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hello it's me jumping in

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second an update

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on our upcoming tour yes we're going on tour

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and it's insane we have sold out

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our october twenty ninth show at the arlington

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cinema draft house in arlington virginia

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so he added a second later so doors

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nine thirty pm showtime ten pm this

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will be the end of the tour will be tired

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and strung out and drunk and disinherited

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it's likely to be a very entertaining train wreck

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moving backwards from there are october twenty

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sets show at the village underground village new

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york city is also sold out thank you so

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much were not and real the add the add

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and y c so unfortunately not this time around

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but apparently to shop at the venue they hold some

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tickets in reserve or whoever is in line firsts

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unfortunately we can't tell you how many but if

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you wanted a a crack at that go for it finally

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and most importantly there are a number

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of tickets left for october twenty fourth

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show in my hometown at last boston

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we would love to get as close as

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possible to selling that when out because

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i mean we sold out the entire torah which would

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help us out a great deal as we attempt

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to expand more to live events including

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a potential west coast or next year so

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if you haven't bought tickets yet and would like to come see

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us live in boston please do so as soon

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as possible you'll see links to both

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shows where their remaining tickets see arlington

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late one of the boss and one in the show notes thank

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the just

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we have had some major technical issues

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can swedish complain about of people for

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little while

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that would you

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it's very agitated i don't like

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hearing what your dad try to use identity

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play

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i do want to complain about this so the system that

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we used to talk to each other

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is causing cancer and they had

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a very like seddiqui

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pleasing very simple platform

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and we started doing this podcast two

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years ago and because everybody

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has to fucking improve everything they

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like made it fancier like video

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and colors and background and

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it is impossible to

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use to go back to the old

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way buggers come on

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go back to the old ways when

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men were men women

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, get married to one of those

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letters and about

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it's been so they just had like a perfectly

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five and three far we haven't had issues for

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while we're now giving squad cast

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a whirl somebody remind me at

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thirty days to cancel the free trial ago

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they put up a notice on your on your calendar

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for that jersey there's no fucking way

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i remember

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i started to tell alexa

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to set a reminder that i remembered my letters

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not set up a new york's i took her somewhere for viewed as

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eat any alexa had a few days out of

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the trigger with you when you travel

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men sometimes i take hold a little

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was his if you're like a it is just as a very

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nice out

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how many like says you have the

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she know that you have more than one of her

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they can hear one and they talking i target

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i have one big one and two little ones

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the as a family this is something i will never

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purchase i'm not to like generally

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too paranoid about technology

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listening to me and i think often times

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like be know you'll have a conversation

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about something and then it'll show up on your

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phone like i think there's usually pretty

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good reasons for that that besides

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the fact that your phone is listening to but alexis

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too far for me i am not letting them bit into

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my house

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i mean

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yeah it's probably a horrible idea but at this point

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the cats are the bag in terms of information i

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am my favorite example of

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people prefer the old ways is the one

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it's genuine academic an extended

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single family where can

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a buck and he wanted to send it to me he

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had you snail mail to me because he insists

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word perfect five i think it

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was was the last decent

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word processing ideas uses

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dos he does not use windows because

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windows guess it's actually compatible with his version of were perfect

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so we had to snail mail be

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snail book chapter w for to really but that

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you imagine not having access like novel email to some

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people documents

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the email

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the uses email but his because

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he uses were perfect on a dos machine

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i guess you can't said that via email

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that does sound very academic

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anyway there's a lot going on

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the world the most important thing is

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ah our technical difficulties second

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most important thing is tussles which we will have

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our next podcast about the third most important

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thing is what we're here to discuss

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yeah just he as you know

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i have recently made some

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major life changes i have pivoted

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from being a podcast

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merely acted like back in the closet

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because it merely being a podcast

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those to being a podcast flash

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they are like hey there might include

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how that process

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you know good knackered i

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took the van out for my inaugural camping

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trip i decided to try to

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find a camp spot i can't say i

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at six pm on the sunday

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of labor day weekend you will

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be absolutely shocked to find out that

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there were no cavs spots campsite

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available at six pm on sunday

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my brain how how could you have no of labor

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day's the day if my groceries threat everyone

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is hard at work it's labor as for i was out vacation

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yeah that's what i thought but yes i saw

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at my first my first excursion

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, in the van lasted for

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about an hour or

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also we were planning my wife was gonna like

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make dinner in the van this is illegal up

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a probe trip a trial for were taking a big

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road trip in this is the trial for the road trip

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and and my wife was gonna

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make like make with the cold like as the spanish

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ahmed they like tortilla will come

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our ts as she forgot the eggs

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so we ended up just like ceiling and going

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and getting burgers and going home and wanting to leafs

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that said is

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it going to take naps i have been enjoying

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taking naps in the van and on something

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else good has come out of this new

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career of mine

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and that is that i've been getting tips

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about hashtag then life influencers

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and they were gonna talk about one of them but

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first you need to know a little bit

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about hashtag families and hostile

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yeah my favorite that he was a she said that

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some cavada lee dewyze my really

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easier

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how are you know that has a bachelors

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se

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well

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not hero i will i have some weird

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you tube habits

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i've seen a few of people like vancamp,

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i into this because i am a ass

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off till the soil boy who is scared of everything

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there's something like nature videos like

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of like people who are

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called cold and sometimes that takes place in

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like event but that would have a clue these videos

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they just it's it's very up

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boring limited ruminative and partying

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and as as murray you'll just see the

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light shiver i'd open a can

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of tomatoes and then put into cooking

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pot and stir it for five minutes and then

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they start the other way for five min allow

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into the add salt for thirty seconds

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this is explains so much about you okay

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so i'm starting to the best primer on

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hashtag van life comes from a twenty

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seventeen new yorker article by rachel

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monroe a who also wrote

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one of the early pieces on d transition

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a fun fact okay so

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rent monroe

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she spent some time on the road

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with a few hashtag them live influencers

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and here so how she described it

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there's a particular static that's from try

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to get it she wrote the scroll through the

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images tags hashtag them like on instagram

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and you'll see plenty of photos i don't have much to

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do with the vehicles starry skies

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campfires women and leggings doing yoga by the

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ocean like the best marketing terms

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than life is worth highly specific an

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expansive it's a one world lifestyle

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signifier that has come to evoke a number

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of contemporary trends are renewed

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interest in the american road trip a culture

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of hippie inflicted outdoorsy this and

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a life free of the tyranny of the nine

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to five job i think that captures

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the phenomenon really well the

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and them i've has gotten even

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more popular since she wrote this piece and

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and twenty

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seventeen and party think because of cupboard

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their minds manages to make living in a car

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which in other contexts would be called

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homelessness seem carefree

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and book bohemian as aspiration

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old and the photos how this sort

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of there's a van life as that

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again it's hard to describe will pull some

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some links in the image in those shows that people

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can sort of tell what i'm talking about but it's sort of glossy

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rates in some of the bands that people

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live in at like costs as much as a house

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to be clear my van did not

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this is my to the house but some of the murdered

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like truly gorgeous

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the drama to me how is it possible believe it

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wasn't that expensive except for the taxes

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that really the taxes puppy over omnibus

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so but some of these bans are truly gorgeous

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and they have showers and they have tile back

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splashes and they have sued or flooring

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and these photos that these

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hashtag them live influencers post make

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them live loved truly fucking amazing

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there's against us an aesthetic you're like in

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about it on instagram very

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common the back doors to the van are

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open and so you're looking out

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on like a gorgeous california beach

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as the sun is setting and i'm

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starting to suspect the further i get

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into hashtag van life that

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all of these gorgeous parking spaces

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are just like filled with other

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van lifers and you can't sleep there you can't

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park there overnight anyway so people go and

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take these photos and then like actually

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sleep in a walmart parking lot

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i really else fails his mother

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died is a nice hotels yeah to minivans

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out about

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yeah i mean there are a lot of fucking as i have realised

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now that if you see a cargo van

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like any sort of transit van

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or that has a california license plate

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someone is probably living in it and

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unless it has like a

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can plumbing on the site actually in that case

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to get my be living in it but the summers make

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this look like truly great so

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one of them were well known hashtag

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van life influencers is brianna media

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she built a following around pictures of

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her dogs in the van and the deserts

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of southern utah she started this around twenty

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thirteen and the pictures are genuinely

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gorgeous and have gotten like prettier and prettier

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over time as her cameras has improved

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i i think and basically she posts is

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like constant wave of these beautiful

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outdoor excursions with her

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husband and our dogs often times can you

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nearing somewhere in like the utah desert

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this started out as weekend trips when

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they could get away but she slowly

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turn this into a career and and went

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into full time hushed i've been life so

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and twenty sixteen she and her then

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husband keith media they move

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into their own van there was this bright

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orange ninety ninety panel van

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that definitely has been used to kidnap children

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by a prior owner and

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not as are white there

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the they are generally but yeah

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generally yeah but this land like you'll

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see pictures of it

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you can tell i when i was growing up

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my parents said if a stranger in a white

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van tries to get you to go and

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don't if there's any other color and

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sign

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i wonder if kids are still pull that today

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like give his

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we live in an age

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where that's almost quaint

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yeah to try to defile a child

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at a were given all the other easier ways

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you get like it's decides you to all those satellite

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pat the guys have a lotta had be like

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yeah no i can't really take

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don't either