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this is the second part of a two-part episode in

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part 1 jason and

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i discussed the of angels and begin

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a of their hierarchy in

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this part we continue with the hierarchy

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and discuss the evolution of angels

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over the years

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that are to the top sphere

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are the lowest of the highest

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choirs we've got thrones

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or as he said earlier oh for name

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which those better

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with the rest of the names of of the

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yard the guys in the sphere i

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, these these are there these are the fun ones

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they're the wheel looking beings

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described in as each yell and or variously

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said be the wheels of god's chariot

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and the dispensers of his judgements

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yes so these are in

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my opinion as he creepiest of

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all the angels assisted okay because

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all the others are sort of like some kind

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of like

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creature

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these are not it's literally just

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, as being like wheels

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within wheels wheels

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liquid we don't even know how many concentric rings

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of these things is just is like some

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like at least two may be a thousand

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we don't know and they

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just fly around and they don't turn

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like they'll be flying forward and if they want to go

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to the right they just start going to the right they don't

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turn and go right now they have

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their omni directional beings okay

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so the is absolute creepy ah

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we seem described in as he killed one

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and as the keel ten we

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also tits a mention of film

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enough first inox seventy

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one sixty one

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second he not twenty and twenty one

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which called don't the many

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i'd angel or the many i'd

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ones and collections

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one sixteen ah

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were appalled talks about don't

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and is kind of just list

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don't among other things

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yeah he says are for a

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noble things were created things in heaven and

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on earth visible and invisible was

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a thrones or powers or rulers are authorities

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all things have been created through him and

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for helm so young with this

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thrones that that's another word for

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that the often him so ,

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it's these these rings these

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concentric rings rings

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they fly around and they're

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covered in ice we don't know how

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many but it's as many and

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they're usually seen in company with

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the living creatures that

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are also mentioned in as he he'll

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those , the the cherub him weight which

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are the next one slop these are these

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things the the

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throne would start the often him or the things

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that giorgio sucralose talks about

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the of these are the the crazy u

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f o ceo were as he q has his

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vision and is your foes are flying around

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and they've got like a lightning shooting out

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and everything else is

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this this is talking about now

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there's this ah

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this woman who's don't some amazing work

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on this particular topic

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her name is margaret barker that

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, woman is brilliant and

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and says that this is a

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is this your one it's a vision of

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the serious throne the

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first temple in jerusalem being

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looted by the babylonians

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and that the throne we actually have a description

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of it in a few places uses golden

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throne and had had of wheels

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on it and little sad wings

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and the the wheels

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were beset with jewels on the snake

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precious stones and

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this thing is based be been carded out

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and as being like carry it up

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and

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eat your one is supposed to be like this

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strange apocalyptic vision which

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apocalyptic literature nothing

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is spoken about clearly

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it's all like strange

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and you know medicine while i'm analogies

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from yeah you tube you have to kind of already

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know what they're talking about to understand what you're talking

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about and eight is supposed to be

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a vision of i'm your that

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the temple being looted and market marcus's

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this is just the chariots thrown that's

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being taken out it was his intricate

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seeing of like concentric

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rings mitt to represent wheels on a chariot

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i was beset with tools and goals

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and this is being carted out like carried

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over your the heads of soldiers as

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they have this thing out of the temple to to

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carted off to babylon so they could melt down

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in your debt that sort of matches

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because we're talking about angels that

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are supposed to be present in the throne room

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of god and of course your the

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the kings are supposed to be a representative of god

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and ducks are in the temple the

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central room is supposed to mimic

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the throne room of heaven so all

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that matches up i think that's what we're looking

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at here the often him are

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basically the wheels of a chariot

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throne that new basically

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supports the throne that ya away with

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sit on so i think that's what

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we're what we're seeing here interesting

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you mentioned next up we've got the

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chair a beam and , is the

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this is not be confused with the infant

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child who t t

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is sad i figure in a work of art

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depicted as a chubby male child

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usually naked and sometimes wing sometimes originally

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limited to profane passions in symbolism

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deep hutto as singular came

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to represent the sacred cherub and

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in baroque art in punto came

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to represent the omnipresence of god

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so use you know that's coming from probably

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the vatican i'm in rome it's a

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sin italian term booty but

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when you think of terrible these days you think

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of these poo t v little fat

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babies they're actually described

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a , different ah ah

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have four phases one

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of a man one of an ox when

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of a lion and one of an eagle and

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they have fork and joined wings covered

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with eyes you lions

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body and the feet of oxygen

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they are a wild

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the time mira in this

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in in a hindu mythology

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so they guard the way to the tree of life

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and also to the throne of god and

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st thomas aquinas actually

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imagine satan as a fallen

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cherub would you know but these guys

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jason yes so that those are all like

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really cool things are that did this

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is definitely one of the the

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scarier the things mentioned in

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the bible idea , that description

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so they they have basically like ahead

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with for faces on it

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and see the one that faces the front

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is the face of a man the

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head that points to the right or

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that the face so basically in place

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of place right ear you have the face

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of face lion pointing out over you're

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right shoulder to looking to the side pointing

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out to the left is the face of an

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ox and looking straight back behind

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use the face of an eagles okay

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so you can't sneak up on the skies okay

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this is the while this he man figures

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that i ever owned oh yeah yeah

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it's he's got a big dial on his back when you

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tarnish his head spins around

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the only one of the different personality indifferent special

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attacks or something ah

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as ah yoyo that this that is is

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creepy you know and in your

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he has hooves like an ox

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you know and then of course he has all these wings and

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this may sound extremely strange but

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when when you consider his job

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which is essentially to serve as

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the most superpowered security dot hard

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your the he guards like palace gate

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since the throne room and the temple

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and everything else is it guard see all

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the other the throne room of heaven

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this sounds like the griffin of the hittites

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or the sphinx of egypt

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or of the lamb osu

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from babylon yeah it

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was all the strange a mirror creatures

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they were made of a bunch a different animal parts

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are often including parts

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from oxen lions

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humans and eagles are

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, those force creatures specifically

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were often use in these strange creatures

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and all of these creatures were were

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there to serve as divine

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guards for important places

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and the the chair bummed do the exact

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same thing they guard the throne

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room of room and

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ah our first mention of is in genesis

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three one of them is stationed

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to guard the entrance to the garden to eden

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these are defined security guards

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dot these greet like watch dogs

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these sued monsters

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that prevent people from going

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any place that they don't belong sort

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of like service you know it's

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service it's great monstrous guard

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that a lot of people in the eastern

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mediterranean had their own versions

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like the the law massu in babylon they're

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, said to have burning coals

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inside zone and if

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he schools in one scene scene

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neither as he killed one or one

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chem of which but in this one scene there

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for of them and they're flying around flying

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like this formation and

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bouncing between know they have these between

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know coals that are like

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shooting fire back and forth between i'm in straight

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lines are with lightning bolts

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and so we have like

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some pretty scary imagery here it's like this

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crazy monster

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the for faces for wings

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and it's shooting like fireball

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the enlightenment back , forth

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between it and three

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others of it's kind making

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almost like a square you

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know as a bounce all the stuff between

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i'm said it these things are pretty

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scary and the

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idea that satan was one

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of these things matches up

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cause the chair bomb

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in genesis three it and it

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does like as weird thing have to connect some dots

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here so the chair bomb

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in genesis three he's mentioned

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with a flaming sword and he's put their to

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guard to prevent anyone from

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crossing the boundary between the mortal

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realm and the garden

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of eden we see this again

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that in i believe the book of

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numbers were

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, angel is stationed on a

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road road prevent bail

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prevent from crossing

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this imaginary line to go and give council

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to these kings this angel the station there

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with a flaming sword and

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the role of this angel it's

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called a satan which

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in a should i just saw a a sort

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of ah but one of the duties of satan

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was a guard they could also do

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things like work against somebody

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are ya things like that they they weren't bad

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guys the they worked for ya waves

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and bad guy but i'm not bad

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guys exactly

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oh was illegal means adversary

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right it's own at it just means a person

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is working against you it doesn't mean hose and

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you know you're doing something that's

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how we doesn't like you know or yellow

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he wants to test you like in the are the book

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of job or an angel

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is given the role of an adversary

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to come and work against you to see what you

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do and in this case this

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the story of salem it's to see your

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is he gonna turn back or see gonna continue

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down this path toward disarm

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for this other nation toward advice nation kings

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of and so an angel described

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the same way as the one in genesis three

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or is stationed there and it's

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given the role of an adversary of satan

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and so we have we have bum with

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a flaming sword standing guard and

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then we have another chair bum with a flaming

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sword standing guard and it's called

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a satan it it it's it's our

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first actual midst of a seat and

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in the hebrew bible so it makes

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sense that someone else would make would connect

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these dots that the devils

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which wasn't part of judaism would

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become your would have been have

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chair a bomb so

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bad i think them where that came from that's

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pretty interesting satan basically

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the title it's not really a name

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right cause it would be like colin

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the most evil entity on earth

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lawyer got god and you've got lawyer

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well that's fitting though it's fitting that

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, is the most he went to the on earth earth

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you a used car salesman now

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get out without yeah a satan

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was and when they want to do whole episode

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on yeah no we are satan in

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the old testament in the was a it

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was a job title of an angels ah

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or an agent of yeah way who

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was since

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who

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the work against someone or

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to stand guard that's

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it they were not evil the worked for

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it like the answer to your way yeah we was your

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boss and they just did what yeah we want

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to dump to do and so that

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that's all that's they are ah

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it's not until much later that this

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that this job title it gets merged

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with a bunch of other things to become something

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else entirely and that's

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why if you try to read the book of job from

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a christian viewpoint it doesn't make

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sense you know what what why

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is our way and seat and work together against

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this poor guy you're right because

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it's a completely different things he's not

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evil angel he's trying

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to test job to make sure that

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sees the right man that the apiece

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it is not an evil angel at all it and

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it's not a name it's just a job title

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any angel could get that name he

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has to be given the job isn't that interesting hm

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i'm kinda surprised that there's there's

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, one of these choirs just named satan's

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satan's ah yeah that's a that's

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super interesting and so don't ever if

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you see a a a little fat baby flying

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baby did this

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is not a cherub it i

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mean today it's kind of evolved to be vet

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but it's not what it is so

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if he if you see some mess

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of a hybridization

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like hybridization of a of dr

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moreau gone completely

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bonkers as a chair of yeah

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yeah so this crazy gyroscope

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just flying around flying okay

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covered in eyeballs yeah that that's that's

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you're on you're oath in him you

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know so that so that a dairy those what angels

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are supposed to look like and then we've

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got surf i'm a surfer means

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the burning once and

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every time we see sarah from mentioned in the old

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testament the almost always

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connected with snakes like

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, every time is connected with snakes

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and i'm in law numbers

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twenty one of the for the first signs

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that we see him the , from

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are clearly depicted their snakes thing angel

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snakes they fly around and they

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poison people ah the

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there since turret curse the israelites

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because of something that something believe the leave

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i'd steer and so they're

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going round they're biting people and

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kind it so we've got angel center like biting

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people and that they are very strange

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looking we don't know what your body's exactly

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look alike but it may have just been a winged

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snake but , not sure sure

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the reason is because they have six

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wings and four of those wings are

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devoted to covering their bodies

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so we can't see on the other

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two wings are used for flying it

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is like the highest choir of angels ah

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that they see you every description we have

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that talks about the hierarchy places

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don't like in the throne room of god

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and they're they're often

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associated with fire a lot of angels

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are like their things about fire coals

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lightning you know explosions

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things like that angels for scary

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and nice thing third their described

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other caretakers of god's thrown

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the of six wings to for flying

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to for covering their face to for covering

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their feet at of their their whole bodies

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pretty much obscured

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they're usually linked with snakes are

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, called the burning once and

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they are there probably

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connected with a

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, a cobra found in

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egypt because

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there's because very similar being very

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egypt that is like this and

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there actually are you are you it on like

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the the headdress ah

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is called the you reyes and

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me it's for this goddess

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i'll watch it i think what you're

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doing it so it's it's this sort

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of like we need venomous snake and

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, wings i mean like the hood of the serpent

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and the old it this

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was our did this sort of

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divine being according to film and

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the had both the power to heal and

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two kills as you also

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see in numbers twenty one and

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we see something similar something syria

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about three thousand years ago we have a

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six winged goddess that

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looks like she's holding a pair of snakes

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and so it looks like this

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multi winged figure associated

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with snakes was prominent

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throughout the the eastern mediterranean

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and the descriptions just sort

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of very slightly but

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yellow the sir from the

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a pure few times in the bible and

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they're usually reference in association

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with snake or fire or

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boats and those are our highest

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angels according to some

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of the hierarchy so you'll find

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hi

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there are two others that

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we have mention of that

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are sort of left out and

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, one is a singular

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angel angel the destroying

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angel or the angel of death and we see

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how pop up a few times in the old testament

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of our first time is an exodus

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an the egyptians

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the other they're running through their different plagues

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your that moses as paulson out and

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the last one is okay

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i'm i was saving the some for last but here

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we go gonna play it you know he

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throws his car down and

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simmons the destroying

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angel of yeah way this is

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like a special angel set

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aside when a whole

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but a killer needs to be done and

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he comes through egypt and he kills the

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first born of everything

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is that the first born male human

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know it's is he first born of everything

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the livestock are not exclude

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my home of came to new found like

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the first born frog they just had a plague

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of frauds so the first born of

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his are those frogs they died

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okay though the sheep the goats

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the pigs the cows all

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of it yeah the first born of the fleas

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they dot every first born in the

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land was killed by

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this angel and this is a

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special angel on that

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that doesn't it categorized but it's just

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like this destroying

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age or this angel of death i

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think he next pops up and second samuel

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twenty four david

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conducts us census

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and

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he's not supposed to and

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the the weird because yeah we

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order some to conduct a census and then gets mad

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when he that's it so this is something

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weird textual going on

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i think it's a composite of two different stories

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men so some something's gonna got one keeps

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on and so yeah always takes is angel

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ah and is like the same term this destroying

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angel the since i'm against israel

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and he kills like seventy thousand

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people like his goal isn't to kill like

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specific once it's to kill all

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of them and it's is

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only like david

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and some other people think they step in

20:30

the conduct a sacrifice and

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the angels like okay we're good

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then he departs you know

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the only killed seventy thousand israel as

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i've done my job yeah yeah i say okay okay

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well you either to sacrifice i guess

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we're cool now the ,

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count people again i'm happy do

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subtract seventy thousand a

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stop gap is like

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oh pocket like mean that's i good way

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to mess up the math not already have fewer

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so natural birth and death rates when

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you don't have since as

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but there were some just a tom's you have seventy

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you'll seventy thousand in the middle of it

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i'm glad that didn't happen jones twenty jones

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twenty but are

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are you sure

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this angels named covert though maybe

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, weren't supposed to take a census okay

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okay way to fight cove it gets some lambs

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blood and put it on her on at

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a fast at might a

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me america has tried everything else better

21:33

than vaccinate your house people if

21:35

you're not gonna wear a mask and get a vaccine

21:37

and you've run out of like a out the like

21:42

a and mario the

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ice oh

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do it relies see this ice in on

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second kings nineteen when

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i'm a bunch of syrians

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with the whole a syrian army think led

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by senate cherub ah are

21:58

camped outside of jerusalem and they they want

22:00

to come in they want to take over the city and

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i'm the king

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i can't remember his name he

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asks your way or he s as profit

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within as your way for help yeah

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always like i got your sam said

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he senses destroying angel down who

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kills a hundred and eighty five

22:20

thousand assyrians overnight

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just your

22:26

nearly nearly million people just all dead

22:29

all at once which didn't

22:31

actually do much because that a syrian

22:33

army we we know historically went on

22:35

to conquer like the rest of judah

22:38

and then continued on conquering other

22:40

lands for like five more years wow

22:43

without whole thing so i'm

22:45

not sure how historically accurate that

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is

22:48

the and i don't

22:50

know that we we have archaeological evidence

22:52

of this destroying angel ah but that

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is that's another one that we house on

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the in our last one is the metics

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ron oh yeah and did

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this the one you're gonna have a hard time finding

23:04

anything about him and when you do it's a

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lot of it's gonna be really bonkers this

23:09

guy yob was who they hired for other

23:11

movie trailers by committee yeah

23:14

, so many trans used

23:17

to be in a fight with orion

23:19

packs until orion packs dot

23:21

dot of leadership and became optimus

23:24

became know i'm

23:26

sorry i got my notes mixtapes ah

23:28

so the metics so is it's

23:31

a coin to some sources the highest angel

23:33

and the name literally means his

23:35

own thrown meaning this

23:37

angels elevated so high that see

23:40

got to sit on the throne of god or

23:42

on a substitute thrown is

23:44

that was given to him so that

23:46

he can essentially rule over up everything

23:49

can essentially universe which

23:51

is a pretty big deals okay and

23:54

this sort of the opposite of what we

23:56

see with the lucifer stories

23:59

where you have these were his angels that

24:01

sry

24:02

they get to the highest thrown and are thus

24:04

cast down but here

24:07

the murder trial

24:09

basically humbles himself and his the

24:11

an elevated to the highest throne

24:14

and that sort of like a satan the

24:16

metics ron isn't a name is a title

24:19

it just means like the the angel that

24:21

sits on the highest thrown some hand

24:24

we have references to this

24:27

title being held by

24:29

michael jesus and

24:32

gone away and

24:34

, hinted that

24:37

he not might have also done this

24:40

and so did this is the

24:42

streams bit of theology that's

24:45

definitely been left behind the from

24:47

on christianity ah

24:49

he's ah celestial scribe he gets to

24:52

read from the read from of destiny

24:54

that tell the defeat of everything in

24:56

the universe you know people

24:58

the world heaven all of that

25:01

he gets to know it and down

25:03

in the third book of enoch

25:06

ah the metics fraud is called

25:08

the lesser ya way which

25:10

tells us that at some point there were

25:13

jews who viewed the metics

25:15

ron as ya away and

25:17

, who did not and so the

25:19

sort of harmonized a single cable it

25:22

can be your way but

25:24

a little bit low were i

25:26

to like it it it's a lesser your way

25:29

and we see him we

25:31

see as thing appear multiple times in the babylonian

25:33

talmud including arguments

25:35

in there that say that the metre

25:38

tron is only an angel and

25:40

couldn't actually ,

25:42

the place of god in heaven heaven

25:45

the we see other points where he

25:47

does take the place of god in

25:49

heaven so that god can rest

25:52

of the so yeah so this so

25:54

yeah this a big deal

25:56

that they're trying not to

25:58

say he's as hi

25:59

as the creator of the universe but

26:02

, clearly that belief certainly

26:05

existed because you're arguing

26:07

against it and at some points even admitting

26:10

that this may be the case in

26:12

in their theology that god

26:14

took a break and the meadow tron rules

26:16

everything since then and

26:18

it's also called dot the so har

26:20

says that the metics fraud is

26:23

the same as elsa die which

26:25

is another name for god so that

26:27

this so that this has to be like

26:29

the highest angel in the

26:31

entire thing and like a

26:33

said i'm the apocalypse of

26:35

the roof well actually says that

26:39

michael the archangel is

26:41

else should i which is

26:43

the metics ron and

26:46

, delivering knowledge

26:49

of the coming apocalypse the

26:51

way that in aachen jesus do it

26:53

, it's like elsa di mico

26:56

he not jesus jesus

26:58

almost like these are different variations

27:01

of the same idea and

27:03

the title for that idea other

27:06

the heavenly scribe who of history goes

27:08

up to the highest thrown who sits in

27:10

judgment over angels and

27:12

kind of rules every seeing while the

27:14

high dot high your

27:16

that michael jai way elsa

27:18

that you not jesus these are all

27:20

different variants on the same idea

27:23

and that idea is called the metics

27:25

ron and that

27:27

is a it's it's this really bizarre

27:30

see all achieve that's difficult

27:32

to find good information

27:34

on because it eventually

27:37

was sort of abandoned of abandoned

27:39

that happens if if

27:41

the religion is still active the

27:43

and they typically try to suppress

27:45

it and that means when they copy

27:47

these texts if the ideas

27:49

present they change it now

27:52

and then they take the old copy and they destroy it

27:54

and so not much about the medic

27:56

front survives ah we just have little

27:58

hints that

27:59

fine

28:01

scattered about and things like third

28:03

ie not the babylonian talmud

28:06

ah and the apocalypse of the rebels from

28:09

other net there's not much written about it doesn't

28:11

mainstream really sounds like right

28:13

right are usually when you see

28:15

anything about the metics ron it's just

28:18

like a messenger like a typical angel or higher

28:20

yield , metics ron pops up to deliver a message

28:23

you know i just oh yeah i'm going to talk to you because

28:26

you're god can't because you'll die if you hears

28:28

voices if you see this in a dogma

28:31

that the met a trap years to talk to someone

28:33

on that that's that's not what

28:36

the metics ron was it was something

28:38

else else was like the

28:40

highest possible rank an angel could

28:42

attain it sounds like so he in

28:44

and you mentioned it it's a it's a title

28:46

more than more yes like

28:49

the championship belt that

28:51

damn different holy people

28:54

and damn different these one including

28:57

shine michael the archangel

29:01

the , angel angel

29:03

i'm i think i've heard somewhere

29:05

that dad jacob one it at some point

29:07

in a ladder match yeah over

29:10

yeah what when they had their bagel rumble down

29:12

on the job at river sounds

29:14

crushed yeah crushed with

29:17

that a bad it sets from genesis sick

29:19

of coming back to his homeland and

29:22

one night brings crossing a job at river i'm

29:26

he meets is angel though in some

29:28

manuscripts it says that it was god himself

29:31

and they get enough i got it's the mediterranean

29:33

he's just mediterranean champion humanitarians

29:36

they get in this fight right there on this banks

29:38

of the river and sake

29:40

of and beat some he pins and down

29:42

some liked up that this angel catchy

29:45

like hits and between the legs and

29:48

and between long since a lip for the rest of his

29:50

life but jacob still doesn't let

29:52

him up and then finally he's like hey

29:54

what you need to let me up because

29:56

the dawn is coming and someone needs to

29:58

go and pick up the sun

29:59

that it's those like

30:02

right i , i'll let you

30:04

up and he let him get up and run off

30:06

the go and pick up son son when

30:08

he gets his name changes from changes

30:11

ah to israel which means

30:14

ah he struggled with god

30:16

and he struggled and l oh

30:19

i'm in that that's where he gets

30:21

this is new name this new title but

30:23

because he this new up

30:25

an angel or the mediterranean or got himself

30:28

a , the banks of river and

30:31

actually i think that comes from

30:33

the from hindu with there's

30:35

a good a similar story that that's much much

30:38

older were somebody

30:40

gets in a wrestling match with a god

30:42

and he beats him and that god has to slip

30:44

away so he can pick up the sun and

30:46

is over okay i'll go hidden let's go

30:49

and i seek an end to the gods

30:51

seats by hitting him between the legs

30:53

i'm not positive on that detail but

30:55

i think it was in the hilarious and

30:58

the met a try may be also

31:00

connected with misra from

31:02

zoroastrianism i ,

31:04

little hints of that that

31:07

i'm neil peppered through of a few little

31:09

things arm and it's sort

31:11

of is emerald of

31:14

the ioc something definitive is really is

31:17

really yeah also i think that

31:19

was some he never he

31:21

never attain the title of have met have tron

31:24

but everybody knows him as mr

31:26

perfect the

31:28

, w w e so

31:30

decent let me watch myself

31:32

away from his stupid joke did the

31:35

public at large at know

31:37

the baptists hierarchy and these descriptions

31:40

back in the day when when the started coming out

31:42

there was he said of random medieval

31:44

period or so when when this really

31:46

kind of congealed , what

31:48

it is yeah up i can't

31:50

find anything that most people knew much

31:53

about it ah that

31:55

this was that this that was kind of bouncing

31:57

around with some of the earth

31:59

the the regions and stuff he

32:01

have to remember that back in the day books

32:03

were extremely difficult to combine you

32:06

had to get a monk to sit down and

32:08

ruin his eyesight spending a decade

32:10

copying these things by hand

32:13

gases , get a copy own

32:16

the our earliest mass produced

32:18

bibles was from like the end of a fourth

32:20

century a d and

32:23

there was like

32:24

one hundred of

32:26

yeah this is so that all of your different bishops

32:28

around the roman empire could each have a copy

32:31

and new two copies for the same ah

32:34

is so like we have a

32:36

codex that economists codex

32:38

sinaiticus and are ethic to

32:40

others from that collection of

32:43

the diva have different sets of books and i'm

32:46

on the of books that are in there that we don't

32:48

have in our current bible so this

32:51

, extremely difficult this the find

32:53

the main scriptures if you wanted to

32:56

buy just hear the gospel like say the gospel

32:58

of mark you had to wait for

33:01

i'm your a priest or

33:03

a bishop read it to you

33:06

and they they didn't they wouldn't typically read

33:08

the whole thing they would read part of it you know see

33:10

on some of people just didn't have access

33:12

to even the basic stuff like their own scriptures

33:15

much less the some your

33:17

the these more nice

33:19

sort of our writings and believes

33:22

that talked about what the hierarchy of angels

33:25

and things like that turn ,

33:27

most believers an angel was an angel

33:29

and it was you know just however

33:31

was depicted on the most current

33:34

artwork that was you know in

33:36

their churches but yeah that the general public

33:38

didn't they didn't really know much about this

33:40

on your average

33:42

person playing online today

33:46

on facebook knows more about

33:48

biblical angels than the vast majority

33:50

of people it through history in

33:52

like six century europe yes you know

33:54

means communicate more

33:57

the about these things i mean like

33:59

there's literally you can get the

34:01

has like all these different wheels and as as be

34:03

not afraid and most christians

34:05

back and that i would have no idea what that was even about

34:09

that about what about you

34:11

know any i did discuss a witless couplets

34:13

barnum and , don't

34:15

like to see what have no idea that was in their bibles

34:17

because they do have access to the sports your

34:20

by before expenses a lot of priests

34:22

didn't have access to have have

34:24

know so that this was our that this

34:26

was common knowledge it's an interesting

34:29

point to bring up and leads us nicely

34:31

into the last section one talk about because

34:33

now that you know their jobs and descriptions you may

34:35

be wondering how did angel come to mean

34:38

just a blonde haired blue eyed hunk with bird

34:40

with sometimes with a halo

34:43

and a liar so let's talk about how they

34:45

evolved over time evolved you

34:48

are you talked about them being depicted in art

34:50

and that's kinda how people imagine

34:52

them or saw the murder knew about them for

34:55

a long time to things there

34:57

are any consensus about

35:00

how angels looked to ancient

35:02

followers cause , said ain't

35:04

you node angel to them and angel what

35:06

exactly did that means to

35:09

them and then when did the

35:11

winded angels begin being depicted begin

35:13

art okay so as far

35:16

so how they were believed

35:18

to appear to to jews

35:21

and christians two thousand years ago there

35:24

, a consensus and

35:26

as a looked just like regular

35:28

people people boot we

35:30

have multiple of references

35:32

to this like a genesis eighteen abraham

35:35

as hanging out in the valley near saddam

35:38

of me east stillness tent

35:40

cause you know it's the desert and it's hot

35:43

and these three men appear these three

35:45

visitors and they'd scum your woken

35:47

up until i get you know tits and we will

35:49

sit down and maybe your have and maybe

35:51

and eat some food they they do and

35:54

he realizes these are angels

35:57

and one of them is your way himself

35:59

they they just appear to be normal people you're

36:02

not recognized as any seeing

36:04

divine and , later

36:06

he's like oh my god these are angels

36:09

you know also the the appeared to just

36:11

look like people and

36:14

then later some these angels they go down

36:16

into saddam saddam to

36:18

to cut go like check things out for themselves

36:21

they go and they visit they and

36:23

the people there ah doesn't

36:25

just eighteen the people there who see

36:28

the angels that the tells people they

36:30

think they're just a couple of men who were traveling

36:32

they have no idea they are divine

36:34

beings that all they just think they

36:36

are men and that's why they want

36:38

to go and harass them and go

36:41

these angels like not the these big

36:43

like often him and stuff like that but just

36:45

regular angels are mentioned a two

36:47

hundred and seventy three times

36:49

in the bible and not once

36:51

or they said to have weeks every

36:54

time we get a description they look like

36:56

people and like says

36:58

he an arm in acts when

37:01

the the one angel popped up for

37:03

the when peter popped up the

37:05

they see peter they literally

37:08

thought he was an angel that that it was peters angel

37:10

not peter himself and in

37:12

it turned out to to just be peter so

37:15

, appeared as just

37:17

like people and we see this throughout

37:19

i'm i'm daniel nine

37:21

gabriel pops up he said to be

37:24

an angel and he's described as looking

37:26

like a man matthew

37:28

twenty eight twenty have an angel that rules

37:30

away the stone at away the tomb

37:33

though that the women can go inside

37:35

and inside there's

37:38

a man in a white robe and

37:40

this is understood to be an angel luke

37:42

comes along and says the same thing

37:44

but specifically calcium and angel and

37:47

so sick of looked as was

37:49

it john q , mark

37:52

same things we have an angel at

37:54

the tomb others martin eighteen he's described

37:56

as a young man in

37:59

a white robe in the tomb it

38:01

does not say he's glow

38:04

winger has wings or thousand

38:06

eyes or anything like that he just

38:08

appears as a younger

38:11

man wearing a white robe and

38:13

the people understand him as an angel

38:16

and so the belief that angels just

38:18

looked like people feel that they can walk

38:20

among us and you would never know that

38:22

was dot the mainstream beliefs

38:25

about the appearance of angels

38:27

luke , four says the same thing up but

38:30

it has to angels and they disappear

38:32

me all right this kind of pop out of thin air

38:34

inside the to so that that's how angels

38:37

were like how their described

38:39

and in our oldest depictions

38:42

of i'm in artwork in ,

38:44

the catacombs of priscilla in rome

38:47

or this goes back like the third century

38:49

ce of we see the

38:51

enunciation of mary where the angel

38:53

gabriel comes to talk to her

38:56

the teller hate you're teller hate to have the

38:58

you're gonna give birth to the christ and you're going to name him

39:01

tease us that is is

39:03

depicted as a man who did this is gabriel

39:06

we have another one where are the the

39:08

three angels go in the visit abraham

39:10

ah this of for century depicts and and

39:13

the same thing it's abraham

39:16

hanging out with three other men

39:18

and the story these are angels

39:21

the , got a balding angel an

39:23

angel with no hair who

39:25

is stopping abraham from sacrificing

39:28

isaac isaac from that classic

39:30

seen ah that's on a sarcophagus

39:33

in sarcophagus your what we've got

39:35

multiple things got this the

39:38

one where though the three

39:40

jews are captured and thousand and two

39:42

or ah this big foreigners in

39:44

the book of daniel and people look inside

39:46

and as a force figure standing there with them

39:49

we have a fourth century depiction of that

39:51

this is our daniel three and

39:54

the our figure is just

39:57

like some random man with a beard

39:59

book was an angel in that story

40:01

is that the i'm ah ,

40:04

rak me shack in a bit ago yes

40:06

yes and angel yeah

40:09

and generic angels how

40:11

angels guide number four sigma ah

40:14

by the into the fourth century they stop depicting

40:16

angels with beards ah but the with

40:19

one exception in the early in the

40:21

century there's an ivory

40:23

carving of the baptism

40:25

of christ and there's an angel kind of watching

40:27

over this and he has a beard and that's the last

40:30

time a classical art that we ever see an angel

40:32

with a beard in any sort of christian

40:35

setting and by

40:37

the mere sits century there

40:41

are angels with a wings everywhere

40:44

so and that sort of the time from like the into the first

40:46

century to the middle of the fifth

40:48

century so we're talking like thirty

40:51

to fifty years angels

40:53

are running around you know just looking

40:55

like regular people yell

40:58

, with beards and receding hairlines

41:00

and then all of a sudden they have this very

41:04

last sick sort of farm

41:06

ahmed like greek or roman

41:08

appearance they're usually clean

41:10

shaven because that was the style

41:13

yo in rome and

41:15

the resemble the the goddess

41:17

of victory nike ah

41:19

none of them are wearing the shoes with the

41:21

law check on but

41:24

they are frequently depicted with

41:26

wings by the middle of the fifth century

41:28

and this is a direct influence

41:31

of the so the

41:33

other the european style of art

41:36

because there weren't too many

41:38

regular christian artists

41:41

a lot of the early christian art is

41:43

just really bad it

41:46

, like really bad graffiti

41:48

like their children who have

41:50

their artwork hanging up on their moms fridge

41:52

and they have to explain it to their on on

41:55

she can't tell what it is that's what

41:57

that's lot of their art looked like a lot

41:59

of their stats this were taken from other

42:01

temples and they would literally just civil

42:03

off the name of whatever god or hero

42:05

it was endless rv

42:07

and christ and us that

42:10

see what i'm i'm not even joke and get

42:12

it they literally did this of syrup

42:15

is ah miss throw a bunch

42:17

of these others they would just they would take the statues

42:20

and , you could actually see with it's kind of scratched

42:22

up the name with a chisel and then they disrupt

42:25

jesus in like really bad handwriting

42:27

underneath it with delicate

42:30

there's no consensus over what the man

42:33

looked like because it was says whatever

42:35

statue to find statue way and about that

42:37

wasn't that was what he was are you

42:39

know a that they didn't have a lot of artists

42:42

because a lot of them a lot of early christians

42:44

were poor and the commission and artists

42:46

to come and do this or that that

42:48

was something that the wealthy people had

42:50

you know he couldn't you couldn't become an artist

42:52

to either because it also took money for the

42:54

materials so yeah a a block

42:56

of marble was a kind of

42:58

expensive you , a

43:01

not really a concern when you're just trying

43:03

to make some luck as as right

43:06

a you'll a like

43:08

you yeah he didn't you didn't run down to you

43:10

know michaels and pickup paint you

43:12

know know i'm michael the archangel

43:14

you know like they didn't even have a gabriel's

43:17

art store back fan the oh would

43:19

you had to do with you had to go and find bugs

43:21

and flowers and like certain things

43:24

and grind them up and mix them with

43:26

various you know chemicals and stuff

43:28

to make your own paint and

43:30

like that that's where pigment came from and

43:33

if you had to have not that you have had

43:35

to be able to read books on how to do this and then you

43:37

had to go and do it yeah couldn't

43:39

just run down to hobbyists lobbyists and

43:41

right right right to have none of those

43:44

i'm a so yeah artists

43:47

were a so and far between and they were all

43:49

you know sponsored by rich people

43:52

and the early christians weren't rich a

43:54

so yeah the their art was kinda crappy

43:56

and when you finally do start getting

43:58

dedicated christian [unk] it it

44:00

has a lot of roman influence and

44:04

, the mid century

44:07

century of the things they were doing to sort of separate

44:10

angels from sue men's

44:12

was from sue started to attained a strange

44:15

androgynous appearance and

44:17

the artist did this by hiring

44:19

female models who

44:21

portray mail angels

44:24

and so they get

44:26

a woman said york is that the artist the

44:28

they had the all these different women that would come

44:30

in moral forms and debilitate

44:33

of you know sophia can you

44:35

come in your model to be this angel

44:37

if you're like oh sure it's like yeah so you're going to

44:39

be a dude by the way i'm

44:42

so as a i need you to take this like bandage and

44:44

just wrapped around your chest really tight okay

44:46

cool i know it's uncomfortable it'll only

44:48

take about two weeks for me to complete let's

44:51

go and then they they would you know who's a painting of

44:53

the sculpture whatever think of i'm

44:55

have you ever seen the the constantine

44:57

with i'm keanu reeves yes

45:00

yes if a tilda swinton in that

45:02

yes yeah i i think she was actually

45:04

one of these roman models a

45:06

from the fifth century i'm pretty sure that's how

45:09

it went but , so that that's

45:11

that's what it was a they got women

45:13

to portray mail

45:15

angels and that that's how they did it and

45:18

most of the angels were male there are only few references

45:21

to female angels in this comes from some really

45:23

obscure text a

45:25

but the the main few was that all mangled

45:28

were male and mail

45:31

angels were not supposed to interact with

45:33

females at all and

45:35

early christians would often

45:38

try to adhere to this idea

45:40

and they would actually like

45:43

refrain from any physical contact

45:45

even with their own spouses so

45:48

and , writes about this is like out

45:50

so i'm if you already

45:53

have already wife you don't need

45:55

to divorce her but it may be best to never

45:57

touch her again on some and if

45:59

you're not

45:59

the reed

46:01

maybe don't get married at

46:03

all i'm and we

46:05

we have other i'm

46:08

like christian theologians who

46:10

talk about this and they're like yes

46:12

so i'm you

46:14

i'm trying to find my notes on one of it's

46:16

ah but but we have one

46:19

where he i think it's like a third or fourth

46:21

century and down

46:23

he talks about this ah

46:26

how did they are like a spiritual

46:29

nature the immortality there's

46:31

no need for breeding because

46:33

you know everything is eternal

46:36

and marriage as a symbol

46:38

of corruption you

46:40

know and you're we should strive

46:42

to be like angels and avoid all

46:45

contact with women that there's a

46:47

lot of text that you find a especially

46:49

like in the old testament of women were

46:51

seen as like unclean ah

46:53

, you you needed to kind of avoid contact

46:56

with that minutes cause oh what we're talking

46:58

about people had a very strong sexual

47:01

taboo like just sex

47:03

alone meet you dirty and

47:05

you had to become purified after that

47:08

and some these early christians they took a step

47:10

further and of like don't even do that

47:13

quake don't even come and physical

47:15

contact with

47:17

your wife which was strange

47:19

because some of them actually

47:21

said that women could become up

47:24

like profits and deakins and

47:26

high ranking apostles like paul

47:29

so he didn't have a negative view of women it's

47:32

just like sexual relations

47:35

the old was a type of corruption

47:38

and everyone should abstain from that

47:41

are because that's what angel steered us

47:44

it was is very strange theology

47:46

that people are still trying to trying

47:48

to of dissect and understand yeah

47:51

the we got the wings from

47:53

them which is a roman

47:56

influence it sounds like when

47:58

they start getting the the woes

48:00

and liars and stuff ah

48:03

halos actually it's

48:05

a divine beings for halos that

48:08

is really old

48:10

we've got to pick since of that not just

48:12

with angels but with other figures

48:15

i'm going back well over

48:17

two thousand years i'm

48:19

in the he goes a lot into you

48:21

tinto first see it with deities

48:24

that are connected with the sun

48:27

and , discuss all the way back to aka

48:29

not and you you see things

48:31

like that we're okay with we wanted

48:33

to pick something because it's you have a lot

48:35

of things worse stores are being told with pictures

48:38

because not everyone can read and so

48:40

that they would would a picture

48:43

or carved in stone and they

48:45

needed to find a way to say okay is this person

48:47

here is connected with the with

48:50

and the best way to do that was to just put the sun

48:52

on top of on head on the

48:54

lots of egyptian depictions of that were

48:56

you neil young person and like the sun

48:59

is literally on their head on

49:01

and then later just kind of came to be surrounding

49:03

their head of and this progress

49:06

over the course of about three thousand years

49:08

and i'm of instantly

49:11

it i'm to just be

49:13

connected with anybody who was

49:15

sort of divine and

49:17

the reason is because ah

49:19

one of these later messianic traditions was

49:21

that humans are all the faithful

49:24

humans would become stars are

49:26

we see this in the book of see of the com

49:29

ransacked which , us

49:31

the dead com scrolls they had this belief

49:33

that on the day scrolls judgment

49:35

though the faithful in the righteous even

49:38

those that were already dead they would rise up

49:40

and they would be transformed the same

49:42

way that enoch was and they would become divine

49:45

beings their flesh would fall

49:47

off and they would he would start to go

49:49

on and that they would send

49:51

of the heaven and they would actually become new stars

49:54

and young like prominent

49:56

people will have their own constellations and

49:59

things like that and

50:01

one of the ways that this could be depicted was

50:03

with the people being glowing and a

50:05

good way to do that was to draw

50:07

a big ball of yellow over their head

50:10

and gradually this

50:12

merge know that this overtime

50:15

, to a hollow ring

50:18

that hovered over the person's head head

50:20

was also some that came from the middle ages

50:23

middle going up me all

50:25

even up into the renaissance a lot of depictions

50:27

you see of like jesus mary

50:29

joseph abraham moses things

50:31

abraham that is just the

50:34

it it looks like they they have a big silhouette

50:36

you're around them you know that they have

50:38

liked as a ring or a disc

50:41

ring their head either

50:43

white or yellow ah begin

50:46

at the the idea of like idea halo for

50:48

holy people and angels that

50:51

goes back to ancient egypt i'm at

50:54

, two the time of i

50:56

cannot and and even

50:58

possibly and it is just one

51:00

of the things that just kind of got carried over

51:02

it was a great way to depict that somebody

51:05

yeah was glow winger something like that

51:07

or divine as opposed to regular

51:10

man right now and wheaton we see

51:12

the the the idea of someone

51:14

glowing we see an idea

51:16

of that and first a knock

51:18

on your the end of it when know

51:20

was born his father le mec

51:23

this are one he not chapter one of six his

51:25

son is born he didn't have a name have and

51:28

his skin is pure white his here

51:31

is white and his eyes are glowing

51:33

and that the kid is that a levitating and

51:36

like get this light to psych still the entire house

51:39

and he's freaked out because he thinks he's an angel

51:41

it's a eve runs off to go top the methuselah

51:44

enough to find out what the deal is and

51:46

like oh no he just he's just been blessed

51:49

on name him noah he's

51:51

gonna build gonna big boat ah we've got

51:53

some other information boat ah oh

51:57

yeah so yeah the idea that

52:00

angels had white skin

52:04

is it a european idea he

52:06

ah vault both that certainly became

52:09

like the popular seeing on

52:12

get it just goes back to like at least a second

52:14

century bc other

52:16

not said to be white

52:18

lake european like you

52:21

and i know it's white

52:23

like albino it's like by

52:25

papers your wife yeah

52:27

okay the heroes pure white they

52:29

would actually go sometimes so

52:32

yeah that that was something that's

52:34

actually you know what

52:36

was part of their think i think an arm maybe

52:39

leviticus is is pass

52:41

it it talks about what to do if someone has

52:44

leprosy and it says that if they're

52:46

leprosy get so bad that their entire body

52:48

turns white you no longer

52:50

have to quarantine them they can come back can't

52:52

because now they're divine yeah

52:55

, like don't do that don't don't

52:58

maybe not do that though they didn't define

53:00

leprosy as the actual you know

53:02

like disease it could actually just

53:04

be any skin condition that

53:07

change the appearance of the skin of psoriasis

53:10

they actually thought that a burn was

53:12

a form of form a if

53:14

you got burned it blistered you

53:16

had to be quarantined until that healed then

53:18

you could come back in after purification

53:20

ritual of pouring alcohol of pouring

53:23

yeah uh huh

53:25

but the earliest reference to angels

53:28

like the the regular people with wings

53:30

also comes from one enoch a

53:33

and that's chapter sixty one and

53:35

they didn't always have wings a

53:37

didn't a scene where they need to

53:39

basically take like a survey of the world and

53:43

these angels they have these courts that are used for

53:45

like measuring so it's like a a chord with

53:47

you know a markings on it or like knots

53:50

every you know so many paces or whatever

53:53

and you use that to paces or things and

53:55

the angels are doing this and are going to measure the entire world

53:58

and to do it you know

53:59

like walking would take forever

54:01

the the angels get weeks so they

54:03

can the and like the to sneak in the ground

54:05

tell your core to it and it's lie to

54:08

another country and then write down the measurements

54:10

this as a yeah they they acquire wings

54:12

for themselves and fly around

54:15

from ah but their natural state was without

54:17

weeks that's our one he knocks

54:19

sixty one that is the oldest mentioned

54:21

we have of assuming

54:23

looking angel with wings

54:26

so they could have him but they

54:28

didn't always not until about the fifth

54:30

century a d when there was there was

54:32

of roman and fluids and sort

54:34

like the goddess nike ah what

54:36

when she got involved in this interesting

54:39

and what about they're liars

54:42

hi i'm that's not one that i looked up

54:44

ah so i am not sure so

54:47

from some says century

54:49

were there any notable events or anything or

54:52

between then and now that dad can

54:54

have got them in our heads

54:56

as what we what we picture or is

54:58

it kind of all steeped in matt in

55:01

is it's mostly steeped in that though

55:03

that there were few little the on a

55:06

bit saw a few things mostly

55:08

to do with like

55:10

, and literature not really any

55:12

theological changes ah

55:14

by the end to see the theology concerning

55:17

angels was pretty well set of

55:19

but you're over the you're

55:21

over centuries day the

55:24

design of the angels just became

55:27

slightly more refined arm

55:30

they take on more of a european

55:32

appearance because that's what most

55:35

of the art ah ya that's where

55:37

most of it was coming from so if you go to

55:39

places like africa all

55:41

, angels are black you know if you if you

55:43

go to china they all look chinese

55:46

i'm so the which would make

55:48

sense because the angels are supposed to be able to walk

55:50

among you and go unnoticed unnoticed

55:52

so that the angels the kind

55:55

of just take on the appearance of the locals and

55:57

down your that they're frequently depicted

56:00

with wings because you know

56:02

that's just how it happened ah but

56:04

other that they didn't really change very much

56:07

the the role that they assume

56:09

is usually like a messenger or someone

56:11

watches over you i'm

56:14

and that's about it they it they of lose

56:16

most of their other duties they

56:18

don't really move the tectonic

56:21

plates surrounds know they don't move

56:23

the moon or anything else they these

56:25

oh a lot of those other

56:27

ranks of angels have kind of our

56:30

you'll , obsolete once rediscovered

56:32

things like gravity and the water cycle

56:35

so those think kind of while

56:37

the the hierarchy of angels is still

56:40

a thing that exists and books i

56:42

, know of any churches that actively

56:45

teach it he also

56:47

because it is just angel

56:50

all the jesus isn't really important

56:52

to most believers of

56:55

regardless of the denomination it's more

56:57

about the a personal connection through

56:59

christ and stuff like that at

57:01

all the angels or to sort of like this thing that exists

57:03

in the background said oh yeah you know months

57:06

up or i'll say a prayer at us my guardian

57:08

angel to help me out with this your that help me

57:10

with this test or whatever and they're

57:12

not a big kind of they

57:16

kind of don't really play much of a part

57:19

in , anymore anymore of

57:21

course you know you're you're making movies

57:23

or tv shows yeah you know especially

57:26

if it's are on the w b or

57:28

it has christopher walken in it ah

57:31

yeah i'm sorry but the prophecy is still one of the

57:33

best movies ever movies i

57:36

gotta ya one possible origin

57:38

four years them with liars

57:41

and this kind of ties back into

57:43

the halo as well it may

57:45

it may have come from a

57:47

conglomeration of the god apollo

57:50

has since he was also got of music

57:52

and often depicted with a liar and

57:55

he was got a verb as the sun

57:58

not helios not dead you know

58:00

the one who draft a chariot but apollo's

58:02

often so like the halo

58:05

being tied to the sun tied

58:07

to glowing you know lights yeah and

58:10

music liar and also you

58:12

know eventually the music of the spheres

58:15

or the heavenly heavenly choir

58:17

the music you know it music became

58:20

tied to ah angel

58:22

ology just with how

58:24

they depicted them singing

58:26

holy singing holy holy four seven

58:28

and things like their eyes right now could

58:31

exit be one possible origin for the liar

58:33

yak as he you do has of the

58:35

lot of the things concerning like the celestial

58:38

beings is they were meant to represent

58:40

things that were on earth

58:42

or rather the things that people

58:44

were doing on earth was

58:47

, to be a reenactment

58:49

of what was going on in the heavens and so when

58:51

you have these are levi musicians

58:54

were playing songs inside

58:56

of the jerusalem temple this

58:58

was meant to be sort

59:00

of reenactment of these angels who were

59:02

up there in the heavenly throne room doing

59:05

the same thing and

59:07

so ill ah giving them

59:09

something flight trumpets and symbols

59:11

and liars and things like that ah

59:14

your that that would certainly make sense you you'd

59:16

you'd wanna find a way to do that

59:19

because that they were literally like one of their

59:21

jobs was it just fly around singing

59:24

i'm going music used to be a very

59:26

important part you have these

59:28

different tipple celebrations and

59:31

down the all like in the

59:33

book of ezra it talks all about how when

59:35

they were building the second temple dub

59:38

believe fights were out there with their musical

59:40

instruments and they were just standing over the

59:43

construction workers playing constantly

59:45

which had to have gotten someone

59:48

hit with a hammer at some for his

59:50

you know what

59:52

, when i'm trying to take a measurement and there's a

59:54

guy with us symbols right next to me me

59:57

sorry man i can do

59:59

with that oh so

1:00:01

, angels being the musical

1:00:03

a me it's literally part of their theology

1:00:06

of them fit they are singing praises

1:00:08

and stuff it would make sense that have musical instruments

1:00:11

and when you have this this european

1:00:13

influence in the already have gods out

1:00:16

that are playing musical instruments won't

1:00:19

you you got somebody who was gonna be doing

1:00:21

this painting of you know apollo

1:00:24

or someone else and

1:00:25

the

1:00:26

what are you just throw some wings on him and ya

1:00:29

novel the christians or by this artwork

1:00:31

cause your mum hagens kind of don't exist

1:00:33

anymore they're not gonna pay for anything

1:00:36

so , it that makes sense when

1:00:39

they're standing over construction sites

1:00:41

and and like a live radio

1:00:44

for radio their plan them

1:00:46

like peter gabriel

1:00:48

and george michael

1:00:50

the archangel there's

1:00:53

all kinds of the there's some there were some good tunes

1:00:55

back then but , yeah i

1:00:57

can i can can where it might

1:00:59

get a little old when you're trying to get

1:01:01

to and yes associate

1:01:04

continuously like the i was very beginning of

1:01:06

the day to gonna wake us up and then after and

1:01:08

go go go do you think let us

1:01:10

work there's only so many times

1:01:12

you can many freedom ninety

1:01:15

just a year ninety nine nineteen ninety

1:01:17

but damn yes anyway as well

1:01:19

i'll yes you what he we went

1:01:22

through all these choirs

1:01:24

all these spheres we busted i'm opens

1:01:27

ah hope you guys learned a little something

1:01:29

new and it's all little

1:01:31

stuff by the time now

1:01:33

we've got stuff a couple of the

1:01:36

guardians are assigned

1:01:38

to you guys personally listening

1:01:40

to this ah and these guardians

1:01:42

go under the name pod

1:01:51

i got to jason

1:01:53

would have at woody woody that i

1:01:56

got to i got to so

1:01:58

i guess first robot gee why don't

1:02:00

you kick us off here

1:02:01

okay since , on and on

1:02:04

have a high note or i'll go with saw

1:02:06

my my number two choice choice

1:02:09

so that there was this ah it's

1:02:11

sort of been left behind of yeah

1:02:13

but you can find can little bit and some

1:02:16

points of i jewish mysticism maybe

1:02:18

, so hard they have some angels that

1:02:20

have no wings they have no

1:02:22

arms no legs they're just these long

1:02:25

slender seen us us

1:02:28

, and they were given

1:02:30

dominion over the water

1:02:32

especially like shallow fools and stuff

1:02:35

your title pools and things and they were

1:02:37

called the more called young months and that is

1:02:39

because they were ios with any yours

1:02:45

oh that's good i'm terrified

1:02:48

my girlfriend just broke up with me

1:02:52

i , it i heard it as to the had

1:02:54

yeah let let us know in this episode airs i

1:02:56

will be single terrified

1:03:01

be not afraid my ass

1:03:04

they're not this that's pretty good so

1:03:06

i've gotta i gotta product for

1:03:08

you i'm

1:03:11

in it is for people who you know if you

1:03:13

wanna really keys those angels

1:03:15

in the temple and turn the tables to

1:03:17

test their face while

1:03:19

you need to tame those pearls with the new

1:03:21

herbal strengthening and conditioning aim

1:03:24

jail it's hair gel

1:03:26

to tempt even the most wing it of angels

1:03:31

pretty low hanging fruit to be

1:03:33

honest all , this what like

1:03:35

those are cockatoos used to make those

1:03:38

or feather stand up for some of the red hair

1:03:41

though

1:03:43

there's one depiction of found

1:03:45

in one , the books of he knocked

1:03:47

off the the heavenly throne room room

1:03:51

it and us ,

1:03:53

angels that

1:03:56

circle the angels

1:03:58

the throne and

1:04:00

they are equal in power they fly

1:04:02

around chanting holy holy holy

1:04:05

and on the they have like

1:04:07

so the core of fire

1:04:09

and it's shooting these the streets

1:04:11

beams of a fire

1:04:14

and lightning between these

1:04:16

three equally spaced angels

1:04:19

ah and they are called the he

1:04:22

collateral trained rules nice

1:04:29

just a little spelling

1:04:31

chains and you're golden heads great

1:04:35

angel i

1:04:38

don't of you know this one jason but there's a, there's

1:04:40

a lesser-known type of warrior angel

1:04:42

that sits higher rank than some

1:04:45

angels but it's not not as high as

1:04:47

most others in

1:04:49

this type is famous for protecting seas

1:04:51

and oceans and it fights without

1:04:54

weapon but instead of they use

1:04:56

their mouths, with rows sharp so

1:04:58

you don't want a mess an open waters cuz you may

1:05:00

be visited by shark angels might

1:05:04

michael the archangel michael

1:05:08

the shark games will defend us and battle mississippi

1:05:12

that's what yeah leonardo dicaprio

1:05:14

still used in gangs in new york yeah yeah

1:05:17

awesome well those are great the jason

1:05:19

thank you for coming on again and teaching us

1:05:21

more fascinating theology it's ah

1:05:24

it's always pleasant heavy on the show man tell

1:05:26

us what you're up to these days where we can find you

1:05:28

and dragons in genesis and are

1:05:30

you projects so i just recently

1:05:32

dropped an episode that covers the

1:05:34

book of ezra which is concerned

1:05:37

with the jews were turning