believing. That this in

1:11:55

and this guy is doing what he's accused

1:11:57

of doing so. I think the allegations

1:11:59

that people. Like H Bomber guy and

1:12:01

taught in the shadows looked into or true I

1:12:03

think the a couple I think that stuff through

1:12:05

a mean you can see on the Indigo Go

1:12:07

campaign. he didn't do anything with this money. Early

1:12:09

seat stadium but it doesn't have the money like

1:12:11

sixty five thousand. Ours is obviously not enough money

1:12:13

to create a film studio, but he didn't. Communicate.

1:12:17

Well, with whatever he was dealing

1:12:19

with the money, I'm not sure

1:12:21

if he intentionally ripped off his

1:12:23

patrons and supporters are, if he's

1:12:25

just bad giving up dates. but

1:12:27

as with all internet drama, this

1:12:29

one did shifted mutate somewhat so

1:12:31

like one sub stacker posted about

1:12:34

a blog speculating that this whole

1:12:36

incident had been a coordinated take

1:12:38

down by Nebula to destroy this

1:12:40

project to Los Pictures missing their

1:12:42

own pillow. Still a lot of

1:12:44

very speculative, but Somerton. Really did

1:12:46

not seem to have a defenders and his

1:12:48

own co writer neck her got. He initially

1:12:50

claimed that he wasn't involved in the plagiarism

1:12:52

because he didn't do any the research and

1:12:54

then he made a public statement announcing that

1:12:56

he would no longer work with them are

1:12:58

dead and that the money donated for the

1:13:00

Indigo there should be returned. So did some

1:13:02

it's and do. While those advice to the

1:13:05

during prices pr which is just not same

1:13:07

thing and Karen is completely normal or did

1:13:09

he freaking eve freak out. So he for

1:13:12

she deleted all his You Tube videos,

1:13:14

his twitter account, his discord and is

1:13:16

Petri on account. And then on December

1:13:18

twenty first he released a fearful apology

1:13:20

video. It's only a half hour long

1:13:22

as is by far the shortest video

1:13:24

and the entire saga. but it's definitely

1:13:26

the hardest one to watch. So he

1:13:28

starts a video crying and saying that

1:13:30

he just got all the hospital after

1:13:32

being. Being treated for suicidal ideation.

1:13:34

I'm not to make you watch that part,

1:13:36

but I do want you to listen to

1:13:38

his apology. I want to

1:13:40

say that I'm. Really?

1:13:43

Really sorry. Really? Really?

1:13:46

Sword. Home.

1:13:54

Videos crediting people on.

1:14:02

Related videos you don't way. Into

1:14:06

the opening titles thing am.

1:14:10

I tried to. Put. Like this

1:14:12

is based on. X

1:14:14

is. This person's

1:14:16

research through this person's but I

1:14:18

know. I I know now that

1:14:20

that wasn't. I wasn't enough away

1:14:23

that okay that is hard to listen to

1:14:25

him because he doesn't. He said the

1:14:27

hesitant say. Of and the long

1:14:29

silences do make it sound very credible. I

1:14:31

mean he could be the wants him up

1:14:33

to a best actor but it is not

1:14:35

to sell Jam a tithing look at me

1:14:38

performance of Sarin as he Genovese has got

1:14:40

destroyed by it. So yes it did. That

1:14:42

make people. Laugh to to change the

1:14:44

narrative at all. Not at all. The

1:14:47

general consensus was that this is a

1:14:49

paint by numbers apology video. We've all

1:14:51

seen them a thousand times of

1:14:53

for James do Better People did not

1:14:56

accept his apology So like a tick

1:14:58

tock her name Carter Caltech he

1:15:00

made a now deleted that video asking

1:15:02

should we treat James Somerton with more

1:15:05

empathy and the answer was no

1:15:07

So yeah. So after the negative response

1:15:09

to this apology video Summer send deleted

1:15:11

it and he disappeared. From the internet

1:15:13

for two months that on February twenty six

1:15:16

he finally broke his silence for the second

1:15:18

apology video. This one is called a measured

1:15:20

response. It's much more highly produce and it

1:15:22

begins with the content warning for discussion of

1:15:24

self harm. So this is the beginning of

1:15:26

it. Ah, just a disclosure.

1:15:28

This video is monetized, but revenue

1:15:31

from it will be sent along

1:15:33

to H Bomber Guys team to

1:15:35

be dispersed to the people whose

1:15:37

work I plagiarized. Ah,

1:15:39

if his team won't accept it

1:15:42

all, be making monthly donations to

1:15:44

Wikipedia and Trans Lifeline going forward.

1:15:46

You may have also noticed that

1:15:48

a few of my past videos

1:15:50

have gone up on the channel

1:15:52

again and revenue from those as

1:15:55

well will also be sent along

1:15:57

with the revenue from this video

1:15:59

Said. In a Mate monthly, The Nation's

1:16:01

to Wikipedia and Trans Lifeline Soda Fascinating. That

1:16:03

is the kind of. Like a

1:16:05

medieval times is that a Pendleton sister the Pope the

1:16:08

he just said of have to it but it's. Translates

1:16:10

license I'd sign of all the charities.

1:16:12

I embassy run being Gary ruins the Acer

1:16:14

new be that one. An unlit. it

1:16:16

doesn't really. Other I do think they're I

1:16:18

do think they aren't. They got rid of

1:16:20

the embezzlers and they did. They discover that

1:16:22

I'm unless from Feel lawyers and but you're

1:16:25

right. This on. yes I'm American. I deserve

1:16:27

it out if one is is got the

1:16:29

kind of pulled. Focus and he is not

1:16:31

talking much more. Kind. Of fluently

1:16:33

I guess isn't. Yet it's not

1:16:35

as the wrong. It's not Israel and the

1:16:37

whole like our money ties this assessment by

1:16:39

it's I think it's really difficult. And be

1:16:42

bring the situation because he obviously you do

1:16:44

have to think about incredibly kathy however these

1:16:46

gonna be received but. Also, the very act

1:16:48

of that until he met it makes you

1:16:50

sound less innocent in a weird way. It

1:16:52

makes you so manipulative because you are you

1:16:54

trying to anticipate response. and it's not. And

1:16:56

men so absurd. But it does make you

1:16:58

send less. Authentic I guess.

1:17:00

Yeah, So he goes on to

1:17:02

say he said the last month's personally

1:17:04

apologizing to everyone he plagiarized. He also

1:17:07

apologizes to his audience for being a

1:17:09

bad representative of the queer community. I

1:17:11

will accept his apology for that. I

1:17:13

personally enjoy this part. I'm

1:17:15

assists weights gay man. No.

1:17:18

Matter how much, I try to be a

1:17:20

good spokesperson. I.

1:17:23

Can never really truly understand the

1:17:25

life experiences of other far more

1:17:27

put upon members of the queer

1:17:30

community. Okay, so this is more Now he's.

1:17:32

Gone into the kind of classic pro forma.

1:17:36

In there are how with lived experience how

1:17:38

could I know this White gay. Yeah, so

1:17:40

we get up and national Privilege disclaimer

1:17:42

from a guy who apparently ended up

1:17:44

in the hospital because he was gonna

1:17:46

kill himself after a giant swath of

1:17:48

the internet decided that he was a

1:17:51

villa because he was a player s

1:17:53

but still. He's got a

1:17:55

better than Threads creators of color and he

1:17:57

also claims that memory issues due to a

1:17:59

child the head injury at Ellen how would

1:18:02

you guess the sun went down. In

1:18:05

a the cream of a habit in a never

1:18:07

explained never complain and I just think that is

1:18:09

seen as yourself saying that the some reason why

1:18:12

you've done this to us people who already. States

1:18:14

a lot of internet reputation on calling you

1:18:16

a bad person don't want to be made

1:18:18

failed to feel bad when it turned out

1:18:20

of actually because your childhood trauma or uber

1:18:22

health issues you near but he was ala

1:18:24

whatever it might bases. Had ambien? yeah

1:18:26

that that that would make. Them

1:18:28

look bad said angrily reacts.

1:18:31

So I'm guessing it went by and badly

1:18:33

I went down that very badly. But I

1:18:35

think that's a really good claiming. Sometimes people

1:18:37

do have extenuating like cake or and the

1:18:39

woman who wrote the Who wrote he was

1:18:41

like Good Reads bombing review Bombing with it

1:18:43

as shown in a few weeks ago. The

1:18:46

author the way other she came out later

1:18:48

and said that she was dealing with substance

1:18:50

abuse issues and having like essentially a psychotic

1:18:52

break. I. Guess I have no

1:18:54

idea if it's true or not but if

1:18:56

it is true with severe alcoholism and a

1:18:58

psychotic break make you do irrational things. yes

1:19:00

it that word looks at that it's at

1:19:02

it sort of is a very good excuse

1:19:05

but it doesn't matter or like tiny and

1:19:07

has bipolar rifle or it make you as

1:19:09

a new documentary coming. Out seen about John

1:19:11

Galliano if you members had a disappeared from

1:19:13

the fashion world after he was caught. same

1:19:15

terrible and semitic things well obviously piss out

1:19:17

with brain outside some cafe in Paris and

1:19:19

it's is thing as reading an interview by

1:19:21

the kind of guys made it and it's

1:19:23

he sought to blew up his life kind

1:19:25

of. It was only situations where

1:19:27

the stress was so much that you think

1:19:30

he suited. Did it? Self destructive, lazy, and

1:19:32

I mean I think that's quite a common

1:19:34

dynamic. The people get trapped in these situations

1:19:36

that some unbearable to them and they can't

1:19:38

find us has only begun to do with

1:19:40

incredibly risky things or sit stupid silly. Think.

1:19:42

People do that and relationships all the time. You

1:19:44

want to what you want out of you're you're

1:19:47

you're unhappy marriage, months and of the leading you

1:19:49

go and have an affair with your neighbor Whatever

1:19:51

right exactly and the end You don't have the

1:19:53

kind of courage to to do things you want

1:19:55

it, that humans on that decision to be taken

1:19:57

out of your hands exactly and that she has

1:19:59

had with. Relief to people when they

1:20:01

caught. like sometimes the mistakes people make

1:20:03

a so sloppy that you can't come

1:20:05

to any conclusion other than part of

1:20:07

illnesses. Someone else to stop this for

1:20:10

them. Yeah, Well, in this case,

1:20:12

people were looking for reasons to stay

1:20:14

mad and they sound one. So it

1:20:16

turns out that a lot of the

1:20:18

videos that each bomber guy makes have

1:20:21

the words and measured response in the

1:20:23

title. So like vaccines and Autism and

1:20:25

measured response. Climate Denial and measured response.

1:20:27

Flat Earth and measured response. And so

1:20:30

because James Summer Ten called the second

1:20:32

apology video a measured response, people immediately

1:20:34

started accusing him of plagiarizing. Whose.

1:20:36

Bomber Guy Harry Brewers city to do with. Plagiarism

1:20:39

accusations go. I find they start off

1:20:41

with a few headline things I kind

1:20:43

of reasonable are interesting and then people

1:20:45

start passing it down to the tiniest.

1:20:47

it'll level in it's in our eventually

1:20:49

tiny bits of speech the everybody's all

1:20:51

the time a kind of drafted in.

1:20:54

An eminent as to I mean this

1:20:56

to me this is calling his video

1:20:58

measured response is sort of a clever

1:21:00

allusion to the guy who called him

1:21:02

out, yet is also a problem. That happens

1:21:04

when in a you try and kind of yes

1:21:06

exactly you try reference something and people think it's

1:21:08

a lane. it's not. You been to my original

1:21:10

you thought that everybody would get that reference. Get

1:21:12

it? Yeah, So anyway, three

1:21:15

days after Summer Tins measured response when

1:21:17

online brewing sweetie to say that Somerton

1:21:19

hadn't gotten in touch with them about

1:21:21

setting him the revenue from the video.

1:21:23

so that didn't help matters at all.

1:21:25

And just like in the first round

1:21:28

of James Ghazi this time around, everyone

1:21:30

again wanted a piece of the gym

1:21:32

Somerton pie. There are dozens of response

1:21:34

real from Sig Bread sued name's to

1:21:36

tiny cloud chasers Vous old friend connoisseur

1:21:38

of goblin porn and admitted horse stick

1:21:40

Santa says he's one of the biggest

1:21:43

political streamers. He. Made. A response that he,

1:21:45

oh, that is an hour and forty eight

1:21:47

minutes of him analyzing the apology video. And

1:21:49

it includes lines like the problems with James

1:21:52

Summer Center, the same problems I have with

1:21:54

Generative A I, And he's just a narcissist.

1:21:56

That's it. He's just a narcissist, but he

1:21:59

didn't accidently li. First I

1:22:01

poured Fi on the swim. Unfortunately to

1:22:03

resume he an hour and forty eight

1:22:05

minute video calling someone else a narcissist.

1:22:08

These guys just an attention seeker that. So

1:22:11

that he will assess assess

1:22:13

sale. My lived through with

1:22:16

my powerful stallion energy ssssss.

1:22:19

So to apologies down both failed. Almost

1:22:21

nobody is the setting this guy. There

1:22:23

is one comment on the Vow sub

1:22:26

reddit suggesting that people leave Somerton alone

1:22:28

and and has one of vote So

1:22:30

at the beginning of March summers and

1:22:33

resurrected an old You Tube channel of

1:22:35

his and he tried to rebrand himself

1:22:37

as James of Telus. The

1:22:40

first video he really was about a queer

1:22:42

serial killer. Or the video did include and

1:22:44

full list of resources at the end. but

1:22:47

Harry Brewers is bomber guy. Noticed something about

1:22:49

that list of resources. he tweeted about it.

1:22:51

Helen Please a look in the look at

1:22:54

described as sweet James is really funny Video:

1:22:56

angry what for ethnicities this man's I can

1:22:58

do the him. To

1:23:00

get your current tyson is the skies. Canadian.

1:23:03

He does summer from your i know

1:23:05

a H bomber guy is he's British.

1:23:07

Words: it was British, his knee aca one

1:23:09

and him the cheeky cockney than. Game's

1:23:13

release. New video and it's pure can exist

1:23:15

sources which to step up at least make

1:23:17

the abundantly clear. He does lucy paraphrase

1:23:19

is by retreat Francisco I believe.

1:23:22

I've really the eyes of my be run. This

1:23:24

these strikes me as someone who went to public

1:23:26

school. Is that what you call private school? Yes

1:23:29

he's a you tube or a really posh. Private.

1:23:31

School is ironically public school. Yeah.

1:23:35

Yeah, sorry, I can't. I mean, I bet.

1:23:37

Unfortunately, I went to private school which. Is

1:23:40

edge of my celsius. Adam said associating. See

1:23:42

Twelve Up says the Pocus. I listen to

1:23:44

covering a murder and ask them at the

1:23:47

podcast. Is covering this murder? That. Said

1:23:49

congratulations Sir James on his known

1:23:51

plagiarized. Video A Damn. Yeah.

1:23:53

So he has a screenshot here

1:23:55

from the you Tube video and

1:23:57

it is literally twelve episodes. A

1:24:01

single podcast and then an article

1:24:03

about the podcast. So once again,

1:24:05

the realize was a total failure.

1:24:07

James put up a few more

1:24:09

videos, including one called the Queer

1:24:12

Normality of Bob's Burgers and the

1:24:14

comments are universally negative on all

1:24:16

of them. Then, on March fourth,

1:24:18

shame Summers and posted this on

1:24:20

twitter. Helen, please read: Oh, and

1:24:23

this is when someone's written something

1:24:25

on. The Notes: which is never a good

1:24:27

sign. Night Mode. Yeah, Night Mode. If

1:24:30

is messages lie, that means I scheduled it

1:24:32

before ending things. I have video schedule to

1:24:34

drive the next couple of days. Nothing new.

1:24:36

I just wanted knicks portfolio of work to

1:24:39

be available. I've left directions or any money

1:24:41

from those videos be donated to the Canadian

1:24:43

Association for Suicide Prevention. They try very hard

1:24:45

to pull me back from the simply no

1:24:47

life. Many more I've lost everything. my only

1:24:49

friend, my livelihood, my name and it's all

1:24:52

my fault. The world will be a little

1:24:54

bit better off now. Good boy. Right after

1:24:56

that his Twitter account was deactivated. I

1:24:58

mean, that's. I

1:25:01

mean the really awful thing is, I've been on twitter long.

1:25:03

Enough now that I've seen a couple

1:25:05

of suicide notes are are are genuinely

1:25:07

real inherently evil A to find out

1:25:09

the person has in fact died. And

1:25:11

it's really difficult because. You

1:25:14

see these kinda traipsing suicide notes? A lot of

1:25:16

the kind of yeah either that neither. Will be

1:25:18

sorry or the kind of sinus doorbell to

1:25:20

say self pitying but the kind of you

1:25:22

know it's sort of. I'm just I'm leaving.

1:25:25

I'm leaving you With this we have. This

1:25:27

will be my final. Testament on Earth and

1:25:29

they're very hard to read because of as

1:25:31

he says I did. Devastating and. It

1:25:33

doesn't mean anything and a new just

1:25:35

you want to tell people that I

1:25:37

shouldn't right things like this because it's

1:25:39

new subs to freshly being alive. but.

1:25:41

I'm that have Been is pretty dark

1:25:44

grey and as of this recording nobody

1:25:46

can say for sure whether or not

1:25:48

James Somerton is actually dead so his

1:25:50

former co writer the Care about he

1:25:52

posted this on blue Sky quote right

1:25:54

now and to my knowledge there's nothing

1:25:56

to worry about with maybe will think

1:25:58

that this was saker som. Mistake. I

1:26:00

try to confirm this with the Toronto police,

1:26:02

I didn't get anywhere and in fact I'm

1:26:04

not even totally sure he lives in Toronto

1:26:06

so I might might have like been barking

1:26:08

up the wrong Canadian police stations, but it

1:26:10

started a whole new round of speculation and

1:26:12

finger pointing. So this has been a huge

1:26:14

story on Twitter on you tube on Tic

1:26:16

toc and one of the first you will

1:26:18

to respond to summer to and suicide note

1:26:20

was. Trigger. Warning Couples, let's

1:26:22

check that out. I think. The

1:26:25

situation speaks to same thing

1:26:27

that. I. And many

1:26:29

other people have long seen as

1:26:32

a problem with the internet in

1:26:34

general when people in a community

1:26:36

especially a marginalized community, we want

1:26:38

to hold them accountable. But the problem

1:26:40

is is that there. Are no actual

1:26:43

mechanisms for what accountability is supposed

1:26:45

to look like and everyone has

1:26:47

their own different and unique idea

1:26:50

of what accountability should be so

1:26:52

no one can actually true we

1:26:54

be happy and then a lot

1:26:57

of circumstances. What is leads to

1:26:59

is intense harassment campaigns. And

1:27:01

online scrutiny that last for years

1:27:03

and destroys careers without any true

1:27:05

way for people to redeem themselves

1:27:08

after the mistakes of they've made.

1:27:10

And when your livelihood is tied

1:27:12

to how much people like you

1:27:14

online, it can feel. Devastating.

1:27:17

Absolutely excruciating. We

1:27:19

painful and alienating.

1:27:22

To. Watch as you're getting ruthlessly

1:27:24

dragged on line by thousands.

1:27:26

And thousands of people if you have

1:27:29

existing. Mental health conditions. While you're

1:27:31

also dealing with this, it can

1:27:33

be a recipe for absolute disaster

1:27:35

as it has been many, many,

1:27:38

many times in the past. Okay,

1:27:40

so that was more empathetic from.

1:27:42

Castles. Than I expected. although I do like into

1:27:44

him Internet now says I'm The Way She had to

1:27:46

preface it by saying I've actually been saying. This for

1:27:49

very long time. Yeah, we just can't make the

1:27:51

observation you have to point out that you will

1:27:53

a loan Cassandra He said. He was for seen

1:27:55

this way and she also later in the and

1:27:57

the video says like not that I'm defending him.

1:28:00

You know you also have the make sure

1:28:02

that you're not defending the guy who might

1:28:04

be dead because he played her as a

1:28:06

high crime isn't that this is. However, this

1:28:08

is one of the rare cases will I

1:28:10

will say couples right and she did. She

1:28:12

goes on later to say yeah I can

1:28:14

feel be feel good to be part of

1:28:16

a mob when the not mom turns on

1:28:18

you know and will descend you and she

1:28:20

urges people to have more compassion. It was

1:28:22

very on couples leg or unfortunately for Couples

1:28:24

after putting this out people began attacking her

1:28:27

for monetizing the situation. So she defended herself

1:28:29

by saying she was. Hitting to trans

1:28:31

why blinds and then center. To subvert

1:28:33

the real winner winner here. Today

1:28:36

but really night was made by. Yeah.

1:28:40

So and from Wigan Cel there

1:28:42

are a few basic camps. When.

1:28:44

It comes to assigning blame here, as in

1:28:47

fact, summer sun is that the first campus

1:28:49

people who are blaming Harry Brewers H bomber.

1:28:51

He. Hasn't publicly said anything about this but

1:28:54

you can see these people in his

1:28:56

mentions on Twitter. Some people see him

1:28:58

as a huge hypocrite because he himself

1:29:00

is very woke he race all this

1:29:02

money for mermaids to talks about elevating marginalize

1:29:04

voices. and to his did his critics

1:29:06

that looks like hear his fans effectively

1:29:08

bully James Summer send a suicide Or

1:29:10

maybe the biggest name in this camp

1:29:12

is a very confusing figure Peter Coffin

1:29:14

of you run into him before he

1:29:16

vehicles. he's that you would think so

1:29:18

he would think so he tweeted if he

1:29:20

is that each bomb. Absolutely loved a

1:29:22

trojan killing him. This is ratio to

1:29:24

hell and back, but Peter Coffin. Is

1:29:27

strange for your. When I first heard

1:29:29

about him he was a classic male

1:29:31

feminist type. Very condescending, very woke went

1:29:34

by any all or they them pronouns.

1:29:36

Kanaan is non binary because he said

1:29:38

he was uncomfortable with his place in

1:29:40

their gender herky like use a tiny

1:29:43

guy. I can imagine lecturing a lesbian

1:29:45

about general preferences like that. Gonna die.

1:29:48

I. Haven't paid much attention to him

1:29:50

in recent years, but apparently he sucks

1:29:52

somewhat of a pivot because he's now

1:29:54

an example of the rare and I

1:29:57

woke they them. He's also Marxist Leninists

1:29:59

to appear. The now very critical of

1:30:01

identity politics and he's one of a

1:30:03

very small number of people who been

1:30:06

defending Somerton since that the original plagiarism

1:30:08

video. So back in December when this

1:30:10

first started, he posted an essay about

1:30:13

plagiarism that argues and short that rather

1:30:15

than looking at plagiarism as an individual

1:30:17

failing, we should look at it as

1:30:19

the byproduct of economic pressures. Something something

1:30:22

Late Capitalism hallmarks Workers of the World

1:30:24

United Center of Know. True, a

1:30:26

good point, well made. Mr.

1:30:31

I saw that suffers Camp H. Bomber guy did

1:30:33

it. The second kill are people

1:30:35

who are less sympathetic to somerton. Who

1:30:38

again might be dead. They. Think

1:30:40

that each bomber guys the real victim here.

1:30:42

So Helen, here's an example of that. Please

1:30:44

read his tweets from an account called Baucus

1:30:46

Limits. To be clear, if James I'm in

1:30:49

actually kills himself, I would just. Consider it

1:30:51

more be super manipulated behavior by

1:30:53

fundamental unrepentant Nasas. And all the my

1:30:55

I'm seeing Calgary towards H bomber guy who did nothing wrong

1:30:57

and is the real. Victims with such an action. I

1:31:00

really hope he doesn't disappoint because I'm just be

1:31:02

more shitty to start to abs and Opiates help

1:31:04

and in learns how to help people in a

1:31:06

real way. But suicide attempts successful not

1:31:08

aren't that suggested? Attempt to refrain himself as

1:31:10

a victim and his victims as is perfectly

1:31:12

cessnas right Killing yourself is a way of

1:31:15

river aiming yourself as a victim to know

1:31:17

it reminds you once. There was some person

1:31:19

who had a massive hatred of may and

1:31:21

meal was a bit with since one said.

1:31:24

Something that you should slap her and

1:31:26

she felt she probably just get me

1:31:28

done for social something. ssssss. At

1:31:32

this a white woman assess assess what

1:31:34

I care and complaining to the police

1:31:36

when someone assault cel. Bs.

1:31:40

And so that for editors, blame everyone

1:31:42

pointing fingers at each other and no

1:31:44

one is sure if this guy is

1:31:46

dead or not on a H Bomber

1:31:48

guy sub reddit cat low so that

1:31:50

says producer she said quote. I've

1:31:53

heard that James is currently alive and physically safe.

1:31:55

I do not know what his current mental state

1:31:57

is or what his next steps are, so my

1:31:59

hope is that. They're not dead and maybe he

1:32:01

will change his name on an M of the Ford.

1:32:03

I get a job at Disney Meet a Man. And

1:32:06

live in underserved life until someone recognizes him

1:32:08

and we get it through graham series out

1:32:10

of it. That is a while story and

1:32:12

I have to say the one question that

1:32:14

it leaves me with is what was their

1:32:16

real problem with him. The one question you

1:32:18

have isn't is he dead So I mean

1:32:20

like that. Let's not. let's say about like

1:32:22

one additional supplementary question I have sufficient you

1:32:24

know what I mean when you read through

1:32:26

the this and maybe I'm just single of

1:32:28

his cynical having been on the internet for

1:32:30

too long or in a basically get canceled

1:32:33

a kind of weird in some way or

1:32:35

people to stay. On like some I didn't if you've

1:32:37

him. Ever watch the Traitors for people to get

1:32:39

voted out earlier? Often people don't make eye contact

1:32:41

to recite a bit which from the people make

1:32:43

up all kinds of spurious reasons about why they

1:32:45

think they're a traitor and they can't trust them

1:32:47

and lovable bus. But it's actually just a kind

1:32:49

of it fundamentally and near the series. Can be

1:32:52

that, or they can be professional jealousy. or

1:32:54

they can be to lose the most marginalized

1:32:56

and emotionless pile. Or they can be Smurfit

1:32:58

syndrome. Right? Like with any rooms to be

1:33:00

one gay Disney you tube or and by

1:33:03

God it and gonna be may. Arms

1:33:05

and it is also is just I mean

1:33:07

couples. Careful set it. It's son to be

1:33:09

part of a mob. And. I think

1:33:12

there's probably a big element of that here.

1:33:14

I mean, you have How often is it

1:33:16

that the Internet can come together and say

1:33:18

this person altogether this person is bad and

1:33:21

have that not devolve into an argument about

1:33:23

how he's good Actually, because he had a

1:33:25

Peter Coffin was easily the only one defending

1:33:27

this guy. It was

1:33:30

like a uniting moments or something. So beautiful

1:33:32

about it, except that it ends with someone

1:33:34

possibly killing himself. Yeah, I think I can.

1:33:36

Totally. I can totally see that. I don't

1:33:38

know. It's all it is now. I wonder if I'm sure I

1:33:40

that definitely have that. Tendency by think now and

1:33:42

she gave I over index and the

1:33:45

other direction right which is I'm weirdly

1:33:47

sympathetic to like villains, child sex abuse

1:33:49

him. it's so. I mean genuinely really bad

1:33:51

people? because you think. God how awful would be

1:33:53

to have done them were absolute worst thing that

1:33:55

will never know and have any be ostracized by

1:33:57

everybody and actually. Some. Things are bad.