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best deal in media. Should we

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move on to something less controversial? Yes, let's

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do it. All right. So you've heard you have

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not read the WPath files, correct? I have not

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read them. No. I'm guessing you saw people tweet

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about them. What did you discern from the tweets?

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That there was a massive scandal

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unfolding based on this communications that

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were leaked from within

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WPath. I did see a

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response put out. It stopped me if we're

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going to get to this by Marcy Bowers.

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We are going to get to it. Okay.

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Strange line. Strange line. You know what

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I'm talking about. Yes. We've

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never discussed trans issues on the show

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before. So WPath, World Professional Association for

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Transgender Healthcare, they're this complicated

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tangled organization that writes- They're

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Facebook group. Very influential Facebook group. They

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write the standards of care for transgender

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healthcare or what is called the standards

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of care or SOC. So

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yeah, the idea of

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the WPath files is there's this major

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scandal. They were published by a group

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called Environmental Progress founded by Michael

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Schellenberger. I originally knew him as

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basically a heterodox environmental activist, very

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pro nuclear and stuff. He co-founded

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the Breakthrough incident. He's also a

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big critic of the Bay Area

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just as a place. He wrote Sanford Siko.

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He ran for governor, right? He ran for

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governor. He also- He did not

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win. It's fine. Wait, he didn't? No. Why

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have I been calling him governor? I'm so embarrassed.

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It's embarrassing. He also has this group of people.

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called Environmental Progress and he has a very

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successful sub-stack based publication called Public which has

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more than 123,000 followers and readers, the bastard

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subscribers, whatever

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calling them. It was Environmental Progress

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that published the WPATH files which I

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found a little weird. They included this

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explanation that... What is Environmental Progress? I

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don't know. Here's

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how they explained why an environmental group

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did this. The short answer is that

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we are pro-human environmentalists and our mission

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is to incubate ideas, leaders, and movements

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for nature, peace, and freedom for all.

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We thus work on a wide range of issues

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from climate change to homelessness to freedom of speech,

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all of which constitute important aspects of

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our quote-unquote environment. Oh, come

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on. That is like stretching

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the definition of environment a

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little too far. I guess anything

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is the environment. Yeah, the HDTV shows

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I watch about remodeling kitchens are

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actually environmental TV shows. Yeah. Okay,

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so who was the author of this? He

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didn't write it. He wrote the intro. So

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who was the actual author of the WPATH

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files? A journalist named Mia Hughes.

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So Hughes used to go by Mia

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Ashton. She has a pretty established online

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footprint as both a journalist and a

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gender-critical activist. They

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wrote for Human Events which is a

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pretty conservative website. Wait, is she a they?

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You said they wrote. She wrote for Human...

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She's definitely not a they. She

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wrote for Human Events a conservative

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website. Pretty conservative where

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she's listed as the lead on Cozbar,

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Cozbar's child safeguarding campaign.

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And that is... I

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can't... So it's lowercase a, capital

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W. I thought it was only

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lefties who did the queer capitalization

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thing. So it's a weirdly named

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group that is short for the

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Canadian women's sex base, right? Oh,

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I get it. Canada is lowercase.

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Women is uppercase. The

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sex base writes is lowercase. Okay.

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Well be very nice. So me I issues

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may as soon as someone who is pretty

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pre established views on the subjects I'm just

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describing. I'm not criticizing but but she's been

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pretty open about be an activist in his

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run. A lot of stuff outlets like are

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the posts millennial on the subject. Of

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a so what's actually in the debate? hassles. Okay,

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so. I should say this

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is a packet of documents that a source

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has been shopping around for. While I was

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provided with printed out copies of basically all

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the stuff that appears in the Duffy has

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files About a year ago. Did. Some

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and mail them to your house anonymously. They. Were

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not mail to me I'd I'd but I

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obtain them and so we're gonna leave that

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that I have seen. them. Terrorists. You. Obtain

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and because someone gave them see If it isn't

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that sad hill who is this anonymous source to

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going to give it up as. I didn't say

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the name and social security number or this

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is behind the pay wall. Know this is

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it. was an activist who is a very

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art and skeptic. Have used gender medicine. Okay,

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so the source doesn't necessarily tell us

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anything about the packet, and in activists

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can. On rare occasions provide

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useful information. And.

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You did nothing with us. Why? I

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did not the recovers and some. Gonna tell me

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about the files. Could have been hosted

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on Blessing Reported.whatever. A

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blotter Party Environmental Progress

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Som vi These. Files

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were mostly light. Their.

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Posts from the W Task message

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boards. The point is anyone to

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join these forums to the toss.

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I told her twenty five dollars

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or less to.w Fasts and ah.

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So. I was given and

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just these posts. By.

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Mostly random people hadn't heard of, some of

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which for like pretty wacky but it it

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is wasn't clear to me that this really

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told us anything about W Path or anything

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we didn't know arm and it struck me

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frankly as like more trouble than or be

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worse to actually like verify and report and

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choose what redact and all that. Okay, so

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you're lazy. That's the answer. Isn't

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said Debbie Pass World Professional

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Association for Transgender Health Care.

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I cancelled. Maybe that. He.

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Is a as professional. Should

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be excluded because anybody can join.

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I mean it's a prot lot.

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Through a lot of professional divisions,

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anyone can join Bullets. This is.

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This A pretty wide net, so

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quote for professional membership is available

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to professionals working in disciplines such

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as Madison: Psychology, Loss Social Work,

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Counseling, Psychotherapy, Nursing, Family Study, Sociology,

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Anthropology, Speech and Voice Therapy, and

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Sexologist. So Lights Past the World

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is. Okay, so the files

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are from random numbers person. Is ones

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that were sense yeah it's there's a bigger

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names will deaths you but it's mostly random

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stuff from random people. Forget what kind

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of stuff isn't there so. I. Have.

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Not heard of hundred here, but like right

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off the bat, there's a problem. This is

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a packet of documents leaked from an online

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discussion forum by someone who is quite hostile

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to the organization that hosted that forums. You're

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getting a very cherry picked subset of documents

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from these forms of presumably are tens of

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thousands of posts. and I'm not saying the

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source doesn't have every right to their own

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political views. it and to weekend documents said

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they think are damage. But

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you just have to be really careful in how you report on

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something like this. Said eating selim burger

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and this me as use ne aston do

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think they were careful. I just I

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don't really think they were careful now. Ah,

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like Okay, so they're just they're not really

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transparent about the selected by a problem. They

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don't provide any information about who lives in

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the files other than that it was someone

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who might show and burgers work on the

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Twitter files. They also don't provide any information

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about their attempts to like verify the contents

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of these posts. And they do this really

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annoying thing where they'll say something like nowhere

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in the files does anyone talk about x

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or y as though this is damning. But

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but you can understand why. That not necessarily

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democrats. Were. Yeah, I mean this. The files themselves

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are just a snapshot of what's being discussed on

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his farm. So even if they're on the files

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x or y could have been discussed elsewhere to

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different time as is not included. right? Yeah,

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it's like it's it's I'm not saying

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there's like you're not allowed to Reporters

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really clear. They probably didn't. Sir

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why is w bad? Well, maybe

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maybe not. I did I It's

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just like at you don't know

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it's a it's a small me,

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not tidy, but it's a pretty

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small packet of documents, printed outs,

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screenshots, Of. Internal this or posers

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without much broader context. Okay, so

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let's get into specifics. Your

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arms so. There's.

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A range of both random people,

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social workers, nurse practitioners. bob. Of

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last, I've got the unredacted files

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armored. Basically what they did add:

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Environmental Progress is a. Redacted.

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Most of the names I'm weirdly the

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redacted some big names like Floors Ashley

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who's an activist and ah scholar in

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Canada and To and also intended use

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a physician one of the biggest names

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as feel but they also provides just

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like more than enough clues to know

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that's who they're talking about. There's deathly

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some weird stuff in there. For example,

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there are clinicians openly talk about doing

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gender nullification surgeries. I actually just got

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my they do some cards see you

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know what that is, right? Ideal.

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That's the it's the Barbie surgery

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or that the Kindle. Surgery. So I

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guess it depends what has Barbie have to

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other exactly. You don't have

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any. You don't have an alley, You

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have nothing. it is null and void

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of. You have a P. Whole or

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in. This. This is a physicist

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as.of you're flying. Help? Well I

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mean hopefully hopefully they don't suffer see

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the P thing the P to But

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let me get yeah, it's not like

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a a unique situation because an edict

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still have their taxes on their balls

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is a very strange idea of the

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fact that any. Clinician.

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Would perform this. Strikes

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me as much closer to like cutting

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off someone's. Slim. Anyone

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got. There are just I'll read

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a little bit from their twitter

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files: One doctor Thomas Sadder White,

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a renowned California surgeon ask for

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the group's input for quote unquote

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non standard procedures such as talk quote

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top Surgery without Nipples nullification, all

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the Marilyn Manson. So.

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i said last top surgery big

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